[amsat-bb] SO-50 06:01-06:14 Not a soul...

2011-08-14 Thread Lee Maisel
serves me right for trying at midnight my time... :(   not a soul on the 
satellite, EXCELLENT overhead pass  Long...


Sigh...

Lee
W5LMM 
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[amsat-bb] Video with historic photos of the DOVE satellite

2011-08-14 Thread Roland Zurmely
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqTVsJtNHCs

73 de Roland PY4ZBZ
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[amsat-bb] Re: MMT 432/144 Manuals

2011-08-14 Thread i8cvs
Hi  Ben,

I have the original schematic diagram of the MMT 432/144 MHz
transverter and if you need it I can send a copy to you as email
attachement.

73 de

i8CVS Domenico

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Subject: [amsat-bb] MMT 432/144 Manuals


 Hello all -

 I recently picked up an MMT 432/144 module for cheap. It seems to work
 OK on receive, but seems to have very low output on transmit.

 Does anyone have any manual or schematic type information for this
 unit? I think I have some debugging ahead and schematics, especially,
 might come in handy.

 Thanks,
 Ben
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[amsat-bb] Re: [YCCC] Netbooks

2011-08-14 Thread Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF

Try and get Linux Mint, No version is crippled and it's free,

On 08/13/2011 08:20 PM, John Allen wrote:

By the way, try to get Win 7 Home Premium and avoid the crippled Win 7 starter
edition if you can.

John K1AE


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[amsat-bb] Re: [YCCC] Netbooks

2011-08-14 Thread Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF
Battery life is no better because the battery is (generally) smaller 
although larger batteries are available at a cost.


Other than that, there are no real technical issues, it's a laptop with 
a small screen/keyboard and an Intel Atom processor.



On 08/13/2011 09:09 PM, Alex Malyava wrote:

What's the benefit of net-books?
Size, weight, battery life?
they are cheaper, but not that much - cheapest 15 notebooks are $280...320.
CPU and memory are also not as good as in notebooks.

Where you gonna use it?

If someone tested net-book+radio configuration and it runs no problem 100% -
I can be convinced that there is no reason to pay more for notebook and
carry more weight to some DX country.

AM



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[amsat-bb] FW: [ans] ANS-226 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins

2011-08-14 Thread Dee
AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-226

***[Keep watch with ANS for any late breaking details of ARRISat-1]***
ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North
America, The
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the activities of
a
worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active
interest in
designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and
digital
Amateur Radio satellites.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:

ans-edi...@amsat.org

In this edition:
* ARISSat-1/KEDR at +10 Days: ON-ORBIT and OPERATIONAL
* BOD Ballot Reminder
* Send For Your ARISSat-1/KEDR Certificates
* 2011 AMSAT Space Symposium Call for Papers Continues  Satellite
Shorts
* 2011 AMSAT Symposium and Annual Meeting Registration Now Open 
* Reminder: The DARA Matching Gift Challenge Runs Until September 1
* ARISS Status - 8 August 2011
* AMSAT Contest
* ARISSat-1 Battery is failing faster than expected


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-226.01
ARISSat-1/KEDR at +10 Days: ON-ORBIT and OPERATIONAL

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 226.01
  From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
August 14, 2011
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-226.01

Hundreds of reception reports have been received since ARISSat-1/KEDR 
was deployed from the ISS. Full operational capability of the satel-
lite has been confirmed in the 10 days since the start of the mission 
on August 3.

The satellite's power system monitors the battery voltage and 
switches between High power mode (continuous transmission) when 
sunlight is charging the battery and Low power mode (40 seconds 
transmit/2 minutes idle) when in eclipse. Telemetry data shows 
that the ARISSat-1 Battery voltage is decreasing each eclipse 
period. It therefore is taking longer for the battery to charge 
up to 32.5V to allow the switch from Low Power to High Power when 
the satellite enters an illumination period.

Kenneth Ransom, N5VHO has plotted the battery min/max for the last 
8 days. The data shows that the battery voltage is decreasing at a 
faster rate than expected. Kenneth's graph can be found on the 
arissat1.org site under FAQ: http://tinyurl.com/3e5c2y8 (arissat1.org)


The effect of this is that ARISSat-1/KEDR remains in Low power mode
for a period of time after exiting eclipse. The team recommend that
users take advantage of the High Power mode as much as possible over 
the next few days.

435 MHz - 145 MHz Linear Transponder - OPERATIONAL
--
The linear transponder operates in Mode U/V (70 cm Up, 2m Down). It 
is an 16 KHz wide inverting passband. The convention is to TX LSB on 
the 435 MHz uplink and RX USB on the 145 MHz downlink. Several amateur

radio operators have been reporting successful contacts via the linear

transponder.

After the initial success with the linear transponder reported by 
KO4MA, K8YSE, KD8CAO, and JN1GKZ last week news of addition contacts
have been received from amateur radio operators worldwide:

+ Henk, PA3GUO uplinked an SSTV signal to the linear transponder and
  received the picture on the downlink. He posted a copy of the rec-
  cecived image at:
  http://www.pa3guo.com/pa3guo_arissat1_sstv_9aug2011_0258utc.jpg
  His station configuration was:
  Uplink HW: TS2000X, 435MHz, 5W RF power + 12 elements beam
  Uplink SW: MMSSTV + HRD (doppler control)
  Downlink HW: FunCubeDongle (SDR) + SP-2000 preamp + 2x6 elements
beam
  Downlink SW: MMSSTV + DK3WN Satcontrol (doppler/freq control) +
HDSDR
  
+ Andre, ZS2BK reported a successful two-way CW contact with Pierre,
  ZS6A on August 5.

+ Alex, VK5ALX reported a contact with Geoff, VK2ZAZ on August 6.

