[amsat-bb] Pasadena (CA) Radio Club

2011-06-29 Thread Clint Bradford
Just returned home from giving my How to Work the FM Satellites with Your HT 
presentation  to the Pasadena Radio Club. More than fifty in attendance, with 
three first-time attending non-hams. 

What a first-class club. And what experience in that room. I always poll my 
audiences to see how long folks have been hams ... More than ten years? 
Twenty? Thirty? ...  MANY hands remained up at 30 years. Their club is 
catering to all facets of the hobby and to all age groups - from promoting Boy 
Scouts of America events to last weekend's Field Day to many other projects and 
programs and events annually.

I know of no other club in the region that can claim 50+ years of existence - 
as well as 50 years of ARRL affiliation.

The Pasadena Radio Club is definitely one to visit if you are in the San 
Gabriel Valley. Their Web site is ... http://www.qsl.net/w6ka/

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666


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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
In  Washington state, this can not happen.  See their DOL personalized 
plate section.  Anything like K6LCS K6 LCS are reserved for ham 
operator plates and will not be issued for personalized.  Other states, 
including Montana, should adopt WA DOL's method of filtering ham call 
signs.  In Montana, we have seen personalized plates containing 
combinations of letters looking exactly like ham calls--to non-hams.

Larry W7IN, Plains MT
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[amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint

2011-06-29 Thread Bob- W7LRD


I believe it was 27 not 37 8X10 glossy photo 's of the littering.  Why I 
remember that I have no idea.  They say if you can remember the 60's you really 
didn't partake! 

73 Bob W7LRD 



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To: Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net, amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:02:56 PM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint 

So did they take 37 8 by 10 color glossy photo's with circles and arrows and a 
paragraph on the back of each one describing what each one was to be used as 
eveidence against you? 

Apologies to  Arlo 
Rick 
K7TEJ 


 Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 DEE My town does NOT have 7 squad cars... 
 
 This is - by far - the funniest line I've heard in the past 24 hours, Dee! 
 
 Clint 
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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread Bob- W7LRD


My taxes helped put them there, why not!  I mean they're there anyway. 

73 Boib W7LRD 



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Alexander Sack pisym...@gmail.com 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 7:49:07 PM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened? 

- Original Message - 
From: Alexander Sack pisym...@gmail.com 
To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 1:08 PM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened? 

 So I think everyone read the announcement ARRL made before FD.  Now 
 that FD weekend is at an end, can someone explain to me why NASA 
 couldn't let the astronauts have 10 minutes on the radio for one pass? 
  I mean were they having issues with the radio itself? 
 
 -aps (KC2ZSX) 
 

Hi Alexander, KC2ZSX 

Have you never make a calculation or an estimation on how it costs a 10 
minutes of an astronaut activity all costs including on board of the ISS ? 

Why NASA should vaste money for how silly she is a FD weekend radio 
activity playing with us from the ISS ? 

The astronauts are already tired with the same questions infinitely repeated 
with the ISS contacts with the schools and NASA is a very serious space 
organization. 

73 de 

i8CVS Domenico 

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[amsat-bb] Re: Satpc32 error

2011-06-29 Thread Erich Eichmann
Hello Mike,
below section 5 k of the FAQs file, that explains the error and how to fix
it.
The FAQs file comes with the program and can be downloaded from my website,
English page Downloads.
73s, Erich, DK1TB

k. Ole error 8004503A..
The SatPC32 voice feature requires the Microsoft Speech SDK (SAPI 5.1) to be
installed on the PC. If it is missing you will get the aforementioned error
message.  The software can be downloaded for free from the Microsoft web
site:
http://www.microsoft.com/reader/developers/downloads/tts.mspx
See also:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5e86ec97-40a7-453f-b0ee-6583171b4530DisplayLang=en


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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 5:41 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satpc32 error


I have an error on satpc32 and was wondering could help me with it. The
 error is OLE FEHLER 80120088. Any help would be appreciated!

 Thank you in advance



   Mike   N8GBU



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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread KM9U


 So I think everyone read the announcement ARRL made before FD.  Now
 that FD weekend is at an end, can someone explain to me why NASA
 couldn't let the astronauts have 10 minutes on the radio for one pass?
  I mean were they having issues with the radio itself?

During Expedition 24/25, Col. Wheelock made many contacts from the ISS  in 
the evenings and on weekends during his free time. This was not because he 
was scheduled to be the radio, but rather because he enjoyed doing it.
I don't believe we can blame NASA for the current crew members obvious lack 
of interest in Amateur Radio. Had Col. Wheelock (or someone as enthustiastic 
as he) been aboard the ISS on FD, NA1SS would likely not have been silent.

 Have you never make a calculation or an estimation on how it costs a 10
 minutes of an astronaut activity all costs including on board of the ISS ?

This brings up an interesting thought. The astronauts receive monetary 
compensation for performing their duties while employed by NASA. So, if 
their employer schedules them to operate amateur radio as part of their job 
assignment, would this not violate Part 97.113 (Prohibited transmissions) 
which specifically prohibits Communications in which the station licensee 
or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on 
behalf of an employer.
Now, DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! It is just a question.

Chuck, KM9U

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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread H. Vordenbaum
In Texas we have Radio Plates.  I heard that you can have the same call 
sign on multiple vehicles, so I imagine you could have the same sort of 
problem if at first glance the vehicle didn't match.
Harvey, K5HV
Kerrville, TX

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From: Larry Gerhardstein gerhardst...@montana.com
To: Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com
Cc: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:24 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!


 In  Washington state, this can not happen.  See their DOL personalized
 plate section.  Anything like K6LCS K6 LCS are reserved for ham
 operator plates and will not be issued for personalized.  Other states,
 including Montana, should adopt WA DOL's method of filtering ham call
 signs.  In Montana, we have seen personalized plates containing
 combinations of letters looking exactly like ham calls--to non-hams.

 Larry W7IN, Plains MT
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread George and Cheryl Abbott
Why do you think that this is such a big deal?Sounds similar to the old 
timers complaining about the granting of voice privileges for novices back 
in the 80's.Get a life!

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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 8:37 AM
To: gerhardst...@montana.com ; Clint Bradford
Cc: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

In Texas we have Radio Plates.  I heard that you can have the same call
sign on multiple vehicles, so I imagine you could have the same sort of
problem if at first glance the vehicle didn't match.
Harvey, K5HV
Kerrville, TX

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From: Larry Gerhardstein gerhardst...@montana.com
To: Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com
Cc: AMSAT BB amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:24 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!


 In  Washington state, this can not happen.  See their DOL personalized
 plate section.  Anything like K6LCS K6 LCS are reserved for ham
 operator plates and will not be issued for personalized.  Other states,
 including Montana, should adopt WA DOL's method of filtering ham call
 signs.  In Montana, we have seen personalized plates containing
 combinations of letters looking exactly like ham calls--to non-hams.

 Larry W7IN, Plains MT
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[amsat-bb] Re: Amsat Facebook

2011-06-29 Thread Michael Schulz
On 6/29/2011 5:14 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
 Very happy to see AMSAT on Facebook. I sent in a request to join.
 What would brighten my day even more is a threaded discussion group.
 I am sure most of us have used a Yahoo group. It is nice to be able to
 group postings by subject. It is also helpful to be able to search.
What's wrong with using a mail client that can exactly do that? Also 
just archive the postings
to the mailing list and voila instant search on your desktop even 
without Internet access if you
store local instead of on your mail server.
By moving all that to Facebook you would force people to sign up and use 
a platform they may
not agree with instead of keeping it open. Facebook is a closed system 
where nothing gets out.
Forget searching Google for something AMSAT related and finding it on 
Facebook.
Modern mail clients can already accomplish all you're asking for without 
change in infrastructure
and also without giving up the open nature of standards based 
communication.

Just my $0.02

Mike K5TRI


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[amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint

2011-06-29 Thread Joe
Love it Alice's Restaurant!  Radio stations still play this near 
thanksgiving he he he..

Joe WB9SBD

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On 6/28/2011 7:02 PM, saguaroas...@cox.net wrote:
 So did they take 37 8 by 10 color glossy photo's with circles and arrows and 
 a paragraph on the back of each one describing what each one was to be used 
 as eveidence against you?

 Apologies to  Arlo
 Rick
 K7TEJ


  Clint Bradfordclintbra...@earthlink.net  wrote:
 DEE  My town does NOT have 7 squad cars...

 This is - by far - the funniest line I've heard in the past 24 hours, Dee!

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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread charlie Cantrill
Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?
This brings up an interesting thought. The astronauts receive monetary 
compensation for performing their duties while employed by NASA. So, if 
their employer schedules them to operate amateur radio as part of their job 
assignment, would this not violate Part 97.113 (Prohibited transmissions) 
which specifically prohibits Communications in which the station licensee 
or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on 
behalf of an employer.
Now, DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! It is just a question.

