[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace Search Results

[John Wilde]

because some of them have been tampered with trust me. I'm trying to help 
the staff fix the problem, just be careful when ya download scan it before 
you play it. just lookin out for fellow googlers:)

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace Search Results

[JonFHancock]

Most definitely.  And we are not alone.
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=1e575cf9e437736c


Try this one for kicks.  Search for theme.  Then search for Theme.
You will get entirely different results based only on the capital T.

I've lost a lot of sales over it.  I'm down about $500 from my budget
so far.

I've contacted a Market product manager who I met at Google I/O to
voice my concerns.  We'll see if anything comes of it.  I suspect
he'll say "we're changing the search algorithm, and you'll have to
wait until it learns what is relevant."


On Jul 10, 11:32 am, TreKing  wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Chris  wrote:
> > Anyone else spotted this ?
>
> Yup.
>
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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace update?

[Zsolt Vasvari]

It's typically pretty fast.  Clear the Android Market app's cache and
data and let it reload the app.

On Jun 2, 6:28 pm, eUKhost  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> If i update the screenshots or featured image etc. in the devloper
> area how long does it take for this to show in the Android Marketplace
> for users to view?
>
> I've done so a couple hours ago and even though in developers area i
> can view the new images its not shown in market place :(
>
> Any help much appreciated?

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace Migration Path

[Tomáš Hubálek]

Jordan,

this is IMHO technically impossible or at least it does not make sense
and my be even illegal. What about licenses?

Tom

On 18 čvn, 23:47, Jordan  wrote:
> As with any software it would be benficial to have an easy migration
> path from the main competitor in the landscape.
>
> Create an iphone/ipod to Android App migration tool. The android app
> marketplace could build a migration app or tool that allowed you to
> interrogate your itunes apps and give you a translation to the
> comparable Android apps on the android market that do the same thing.

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace - No App Icon or Images?

[snctln]

Currently the market does not allow for screenshots.  The icon that is
specified in your manifest xml is shown to the user next to the
application name in the market.

I always put my website in the app description just in case someone
wants to go check it out and see screenshots of the app on my website
before they decide to download my apps.  Since there is no way to make
a clickable link in the app description at the moment it relies on
people actually remembering my web address, but hopefully it counts
for something.

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On Feb 14, 4:19 pm, themagazine  wrote:
> I don't see a place to upload an app icon or photos.
> Is there now way for users to see screens of your app before they buy
> it?
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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Stoyan Damov]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:10 AM, eags  wrote:
>
> - I've heard that people who are unlocking their G1 phones to use on
> ATT can't access the marketplace.

I've used Marketplace without any problem on my unlocked G1 in Bulgaria! ;)

Cheers

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[andy_techead]

I hate to interrupt but I thought many of you would be interested in
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These are full time positions and H1 Visa candidates are welcome to
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We are looking for great people with Java, J2ee, strong J2ME and we
really want Programmers or Developers with Google Android exposure.
If you have flash or flashlight experience that would be beneficial
but its not required.  Send your resume to a...@techead.com for a
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On Jan 5, 4:10 am, eags  wrote:
> I'm curious what the deal is with the Android Marketplace.  It seems
> like:
>
> - You can't browse it or download apk files in the marketplace from a
> desktop computer.  Just previews of a few apps.
> - Marketplace is not installed in the emulator in the sdk
> - Can't find anything on how to install it
> - I've heard that people who are unlocking their G1 phones to use on
> ATT can't access the marketplace.
>
> All of these points could be confusion on my part as a newbie to the
> Android development world.
>
> So if these points are really correct could someone please explain why
> all the restrictions and/or point me toward some documentation
> regarding the reason and policies?
>
> If I'm wrong can someone please explaine a)Where can I browse the
> marketplace from a normal desktop and b)where can I get and apk I can
> install in the emulator to browse the marketplace.
>
> Thanks.

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Shane Isbell]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:04 PM, eags  wrote:

>
> I can't think of any examples of google being "rutheless".  Effective
> and aggressive yes, but ruthless to me implies mean and dirty which
> doesn't really jibe with my take on google's actions in the past.

Google lowering the rank or removing the entry entirely of products or
services that could be considered competitive - to some this is dirty, to
others it is effective.

