[amsat-bb] -={Echo Madness}=-
I was hoping to get some feedback from you guys. I have only been operating for a short time and had some hicup's along the way. I found some recordings of when I first started...There were some I could not hear the bird, and the very first ones were pretty funny. I got some schooling on my form pretty quick from you guy's. I wish I would have listened to passes before I started, at the time I did not know they existed... I saw a post about making one contact per pass, well I am guilty. However, I have been listening to my passes and I dont think I am too intrusive, and I get stepped on all the time. My brother say's that I am terribly addicted when I was upset when I could not get in on the maddness when they changed the uplink, pretty funny really. I was all checkin the equipment from top to bottom. Anyway, I try to call the new guys, because I remember how excited I was, hearing someone calling me. I still enjoy it, wether it be on VHF/UHF or HF. Is not that the reason we do this is to have fun? Sure there are times I get frustrated, cant get in or what not. Maybe that is what this is all about. Should I just not jump in there and free up the bird that much more, I suppose so. There are plenty of times when the 51 is not all jammed up, maybe the people who are all upset about the Echo Madness should just get up early, I can hear the east coast pass in the morning, not bad at all as far as traffic goes. There are lot's of times I am talking to myself on all the FM Birds. In the future, on the weekends when it is REALLY busy, are you guys saying I should just step aside and not operate because it is too busy? Get Real, there is always gonna be pile up's on the weekends. That is why these BIG GUNS are big guns, because they want to be heard. You can not tell me they are not running all kinds of power equipment and what have you. That sucks for us little guys, but oh well I am not crying, thats just the way it is and always will be. Back to the point, please let me know if you think I need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder. I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is a solution... Kevin KF7MYK nvllrc.org ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Delfi-n3Xt Telemetry Equations Format
Hi,, I note that in another thread Wouter PE3WJ mentions the the next Delfi satellite n3Xt currently being constructed. Can we be assured that full details of the telemetry equations and decoding format for defli-n3Xt will be published, preferably before launch. With the considerable interest shown in the Funcube Dongle I'm sure that many satellite enthusiasts will want to write their own decoding software. In the case of delfi-C3 I received a large number of packets using my G3RUH hardware decoder, but was unable to decode them, due to not having the telemetry details. I had hoped to publish details of my experiments. After repeated requests for the information I was eventually told that it was commercially confidential and could not be published. IIRC this information has to be made available to the IARU satellite coordinator before launch, and updated when there any changes, following launch. AFAIK it is against amateur radio license regulations to transmit coded information in the amateur bands, unless the decoding information is freely available. The only exception being access codes to control the satellite, for obvious reasons. I trust that delfi-C3 won't set a precedent for future projects and this problem will not arise again. We want to encourage radio amateurs and students to experiment and avoid the 'black box' culture as much as possible. I will be interested in any comments. 73 Clive G3CWV Hitchin, North Hertfordshire, UK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Experience - MASPRO WHS32N Oscar Hunter
Hi, Thanks for reading. I bought a couple of MASPRO WHS32N Oscar Hunter antennas and I am looking for some other HAM operators that use these antennas and would like to receive some experiences with these and maybe some mods they have made to them (Link with information about them: http://www.ham.vgnet.nl/?Antenna:In_use) 73 Jan PE0SAT ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] ND9M/MM Op Sked: FL08 Update
My ship kicked into high gear overnight and is much farther along than our voyage plan called for. We're crossing into FL08 in a few minutes instead of later this afternoon. I'll try to be on SO67 at 29/1311Z and whatever pass(es) occur while we're in the grid. We won't be in the grid all that long, so hopefully I won't get called out for an assignment at pass time. 73, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Fwd: ND9M/MM Op Sked: FL08 Update
Didn't see this here yet, so forwarding just in case. 73 de Sebastian, W4AS Begin forwarded message: From: Clary, James T, Civilian james.t.clary@msc.navy.mil Date: March 29, 2011 8:39:47 AM EDT To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: ND9M/MM Op Sked: FL08 Update My ship kicked into high gear overnight and is much farther along than our voyage plan called for. We’re crossing into FL08 in a few minutes instead of later this afternoon. I’ll try to be on SO67 at 29/1311Z and whatever pass(es) occur while we’re in the grid. We won’t be in the grid all that long, so hopefully I won’t get called out for an assignment at pass time. 73, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Working the FM Satellites
... Back to the point, please let me know if you think I need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder. Personally, I think you have an excellent attitude, Kevin. It is darned near the same philosophy/mantra that I communicate during my satellite presentations. ... I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I don't know if there is a solution ... Desiring a solution is indicative of there being a problem. It has not been demonstrated to my satisfaction that there is a massive problem that required re-thinking of what FM sats are al about. Clint Bradford, K6LCS 909-241-7666 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
Hello Kevin and group,
Back to the point, please let me know if you think I
need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder.