Chuck, KM9USec. 97.113  Prohibited transmissions.(iii) A control operator may 
accept compensation as an incident of a teaching position during periods of 
time when an amateur station is used by that teacher as a part of classroom 
instruction at an educational institution.The Astronauts are teaching from 
space, not making general
contacts to the Ham community. If they do make general contacts, great! If they
don't, it’s not their job. If anyone really wants to talk to an astronaut in
space, volunteer your time and talent for an ARISS contact. You won't regret
it. That's what the ARISS program is for, teaching from space. If ever I get
down and frustrated as a teacher, all I have to do is watch video, pictures,
and turn that time on in my mind, it makes it all worth it. We felt like rock 
stars
and the kids loved us!
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/research/experiments/ARISS.html
Charlie CantrillKI4RDTInstructor Nelson County Area Technology Center

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[amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint

2011-06-29 Thread Joe
It wasn't a truck is was a red vw microbus.

Joe WB9SBD

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On 6/28/2011 7:23 PM, Ted wrote:
 No, but they took his truck to the dump...another case of blind justice..
 (further apologies to Arlo)

 Ted K7TRK

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 Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:03 PM
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 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint

 So did they take 37 8 by 10 color glossy photo's with circles and arrows and
 a paragraph on the back of each one describing what each one was to be used
 as eveidence against you?

 Apologies to  Arlo
 Rick
 K7TEJ


  Clint Bradfordclintbra...@earthlink.net  wrote:
 DEE  My town does NOT have 7 squad cars...

 This is - by far - the funniest line I've heard in the past 24 hours, Dee!

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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread Alexander Sack
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 AM, KM9U arsk...@gmail.com wrote:


 So I think everyone read the announcement ARRL made before FD.  Now
 that FD weekend is at an end, can someone explain to me why NASA
 couldn't let the astronauts have 10 minutes on the radio for one pass?
  I mean were they having issues with the radio itself?

 During Expedition 24/25, Col. Wheelock made many contacts from the ISS  in
 the evenings and on weekends during his free time. This was not because he
 was scheduled to be the radio, but rather because he enjoyed doing it.
 I don't believe we can blame NASA for the current crew members obvious lack
 of interest in Amateur Radio. Had Col. Wheelock (or someone as enthustiastic
 as he) been aboard the ISS on FD, NA1SS would likely not have been silent.

 Have you never make a calculation or an estimation on how it costs a 10
 minutes of an astronaut activity all costs including on board of the ISS ?

I don't buy it.

What I do believe is the current crew isn't that interested in making
contacts with amateur radio operators.  That's fine.  Operating the
radio outside the educational outreach program is ertainly not part of
their mission.  I will just have to be more patient and hope someone
gets the ham bug up there during some mission and starts to make
contacts.  I can wait.

I DO want to state again I think it behooves NASA and the whole space
program to try to get someone on that radio like a Col Wheelock
(doesn't have to be as frequent as Col Wheelock) to generate the
enthusiasm and excitement for the ISS and the whole space program
among hams.  My 2 cents.

 This brings up an interesting thought. The astronauts receive monetary
 compensation for performing their duties while employed by NASA. So, if
 their employer schedules them to operate amateur radio as part of their job
 assignment, would this not violate Part 97.113 (Prohibited transmissions)
 which specifically prohibits Communications in which the station licensee
 or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on
 behalf of an employer.
 Now, DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! It is just a question.


There is no pecuniary interest involved as I see it.

-aps (KC2ZSX)

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[amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint

2011-06-29 Thread saguaroastro
With Shovels and rakes and implements of destruction!

Rick
K7TEJ

 Joe n...@mwt.net wrote: 
 It wasn't a truck is was a red vw microbus.
 
 Joe WB9SBD
 
 The Original Rolling Ball Clock
 Idle Tyme
 Idle-Tyme.com
 http://www.idle-tyme.com
 
 On 6/28/2011 7:23 PM, Ted wrote:
  No, but they took his truck to the dump...another case of blind justice..
  (further apologies to Arlo)
 
  Ted K7TRK
 
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  Behalf Of saguaroas...@cox.net
  Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:03 PM
  To: Clint Bradford; amsat-bb@amsat.org
  Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint
 
  So did they take 37 8 by 10 color glossy photo's with circles and arrows and
  a paragraph on the back of each one describing what each one was to be used
  as eveidence against you?
 
  Apologies to  Arlo
  Rick
  K7TEJ
 
 
   Clint Bradfordclintbra...@earthlink.net  wrote:
  DEE  My town does NOT have 7 squad cars...
 
  This is - by far - the funniest line I've heard in the past 24 hours, Dee!
 
  Clint
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Joe
Wisconsin is the same way.

I can have WB9SBD on my motorcycle,  car,  truck, van, as many vehicles 
as i want to have it on.  thats gotta be a mess on their computers when 
they run a plate I would think.  never had it happen,  but wonder what 
does happen say if someone did have it on like all the above.

Joe WB9SBD

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On 6/29/2011 7:37 AM, H. Vordenbaum wrote:
 In Texas we have Radio Plates.  I heard that you can have the same call
 sign on multiple vehicles, so I imagine you could have the same sort of
 problem if at first glance the vehicle didn't match.
 Harvey, K5HV
 Kerrville, TX

 - Original Message -
 From: Larry Gerhardsteingerhardst...@montana.com
 To: Clint Bradfordclintbradf...@mac.com
 Cc: AMSAT BBamsat-bb@amsat.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:24 AM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!


 In  Washington state, this can not happen.  See their DOL personalized
 plate section.  Anything like K6LCS K6 LCS are reserved for ham
 operator plates and will not be issued for personalized.  Other states,
 including Montana, should adopt WA DOL's method of filtering ham call
 signs.  In Montana, we have seen personalized plates containing
 combinations of letters looking exactly like ham calls--to non-hams.

 Larry W7IN, Plains MT
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Dee
IN NJ, we have a small dash # next to the calls indicating the plate #  IE
NB2F   -2(in small #'s)
Then they arrest you...HA!  Joking...

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Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:10 AM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

Wisconsin is the same way.

I can have WB9SBD on my motorcycle,  car,  truck, van, as many vehicles as i
want to have it on.  thats gotta be a mess on their computers when they run
a plate I would think.  never had it happen,  but wonder what does happen
say if someone did have it on like all the above.

Joe WB9SBD

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
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http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 6/29/2011 7:37 AM, H. Vordenbaum wrote:
 In Texas we have Radio Plates.  I heard that you can have the same 
 call sign on multiple vehicles, so I imagine you could have the same 
 sort of problem if at first glance the vehicle didn't match.
 Harvey, K5HV
 Kerrville, TX

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 From: Larry Gerhardsteingerhardst...@montana.com
 To: Clint Bradfordclintbradf...@mac.com
 Cc: AMSAT BBamsat-bb@amsat.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:24 AM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!


 In  Washington state, this can not happen.  See their DOL 
 personalized plate section.  Anything like K6LCS K6 LCS are 
 reserved for ham operator plates and will not be issued for 
 personalized.  Other states, including Montana, should adopt WA DOL's 
 method of filtering ham call signs.  In Montana, we have seen 
 personalized plates containing combinations of letters looking exactly
like ham calls--to non-hams.

 Larry W7IN, Plains MT
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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread Bob- W7LRD


This goes back to a comment I made earlier and was chastised for.  However if 
by some freak of nature what if there was a real ham up there.  Imagine 
chassing the ISS on 20cw on the other side of the world.  Propagation 
characteristics, beam pointing, doppler correction, what grid square are they 
over, pile ups, etc, the head explodes! 

73 Bob W7LRD 



- Original Message -


From: Alexander Sack pisym...@gmail.com 
To: KM9U arsk...@gmail.com 
Cc: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:57:53 AM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened? 

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 AM, KM9U arsk...@gmail.com wrote: 
 
 
 So I think everyone read the announcement ARRL made before FD.  Now 
 that FD weekend is at an end, can someone explain to me why NASA 
 couldn't let the astronauts have 10 minutes on the radio for one pass? 
  I mean were they having issues with the radio itself? 
 
 During Expedition 24/25, Col. Wheelock made many contacts from the ISS  in 
 the evenings and on weekends during his free time. This was not because he 
 was scheduled to be the radio, but rather because he enjoyed doing it. 
 I don't believe we can blame NASA for the current crew members obvious lack 
 of interest in Amateur Radio. Had Col. Wheelock (or someone as enthustiastic 
 as he) been aboard the ISS on FD, NA1SS would likely not have been silent. 
 
 Have you never make a calculation or an estimation on how it costs a 10 
 minutes of an astronaut activity all costs including on board of the ISS ? 

I don't buy it. 

What I do believe is the current crew isn't that interested in making 
contacts with amateur radio operators.  That's fine.  Operating the 
radio outside the educational outreach program is ertainly not part of 
their mission.  I will just have to be more patient and hope someone 
gets the ham bug up there during some mission and starts to make 
contacts.  I can wait. 

