[arr] A New song Composed by ARR for Swarnim Gujarat

2010-05-02 Thread Vithur
http://www.swarnimgujarat.org/index.aspx



-- 
regards,
Vithur


Re: [arr] Found this comment........anyone agree??

2010-05-02 Thread V S Rawat
I agree with his observation about deja vu. Yup, I also note that 
feeling of I have heard it somewhere, and, for me, that adds another 
plus point to the songs and the album that it is giving us glimpses of 
ARR's so many earlier compositions also.

He is absolutely write that such deja vu is In content, not in form. 
No song is an outright copy obviously, it could be use of same 
instruments or something that some music techy might explain.

I would like ARR to use same effect in future songs also that his new 
song do carry something from his older songs so that we revive our 
sweet memories of those earlier songs and get re-explore them.
--

And I fully DISAGREE with his comments
  whether this is one of
  ARR's best and whether it would receive the same acclaim if it
  wasn't an ARR score

My view is:

This one has all the ingredients and potential of turning out to be 
ARR's best. We all 18 years fans of ARR are loving it from the depth 
of our hearts. It is just that ARR has given so many great albums 
earlier that had stayed in our heart for a decade or more, that we 
fans are a tad cautious of replacing those favs by Raavan numbers in 
such a hurry, but I can feel that once we get more confident about 
raavan, that is what is going to happen.

2. And on his whether it would receive the same acclaim if it wasn't 
an ARR score. That must be his personal joke because no one else has 
capability to come up with such a score, so the point drops dud. :-)
--

ARR has done his deal in coming up with an stirring album. Now, the 
ball is in Mani's court to come up with a movie that measures up to 
the music. Hope it doesn't turn out like a D6 movie that didn't match 
up with the divine music by our man.

--
Rawat

On 5/1/2010 10:26 PM India Time, _AJ_ wrote:

 Here's a comment I found on the net about Raavan's music:

 Guys, without getting into the argument of whether this is one of
 ARR's best and whether it would receive the same acclaim if it
 wasn't an ARR score – didn't anyone else feel deja vu when
 listening to this album – every song I felt like `This one's like
 Kala Bandar', this one's like `Barso Re', this one's like `Rukmini'
 (in content, not in form) – of course ARR has a distinct sound and
 so some of it is to be expected but still, its getting a bit
 repetitive, me thinks

 I completely don't know where this guy is coming from.  Huh?  To
 me, the music of Raavan is completely original and fresh, sounding
 nothing (content wise) like his previous works.  Yes, his strong
 signatures are there and certain raagas have been used before as
 always, but does anyone else feel deja vu when listening to
 Raavan?  None of the melodies in Raavan bear resemblance to
 previous ARR songs and the song architecture and sound in each
 track is very unique and distinct..something very new and
 fresh.   It does not sound repetitive at all to
 me.WHATSOEVER!!!




Re: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread kishore parayath
Now our friends will start criticizing Bharadwaj Rangan. The SAME people who
praised him for VINNAI THAANDI VARUVAYA review!!


[arr] Hope ARR gives a longer Khili Rey in Tamil version

2010-05-02 Thread V S Rawat
The only fault of Khili Rey is: it is too short.

And that single fault has ruined the song for almost all fans.

the point is: ARR has given many-many similar great sweet lovely songs 
earlier across the decades, and those songs are etched in our 
memories. Had KHili Rey been longer, we would have enjoyed the feeling 
more and then we would have dared to call it as sweet as or even 
sweeter than ARR's earlier such song.

But when Khili Rey is so short, it leaves us unsatisfied, and we fans 
why bother listening to it when it is so short and will not fulfil our 
needs, and thus we undermine the song.

Otherwise, Khili Rey is in the league of ARR's sweetest songs.

It makes me sad that ARR puts so much efforts in coming up with such 
great music, tune and arrangement, and gives such a short song. this 
way, this tune gets locked in this song and ARR is not going to repeat 
it again and we miss a great song with such contents.

Hope ARR gives a longer Khili Rey in Tamil version so at to satisfy 
the full appetite of his fans, even if longer song is not accomodated 
in the film.

This way ARR gets to experiment on the different lengths of songs 
having different effect on its acceptability and popularity.

--
Rawat


[arr] ARRs Gujarat song available for download

2010-05-02 Thread Thulasi Ram
sounds like a nice feel good song. vocals of the lead singer is quite good
as well.

http://www.narendramodi.in/


Re: [arr] Re: Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread Gomzy™
I wonder why ARR bothers to take pains to create raavan/ D6 when his
fans can be satisfied with blue.

I wonder why some people bother to feel that his fans are satisfied with
blue. His fans are never satisfied. They just want more !

Some of neither have the time nor the energy to imbibe in a few adamant
souls in the group that they need to stop messing with what others like/
hate.


On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 11:54 PM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 5/1/2010 11:20 AM India Time, _Gomzy™_ wrote:

  When a composer can compose 2 different genres of music i fail to
  understand why cant the listener listen to various genres.

 I wonder why ARR bothers to take pains to create raavan/ D6 when his
 fans can be satisfied with blue.

 :-)

 Blue was peanut, Raavan is cashewnut.

 :-)

 Peanuts drive some species go nuts, cashewnuts drive some other
 species go nuts.

 :-)

 Humans love to eat cashewnuts more than peanuts but all can't afford
 to buy cashewnuts so most of us end up eating peanuts. That was the
 situation in 70s and 80s when ARR was not there to provide cashewnuts
 so we all were eating Anu malik's peanuts thinking they were the
 tastiest edibles in the world for our ears.

 Then ARR happened and he gave the first taste of cashewnuts to our
 ears. And we couldn't get satisfied with anything less ever since.

 :-)

 ARR did have provided peanuts instead of cashewnuts in some rare
 occasions.

 We love ARR so we will even eat poison if he gives us, let alone
 eating peanuts instead of cashewnuts if he provides them sometimes.

 The point is: When ARR is providing peanuts, real ARR fans would
 realize that it is peanuts and would still eat those peanuts saying
 that ARR provided us peanuts and we are eating peanuts.

 but, if any fan starts saying that those peanuts provided by ARR are
 not peanuts but are cashewnuts, such fans are just creating a hype.

 :-)

 --
 Rawat

  




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Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread Gomzy™
Dude,

Please reread all of Rawat's mails. Nobody has issues with anyone disliking
ARRs albums. Problem arises when he says that when he doesnt like an album,
and if someone does, its hype !

Please hate blue with all your heart ! Some of us dont care. Atleast let us
few souls who were able to understand the music with our pea sized brains
enjoy ! peace out.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 7:48 AM, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote:



 If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing about it.
 Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone saying
 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable.
 Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in
 hearing why blue doesn't work for someone.

 Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here?


 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ
 purev...@... wrote:
 
  Good point, Gomzy. Couldn't have said it better!
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote:
  
   The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album,
 they
   believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that
 maybe
   this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves
 first.
  
   On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:
  
   
   
Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members
are immersed in Raavan and praising it.
   
I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?
   
Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is
 not
just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly
songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper
differences.
   
I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was
 technically
great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to
weave the songs as a single fabric
   
On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a
underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a
single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly.
Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.
   
Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies
of ARR-Mani got discussed.
   
Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is
gold, back to the basics.
   
Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.
   
What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was
a technically great album having new types of sounds.
   
I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan,
but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds
 in
raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked
 about
that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down
in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about
music, about ARR's music.
   
Nobody has so far asked where is ARR's signature in Raavan, the way
we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we
all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan.
   
At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about
 people's
high expectations after his oscars.
   
I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people
 expectations
and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should
 forget
people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should
create what his heart says.
   
Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars to
 him.
   
Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention of
people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) now.
Raavan got released without a word from ARR.
   
And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums had
stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se.
   
I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's expectations
and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is back to become
pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in every beat of Raavan.
A creativity that has a soul, unlike the sheer technical creativity
 of
blue.
   
Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His music
explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening his music
when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when we are not in
 touch.
   
Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is an
album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover.
   
It can be said that ARR experimented a lot with Blue. And, an
experiment never fails. It just gives feedback about our theories,
confirming some, disproving some other. Seems ARR has taken that

Re: [arr] Usurae Pogudhey - Behene De Gujarat Day song

2010-05-02 Thread Thulasi Ram
OMG! more and more i hear this song, it rejuvenates me. karthik's vocals is
brilliant.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Srini Santhanam saint.si...@gmail.comwrote:



 Sung by Karthik - Preview now available on AR's Facebook page.

 Here's his message on Gujarat Day Song:

 It gives me immense pleasure to be commissioned by the Govt. of Gujarat to
 compose a song for the Gujarat Day celebrations. The song is called 'Jai Jai
 Garvi Gujarat' and has been written by noted writer Kavi Narmad. Other
 Gujarati writers on this song are Dilip Rawal, Ankit Trivedi, Sairam Dave 
 Chiragh Tripathi. The Hindi version has been written by Prasoon Joshi.The
 people of Gujarat are some of the nicest that I've come across whether in
 India or across the globe. Also, the fact that my wife is from Kutch, gave
 me additional impetus to compose this song. I sincerely hope this song helps
 people celebrate and come together as one. The film is being directed by my
 long term associate Bharatbala who has demonstrated his unique vision and
 I'm looking forward to the video.

  



Re: [arr] Re: Sonu singing for Rahman new movie?

2010-05-02 Thread Gomzy™
he talks about 2 diff things here.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:36 AM, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@yahoo.com wrote:



 But Rajneeti is not composed by ARR, I think it is Pritam, Shantanu and
 this guy Sharpe. but then what does he mean by the last sentence Still in
 the hangover.. Off to Rehman/Chennai!, anyone??

 /Jahanzeb

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 riyazeth riyaz...@... wrote:
 
  Sonu Tweets
 
  Recorded a divine song for Wayne Sharpe for Prakash Jha's Rajneeti..
 Still in the hangover.. Off to Rehman/Chennai!
 
  what movie is this for?
 
  RyAaZ
 

  




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[arr] Re: Found this comment........anyone agree??

2010-05-02 Thread Jahanzeb
Same here, these comments seems very weird as to me too Raavan music is 
completely original, no deja vu feelings, no resemblances. perhaps this guy is 
talking about contents/theme only and not music/composition, but still cannot 
agree.