Shane

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Shane Isbell]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 12:02 PM, Disconnect  wrote:

> How many payment accounts would you like the average developer to register
> for?
>
This could still have one centralized payment to developers. I'm talking
about billing the user through carrier systems
.

> So far we have announcements/releases from T-mobile (in multiple countries,
> so multiplied out), and Sprint, but hardware coming from 7 different vendors
> (including Kogan and HTC, not including moko).  So that sounds like at least
> 5-7 different carriers, in a dozen or more countries.  [ref:wikipedia, so
> take it with however much salt you like..]

One Android market on 5-7 different carriers, all controlled by Google, all
billing handled by Google. I'd call that control of the mobile content
distribution channel.

>
>
> Apple solved this the easy way - sign up to get paid through their existing
> iTunes distribution channels, and you can sell in various markets.  How
> would you have google solve this if they were using the potentially-dozens
> of carrier systems?  (Yes, right now they are country-limited. And thats a
> PITA. But their stated goal still seems to be centralized worldwide sales..)

There are many aggregator services that do this. And I'm pretty sure that
hooking into carrier systems (and I know carriers are a pain to deal with)
would have been easier than trying to roll out your own global billing
system. And from a user's perspective, they wouldn't have had to enter in
any credit card info, much easier for them as well.

Shane

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[eags]

I can't think of any examples of google being "rutheless".  Effective
and aggressive yes, but ruthless to me implies mean and dirty which
doesn't really jibe with my take on google's actions in the past.  The
800 pound gorilla didn't get huge the way Microsoft did, they got huge
by providing superior and well integrated services for free in a way
that endeared their users to them (like unobtrusive advertising)
versus MS whose approach was more like kill competition and lock in
customers, making them hate us but have no options.

I'd be more likely to believe they just simply messed up here or
didn't foresee some difficulties they are having in putting together
an open app store like they'd like.  My guess is a combination of 1)
they just didn't finish it in time and didn't realize the
fragmentation that would result and b)T-Mobile and others are playing
hard ball to push their proprietary/closed way of doing business and
google has been forced to make some concessions.


On Jan 5, 11:47 am, "Shane Isbell"  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Al Sutton  wrote:
>
> > Disconnect wrote:
> > > You realize they could have simply disabled the third-party-installer
> > > option, right? (Or not written one to begin with.)  They are far more
> > > than an application vendor in this space, and if they really wanted to
> > > "control the distribution channel for mobile content" they could have.
> > > (Also, that "big chunk of revenue" is completely spelled out, and the
> > > fingers get pointed at the carriers, not at google. Its the price of
> > > getting to be part of the out of box image.)
>
> > They'd have had a hard time explaining disabling third party installers
> > on a system they describe as "open" (See point 1 on the OHA web page
> >http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/android_overview.html). It's bad
> > enough Market uses APIs which aren't available to third party apps, but
> > to 3rd party installers all together would have handed the anti-android
> > camp a huge amount of ammo in terms of "This openness you speak of, and
> > the dislike of the Apple App stores closed policies, how does that
> > differ from your plans exactly?".
>
> Yep, Google had to play the openness card. It gets them in the door, on a
> "level" playing field. It's now time for them to compete and I expect this
> 800 pound Gorilla to be ruthless about it (otherwise it wouldn't have
> reached its substantial size). Google could have just hooked up to a carrier
> billing system and been offering paid applications last October, but they
> didn't. They would have been dependent on the carrier. Instead they are
> slowing building out Google Checkout, slowly rolling out paid features for
> the Android Market, slowly preparing to control the distribution channel, if
> they can.
>
> Shane
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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Disconnect]

How many payment accounts would you like the average developer to register
for? So far we have announcements/releases from T-mobile (in multiple
countries, so multiplied out), and Sprint, but hardware coming from 7
different vendors (including Kogan and HTC, not including moko).  So that
sounds like at least 5-7 different carriers, in a dozen or more countries.
[ref:wikipedia, so take it with however much salt you like..]

Apple solved this the easy way - sign up to get paid through their existing
iTunes distribution channels, and you can sell in various markets.  How
would you have google solve this if they were using the potentially-dozens
of carrier systems?  (Yes, right now they are country-limited. And thats a
PITA. But their stated goal still seems to be centralized worldwide sales..)

And one thing I forgot earlier - according to the ToS, you get magic
unbreakable copy protection free. (..we'll see. But that's what they say.)