+ Bruce, VE9QRP was able to access the linear transponder with 40
watts 
  into a Lindenblad on TX and another omni on receive. Bruce
commented,
  It's an amazing thrill to work our AMSAT SDX for the first time,
and
  my sense is that any VO-52 class station should be able to hear its
  downlink.

+ Luciano, PY5LF had a contact with Roland, PY4ZBZ and recorded it:
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ2Gujm2vtc

145.950 MHz FM Downlink - OPERATIONAL

145.919 MHz CW Beacons - OPERATIONAL

The CW transmissions include the satellite callsign ID RS01S, select 
telemetry, and callsigns of people actively involved with the ARISS 
program.

145.920 MHz SSB BPSK-1000 Telemetry - OPERATIONAL
-
AMSAT needs your telemetry from ARISSat-1/KEDR. Since there are no
Whole Orbit Data storage mechanisms onboard ARISSat-1/KEDR, your
submissions are the only way for AMSAT to collect the spacecraft
telemetry and KURSK experiment results.

+ Recorded file ARISSat-1/KEDR and Kursk telemetry CSV files (in the
  ARISSatTLM folder) can be sent as an e-mail attachment to:
  teleme...@arissattlm.org

+ If you are running ARISSatTLM and receiving the signal live
  from ARISSat-1/KEDR, please enable the telemetry forwarding option.

+ The latest telemetry can be seen LIVE on your 

[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Chicken Little Contest Announced!

2011-08-14 Thread Alan P. Biddle
All,

By popular demand we are going to be running a Chicken Little Contest for
ARISSat-1.  Using the method of your choice, give us your best guesstimate
of when it will finally reenter.  One submission per person, class, or club,
please.

Alan
WA4SCA





AMSAT is happy to announce the ARISSat-1 Chicken Little Contest.  
This is your opportunity to calculate, or guess, when ARISSat-1 
falls out of orbit. This is defined as the time it crosses an 
altitude of 78 kilometers, which is considered to be the point of 
no return. While not part of the contest, the actual reentry may 
be visible depending on location. Reports are encouraged.   

As in the past, we will have three divisions:

+ Student category for Kindergarten through grade 8
+ Student category for High School, grades 9 through 12
+ All others will be in the adult category.  

In addition to individual students, we encourage classes or organ-
izations such as science clubs to make group submissions. Submissions 
are limited to one per person or group. Members of a group making a 
submission may not submit a second, individual entry.

+ Adults and individual students should include their name and amateur
  callsign if they have one. 

+ Individual students should also give their grade in school.  

+ Student groups should include the name of their group or class, 
  school, and which category they represent.  

+ Please give the UTC date in the format of day, month, year, hours, 
  minutes, and seconds.  

+ Finally, we would like to know your city, state, province or 
  region, and your country.

+ Submissions will close on 15 September 2011 at 23:59:00 UTC. 

The closest predictions in each category will be recognized for their 
achievement. Send your submissions to chickenlit...@arissat1.org. 
Good luck!

[ANS thanks ARISSat-1/KEDR team for the above information]


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[amsat-bb] Re: [YCCC] Netbooks

2011-08-14 Thread Fred Hopengarten
Alex:

Benefits of a netbook (I have the smaller of the two Acer sizes, only
something like 8.9 inches for the screen):

Size:   Yes

Weight: Yes.  My Acer Aspire One weights almost exactly 1.0 kg. (2.2 lbs.)
Acer sells one size larger screen (10+ inches), but it weights more.

Battery life:  Sucks. I get 2.25 hours. You can squeeze out another 45
minutes by turning off wi-fi, turning off sound, etc. You can get a bigger
battery, or a replacement 2d battery (to swap in), but this adds weight.

Keyboard:  85% the size of normal, but I find it tolerable -- even for legal
writing.  Not great, but tolerable.

Ham radio: I brought my tiny Acer Aspire One to Bulgaria for the LZ HF Open.
It did everything I asked of it.  It sent CW, controlled the IC-7000, ran
N1MM.  There was no internet, but on another occasion, if I needed it, I
could also run internet spotting for point and shoot. (But remember, you run
out of screen real estate faster on a small screen.) 

Business:  Smaller means easier to bring along with a projector to show
zoning people why they are wrong about their ideas on restricting antennas.

When travelling, I like the tiny Acer because it fits into a European
man-bag and weighs only 1 kg.  No need for a computer bag.  This means I
can check e-mail whenever I find myself in a wi-fi hotspot. Some of the
hotels/inns don't have wi-fi, and I'll never remember to come back and find
that coffee shop with wi-fi. 

Downside:  CPU slower, less memory. Result: Working on a 25 MB document (a
filing with photos) is occasionally irritating because it is slower than my
desktop. My tiny netbook uses the Atom processor, which is just barely
enough.

Conclusion: MicroCenter sells Acer Aspire One netbooks about twice a year
for $199. If you break one on the road (or lose one, but thank goodness
neither has happened to me yet), you don't feel so bad. I think of mine as a
really nice toy that I thoroughly enjoy. And I really like travelling with
Skype. But I doubt I'd recommend a netbook for processor-intensive
engineering, or extensive use of Google Earth.

Bottom line to question asked:  I've used my netbook with an IC-7000 and it
ran 100%.


Fred Hopengarten, Esq. K1VR  -- hopengar...@post.harvard.edu
Six Willarch Road
Lincoln, MA 01773
www.antennazoning.com


  

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From: yccc-boun...@contesting.com [mailto:yccc-boun...@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Alex Malyava
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 5:10 PM
To: tjja...@earthlink.net
Cc: yccc; amsat-bb; obo
Subject: Re: [YCCC] Netbooks

What's the benefit of net-books?
Size, weight, battery life?
they are cheaper, but not that much - cheapest 15 notebooks are $280...320.
CPU and memory are also not as good as in notebooks.

Where you gonna use it?