I DO want to state again I think it behooves NASA and the whole space 
program to try to get someone on that radio like a Col Wheelock 
(doesn't have to be as frequent as Col Wheelock) to generate the 
enthusiasm and excitement for the ISS and the whole space program 
among hams.  My 2 cents. 

 This brings up an interesting thought. The astronauts receive monetary 
 compensation for performing their duties while employed by NASA. So, if 
 their employer schedules them to operate amateur radio as part of their job 
 assignment, would this not violate Part 97.113 (Prohibited transmissions) 
 which specifically prohibits Communications in which the station licensee 
 or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on 
 behalf of an employer. 
 Now, DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! It is just a question. 
 

There is no pecuniary interest involved as I see it. 

-aps (KC2ZSX) 

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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
George and Cheryl,

So who is complaining?  You?  Harvey and I signed using our call signs.  
I've never complained about hams getting more privileges, voice, WARC 
bands, digital modes, LF, etc.  Leaves more energy to be concerned about 
hams possibly loosing privileges.

73, Larry W7IN (57 years a ham op.)

On 6/29/2011 7:04 AM, George and Cheryl Abbott wrote:
 Why do you think that this is such a big deal?Sounds similar to the 
 old timers complaining about the granting of voice privileges for 
 novices back in the 80's.Get a life!

 -Original Message- From: H. Vordenbaum

 Harvey, K5HV
 Kerrville, TX


 Larry W7IN, Plains MT


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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
Who cares?  In the following scenario, I would care!  If I had the call 
sign N1OCL and I moved from Connecticut (or where ever) to Montana and 
then tried to get a ham plate for my vehicle, I would care.  I believe 
my application would be turned down by the Montana DOL, because the 
Montana license plate number N1OCL already belongs to someone else, a 
non-ham.  We know the problem exists for this call.  I've heard it also 
exists for others as well.  We suspect N1OCL is someone's airplane 
registration number and the guy got it as a personalized plate number.  
It perhaps is legal in Montana, but I still would be ticked off and yes, 
I would care.  Like I said in my first response to this thread.  This 
could NOT happen Washington state--see earlier post.

73, Larry W7IN

On 6/29/2011 10:26 AM, George and Cheryl Abbott wrote:
 The discussion thread appeared concern opposition to personalized 
 license tags resembling ham plates ,or legitimate ham plates being 
 used on multiple vehicles.Who cares!.

 Thanks for your efforts to preserve our bandwidths! I really need to 
 get back on the air.I'm still grieving the loss of AO13 and AO40.

 Regards, George W1GMA

 -Original Message- From: Larry Gerhardstein
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:02 PM
 To: George and Cheryl Abbott
 Cc: H. Vordenbaum ; Clint Bradford ; AMSAT BB
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

 George and Cheryl,

 So who is complaining?  You?  Harvey and I signed using our call signs.
 I've never complained about hams getting more privileges, voice, WARC
 bands, digital modes, LF, etc.  Leaves more energy to be concerned about
 hams possibly loosing privileges.

 73, Larry W7IN (57 years a ham op.)

 On 6/29/2011 7:04 AM, George and Cheryl Abbott wrote:
 Why do you think that this is such a big deal?Sounds similar to the 
 old timers complaining about the granting of voice privileges for 
 novices back in the 80's.Get a life!

 -Original Message- From: H. Vordenbaum

 Harvey, K5HV
 Kerrville, TX


 Larry W7IN, Plains MT




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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread George and Cheryl Abbott
If you make too big of an issue out of this motor vehicle divisions around 
the country may begin to treat radio operator pates as vanity plates and 
charge accordingly.I would care about being charged an additional fee by the 
DVR!

-Original Message- 
From: Larry Gerhardstein
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:02 PM
To: George and Cheryl Abbott
Cc: H. Vordenbaum ; Clint Bradford ; AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

George and Cheryl,

So who is complaining?  You?  Harvey and I signed using our call signs.
I've never complained about hams getting more privileges, voice, WARC
bands, digital modes, LF, etc.  Leaves more energy to be concerned about
hams possibly loosing privileges.

73, Larry W7IN (57 years a ham op.)

On 6/29/2011 7:04 AM, George and Cheryl Abbott wrote:
 Why do you think that this is such a big deal?Sounds similar to the old 
 timers complaining about the granting of voice privileges for novices back 
 in the 80's.Get a life!

 -Original Message- From: H. Vordenbaum

 Harvey, K5HV
 Kerrville, TX


 Larry W7IN, Plains MT
 

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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread w4upd
This is already the case in Florida. The Amateur tag is listed as a 
vanity plate and you are charged accordingly. This state has hundreds of 
vanity plates.

Reid, W4UPD


On 6/29/2011 1:44 PM, George and Cheryl Abbott wrote:
 If you make too big of an issue out of this motor vehicle divisions around
 the country may begin to treat radio operator pates as vanity plates and
 charge accordingly.I would care about being charged an additional fee by the
 DVR!

 -Original Message-
 From: Larry Gerhardstein
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:02 PM
 To: George and Cheryl Abbott
 Cc: H. Vordenbaum ; Clint Bradford ; AMSAT BB
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

 George and Cheryl,

 So who is complaining?  You?  Harvey and I signed using our call signs.
 I've never complained about hams getting more privileges, voice, WARC
 bands, digital modes, LF, etc.  Leaves more energy to be concerned about
 hams possibly loosing privileges.

 73, Larry W7IN (57 years a ham op.)

 On 6/29/2011 7:04 AM, George and Cheryl Abbott wrote:
 Why do you think that this is such a big deal?Sounds similar to the old
 timers complaining about the granting of voice privileges for novices back
 in the 80's.Get a life!

 -Original Message- From: H. Vordenbaum

 Harvey, K5HV
 Kerrville, TX

 Larry W7IN, Plains MT
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Clint Bradford
 ... If you make too big of an issue out of this motor vehicle divisions 
 around the country 
may begin to treat radio operator pates as vanity plates and charge accordingly 
...

Originally this was almost a joke to me. But then I remember that my wife (who 
was in the 
car with me) asked me - quite seriously - Is it OK for me to reach into my 
purse ...  while 
the original officer was back in her unit on her the radio ...

And from one with experience for decades in law enforcement:

 --
 It's kind of amazing that it generally works as smoothly as it does.
 But that doesn't for one second diminish K6LCS's potentially
 life-threatening experience yesterday. His saving graces were most
 likely his own super-careful and cooperative actions in the moment, as
 well as the officers' safe handling of what, unknown to them *at the
 time*, could have been anything from a serious crime to, as it
 seemingly turned out, some sort of either system, typo, or other GIGO
 problem somewhere in the long, complex chain between Clint Bradford's
 license plate application form and the Riverside PD's dispatcher's
 screen.
 --

Yes, if I was belligerent or otherwise not 100% cooperative, weapons would have 
possibly 
been drawn. This could have been very weird, indeed.

SO - If you are going to blame me for making a big issue as I attempt to 
clean up the 
mess that California has created with plates not conforming to CLETS and NCIC 
standards 
and, as a result, you pay a little more in another state for your plates, well, 
I couldn't really 
care. It is my intention to effect change so that no one else in California 
ever has to have 
what happened to me Monday occur to them.

I think that is a responsible campaign on my part. QST magazine has picked up 
on it, 
and will publish a piece on the situation. But I have to go - RPD is on the 
phone, returning
my call ...

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666

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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Bob Martinson
And Massachusetts

QUOTE
-Original Message-
From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of w4upd
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:57 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

This is already the case in Florida. The Amateur tag is listed as a 
vanity plate and you are charged accordingly. This state has hundreds of 
vanity plates.

Reid, W4UPD

UNQUOTE

Bob, K1REM

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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Mike Blazek
Louisiana as well, both in the upcharge ($25.00) and massive number of 
vanity plates! However, you can't get your call sign on a regular 
personalized plate.

Mike, N5UKZ

On 6/29/2011 1:14 PM, Bob Martinson wrote:
 And Massachusetts

 QUOTE
 -Original Message-
 From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
 Behalf Of w4upd
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:57 PM
 To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

 This is already the case in Florida. The Amateur tag is listed as a
 vanity plate and you are charged accordingly. This state has hundreds of
 vanity plates.

 Reid, W4UPD

 UNQUOTE

 Bob, K1REM

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[amsat-bb] Re: Pasadena (CA) Radio Club

2011-06-29 Thread Clint Bradford
 ... What FM satellite really working with your HT have you presented to the 
 audience ? HIHI !

There are now two topics in my life that I hold dear and serious - (1) is not 
desiring nine cars full of armed law enforcement personnel to EVER be behind a 
fellow ham's car during a simple infraction traffic stop ever again in 
California, and (2) the statuses of the wonderful FM birds that we enjoy on a 
daily basis.

SO - My immediate reply is, I have successfully worked AO-27, SO-50, and AO-51 
SCORES of times in front of audiences at a Watt or two - LIVE and without 
failure - what's the problem?