I don't see a different, realistic way it could have been done. But I'm open
to ideas..

(And as far as the API bits, on the one hand it was rushed out the door. On
the other hand.. well.. anyone who gets deep into an open source project
without making licensing/removal of incompatible code a priority has fallen
off the porch one time too many. And to get so far as to -ship- it that
way... sigh. With market specifically, I know - from the devs mouth's
themselves - they are working to level the playing field there.)

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Shane Isbell  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Al Sutton  wrote:
>
>>
>> Disconnect wrote:
>> > You realize they could have simply disabled the third-party-installer
>> > option, right? (Or not written one to begin with.)  They are far more
>> > than an application vendor in this space, and if they really wanted to
>> > "control the distribution channel for mobile content" they could have.
>> > (Also, that "big chunk of revenue" is completely spelled out, and the
>> > fingers get pointed at the carriers, not at google. Its the price of
>> > getting to be part of the out of box image.)
>> >
>> They'd have had a hard time explaining disabling third party installers
>> on a system they describe as "open" (See point 1 on the OHA web page
>> http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/android_overview.html). It's bad
>> enough Market uses APIs which aren't available to third party apps, but
>> to 3rd party installers all together would have handed the anti-android
>> camp a huge amount of ammo in terms of "This openness you speak of, and
>> the dislike of the Apple App stores closed policies, how does that
>> differ from your plans exactly?".
>
>
> Yep, Google had to play the openness card. It gets them in the door, on a
> "level" playing field. It's now time for them to compete and I expect this
> 800 pound Gorilla to be ruthless about it (otherwise it wouldn't have
> reached its substantial size). Google could have just hooked up to a carrier
> billing system and been offering paid applications last October, but they
> didn't. They would have been dependent on the carrier. Instead they are
> slowing building out Google Checkout, slowly rolling out paid features for
> the Android Market, slowly preparing to control the distribution channel, if
> they can.
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Shane Isbell]

No arguments here. This is not an evil plot, just good, old-fashioned
competition, which of course involves a fair amount of jumping up and down,
when stomping doesn't agree with one's size.

Shane

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Disconnect  wrote:

> Owned a commodity (j2me) tmobile phone recently? Non-tmobile-sourced j2me
> apps (unsigned, for those playing along at home, and tmob holds the keys)
> are prevented from accessing the net. (Right. No gmail.jad, no gmaps, no
> im+, nothing more connected than solitare.)  Even non-subsidized versions
> are sold that way.
>
> (And .. um.. not to point out the obvious.. but remind me how many places
> can sell iphone apps these days?)
>
> Tmobile and other carriers get the majority of the 'missing' money
> (although if you put me on the spot by asking for my reference I'd have to
> do some more digging to find it again.)
>
> And the various non-compete clauses are similar - what good is it to claim
> 20% for the carrier if devs just use a paypal link instead? All the "work"
> (and I'll admit they don't seem to have done much.. esp comments..) and none
> of the reward. (Same reasoning applies to not listing alternative markets.)
>
> Is it unpleasant? Sure, in some ways. But its not some evil plot, its
> simply the passed-on cost of being shipped on a device. (I'd maintain that,
> personally, the $25 pay-to-play is more unpleasant, even though its
> potentially - hopefully? - less money overall. Esp when used as a gatekeeper
> on the list of ADP1 shipping prices. But that's just me..)
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Shane Isbell wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Disconnect wrote:
>>
>>> You realize they could have simply disabled the third-party-installer
>>> option, right? (Or not written one to begin with.)  They are far more than
>>> an application vendor in this space, and if they really wanted to "control
>>> the distribution channel for mobile content" they could have.
>>
>> No they couldn't have. This shows a lack of understanding of the mobile
>> industry on your part. The carriers could have just told Google: "Tough
>> luck, go find another market to play in." Carriers would not have allowed
>> Google to enter, if they thought Google would lock down and control
>> everything. The openness of Android is some type of assurance against this.
>>
>> Shane
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Shane Isbell]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Al Sutton  wrote:

>
> Disconnect wrote:
> > You realize they could have simply disabled the third-party-installer
> > option, right? (Or not written one to begin with.)  They are far more
> > than an application vendor in this space, and if they really wanted to
> > "control the distribution channel for mobile content" they could have.
> > (Also, that "big chunk of revenue" is completely spelled out, and the
> > fingers get pointed at the carriers, not at google. Its the price of
> > getting to be part of the out of box image.)
> >
> They'd have had a hard time explaining disabling third party installers
> on a system they describe as "open" (See point 1 on the OHA web page
> http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/android_overview.html). It's bad
> enough Market uses APIs which aren't available to third party apps, but
> to 3rd party installers all together would have handed the anti-android
> camp a huge amount of ammo in terms of "This openness you speak of, and
> the dislike of the Apple App stores closed policies, how does that
> differ from your plans exactly?".