I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is
a solution...
At this stage in the game, there really is no solution per say. When there
is 30-40
guys on ONE frequency trying to make QSOs, what else can we expect? Yes,
there are some rude practices going on, but is that any different than what
happens when we get in our car and jump on the freeway
at rush hour? Or how about the grocery store? All you can do is to 1) make
sure you are not part of the issue, 2) adapt to the situation, even if it
means not making any QSOs and just listening, and 3) run full duplex if
you can. I understand that there are some that might not be able to afford
a second
radio, and I am by no means slamming you for that. I would, however, put a
second HT/full duplex rig on your list for future purchases. You will be
amazed at the difference it makes - trust me! I thought full duplex sounded
dumb until I tried it, now I don't know if I could do a pass without it.
Most of all, don't complain about that situation (not that you were, Kevin).
What happens on the road when you complain to the other driver about
cutting you off? It usually ends up in something pretty ugly. No different
here - it just fuels the fire. If you don't like it, do what you can to
work around the situation and keep your expectations low, and if you really
hate it, don't get on. Not all passes are bad - I was on a great afternoon
pass of AO27 yesterday that covered all of the US, and it was great! We are
talking of 1-2 crazy passes in the evening, and then the weekends
obviously - not all passes. And I am referring to the FM sats - the SSB/CW
birds are wide open.
Regarding discussion of switching the uplinks randomly, and
only notifying a select group... While this may be the easy way out of the
issue (until everyone catches on), it definitely does not correspond with
what Ham radio has at its roots - hams helping and mentoring other hams. I
can only imagine how I would feel if I found out that us new hams were being
shut out so the regulars could carry on a QSO without interference. The new
guys and new guys to come have as much right to transmit as anyone else that
uses them. Just keep in mind that pretty much everyone here that reads this
was a newbie at one time, made their first QSO, stepped on someone for the
first time and probably frustrated someone for the first time.
There has been much discussion about the issue of operator rudeness/busy
passes on the QRZ forums, here at the BB, and even during busy satellite
passes comments have been made, but I am not seeing a big difference in
operating practices - things are still crazy at certain times. As Clint
stated, this does seem to be blown out of proportion a bit. Look at it
mathematically: On a typical weekend AO51 pass there can be as many as 30
stations x 2 QSOs each (not many) = 60 QSOs during a 12 minute pass. That is
5 QSOs/minute - 1 QSO every *12* seconds. These are rough estimates, but
when you think about all these stations on ONE frequency, it should not
surprise anyone that is gets crazy.
Just try to enjoy it for what it is - it is a really neat and challenging
aspect of the hobby. If we have to put up with a bit of craziness on
certain passes, I hate to say it, but that is just part of this aspect of
the hobby. Again, we are talking about one satellite (mainly AO51) on a
select few passes. This is not an issue spread across the board. There are
still many quiet birds and passes, just take the time to find which ones
work best for you.
73,
Zack
KD8KSN
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Deane
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:26 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] -={Echo Madness}=-
I was hoping to get some feedback from you guys. I have only been operating
for a short time and had some hicup's along the way. I found some recordings
of when I first started...There were some I could not hear the bird, and the
very first ones were pretty funny. I got some schooling on my form pretty
quick from you guy's. I wish I would have listened to passes before I
started, at the time I did not know they existed...