If someone tested net-book+radio configuration and it runs no problem 100% -
I can be convinced that there is no reason to pay more for notebook and
carry more weight to some DX country.

AM

On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 9:05 AM, ANTHONY JAPHA tjja...@earthlink.netwrote:

 All,
 Mni tnx for the responses about netbooks.  Generally, a lot of
satisfaction
 with them, with concerns abt. speed and keyboard size.  In my application,
 neither should be a problem.  ASUS was highly recommended.
 73,
 Tony, N2UN
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[amsat-bb] Re: Decoding wideband recordings

2011-08-14 Thread Bruce Robertson
On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Phil Karn k...@philkarn.net wrote:
 On 8/10/11 8:24 PM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote:
 I have a Fun Cube Dongle so I would Phil. Thanks and 73, Tom n4zpt

 Okay, everybody make and keep your wideband I/Q recordings and I'll work
 on an enhancement to my demodulation/decoding software to process them.
 It may not run in real time on slower machines because of the need to
 search a wider frequency range, but this won't matter if it can work on
 a recording.

 I can probably speed things up by including an orbit model in the modem
 to predict Doppler open-loop, but this will take time to implement and
 it will still be vulnerable to small errors in the elements and/or your
 clock, especially around closest approach. So record the date and time
 of your recordings and the current eleset at that time.


For those who have not noted this feature, HDSDR will open a recording
scheduler if you right click on the 'record' button. It saves files
with UTC time appended. The tricky part is that you have to set the
scheduler manually in local time.

I've been thinking it would be a nifty hack to make a FCD recorder for
a set of satellites using a very small computer, like the BeagleBoard.
It seems to me that a daily cron job with 'Predict' would just about
do what was necessary, especially now that we have a commandline tool
for the FCD. The only part that would take some fiddling would be
piping the USB sound card into a file with the proper headers for
HDSDR.

73, Bruce VE9QRP


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[amsat-bb] Re: Decoding wideband recordings

2011-08-14 Thread Al Bolduc


Try the following

#!/bin/bash
#
#   Record sdr data from FunCube Dongle.
#
#   Usage: fcd_record extra_options filename
#   example: fcd_record --duration=60 tt.wav
#

DEV=--device=hw:3
OPTIONS=--format=S16_LE --channels=2 --rate=96000

arecord $DEV $OPTIONS $@



On Sun, 14 Aug 2011, Bruce Robertson wrote:


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Phil Karn k...@philkarn.net wrote:

On 8/10/11 8:24 PM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote:

I have a Fun Cube Dongle so I would Phil. Thanks and 73, Tom n4zpt


Okay, everybody make and keep your wideband I/Q recordings and I'll work
on an enhancement to my demodulation/decoding software to process them.
It may not run in real time on slower machines because of the need to
search a wider frequency range, but this won't matter if it can work on
a recording.

I can probably speed things up by including an orbit model in the modem
to predict Doppler open-loop, but this will take time to implement and
it will still be vulnerable to small errors in the elements and/or your
clock, especially around closest approach. So record the date and time
of your recordings and the current eleset at that time.



For those who have not noted this feature, HDSDR will open a recording
scheduler if you right click on the 'record' button. It saves files
with UTC time appended. The tricky part is that you have to set the
scheduler manually in local time.

I've been thinking it would be a nifty hack to make a FCD recorder for
a set of satellites using a very small computer, like the BeagleBoard.
It seems to me that a daily cron job with 'Predict' would just about
do what was necessary, especially now that we have a commandline tool
for the FCD. The only part that would take some fiddling would be
piping the USB sound card into a file with the proper headers for
HDSDR.

73, Bruce VE9QRP


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[amsat-bb] ARISSat=1 Report)s)

2011-08-14 Thread Stuart Balanger
*I would like to send 2 telemetry (reception)ARISSat-1
reports:
1) Stuat Ballinger (WA2BSS); August 8/1008(UTC Signal Strength S1 to S3
Clearly heard the ID, but couldn't make out the telemetry stats;
Poughkeepsie,NY
USA; wa2...@gmail.com
Tranciver used: Kenwood TM-255A  Ringo Ranger.

2) Stuart Ballinger (WA2BSS);August 13/0104 UTC Signal strngth S1
No ID, but heard voices,  no telemetry.  the noise flor ws nil
for only abr 1/2 min.  Poughkeepsie,NY USA;wa2...@gmail.com
Tranceiver used: Kenwood TS-2000  Ringo Ranger!

  Thanks,.  73,.Stu
*
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[amsat-bb] Re: Secret Word question

2011-08-14 Thread Mike Schaffer
James:
 
ARISSat1.org are getting hundreds of reception reports flooding into the 
organization. 
 
I reported my secret word to them four days ago with no pdf certificate 
received to date.
 
With the Aug 11 delay in high power mode while entering sunlight and then the 
Aug 12 battery failing has caused a shift in priorities, less time devoted to 
generating pdf certificates is my guess.
 
We all need to be extra patient on this one.

73's
 
Mike Schaffer
KA3JAW
EL87
Tampa, Florida
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[amsat-bb] Arissat-1

2011-08-14 Thread PY5LF
Hi

Voice telemetry , 145950.0 , 17:30 UTC , Transponder ON:

MET - 40min

IHU Temp - 42C

Control Panel Temp - 56C

Battery Voltage - 36.6V

Battery Current   -4mA

73

 

PY5LF

LUCIANO FABRICIO

Curitiba-PR-Brazil GG54jm

 http://www.qrz.com/db/py5lf http://www.qrz.com/db/py5lf

 

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[amsat-bb] Thinking about ARISSat-2

2011-08-14 Thread Burns Fisher
I know the ARISSat team is busy with bird #1, but I'm just thinking about
lessons we might learn for version 2.  I think it is great that we are
getting so much data about the battery.  Assuming that there might be
another satellite launched from the ISS, we will still have the same
man-rating issues, and thus the battery might need to be the same Russian
space suit battery.  If that were true, what might we take away from #1 to
help with #2?   It was hoped that many shallow charge cycles might keep the
battery running longer than the few deeps cycles that it is spec'ed for.
 Sounds like we got maybe 10 days out of it before it started to
deteriorate.