/Jahanzeb


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote:

 Here's a comment I found on the net about Raavan's music:
 
 Guys, without getting into the argument of whether this is one of ARR's best 
 and whether it would receive the same acclaim if it wasn't an ARR score – 
 didn't anyone else feel deja vu when listening to this album – every song I 
 felt like `This one's like Kala Bandar', this one's like `Barso Re', this 
 one's like `Rukmini' (in content, not in form) – of course ARR has a distinct 
 sound and so some of it is to be expected but still, its getting a bit 
 repetitive, me thinks
 
 I completely don't know where this guy is coming from.  Huh?  To me, the 
 music of Raavan is completely original and fresh, sounding nothing (content 
 wise) like his previous works.  Yes, his strong signatures are there and 
 certain raagas have been used before as always, but does anyone else feel 
 deja vu when listening to Raavan?  None of the melodies in Raavan bear 
 resemblance to previous ARR songs and the song architecture and sound in each 
 track is very unique and distinct..something very new and fresh.   It 
 does not sound repetitive at all to me.WHATSOEVER!!!





Re: [arr] Re: Sonu singing for Rahman new movie?

2010-05-02 Thread mb4zap®
well, he did mention he was still at hangover.. :D


i THINK he is talking abt goin to ARR's AM Studio at Chennai coz may be Wayne 
is recording the songs there... (it's completely just a prediction..)





From: Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 2:06:13 AM
Subject: [arr] Re: Sonu singing for Rahman new movie?

  
But Rajneeti is not composed by ARR, I think it is Pritam, Shantanu and this 
guy Sharpe. but then what does he mean by the last sentence Still in the 
hangover.. Off to Rehman/Chennai! , anyone??

/Jahanzeb

--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, riyazeth riyaz...@.. . wrote:

 Sonu Tweets
 
 Recorded a divine song for Wayne Sharpe for Prakash Jha's Rajneeti.. Still 
 in the hangover.. Off to Rehman/Chennai! 
 
 what movie is this for?
 
 RyAaZ



 


  

Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread ravi
make yourself clear that we would have had the same respect if one would 
comment that himself did not like and album and would give it to the choice. 
But whats not appealing is the question why posed why somebody like both Raavan 
and Blue. Whats so wrong in Blue that those who liked both are been challenged?


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_naga...@... wrote:

 If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing about it. 
 Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone saying 
 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable. 
 Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in hearing 
 why blue doesn't work for someone.
 
 Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here?
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
 
  Good point, Gomzy.  Couldn't have said it better!
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote:
  
   The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they
   believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that 
   maybe
   this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves 
   first.
   
   On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:
   
   
   
Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members
are immersed in Raavan and praising it.
   
I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?
   
Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not
just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly
songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper
differences.
   
I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically
great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to
weave the songs as a single fabric
   
On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a
underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a
single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly.
Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.
   
Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies
of ARR-Mani got discussed.
   
Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is
gold, back to the basics.
   
Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.
   
What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was
a technically great album having new types of sounds.
   
I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan,
but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in
raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about
that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down
in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about
music, about ARR's music.
   
Nobody has so far asked where is ARR's signature in Raavan, the way
we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we
all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan.
   
At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's
high expectations after his oscars.
   
I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people expectations
and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should forget
people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should
create what his heart says.
   
Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars to him.
   
Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention of
people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) now.
Raavan got released without a word from ARR.
   
And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums had
stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se.
   
I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's expectations
and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is back to become
pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in every beat of Raavan.
A creativity that has a soul, unlike the sheer technical creativity of
blue.
   
Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His music
explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening his music
when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when we are not in 
touch.
   
Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is an
album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover.
   
It can be said that ARR experimented a lot with Blue. And, an
experiment never fails. It just gives feedback about our theories,
confirming some, disproving some other. Seems ARR has taken that
feedback of blue and has incorporated it in his style of composition
(not the blue style, but the 

Re: [arr] Re: 17 years on, Thiruda Thiruda is still the one to beat

2010-05-02 Thread A.R.Rajib
Dil se for me too ... but the Tamil Version Uyire ..may be a mix between
both version ..Like dil se  satrangi in tamil was better :-)

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@yahoo.com wrote:

 for me too, no album could and can ever top Dil Se.


 /Jahanzeb

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@... wrote:
 
  for me Dil Se tops everything :)
 
  On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 5:02 PM, AJ purev...@... wrote:
 
  
  
   For me, Dil Se tops Thiruda.
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
   jamshid TC jamshid_tc@ wrote:
   
Nice one :-)
   
--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Gomzyâ„¢ gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote:
   
   
From: Gomzyâ„¢ gomtesh.upadhye@
  
Subject: Re: [arr] 17 years on, Thiruda Thiruda is still the one to
 beat
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 6:33 AM
   
   
Â
   
   
   
THIRUDA THIRUDA CANNOT BE COMPARED WITH ANY ALBUM
   
   
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nadeem@
 yahoo.com
   wrote:
   
   
Â
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Ah! take that , thiruda thiruda is  forever , not a single day
 passes
   when i dont listen atleast a song from it and well thee thee is must
 every
   day. waiting for kishore words on the post.
Â
regards,
Â
Taimur
   
--- On Tue, 4/27/10, Sam samsing...@yahoo. com wrote:
   
   
From: Sam samsing...@yahoo. com
  
Subject: [arr] 17 years on, Thiruda Thiruda is still the one to beat
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 8:12 AM
   
   
   
Â
   
Amazing album that still remains fresh and gives me the goose bumps
 every
   time I hear.
   
Magical!
   
   
   
   
   
   
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[arr] Usure Pogude (Behene De) Tamil promo

2010-05-02 Thread Indmov Buff
Akkarai cheemayil nee irunthum, ai viral theendida nenekuthadi 

Vairamuthu!!! 


http://www.facebook.com/arrahman#!/arrahman?v=wallstory_fbid=389510951719


  

Re: [arr] Re: Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread mb4zap®
wow..! nice explanations.. :) and i agree fully with the peanut and cashewnut 
argument and that i will sip in even poison if ARR provides... :)






From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, May 2, 2010 12:24:29 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

  
On 5/1/2010 11:20 AM India Time, _Gomzy™_ wrote:

 When a composer can compose 2 different genres of music i fail to
 understand why cant the listener listen to various genres.

I wonder why ARR bothers to take pains to create raavan/ D6 when his 
fans can be satisfied with blue.

:-)

Blue was peanut, Raavan is cashewnut.

:-)

Peanuts drive some species go nuts, cashewnuts drive some other 
species go nuts.

:-)

Humans love to eat cashewnuts more than peanuts but all can't afford 
to buy cashewnuts so most of us end up eating peanuts. That was the 
situation in 70s and 80s when ARR was not there to provide cashewnuts 
so we all were eating Anu malik's peanuts thinking they were the 
tastiest edibles in the world for our ears.

Then ARR happened and he gave the first taste of cashewnuts to our 
ears. And we couldn't get satisfied with anything less ever since.

:-)

ARR did have provided peanuts instead of cashewnuts in some rare 
occasions.

We love ARR so we will even eat poison if he gives us, let alone 
eating peanuts instead of cashewnuts if he provides them sometimes.

The point is: When ARR is providing peanuts, real ARR fans would 
realize that it is peanuts and would still eat those peanuts saying 
that ARR provided us peanuts and we are eating peanuts.

but, if any fan starts saying that those peanuts provided by ARR are 
not peanuts but are cashewnuts, such fans are just creating a hype.

:-)

--
Rawat


 


  

[arr] Re: Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
I also disagree with this statement:

With Raavan, I couldn't shake off the disappointment that, despite all the 
evident effort, there is no solitary dazzler, no Aaromale, no Rehna tu, no 
Rehnuma (and that was un film de  Anthony D'Souza, for crying out loud).

Behene De is that dazzler!  Are you kidding me???  If you don't think Behene De 
is a dazzler, what more do you want???


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:

 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2010/05/01/between-reviews-head-games/





Re: [arr] Found this comment........anyone agree??

2010-05-02 Thread Thulasi Ram
the author talks about distinct sounds and i think he/she has totally got it
wrong.

behne de initial 50 secs will partially prove his claim wrong as the sound
is totally unique. beera has plenty of unique sounds. ranjha ranjha
anuradha's humming is quite unique i believe, kata kata interlude beats are
abundantly unique, khilii re interlude flute and beats with varying pace is
quite unique as well.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 5:56 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Here's a comment I found on the net about Raavan's music:

 Guys, without getting into the argument of whether this is one of ARR's
 best and whether it would receive the same acclaim if it wasn't an ARR score
 – didn't anyone else feel deja vu when listening to this album – every song
 I felt like `This one's like Kala Bandar', this one's like `Barso Re', this
 one's like `Rukmini' (in content, not in form) – of course ARR has a
 distinct sound and so some of it is to be expected but still, its getting a
 bit repetitive, me thinks

 I completely don't know where this guy is coming from. Huh? To me, the
 music of Raavan is completely original and fresh, sounding nothing (content
 wise) like his previous works. Yes, his strong signatures are there and
 certain raagas have been used before as always, but does anyone else feel
 deja vu when listening to Raavan? None of the melodies in Raavan bear
 resemblance to previous ARR songs and the song architecture and sound in
 each track is very unique and distinct..something very new and fresh. It
 does not sound repetitive at all to me.WHATSOEVER!!!

  



[arr] Re: Food Distribution this Sunday - Celebration for Our brothers

2010-05-02 Thread Vithur
Food Packets along with Gulab Jamun were distributed today to
celebrate the bdays. Jai Ho

On 5/1/10, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote:
 This Sunday, May 2nd, 2010 FD will be a dedication to our Brothers
 Gomzy and Chord , who are celebrating their bdays.

 Lets wish them a Very Happy Bday on Sunday

 May God Bless them always..

 Jai Ho


 --
 regards,
 Vithur



-- 
regards,
Vithur


[arr] Re: Why is it that there are no instrumentals in Raavan?