(In all honesty - I did fail to work '50 in front of HRO San Diego one 
morning. I calculated the pass incorrectly. BUT we later worked AO-51 
successfully ... )

So 'cuse me if I feel a little defensive of my Personal Number 2 this morning. 
I have been handling calls regarding Number 1 all morning ...

Clint, K6LCS
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[amsat-bb] Re: 5A3ST fo-29

2011-06-29 Thread i8cvs
Hi Marco, IK1RAN

The call letter 5A3ST do not exist in QRZ.com

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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From: Marco ik1...@alice.it
To: Amsat - BBs amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 6:32 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] 5A3ST fo-29


 Hi All ,
 in afternoon Orbit 73414 FO-29 utc 15:49 i
 I have QSO with 5A3ST Lybia , but I'm not  sure 100%
 because is in finish orbit , and in this moment ,  , I think is very
 improbabily that station wrk satelliti

 I'd be surprised if they is probably

 I would be grateful if the CALL 5A3ST is a Log other
 station

 I  look forward to contact me

 Thank you in advance

 73
 Mark
 ik1ran

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[amsat-bb] Re: Pasadena (CA) Radio Club

2011-06-29 Thread Jeremy Widner
I would second Clint on this.  Rand KD0HKD, Eddy KY0F, and myself K0PDX have
on multiple occasions worked the FM birds in front of clubs that we where
presenting to.  As long as a pass is going overhead we try and work them.
 AO-51 being the major one.



On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Clint Bradford
clintbra...@earthlink.netwrote:

  ... What FM satellite really working with your HT have you presented to
 the audience ? HIHI !

 There are now two topics in my life that I hold dear and serious - (1) is
 not desiring nine cars full of armed law enforcement personnel to EVER be
 behind a fellow ham's car during a simple infraction traffic stop ever again
 in California, and (2) the statuses of the wonderful FM birds that we enjoy
 on a daily basis.

 SO - My immediate reply is, I have successfully worked AO-27, SO-50, and
 AO-51 SCORES of times in front of audiences at a Watt or two - LIVE and
 without failure - what's the problem?

 (In all honesty - I did fail to work '50 in front of HRO San Diego one
 morning. I calculated the pass incorrectly. BUT we later worked AO-51
 successfully ... )

 So 'cuse me if I feel a little defensive of my Personal Number 2 this
 morning. I have been handling calls regarding Number 1 all morning ...

 Clint, K6LCS
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-- 
73
Jeremy Widner
K0PDX
http://k0pdx.us
Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
http://k0gq.com/
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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread Edward R. Cole
Wasn't going to comment, but oh heck!

I think Alex has it pegged.  I see a lot of Astronauts getting their 
ham license but figure that is probably NASA encouraged mainly for 
PR purposes and secondarily for emergency comms if the main systems 
fail.  It is likely many Astronauts are not particularly interested 
in ham radio, per se.  I'll admit making your first contact with 
either the shuttle or ISS is a thrill and fun, but the opportunities 
may be not that frequent, nor should any ham expect it to be so.
-
Now on a related subject, I would really favor Amsat approaching NASA 
for the installation of a linear transponder (say Mode UV) unit to be 
attached to the exterior of ISS (with remote shut-off for ISS 
critical operations).  This may be a better option to finding/paying 
for launch opportunities for free orbiting linear-transponder 
satellites.  Since there is a regular launch schedule to resupply ISS 
and no propellant/engine would be involved it would be a benign cargo item.

I do not underestimate the difficulty quotient for such a mission, 
but we do have ham gear installed on ISS, and have done Suitsat and 
ARISSat with NASA and ISS.

If no launch is forthcoming for P3E perhaps the backup unit (sans 
propellant system and solar panels) could be considered?  It would be 
in a Leo orbit but at least it would provide a long-term alternative 
to FM Leos.

Something to chew on and consider?

73, Ed - KL7UW

At 05:57 AM 6/29/2011, Alexander Sack wrote:
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 AM, KM9U arsk...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  So I think everyone read the announcement ARRL made before FD.  Now
  that FD weekend is at an end, can someone explain to me why NASA
  couldn't let the astronauts have 10 minutes on the radio for one pass?
   I mean were they having issues with the radio itself?
 
  During Expedition 24/25, Col. Wheelock made many contacts from the ISS  in
  the evenings and on weekends during his free time. This was not because he
  was scheduled to be the radio, but rather because he enjoyed doing it.
  I don't believe we can blame NASA for the current crew members obvious lack
  of interest in Amateur Radio. Had Col. Wheelock (or someone as 
 enthustiastic
  as he) been aboard the ISS on FD, NA1SS would likely not have been silent.
 
  Have you never make a calculation or an estimation on how it costs a 10
  minutes of an astronaut activity all costs including on board of the ISS ?

I don't buy it.

What I do believe is the current crew isn't that interested in making
contacts with amateur radio operators.  That's fine.  Operating the
radio outside the educational outreach program is ertainly not part of
their mission.  I will just have to be more patient and hope someone
gets the ham bug up there during some mission and starts to make
contacts.  I can wait.

I DO want to state again I think it behooves NASA and the whole space
program to try to get someone on that radio like a Col Wheelock
(doesn't have to be as frequent as Col Wheelock) to generate the
enthusiasm and excitement for the ISS and the whole space program
among hams.  My 2 cents.

  This brings up an interesting thought. The astronauts receive monetary
  compensation for performing their duties while employed by NASA. So, if
  their employer schedules them to operate amateur radio as part of their job
  assignment, would this not violate Part 97.113 (Prohibited transmissions)
  which specifically prohibits Communications in which the station licensee
  or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on
  behalf of an employer.
  Now, DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! It is just a question.
 

There is no pecuniary interest involved as I see it.

-aps (KC2ZSX)

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[amsat-bb] Re: LoTW?

2011-06-29 Thread Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Zack,

 Anyone else having issues getting into LoTW?

Now that you mentioned it, yes - I'm not able to bring up that site.
The ARRL web site comes up as normal, but no response from
the p1k.arrl.org server used for the LOTW system.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
If you have to apply for vanity to get ham letters on your plate, then 
they're not really ham call letter plates, are they, as they are in 
Montana and Washington.  I stand on all of my prior posts on this matter.

73 es SK, Larry W7IN
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[amsat-bb] Re: 5A3ST fo-29

2011-06-29 Thread GW1FKY
Hi,
I think that the call sign has been mistaken -   It should have been 
9A3ST  an amateur station that I  have
worked or heard on a number of times on the satellites.
Trust that this will help with the enquiry.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat -UK
Amsat NA
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Edward R. Cole
Because of the very-large roll ham radio played in the aftermath of 
the 1964 Alaska Earthquake (9.2), the legislature passed a resolution 
that any ham with ham gear installed in their vehicle would not only 
get ham call plates but would be exempt from registration 
costs.  WE still pay any local personal property tax that is included 
in Alaskan auto tags.

You only get one vehicle licensed with call-sign plates.

73, Ed - KL7UW

At 09:44 AM 6/29/2011, George and Cheryl Abbott wrote:
If you make too big of an issue out of this motor vehicle divisions around
the country may begin to treat radio operator pates as vanity plates and
charge accordingly.I would care about being charged an additional fee by the
DVR!

-Original Message-
From: Larry Gerhardstein
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 12:02 PM
To: George and Cheryl Abbott
Cc: H. Vordenbaum ; Clint Bradford ; AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

George and Cheryl,

So who is complaining?  You?  Harvey and I signed using our call signs.
I've never complained about hams getting more privileges, voice, WARC
bands, digital modes, LF, etc.  Leaves more energy to be concerned about
hams possibly loosing privileges.

73, Larry W7IN (57 years a ham op.)

On 6/29/2011 7:04 AM, George and Cheryl Abbott wrote:
  Why do you think that this is such a big deal?Sounds similar to the old
  timers complaining about the granting of voice privileges for novices back
  in the 80's.Get a life!
 
  -Original Message- From: H. Vordenbaum
 
  Harvey, K5HV
  Kerrville, TX
 
 
  Larry W7IN, Plains MT
 

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73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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[amsat-bb] Fwd: Teacher Arrested-

2011-06-29 Thread wa4hfn


- Forwarded Message -
From: Richard Martin k4...@att.net
To: Rick - WA4NVM wa4...@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:20:32 PM
Subject: Teacher Arrested-




  

My teacher friends will love this one 

  




  






  




  


Levity, anyone?. 






(and particularly, anyone in possession of a slide rule (or even knows what one 
is) guaranteed to be subversive and clearly up to no good!)   




  











TEACHER ARRESTED IN NEW YORK  - A public school teacher was arrested today at 
JFK International Airport as he attempted to board a  flight while in 
possession of a ruler, a protractor, a compass,  a slide-rule and a calculator. 
  At a morning press  conference, Attorney General Eric Holder said he believes 
the  man is a member of the notorious Al-Gebra movement. 