Yep, Google had to play the openness card. It gets them in the door, on a
"level" playing field. It's now time for them to compete and I expect this
800 pound Gorilla to be ruthless about it (otherwise it wouldn't have
reached its substantial size). Google could have just hooked up to a carrier
billing system and been offering paid applications last October, but they
didn't. They would have been dependent on the carrier. Instead they are
slowing building out Google Checkout, slowly rolling out paid features for
the Android Market, slowly preparing to control the distribution channel, if
they can.

Shane

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Disconnect]

Owned a commodity (j2me) tmobile phone recently? Non-tmobile-sourced j2me
apps (unsigned, for those playing along at home, and tmob holds the keys)
are prevented from accessing the net. (Right. No gmail.jad, no gmaps, no
im+, nothing more connected than solitare.)  Even non-subsidized versions
are sold that way.

(And .. um.. not to point out the obvious.. but remind me how many places
can sell iphone apps these days?)

Tmobile and other carriers get the majority of the 'missing' money (although
if you put me on the spot by asking for my reference I'd have to do some
more digging to find it again.)

And the various non-compete clauses are similar - what good is it to claim
20% for the carrier if devs just use a paypal link instead? All the "work"
(and I'll admit they don't seem to have done much.. esp comments..) and none
of the reward. (Same reasoning applies to not listing alternative markets.)

Is it unpleasant? Sure, in some ways. But its not some evil plot, its simply
the passed-on cost of being shipped on a device. (I'd maintain that,
personally, the $25 pay-to-play is more unpleasant, even though its
potentially - hopefully? - less money overall. Esp when used as a gatekeeper
on the list of ADP1 shipping prices. But that's just me..)

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, Shane Isbell  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Disconnect wrote:
>
>> You realize they could have simply disabled the third-party-installer
>> option, right? (Or not written one to begin with.)  They are far more than
>> an application vendor in this space, and if they really wanted to "control
>> the distribution channel for mobile content" they could have.
>
> No they couldn't have. This shows a lack of understanding of the mobile
> industry on your part. The carriers could have just told Google: "Tough
> luck, go find another market to play in." Carriers would not have allowed
> Google to enter, if they thought Google would lock down and control
> everything. The openness of Android is some type of assurance against this.
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Al Sutton]

Disconnect wrote:
> You realize they could have simply disabled the third-party-installer 
> option, right? (Or not written one to begin with.)  They are far more 
> than an application vendor in this space, and if they really wanted to 
> "control the distribution channel for mobile content" they could have. 
> (Also, that "big chunk of revenue" is completely spelled out, and the 
> fingers get pointed at the carriers, not at google. Its the price of 
> getting to be part of the out of box image.)
>
They'd have had a hard time explaining disabling third party installers 
on a system they describe as "open" (See point 1 on the OHA web page 
http://www.openhandsetalliance.com/android_overview.html). It's bad 
enough Market uses APIs which aren't available to third party apps, but 
to 3rd party installers all together would have handed the anti-android 
camp a huge amount of ammo in terms of "This openness you speak of, and 
the dislike of the Apple App stores closed policies, how does that 
differ from your plans exactly?".

As I've said before I'm pretty sure the carriers saw the apple app 
stores 30% slice and thought "We'll have some of that". We'd let the 
AndAppStore would let any distribution creator take whatever slice they 
wanted if they wanted to bundle our client in their distribution, it's 
their distribution, so it's their choice of how they want to treat 
developers on it.

> But its good to know you and Al will be here to jump up and down 
> advertising your respective services anytime a question mentions the 
> google market..
>

You betcha we will, how else are we going to get the kind of publicity 
for our services that Google get for free by bundling it with the G1? :)

Al

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Shane Isbell]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Disconnect  wrote:

> You realize they could have simply disabled the third-party-installer
> option, right? (Or not written one to begin with.)  They are far more than
> an application vendor in this space, and if they really wanted to "control
> the distribution channel for mobile content" they could have.