I saw a post about making one contact per pass, well I am guilty. However, I
have been listening to my passes and I dont think I am too intrusive, and I
get stepped on all the time. My brother say's that I am terribly addicted
when I was upset when I could not get in on the maddness when they changed
the uplink, pretty funny really. I was all checkin the equipment from top to
bottom.
Anyway, I try to call the new guys, because I remember how excited I was,
hearing someone calling me. I still enjoy it, wether it be on VHF/UHF or HF.
Is not that the reason we do this is to have fun? Sure there are times I get
frustrated, cant get in or what not. Maybe that is what this is all about.
Should I just not jump
[amsat-bb] Lehman HS ISS Contact
Monitoring the ISS ... Great, informative answers from the astronaut. Clint Bradford, K6LCS 909-241-7666 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] AO-7 Minimalist
Those of you working AO-7, what is a good minimalistic set-up? Should I be able to work it with an Arrow antenna, a RX pre-amp, and a Ten Tec Mode B box? Bill W1PA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 Minimalist
On 3/29/2011 2:11 PM, Bill Acito W1PA wrote: Those of you working AO-7, what is a good minimalistic set-up? Should I be able to work it with an Arrow antenna, a RX pre-amp, and a Ten Tec Mode B box? Bill W1PA Keep in mind the uplink is 432, not 435 where the TenTecs normally are. I suppose you could recrystal the transmitter, but not sure how well it will tune/work 3 MHz off. Otherwise, I usually have no problem with an Arrow and pair of 817s, or even a whip on the downlink and UHF half of an Arrow on the uplink, and 5 watts. 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: FW: delfi c3 (do-64) tlm software FOUND
Hi All, The original website is up again. The familiar download spot is now back at http://www.delfic3.nl/rascal The link that Wouter Jan PE4WJ sent is also a valid download, but the original Delfi-C3 team cannot update that server. 73 Wouter Weggelaar PA3WEG Delfi-C3 operations team On Sat, Mar 26, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Mike Rupprecht m...@mike-rupprecht.de wrote: Larry, the download link for the RASCAL software was on my satellites - DELFI-C3 site. Under the software section you will find only software written by myself. But meanwhile Wouter sent the original link to the new DELFI website... 73, Mike -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] Im Auftrag von larry Gesendet: Samstag, 26. März 2011 01:20 An: amsat-bb@amsat.org Betreff: [amsat-bb] FW: delfi c3 (do-64) tlm software FOUND Thanks for the assistance in locating the software. I just took another look on dk3wn's site and unless I'm doing something wrong, I don't see it in the software page anywhere. Yet it is on the other page. Guess that's what I get for not fully checking out Mike's page - which I sure will do now! 73's... Larry N1MIW ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Working the FM Satellites
Desiring a solution is indicative of there being a problem. It has not been demonstrated to my satisfaction that there is a massive problem that required re-thinking of what FM sats are all about. Lots of users and limited resources is always ugly... whether it be traffic, water, groceries, black-friday sales, or working a new grid on a FM bird. Rare grids or Field Day on a FM-bird may not be a problem, but certainly does not hold us in the best light. I thought the purpose of satellite on Field Day was to encourage new users to the mode... would you introduce someone to ham radio by letting them listen to a rare dx pile-up? An aside: is the use of QRZ? on the rare-grid side frowned upon? or would it make things worse? I think a lot of the errant calling is folks trying to separate from capture effect, or guessing when the rare one is listening. I hear this a lot on the ISS voice passes as well, where you can't hear the uplink of others. Bill W1PA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 Minimalist
Hi Bill! Those of you working AO-7, what is a good minimalistic set-up? Should I be able to work it with an Arrow antenna, a RX pre-amp, and a Ten Tec Mode B box? Another minimalist. :-) Yes, you should be able to work it that way. I currently work AO-7 and the other non-FM birds (FO-29, VO-52, and - when it was working and in SSB - HO-68) with the following: TX: Yaesu FT-817ND (5W) RX: another FT-817ND or Kenwood TH-F6A (all-mode receiver in this HT) Ant: Elk Antennas handheld 2m/70cm log periodic I have a 10-foot length of RG58 from the antenna to a Comet diplexer, then 3-foot lengths from each band's port on the diplexer to each radio. I do not use preamps, although on shallow passes I will not use the HT as my downlink receiver. The 817's receiver is more sensitive at 2m and 70cm in SSB/CW, but HTs like the TH-F6A have receivers that are more sensitive in FM. In the past couple of years, I have logged several hundred QSOs in SSB, and a handful in CW, with this portable station. I don't have a home station, so I do all my operating with this setup from wherever I go. Other than the antenna and anything not permitted in carry-on luggage, this station fits in an old laptop bag, and has traveled across the US as well as to Canada and Mexico. Good luck, and maybe we can hook up on AO-7 or one of the other non-FM birds. 73! Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK http://www.wd9ewk.net/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