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
ARR always gives amazing instrumentals to Ashutosh Gowarikar's films, but yes, 
I do miss his instrumentals a lot in other films.  Raavan badly needed a theme 
instrumental tracknot there.  It was disappointing for me too.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@... wrote:

 Yeah me too feel the same. I was really expecting some instrumentals this 
 time. A Beera Theme or for the other two lead characters would have been 
 perfect. It seems ARR is not interested in instrumentals these days, perhaps 
 due to his busy schedule. Missing those good old days.
 
 /Jahanzeb
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aakarsh aakarsh_vk@ wrote:
 
  Hi!
  
  I recently watched this interview: 
  http://ishare.rediff.com/video/Entertainment/Astaad-Deboo-on-choreographing-Ash-and-Abhishek-in-Ravan/676103
  
  Astad Deboo choreographed a dance sequence that isnt a song as such. I 
  think it could be an instrumental. And I still wonder.. why are 
  instrumentals (or Theme Music) missing in this album, which appears to be 
  having lot of room for a Theme. Something like Theme for each character 
  (especially Raavan's character  Aishwarya Rai's character). Aishwarya Rai, 
  i heard, plays a classical singer by the way.
  
  Regards
  Aakarsh
   
  
 





[arr] Re: Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
A fair and thorough review.  Because the album is so short and very situational 
in nature and having musical genres that are unusual for a bollywood album, I 
do agree that the album as a whole may have a hard time appealing universally, 
limiting its popularity only to refined music lovers and ARR fans.

But, I have an issue with what he said below:

There is, also, a lot of déjà vu. If Behne de comes off like a cross between 
Mera yaar mila de and Satrangi re, the prelude portions of Khili re bring to 
mind Kehne ko jashn-e-bahara hai, Kata kata (with its frenzied chorus and 
pounding percussion) is a reworking of the Azeem-o-shaan shahenshah template, 
and Beera is flavoured like the incantatory title track of Omkara.

Again, I see no similarities when it comes to melody. Yes, perhaps the mood and 
feel of the songs he mentioned are similar, but then again, how many songs out 
there have similar moods and feels between various composers?  Lots!  Having a 
similar base sound and mood template or sharing the same raaga is NOT grounds 
for accusing Rahman of being repetitive!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:

 http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2010/05/01/between-reviews-head-games/





[arr] Raavan-My review

2010-05-02 Thread Anish Gupte
*Raavan*

Hi guys!. I have been inactive in this group over the last few weeks ,
mainly due to my studies. It was only a couple of days ago, (I guess
Wednesday), that I finally started to listen to the songs, and also reading
about the album on this group, as well as other reviews etc. Needless to
say, my expectations were paramount, and also after reading some articles
and listener reviews, they only rose higher. So, now that I have heard the
album enough and completely (there are only 6 songs after all), I think now
is the time to finally put forth my views.

The African style chorus and the vintage beat structure which welcome the
listener at the intro of ‘Beera’ are indeed worth a listen. The song soon
transcends into a well arranged, beaty piece with ringing vocals and a
catchy tune. The singers do their job effectively. In a song which tends to
grow on the listener with each hearing, Rahman excels at his arrangements,
but the average/poor lyrics and the restricted length prevent the song from
creating a permanent place in one’s mind (at least in my mind).

Ranjha Ranjha is one of my favorite songs of the album. The real winners
here are the singers Javed Ali and Reena Bharadwaj. The guitar at the
beginning and the scintillating, rusty vocals set up the mood for this
awesome number. The lyrics are a marked improvement from the opening track.
The intricately arranged beats, quite complex in style, together with the
Santoor and various other instruments are definitely impressive, but I
personally wished they were tuned slightly better. The interludes are pretty
short, and I wish there was more melody and more substance in them. Anuradha
sriram’s programmed vocals def suit the ambience of the song, but are not
really a pleasure to listen to, especially after a few listenings. Rahman
could have really made this into a path breaking track.The end result is
definitely a song worth savoring, but in spite of the longish length , left
me just a tad unsatisfied to say the least.

Khili Re is currently my favorite song of the album. Rahman is in real form
here, and creates a gem of a number. Once again, it takes a few listens to
fully appreciate how beautiful this song is. Reena Bharadwaj’s mesmerizing
vocals, though not perfect, and the apt lyrics, do full justice to the
playful composition, and she quite easily manages to croon the
convoluted *antara.
*The interlude is astonishing, the amalgamation of instruments is pure
bliss, and one can actually feel the underlying layers and sounds exuding
from this piece. Rahman effectively shows off his supremacy over Indian
classical instruments here, which is great pleasure to hear as always. I
really hoped there would be a second stanza here, but unfortunately the song
ends after just the 1 verse. The song may not cater to a wide audience due
to its strong classical base, and lack of appeal value.

 Behne De..as most people have described is yet another masterpiece.
Karthik’s rendition is so powerful that one can actually feel the power and
rawness of the emotions coming through. The songs starts off brilliantly,
picking up pace in the middle sections. Rahman uses his trademark signature
style beats, programmed with drums and several other sounds to create a
dramatic composition. However, the song failed to sustain my continued
interest, largely due to the draggy second interlude and the voiceless, over
dramatic climax which only consists of sound. Also, I could cite several
similarities with Rahman’s Satrangi Re. The lyrics are soul stirring as is
the singing, but the song as a whole did not really shake me up as much. A
good song, though a tad overdone.

Well my friends, the soundtrack suddenly and without warning, spiraled
downwards from here on, with the last 2 songs being the weakest of the album
for me . Kata Kata is a complete mess. The fusion of the north Indian
instruments and Ila Aruns harsh vocals did not work for me at all.  Rahman
in my opinion lost his plot somewhat , trying to bring in too many elements
into one song. I do realize that this is a situational song, and may fit
well in the movie, but on plain hearing , this is just a chaotic and
directionless piece of music. (ppl are comparing with azeem-o-shahenshah
from JA…what??...are u kidding me?? Lol)….In fact, if I may be so harsh,,,by
the time the song ends I was starting to get a headache…with that loud
shehnai type instrument!!..god…Thok de kalli..once again a pretty average
piece of work. Rahman is capable of doing so much better. The song just
didn’t tsick in my head at all. Save for some decent music and loads of
drums, the song really didn’t impress me at all. I suspect this is again a
situational track.



Raavan in my opinion is a soundtrack which failed to live up to my
expectations (As if that matters…ha)..but I just feel that there is so much
more which Rahman/Ratnam could have done with this album. Esp with  Ranjha
Ranjha and Khilli re. With 2 truly outstanding tracks and 2 really poor 

Re: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo

2010-05-02 Thread Gopal Anandan
Dai!!! - Chill da! Ganesha... what is an impure native of tamil nadu? Man.. 
some of you are hilarious, I must say. 

--- On Sat, 1/5/10, Ganesh Subramanian ganesh_cs...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Ganesh Subramanian ganesh_cs...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 1 May, 2010, 9:11 PM







 



  



  
  
  woow bt its nt nice to see d same trailer of as we a saw in hindi 
version.. i wish dey cud have released some new trailer for d tamil version n 
for d tamil audience...
really eagerly waiting to hear d songs of tamil version of d film since 
rahman's music in tamil will always give a  very special ,traditional n native  
feel wen compared to his music in other hindi or english films..since he is a 
pure native of tamil nadu!
 


--- On Sat, 1/5/10, mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ yahoo.co. uk wrote:


From: mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ yahoo.co. uk
Subject: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 1 May, 2010, 3:10 PM


  

http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=jv-eV6jR3Qw

enjoy guys





 





 



  







Re: [arr] Re: Sonu singing for Rahman new movie?

2010-05-02 Thread Thulasi Ram
according to recent chain of tweets from shekhar kapoor, sonu and shreya, it
could be possibly for paani.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 9:06 PM, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@yahoo.com wrote:



 But Rajneeti is not composed by ARR, I think it is Pritam, Shantanu and
 this guy Sharpe. but then what does he mean by the last sentence Still in
 the hangover.. Off to Rehman/Chennai!, anyone??

 /Jahanzeb

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 riyazeth riyaz...@... wrote:
 
  Sonu Tweets
 
  Recorded a divine song for Wayne Sharpe for Prakash Jha's Rajneeti..
 Still in the hangover.. Off to Rehman/Chennai!
 
  what movie is this for?
 
  RyAaZ
 

  



[arr] stop comparing a.r.r-mani combo albums.

2010-05-02 Thread aneesh ani
Guys pls stop this topic.each album has its own rahman stamp.our boss makes 
music which suits to the story of the film.hw can u compare thiruda thiruda n 
raavan,both are different in every aspect n this difference makes d 
difference.both album are superb.raavan s music is not a slow poison its an 
instant hitting poison.my earphone is tired by playing raavan.so guys stop 
comparing.if ur taking each film of mani ratna  music wil b perfect with the 
film,so raavan wil be in the same league,so stop this unnecesary topic.every 
child will be special for a mother so.




[arr] Re: Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread ravi
not writing an essay means I just dont wish to impose and trying to scratch my 
brains to convince. It doesnt require any courage to key in whatever the mind 
thinks it only requires a simple thought of what its audience would feel. 
You must read the feedbacks for those essays by Arundati Roy. A free internet 
and space doesnt mean you have to fill garbage. 


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote:

 On 5/1/2010 4:28 PM India Time, _ravi_ wrote:
 
 
  I dont write to like an essay,
 
 that needs to think over a lot of things to collect thoughts and then 
 to feel confident about your conclusion to gather courage to say iit 
 in words and then to share it with the world. Not many can do that in 
 today's rush world of instant pleasures.
 
 
  but I simply understand Blue was
  Blue and Raavn is Raavan.
 
 right, just like Himesh's music is himesh's music and anu malik's 
 music is anu malik's music, and pritam's music is pritam's music and 
 so on. And like Dil Se was Dil Se, and Bombay was Bombay, and so on.
 
 You are saying that you are treating all films and music and songs 
 individually and don't group them by commanalties or differences.
 
  Ar gave appropriate music and those who
  appreciated both the music just loved its music and they just did
  not hate Blue just bcs the lyrics wasnt from the Urdu Poet. We
  loved the music and just thats it.
 
 not many bother about the philosophy or concept behind a song or an 
 album or a movie. We tend to like them isolating that from the rest of 
 the world, but that is not really correct as everything has its 
 consequences and implications. Understaning those brings some purpose 
 in life and makes us mature and wiser.
 
