Re: [AMRadio] FCC ADDRESSES ARRL PETITION FOR RECONSIDERATION, NO-CODE PROPOSAL
Has to be posted first in the Federal Register; that can take a day to many days. Then 30 days from the date of posting in the Federal Register, the new rules become effective. Given where we are in December, most likely it will become effective sometime around the end of January. Pete, wa2cwa On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 21:38:41 -0600 "Mike Duke, K5XU" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So, is this all effective immediately? > > I didn't see any references to when. __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
I just wish that the comments could be more positive! When I witness the resurgence of AM, surely, there must be a Santa Claus. After 50 years on the air, I love this hobby and particularly, the fun that I get from AM operation and this mail list. I have moved the Collins 30K-1 to 3685 + or - and may never frequent the so-called AM Window ever again. Let's be so grateful to those at the FCC that gave us a wonderful Christmas present. Merry Christmas Dave, W3ST Publisher of the Collins Journal Secretary to the Collins Radio Association www.collinsra.com - the CRA Website Now with PayPal CRA Nets: 3.805 Mhz every Monday at 8 PM EST and 14.253 Mhz every Saturday at 12 Noon EST Collins Chatroom - Daily at 4 PM EST on 14.285 Mhz - Original Message - From: "Brett gazdzinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service'" Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 10:40 PM Subject: RE: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum Do any of the general class frequencies change? I had no problem getting to 13 wpm code when I got my license, I went right to general, after learning the code by listening to QSO's. I was about 21, so it might be much harder to re learn it at 50! I sure had fun on CW, rag chewing mostly in the novice bands, 40 and 15 meters qrp was fun, I had an hw7 and a 15 meter beam, and used to do hour long rag chews at about 10 wpm. I could go 20 wpm comfortably, all with a straight key. I forgot most of the code by now, and would need quiet uninterrupted time to work back up, something in high demand after marriage... While I think learning the code kept some of the riff raff out, and 80 and 40 meters seem crowded, I think ham radio is dieing a slow death. No magic in radio after cell phones... Brett N2DTS On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, A.R.S. - W5AMI wrote: > > The code elimination is a very sad ruling indeed. I have some "mixed emotions", indeed BUT: I've taught quite literally hundreds of kids (mostly Scouts) and adults, up into thier 80s - and have had the thrill of 'Elmerhood" dozens of times all of 'em, including me, learnt the Code. And I can tell you, it was a frustrating upward battle for me to get the 13WPM for General - I forgot half of it the next week, half again a week after, and now, if pressed, I could probably tap out CQ CQ DE KB6SCO at 4-5 wpm. And I've used nearly every code class tape and program out there the Code and I regretfully remain seperate. Some folks can go from 0-20 wpm with small effort - some folks can TX/RX at 45 WPM and carry on a conversation with you at the same time. Sometime it seems that Hams feel that the elimination of the code requirement means the eleimination of Code - and of course that's absurd... plenty of folks will keep Pounding the Happy Brass! I will also make this point about the elimination of the Code Proficiency requirement: every single one of the lids and radio-retards who has purposefully jammed myself, and most of You on this list - except for a very few possible bootleggers - all them Suckahz had to pass at least 5WPM - maybe more. No? So I'm willing to see if this Ruling helps bolster up the sadly sagging ranks of our Hobby - as for "dark days" - its a dark day when a 5KW rotatable-beam Texas sideband station 0-beats onto a QSO in our little AM window and proceeds to laugh and joke with his buddies (also apparently running a bit of 'power') about how "them AMers like *this* l'il ol' rock thru their winder...". [a verbatim quote I have recorded and archived, along with the callsigns they eventully IDed with] So if some of you think that 'no-code' will 'destroy' Ham Radio (it won't - the general malaise of the Cult of Stupidity will do that soon enough) then I'd like to offer the suggestion that each you consider volunteering a bit of your time and get a Ham Class going in your area... the more you teach properly - the more they will respect the Bands when they get their Ticket. And how's THAT for 200 millidollar with of Opinion??? Cheers John KB6SCO DM09fg whose Transmitter Rescue Trip got snowed out... mebbe next Weekend __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
They should have retained the 5wpm code requirement for Extras only. A bridge too far. Most regrettable. Now that the cat is out of the bag, how long before they drop to only two license classes? g John Lawson wrote: I have some "mixed emotions", indeed BUT:... __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
