[amsat-bb] AO-51 crash 3 May 2011
Hi All, This morning we have confirmed that the software on AO-51 has crashed. I was able to get it turned ON (and then back off), so we aren't lost in space. Software reloading should commence this afternoon. Expect this to take a few days, given that it's a gradual process and a work week. We'll let you know when the reload is complete. 73, Mark L. Hammond [N8MH] ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Help Desperately with Rotator YAESU g-5400b
Keep in mind that the G5400B elevation comes in two different flavors. This is important if you have to order parts. For example, the older unit uses a light weight motor and costs about $80. The newer version like I have costs almost $250.00 for the motor which is heavier duty. YOu have received a lot of good information here. Also, if you are interested you can go to my site which contains a G5400.zip file with pictures, drawings, schematics, and other information provided by many on this list. Hopefully it will be of some help to you. ftp://ftp.bristor-assoc.com/pub/Amateur/Satellite/G5400.zip Regards, Reid, W4UPD Amsat #17002 On 5/3/2011 1:10 AM, John Kopala wrote: One correction to the information on the G5400B. The schematic locates the capacitors in the rotor for elevation and in the control box for azimuth. This unit uses relays to perform the actual switching. So check the following: 1. Disconnect wires 4, 5, and 6 to the elevation rotor. If you don't disconnect the wires, you will get a reading on both pins 4 and 5 measured from pin 6 due to the run capacitor. 2. Use a voltmeter to check for AC voltage between pin 6 and Pin 5 when you press the UP button. 3. Check for AC voltage between pin 6 and pin 4 when you press the down button. 4. I don't know the exact voltage but would guess something around 25 to 30 volts AC. 5. If these work correctly, the problem could be the limit switch, the run capacitor, or the motor, all located in the rotor housing. 6. If either voltage is not present the problem is in the control box and could be either the relay or the relay driver transistor. That should help pin things down quickly. I'll send the schematic directly. John Kopala N7JK Hi Folks, hope in an help to solve my problem with my Rotator Yaesu G-5400B. Today i was tracking the ISS, ad while i was tracking it I got The AO-51 in AOS. As I am using the Trackbox, and i did not have under my eyes the control box, I heard the Trackbox passing from ISS to AO-51. I gave an eye to the control box and saw it was stuck at 35 degrees and it did not go down to the 0 degrees to start the AOS. I have pulled out the connector which connects the control box to the Track box and tried manually To bring down the antennas. I've tried to press the DOWN switch, but they did not move from that position. I've tried to press the UP switch and noticed that the antennas moves going up. Then i have tried also with the RIGHT and LEFT switches of the Azimuth and noticed also that the antennas moves in both sides. At the end i can say that the antenna moves in all the positions except for down. Please anybody can tell me what is happened? As the antennas are now stuck at 45 degrees i am afraid that the wind can cause problems. I Hope in an help. Any help will be really appreciated. Thanks in Advance 73 de Enzo IK8OZV ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Help Desperately with Rotator YAESU g-5400b
If I'm not mistaken, Enzo did a bunch of wire swapping and now it is working correctly. Seems like it was a connection issue. 73, Mark N8MH At 08:30 AM 5/3/2011 -0400, w4upd wrote: Keep in mind that the G5400B elevation comes in two different flavors. This is important if you have to order parts. For example, the older unit uses a light weight motor and costs about $80. The newer version like I have costs almost $250.00 for the motor which is heavier duty. YOu have received a lot of good information here. Also, if you are interested you can go to my site which contains a G5400.zip file with pictures, drawings, schematics, and other information provided by many on this list. Hopefully it will be of some help to you. ftp://ftp.bristor-assoc.com/pub/Amateur/Satellite/G5400.zip Regards, Reid, W4UPD Amsat #17002 On 5/3/2011 1:10 AM, John Kopala wrote: One correction to the information on the G5400B. The schematic locates the capacitors in the rotor for elevation and in the control box for azimuth. This unit uses relays to perform the actual switching. So check the following: 1. Disconnect wires 4, 5, and 6 to the elevation rotor. If you don't disconnect the wires, you will get a reading on both pins 4 and 5 measured from pin 6 due to the run capacitor. 2. Use a voltmeter to check for AC voltage between pin 6 and Pin 5 when you press the UP button. 3. Check for AC voltage between pin 6 and pin 4 when you press the down button. 4. I don't know the exact voltage but would guess something around 25 to 30 volts AC. 5. If these work correctly, the problem could be the limit switch, the run capacitor, or the motor, all located in the rotor housing. 6. If either voltage is not present the problem is in the control box and could be either the relay or the relay driver transistor. That should help pin things down quickly. I'll send the schematic directly. John Kopala N7JK Hi Folks, hope in an help to solve my problem with my Rotator Yaesu G-5400B. Today i was tracking the ISS, ad while i was tracking it I got The AO-51 in AOS. As I am using the Trackbox, and i did not have under my eyes the control box, I heard the Trackbox passing from ISS to AO-51. I gave an eye to the control box and saw it was stuck at 35 degrees and it did not go down to the 0 degrees to start the AOS. I have pulled out the connector which connects the control box to the Track box and tried manually To bring down the antennas. I've tried to press the DOWN switch, but they did not move from that position. I've tried to press the UP switch and noticed that the antennas moves going up. Then i have tried also with the RIGHT and LEFT switches of the Azimuth and noticed also that the antennas moves in both sides. At the end i can say that the antenna moves in all the positions except for down. Please anybody can tell me what is happened? As the antennas are now stuck at 45 degrees i am afraid that the wind can cause problems. I Hope in an help. Any help will be really appreciated. Thanks in Advance 73 de Enzo IK8OZV ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] SO-67