No they couldn't have. This shows a lack of understanding of the mobile
industry on your part. The carriers could have just told Google: "Tough
luck, go find another market to play in." Carriers would not have allowed
Google to enter, if they thought Google would lock down and control
everything. The openness of Android is some type of assurance against this.

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Disconnect]

You realize they could have simply disabled the third-party-installer
option, right? (Or not written one to begin with.)  They are far more than
an application vendor in this space, and if they really wanted to "control
the distribution channel for mobile content" they could have. (Also, that
"big chunk of revenue" is completely spelled out, and the fingers get
pointed at the carriers, not at google. Its the price of getting to be part
of the out of box image.)

But its good to know you and Al will be here to jump up and down advertising
your respective services anytime a question mentions the google market..

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Shane Isbell  wrote:

> It's pretty clear that Google wants to control the distribution channel for
> mobile content. Fortunately, Android is open enough that other smaller
> players can enter the market. In fact SlideME Marketplace has been around a
> lot longer than the Android Marketplace. My expectation is that Google is
> going to be a ruthless in trying to knock out competition, so the
> fragmentation may not be as bad as you suggest.
>
> When we started out on the SAM client and SlideME over a year ago, we fully
> expected that Google Market would be tightly controlled and that there would
> be a big chunk of revenue taken out of the developer's pocket. They haven't
> disappointed. Our strategy has been to focus on openness and maximum payout
> to the developer and it is working pretty well for us and the developers.
>
> Also Google is making obvious mistakes that an experienced mobile player
> wouldn't make, both in terms of the Android Marketplace design, as well as
> the client. Now that we have the billing issue cracked, you'll see a
> widening gap between SlideME Marketplace and Android Market (in what I
> believe will be our favor). We've put in a lot of groundwork that we are
> just now starting to capitalize on. So a little fragmentation here is not so
> bad for the developer or the user.
>
> Shane
>
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Shane Isbell]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:39 AM, eags  wrote:

>
> That is a real shame that they have decided to do that.  What we are
> seeing with the major fragmentation of places to get android apps from
> is the result and will get worse if this policy continues.  Once we go
> beyond a certain point people will be used to it and the fragmentation
> will be almost impossible to repair.  The term "marketplace" and
> google's "all apps are created equal" mantra for Android both suggest
> an open and collaborative environment which is exactly what this is
> not.

It's pretty clear that Google wants to control the distribution channel for
mobile content. Fortunately, Android is open enough that other smaller
players can enter the market. In fact SlideME Marketplace has been around a
lot longer than the Android Marketplace. My expectation is that Google is
going to be a ruthless in trying to knock out competition, so the
fragmentation may not be as bad as you suggest.

When we started out on the SAM client and SlideME over a year ago, we fully
expected that Google Market would be tightly controlled and that there would
be a big chunk of revenue taken out of the developer's pocket. They haven't
disappointed. Our strategy has been to focus on openness and maximum payout
to the developer and it is working pretty well for us and the developers.

Also Google is making obvious mistakes that an experienced mobile player
wouldn't make, both in terms of the Android Marketplace design, as well as
the client. Now that we have the billing issue cracked, you'll see a
widening gap between SlideME Marketplace and Android Market (in what I
believe will be our favor). We've put in a lot of groundwork that we are
just now starting to capitalize on. So a little fragmentation here is not so
bad for the developer or the user.

Shane

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Dan Dumont]

It may very well become what you say...it's just not there yet(tm)...

I hope they put some effort into at least putting the app in the
emulator...
I'd really like to be able to see what kinds of apps are out there.