I think part of the problem is that we are victims of our own success. There have been numerous articles and presentations about how easy it is to get on the FM satellites with just an HT or dualband FM rig (and mine isn't even a true dualband, it just receives on UHF), and this has been so persuasive, that everyone is now trying it. That is good, it gives us more activity, more new grid squares to work, etc. If the regulars want to get on and ragchew with each other you need to do that on the SSB satellites, as the FM satellites don't really support that activity. Anyways, as most of us who are using less than optimized circularly polarized beams with elevation and preamps can attest to, you get some decent fading from time to time on the received signal. I think this is what leads to much of the QRM. The satellite briefly fades out so some of the stations don't know that someone is already talking so they start making calls. I have heard quite a few stations more or less call CQ on the satellite and they must not hear it very well because I can hear several stations come back to them and they just keep CQing instead. 73s John AA5JG On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Zachary Beougher zack.kd8...@hotmail.comwrote: Hello Kevin and group, Back to the point, please let me know if you think I need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder. I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is a solution... At this stage in the game, there really is no solution per say. When there is 30-40 guys on ONE frequency trying to make QSOs, what else can we expect? Yes, there are some rude practices going on, but is that any different than what happens when we get in our car and jump on the freeway at rush hour? Or how about the grocery store? All you can do is to 1) make sure you are not part of the issue, 2) adapt to the situation, even if it means not making any QSOs and just listening, and 3) run full duplex if you can. I understand that there are some that might not be able to afford a second radio, and I am by no means slamming you for that. I would, however, put a second HT/full duplex rig on your list for future purchases. You will be amazed at the difference it makes - trust me! I thought full duplex sounded dumb until I tried it, now I don't know if I could do a pass without it. Most of all, don't complain about that situation (not that you were, Kevin). What happens on the road when you complain to the other driver about cutting you off? It usually ends up in something pretty ugly. No different here - it just fuels the fire. If you don't like it, do what you can to work around the situation and keep your expectations low, and if you really hate it, don't get on. Not all passes are bad - I was on a great afternoon pass of AO27 yesterday that covered all of the US, and it was great! We are talking of 1-2 crazy passes in the evening, and then the weekends obviously - not all passes. And I am referring to the FM sats - the SSB/CW birds are wide open. Regarding discussion of switching the uplinks randomly, and only notifying a select group... While this may be the easy way out of the issue (until everyone catches on), it definitely does not correspond with what Ham radio has at its roots - hams helping and mentoring other hams. I can only imagine how I would feel if I found out that us new hams were being shut out so the regulars could carry on a QSO without interference. The new guys and new guys to come have as much right to transmit as anyone else that uses them. Just keep in mind that pretty much everyone here that reads this was a newbie at one time, made their first QSO, stepped on someone for the first time and probably frustrated someone for the first time. There has been much discussion about the issue of operator rudeness/busy passes on the QRZ forums, here at the BB, and even during busy satellite passes comments have been made, but I am not seeing a big difference in operating practices - things are still crazy at certain times. As Clint stated, this does seem to be blown out of proportion a bit. Look at it mathematically: On a typical weekend AO51 pass there can be as many as 30 stations x 2 QSOs each (not many) = 60 QSOs during a 12 minute pass. That is 5 QSOs/minute - 1 QSO every *12* seconds. These are rough estimates, but when you think about all these stations on ONE frequency, it should not surprise anyone that is gets crazy. Just try to enjoy it for what it is - it is a really neat and challenging aspect of the hobby. If we have to put up with a bit of craziness on certain passes, I hate to say it, but that is just part of this aspect of the hobby. Again, we are talking about one satellite (mainly AO51) on a select few passes. This is not an issue spread across the board. There are still many quiet birds and passes, just take the time to find which ones work best for you. 73,
[amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 questions
One more SO-67 question. Why is there an echo on the downlink? Usually I hear someone talking and then hear the same words a second or two later, but much louder. 73, Bill NZ5N Is SO-67 operating on the published frequencies (145.870/435.345) or does one of up/down need an adjustment? What is the meaning of Use Narrow FM on the uplink on the AMSAT detail page for SO-67? Not sure if I know of any such configuration on the Yaesu FT-847. Thanks - Dave N7LKL ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] echo madness
to Kevin Deane and others If the QRM on the sats is too much for you people to take in the northern hemi just move to beautiful Australia or shaky New Zealand where at the most that we get on AO51 in the evening is no more than six or seven and we have a round table discussion, not chasing grid squares as there are only 22million people in VK and 4 million in ZL. I say this with smile on my face Graham McPhee VK2AYE ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
Not directed at the authors, but in listening to the recording of that pass, I think it could have easily done without the multiple CQ's along with the whistling and blowing into the mike...eliminate those bad habits first and then working on not interrupting quick, 4 transmission exchanges and trying to keep transmissions short would result in a much less chaotic atmosphere, even without running full duplex. Roger WA1KAT Zachary Beougher wrote: Hello Kevin and group, Back to the point, please let me know if you think I need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder. I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is a solution... At this stage in the game, there really is no solution per say. When there is 30-40 guys on ONE frequency trying to make QSOs, what else can we expect? ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] CW signal heard
I am very new to satellites so please don't be too hard on me in regards to this post. This afternoon at about14:50 cst (07:50 utc) I copied cw that started at 435.310mhz and eventually made it to 435.292 before fading away at roughly 15:00 cst. I am south of Houston, TX, grid EL29, Texas City, TX near Galveston, TX. The code was always 5 character groups. Some of what I copied is MCO53, SMA127, SMB0?, US17A I looked on the AMSAT page to see what satellite was overhead and I did not really see one that would fit the strength of the signal (S9) that I was hearing. Perhaps someone can inform me as to what satellite I was hearing. Also at the time I heard what I believe is some form of radar that sounded almost like a siren. The signal was pinning the S-meter. Each time I heard the siren signal I had low flying jets above. No doubt in my mind there was a connection between the two. The jets were over 3 times, the siren signal was also 3 times. It was strongest when the jets were directly overhead. Please excuse me if my questions have already been answered. 73, James WA5AOO ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: CW signal heard
You probably heard RS-30. It comes in quite well on 70cm. SOmetimes I find it following close to AO-51 passes. Reid, W4UPD On 3/29/2011 4:17 PM, James Luhn wrote: I am very new to satellites so please don't be too hard on me in regards to this post. This afternoon at about14:50 cst (07:50 utc) I copied cw that started at 435.310mhz and eventually made it to 435.292 before fading away at roughly 15:00 cst. I am south of Houston, TX, grid EL29, Texas City, TX near Galveston, TX. The code was always 5 character groups. Some of what I copied is MCO53, SMA127, SMB0?, US17A I looked on the AMSAT page to see what satellite was overhead and I did not really see one that would fit the strength of the signal (S9) that I was hearing. Perhaps someone can inform me as to what satellite I was hearing. Also at the time I heard what I believe is some form of radar that sounded almost like a siren. The signal was pinning the S-meter. Each time I heard the siren signal I had low flying jets above. No doubt in my mind there was a connection between the two. The jets were over 3 times, the siren signal was also 3 times. It was strongest when the jets were directly overhead. Please excuse me if my questions have already been answered. 73, James WA5AOO ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: CW signal heard
On 3/29/2011 4:17 PM, James Luhn wrote: This afternoon at about14:50 cst (07:50 utc) I copied cw that started at 435.310mhz and eventually made it to 435.292 before fading away at roughly 15:00 cst. I am south of Houston, TX, grid EL29, Texas City, TX near Galveston, TX. The code was always 5 character groups. Some of what I copied is MCO53, SMA127, SMB0?, US17A I looked on the AMSAT page to see what satellite was overhead and I did not really see one that would fit the strength of the signal (S9) that I was hearing. Perhaps someone can inform me as to what satellite I was hearing. Sounds like RS-30 to me...a real shame there is no real amateur payload on that satellite! 73, Drew KO4MA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 questions echo on the downlink