 --
 Rawat
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawatvsrawat@
  wrote:
 
  Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same
  members are immersed in Raavan and praising it.
 
  I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate
  it?
 
  Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them
  is not just technical difference like a difference in classical
  or bolly songs that one can like some of both categories. There
  are deeper differences.
 
  I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was
  technically great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in
  those songs to weave the songs as a single fabric
 
  On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a
  underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a
  single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly.
  Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.
 
  Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all
  movies of ARR-Mani got discussed.
 
  Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old
  is gold, back to the basics.
 
  Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.
 
  What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it
  was a technically great album having new types of sounds.
 
  I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in
  raavan, but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty
  of sounds in raavan - because there are so many things in raavan
  to be talked about that its technical supremacy seems to have
  taken a back seat low down in the list of priorities of things
  that we love to discuss about music, about ARR's music.
 
  Nobody has so far asked where is ARR's signature in Raavan, the
  way we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so?
  Because we all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond
  of Raavan.
 
  At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about
  people's high expectations after his oscars.
 
  I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people
  expectations and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that
  ARR should forget people and forget oscars when he enters his
  studio and he should create what his heart says.
 
  Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars
  to him.
 
  Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention
  of people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy)
  now. Raavan got released without a word from ARR.
 
  And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums
  had stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se.
 
  I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's
  expectations and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is
  back to become pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in
  every beat of Raavan. A creativity that has a soul, unlike the
  sheer technical creativity of blue.
 
  Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His
  music explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening
  his music when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when
  we are not in touch.
 
  Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is
  an album 

Re: [ARR] VTV is just unstoppable

2010-05-02 Thread Farzad Khaleel
I would say, after long time ARR has got a pure script based on love and
every thing was perfect in that movie. So it all came out good and this made
the album a Big hit.

So me too put VTV in Loop evrytime I travle to office and back home !

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Arijit Debnath arijit...@gmail.com wrote:



 For me it's both true and untrue...

 When listening to VTV sometimes getting so impatient thinking when it will
 be finished and I should jump on Raavan...

 Again... listening to Raavan in the midway...I start Aromale or sometimes
 Dil Gira Dafatan (delhi 6)...

 Raavan, VTV and Delhi 6.. long way to go long time needed to
 digest the scores...

 Arijit

  On 1 May 2010 13:17, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote:



 I do not know which ARR album was so addictive. Not even Ravan is stopping
 me from listening to VTV. Dont remember doing that ever !

 --
 www.gomzyphotography.com


  




-- 
Farzad Khaleel
www.rahmaniac.com


[arr] Mediocre/Average score by ARR for Raavan

2010-05-02 Thread live for arr Live
 I have been listening to Raavan for the last 2 weeks since its release. 
Initially i liked only Beera, rest all were very normal and i thought i will 
like all the songs after hearing more. I am disappointed to say after about 100 
times of hearings, I am still unable to absorb Raavan's songs. This is the 1st 
time i am stuck like this with AR. I am very depressed regarding this. All the 
albums of ARR take time to grow but this Album is not getting into my heart and 
mind and the push to hear the songs again is not happening. Ranja, Thokde, Kata 
Kata - all are very average tracks and the Soul is missing in these songs. 
Sorry to say this, but i couldn't avoid saying this also. I am surprised, 
amazed that this is a score for a MANIRATNAM film who introduced ARR and he has 
given the best for Mani. Again this is only my opinion and i'm not thrusting it 
upon you. Overall, average effort by ARR and waiting to hear the next time they 
both join hands. Come on ARR,
 you are the best, you will always deliver the best !


  

[arr] VTV Raavan @ Cannes Festival on May 14

2010-05-02 Thread raamkumar vaidyanathan

Mani Ratnam’s ‘Raavanan’ is releasing on June 18 worldwide. Post production 
works are being done to perfection and A R Rahman is busy completing the 
re-recording work.Meanwhile Mani is also preparing to screen ‘Raavan’ at the 
Cannes Festival on May 14. Another Tamil film that will accompany ‘Raavan’ at 
the Cannes is Gautham Menon’s ‘Vinnaithandi Varuvaya’. We hear a list of people 
associated with these two films are attending the festival. Mani Ratnam. 
Gautham Menon, Cinematographer Manoj Paramahamsa are joined by the cast of 
‘Raavan’ Abhishek, Aishwarya and Vikram.Another important thing that is running 
in the mind of Mani Ratnam is the promotional tour for ‘Raavanan’. His decision 
hangs in balance because he in two minds whether to take his film to IIFA 
Festival happening in Colombo in the first week of June. If Mani decides to 
skip the Sri Lanka program then he will start the promo tour as early as in the 
last week of May
 itself.http://rahman360.com/?p=1398Regards, Ram..       ~  Rαнмαη αddicт™  ~



[arr] Re: Usurae Pogudhey - Behene De Gujarat Day song

2010-05-02 Thread Dinesh Scaran
the song by Karthik sounds very good. The lyrics sounds very good. its been so 
long since we heard such raw yet classy Tamil lyrics. ARR-VM combo never fails. 
The tune sounds very folkish too. Im glad i skiped Ravan songs for Ravanan. No 
disappointment what so ever... Waiting for the audio cd now...

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Srini Santhanam saint.si...@... wrote:

 Sung by Karthik - Preview now available on AR's Facebook page.
 
 Here's his message on Gujarat Day Song:
 
 It gives me immense pleasure to be commissioned by the Govt. of Gujarat to 
 compose a song for the Gujarat Day celebrations. The song is called 'Jai Jai 
 Garvi Gujarat' and has been written by noted writer Kavi Narmad. Other 
 Gujarati writers on this song are Dilip Rawal, Ankit Trivedi, Sairam Dave  
 Chiragh Tripathi. The Hindi version has been written by Prasoon Joshi.The 
 people of Gujarat are some of the nicest that I've come across whether in 
 India or across the globe. Also, the fact that my wife is from Kutch, gave me 
 additional impetus to compose this song. I sincerely hope this song helps 
 people celebrate and come together as one. The film is being directed by my 
 long term associate Bharatbala who has demonstrated his unique vision and I'm 
 looking forward to the video.





Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread harsha vardhan
Mr.Rawat, you said you love to hate two ARR songs - 'no problem' and 'chiggy 
wiggy'...what i say is you can even hate 'roja'...no one can force you to love 
anything...its a conscience thing...
if you expect another kadal rojave (roja jaaneman) in blue...sorry ARR is not 
your cup of tea..you can't even fit 'tere bina' in blue else ARR could 've done 
that by your wish (looks like the listeners are more talented than the creator 
himself). blue is not an album that is musically demanding...its a film score 
and it needed music that can enhance the subject within certain limitations...
ARR did just what it needed , he did just what roja needed and he is just doing 
what every film is demanding...i don't think he has ever done music for the 
people,its just that we are fortunate enough to grasp some brilliance at least 
,from his compositions all these years...i believe, at least you know that the 
man himself knows better than what we all know ,what he has to deliver ,looking 
at what he has done all these years...
And Mr.Nagraj...no one asked you to rave an ARR composition...we all know what 
his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an ear...simply 
because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just like- the man 
who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions there than the ones 
reading the same news in the newspaper...
give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol
wake up brother(s)...

--- On Sun, 5/2/10, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:48 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing about 
it. Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone saying 
'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable. Weird. 
Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in hearing why blue 
doesn't work for someone.



Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here?



--- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purev...@.. . wrote:



 Good point, Gomzy.  Couldn't have said it better!

 

 --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@  wrote:

 

  The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they

  believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that maybe

  this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves first.

  

  On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:

  

  

  

   Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members

   are immersed in Raavan and praising it.

  

   I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?

  

   Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not

   just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly

   songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper

   differences.

  

   I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically

   great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to

   weave the songs as a single fabric

  

   On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a

   underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a

   single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly.

   Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.

  

   Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies

   of ARR-Mani got discussed.

  

   Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is

   gold, back to the basics.

  

   Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.

  

   What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was

   a technically great album having new types of sounds.

  

   I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan,

   but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in

   raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about

   that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down

   in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about

   music, about ARR's music.

  

   Nobody has so far asked where is ARR's signature in Raavan, the way

   we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we

   all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan.

  

   At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's

   high expectations after his oscars.

  

   I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people expectations

   and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should forget

   people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should

   create what his heart says.

  

   Oscars didn't make ARR 

[arr] Re: Mediocre/Average score by ARR for Raavan

2010-05-02 Thread Dinesh Scaran
hello nanba... some songs will sound good only after watching the visuals. im 
very sure ARR composed the songs keeping the visuals in mind. ARR is a person 
who works more on the script, rather than the song appealing as it self. so 
just put it to rest, and enjoy VTV or any other ARR-Mani combo instead. Im 
hooked to Alaipayuthey songs for now... :)

:)

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, live for arr Live livefor...@... wrote:

  I have been listening to Raavan for the last 2 weeks since its release. 
 Initially i liked only Beera, rest all were very normal and i thought i will 
 like all the songs after hearing more. I am disappointed to say after about 
 100 times of hearings, I am still unable to absorb Raavan's songs. This is 
 the 1st time i am stuck like this with AR. I am very depressed regarding 
 this. All the albums of ARR take time to grow but this Album is not getting 
 into my heart and mind and the push to hear the songs again is not happening. 
 Ranja, Thokde, Kata Kata - all are very average tracks and the Soul is 
 missing in these songs. Sorry to say this, but i couldn't avoid saying this 
 also. I am surprised, amazed that this is a score for a MANIRATNAM film who 
 introduced ARR and he has given the best for Mani. Again this is only my 
 opinion and i'm not thrusting it upon you. Overall, average effort by ARR and 
 waiting to hear the next time they both join hands. Come on ARR,
  you are the best, you will always deliver the best !





Re: [arr] ARRs Gujarat song available for download

2010-05-02 Thread Vinayakam Murugan
Starts off in a soothing manner and transforms into a anthem-like
progression.

Any idea, who's the lead singer?


Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/


On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote:



 sounds like a nice feel good song. vocals of the lead singer is quite good
 as well.

 http://www.narendramodi.in/

  



[arr] Jai Jai Garvi Gujarat

2010-05-02 Thread ~ s...@ps ~
Gives me immense pleasure n pride that ARR's composed this wonderful song for 
Gujarat Day...its quite refreshing n melodious as compared 2 the original 
tune..(which is in Raga Bhairavi)...mostly its sung by Keerti Sagathia (son of 
legendary Guj. folk singer Karsan Sagathia, who also sang Kesariya Balam from 
movie 'DORR)beautiful composition n arngmnts
Jai Ho!!!Jai Swarnim Gujarat...swaps


  

[arr] Re: Mediocre/Average score by ARR for Raavan

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
I respect your opinion, though don't aqree with it.  I think Raavan is a short, 
but sweet masterpiece!  Yes, the songs are situational, yes, they're 
unconventional, but there's so much amazing musical detail packed in each 
track, it's amazing to me. Who knows, maybe you'll like the songs more after 
the film or over time.  If not, better luck next time!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, live for arr Live livefor...@... wrote:

  I have been listening to Raavan for the last 2 weeks since its release. 
 Initially i liked only Beera, rest all were very normal and i thought i will 
 like all the songs after hearing more. I am disappointed to say after about 
 100 times of hearings, I am still unable to absorb Raavan's songs. This is 
 the 1st time i am stuck like this with AR. I am very depressed regarding 
 this. All the albums of ARR take time to grow but this Album is not getting 
 into my heart and mind and the push to hear the songs again is not happening. 
 Ranja, Thokde, Kata Kata - all are very average tracks and the Soul is 
 missing in these songs. Sorry to say this, but i couldn't avoid saying this 
 also. I am surprised, amazed that this is a score for a MANIRATNAM film who 
 introduced ARR and he has given the best for Mani. Again this is only my 
 opinion and i'm not thrusting it upon you. Overall, average effort by ARR and 
 waiting to hear the next time they both join hands. Come on ARR,
  you are the best, you will always deliver the best !





[arr] Re: Raavan-My review

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
Some of the songs being very unconventional and not having a specific direction 
or structure that we're used to hearing is not going well with a lot of people. 
 Oh well, another ARR experiment that's obviously not going to satisfy everyone.

It is kind of disheartening to hear people being disappointed with this 
soundtrack, which had so much expectation.

I say this again..they should have included more tracks and some of the 
tracks should have been longerI think those 2 things alone would have 
helped to buffer the unconventional and experimental nature of the soundtrack.  
When you have such limited music time on a CD, anything experimental and 
grossly unconventional will not have a large margin of error as far as 
acceptability with many listeners.  

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anish Gupte musimax2...@... wrote:

 *Raavan*
 
 Hi guys!. I have been inactive in this group over the last few weeks ,
 mainly due to my studies. It was only a couple of days ago, (I guess
 Wednesday), that I finally started to listen to the songs, and also reading
 about the album on this group, as well as other reviews etc. Needless to
 say, my expectations were paramount, and also after reading some articles
 and listener reviews, they only rose higher. So, now that I have heard the
 album enough and completely (there are only 6 songs after all), I think now
 is the time to finally put forth my views.
 
 The African style chorus and the vintage beat structure which welcome the
 listener at the intro of `Beera' are indeed worth a listen. The song soon
 transcends into a well arranged, beaty piece with ringing vocals and a
 catchy tune. The singers do their job effectively. In a song which tends to
 grow on the listener with each hearing, Rahman excels at his arrangements,
 but the average/poor lyrics and the restricted length prevent the song from
 creating a permanent place in one's mind (at least in my mind).
 
 Ranjha Ranjha is one of my favorite songs of the album. The real winners
 here are the singers Javed Ali and Reena Bharadwaj. The guitar at the
 beginning and the scintillating, rusty vocals set up the mood for this
 awesome number. The lyrics are a marked improvement from the opening track.
 The intricately arranged beats, quite complex in style, together with the
 Santoor and various other instruments are definitely impressive, but I
 personally wished they were tuned slightly better. The interludes are pretty
 short, and I wish there was more melody and more substance in them. Anuradha
 sriram's programmed vocals def suit the ambience of the song, but are not
 really a pleasure to listen to, especially after a few listenings. Rahman
 could have really made this into a path breaking track.The end result is
 definitely a song worth savoring, but in spite of the longish length , left
 me just a tad unsatisfied to say the least.
 
 Khili Re is currently my favorite song of the album. Rahman is in real form
 here, and creates a gem of a number. Once again, it takes a few listens to
 fully appreciate how beautiful this song is. Reena Bharadwaj's mesmerizing
 vocals, though not perfect, and the apt lyrics, do full justice to the
 playful composition, and she quite easily manages to croon the
 convoluted *antara.
 *The interlude is astonishing, the amalgamation of instruments is pure
 bliss, and one can actually feel the underlying layers and sounds exuding
 from this piece. Rahman effectively shows off his supremacy over Indian
 classical instruments here, which is great pleasure to hear as always. I
 really hoped there would be a second stanza here, but unfortunately the song
 ends after just the 1 verse. The song may not cater to a wide audience due
 to its strong classical base, and lack of appeal value.
 
  Behne De..as most people have described is yet another masterpiece.
 Karthik's rendition is so powerful that one can actually feel the power and
 rawness of the emotions coming through. The songs starts off brilliantly,
 picking up pace in the middle sections. Rahman uses his trademark signature
 style beats, programmed with drums and several other sounds to create a
 dramatic composition. However, the song failed to sustain my continued
 interest, largely due to the draggy second interlude and the voiceless, over
 dramatic climax which only consists of sound. Also, I could cite several
 similarities with Rahman's Satrangi Re. The lyrics are soul stirring as is
 the singing, but the song as a whole did not really shake me up as much. A
 good song, though a tad overdone.
 
 Well my friends, the soundtrack suddenly and without warning, spiraled
 downwards from here on, with the last 2 songs being the weakest of the album
 for me . Kata Kata is a complete mess. The fusion of the north Indian
 instruments and Ila Aruns harsh vocals did not work for me at all.  Rahman
 in my opinion lost his plot somewhat , trying to bring in too many elements
 into one song. I do realize that this is a 

[arr] Re: Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread Rivjot
In his next review of ARR album, we shall read there is no Behne De
Policy of most of reviewers - bash whatever you are reviewing, compare it with 
past work.. say how great piece of art others were. Then in next album, say 
good things about same album/movie that you bashed. 
have noticed this patter a number of times.. 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote:

 I also disagree with this statement:
 
 With Raavan, I couldn't shake off the disappointment that, despite all the 
 evident effort, there is no solitary dazzler, no Aaromale, no Rehna tu, no 
 Rehnuma (and that was un film de  Anthony D'Souza, for crying out loud).
 
 Behene De is that dazzler!  Are you kidding me???  If you don't think Behene 
 De is a dazzler, what more do you want???
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@ wrote:
 
  http://www.desipundit.com/baradwajrangan/2010/05/01/between-reviews-head-games/
 





Re: [arr] Usure Pogude (Behene De) Tamil promo

2010-05-02 Thread Ganesh Subramanian
d song is really fantastic n d simple lyrics without much complicated words by 
Vairamuthu is also very nice to hear...so surely d songs of Ravanan will be far 
more better n excellent than d songs of hindi version just two days more 
for d songs! count down begins!

--- On Sun, 2/5/10, Indmov Buff indmovb...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Indmov Buff indmovb...@yahoo.com
Subject: [arr] Usure Pogude (Behene De) Tamil promo
To: A R arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 2 May, 2010, 10:11 AM


  





Akkarai cheemayil nee irunthum, ai viral theendida nenekuthadi 


Vairamuthu!! ! 




http://www.facebook .com/arrahman# !/arrahman? v=wallstory_fbid=38951095 1719
















Re: [arr] ARRs Gujarat song available for download

2010-05-02 Thread Imthaz Ahamed
Hey i am not from India, can anyone explain me why this song was composed?
and what is Gujarat day?
It seems to be a nice song :D

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote:



 sounds like a nice feel good song. vocals of the lead singer is quite good
 as well.

 http://www.narendramodi.in/

   



Re: [arr] Mediocre/Average score by ARR for Raavan

2010-05-02 Thread V S Rawat
Give your name, buddy, at least, so that we can address you.

I concede that if it has not grown you on 100 hearings, probably it is 
not meant for you, as I can't request to spend more hearings on it.

Which of the previous ARR albums/songs and ARR-Mani Albums songs you 
had liked and disliked?

I am still surprised that you didn't like it so strongly and you want 
ARR not to give such type of songs. If you have known ARR's style so 
well as you are saying, you must be finding that Ravaan is 100% pure 
style of ARR and all his friends can find ARR signatures in almost 
every where in Raavan.

I can't say Amen to your wish that ARR doesn't give this type of music 
again. I am in love in this album, especially behne de and kata kata.

--
Rawat


On 5/2/2010 4:33 PM India Time, _live for arr Live_ wrote:

 I have been listening to Raavan for the last 2 weeks since its release.
 Initially i liked only Beera, rest all were very normal and i thought i
 will like all the songs after hearing more. I am disappointed to say
 after about 100 times of hearings, I am still unable to absorb Raavan's
 songs. This is the 1st time i am stuck like this with AR. I am very
 depressed regarding this. All the albums of ARR take time to grow but
 this Album is not getting into my heart and mind and the push to hear
 the songs again is not happening. Ranja, Thokde, Kata Kata - all are
 very average tracks and the Soul is missing in these songs. Sorry to say
 this, but i couldn't avoid saying this also. I am surprised, amazed that
 this is a score for a MANIRATNAM film who introduced ARR and he has
 given the best for Mani. Again this is only my opinion and i'm not
 thrusting it upon you. Overall, average effort by ARR and waiting to
 hear the next time they both join hands. Come on ARR, you are the best,
 you will always deliver the best !




Re: [ARR] VTV is just unstoppable

2010-05-02 Thread VenkataKrishna
But I dont say have overcome of it instead added playlist with full of BGMs.

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:44 AM, Farzad Khaleel farsad...@gmail.com wrote:



 I would say, after long time ARR has got a pure script based on love and
 every thing was perfect in that movie. So it all came out good and this made
 the album a Big hit.

 So me too put VTV in Loop evrytime I travle to office and back home !

 On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Arijit Debnath arijit...@gmail.comwrote:



 For me it's both true and untrue...