What about another strategy?  Suppose we did exactly what the battery was
spec'ed for:  Deep cycles.  Let's say 333ma current draw and let's say that
the battery is rated at 24Ah.  So what if we only charged the battery every
3 days; maybe even turn off the transmitter while it charges.  5 cycles is
15 days.  A bit better than this time.   Maybe (also) we extend that 3 days
between charges by only using the batteries in eclipse.

This obviously requires additional electronics; in particular the battery
can't be on the main power bus; we want to be able to isolate it to prevent
it charging on every orbit.  But that might be good anyway...the ability to
isolate the battery might be desirable when the battery does die for good.

Just thinking...

Burns, W2BFJ
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[amsat-bb] what's flying that does packet

2011-08-14 Thread Eric Fort
I may be going on an extended adventure which will take me far from the
usual communications facilities of phone, internet, or even regular postal
mail.  This pretty much leaves HF and SAT as my options for messaging and
communication with the outside world.  As far as SATs go, what's presently
flying or near term planned for launch that will serve as a message relay
for nts type messages?

Thanks,

Eric
AF6EP
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[amsat-bb] Re: Secret Word question (Mike Schaffer)

2011-08-14 Thread James Luhn

Mike  Alan,
Thank you so much for your reply to my question about the Secret Word 
contest.  I sure do not want my post about the contest to imply that I am in a hurry to 
receive a certificate.  I am so appreciative of those who volunteer and make programs 
like ARISSAT-1 so interesting, exciting, informative, and even habit forming.  I have 
been an active ham for 50 years but relatively new to the satellite area.  I have come to 
realize just how habit forming this facet of Amateur Radio is.  I plan my life around the 
acquisition and loss of signals, having the radio prepared with the appropriate software 
running, antenna positions,  and on and on.  I sincerely thank everyone who contributes 
to the many pieces that make the satellite puzzles complete. OMG, now a contest to guess 
(you smart folks probably know!) when ARISSAT-1 will reenter. This will be like losing a 
family member!  Mine will only be a guess...discussing death is hard to do!

Thank you to all involved!

73,
James
W5AOO


Message: 7
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 10:32:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Mike Schafferdaets...@yahoo.com
To:amsat-bb@amsat.org  amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Secret Word question
Message-ID:
1313343168.11149.yahoomail...@web113816.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

James:
?
ARISSat1.org are getting hundreds of reception reports flooding into the 
organization.?
?
I?reported my secret word to them four days ago with?no pdf certificate 
received to date.
?
With the Aug 11 delay in high power mode while entering sunlight and then the 
Aug 12 battery failing has caused a shift in priorities, less time devoted to 
generating pdf certificates is my guess.
?
We all need to be extra patient on this one.

73's
?
Mike Schaffer
KA3JAW
EL87
Tampa, Florida

Message: 9
Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 13:09:44 -0500
From: Alan P. Biddle
To: 'James Luhn'l...@wt.net,amsat-bb@amsat.org
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Secret Word question
Message-ID:846D30D9E0094D3097F49793FB34EB70@WA4SCA
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=us-ascii

James,

This is handled by a small team of real humans, or at least real hams.
Emphasis on the word small.  The confirmation process is active, but it
will take a little time to get things up to full speed.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA



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[amsat-bb] Re: Thinking about ARISSat-2

2011-08-14 Thread Trevor .
--- On Sun, 14/8/11, Burns Fisher bu...@fisher.cc wrote:
 This obviously requires additional electronics; in particular 
 the battery can't be on the main power bus; we want to be able 
 to isolate it to prevent it charging on every orbit.  But that 
 might be good anyway...the ability to isolate the battery might 
 be desirable when the battery does die for good.

Presumably if RSC Energia provide the resources to launch ARISSat-2 it'll be 
the spare ARISSat that was delivered to Moscow along with ARISSat-1 that will 
be going up ? 

I guess due to it's current location there'd be little opportunity to make 
changes to the circuitry ?

I've been very impressed by the Slow Scan TV pictures from the satellite. 
Including SSTV was a good move both in terms of educational outreach and for 
promoting Amateur Satellites to the wider Amateur Radio community.

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] Re: Thinking about ARISSat-2

2011-08-14 Thread g0mrf

 I note in Tony's article a predicted failure mode for this battery is a short 
circuit. So, we are very lucky so far in that it appears to be open circuit or 
has developed a high internal resistance.
Regarding different battery chemistries that are suitable for the ISS. - I see 
in some of the videos produced by the crew that there are a large number of 
commercial cameras on board for Earth observation. Presumably these are powered 
by conventional Lithium Ion battery packs. Not exactly rated for the job, but 
it does show there is more than just Silver/Zinc onboard although there could 
be a maximum energy limit to the capacity to avoid fire / explosion. (e.g. 
there's a 100W/hr limit to some cubesat launches)

Thanksand still enjoying ARISSat-1

David  G0MRF

 


 

 

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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Thinking about ARISSat-2


--- On Sun, 14/8/11, Burns Fisher bu...@fisher.cc wrote:
 This obviously requires additional electronics; in particular 
 the battery can't be on the main power bus; we want to be able 
 to isolate it to prevent it charging on every orbit.  But that 
 might be good anyway...the ability to isolate the battery might 
 be desirable when the battery does die for good.

Presumably if RSC Energia provide the resources to launch ARISSat-2 it'll be 
the 
spare ARISSat that was delivered to Moscow along with ARISSat-1 that will be 
going up ? 

I guess due to it's current location there'd be little opportunity to make 
changes to the circuitry ?