  


He  did not identify the man, who has been charged by the FBI with  carrying 
weapons of math instruction.  'Al-Gebra is a  problem for us', the Attorney 
General said. 'They derive  solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go 
off on  tangents in search of absolute values.'  They use secret code names 
like 'X' and  'Y' and refer to themselves as 'unknowns', but we have  
determined that they belong to a common denominator of the axis  of medieval 
with coordinates in every country.  As the  Greek philanderer Isosceles used to 
say, 'There are 3 sides to  every triangle'.  

When asked to comment on the arrest,  President Obama said, 'If God had wanted 
us to have better  weapons of math instruction, he would have given us more 
fingers  and toes.'     


White House aides told reporters they  could not recall a more intelligent or 
profound statement by  President Obama -  It is believed that another Nobel 
Prize will follow--- 


  

  




  


 

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[amsat-bb] Re: LoTW?

2011-06-29 Thread Zachary Beougher
Exactly what I found... oh well.

Zack

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:16 PM 
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW? 

Zack,

 Anyone else having issues getting into LoTW?

Now that you mentioned it, yes - I'm not able to bring up that site.
The ARRL web site comes up as normal, but no response from
the p1k.arrl.org server used for the LOTW system.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 11:13:35 -0700
Clint Bradford clintbradf...@mac.com wrote:

 Originally this was almost a joke to me. But then I remember that my wife 
 (who was in the 
 car with me) asked me - quite seriously - Is it OK for me to reach into my 
 purse ...  while 
 the original officer was back in her unit on her the radio ...
 
 And from one with experience for decades in law enforcement:
 
  --
  It's kind of amazing that it generally works as smoothly as it does.
  But that doesn't for one second diminish K6LCS's potentially
  life-threatening experience yesterday. 


 Yes, if I was belligerent or otherwise not 100% cooperative, weapons would 
 have possibly 
 been drawn.

All this makes me really, really glad I live in a country where we don't have 
armed thugs on the streets.  The things that struck me most about the US were 
the armed police everywhere, metal detectors on many of the public buildings 
and the blanket CCTV coverage everywhere.  It must be horrible to live like 
that.

Gordon MM0YEQ
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[amsat-bb] Re: 5A3ST fo-29

2011-06-29 Thread Mika Siira


Alkuperäinen viesti
Lähettäjä: ik1...@alice.it
Päivämäärä: 29.06.2011 19:32
Vastaanottaja: Amsat - BBsamsat-bb@amsat.org
Aihe: [amsat-bb]  5A3ST fo-29

Hi All ,
in afternoon Orbit 73414 FO-29 utc 15:49 i
I have QSO with 5A3ST Lybia , but I'm not  sure 100%
because is in finish orbit , and in this moment ,  , I think is 
very 
improbabily that station wrk satelliti

I'd be surprised if they is probably

I would be grateful if the CALL 5A3ST is a Log other
station

I  look forward to contact me

Thank you in advance

73
Mark
ik1ran


Hello Mark  BB

Most likely the station was 9A3ST, who has recently been active on AO-7 
and FO-29 sats.

Mika, OH8MBN




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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Ted
...and Oregon (although they do not say 'ham radio', they are all a light
orange color)

TK, K7TRK

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Behalf Of Larry Gerhardstein
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:27 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

If you have to apply for vanity to get ham letters on your plate, then 
they're not really ham call letter plates, are they, as they are in 
Montana and Washington.  I stand on all of my prior posts on this matter.

73 es SK, Larry W7IN
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[amsat-bb] oops

2011-06-29 Thread wa4hfn
Sent the teacher joke here my mistake, well after the last 150  field mess  
Maybe a joke is in order
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[amsat-bb] AMSAT Board political opinion

2011-06-29 Thread Ted
Gordon, if you chose to insult the USA, this forum is not appropriate. Also,
your 'opinion' on our country is of very little interest to me. 

TK, K7TRK

Original comment:

All this makes me really, really glad I live in a country where we don't
have armed thugs on the streets.  The things that struck me most about the
US were the armed police everywhere, metal detectors on many of the public
buildings and the blanket CCTV coverage everywhere.  It must be horrible to
live like that.

Gordon MM0YEQ
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Nigel A. Gunn
Britain has more CCTV cameras per head of population than anywhere else 
in the world.
Britains airports and military establishments are crawling with armed 
police and military security staff. As long as the copper on the street 
here keeps his weapon in it's holster then it's no threat.
I can't think of anywhere in my city that had security staff or metal 
detectors.

Britain already isn't far behidg the US.

On 29/06/11 21:45, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:

 All this makes me really, really glad I live in a country where we don't have 
 armed thugs on the streets.  The things that struck me most about the US were 
 the armed police everywhere, metal detectors on many of the public buildings 
 and the blanket CCTV coverage everywhere.  It must be horrible to live like 
 that.

 Gordon MM0YEQ

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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board political opinion

2011-06-29 Thread Nigel A. Gunn
Ted.
As, for decades, the US government has seen fit to force itself upon any 
country with which it doesn't agree, anyone, anywhere has a right to an 
opinion, even if it doesn't suit you.

I don't agree with Gordon most of the time but he has a right.



On 29/06/11 22:11, Ted wrote:
   Also,your 'opinion' on our country is of very little interest to me.

 TK, K7TRK

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[amsat-bb] Re: oops

2011-06-29 Thread Edward R. Cole
At 12:58 PM 6/29/2011, wa4...@comcast.net wrote:
Sent the teacher joke here my mistake, well after the last 
150  field mess  Maybe a joke is in order
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No problem.  I have a slide-rule from my college years (1962-1968), 
and am card-carrying member of Al-Gebra (BS Math 1968)!  Good for a 
laugh, forwarded to my wife ;-)



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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread kf1buz
In nevada the plates have amature radio and your call and they are free if you 
agree to help in emergencies
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 13:48:18 
To: gerhardst...@montana.com; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

...and Oregon (although they do not say 'ham radio', they are all a light
orange color)

TK, K7TRK

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Behalf Of Larry Gerhardstein
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:27 PM
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

If you have to apply for vanity to get ham letters on your plate, then 
they're not really ham call letter plates, are they, as they are in 
Montana and Washington.  I stand on all of my prior posts on this matter.

73 es SK, Larry W7IN
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:57 AM 6/30/2011, w4upd wrote:
This is already the case in Florida. The Amateur tag is listed as a
vanity plate and you are charged accordingly. This state has hundreds of
vanity plates.

It's the same down here, amateur plates are a special category of 
vanity plates, and attract a vanity fee.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com

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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board political opinion

2011-06-29 Thread Ted
And AMSAT is not the place to debate politics. His comments were a public
insult. And THAT is my opinion. Maybe you two are too young to remember who
saved Europe's ass 5 years ago

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Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:26 PM
To: Ted
Cc: 'Gordon JC Pearce'; amsat-bb@amsat.org
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Ted.
As, for decades, the US government has seen fit to force itself upon any 
country with which it doesn't agree, anyone, anywhere has a right to an 
opinion, even if it doesn't suit you.

I don't agree with Gordon most of the time but he has a right.



On 29/06/11 22:11, Ted wrote:
   Also,your 'opinion' on our country is of very little interest to me.

 TK, K7TRK



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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Larry Gerhardstein
In Montana the ham plates are free plus a small administrative fee.  In 
1955, there was a ham in the state legislature that got the bill entered 
and passed.  He wrote the free clause into his bill, and except for an 
administrative fee added later, it has stuck.  Montana was one of the 
first few states to get ham plates.  They're still manufactured at the 
state prison in Dillon MT.

Larry W7IN

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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Joe
Ours say right across the top of the plate AMATEUR RADIO,  and they do 
charge extra for them.

ANY plate that is special order and not handed out off the top of the 
pile next in line costs extra.

Be it a vanity plate  and antiques plate  a collector plate a veterans 
plate a disabled plate  get the drift?

The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com

On 6/29/2011 3:26 PM, Larry Gerhardstein wrote:
 If you have to apply for vanity to get ham letters on your plate, then
 they're not really ham call letter plates, are they, as they are in
 Montana and Washington.  I stand on all of my prior posts on this matter.

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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board political opinion- take this somewhere else

2011-06-29 Thread jmfranke
Please take this somewhere else.

John  WA4WDL

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To: Ted k7trkra...@charter.net
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board  political opinion

 Ted.
 As, for decades, the US government has seen fit to force itself upon any
 country with which it doesn't agree, anyone, anywhere has a right to an
 opinion, even if it doesn't suit you.

 I don't agree with Gordon most of the time but he has a right.



 On 29/06/11 22:11, Ted wrote:
   Also,your 'opinion' on our country is of very little interest to me.

 TK, K7TRK

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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 22:21:29 +0100
Nigel A. Gunn ni...@ngunn.net wrote:

 Britain has more CCTV cameras per head of population than anywhere else 
 in the world.