 When listening to VTV sometimes getting so impatient thinking when it will
 be finished and I should jump on Raavan...

 Again... listening to Raavan in the midway...I start Aromale or sometimes
 Dil Gira Dafatan (delhi 6)...

 Raavan, VTV and Delhi 6.. long way to go long time needed to
 digest the scores...

 Arijit

  On 1 May 2010 13:17, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote:



 I do not know which ARR album was so addictive. Not even Ravan is
 stopping me from listening to VTV. Dont remember doing that ever !

 --
 www.gomzyphotography.com





 --
 Farzad Khaleel
 www.rahmaniac.com
  



Re: [arr] Re: Raavan-My review

2010-05-02 Thread Anish Gupte
I know...But Im hoping the BGM will be excellent as Rahman always excels in
that category...Also...Im wondering how come ARR did not sing a proper full
song here..he does so in most of the big films he does..


Ive been listening to some of Rahman's tamil songs..old ones.. i read a lot
abt Thiruda Thiruda ..ppl commenting on the greatness of that...well i heard
a couple of songs..OMG..the drumming structure and rhythm in those songs was
outstanding..i m loving that!!!...:D..

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:03 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote:



 Some of the songs being very unconventional and not having a specific
 direction or structure that we're used to hearing is not going well with a
 lot of people. Oh well, another ARR experiment that's obviously not going to
 satisfy everyone.

 It is kind of disheartening to hear people being disappointed with this
 soundtrack, which had so much expectation.

 I say this again..they should have included more tracks and some of the
 tracks should have been longerI think those 2 things alone would
 have helped to buffer the unconventional and experimental nature of the
 soundtrack. When you have such limited music time on a CD, anything
 experimental and grossly unconventional will not have a large margin of
 error as far as acceptability with many listeners.

 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
 Anish Gupte musimax2...@... wrote:
 
  *Raavan*

 
  Hi guys!. I have been inactive in this group over the last few weeks ,
  mainly due to my studies. It was only a couple of days ago, (I guess
  Wednesday), that I finally started to listen to the songs, and also
 reading
  about the album on this group, as well as other reviews etc. Needless to
  say, my expectations were paramount, and also after reading some articles
  and listener reviews, they only rose higher. So, now that I have heard
 the
  album enough and completely (there are only 6 songs after all), I think
 now
  is the time to finally put forth my views.
 
  The African style chorus and the vintage beat structure which welcome the
  listener at the intro of `Beera' are indeed worth a listen. The song soon
  transcends into a well arranged, beaty piece with ringing vocals and a
  catchy tune. The singers do their job effectively. In a song which tends
 to
  grow on the listener with each hearing, Rahman excels at his
 arrangements,
  but the average/poor lyrics and the restricted length prevent the song
 from
  creating a permanent place in one's mind (at least in my mind).
 
  Ranjha Ranjha is one of my favorite songs of the album. The real winners
  here are the singers Javed Ali and Reena Bharadwaj. The guitar at the
  beginning and the scintillating, rusty vocals set up the mood for this
  awesome number. The lyrics are a marked improvement from the opening
 track.
  The intricately arranged beats, quite complex in style, together with the
  Santoor and various other instruments are definitely impressive, but I
  personally wished they were tuned slightly better. The interludes are
 pretty
  short, and I wish there was more melody and more substance in them.
 Anuradha
  sriram's programmed vocals def suit the ambience of the song, but are not
  really a pleasure to listen to, especially after a few listenings. Rahman
  could have really made this into a path breaking track.The end result is
  definitely a song worth savoring, but in spite of the longish length ,
 left
  me just a tad unsatisfied to say the least.
 
  Khili Re is currently my favorite song of the album. Rahman is in real
 form
  here, and creates a gem of a number. Once again, it takes a few listens
 to
  fully appreciate how beautiful this song is. Reena Bharadwaj's
 mesmerizing
  vocals, though not perfect, and the apt lyrics, do full justice to the
  playful composition, and she quite easily manages to croon the
  convoluted *antara.
  *The interlude is astonishing, the amalgamation of instruments is pure
  bliss, and one can actually feel the underlying layers and sounds exuding
  from this piece. Rahman effectively shows off his supremacy over Indian
  classical instruments here, which is great pleasure to hear as always. I
  really hoped there would be a second stanza here, but unfortunately the
 song
  ends after just the 1 verse. The song may not cater to a wide audience
 due
  to its strong classical base, and lack of appeal value.
 
  Behne De..as most people have described is yet another masterpiece.
  Karthik's rendition is so powerful that one can actually feel the power
 and
  rawness of the emotions coming through. The songs starts off brilliantly,
  picking up pace in the middle sections. Rahman uses his trademark
 signature
  style beats, programmed with drums and several other sounds to create a
  dramatic composition. However, the song failed to sustain my continued
  interest, largely due to the draggy second interlude and the voiceless,
 over
  dramatic climax which only 

[arr] Thok De Killi - jet-set speed and unclear symbolism are deterrents

2010-05-02 Thread V S Rawat
Conflict, and its resolution, is the main purpose why a film is being 
made in the first place. The spectators identify with the conflict as 
the one affecting their very own life and that's what pulls them to 
the theatres, and they love to see the hero living their life on 
screen, facing their problems, and would like to learn how the hero/ 
heroine resolves those problems.

In Raavan, though one might think Beera as the theme song, on hearing 
the lyrics, it comes out that beera beera is only listing (boasting) 
the qualities of Beera, that is it. It is Thok De Killi that is 
setting the conflict of the story. So, I think  the theme song of 
Raavan is not Beera-Berra, rather Thok De Killi.

And I am finding two oddities (not really flaws, may be ARR-Mani have 
something in mind that is not yet clear to me) in this theme song:

1. It has such cryptic lyrics and such a fast pace.

2. It has jet-set speed.

Lack of clarity of pronunciation is also not helping. And then its 
fast pace, in the stanzas, hardly any line, any word is repeated, and 
is rendered very fast to bring some effect, but that effect is missing 
me and has rather confused me.

Compare thok de killi to baar baar ha of Lagaan, that was the theme 
song of the film, and had similar conflict, and was motivating and 
prompting and tempting. That had pace kept much slower than thok de 
killi and that pace went quite well in helping people absorb the song.

--
Beera song has just one hint about it -Janam na pooche, jaat na 
pooche, meaning either he is orphan so his lineage is not known, or 
more likely his social background has nothing great to be proud of, so 
he doesn't want it to be discussed.

but Thok De Killi is full of real issues. That reference of Delhi is 
also probably for assuming political power, and that gilli danda is 
suggesting usurping such political power by use of brute force.

It all made me think what it could be all about.

--
The film is said to be on a village goon, and there might be 
maoist-leninist-naxalite leanings in his character, I am not sure, 
just my guess, but if Raavan is about Naxalite-maoists' insurgencies, 
I am sure that entire India is now deadly against Naxalites after they 
killed so many military guys in a recent ambush. So, if Raavan shows 
eulogizing naxalites, or justifying their causes and methods, I fear 
that it is going to have a severe backlash on the film and it is going 
to be utterly criticized and will flop and Mani personally will earn a 
bad reputation. Given that Mani doesn't know how to end a film will a 
realistic solution, if he raises the issue sincerely and then suddenly 
ends like bombay showing people making human chain, then also the film 
will be described as instilling the fear of naxalites among the hearts 
of people, and that will lead to same back lash.

I don't know anything about the film, it is just the impression got 
from the music that I am saying. I am just worried seeing so many ARR 
films with great music flopping on account of poor scripts.
--

Anyway. coming back to thok de killi.

Hardly any figures of speech they are using are making consistent 
sense, but the nachaiya (dancer) could be politics impersonified.

Mujre ka nazrana maange, heeray panne nakdi zevar
(the show the politicians are putting in parliament and assembly are 
to be paid dearly by masses in the form of heavy taxes.)

Jhoothi hai makkaar nachaiya, na koi maai na koi baiya
Boondh boondh ke kapat bara,
(politicians don't have any relative except money and power. they are 
full of falsehood).

If that is the symbolism, that is the clear part of the lyrics so far.

Raat ka maal, raaton ne lutaa
Chaand taaron ke guchche churaye
Din nikalna tha, apna bhi nikla
Kisme dum hai ke suraj bujaye

All this chand taaro ko churaye, suraj bujhaye are typical gulzarish 
phrases that he has often used, and these bring an unwelcome 
emotionality here where real life issues are involved.

Aaja milke baithe, haal sunawe dil ka
kelon ko khaate gaye, ham ko pehnke chilka chilka
(this might mean the leader are gulping the cream and are giving the 
janta just crumbs)

Bichde bichde keh ke humko khoob udaye gilli dilli

Sehte sehte ab to gardan ghar tak tar jaate hain
Choti ho gayi kabarein, bin mundi bhi marr jaate hain
Sadiyon se chalta aaya hai ooch neech ka lambha kissa
Ab ki baar hisaab chuka le, cheen ke le le apna hissa

The above two lines almost assured me in getting the above described 
progression of the script, and than worries me.

Apna khoon bhi laal hi hoga, khol ke dekh le khaal ke jhilli

the above last line is so misfit because it is not conveying anything 
concrete, and the song abruptly ends, it would have been better if 
this last line be shifted anywhere earlier, and the song had ended 
with the previous two lines which are crystal clear.

With due respect to gulzar saab, let's realize that handling social 
issues was never his forte, he made machis just because he is punjabi, 
otherwise the 

Re: [arr] A New song Composed by ARR for Swarnim Gujarat

2010-05-02 Thread Ganesh Subramanian
ya d song is really nice n melodious to hear...bt i heard tat it is also 
recorded in hindi with with d lyrics of Prasoon Joshi...so can anyone tell 
where d hindi version of dis Swarnim Gujarat song is available???

--- On Sun, 2/5/10, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Vithur vith...@gmail.com
Subject: [arr] A New song Composed by ARR for Swarnim Gujarat
To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 2 May, 2010, 5:33 AM


  



http://www.swarnimg ujarat.org/ index.aspx

-- 
regards,
Vithur









Re: [arr] Re: Food Distribution this Sunday - Celebration for Our brothers

2010-05-02 Thread Indmov Buff
Happy B'day Chord and Gomzy! Well done Vithur  co for the continuous 
commitment. 