I didn't see what was wrong with 5 w.p.m. for Generals and above. Oh, well, the dumbing down of America continues... Joe W4AAB - Original Message - From: "Gary Blau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service" Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 10:00 AM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum > They should have retained the 5wpm code requirement for Extras only. > > A bridge too far. Most regrettable. > > Now that the cat is out of the bag, how long before they drop to only > two license classes? > > g > > John Lawson wrote: > > > I have some "mixed emotions", indeed BUT:... > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
crawfish wrote: I didn't see what was wrong with 5 w.p.m. for Generals and above. Oh, well, the dumbing down of America continues... Joe W4AAB Exactly. })-;} __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
Unfortunately, in this "Give me everything I want without having to work for it world..." this is but another step down the path of total irresponsibility and unaccountability. I agree with those who promote the Elmer program and I think it is a sure way to help our hobby. However, I don't think even that can replace the value of something "earned" instead of something "given". Rick/K5IZ Geoff/W5OMR wrote: crawfish wrote: I didn't see what was wrong with 5 w.p.m. for Generals and above. Oh, well, the dumbing down of America continues... Joe W4AAB Exactly. })-;} __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Geoff/W5OMR wrote: crawfish wrote: I didn't see what was wrong with 5 w.p.m. for Generals and above. Oh, well, the dumbing down of America continues... Joe W4AAB Exactly. })-;} Well Speaking as the guy who actually brought up the 'dumbing-down' issue in this thread - I'd like to posit a Thought on the issue of "no-code ham license" vs. "IQ". Without indulging in crass personal details - I would like to offer the observation that, 54 years on, it's probably correct to say that Mrs. Lawson didn't raise no dummy. I've done my share of Cool Things, in the Arts and Science and Commerce - with only my brain to help me. I will mention that I was graduated with a BSEE in 1971 - when I was 19, and I attended that University all four years. Y'all can do the math on yer own... There are several patents, numerous published papers, was Chief Engineer of MGM Studios... yada yada yada... the point being that I mebbe ain't as stupid as some folks might think I look like I am. Also - there are some truly 'genius' level folks I know of, who may or may not participate in these fora - people who you might recognize right away in a particular context. I certainly know one or two of 'em that don't care for Code. I would like to again point out the fact that, the above crass bragging notwithstanding, I have a terrible, frustrating time with the Code, and that includes retention of same. Even as a life-long musician - there is something about my WetWare that doesn't resonate with dahdididah as much as I would really like to sit in front of the Valiant with a lovely Vibroplex on the table, it's probably not gonna happen, especially as I age and the Learning Facility slowly degrades. Certainly in teaching Ham Radio - there exists a sizeable subset of individuals who ALSO have inherent trouble with Code Proficiency - regradless of their overall intellectual abilities. Most of them drop out of the Program at that point that used to be quite heartbreaking - lessened by the elimination of the Requirement at the Technician level - then that Disenfranchised Subset could at least *participate*! SO: to the 'No Code = Stupid' assertion, I say "Not so fast!" - that is just a sad form of Intellectual Bigotry, if that is what's really felt. "Lids" have existed since Ham began - one needs only to go back thru the "Letters" section of QST and other Ham magazines - the things we complain about were the subject of impassioned diatribes 60 and 70 years ago... in QST especially. The allowance of DSSC (SSB) sounded the 'deathknell' for Amateur Radio as we know it. The hand-over of 11 Meters to the Citizen's Radio Service was the "End of Ham Radio as We Know It!!!" The permission to allow RTTY on HF was the "Final Disaster That Will Kill Our Hobby!!!" I say: - let's welcome anything that serves to bring new Amateurs into our Hobby - and I most positively urge those of Us who are concerned about the "Riff-Raff" - to get out there and be their Teacher - be their Elmer - inculcate the Ham Values that you know so well - if Gordon West can teach tens of thousands - y'all can certainly get a shack full of Boy Scouts (AND their parents, don't forget the Dads and Moms) an evening a week - PLUS: the technological aspect of getting a Ham License is an excellent antidote against the very "dumbing-down" that many of us are so concerned about. Yet another 200 m$ from John KB6SCO DM09fg __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
Can we not file a petition for reconsideration much like the ARRL did on the last one? I've listened to enough hams already (AM & SSB) to come to the conclusion this could be a monumental petition in regard to submissions. Has anyone seen the stock prices on the "big three" just since this came out? If not, check it out. On 12/16/06, Rick Brashear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unfortunately, in this "Give me everything I want without having to work for it world..." this is but another step down the path of total irresponsibility and unaccountability. I agree with those who promote the Elmer program and I think it is a sure way to help our hobby. However, I don't think even that can replace the value of something "earned" instead of something "given". Rick/K5IZ Geoff/W5OMR wrote: > crawfish wrote: > >> I didn't see what was wrong with 5 w.p.m. for Generals and above. Oh, >> well, >> the dumbing down of America continues... >> Joe W4AAB > > > Exactly. > > })-;} __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net -- "There is nothing more uncommon than common sense." -- Frank Lloyd Wright __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