I've been very impressed by the Slow Scan TV pictures from the satellite. 
Including SSTV was a good move both in terms of educational outreach and for 
promoting Amateur Satellites to the wider Amateur Radio community.

73 Trevor M5AKA


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[amsat-bb] Arissat transponder active over Europe.

2011-08-14 Thread Eric Knaps, ON4HF

Hello,

I was listening to a 21:05 utc pass over Europe and got a nice sstv 
picture and voice telemetry in full power mode. Since I was listening 
with a FCD I saw activity on the transponder also.

I heard EA1JM calling cq.
As soon as it went in eclipse I heard nothing anymore untill LOS.

73,
Eric.

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Eric Knaps
Satellite manager UBA

Tel. +32472985876 (mobile)

http://www.on4hf.be

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[amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 5500 rotator

2011-08-14 Thread Gary Joe Mayfield
I like about 10 feet of steel tubing mounted as shown here:

http://www.g6lvb.com/fibermetalboom.htm


73,
Joe kk0sd

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[amsat-bb] Re: what's flying that does packet

2011-08-14 Thread Bob Bruninga
 I may be going on an extended adventure which 
 will take me far from the usual communications...
 As far as SATs go, what's presently flying or 
 near term planned for launch that will serve 
 as a message relay for nts type messages?

Better to squeeze your messages down to APRS style one-liners and then you will 
have several options including direct Email. 

1) ISS 145.825 up and down
2) Later this fall FAST1 and FAST2 if releaset to amateur use
3) PCSAT-1 (W3ADO up and down on 145.825)

PCSAT-1 is basically dead but one or two packets might get through during 
mid-day passes rarely.  See live downlink on http://pcsat.aprs.org

ISS is often on, but sometimes off for days at a time.  See current activity at 
http://www.ariss.net

FAST1 will have the same 145.825 uplink but ground stations will have to 
monitor the UHF downlink.  And FAST2 has a 145.825 downlink, but it takes a KW 
on the uplink, but can be used to get messages to you from fixed stations.

I keep begging to get more 145.825 transponders on every bird that flies and 
has room, so that we can have a continuous presence on there, independent of 
bird.

Bob, WB4APR

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[amsat-bb] ET - Email Home

2011-08-14 Thread Bob Bruninga
 As far as SATs go, what's presently flying or 
 near term planned for launch that will serve 
 as a message relay for nts type messages?

Since all of the packet digipeating satellties can also transparently carry 
email, it was interesting the other day when Nick Pugh K5QXJ suggested that not 
only can APRS satellites EMAIL their telemetry directly to their makers, the 
controllers can also send commands directly back to the satellites via 
conventional APRS mail as well!

For a satellite to email its telemetry directly to a callsign (for delivery by 
any worldwide email device) all it has to do is format its telemetry like any 
other APRS one-line email.  Here is the format:

PCSATAPRS::EMAIL:wb4...@arrl.net I'm OK: V=12, I=140, T=30C

In this case PCSAT sends an email to WB4APR via his ARRL address with the words 
I'm OK... and then whatever other telemetry the satellite wants to include.  

This works this way because the global APRS system will take any packet 
anywhere that is addressed to EMAIL and then wrap it up into standard EMAIL 
and send it via the internet.

Since all IGates on the planet including the ones that are monitioring the 
satellites automatically do this, then the system is in place.  

For the satellite operator to send back a command to the satellite this too is 
aoutamitcally handled in all existing IGate software.  If an APRS message is 
seen anywhere on the planet addressed to any callsign, in this case, the 
callsign of a small satellite, then any IGate that is IN RANGE of the satellite 
at any instant (and has heard it) will attempt to transmit that packet onto the 
satellite uplink in real time.

No one has done this yet I dont think, because most Satellite IGates have 
mostly just been used for downlink, and no one has tried this uplink before.  
The one thing that would have to change is the TIME-OUT time in the 
has-been-heard list of the IGates.  As it is, an IGate will try to return a 
message to another callsign if it has been heard in the last 30 minutes or so.  
For satellites, we would want this to time out after only 10 minutes, since a 
LEO will be out of range by then.

But it is possible.  Might be fun.

Bob, Wb4APR
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[amsat-bb] Re: 436CP42UG polarity switch update manual of M2 ???

2011-08-14 Thread Alan P. Biddle
Juan,

The instructions for the polarity switch were written for the shorter
version of the antenna.  There are some differences in the installation for
the 42 element version.  Attached to the direct mail is copy of a more
recent version than you have.  It helps with some, but not all, of the
issues.  The drawing has the new dimensions for the rear shorting bar.
There is a note for the front shorting bar saying Shorting bars remain here
at 4.375 inches.  

Hope this helps.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


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Behalf Of Juan Antonio Fernandez
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 1:36 PM
To: amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] 436CP42UG polarity switch update manual of M2 ???

In order to update the 436CP42UG M2 antenna with the 436 Polarity
Switch, I can read in the 436 Polarity switch update Manual of
11-29-00 in the point 10. Re-install the shorting bars on the rear
driven element.  Set de bars at the dimension shown on the Antena
dimensions sheet.  Note: On the 436CP42UG, the rear shorting bars are
at a different dimension than the front driven element shorting bars.

In the 436CP42 U/G Assembly Manual Rev. 5-20-96 of 10-6-95, in the
antenna dimensions sheet, I can read only one dimension for the
shorting bars of both driven elements 4,375?.

Can somebody help me?

Please answers in -bb or at ea4...@amsat.org

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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Battery

2011-08-14 Thread Anthony Monteiro

Dear Friends,

This is speculation but it looks to me like we
have had a bit of good luck regarding the battery.

Looking at the battery voltage from deployment on...