That was actually a bit of nonsense written by one of the far-right tabloids 
(possibly the Daily Mail).  Essentially what some greasy journo did was count 
up the number of CCTV cameras in about half a mile of the main street of an 
unpleasant part of London - that includes the privately-run ones on all the 
bookies, off-licences, pubs, brothels etc - and multiplied by the total length 
of roads in the UK.  By that logic, every surfaced road would have a camera 
every 25 feet - the farm track to my house would have four!  This is plainly 
not the case.

 Britains airports and military establishments are crawling with armed 
 police and military security staff. As long as the copper on the street 

I would expect military establishments to have military security staff.  I've 
only very rarely seen armed police at any of the airports here.  You saw what 
happened to the last person who (allegedly) tried to attack an airport in 
Scotland...  Although why anyone would attempt to attack the one building in 
the surrounding hundred-mile radius with extensive CCTV coverage, an advanced 
fire-suppression system and some armed police nearby is beyond me - did they 
not think this through?

 here keeps his weapon in it's holster then it's no threat.
 I can't think of anywhere in my city that had security staff or metal 
 detectors.
 
 Britain already isn't far behidg the US.

Well, you don't get stopped by seven police cars because someone's computer has 
a typo in your registration number, that's for sure.

I have had problems with the police thinking my car is an illegal taxi.  It's a 
big silver Citroën, the fact that it's a classic doesn't seem to register with 
them.  They just see a silver Citroën, Skoda or Lexus and think it's a taxi!, 
especially if it's got a VHF whip on top.  That hasn't happened for a couple of 
years, so presumably they've learned to tell the difference now.

I *did* have a problem with the vehicle licensing - and this relates back to 
Clint's problem - with them trying to send me parking tickets and congestion 
charge tickets for my black BMW X5, down in London.  Odd that, they had the 
registration right but CGA 78X is a white Citroën CX Break and parked outside 
my house, not a black BMW X5.  I guess someone's decided to make a copy of my 
plates.  The fun bit came when they insisted on sending me a tax disc for a 
black BMW X5 and despite actually showing up at their offices with the damn car 
refusing to believe that I didn't own a BMW.

Ah, bureaucrats.  Can't live with 'em, too much paperwork if you shoot 'em...

Gordon MM0YEQ

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[amsat-bb] Re: Know Your Plates, Know Your Country

2011-06-29 Thread Clint Bradford
 ... All this makes me really, really glad I live in a country where we don't 
have armed thugs on the streets ... It must be horrible to live like that. 
Gordon MM0YEQ

I thought you lived in Scotland, Gordon. A country where the BBC reported just 
in 2008 ...

Crime in Glasgow 'worse than NY' - Glasgow could learn lessons from New York 
about 
how to tackle crime, according to a report by an independent think tank.The 
Reform 
Scotland report said there was now more violent crime per head of population in 
Glasgow 
than in New York. It said crime figures from 2006-07 showed for every 100,000 
people 
there were 731.39 incidents in Glasgow compared to 631.30 in New York. It 
suggests 
following a zero tolerance policy like the American city.

So, Gordon, to which country did you move?

You may need to change your source of news of the U.S., Gordon.

Please do not try to turn my scenario of extra law enforcement response to 
anything 
at a national level to degrade the U.S. Ain't gnna fly ... (grin)

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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[amsat-bb] Thread to END: Re: AMSAT Board political opinion

2011-06-29 Thread Gould Smith

This thread needs to end.  ADP violation emails have been issued.

73,
Gould, WA4SXM
AMSAT VP User Services
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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread John Becker
At 03:45 PM 6/29/2011, you wrote:
All this makes me really, really glad I live in a country where we don't have 
armed thugs on the streets. 

That is where you are wrong... the thugs will always be armed. when the victim
is also armed is makes it a even playing field.

When the people here also became armed street robbers went way way down.

nothing in the UK will change till they start sending the robber to jail
for life.

I for one would rather be here then in the UK where only the bad person
will armed.



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[amsat-bb] PI9CAM Saturday July 2 active on EME

2011-06-29 Thread Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR
Hello,

I forward this message from the PI9CAM team to the amsat-bb.

73 Rob PE1ITR


PI9CAM, the 25 m dish in Dwingeloo The Netherlands (JO32ET) will be active on 
EME on Saturday July 2.

Anyone with a small yagi and small power on 70 cm can have a QSO with us via 
the moon using the
digital mode JT65b.
The clock of your computer must be right within 2 or 3 seconds.
The JT65b software and user guides can be downloaded here:
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjt.html


We worked several one yagi stations with 15 or 20 elements yagi and 20 to 30 
Watts output. We know
that any oscar 10/13 class satellite station is able to work us.
So if you want to try EME, point your antenna to the moon give it a go on 
Saturday July 2  !

We are to be found between 432.050 and 432.080MHz or on the HB9Q logger for 
actual frequency info
or talkback: http://hb9q.ch/joomla/index.php

Hope to meet you “on the moon” !

73!

Jan
PA3FXB (team PI9CAM)
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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board political opinion

2011-06-29 Thread wa4hfn
All of Europe would be speaking German if we had not won the war in 1945 and 
the only ground we ever kept was to bury our fallen soldiers in Europe .I AM 
ALL AMERICAN HOME GROWN AND CORN FED BASE BALL AND APPLE PIE GOD AND COUNTRY. 
WA4HFN Damon said that

- Original Message -
From: Ted k7trkra...@charter.net
To: Nigel A. Gunn ni...@ngunn.net
Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:41:53 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board  political opinion

And AMSAT is not the place to debate politics. His comments were a public
insult. And THAT is my opinion. Maybe you two are too young to remember who
saved Europe's ass 5 years ago

-Original Message-
From: Nigel A. Gunn [mailto:ni...@ngunn.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:26 PM
To: Ted
Cc: 'Gordon JC Pearce'; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Board  political opinion

Ted.
As, for decades, the US government has seen fit to force itself upon any 
country with which it doesn't agree, anyone, anywhere has a right to an 
opinion, even if it doesn't suit you.

I don't agree with Gordon most of the time but he has a right.



On 29/06/11 22:11, Ted wrote:
   Also,your 'opinion' on our country is of very little interest to me.

 TK, K7TRK



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[amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint

2011-06-29 Thread Rick Tejera
Bob,

 

Yup, 27, fat fingers on my part. As for the 60's, I was 9 when they ended,
so I didn't have the opportunity to partake

 

Clear Skies 

Rick Tejera 
Saguaro Astronomy Club 
Phoenix, Arizona 
 http://www.saguaroastro.org/ www.saguaroastro.org 
saguaroas...@cox.net 
K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452 

  _  

From: Bob- W7LRD [mailto:w7...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 23:26
To: saguaroas...@cox.net
Cc: Clint Bradford; amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint

 

I believe it was 27 not 37 8X10 glossy photo's of the littering.  Why I
remember that I have no idea.  They say if you can remember the 60's you
really didn't partake!

73 Bob W7LRD

  _  

From: saguaroas...@cox.net
To: Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net, amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 5:02:56 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Criminal Clint

So did they take 37 8 by 10 color glossy photo's with circles and arrows and
a paragraph on the back of each one describing what each one was to be used
as eveidence against you?

Apologies to  Arlo
Rick
K7TEJ


 Clint Bradford clintbra...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 DEE My town does NOT have 7 squad cars...
 
 This is - by far - the funniest line I've heard in the past 24 hours, Dee!
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: LoTW?

2011-06-29 Thread Rick Tejera
I couldn't get in earlier as well, but it appears whatever the issue, it has
been resolved.

Clear Skies

Rick Tejera
Saguaro Astronomy Club
Phoenix, Arizona
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From: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] On
Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 13:17
To: amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LoTW?

Zack,

 Anyone else having issues getting into LoTW?

Now that you mentioned it, yes - I'm not able to bring up that site.
The ARRL web site comes up as normal, but no response from
the p1k.arrl.org server used for the LOTW system.

73!





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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board political opinion

2011-06-29 Thread Michael Schulz
Are you guys real? Is this a reality show? Someone has a rather 
interesting mishap
with the police and from that such a thread develops? Geez folks you 
really need to get
a life. I'm just returning to ham radio after 20 years of absence, that 
was not what I expected.
The last few days this mailing list was just filled with comments that 
bar absolutely every
reality. People whining that the astronauts on the ISS don't come to 
play with them. Well
guess what, they have a real job. Amateur radio it is not. The next ones 
start to bitch about
a country they don't live in which of course triggers new stuff.

I guess this is not my crowd and I better unsubscribe. There are better 
ways to waste
bandwidth.