It probably would be a good idea to review some of the 3888 comments on WT 05-235 that address the code issue, among other issues that were on the table, when it was introduced. Personally, I believe you're beating a dead horse. It's been in the wind since the last WARC world-wide gathering. There's probably no rational reasoning that you could come up with that probably hasn't been vented to the FCC already. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:24:57 -0600 "A.R.S. - W5AMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Can we not file a petition for reconsideration much like the ARRL > did > on the last one? I've listened to enough hams already (AM & SSB) > to > come to the conclusion this could be a monumental petition in > regard > to submissions. Has anyone seen the stock prices on the "big > three" > just since this came out? If not, check it out. > > __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
On 12/16/06, Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It probably would be a good idea to review some of the 3888 comments on WT 05-235 that address the code issue, among other issues that were on the table, when it was introduced. Personally, I believe you're beating a dead horse. It's been in the wind since the last WARC world-wide gathering. There's probably no rational reasoning that you could come up with that probably hasn't been vented to the FCC already. I suspect you're right Pete... One thing that does bother me about some of this is how they have ignored the ham that _did_ get 13wpm who are not yet Extra, in particular the Advanced Class. Seems that 13 wpm should be worth something, but as it stands, an old Advanced class operator is given no more credit towards advancing to Extra than someone with no code at all. That to me is simply not fair no matter how you look at it. That's life though, huh? __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] Re: no code plus and minus extra
Greetings fellow devoted followers of "Amplitude Modulated Voice Communications" H.. You have forgot one of the bad things of nocode. You all will be stuck with me in a few weeks! Warming up the heaters in the Valiant, I remain, John Flood KB1FQG __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
Yep, I can sympathize with you. My son gained privileges and he's only been a ham for 3 years. Stepping back, Extras and Techs gained over the recent FCC changes, but in gains and losses in a fixed environment, if somebody gets gain, somebody has to take the loss, I don't remember how long ago the Advanced Class License testing was killed but it seems to have become the ugly step child of amateur radio similar to the Novice Class. But we can still dazzle them with our SDR's. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 16 Dec 2006 11:54:25 -0600 "A.R.S. - W5AMI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 12/16/06, Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It probably would be a good idea to review some of the 3888 > comments on > > WT 05-235 that address the code issue, among other issues that > were on > > the table, when it was introduced. Personally, I believe you're > beating a > > dead horse. It's been in the wind since the last WARC world-wide > > gathering. There's probably no rational reasoning that you could > come up > > with that probably hasn't been vented to the FCC already. > > > I suspect you're right Pete... > > One thing that does bother me about some of this is how they have > ignored the ham that _did_ get 13wpm who are not yet Extra, in > particular the Advanced Class. Seems that 13 wpm should be worth > something, but as it stands, an old Advanced class operator is > given > no more credit towards advancing to Extra than someone with no code > at > all. That to me is simply not fair no matter how you look at it. > > That's life though, huh? __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Re: no code plus and minus extra
On 12/16/06, John Flood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Greetings fellow devoted followers of "Amplitude Modulated Voice Communications" H.. You have forgot one of the bad things of nocode. You all will be stuck with me in a few weeks! Warming up the heaters in the Valiant, I remain, John Flood KB1FQG Hello John, Keep the heaters warm. As John/SCO said, there is no doubt that most no-code hams are going to be good guys, and especially those who are interested in getting on AM. I for one will welcome you to the high ranks of operating Amplitude Modulation! Even though I have not operated CW in the last few years, I do encourage you to learn it, as it is a very rewarding mode of communication once you get your speed up. At one point, I was over 20 wpm on copy, and it became fun instead of a chore. 73 Brian / w5ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
On 12/16/06, Peter Markavage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But we can still dazzle them with our SDR's. Pete, wa2cwa You got that right Pete! __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] Expanded AM Options!