Thanks to the hard work of the folks at Sunspace and AMSAT-SA, it looks like SO-67 will be back on this week. I have sent them the following schedule for North and South America, although sometimes not all the passes are possible. Take advantage of this satellite while we reload AO-51! 73, Drew KO4MA 3MAY2011 0115 0305 0440 1010 1145 1305 1440 1610 1745 1915 2325 4MAY2010 0110 0245 0425 1125 1300 1420 1555 1725 2305 5MAY2010 0055 0230 0405 0545 1105 1235 1400 1535 1710 1840 2245 6MAY2010 0020 0205 0345 0520 1050 1225 1345 1515 1650 1825 2230 7MAY2011 0150 0325 0500 0640 1030 1200 1325 1455 1630 1805 1940 2215 2345 8MAY2011 0125 0310 0445 0620 1010 1145 1305 1440 1610 1745 1925 2325 ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios
Having the FT-847 since early 1998 and observing the IC-910 I would recommend both over the TS-2000 or new IC-9100 on basis of bucks spent. I realize both the 847 and 910 are out of production but good used units are available for $900. The TS-2000 birdie issue is unforgivable for the money spent (Unless you are not interested in satellites which the FT-857/897 would then be my choice). The IC-9100 is outrageously expensive and would only be a choice if you have no HF equipment. It is still too new for a complete opinion (for what you spend you could have top notch transverters and a new K3*, or buy two FT-817 with amps for a lot less). *Note: the K3 is not able to do duplex at this time, but I have an idea how it could by using the dual receiver IF. My K3 with DEMI transverter is much superior to the FT-847 on 2m, but that is only for very weak-signal applications (satellites are on the strong side of weak-signal if you get my drift), and use on HF (which is not the question that was asked). 73, Ed - KL7UW At 06:46 AM 5/3/2011, Dee wrote: Andrew, Being in this end of the hobby for many years, I have learned that sometimes the choice comes down to what you can afford. While the TS2000 is a nice radio, with the birdie problem, it leaves a question. Ihave had 2 Icom 910's for many years and even have one of them adapted with the 1.2ghz module. Both have worked flawless and have been more than adequate. The new ICOM 9100 (which you ask about) is a bit pricey for the bands provided. I have been following the production of the 9100 and it has become out of an average hams price range. While the specs are very good, you can achieve the same effect with a TS2000 - Icom 910- Yaesu 847 and even the older icom 820 (?) - Once again, I have always advised sat ops to spend the money on the antennas and coax as this is where you'll find the most advantage for your operation. Good luck and go to the AMSAT website to obtain a truck load of info pertaining to satellite station construction and operating advice. 73, Dee, NB2F NJ AMSAT Coordinator -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alvaro Gaviria Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:51 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about radios Hello all, Can someone tell what is better for satellite work, the Kenwood TS-2000X or the Icom IC- 9100 ?? Best regards Andrew HK4MKE _ http://astroretiro.260mb.com/ algavi...@une.net.co ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 == BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com EME: 50-1.1kW?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-? DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@hotmail.com == ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] AMSAT-TAPR Dayton Dinner
Just a reminder that the cutoff date for the AMSAT-TAPR dinner at Dayton is May 16th. You can register at the AMSAT website. We will NOT be selling tickets at the booth. See you soon - 73, Martha ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] SO-67
Just went over and was working beautiful as usual, the always strong signal was dying for voices of humans that were no were to be foundHo humm, you would think with the 51 down people would be all over the 67... Well I look forward to working people new and old, have not heard N8RO lately...Also hoping the 51 is ok. Do we still have Hope for the 68? Thanks to all who make it happen, US and other countries! Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] KB5WIA/P Death Valley Trip Report
Hi Everyone, The trip to Death Valley went well! We travelled from home (grid CM88 west of Sacramento) east by Lake Tahoe and then south down the east side of the Sierras. First day camping was at Eureka Dunes in northern Death Valley National Park, where I was able to make a number of satellite contacts (grid DM17). Next day we took 4-wheel-drive roads from the Eureka Valley over Steele Pass to Saline Valley, and then up the Lippincott road to Racetrack Valley. We camped out near the moving rocks of the Racetrack, and I was able to make a few more satellite contacts from there (DM16). Especially nice was a morning round-table QSO on Oscar 7 while out in the desert, we had five stations on the bird and a nice conversation! The equipment worked well -- I brought my usual satellite portable station, consisting of the pair of Yaesu FT-817ND radios, an Elk antenna, and a 7-Ah SLA battery for power. Something new that I've been doing is running the radios entirely off solar power -- I have a set of PowerFilm solar panels (20 watts total) that I use exclusively for recharging the SLA battery. I set up the solar array whenever it's convenient to top off the battery, it provides more than enough power for my intermittent satellite operation. A map of the route along with some photos of the scenery and radio equipment is at: http://kb5wia.blogspot.com 73 de Dave KB5WIA ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Sat Presentations for May 2011
Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his How to Work the FM Amateur Satellites With Your HT session at the following clubs in the month of May, 2011. ALL are welcome to attend. Attendees will be shown everything needed to work the FM ham satellites - with a re-occurring theme of, Most hams already have most of the necessary equipment ... Attendees should download the four-page tutorial beforehand at ... http://www.work-sat.com ... and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at 909-241-7666, or send email to cl...@clintbradford.com . Chattanooga Tennessee ARC, 7PM local time Thursday, May 5, 2011 American Red Cross chapter 3801 McCallie Avenue Chattanooga TN 37403 Iredell County ARS, 7PM local time May 12, 2011 Julia's Talley House Restaurant Highway 21 North Troutman NC 28166 Palos Verdes ARC, 7:30PM PDT Wednesday, May 18, 2011 Hesse Park Community Room 23901 Hawthorne Boulevard Rancho Palos Verdes CA 90275 West Coast ARC, 7PM PDT Thursday, May 19, 2011 Huntington Beach Senior Outreach Center 1718 Orange Avenue Huntington Beach CA 92648-2478 Barrow ARC, 7PM local time Tuesday, May 24, 2011 Barrow Regional Medical Center - 3rd floor conference room 316 North Broad Street Winder Georgia 30680 /end/ ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] SO-67
Another souless pass Very dissapointing. :( Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios
I can tell already this is an old thread that will go on for a while… Money is almost never “not an issue,” so fitting the radio to the user is always a matter of preferences and priorities. If you want HF + satellite in one rig, the TS-2000 and the FT-847 work, but not the IC-910. If you want 23 cm in the rig, the TS-2000 and the IC-910 work, but not the FT-847. If you want to power your preamp(s) without any external wiring, the FT-847 and IC-910 work, but not the TS-2000. If you want a built-in antenna tuner (HF), or a built-in TNC, or built-in voice recorder, then only the TS-2000 works. If you want lots of 3rd party software, then the FT-847 is your best bet. I agree with Ed, the IC-9100 seems priced outrageously for what it is—reminiscent of the IC-970H. Maybe I’ve just lost a sense for the market—look at the price of new cars! For a strictly satellite rig, an IC-821H is still a very good radio selling for half the price of a used IC-910 (and just a bit more than a FT-736—the FT-847 of a previous generation). A decade ago I bought a TS-2000 for a number of reasons, including the ability to work the HF satellites (RS-12/13 and AO-7) in one rig. I sold an FT-990 and an IC-820 and had money left over. I still consider it really good value. While I have never liked the controls as well as my Yaesu HF rig(s), I came to really appreciate the DSP functions and the CW features and had great fun with the TNC on the ISS, pacsats (especially UO-22, RIP), and APRS. I added 1.2 GHz when AO-40 was launched. I scored higher in HF contests with it than I ever had with the non-DSP Yaesu rig. I wasn’t bothered (too much) by the infamous birdie because I could tune around it with the combination of a high-gain UHF antenna and a preamp, but do consider it a fatal flaw to anyone considering the radio for use on AO-27 or SO-50 with a low-gain antenna system. I’ll end with an echo of Dee’s comment below: spend your time and money on the antennas, as almost any radio will work with a good signal. 73, Jerry, K5OE --- original message --- Having the FT-847 since early 1998 and observing the IC-910 I would recommend both over the TS-2000 or new IC-9100 on basis of bucks spent. I realize both the 847 and 910 are out of production but good used units are available for $900. The TS-2000 birdie issue is unforgivable for the money spent (Unless you are not interested in satellites which the FT-857/897 would then be my choice). The IC-9100 is outrageously expensive and would only be a choice if you have no HF equipment. It is still too new for a complete opinion (for what you spend you could have top notch transverters and a new K3*, or buy two FT-817 with amps for a lot less). *Note: the K3 is not able to do duplex at this time, but I have an idea how it could by using the dual receiver IF. My K3 with DEMI transverter is much superior to the FT-847 on 2m, but that is only for very weak-signal applications (satellites are on the strong side of weak-signal if you get my drift), and use on HF (which is not the question that was asked). 73, Ed - KL7UW At 06:46 AM 5/3/2011, Dee wrote: Andrew, Being in this end of the hobby for many years, I have learned that sometimes the choice comes down to what you can afford. While the TS2000 is a nice radio, with the birdie problem, it leaves a question. Ihave had 2 Icom 910's for many years and even have one of them adapted with the 1.2ghz module. Both have worked flawless and have been more than adequate. The new ICOM 9100 (which you ask about) is a bit pricey for the bands provided. I have been following the production of the 9100 and it has become out of an average hams price range. While the specs are very good, you can achieve the same effect with a TS2000 - Icom 910- Yaesu 847 and even the older icom 820 (?) - Once again, I have always advised sat ops to spend the money on the antennas and coax as this is where you'll find the most advantage for your operation. Good luck and go to the AMSAT website to obtain a truck load of info pertaining to satellite station construction and operating advice. 73, Dee, NB2F NJ AMSAT Coordinator -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alvaro Gaviria Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:51 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about radios Hello all, Can someone tell what is better for satellite work, the Kenwood TS-2000X or the Icom IC- 9100 ?? Best regards Andrew HK4MKE ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios
The Icom 9100 isn't overpriced at all considering all it does. If all you want to use it for is the satellites, there are cheaper alternatives. However, it also does true dual receive on HF (something the Yaesu FTDX5000 and Icom 7600 don't do), it has the roofing filter options for increased HF/6m performance, plus several other nice features. If you want a good, high performing HF/VHF/UHF rig, it is a great bargain. 73s John AA5JG On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:10 PM, K5OE k...@aol.com wrote: I can tell already this is an old thread that will go on for a while… Money is almost never “not an issue,” so fitting the radio to the user is always a matter of preferences and priorities. If you want HF + satellite in one rig, the TS-2000 and the FT-847 work, but not the IC-910. If you want 23 cm in the rig, the TS-2000 and the IC-910 work, but not the FT-847. If you want to power your preamp(s) without any external wiring, the FT-847 and IC-910 work, but not the TS-2000. If you want a built-in antenna tuner (HF), or a built-in TNC, or built-in voice recorder, then only the TS-2000 works. If you want lots of 3rd party software, then the FT-847 is your best bet. I agree with Ed, the IC-9100 seems priced outrageously for what it is—reminiscent of the IC-970H. Maybe I’ve just lost a sense for the market—look at the price of new cars! For a strictly satellite rig, an IC-821H is still a very good radio selling for half the price of a used IC-910 (and just a bit more than a FT-736—the FT-847 of a previous generation). A decade ago I bought a TS-2000 for a number of reasons, including the ability to work the HF satellites (RS-12/13 and AO-7) in one rig. I sold an FT-990 and an IC-820 and had money left over. I still consider it really good value. While I have never liked the controls as well as my Yaesu HF rig(s), I came to really appreciate the DSP functions and the CW features and had great fun with the TNC on the ISS, pacsats (especially UO-22, RIP), and APRS. I added 1.2 GHz when AO-40 was launched. I scored higher in HF contests with it than I ever had with the non-DSP Yaesu rig. I wasn’t bothered (too much) by the infamous birdie because I could tune around it with the combination of a high-gain UHF antenna and a preamp, but do consider it a fatal flaw to anyone considering the radio for use on AO-27 or SO-50 with a low-gain antenna system. I’ll end with an echo of Dee’s comment below: spend your time and money on the antennas, as almost any radio will work with a good signal. 73, Jerry, K5OE --- original message --- Having the FT-847 since early 1998 and observing the IC-910 I would recommend both over the TS-2000 or new IC-9100 on basis of bucks spent. I realize both the 847 and 910 are out of production but good used units are available for $900. The TS-2000 birdie issue is unforgivable for the money spent (Unless you are not interested in satellites which the FT-857/897 would then be my choice). The IC-9100 is outrageously expensive and would only be a choice if you have no HF equipment. It is still too new for a complete opinion (for what you spend you could have top notch transverters and a new K3*, or buy two FT-817 with amps for a lot less). *Note: the K3 is not able to do duplex at this time, but I have an idea how it could by using the dual receiver IF. My K3 with DEMI transverter is much superior to the FT-847 on 2m, but that is only for very weak-signal applications (satellites are on the strong side of weak-signal if you get my drift), and use on HF (which is not the question that was asked). 73, Ed - KL7UW At 06:46 AM 5/3/2011, Dee wrote: Andrew, Being in this end of the hobby for many years, I have learned that sometimes the choice comes down to what you can afford. While the TS2000 is a nice radio, with the birdie problem, it leaves a question. Ihave had 2 Icom 910's for many years and even have one of them adapted with the 1.2ghz module. Both have worked flawless and have been more than adequate. The new ICOM 9100 (which you ask about) is a bit pricey for the bands provided. I have been following the production of the 9100 and it has become out of an average hams price range. While the specs are very good, you can achieve the same effect with a TS2000 - Icom 910- Yaesu 847 and even the older icom 820 (?) - Once again, I have always advised sat ops to spend the money on the antennas and coax as this is where you'll find the most advantage for your operation. Good luck and go to the AMSAT website to obtain a truck load of info pertaining to satellite station construction and operating advice. 73, Dee, NB2F NJ AMSAT Coordinator -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of Alvaro Gaviria Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 4:51 PM To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Question about radios Hello all, Can someone
[amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios
Sorry, in this time of my life, retired now, it is so far out of reach - Icom hasn't noticed the cheaper-work better- radios coming out of China... My set up for HF and Satellite use with my monies into antenna systems and preamps outperforms these overpriced rigs. Besides, No HEO birds in the near future and if the manufacturers don't see that on the horizon, they will leave that area void of announced moderately priced equipment for the mainstream hams. No, I think the IC-9100 is a great rig, just not affordable by Joe ham. Dee -Original Message- From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On Behalf Of John Geiger Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 2:38 PM To: K5OE Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios The Icom 9100 isn't overpriced at all considering all it does. If all you want to use it for is the satellites, there are cheaper alternatives. However, it also does true dual receive on HF (something the Yaesu FTDX5000 and Icom 7600 don't do), it has the roofing filter options for increased HF/6m performance, plus several other nice features. If you want a good, high performing HF/VHF/UHF rig, it is a great bargain. 73s John AA5JG On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 1:10 PM, K5OE k...