Up until Aug 11, the battery seems to be deteriorating
normally with a slight downtrend in the max voltage
as expected. But on Aug 11, the battery voltage
suddenly rises up to 36 V max and the satellite
has started resetting in eclipse.

I think the explanation is that the battery experienced a
significant event on Aug 11 where it lost the electrolyte
in one or more cells. If this is true, the bad news is
that it will no longer hold a charge and will not operate
in eclipse any more.

But the good news is that without electrolyte,
it would also stop dendrite growth that causes
the eventual battery short circuit.

In our ground testing, our test battery failed in the
usual way with the battery load increasing until the
solar panels could not drive the power bus high enough to
run the satellite. But interestingly, several cells also
cracked and dumped their electrolyte during this testing.

If a cell on the flight battery cracked and dumped its
electrolyte BEFORE the shorts were formed, it should
stay that way and the satellite may very well continue
to operate in the sun until it starts to re-enter. We just
need some luck to avoid a bad solar angle that would cause a
reset in sunlight.

Keep your fingers crossed! :)

73,
Tony AA2TX



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[amsat-bb] Re: [suitsat2] ARISSat-1 Battery

2011-08-14 Thread Phil Karn
On 8/14/11 3:18 PM, Anthony Monteiro wrote:

 I think the explanation is that the battery experienced a
 significant event on Aug 11 where it lost the electrolyte
 in one or more cells. If this is true, the bad news is
 that it will no longer hold a charge and will not operate
 in eclipse any more.

I agree with your analysis in that one or more cells seems to have gone
open-circuit, or at least greatly reduced in capacity. If you know these
batteries and their specific failure mechanisms, then I'd say your lost
electrolyte theory is a pretty good one.

I never have understood why the dendrites would not be melted by high
current as soon as they crossed the gap between the two plates. I assume
they grow on the zinc plates as the battery is charged?

-Phil
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[amsat-bb] 2317utc Pass over VK

2011-08-14 Thread Colin Hurst
The 2317UTC 14th August 2011 pass over VK, was Continuous for the whole pass
on High Power

Last frame shows Battery Voltage at 35.977

73

Colin VK5HI

 

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[amsat-bb] Re: Thinking about ARISSat-2

2011-08-14 Thread Phil Karn
On 8/14/11 11:31 AM, Burns Fisher wrote:

 What about another strategy?  Suppose we did exactly what the battery was
 spec'ed for:  Deep cycles.

Almost every type of battery does better with shallow cycles than deep
cycles. So this is almost certainly true for Ag/Zn as well. These
batteries just aren't designed for many cycles.

There is a company (Z-power) working on a Ag/Zn battery with a decent
cycle life, intended for use in laptops. They claim the price of silver
isn't an impediment because laptop li-ion batteries are also expensive
and the silver in their batteries can be reclaimed and reused
indefinitely. One advantage they keep citing is the increased safety of
a battery with a water-based electrolyte. But newer li-ion batteries
have also been developed with different positive plate materials that
greatly reduce the inherent fire hazard of these batteries.

I don't know what the recent run-up in precious metal prices has done to
their business plans.

I would like to investigate super/ultracaps for spacecraft use. Their
energy densities are low (a Maxwell ultracap the size of a D-cell
battery holds about 0.35 watt-hour) but their cycle lives are extremely
high: about 500,000 for a 20% degradation in capacity. These could still
run a satellite computer through a LEO eclipse, eliminating one of the
major problems with a modern satellite whose battery has failed.

If a few of these caps could be flown, it might also be possible to run
a low power, efficiently coded telemetry beacon through eclipse.

But of course the caps would have to be safety rated. They do contain
small amounts of potentially hazardous materials, but then again so do
Ag/Zn batteries: their electrolytes consist of a strong lye (KOH)
solution. It's hard to understand why these batteries would be approved
but not NiCd and NiMH as they also use KOH in H2O as their electrolytes.
If stored energy is considered a hazard, they could always be launched
discharged and charged after deployment.

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[amsat-bb] Re: Thinking about ARISSat-2

2011-08-14 Thread Burns Fisher
Thanks, Phil.  That's pretty interesting, although I still do wonder about
keeping within spec.  I especially wonder about Ag/Zn where there is that
chemistry change in the middle of the charge cycle; what is the result of
perhaps never crossing chemistry change threshold with shallow cycles?  I
certainly don't know.

One of the ARRISat papers I read talked about Ag/Zn being safe when shorted.
 I suppose that 'safe' is for the battery itself.  You would still have a
lot of current going through whatever caused the short.

I was also intrigued when you mentioned super-caps in a previous posting.
 The enormous cycle life is really useful...it seems like just keeping the
IHU ticking over would be really useful, even if we had no up/downlink
capability during eclipse.  And of course we could think about having them
as a backup after the 'standard' battery died.

Interesting to think about...

BTW, you may not remember, but we exchanged email many years ago; we were
both on one of the USENET boards (sci.space.columbia?)  I asked if I could
join AMSAT before I got my ham ticket.  You were kind enough to encourage
me.  Well, I did join AMSAT a year or 2 ago, and just this spring got my
general ticket too.  So thanks for the encouragement even if it was a few
decades before I acted on it :-)

Burns, W2BFJ

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Phil Karn k...@philkarn.net wrote:

 On 8/14/11 11:31 AM, Burns Fisher wrote:

  What about another strategy?  Suppose we did exactly what the battery was
  spec'ed for:  Deep cycles.

 Almost every type of battery does better with shallow cycles than deep
 cycles. So this is almost certainly true for Ag/Zn as well. These
 batteries just aren't designed for many cycles.

 There is a company (Z-power) working on a Ag/Zn battery with a decent
 cycle life, intended for use in laptops. They claim the price of silver
 isn't an impediment because laptop li-ion batteries are also expensive
 and the silver in their batteries can be reclaimed and reused
 indefinitely. One advantage they keep citing is the increased safety of
 a battery with a water-based electrolyte. But newer li-ion batteries
 have also been developed with different positive plate materials that
 greatly reduce the inherent fire hazard of these batteries.