Reality check 1 - 2 - 3

73 Michael K5TRI


On 6/29/2011 6:50 PM, wa4...@comcast.net wrote:
 All of Europe would be speaking German if we had not won the war in 1945 and 
 the only ground we ever kept was to bury our fallen soldiers in Europe .I AM 
 ALL AMERICAN HOME GROWN AND CORN FED BASE BALL AND APPLE PIE GOD AND COUNTRY. 
 WA4HFN Damon said that

 - Original Message -
 From: Tedk7trkra...@charter.net
 To: Nigel A. Gunnni...@ngunn.net
 Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org, Gordon JC Pearcegordon...@gjcp.net
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:41:53 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board  political opinion

 And AMSAT is not the place to debate politics. His comments were a public
 insult. And THAT is my opinion. Maybe you two are too young to remember who
 saved Europe's ass 5 years ago

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel A. Gunn [mailto:ni...@ngunn.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:26 PM
 To: Ted
 Cc: 'Gordon JC Pearce'; amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Board  political opinion

 Ted.
 As, for decades, the US government has seen fit to force itself upon any
 country with which it doesn't agree, anyone, anywhere has a right to an
 opinion, even if it doesn't suit you.

 I don't agree with Gordon most of the time but he has a right.



 On 29/06/11 22:11, Ted wrote:
Also,your 'opinion' on our country is of very little interest to me.

 TK, K7TRK


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[amsat-bb] Space Station close call with debris

2011-06-29 Thread charlie Cantrill
Yikes, this sorta puts things in perspective! Space station crew 
evacuatehttp://www.issfanclub.com/node/31790
Space Station's Brush with Space Junk Highlights Growing 
Threathttp://www.space.com/12107-space-junk-threat-growing-space-station.htmlCharlie
 CantrillKI4RDT

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[amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

2011-06-29 Thread Jerry
Same here in Arizona, but I don't mind paying the little extra fee.  I'm 
proud of my amateur status.  Of course, some hams are just plain cheap!
Jerry France
K7LY
Lake Havasu City, AZ

On 6/29/2011 2:49 PM, Tony Langdon wrote:
 At 03:57 AM 6/30/2011, w4upd wrote:
 This is already the case in Florida. The Amateur tag is listed as a
 vanity plate and you are charged accordingly. This state has hundreds of
 vanity plates.
 It's the same down here, amateur plates are a special category of
 vanity plates, and attract a vanity fee.

 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board political opinion

2011-06-29 Thread Jerry
Atta boy Ted!
K7LY

On 6/29/2011 2:41 PM, Ted wrote:
 And AMSAT is not the place to debate politics. His comments were a public
 insult. And THAT is my opinion. Maybe you two are too young to remember who
 saved Europe's ass 5 years ago

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel A. Gunn [mailto:ni...@ngunn.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:26 PM
 To: Ted
 Cc: 'Gordon JC Pearce'; amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Board  political opinion

 Ted.
 As, for decades, the US government has seen fit to force itself upon any
 country with which it doesn't agree, anyone, anywhere has a right to an
 opinion, even if it doesn't suit you.

 I don't agree with Gordon most of the time but he has a right.



 On 29/06/11 22:11, Ted wrote:
Also,your 'opinion' on our country is of very little interest to me.

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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread i8cvs
Hi Ed, KL7UW

I agree completely with you on a hi power continuously operating U/V
linear transponder on board of the ISS may be 100 KHz BW because it
can be used as well for emergency communications on the earth without
intervention of the astronauts.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

- Original Message -
From: Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net
To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?


 Wasn't going to comment, but oh heck!

 I think Alex has it pegged.  I see a lot of Astronauts getting their
 ham license but figure that is probably NASA encouraged mainly for
 PR purposes and secondarily for emergency comms if the main systems
 fail.  It is likely many Astronauts are not particularly interested
 in ham radio, per se.  I'll admit making your first contact with
 either the shuttle or ISS is a thrill and fun, but the opportunities
 may be not that frequent, nor should any ham expect it to be so.
 -
 Now on a related subject, I would really favor Amsat approaching NASA
 for the installation of a linear transponder (say Mode UV) unit to be
 attached to the exterior of ISS (with remote shut-off for ISS
 critical operations).  This may be a better option to finding/paying
 for launch opportunities for free orbiting linear-transponder
 satellites.  Since there is a regular launch schedule to resupply ISS
 and no propellant/engine would be involved it would be a benign cargo
item.

 I do not underestimate the difficulty quotient for such a mission,
 but we do have ham gear installed on ISS, and have done Suitsat and
 ARISSat with NASA and ISS.

 If no launch is forthcoming for P3E perhaps the backup unit (sans
 propellant system and solar panels) could be considered?  It would be
 in a Leo orbit but at least it would provide a long-term alternative
 to FM Leos.

 Something to chew on and consider?

 73, Ed - KL7UW

 At 05:57 AM 6/29/2011, Alexander Sack wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 AM, KM9U arsk...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   So I think everyone read the announcement ARRL made before FD.  Now
   that FD weekend is at an end, can someone explain to me why NASA
   couldn't let the astronauts have 10 minutes on the radio for one
pass?
I mean were they having issues with the radio itself?
  
   During Expedition 24/25, Col. Wheelock made many contacts from the ISS
in
   the evenings and on weekends during his free time. This was not
because he
   was scheduled to be the radio, but rather because he enjoyed doing
it.
   I don't believe we can blame NASA for the current crew members obvious
lack
   of interest in Amateur Radio. Had Col. Wheelock (or someone as
  enthustiastic
   as he) been aboard the ISS on FD, NA1SS would likely not have been
silent.
  
   Have you never make a calculation or an estimation on how it costs a
10
   minutes of an astronaut activity all costs including on board of the
ISS ?
 
 I don't buy it.
 
 What I do believe is the current crew isn't that interested in making
 contacts with amateur radio operators.  That's fine.  Operating the
 radio outside the educational outreach program is ertainly not part of
 their mission.  I will just have to be more patient and hope someone
 gets the ham bug up there during some mission and starts to make
 contacts.  I can wait.
 
 I DO want to state again I think it behooves NASA and the whole space
 program to try to get someone on that radio like a Col Wheelock
 (doesn't have to be as frequent as Col Wheelock) to generate the
 enthusiasm and excitement for the ISS and the whole space program
 among hams.  My 2 cents.
 
   This brings up an interesting thought. The astronauts receive monetary
   compensation for performing their duties while employed by NASA. So,
if
   their employer schedules them to operate amateur radio as part of
their job
   assignment, would this not violate Part 97.113 (Prohibited
transmissions)
   which specifically prohibits Communications in which the station
licensee
   or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications
on
   behalf of an employer.
   Now, DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! It is just a question.
  
 
 There is no pecuniary interest involved as I see it.
 
 -aps (KC2ZSX)
 
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[amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board political opinion

2011-06-29 Thread i8cvs
Hi, WA4HFN

I agree with you and what you said is why I still speak italian in my
country !

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

- Original Message -
From: wa4...@comcast.net
To: Ted k7trkra...@charter.net
Cc: AMSAT amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 1:50 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board  political opinion


 All of Europe would be speaking German if we had not won the war in 1945
and the only ground we ever kept was to bury our fallen soldiers in Europe
.I AM ALL AMERICAN HOME GROWN AND CORN FED BASE BALL AND APPLE PIE GOD AND
COUNTRY. WA4HFN Damon said that

 - Original Message -
 From: Ted k7trkra...@charter.net
 To: Nigel A. Gunn ni...@ngunn.net
 Cc: amsat-bb@amsat.org, Gordon JC Pearce gordon...@gjcp.net
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:41:53 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT Board  political opinion

 And AMSAT is not the place to debate politics. His comments were a public
 insult. And THAT is my opinion. Maybe you two are too young to remember
who
 saved Europe's ass 5 years ago

 -Original Message-
 From: Nigel A. Gunn [mailto:ni...@ngunn.net]
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 2:26 PM
 To: Ted
 Cc: 'Gordon JC Pearce'; amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT Board  political opinion

 Ted.
 As, for decades, the US government has seen fit to force itself upon any
 country with which it doesn't agree, anyone, anywhere has a right to an
 opinion, even if it doesn't suit you.

 I don't agree with Gordon most of the time but he has a right.



 On 29/06/11 22:11, Ted wrote:
Also,your 'opinion' on our country is of very little interest to me.
 
  TK, K7TRK



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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread jmfranke
I also agree. We do not require the astronauts to be in the loop. We need 
the communications port, particularly one that can be repaired or replaced 
and can be reprogrammed from Earth. The astronauts are most assuredly 
encouraged to participate. NASA can blank the output during critical times.

John WA4WDL

--
From: i8cvs domenico.i8...@tin.it
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 9:42 PM
To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org; Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

 Hi Ed, KL7UW

 I agree completely with you on a hi power continuously operating U/V
 linear transponder on board of the ISS may be 100 KHz BW because it
 can be used as well for emergency communications on the earth without
 intervention of the astronauts.

 73 de

 i8CVS Domenico

 - Original Message -
 From: Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net
 To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 10:24 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?


 Wasn't going to comment, but oh heck!