@aol.com wrote: I can tell already this is an old thread that will go on for a while. Money is almost never not an issue, so fitting the radio to the user is always a matter of preferences and priorities. If you want HF + satellite in one rig, the TS-2000 and the FT-847 work, but not the IC-910. If you want 23 cm in the rig, the TS-2000 and the IC-910 work, but not the FT-847. If you want to power your preamp(s) without any external wiring, the FT-847 and IC-910 work, but not the TS-2000. If you want a built-in antenna tuner (HF), or a built-in TNC, or built-in voice recorder, then only the TS-2000 works. If you want lots of 3rd party software, then the FT-847 is your best bet. I agree with Ed, the IC-9100 seems priced outrageously for what it is-reminiscent of the IC-970H. Maybe I've just lost a sense for the market-look at the price of new cars! For a strictly satellite rig, an IC-821H is still a very good radio selling for half the price of a used IC-910 (and just a bit more than a FT-736-the FT-847 of a previous generation). A decade ago I bought a TS-2000 for a number of reasons, including the ability to work the HF satellites (RS-12/13 and AO-7) in one rig. I sold an FT-990 and an IC-820 and had money left over. I still consider it really good value. While I have never liked the controls as well as my Yaesu HF rig(s), I came to really appreciate the DSP functions and the CW features and had great fun with the TNC on the ISS, pacsats (especially UO-22, RIP), and APRS. I added 1.2 GHz when AO-40 was launched. I scored higher in HF contests with it than I ever had with the non-DSP Yaesu rig. I wasn't bothered (too much) by the infamous birdie because I could tune around it with the combination of a high-gain UHF antenna and a preamp, but do consider it a fatal flaw to anyone considering the radio for use on AO-27 or SO-50 with a low-gain antenna system. I'll end with an echo of Dee's comment below: spend your time and money on the antennas, as almost any radio will work with a good signal. 73, Jerry, K5OE --- original message --- Having the FT-847 since early 1998 and observing the IC-910 I would recommend both over the TS-2000 or new IC-9100 on basis of bucks spent. I realize both the 847 and 910 are out of production but good used units are available for $900. The TS-2000 birdie issue is unforgivable for the money spent (Unless you are not interested in satellites which the FT-857/897 would then be my choice). The IC-9100 is outrageously expensive and would only be a choice if you have no HF equipment. It is still too new for a complete opinion (for what you spend you could have top notch transverters and a new K3*, or buy two FT-817 with amps for a lot less). *Note: the K3 is not able to do duplex at this time, but I have an idea how it could by using the dual receiver IF. My K3 with DEMI transverter is much superior to the FT-847 on 2m, but that is only for very weak-signal applications (satellites are on the strong side of weak-signal if you get my drift), and use on HF (which is not the question that was asked). 73, Ed - KL7UW At 06:46 AM 5/3/2011, Dee wrote: Andrew, Being in this end of the hobby for many years, I have learned that sometimes the choice comes down to what you can afford. While the TS2000 is a nice radio, with the birdie problem, it leaves a question. Ihave had 2 Icom 910's for many years and even have one of them adapted with the 1.2ghz module. Both have worked flawless and have been more than adequate. The new ICOM 9100 (which you ask about) is a bit pricey for the bands provided. I have been following the
[amsat-bb] SO-67 Question
Hello, When SO-67 isn't operating in amateur mode is it on a different frequency. If so, what frequency is it and what modulation scheme is used? Dave Marthouse N2AAM dmartho...@gmail.com ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Marianas Opportunity via FO-29 and VO-52
Hello Everyone, Here is some information for those of you within LEO range of the Marianas Islands. This appeared in the DXNL 1726 - May 4, 2011 DX Newsletter ... a free and weekly service of DARC Committee DX and HF contesting (http://www.darcdxhf.de). If I waited for this week's ANS news cycle the DX opportunity would be over ... here it is in case you can use it ... KH0 - NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS, OC-086 Yoshi,JJ8DEN, appeared on the bands as KH0PR and will stay in the Coconut Village Hotel on Rota Island (OC-086) until May 8. He works in CW, RTTY and PSK on 160m-6m and via the satellites FO-29 and VO-52. QSLs via bureau or direct to JJ8DEN. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9...@amsat.org Editor, AMSAT News Service ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Marianas Opportunity via FO-29 and VO-52
Neat! As I understand it, the JA's do not use Mode B on AO-7 because of a perceived issue with the uplink being outside of the post-launch satellite bands. However, Yoshi would be legal to use Mode B on AO-7 under his KH0 call as I see it. Our FCC waiver for AO-7 Mode B is still in effect. That may give him a little more DX if he will try it. 73, Drew KO4MA On 5/3/2011 5:21 PM, JoAnne Maenpaa wrote: Hello Everyone, Here is some information for those of you within LEO range of the Marianas Islands. This appeared in the DXNL 1726 - May 4, 2011 DX Newsletter ... a free and weekly service of DARC Committee DX and HF contesting (http://www.darcdxhf.de). If I waited for this week's ANS news cycle the DX opportunity would be over ... here it is in case you can use it ... KH0 - NORTHERN MARIANA ISLANDS, OC-086 Yoshi,JJ8DEN, appeared on the bands as KH0PR and will stay in the Coconut Village Hotel on Rota Island (OC-086) until May 8. He works in CW, RTTY and PSK on 160m-6m and via the satellites FO-29 and VO-52. QSLs via bureau or direct to JJ8DEN. -- 73 de JoAnne K9JKM k9...@amsat.org Editor, AMSAT News Service ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: searching advice on low pass filter for 146 MHz
Hi Werner, HB9BNK I have seen your measurement on spectrum analyser with and without the passband cavity filter but the result is not satisfactory because you need to add a notch cavity filter tuned to suck the - 20 dBm offending POCSAG signal at 147.300 MHz By the way you can solve the problem using a less know Front End Crystal Antenna Filter The above filter is a passband filter to be placed between the antenna and the preamplifier input and it's passband is very sharp and narrow and only flat for about 30 KHz after that the responce belove and upper the passband drops down for about -60 to -70 dB For example you can order a passband from 145.925 to 145.955 MHz or from 145.955 to 145.975 MHz to work OSCAR-7 You can install the filter inside the SSB Electronics preamplifier between the input coax relay and the gate of the GaAsFET and this allow you to transmit in 2 meters because on transmit the crystal filter is swithed OFF from the TX line. Alternatively you can place the crystal filter