 I don't know what the recent run-up in precious metal prices has done to
 their business plans.

 I would like to investigate super/ultracaps for spacecraft use. Their
 energy densities are low (a Maxwell ultracap the size of a D-cell
 battery holds about 0.35 watt-hour) but their cycle lives are extremely
 high: about 500,000 for a 20% degradation in capacity. These could still
 run a satellite computer through a LEO eclipse, eliminating one of the
 major problems with a modern satellite whose battery has failed.

 If a few of these caps could be flown, it might also be possible to run
 a low power, efficiently coded telemetry beacon through eclipse.

 But of course the caps would have to be safety rated. They do contain
 small amounts of potentially hazardous materials, but then again so do
 Ag/Zn batteries: their electrolytes consist of a strong lye (KOH)
 solution. It's hard to understand why these batteries would be approved
 but not NiCd and NiMH as they also use KOH in H2O as their electrolytes.
 If stored energy is considered a hazard, they could always be launched
 discharged and charged after deployment.

 -Phil





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[amsat-bb] Re: [suitsat2] ARISSat-1 Battery

2011-08-14 Thread Anthony Monteiro

Hi Phil,

I think the initial dendrites DO just spark and
open up but eventually the spacer is damaged
and the short is enough to bring the cell voltage down.

Yes, Zinc dendrites will form also if the battery is
overcharged but we should not be able to do that on
ARISSat-1 so only the silver ones should be an issue.

73,
Tony AA2TX
---

On 8/14/2011 6:56 PM, Phil Karn wrote:

On 8/14/11 3:18 PM, Anthony Monteiro wrote:


I think the explanation is that the battery experienced a
significant event on Aug 11 where it lost the electrolyte
in one or more cells. If this is true, the bad news is
that it will no longer hold a charge and will not operate
in eclipse any more.


I agree with your analysis in that one or more cells seems to have gone
open-circuit, or at least greatly reduced in capacity. If you know these
batteries and their specific failure mechanisms, then I'd say your lost
electrolyte theory is a pretty good one.

I never have understood why the dendrites would not be melted by high
current as soon as they crossed the gap between the two plates. I assume
they grow on the zinc plates as the battery is charged?

-Phil



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[amsat-bb] 5 IN EM55

2011-08-14 Thread wa4hfn
Congrats to Matt N8MS award #23 for 5 in EM55
WA4HFN em55
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[amsat-bb] Telemetry data - Battery Voltage

2011-08-14 Thread Mike Schaffer
Monday, August 15, 0002 UTC ARISSat-1 heard on a high power mode on 145.950 FM 
with voice telemetry indicating battery voltage 35.93 volts.
 
73's
 
Mike Schaffer
KA3JAW
Tampa, Florida
EL87
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[amsat-bb] Re: Decoding wideband recordings

2011-08-14 Thread Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC)

Quoting Bruce Robertson ve9...@gmail.com:


On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 7:07 PM, Phil Karn k...@philkarn.net wrote:

On 8/10/11 8:24 PM, Tom Azlin N4ZPT wrote:

I have a Fun Cube Dongle so I would Phil. Thanks and 73, Tom n4zpt


Okay, everybody make and keep your wideband I/Q recordings and I'll work
on an enhancement to my demodulation/decoding software to process them.
It may not run in real time on slower machines because of the need to
search a wider frequency range, but this won't matter if it can work on
a recording.

I can probably speed things up by including an orbit model in the modem
to predict Doppler open-loop, but this will take time to implement and
it will still be vulnerable to small errors in the elements and/or your
clock, especially around closest approach. So record the date and time
of your recordings and the current eleset at that time.



For those who have not noted this feature, HDSDR will open a recording
scheduler if you right click on the 'record' button. It saves files
with UTC time appended. The tricky part is that you have to set the
scheduler manually in local time.

I've been thinking it would be a nifty hack to make a FCD recorder for
a set of satellites using a very small computer, like the BeagleBoard.
It seems to me that a daily cron job with 'Predict' would just about
do what was necessary, especially now that we have a commandline tool
for the FCD. The only part that would take some fiddling would be
piping the USB sound card into a file with the proper headers for
HDSDR.

73, Bruce VE9QRP



I have to agree that HDSDR's recording scheduler is a really neat  
feature.  However, two improvements that I believe can make this even  
better will be:


1. Although HDSDR can 'start' the receiving based on the start time of  
a scheduler record, it only stops the recording at the end time of the  
scheduler.  It does not 'stop' the receiving - which will be good to  
save CPU resources if the SDR is used in an automated unattended  
satellite tracking station that has the PC shared with other stuff.


2. The need to set the scheduler manually could be eliminated if HDSDR  
can make use of DDE output of satellite tracking software.  For  
example, in my station I use WISP + WISPDDE for antenna tracking while  
the FCD is controlled by DK3WN's FCD control software.


If HDSDR could use the DDE output of WISP, it can start recording when  
a satellite name appears, and stop when '*** NO Satellite ***' appears.


These are just some of my thoughts to make automatic unattended  
reception easier, but I must say that DK3WN's FCD control + HDSDR are  
really great pieces of software.  Thank you to all those involved in  
their development :)


73, Sion, 9M2CQC




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[amsat-bb] TLM Data captured EN50LM 3:14UTC on 8-15-2011

2011-08-14 Thread Josh Golladay
Received in Normal, IL Grid square EN50LM at 03:14 UTC 8-15-2011

MET = 69 MINUTES
IHU Temp = +45
Control Panel Temp = +50
Battery Voltage = 35.77V
Battery Current is -4ma
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[amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 Battery

2011-08-14 Thread Jim Jerzycke

Kind of a 2011 version of AO-7, but without the stable orbit!