Hi Bill, It may be the parrot getting triggered by strong uplink signals with high FM deviation. I have heard the same on passes over Europe. Not very often - just now and again. 73 OZ1MY/Ib -Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] På vegne af Bill Dzurilla Sendt: 29. marts 2011 21:19 Til: amsat-bb@amsat.org Emne: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 questions One more SO-67 question. Why is there an echo on the downlink? Usually I hear someone talking and then hear the same words a second or two later, but much louder. 73, Bill NZ5N Is SO-67 operating on the published frequencies (145.870/435.345) or does one of up/down need an adjustment? What is the meaning of Use Narrow FM on the uplink on the AMSAT detail page for SO-67? Not sure if I know of any such configuration on the Yaesu FT-847. Thanks - Dave N7LKL ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
There is only ONE WAY to stop the mess on AO51. Turn it off and let Drew
turn it on when he wants to make a sked with someone . He caused me to miss a
grid contact Sunday when he changed the TX freq in the middle of a pass . He
was wrong in doing that. AO51 is out of control. If an operator needs to be
contacted by email and have proper operation explaned to them ,let KO4MA do it.
We can type these usless messages here till we all get blisters on our fingers
and it will not make any difference. Alot of the people who are causing the
mess dont even use the Amsat BB .
WA4HFN Damon
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From: Roger Kolakowski rogerk...@aol.com
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Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:03:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
Not directed at the authors, but in listening to the recording of that
pass, I think it could have easily done without the multiple CQ's along
with the whistling and blowing into the mike...eliminate those bad
habits first and then working on not interrupting quick, 4 transmission
exchanges and trying to keep transmissions short would result in a much
less chaotic atmosphere, even without running full duplex.
Roger
WA1KAT
Zachary Beougher wrote:
Hello Kevin and group,
Back to the point, please let me know if you think I
need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder.
I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is
a solution...
At this stage in the game, there really is no solution per say. When there
is 30-40
guys on ONE frequency trying to make QSOs, what else can we expect?
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[amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
Personally, if anyone wants to control who uses a satellite, then make the satellite digital and give each participant a digital code (which can be filtered later). Include a list of acceptable usage with it. If that person violates the acceptable usage then revoke his digital code and he is gone forever. Hm satellite moderation, just like what was tried here on the -bb a few years back when flames and flame throwers got a little out of hand. We received rules of use and if you violate them, you were banned from the -bb. I can also remember many years ago in so-35, uo-14 days, there was a ham that used to have conversations with his xyl on many of the passes. Turned out he was in South America working as a missionary and he thought he was talking on a really quiet simplex frequency (the satellite uplink). After days and days of listening, we finally caught a call sign. I wrote him a letter and explained that we were all listening to the two of them and if he could QSY. Not a problem, within a week he was gone and in about another week, he had written me saying he did not know he was interfering with the satellite. There really is no solution to a satellite that uses a particular uplink frequency to keep those that use the simplex frequency or are actually trying to make a satellite contact and use poor operating practices. After all, when P5/4L4FN was operating from North Korea, there were many that made dozens of HF SSB contacts with him when one was enough to give them the rarest of all DX. There were also many pirates jamming the frequencies and a real mess. I know this first hand as I am the QSL manager. Satellites are no different from rare DX, everyone wants a piece of it and they want it now. As we are trying to get more and more hams interested in the satellites, we are going to simply have more trying to use the same space. One solution is for the experienced satellite operators to move from the single channel FM satellites over to the SSB birds. 73...bruce -- Bruce Paige, KK5DO AMSAT Director Contests and Awards ARRL Awards Manager (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT* Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News http://www.arrl.org AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now!