From: Vithur vith...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 2 May, 2010 11:59:45
Subject: [arr] Re: Food Distribution this Sunday - Celebration for Our brothers

  
Food Packets along with Gulab Jamun were distributed today to
celebrate the bdays. Jai Ho

On 5/1/10, Vithur vith...@gmail. com wrote:
 This Sunday, May 2nd, 2010 FD will be a dedication to our Brothers
 Gomzy and Chord , who are celebrating their bdays.

 Lets wish them a Very Happy Bday on Sunday

 May God Bless them always..

 Jai Ho


 --
 regards,
 Vithur


-- 
regards,
Vithur

 


  

Re: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo

2010-05-02 Thread Indmov Buff
The Other Gopal, LOL! :) I also wonder! I am not expecting Raavanan to be  any 
different from Raavan after the track list got confirmed. Looking fwd to what 
Vairamuthu has in store for us. And hopefully Ja re made it to Raavanan.




From: Gopal Anandan agop...@yahoo.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 2 May, 2010 9:10:51
Subject: Re: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo

  
Dai!!! - Chill da! Ganesha... what is an impure native of tamil nadu? Man.. 
some of you are hilarious, I must say. 

--- On Sat, 1/5/10, Ganesh Subramanian ganesh_cse06@ yahoo.com wrote:


From: Ganesh Subramanian ganesh_cse06@ yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 1 May, 2010, 9:11 PM






  

 
  
 
woow bt its nt nice to see d same trailer of as we a saw in hindi 
version.. i wish dey cud have released some new trailer for d tamil version n 
for d tamil audience...
really eagerly waiting to hear d songs of tamil version of d film since 
rahman's music in tamil will always give a  very special ,traditional n native 
 feel wen compared to his music in other hindi or english films..since he is a 
pure native of tamil nadu!
 


--- On Sat, 1/5/10, mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ yahoo.co. uk wrote:


From: mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ yahoo.co. uk
Subject: [arr] Raavanan - First Tamil Promo
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Saturday, 1 May, 2010, 3:10 PM


  
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=jv-eV6jR3Qw

enjoy guys

 
 

 


  

[arr] Want to share an incident

2010-05-02 Thread diya
Hi all, 

Want to share something with you. I was at Atlanta recently and on my way from 
the Airport to the hotel, the Senegal based cab driver started playing a 
song...it took a while to sink in. But after a few moments I realized that the 
song was indeed Omana Penne.

He was playing the CD of VTV and said he loves all Rahman's music. Was raving 
about how he has achieved so much at such a young age. Here's to the universal 
appeal of the maestro.

There's nothing new about Rahman's appeal cutting across language and 
geographical distinctions, but to have experienced such a thing in first person 
was truly memorable!



Re: [arr] A New song Composed by ARR for Swarnim Gujarat

2010-05-02 Thread Anand Joshi
It's an awesome song by ARR sir.. being a Gujarati I felt in Love with the song 
in very first time. Can't stop my self humming it.

Anand

--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Vithur vith...@gmail.com
Subject: [arr] A New song Composed by ARR for Swarnim Gujarat
To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 11:03 AM







 



  



  
  
  http://www.swarnimg ujarat.org/ index.aspx



-- 

regards,

Vithur




 





 



  






  

Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread raj
Just felt we are better off just answering his question Why someone likes blue 
and Ravan instead of getting personal about it.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ravi ravis...@... wrote:

 make yourself clear that we would have had the same respect if one would 
 comment that himself did not like and album and would give it to the 
 choice. But whats not appealing is the question why posed why somebody like 
 both Raavan and Blue. Whats so wrong in Blue that those who liked both are 
 been challenged?
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_nagaraj@ wrote:
 
  If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing about it. 
  Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone saying 
  'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable. 
  Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in 
  hearing why blue doesn't work for someone.
  
  Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here?
  
  
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote:
  
   Good point, Gomzy.  Couldn't have said it better!
   
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote:
   
The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they
believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that 
maybe
this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves 
first.

On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:



 Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members
 are immersed in Raavan and praising it.

 I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?

 Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not
 just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly
 songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper
 differences.

 I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically
 great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to
 weave the songs as a single fabric

 On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a
 underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a
 single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly.
 Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.

 Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies
 of ARR-Mani got discussed.

 Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is
 gold, back to the basics.

 Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.

 What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was
 a technically great album having new types of sounds.

 I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan,
 but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in
 raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about
 that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down
 in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about
 music, about ARR's music.

 Nobody has so far asked where is ARR's signature in Raavan, the way
 we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we
 all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan.

 At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's
 high expectations after his oscars.

 I had written then here that if ARR is thinking of people expectations
 and about oscar, it is a wrong step. I had said that ARR should forget
 people and forget oscars when he enters his studio and he should
 create what his heart says.

 Oscars didn't make ARR creative, ARR's creativity brought Oscars to 
 him.

 Compare that to Raavan release. No statement by ARR, no mention of
 people's expectations, no mention of oscar (and even grammy) now.
 Raavan got released without a word from ARR.

 And Raavan has stirred the ARR-fandom like none of his albums had
 stirred in last 10 years, may be after Dil Se.

 I think, with Raavan, ARR has forgotten about people's expectations
 and he has put his awardee status in a corner. He is back to become
 pre-oscar ARR. And his creativity is evident in every beat of Raavan.
 A creativity that has a soul, unlike the sheer technical creativity of
 blue.

 Why should ARR explain his music the way he did in Blue? His music
 explains itself to us fans and we understand by listening his music
 when our souls are in touch with ARR's souls and when we are not in 
 touch.

 Blue was a album composed by an Oscar winner whereas Raavan is an
 album composed by a humble human being who is a music lover.

 It can 

Re: [arr] Any interchangeability of Raavan and Blue songs?

2010-05-02 Thread Indmov Buff
Why would they because they are completely different genres. 




From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com
To: arrf arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, 1 May, 2010 9:17:03
Subject: [arr] Any interchangeability of Raavan and Blue songs?

  
Let me tax your brain a bit:

Are there any Raavan songs that, if they had been in Blue instead of 
in raavan, would still gel pretty well with Blue album?

Are there any Blue songs that, if they had been in Raavan instead of 
in Blue, would still gel pretty well with Raavan album?

:-)

--
Rawat

 


  

Re: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread A.R.Rajib
Mr. Kishore ,Sachin Tendulker might have scored an 200 , that doesnt mean he
cant get out on without scoring !!!

Wake up !! Be a mature music listener !!

I dont understand from where all these Deja Vu coming from ...when you are
listening to Khwja and u r thinking this is sounding like satrangi re,then
this will definitely sound like Satrangi re to YOU !! I found no
similarities whatsoever !!

And he saw Vishal vardwaj's presence in Raavan/Rahman !! What a joke !!

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:08 PM, kishore parayath 
kishore.paray...@gmail.com wrote:



 Now our friends will start criticizing Bharadwaj Rangan. The SAME people
 who praised him for VINNAI THAANDI VARUVAYA review!!

 




-- 
- Regards

~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~


[arr] Again comparison!!!

2010-05-02 Thread aneesh ani
Again idiotic comparison,this is d reply to the guy who have compared tokde 
gilli with jai ho n ranjha ranjha with ringa ringa.hw can u compare these songs 
all are entirely different.dnt post rubbish things.new guys r posting such 
things,pls stop these idiotic comparisons.
jai ho raavan




Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums

2010-05-02 Thread Ashok Purohit
1-Alaipayuthe (Saathiya) (all songs are of great quality)
2-Yuva (novelty)
3- Dil Se  - very very catchy.
4-Bombay - biggest hit i guess 
5-Thiruda Thiruda (Chor Chor) - experiment taht was critisized and now loved
6-Guru - very much situational
7-Roja - best given that its his first movie
8-Raavan - stil growing
9-Iruver-  new music forms


Regards,
Ashok Singh Purohit

--- On Sat, 1/5/10, Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Jahanzeb jahanzebti...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Ranking of Mani-ARR albums
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 1 May, 2010, 8:10 PM


mine:

1-Dil Se..
2-Bombay
3-Alaipayuthe (Saathiya)
4-Thiruda Thiruda (Chor Chor)
5-Roja
6-Kannathil Muthamittal
7-Raavan
8-Guru
9-Iruver
10-Yuva


/Jahanzeb

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[arr] Raavan now avail in US on nehaflix

2010-05-02 Thread arr_raghu
Raavan CD at nehaflix

http://store.nehaflix.com/raavan-cd.html



[arr] lyrics Jay Jay garvi gujarat LYRICS

2010-05-02 Thread vju_2006
Hi guys i have tried to translate the lyrics in english for those who do not 
understand gujarati. The ending is still pending. Hope u guys like 
it...

Jay Jay Garvi Gujarat Transalation:-
The flow is mine…..
The sea and its waves are mine….
This field is very dear to me 
Farms are my respect and goodwill 
I am very priviledged that I am born here..
(chorus)
Jay jay jay garvi Gujarat (jay jay the pride of Gujarat)
Gujarat beats in my heart 

It has doors to welcome the world
And u will always find love in here
I bow down a million times to you ohh my motherland 
Jay jay garvi Gujarat (beats starts picking up pace)
Today you have made my dreams true.. I am a gujrati 
I love the flowers of  my motherland.. I am a gujrati 
My  nerves are  filled with sympathy love service.. I am a gujrati 
Within evry voice there is an echo… I am a gujarati 
Jay jay garvi gujrat
(FLUTE PIECE)

In this boiling heat the sky is telling me to burst out 
The target is awaiting me and is telling me to speak out 
There are so many doors which are closed, there are so many jharokhas which are 
yet to opened which we have to open 
Jay jay garvi Gujarat, the pride of my nation gujarat  (scale change part where 
Indian traditional sound comes in )

I have one thread, u pull one 
Lets churn these thread together and make one river….
Further the lyrics at the end are very tough and the wordings are such where I 
don't understand the meaning. 
Hope u guys like it 







Re: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread nilanjan mukherjee
A perspective, well conveyedThough profoundly debatable :)


--- On Sun, 2/5/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com
Subject: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews 
the  music
To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 2 May, 2010, 10:53 AM







 



  



  
  
  http://www.desipund it.com/baradwajr angan/2010/ 05/01/between- 
reviews-head- games/



 





 



  







[arr] Re: Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread Pravinder
Guys,
You are over-reacting.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, harsha vardhan harshaa_vard...@... wrote:

 Mr.Rawat, you said you love to hate two ARR songs - 'no problem' and 'chiggy 
 wiggy'...what i say is you can even hate 'roja'...no one can force you to 
 love anything...its a conscience thing...
 if you expect another kadal rojave (roja jaaneman) in blue...sorry ARR is not 
 your cup of tea..you can't even fit 'tere bina' in blue else ARR could 've 
 done that by your wish (looks like the listeners are more talented than the 
 creator himself). blue is not an album that is musically demanding...its a 
 film score and it needed music that can enhance the subject within certain 
 limitations...
 ARR did just what it needed , he did just what roja needed and he is just 
 doing what every film is demanding...i don't think he has ever done music for 
 the people,its just that we are fortunate enough to grasp some brilliance at 
 least ,from his compositions all these years...i believe, at least you know 
 that the man himself knows better than what we all know ,what he has to 
 deliver ,looking at what he has done all these years...
 And Mr.Nagraj...no one asked you to rave an ARR composition...we all know 
 what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an 
 ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just 
 like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions 
 there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper...
 give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol
 wake up brother(s)...
 