73, Jim  KQ6EA

On 08/14/2011 10:18 PM, Anthony Monteiro wrote:

Dear Friends,

This is speculation but it looks to me like we
have had a bit of good luck regarding the battery.

Looking at the battery voltage from deployment on...

Up until Aug 11, the battery seems to be deteriorating
normally with a slight downtrend in the max voltage
as expected. But on Aug 11, the battery voltage
suddenly rises up to 36 V max and the satellite
has started resetting in eclipse.

I think the explanation is that the battery experienced a
significant event on Aug 11 where it lost the electrolyte
in one or more cells. If this is true, the bad news is
that it will no longer hold a charge and will not operate
in eclipse any more.

But the good news is that without electrolyte,
it would also stop dendrite growth that causes
the eventual battery short circuit.

In our ground testing, our test battery failed in the
usual way with the battery load increasing until the
solar panels could not drive the power bus high enough to
run the satellite. But interestingly, several cells also
cracked and dumped their electrolyte during this testing.

If a cell on the flight battery cracked and dumped its
electrolyte BEFORE the shorts were formed, it should
stay that way and the satellite may very well continue
to operate in the sun until it starts to re-enter. We just
need some luck to avoid a bad solar angle that would cause a
reset in sunlight.

Keep your fingers crossed! :)

73,
Tony AA2TX



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[amsat-bb] Voice Telemetry just at going eclipse

2011-08-14 Thread fohuchi
Dear Sir,

Attached are telemetry on FM voice for your study.
During telemetry announcement, FM signal sttoped, maybe due to battery voltage 
down.

August 14, 2011 at 1049 UTC, Telemetry on FM voice, just after AOS
MET is ?? minutes (I could not copy with QSB/Noise)
IHU Temp is plus ?? degrees C (I could not copy with QSB/Noise)
Control Panel Temp is plus 61 degrees C
Battery Voltage is 36.014
Battery Current is minus 4 milliAmps 

August 14, 2011 at 1051 UTC, Telemetry on FM voice 
MET is 69 minutes
IHU Temp is plus 48 degrees C
Control Panel Temp is plus 61 degrees C
Battery Voltage is 36.014
Battery Current is minus 8 milliAmps 

August 14, 2011 at 1053 UTC, Telemetry on FM voice 
MET is 72 minutes
IHU Temp is plus 48 degrees C
Control Panel Temp is plus 6? degrees C
Battery Voltage is 31.  

FM carrier stopped just at this point, after announcement of battery voltage 
drop down to 31 V. It is not LOS yet.
Not calculated, but orbit prediction of this pass is VVN. Satellite goes into 
eclipse during this pass. I think ARISSAT1 lost solar panel power and stopped 
soon.

I wish this data helps you.
Thank you,
Fujio JO1XWH

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[amsat-bb] Re: Arissat transponder active over Europe.

2011-08-14 Thread Jim Cameron KC9PXZ

Hi,

I have a question, I don't have a SSB rig so I am FM only, wish I could 
decode telemetry and CW that would be a blast! but as I understand I can't 
with just FM, or am I wrong?  thats OK its a good reson to talk the XYL into 
letting me buy another radio. Hi Hi.

So here is how I am set up.
1.I have my IC28H interfaced to recieve, working on the transmit. with my 
diemound 510 vert at 50 ft. The rig i tuned to 145.950 MHZ.
2.  I use AMsat Predict to track, I am going to go to a program I can track 
more than one bird at a time with. The nice thing about HRD is the count 
down to the pass with computer voice, Last I checked HRD was not able to 
track ARISSsat1.
3. The tracking program runs in the back ground, I am running MMSSTV for 
SSTV from ARRISsat1 and its running in the back ground as well
4. I use a program called scanner recorder to record the Audio of the pass. 
you can do this with MMSSTV to but you have to do it manuailly. With scanner 
recorder once you set it up to record it will do it on its own.


So here is my question, I do get the voice telemetry in the message giving 
the stats on the bird. If I send this in does it count for a voice contact? 
or just the secret word? On the secret word contest can you enter each time 
you hear it,  or one of them even if its the same word  you already logged 
or only if there diffrent from what you have already logged? hope that makes 
sence.


Also I am confused, Eric, said 
Since I was listening with a FCD I saw activity on the transponder also.
heard EA1JM calling cq.  On ARRISSsat1? Live? i did not think we were able 
to contact each other vie ARISSsat1? I guess that part really confussed me, 
Eric can you be a little clearer for at the vary least me, if you would 
please? Thank you.


thanks for taking the time to read my post,

73
KC9PXZ
Jimmy
En43qt
Norwalk, Wisconsin

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Knaps, ON4HF on...@telenet.be

To: Amsat - BBS amsat-bb@amsat.org
Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2011 4:18 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Arissat transponder active over Europe.



Hello,

I was listening to a 21:05 utc pass over Europe and got a nice sstv 
picture and voice telemetry in full power mode. Since I was listening with 
a FCD I saw activity on the transponder also.

I heard EA1JM calling cq.
As soon as it went in eclipse I heard nothing anymore untill LOS.

73,
Eric.

--
Amateur Radio Station ON4HF
Eric Knaps
Satellite manager UBA

Tel. +32472985876 (mobile)

http://www.on4hf.be


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[amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Telemetry

2011-08-14 Thread Greg D.

I caught two sets of voice telemetry on the 04:44z pass over Northern 
California:



MET = 64

IHU temp = 41c

Control panel temp = 42c

Battery voltage = 35.73v

Current = -20ma



MET =69

IHU temp = 40c


Control panel temp = 42c


Battery voltage = 35.74v


Current = +0ma

Looks like the temperature situation has improved considerably.

I also heard the secret word, but it was different than the last time (a few 
days ago).  Is there more than one per language (both were in English)?

Greg  KO6TH


  
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