My ship will be pulling into Jacksonville (EM90) late tonight, so there are no more wet grids to operate from for the time being. It'll be nice to at least try sleeping through the night tonight for the first time in weeks without getting up for an oh-dark-30 pass. I've been doing it for so long that I'll probably be awake at some ridiculous pass-time hour anyway, but I'll try not to be. We're due at Charleston SC on 10 April. The run from Jax to Charleston is just a few hours, but I'm told that since another ship is scheduled to take our berth at the Jacksonville dock on the 6th, we'll be leaving a few days early. We won't have a destination, other than Charleston four days later, but I don't know if we'll head out a few miles and do a controlled drift or do donuts until it's time to head in. I'll keep an eye on the navigation charts, and will update the BB if it looks like we'll be in a wet grid when there's a pass coming up. Meanwhile, I'll finish getting my logs together and get ready to sign off the ship when we arrive at Charleston. I'll post a trip wrap up in a few days once I get the numbers compiled. Tks for helping to make the two-month voyage a memorable one! 73 for now, Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC Jacksonville / EM90 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Looking for a manual for a Ten Tec 2510
2510, not 2510B. Not on Ten Tec's site, W7FG doesn't have them, and waiting on one other commercial site that might have one. Willing to pay reasonable copying costs. As Drew pointed out, this needs to be brought down from 435 to 432 -- anyone ever done that? Bill W1PA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now!
On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Clary, James T, Civilian wrote: Tks for helping to make the two-month voyage a memorable one! Jim, We all owe you a big thanks for sacrificing your sleep to active those rare wet grids in the wee hours. I logged 48 new grids thanks to you. It could have been more if I hadn't had to be at work during a number of your operations. 73 and let your vacation time begin! Glenn AA5PK in DM91 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now!
I'm sure most on here don't know that Jim was also supplying many non-satellite hams with very rare grids on both 2 meters and 70 cm as his ship left the western tip of Cuba, all the way to Jacksonville Florida. NZ5N and I emailed Jim a few days ago, to see if he would be willing to spend even more time holding his antenna outside and talking into his mike when he wasn't working the satellites. He replied saying he would be very happy to. Jim would send us periodic emails listing the time and grid he would be at, and we agreed to use 144.230 on 2 meter SSB. The 144 MHz propagation logger was also used to notify hams in the area, including N3LL near Tampa Florida to the west, C6ANX in the Bahamas to the east, and several others near Jacksonville and perhaps above. We also had various opportunities to chew the rag with Jim. And yes, there were pileups! The antenna Jim uses (an Elk I believe) was simply amazing. On 2 meters, to the south I worked him at a distance of 151 miles, and to the north a distance of 204 miles. On 432 my distances were a lot less, but thats because I presently only have my circularly polarized satellite antenna that is just 12 feet off the ground. These contacts were made on 'normal days' with 'normal conditions', no tropospheric ducting was involved. Other than the grids being rare, it's a rare opportunity to find such a kind and patient person. Thanks Jim! 73 de Sebastian, W4AS On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Glenn AA5PK wrote: On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Clary, James T, Civilian wrote: Tks for helping to make the two-month voyage a memorable one! Jim, We all owe you a big thanks for sacrificing your sleep to active those rare wet grids in the wee hours. I logged 48 new grids thanks to you. It could have been more if I hadn't had to be at work during a number of your operations. 73 and let your vacation time begin! Glenn AA5PK in DM91 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Lehman High School on Fox News, Austin
Fox News covers Lehman event ... http://tinyurl.com/iss-lehman -or- http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/Lehman-HS-Students-Tal-to-Astronauts-20110329-ktbcw Clint, K6LCS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