I wish to thank all those AM operators who went out of their way to get on the air, many with special calls, in order to ensure a strong AM presence in the new voice bands. While I was unable to contact anyone during the first hour due to band conditions, I had 3 very nice contacts just after sundown on Friday. Of those 3 contacts, only the final one with Larry, NE1S, crashed due to the combination of band conditions and my low power. You may also be certain that our presence in the new territory was noticed by others. While most of the comments were positive, I did hear one band cop say: "That National AM Congress of Social Misfits has once again taken it upon themselves to appropriate territory to promote their own arrested development." Just think! This guy allegedly knows the code too! Well, if this is indeed the "National AM Congress," please keep up the good leadership work. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
RE: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
> Well > >Speaking as the guy who actually brought up the 'dumbing-down' issue in > this thread - I'd like to posit a Thought on the issue of "no-code ham > license" vs. "IQ". For all those that think that the code is a big part of being a knowledgeable ham keep this in mind: In the past in the military electronics schools a person that "washed out" of the electronics classes was sent to be a high speed CW operator. 73 Gary K4FMX __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
- Original Message - From: Gary Schafer . For all those that think that the code is a big part of being a knowledgeable ham keep this in mind: In the past in the military electronics schools a person that "washed out" of the electronics classes was sent to be a high speed CW operator. 73 Gary K4FMX That's right.. to learn the basics. 73 de Bill, AB6MT [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
[AMRadio] Re: the 3600 - 3635 spectrum
My biggest concern is that if there is a big influx of upgrades and newcomers to the no-code amateur world, how long before the phone bands once again become congested to the point that, even with all the expanded phone bands, there will be renewed calls to eliminate AM to make room for more appliance operators to operate SSB. But I suspect there will be an initial surge of upgrades and a few newcomers, then things will settle back to normal, with continued concern about the lack of new blood in our "dying hobby." Remember, the renewable Novice, Novice enhancement, no-code Tech, and 5 wpm General/Extra didn't have the expected impact. But one possibility is that the newcomers, if there are any, will immediately be turned off by the scratchy, quacky sound of SSB and find broadcast quality AM signals more to their liking. Don K4KYV ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
RE: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
I agree with John Lawson, that learning code has nothing to do with intelligence any more than learning Spanish or playing the guitar which I can do neither. Yes I did pass my 20WPM but I am thankful I don't have it to do again. So let us all hope that the loss of the testing for CW will bring a wonderful new set of people into the ranks of amateur radio but also that CW will always be allowed as a mode of operation on any amateur frequency. Although I think there are some frequencies where SSB is all that can be used!! Merry Christmas to all, I will remain a subscriber of the list here but unfortunately I will not have the time for reading or writing. I am staying in the list so as to have the archive. I am sorry but life dictates that I set up some priorities and one of them is to become more active on the air and to help more with the things at work, home and kids. So, those of you that want a response from me please take note of the email address and I hope to talk to you on the ether. May your cat whiskers always be easy to adjust 73 John, WA5BXO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
John, YES!!! Bob AB8OP __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO) wrote: Merry Christmas to all, I will remain a subscriber of the list here but unfortunately I will not have the time for reading or writing. I am staying in the list so as to have the archive. I am sorry but life dictates that I set up some priorities and one of them is to become more active on the air and to help more with the things at work, home and kids. So, those of you that want a response from me please take note of the email address and I hope to talk to you on the ether. May your cat whiskers always be easy to adjust 73 John, WA5BXO This is a sad day for the list. Probably most of you do not realize what a treasure-chest of knowledge John is. Your presence shall be missed, ol' buddy. -- 73, etc -Geoff/W5OMR __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