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:39 PM, eags  wrote:

>
> That is a real shame that they have decided to do that.  What we are
> seeing with the major fragmentation of places to get android apps from
> is the result and will get worse if this policy continues.  Once we go
> beyond a certain point people will be used to it and the fragmentation
> will be almost impossible to repair.  The term "marketplace" and
> google's "all apps are created equal" mantra for Android both suggest
> an open and collaborative environment which is exactly what this is
> not.  Really a shame.  I was hoping for something like Youtube's
> interface for browsing, rating, commenting on apps and purchasing.
>
>
> On Jan 5, 10:33 am, "Shane Isbell"  wrote:
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Dan Dumont  wrote:
> > > I think the point of his post was that he wants to browse THE
> marketplace,
> > > not andappstore's marketplace...
> >
> > > I'd like to know how as well.
> >
> > Google does not currently allow browsing of applications from the web. My
> > understanding is that they have this feature in the works. There is one
> site
> > out there that has managed to obtain all of the Android Market catalog,
> > including comments. This is against Google's terms, so I won't name them
> > here.
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Al Sutton 
> wrote:
> >
> > >> Marketplace is a closed source app that Google is in control of and
> > >> developing it as it sees fit.
> >
> > >> There are other alternatives that allow you to brows apps from your
> > >> destop, download apks, etc., etc., if you'd like to try one you can
> take
> > >> a look athttp://andappstore.com/
> >
> > >> Al.
> >
> > >> eags wrote:
> > >> > I'm curious what the deal is with the Android Marketplace.  It seems
> > >> > like:
> >
> > >> > - You can't browse it or download apk files in the marketplace from
> a
> > >> > desktop computer.  Just previews of a few apps.
> > >> > - Marketplace is not installed in the emulator in the sdk
> > >> > - Can't find anything on how to install it
> > >> > - I've heard that people who are unlocking their G1 phones to use on
> > >> > ATT can't access the marketplace.
> >
> > >> > All of these points could be confusion on my part as a newbie to the
> > >> > Android development world.
> >
> > >> > So if these points are really correct could someone please explain
> why
> > >> > all the restrictions and/or point me toward some documentation
> > >> > regarding the reason and policies?
> >
> > >> > If I'm wrong can someone please explaine a)Where can I browse the
> > >> > marketplace from a normal desktop and b)where can I get and apk I
> can
> > >> > install in the emulator to browse the marketplace.
> >
> > >> > Thanks.
> >
> > >> --
> > >> ==
> > >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the>>
> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> > >> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
> >
> > >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> > >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> > >> subsidiaries.
> >
> >
> >
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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[eags]

That is a real shame that they have decided to do that.  What we are
seeing with the major fragmentation of places to get android apps from
is the result and will get worse if this policy continues.  Once we go
beyond a certain point people will be used to it and the fragmentation
will be almost impossible to repair.  The term "marketplace" and
google's "all apps are created equal" mantra for Android both suggest
an open and collaborative environment which is exactly what this is
not.  Really a shame.  I was hoping for something like Youtube's
interface for browsing, rating, commenting on apps and purchasing.


On Jan 5, 10:33 am, "Shane Isbell"  wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Dan Dumont  wrote:
> > I think the point of his post was that he wants to browse THE marketplace,
> > not andappstore's marketplace...
>
> > I'd like to know how as well.
>
> Google does not currently allow browsing of applications from the web. My
> understanding is that they have this feature in the works. There is one site
> out there that has managed to obtain all of the Android Market catalog,
> including comments. This is against Google's terms, so I won't name them
> here.
>
> Shane
>
>
>
> > On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Al Sutton  wrote:
>
> >> Marketplace is a closed source app that Google is in control of and
> >> developing it as it sees fit.
>
> >> There are other alternatives that allow you to brows apps from your
> >> destop, download apks, etc., etc., if you'd like to try one you can take
> >> a look athttp://andappstore.com/
>
> >> Al.
>
> >> eags wrote:
> >> > I'm curious what the deal is with the Android Marketplace.  It seems
> >> > like:
>
> >> > - You can't browse it or download apk files in the marketplace from a
> >> > desktop computer.  Just previews of a few apps.
> >> > - Marketplace is not installed in the emulator in the sdk
> >> > - Can't find anything on how to install it
> >> > - I've heard that people who are unlocking their G1 phones to use on
> >> > ATT can't access the marketplace.
>
> >> > All of these points could be confusion on my part as a newbie to the
> >> > Android development world.
>
> >> > So if these points are really correct could someone please explain why
> >> > all the restrictions and/or point me toward some documentation
> >> > regarding the reason and policies?
>
> >> > If I'm wrong can someone please explaine a)Where can I browse the
> >> > marketplace from a normal desktop and b)where can I get and apk I can
> >> > install in the emulator to browse the marketplace.
>
> >> > Thanks.
>
> >> --
> >> ==
> >> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the>> company 
> >> number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> >> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> >> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> >> subsidiaries.
>
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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Shane Isbell]

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 10:11 AM, Dan Dumont  wrote:

> I think the point of his post was that he wants to browse THE marketplace,
> not andappstore's marketplace...
>
> I'd like to know how as well.
>
Google does not currently allow browsing of applications from the web. My
understanding is that they have this feature in the works. There is one site
out there that has managed to obtain all of the Android Market catalog,
including comments. This is against Google's terms, so I won't name them
here.