at the antenna but outside the preamplifier on a PCB into a separate box with two coax relays in order to switch OFF the filter with the purpose to transmit and to receive the full 2 meters band. There are many manufacturers as you can see on Google searching with Front End Crystal Antenna Filters but they must be ordered on request and specifications of the customer and I believe that it is a difficult task to get only one prototype. In your situation I suggest you to call by telephone Mr Barkoviak at the SSB Electronic factory because he know many crystal manufacturers in Germany and I am sure he can order the filter for you under your specifications. I know Mr Barkoviak very well and he has ordered many not standard crystals for me to be used into my SSB Electronics converters and transverters. In additions I am confident that Mr Barkoviac will be interested to know the results of your experimentation using his SSB Electronic preamplifier. Best 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Werner Kullmann, HB9BNK hb9...@uska.ch To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:10 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] searching advice on low pass filter for 146 MHz I received several suggestions, when I stated my problem lasst week. While exercising, I started to document my 'case' and now I would be glad, if you could have a look at my measurements: http://www.hb9bnk.ch/index.php?id=59L=1 and let me have your opinion ! I guess, that Domenico had the ultimate answer: two huge filters (if the problem can be solved at all) or Power-off of the preamplifier Thanks and 73 Werner, HB9BNK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios
Ed, I have not done it yet, but the parts are in the shack: I will be installing two buffer IF amps on the IC-910H. These will feed my SDR-IQ (main and sub rx) . This was my original thought. However, I also ordered a FM filter for my K3, and I will simply have the K3 monitor the IF tap of the main receiver of the IC-910H. One annoyance to me is the +/- 1 kHz RIT of the IC-910H. Not good enough when chasing some non computer assisted folks on the birds (ssb/cw). With the K3, I then would have essentially an unlimited RIT just from the tuning control. There, now that I explained it, I had better warm up the iron right? tom K8TB On 5/3/2011 11:50 AM, Edward R. Cole wrote: *Note: the K3 is not able to do duplex at this time, but I have an idea how it could by using the dual receiver IF. My K3 with DEMI transverter is much superior to the FT-847 on 2m, but that is only for very weak-signal applications (satellites are on the strong side of weak-signal if you get my drift), and use on HF (which is not the question that was asked). ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: searching advice on low pass filter for 146 MHz
Hi Werner, HB9BNK In addition to my previous message I found that KVG in Germany make Frontend crystal filters upon customer specification in the range 100 to 200 MHz. The only problem is that they are large and flat only +/- 7 KHz (14 KHz total) and the insertion loss is 7 dB http://www.kvg-gmbh.de/8.0.html?L=3 Since the gain of the SSB preamplifier is about 20 dB you can try to use the above filter for a test between the output of the SSB preamplifier and the input of tranceiver IC 910H In this configuration the gain of the preamplifier will be reduced only by the filter insertion loss of 7 dB but having available about 13 dB of preamplier gain the overall Noise Figure of the receiving system will be not deteriorated. If all goes well and the preamplifier is not overload by the POCSAG 147.300 MHz signal you can order four crystal filters to cover about 50 KHz to work OSCAR-7 By the way I believe that the above crystal filters are very costly and that two huge cavity one connected as passband filter and the other one as notch filter is less expensive for you and this is exactly what I did in my 2 meters receiver system using both cavities after a high dinamic range Norton type antenna mounted preamplifier to clean up the garbage at 145.200 MHz in my location. 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Werner Kullmann, HB9BNK hb9...@uska.ch To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:10 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] searching advice on low pass filter for 146 MHz I received several suggestions, when I stated my problem lasst week. While exercising, I started to document my 'case' and now I would be glad, if you could have a look at my measurements: http://www.hb9bnk.ch/index.php?id=59L=1 and let me have your opinion ! I guess, that Domenico had the ultimate answer: two huge filters (if the problem can be solved at all) or Power-off of the preamplifier Thanks and 73 Werner, HB9BNK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] SO67 Not Heard 0115z
I did not hear SO67 at 0115z. It was scheduled to come on at 0110z. Can anyone confirm that it was NOT on? Zack KD8KSN ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SO67 Not Heard 0115z
I also heard nothing on this pass. George, KA3HSW - Original Message From: Zachary Beougher zack.kd8...@hotmail.com To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 8:22:51 PM Subject: [amsat-bb] SO67 Not Heard 0115z I did not hear SO67 at 0115z. It was scheduled to come on at 0110z. Can anyone confirm that it was NOT on? Zack KD8KSN ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SO67 Not Heard 0115z
I'll second that. Dave - KB1PVH Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X On May 3, 2011 9:33 PM, Zachary Beougher zack.kd8...@hotmail.com wrote: I did not hear SO67 at 0115z. It was scheduled to come on at 0110z. Can anyone confirm that it was NOT on? Zack KD8KSN ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: SO67 Not Heard 0115z
On 5/3/2011 9:27 PM, George Henry wrote: I also heard nothing on this pass. George, KA3HSW I got a note from the command station that the first three passes for the 4th got missed...the following passes should be on. Sorry. 73, Drew ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios
This has been done to a certain degree by eme'rs. The K3 is a dual down-conversion radio with a 15-KHz SDR at the second IF (first IF=8.215 MHz). The K3 sub-RX is an exact duplicate of the main Rx which makes it the only commercially made radio that can be used for dual-channel phase-locked diversity reception. For satellite operation, phase locking the two receivers is not required so any of the radios that have dual receivers could potentially be used on satellite. However, not all can operate in duplex mode. The Flex-5000 is available with a dual-Rx and cost about the same as the K3 dual-Rx. Both require VHF and UHF transverters. I'm not sure the Flex can operate in duplex mode. I have an idea for using the sub-RX in the K3 with a LP-Pan (or other SDR) to accomplish duplex operation (will require new firmware, at least). But that is the nicety of SDR's: you can redesign them in sw and get a new radio. There will be a batch of new dual-RX SDR's showing up in the coming year. One offering dual-Rx for 144/432/1296 has just been offered by HB9DRI targeting the eme market. Can it operate crossband and duplex? 73, Ed- KL7UW At 03:06 PM 5/3/2011, nh6vb Scheller wrote: Ed, et al, It would be interesting to include the new generation SDR's, (FLEX RADIO's,) in comparison to the radio's mentioned. Just a thought. Commends anyone? Peter, NH6VB Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:17:57 -0800 To: k...@aol.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org From: kl...@acsalaska.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios Jerry provides a more complete review and more depth (based on his having experience with more satellite capable radios). I should have mentioned the FT-837R, as it was the best before the advent of the new HF-light radios. I traded all my components for the single radio concept when I bought the FT-847 (too soon after its introduction), but it has done very well. I am still flip-flopping on whether to sell the FT-847 as it is still good for satellite use (and 432-eme). But my station is building up around the Elecraft K3 as core so we will see. I do question everyone's desire to have 1.2 GHz in the same box. Experienced microwavers all know that there is a lot of desirability to locate mw units near or at the antenna. This becomes a fact above 1.2 GHz where coax losses eat you up. My FT-847 operates on 2m for 1268 by using one of the (rare) DEMI 144/1268 Tx upconverters. It's not installed, at present, since repairing wind damage from last fall, I put up a reduced-saze array (still not fully functional). That unit produces 15w with about 1.5w drive on 144-MHz. It was produced for a short time during AO-40, and sales ended with AO-40's demise. I installed it on the elevation crossboom with 7-8 foot of LDF4-50 (1/2-inch) hardline to the loop-yagi. Today, one would have to purchase from db6nt (Kuhne Engineering) at higher cost (I think there might be a couple other sources for such a critter). So that gives the Icom and Kenwood radios an advantage (of sorts). But to get any reasonable RF to the antenna you will be running hardline, and if used for 1296, a remote preamp. Well, for satellites you should have remote preamps, anyway (this last advice is not directed to the hand-waving Arrow/HT crowd). There debate will continue as long as hams have radios ;-) Ed - KL7UW At 10:10 AM 5/3/2011, K5OE wrote: I can tell already this is an old thread that will go on for a while Money is almost never ânot an issue,ââ so fitting the radio to the user is always a matter of preferences and priorities. If you want HF + satellite in one rig, the TS-2000 and the FT-847 work, but not the IC-910. If you want 23 cm in the rig, the TS-2000 and the IC-910 work, but not the FT-847. If you want to power your preamp(s) without any external wiring, the FT-847 and IC-910 work, but not the TS-2000. If you want a built-in antenna tuner (HF), or a built-in TNC, or built-in voice recorder, then only the TS-2000 works. If you want lots of 3rd party software, then the FT-847 is your best bet. I agree with Ed, the IC-9100 seems priced outrageously for what it isreminiscent of the IC-970H. Maybe Iâve just lost a sense for the marketlook at the priice of new cars! For a strictly satellite rig, an IC-821H is still a very good radio selling for half the price of a used IC-910 (and just a bit more than a FT-736the FFT-847 of a previous generation). A decade ago I bought a TS-2000 for a number of reasons, including the ability to work the HF satellites (RS-12/13 and AO-7) in one rig. I sold an FT-990 and an IC-820 and had money left over. I still consider it really good value. While I have never liked the controls as well as my Yaesu HF rig(s), I came to really appreciate the DSP functions and the CW features and had great fun with the TNC on the ISS, pacsats
[amsat-bb] Re: SO-67
I'll try to work the 2045Z pass this evening from DN40. Brandon K7BBR Another souless pass Very dissapointing. :( Kevin KF7MYK ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios
Ed, et al, It would be interesting to include the new generation SDR's, (FLEX RADIO's,) in comparison to the radio's mentioned. Just a thought. Commends anyone? Peter, NH6VB Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 11:17:57 -0800 To: k...@aol.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org From: kl...@acsalaska.net Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Question about radios Jerry provides a more complete review and more depth (based on his having experience with more satellite capable radios). I should have mentioned the FT-837R, as it was the best before the advent of the new HF-light radios. I traded all my components for the single radio concept when I bought the FT-847 (too soon after its introduction), but it has done very well. I am still flip-flopping on whether to sell the FT-847 as it is still good for satellite use (and 432-eme). But my station is building up around the Elecraft K3 as core so we will see. I do question everyone's desire to have 1.2 GHz in the same box. Experienced microwavers all know that there is a lot of desirability to locate mw units near or at the antenna. This becomes a fact above 1.2 GHz where coax losses eat you up. My FT-847 operates on 2m for 1268 by using one of the (rare) DEMI 144/1268 Tx upconverters. It's not installed, at present, since repairing wind damage from last fall, I put