On 12/16/06, Geoff/W5OMR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO) wrote: > Merry Christmas to all, > I will remain a subscriber of the list here but unfortunately I will > not have the time for reading or writing. I am staying in the list so as to > have the archive. I am sorry but life dictates that I set up some > priorities and one of them is to become more active on the air and to help > more with the things at work, home and kids. So, those of you that want a > response from me please take note of the email address and I hope to talk to > you on the ether. > > May your cat whiskers always be easy to adjust > 73 > John, WA5BXO I really hate to hear this too John. We will keep the list open for you anytime you can get back to it. Your input will surely be missed. Also, thanks so much for getting Otis to your shack the other night. I really enjoyed working him again after 4 or 5 years. I hope we can help him get back on more often. Thanks & 73, Brian / ami __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
A.R.S. - W5AMI wrote: Speaking of Thursday night, I did manage to capture some audio from John, Otis and Brian/AMI... I'll send it to John, let him put it on his server, and either have him post the link, or have him reply to it in email. -- 73 dit dit __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
RE: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
What about the rest of the planet? Do they require code? I sure wish everyone could agree on 40 meters at night, is it ham or broadcast? Can someone tell me what class licenses there are now, and what is needed to get what class? No code I guess, so its just a test? Where do you get the test, at a fest? Since I have an old 13 wpm general class, I should upgrade to the top I guess. Brett N2DTS > > Well > > > >Speaking as the guy who actually brought up the > 'dumbing-down' issue in > > this thread - I'd like to posit a Thought on the issue of > "no-code ham > > license" vs. "IQ". > > For all those that think that the code is a big part of being a > knowledgeable ham keep this in mind: In the past in the > military electronics > schools a person that "washed out" of the electronics classes > was sent to be > a high speed CW operator. > > 73 > Gary K4FMX > > > __ > AMRadio mailing list > List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio > Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html > Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net > __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
RE: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
For all those that think that the code is a big part of being a knowledgeable ham keep this in mind: In the past in the military electronics schools a person that "washed out" of the electronics classes was sent to be a high speed CW operator. 73 Gary K4FMX SNIP Gary: what military are you talking about Navy did not do that. the Marines were given guns and sent to a rifle squad. sailors were sent to electrical school at least that was what happened back in the 60's 73 Tony QBE ZUT DE WA4JQS ANTHONY W. (Tony) DePrato WA4JQS EXTRA - HEAVY Since 1962 CQ DX HALL OF FAME # 35 A1-OP FISTS # 10573 SKCC #1227 South Sandwich Island Dxpedition Group CALLS HELD: WA4JQS/ZS1, WA4JQS/KC4, WA4JQS/4K1 ZD8JQS, V31SS, VP8BZL, VP8SSI, 3Y0PI __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
RE: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:amradio- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony W. DePrato > Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2006 9:39 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service > Subject: RE: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons > > > > > >For all those that think that the code is a big part of being a > >knowledgeable ham keep this in mind: In the past in the military > electronics > >schools a person that "washed out" of the electronics classes was sent to > be > >a high speed CW operator. > > > >73 > >Gary K4FMX > > SNIP > Gary: > what military are you talking about Navy did not do that. the Marines were > given guns and sent to a rifle squad. sailors were sent to electrical > school > at least that was what happened back in the 60's > 73 Tony Air force. 73 Gary K4FMX __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] No Code Pros and Cons
John, you have helped me several times with your always accurate advice. I'll sure miss that, but your presence is what I'll miss most. Take care, buddy. I hope you find time to stop by every once in a while. Merry Christmas and best 73, Rick/K5IZ Geoff/W5OMR wrote: John E. Coleman (ARS WA5BXO) wrote: Merry Christmas to all, I will remain a subscriber of the list here but unfortunately I will not have the time for reading or writing. I am staying in the list so as to have the archive. I am sorry but life dictates that I set up some priorities and one of them is to become more active on the air and to help more with the things at work, home and kids. So, those of you that want a response from me please take note of the email address and I hope to talk to you on the ether. May your cat whiskers always be easy to adjust 73 John, WA5BXO __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
Re: [AMRadio] Re: Screen Modulated 813
Thanks, Larry Bacon, WA3WDR > Great stuff, Bacon! > > Thanks... > -Larry/NE1S __ AMRadio mailing list List Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Partner Website: http://www.amfone.net Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net