 I think Alex has it pegged.  I see a lot of Astronauts getting their
 ham license but figure that is probably NASA encouraged mainly for
 PR purposes and secondarily for emergency comms if the main systems
 fail.  It is likely many Astronauts are not particularly interested
 in ham radio, per se.  I'll admit making your first contact with
 either the shuttle or ISS is a thrill and fun, but the opportunities
 may be not that frequent, nor should any ham expect it to be so.
 -
 Now on a related subject, I would really favor Amsat approaching NASA
 for the installation of a linear transponder (say Mode UV) unit to be
 attached to the exterior of ISS (with remote shut-off for ISS
 critical operations).  This may be a better option to finding/paying
 for launch opportunities for free orbiting linear-transponder
 satellites.  Since there is a regular launch schedule to resupply ISS
 and no propellant/engine would be involved it would be a benign cargo
 item.

 I do not underestimate the difficulty quotient for such a mission,
 but we do have ham gear installed on ISS, and have done Suitsat and
 ARISSat with NASA and ISS.

 If no launch is forthcoming for P3E perhaps the backup unit (sans
 propellant system and solar panels) could be considered?  It would be
 in a Leo orbit but at least it would provide a long-term alternative
 to FM Leos.

 Something to chew on and consider?

 73, Ed - KL7UW

 At 05:57 AM 6/29/2011, Alexander Sack wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 AM, KM9U arsk...@gmail.com wrote:
  
  
   So I think everyone read the announcement ARRL made before FD.  Now
   that FD weekend is at an end, can someone explain to me why NASA
   couldn't let the astronauts have 10 minutes on the radio for one
 pass?
I mean were they having issues with the radio itself?
  
   During Expedition 24/25, Col. Wheelock made many contacts from the 
   ISS
 in
   the evenings and on weekends during his free time. This was not
 because he
   was scheduled to be the radio, but rather because he enjoyed doing
 it.
   I don't believe we can blame NASA for the current crew members 
   obvious
 lack
   of interest in Amateur Radio. Had Col. Wheelock (or someone as
  enthustiastic
   as he) been aboard the ISS on FD, NA1SS would likely not have been
 silent.
  
   Have you never make a calculation or an estimation on how it costs a
 10
   minutes of an astronaut activity all costs including on board of the
 ISS ?
 
 I don't buy it.
 
 What I do believe is the current crew isn't that interested in making
 contacts with amateur radio operators.  That's fine.  Operating the
 radio outside the educational outreach program is ertainly not part of
 their mission.  I will just have to be more patient and hope someone
 gets the ham bug up there during some mission and starts to make
 contacts.  I can wait.
 
 I DO want to state again I think it behooves NASA and the whole space
 program to try to get someone on that radio like a Col Wheelock
 (doesn't have to be as frequent as Col Wheelock) to generate the
 enthusiasm and excitement for the ISS and the whole space program
 among hams.  My 2 cents.
 
   This brings up an interesting thought. The astronauts receive 
   monetary
   compensation for performing their duties while employed by NASA. So,
 if
   their employer schedules them to operate amateur radio as part of
 their job
   assignment, would this not violate Part 97.113 (Prohibited
 transmissions)
   which specifically prohibits Communications in which the station
 licensee
   or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including 
   communications
 on
   behalf of an employer.
   Now, DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! It is just a question.
  
 
 There is no pecuniary interest involved as I see it.
 
 -aps (KC2ZSX)
 
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[amsat-bb] Yeah

2011-06-29 Thread Kevin Deane

Made in U.S.A.

Kevin
KF7MYK
  
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[amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened?

2011-06-29 Thread Bob- W7LRD


Ed 

Something like this http://www.qsl.net/pe1rah/  would be perfect to plant on 
the ISS 

73 Bob W7LRD 

Seattle 



- Original Message -


From: Edward R. Cole kl...@acsalaska.net 
To: amsat-bb amsat-bb@amsat.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 1:24:12 PM 
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [AMSAT-BB] ISS, what the heck happened? 

Wasn't going to comment, but oh heck! 

I think Alex has it pegged.  I see a lot of Astronauts getting their 
ham license but figure that is probably NASA encouraged mainly for 
PR purposes and secondarily for emergency comms if the main systems 
fail.  It is likely many Astronauts are not particularly interested 
in ham radio, per se.  I'll admit making your first contact with 
either the shuttle or ISS is a thrill and fun, but the opportunities 
may be not that frequent, nor should any ham expect it to be so. 
- 
Now on a related subject, I would really favor Amsat approaching NASA 
for the installation of a linear transponder (say Mode UV) unit to be 
attached to the exterior of ISS (with remote shut-off for ISS 
critical operations).  This may be a better option to finding/paying 
for launch opportunities for free orbiting linear-transponder 
satellites.  Since there is a regular launch schedule to resupply ISS 
and no propellant/engine would be involved it would be a benign cargo item. 

I do not underestimate the difficulty quotient for such a mission, 
but we do have ham gear installed on ISS, and have done Suitsat and 
ARISSat with NASA and ISS. 

If no launch is forthcoming for P3E perhaps the backup unit (sans 
propellant system and solar panels) could be considered?  It would be 
in a Leo orbit but at least it would provide a long-term alternative 
to FM Leos. 

Something to chew on and consider? 

73, Ed - KL7UW 

At 05:57 AM 6/29/2011, Alexander Sack wrote: 
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:40 AM, KM9U arsk...@gmail.com wrote: 
  
  
  So I think everyone read the announcement ARRL made before FD.  Now 
  that FD weekend is at an end, can someone explain to me why NASA 
  couldn't let the astronauts have 10 minutes on the radio for one pass? 
   I mean were they having issues with the radio itself? 
  
  During Expedition 24/25, Col. Wheelock made many contacts from the ISS  in 
  the evenings and on weekends during his free time. This was not because he 
  was scheduled to be the radio, but rather because he enjoyed doing it. 
  I don't believe we can blame NASA for the current crew members obvious lack 
  of interest in Amateur Radio. Had Col. Wheelock (or someone as 
 enthustiastic 
  as he) been aboard the ISS on FD, NA1SS would likely not have been silent. 
  
  Have you never make a calculation or an estimation on how it costs a 10 
  minutes of an astronaut activity all costs including on board of the ISS ? 
 
I don't buy it. 
 
What I do believe is the current crew isn't that interested in making 
contacts with amateur radio operators.  That's fine.  Operating the 
radio outside the educational outreach program is ertainly not part of 
their mission.  I will just have to be more patient and hope someone 
gets the ham bug up there during some mission and starts to make 
contacts.  I can wait. 
 
I DO want to state again I think it behooves NASA and the whole space 
program to try to get someone on that radio like a Col Wheelock 
(doesn't have to be as frequent as Col Wheelock) to generate the 
enthusiasm and excitement for the ISS and the whole space program 
among hams.  My 2 cents. 
 
  This brings up an interesting thought. The astronauts receive monetary 
  compensation for performing their duties while employed by NASA. So, if 
  their employer schedules them to operate amateur radio as part of their job 
  assignment, would this not violate Part 97.113 (Prohibited transmissions) 
  which specifically prohibits Communications in which the station licensee 
  or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on 
  behalf of an employer. 
  Now, DON'T GET YOUR PANTIES IN A WAD! It is just a question. 
  
 
There is no pecuniary interest involved as I see it. 
 
-aps (KC2ZSX) 
 
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[amsat-bb] Spectacular Minotaur launch from Wallops this evening

2011-06-29 Thread Daniel Schultz
The Minotaur 1 rocket carrying the ORS-1 satellite was a spectacular sight
tonight from Burtonsville, MD, about 120 air miles from the launch site. I saw
the first stage exhaust plume and first stage burnout and staging in
binoculars. I wish it were possible to record that sight on video, but
photography is just not up to the task. Launch was at 11:09 pm.

There are more launches coming up, including a lunar mission later this year
and space station resupply launches next year.

Dan Schultz N8FGV


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[amsat-bb] PI9CAM Saturday July 2 active on EME

2011-06-29 Thread Rob Hardenberg PE1ITR
Hello,

I forward this message from the PI9CAM team to the amsat-bb.

73 Rob PE1ITR


PI9CAM, the 25 m dish in Dwingeloo The Netherlands (JO32ET) will be active on 
EME on Saturday July 2.

Anyone with a small yagi and small power on 70 cm can have a QSO with us via 
the moon using the
digital mode JT65b.
The clock of your computer must be right within 2 or 3 seconds.
The JT65b software and user guides can be downloaded here:
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjt.html


We worked several one yagi stations with 15 or 20 elements yagi and 20 to 30 
Watts output. We know
that any oscar 10/13 class satellite station is able to work us.
So if you want to try EME, point your antenna to the moon give it a go on 
Saturday July 2  !

We are to be found between 432.050 and 432.080MHz or on the HB9Q logger for 
actual frequency info
or talkback: http://hb9q.ch/joomla/index.php

Hope to meet you “on the moon” !

73!

Jan
PA3FXB (team PI9CAM)
http://www.camras.nl




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