up a reduced-saze array (still not fully functional). That unit produces 15w with about 1.5w drive on 144-MHz. It was produced for a short time during AO-40, and sales ended with AO-40's demise. I installed it on the elevation crossboom with 7-8 foot of LDF4-50 (1/2-inch) hardline to the loop-yagi. Today, one would have to purchase from db6nt (Kuhne Engineering) at higher cost (I think there might be a couple other sources for such a critter). So that gives the Icom and Kenwood radios an advantage (of sorts). But to get any reasonable RF to the antenna you will be running hardline, and if used for 1296, a remote preamp. Well, for satellites you should have remote preamps, anyway (this last advice is not directed to the hand-waving Arrow/HT crowd). There debate will continue as long as hams have radios ;-) Ed - KL7UW At 10:10 AM 5/3/2011, K5OE wrote: I can tell already this is an old thread that will go on for a while… Money is almost never “not an issue,ââ€� so fitting the radio to the user is always a matter of preferences and priorities. If you want HF + satellite in one rig, the TS-2000 and the FT-847 work, but not the IC-910. If you want 23 cm in the rig, the TS-2000 and the IC-910 work, but not the FT-847. If you want to power your preamp(s) without any external wiring, the FT-847 and IC-910 work, but not the TS-2000. If you want a built-in antenna tuner (HF), or a built-in TNC, or built-in voice recorder, then only the TS-2000 works. If you want lots of 3rd party software, then the FT-847 is your best bet. I agree with Ed, the IC-9100 seems priced outrageously for what it is—reminiscent of the IC-970H. Maybe I’ve just lost a sense for the market—look at the priice of new cars! For a strictly satellite rig, an IC-821H is still a very good radio selling for half the price of a used IC-910 (and just a bit more than a FT-736—the FFT-847 of a previous generation). A decade ago I bought a TS-2000 for a number of reasons, including the ability to work the HF satellites (RS-12/13 and AO-7) in one rig. I sold an FT-990 and an IC-820 and had money left over. I still consider it really good value. While I have never liked the controls as well as my Yaesu HF rig(s), I came to really appreciate the DSP functions and the CW features and had great fun with the TNC on the ISS, pacsats (especially UO-22, RIP), and APRS. I added 1.2 GHz when AO-40 was launched. I scored higher in HF contests with it than I ever had with the non-DSP Yaesu rig. I wasn’t bothered (too much) by the infamous birdie because I could tune around it with the combination of a high-gain UHF antenna and a preamp, but do consider it a fatal flaw to anyone considering the radio for use on AO-27 or SO-50 with a low-gain antenna system. I’ll end with an echo of Dee’s comment below: spend your time and money on the antennas, as almost any radio will work with a good signal. 73, Jerry, K5OE --- original message --- Having the FT-847 since early 1998 and observing the IC-910 I would recommend both over the TS-2000 or new IC-9100 on basis of bucks spent. I realize both the 847 and 910 are out of production but good used units are available for $900. The TS-2000 birdie issue is unforgivable for the money spent (Unless you are not interested in satellites which the FT-857/897 would then be my choice). The IC-9100 is outrageously expensive and would only be a choice if you have no HF equipment. It is still too new for a complete opinion (for what you spend you could have top
[amsat-bb] Re: We Have a WINNER!
Hi Clint , K6LCS Since you have received three email replies including my replay can you publish the replies of the other two non winners ? Just for curiosity because in a email to you I recognized from left to right the wife of Ron G3AAJ, in the center Martha Saragovitz, and on right Ron Broadbent G3AAJ So I believe it would be very nice to know the call letter of the second non winner and of the third non winner Tanks 73 de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com To: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 5:30 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] We Have a WINNER! We have a WINNER in the Who ARE These Folks? contest! Photo at ... http://tinyurl.com/K6LCS-CONTEST Although his answers spanned across three email replies, my attorney (I DO live in California, after all ... (grin)) has declared GRAHAM VK5AGR the WINNER of this contest! US$100 has been donated to AMSAT-NA - Thank you, Graham! Oh, the answers! From right to left, we have the first ARISS supporter from England and 61-year member of the RSGB, Ron Broadbent G3AAJ (SK). In the middle - behind those Foster Grants - is our very own Martha Saragovitz. And that is Ron’s wife, Beryl, on the left. The photo was taken in the 1Q of 1980 ... which means Martha was about 12 when it was taken ... Clint, K6LCS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Winner!
... Since you have received three email replies including my replay can you publish the replies of the other two non winners ? I am sorry - I thought I stated it better than that. I received MANY replies. But it was all the info from Graham - in HIS three email messages - that fulfilled the info requested! Graham Msg One -April 26, 2011 11:32:44 PM PDT - Names OK ... Graham Msg Two - April 26, 2011 11:42:47 PM PDT - chit chat ... Graham Msg Three - April 26, 2011 11:45:20 PM PDT ... Date added - complete, correct answers! Colin VK5HI - April 27, 2011 12:32:35 AM PDT - identifying Ron only. Perry WB8OTH - April 27, 2011 5:30:30 AM PDT - identifying Martha only Larry K8MU - April 27, 2011 9:24:22 AM PDT - ID'd 'em all - but with a long, long time ago ... as the date (grin) Domenico I8CVS -April 27, 2011 11:09:38 AM PDT - Got Martha correctly, no date Domenico I8CVS - April 27, 2011 11:09:44 AM PDT - ID'd all three - no date Zack KD8KSN - April 27, 2011 11:53:12 AM PDT - 1950-60's ... one of the ladies is Martha ... Martha - April 27, 2011 12:17:35PM PDT - Clint, of course I know - but my lips are sealed! Domenico I8CVS - April 27, 2011 12:40:02 PM PDT - adds the date - ... 1975 to 1980 ... ... and several more replies. THANK YOU ALL for your support. This was fun! Clint, K6LCS ___ Sent via AMSAT-BB@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