Shane


>
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Al Sutton  wrote:
>
>>
>> Marketplace is a closed source app that Google is in control of and
>> developing it as it sees fit.
>>
>> There are other alternatives that allow you to brows apps from your
>> destop, download apks, etc., etc., if you'd like to try one you can take
>> a look at http://andappstore.com/
>>
>> Al.
>>
>> eags wrote:
>> > I'm curious what the deal is with the Android Marketplace.  It seems
>> > like:
>> >
>> > - You can't browse it or download apk files in the marketplace from a
>> > desktop computer.  Just previews of a few apps.
>> > - Marketplace is not installed in the emulator in the sdk
>> > - Can't find anything on how to install it
>> > - I've heard that people who are unlocking their G1 phones to use on
>> > ATT can't access the marketplace.
>> >
>> > All of these points could be confusion on my part as a newbie to the
>> > Android development world.
>> >
>> > So if these points are really correct could someone please explain why
>> > all the restrictions and/or point me toward some documentation
>> > regarding the reason and policies?
>> >
>> > If I'm wrong can someone please explaine a)Where can I browse the
>> > marketplace from a normal desktop and b)where can I get and apk I can
>> > install in the emulator to browse the marketplace.
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>> ==
>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>>
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>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
>> subsidiaries.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Dan Dumont]

I think the point of his post was that he wants to browse THE marketplace,
not andappstore's marketplace...

I'd like to know how as well.


On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Al Sutton  wrote:

>
> Marketplace is a closed source app that Google is in control of and
> developing it as it sees fit.
>
> There are other alternatives that allow you to brows apps from your
> destop, download apks, etc., etc., if you'd like to try one you can take
> a look at http://andappstore.com/
>
> Al.
>
> eags wrote:
> > I'm curious what the deal is with the Android Marketplace.  It seems
> > like:
> >
> > - You can't browse it or download apk files in the marketplace from a
> > desktop computer.  Just previews of a few apps.
> > - Marketplace is not installed in the emulator in the sdk
> > - Can't find anything on how to install it
> > - I've heard that people who are unlocking their G1 phones to use on
> > ATT can't access the marketplace.
> >
> > All of these points could be confusion on my part as a newbie to the
> > Android development world.
> >
> > So if these points are really correct could someone please explain why
> > all the restrictions and/or point me toward some documentation
> > regarding the reason and policies?
> >
> > If I'm wrong can someone please explaine a)Where can I browse the
> > marketplace from a normal desktop and b)where can I get and apk I can
> > install in the emulator to browse the marketplace.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> ==
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>
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> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> subsidiaries.
>
>
> >
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[android-developers] Re: Android Marketplace?

[Al Sutton]

Marketplace is a closed source app that Google is in control of and 
developing it as it sees fit.

There are other alternatives that allow you to brows apps from your 
destop, download apks, etc., etc., if you'd like to try one you can take 
a look at http://andappstore.com/

Al.

eags wrote:
> I'm curious what the deal is with the Android Marketplace.  It seems
> like:
>
> - You can't browse it or download apk files in the marketplace from a
> desktop computer.  Just previews of a few apps.
> - Marketplace is not installed in the emulator in the sdk
> - Can't find anything on how to install it
> - I've heard that people who are unlocking their G1 phones to use on
> ATT can't access the marketplace.
>
> All of these points could be confusion on my part as a newbie to the
> Android development world.
>
> So if these points are really correct could someone please explain why
> all the restrictions and/or point me toward some documentation
> regarding the reason and policies?
>
> If I'm wrong can someone please explaine a)Where can I browse the
> marketplace from a normal desktop and b)where can I get and apk I can
> install in the emulator to browse the marketplace.
>
> Thanks.
>
> >
>   


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