 --- On Sun, 5/2/10, raj arr_naga...@... wrote:
 
 From: raj arr_naga...@...
 Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:48 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing about 
 it. Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone saying 
 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable. 
 Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in hearing 
 why blue doesn't work for someone.
 
 
 
 Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here?
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purevibz@ . wrote:
 
 
 
  Good point, Gomzy.  Couldn't have said it better!
 
  
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@  wrote:
 
  
 
   The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they
 
   believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that 
   maybe
 
   this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves 
   first.
 
   
 
   On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members
 
are immersed in Raavan and praising it.
 
   
 
I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?
 
   
 
Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not
 
just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly
 
songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper
 
differences.
 
   
 
I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically
 
great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to
 
weave the songs as a single fabric
 
   
 
On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a
 
underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a
 
single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly.
 
Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.
 
   
 
Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies
 
of ARR-Mani got discussed.
 
   
 
Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is
 
gold, back to the basics.
 
   
 
Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.
 
   
 
What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was
 
a technically great album having new types of sounds.
 
   
 
I think all those great and novel sounds are still there in raavan,
 
but hardly anybody is talking about greatness and novelty of sounds in
 
raavan - because there are so many things in raavan to be talked about
 
that its technical supremacy seems to have taken a back seat low down
 
in the list of priorities of things that we love to discuss about
 
music, about ARR's music.
 
   
 
Nobody has so far asked where is ARR's signature in Raavan, the way
 
we had asked where ARR's signatures were in Pappu. Why so? Because we
 
all see ARR's signatures in each and every millisecond of Raavan.
 
   
 
At the time of release of Blue, ARR had given a message about people's
 
high expectations after his 

Re: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread Indmov Buff
Kishore, please don't dismiss us like that! :)

I respect Baradwaj Rangan's review. He is entitled to his opinion and I find 
this a fair review (despite me not agreeing to his overall take on the album) 
because I feel he has given it the right amount of time before reviewing it 
unlike some other reputed music review bloggers who want to churn out a review 
within an hour of the audio release just because they want to be the first to 
review an album. Respect, Baradwaj Rangan. Looking forward to your take on 
Raavanan!  :)





From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sun, 2 May, 2010 7:08:05
Subject: Re: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan  
reviews the music

  
Now our friends will start criticizing Bharadwaj Rangan. The SAME people who 
praised him for VINNAI THAANDI VARUVAYA review!! 
 


  

Re: [arr] Behne de's music is in the league of Enigma

2010-05-02 Thread Ashok Purohit
Don't think its the first time Rahman give such music. In the legue of Enigma, 
Rahman has already given En Swasa Katre way back (tubular bells?)
 
Thanks,
Ashok



at, 1/5/10, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [arr] Behne de's music is in the league of Enigma
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, 1 May, 2010, 9:57 AM












this song caught my attention very slowly; so did all songs in this album. but, 
m addicted to behne de now. particularly, the last 40 secs chrous and score is 
extremely seductive. very well done ARR! u r genius!


On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:10 AM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote:


  



I wrote previously also, and I wish to repeat a thousand time that the 
music of behne is something that ARR has never done before. The music 
is all encompassing, it seems to fill entire space around me. I fail 
to recognize what is music from the song and what is normal routine 
sounds of my surroundings. Some high treble instruments do come to 
notice, but the high bass ones are superbly used and sound so 
soothing. I feel that this song never ends and the music continues 
endlessly.

I am a lyrics man basically, and I can't hear to a song without 
noticing its lyrics, and lyrics are good in this song also, but it is 
a song in which I want to hear only music and not to lyrics.

Enigma had earlier given songs having such type of effect on me.

I wish to have a karaoke version of Behne De so as not to get 
distracted by lyrics and get immersed in pure music.

Thanks.
--
Rawat











[arr] Raavan - Mp3 Ringtones

2010-05-02 Thread Liku

Here is some Mp3 ringtones of Raavan
http://liku-likant.blogspot.com/2010/05/arrahman-raavan-mp3-ringtones.html

regards
Liku



[arr] Re: Would Kata Kata's rural hindi belt ethnicity fit the Tamil version

2010-05-02 Thread Ganpy
Hey Rawat...

I have been thinking about this from the first time I listened to Kata Kata. 
The song bleeds North Indian folksy flavor from all sides..so it will 
absolutely be alien (audio by itself) to the Tamil or the Telugu audience. 
But Mani is capable of doing his magic through his visuals and presenting 2 
different sets of marriage ceremonies/cultural nuances for the same tune  with 
different lyrics..

Or better if Rahman indeed comes up with mild variations for the South Indian 
version...! Better only because the song by itself may have a farther reach 
than the Hindi version.

-Ganpy.



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote:

 Kata Kata has not just lyrics but the entire tune of especially Ila 
 Arun's part in pure rural hindi belt ethnicity.
 
 I wonder how it would fit in the Tamil version, or would ARR change 
 the tune also along with lyrics to make it reflect the marriages in 
 Tamil culture.
 
 Vairamuthu is also going to have tough time finding Tamil words for 
 such chaste rural hindi terms like bohari (broom) and dand-wund pelo 
 (do push ups). I request in advance to you to give the tamil lyrics 
 and english translation of this particular song as soon as possible.
 
 If ARR retains the same tune in Tamil as it is in Hindi version, Tamil 
 listeners would get a glimpse of Hindi culture.
 
 At the same time, I personally think that ARR should change the tune 
 from hindi belt specific things to Tamil belt ethnicity things for the 
 reasons that
 1. that will be a different song thus another treat to us.
 2. I think a Tamil speaking person might not even realize that it is 
 the traditions and ethnicity of Hindi belt, and he might consider it 
 another music and like or not like (not possible though) it. It is the 
 way meenakshi's chinnaka rakkamma song that was south india specific 
 in opening, and I have heard that there was a play of words how the 
 same names are called in Tamil and Telugu, thus some meaning there, 
 but I couldn't get it at all and these remained just different 
 independent names for me, and so for other non tamil-telugu guys, I 
 guess. So, changing the lyrics to incorporate things that happen in 
 tamil marriages would be recommended, though that would again bring 
 the problem of continuity as the characters in the film would be 
 either south indian or north indian, and also as per the song shooting 
 location, it would be odd to show tamil marriage taking place in a 
 hindi belt setting.
 
 I am confused about this. let's see how ARR resolves all this.
 
 Thanks.
 --
 Rawat





Re: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread s_sundarr_2000

I think the reviewer is bang on target when he mentions about raavan music for 
head and not the music for heart.

Deep review. A nice one.

rukumani/azeemoshah/kata kata all can be made as a medley.

Sundar.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, nilanjan mukherjee fun2feelf...@... 
wrote:

 A perspective, well conveyedThough profoundly debatable :)
 
 
 --- On Sun, 2/5/10, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote:
 
 From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@...
 Subject: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews 
 the  music
 To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, 2 May, 2010, 10:53 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   http://www.desipund it.com/baradwajr angan/2010/ 05/01/between- 
 reviews-head- games/





[arr] Re: Food Distribution this Sunday - Celebration for Our brothers

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
THanks, Indmov!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Indmov Buff indmovb...@... wrote:

 Happy B'day Chord and Gomzy! Well done Vithur  co for the continuous 
 commitment. 
 
 
 
 
 From: Vithur vith...@...
 To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Sent: Sun, 2 May, 2010 11:59:45
 Subject: [arr] Re: Food Distribution this Sunday - Celebration for Our 
 brothers
 
   
 Food Packets along with Gulab Jamun were distributed today to
 celebrate the bdays. Jai Ho
 
 On 5/1/10, Vithur vith...@gmail. com wrote:
  This Sunday, May 2nd, 2010 FD will be a dedication to our Brothers
  Gomzy and Chord , who are celebrating their bdays.
 
  Lets wish them a Very Happy Bday on Sunday
 
  May God Bless them always..
 
  Jai Ho
 
 
  --
  regards,
  Vithur
 
 
 -- 
 regards,
 Vithur





[arr] Re: Want to share an incident

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
Excellent!  Great to hear how Rahman's music has had such a broad reach!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, diya ganguly_d...@... wrote:

 Hi all, 
 
 Want to share something with you. I was at Atlanta recently and on my way 
 from the Airport to the hotel, the Senegal based cab driver started playing a 
 song...it took a while to sink in. But after a few moments I realized that 
 the song was indeed Omana Penne.
 
 He was playing the CD of VTV and said he loves all Rahman's music. Was raving 
 about how he has achieved so much at such a young age. Here's to the 
 universal appeal of the maestro.
 
 There's nothing new about Rahman's appeal cutting across language and 
 geographical distinctions, but to have experienced such a thing in first 
 person was truly memorable!





Re: [arr] Raavan does not appeal to the heart - Baradwaj Rangan reviews the music

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
Rajib,

Great post.  Completely agree with you.  I want to emphasize the word 
mature..

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@... wrote:

 Mr. Kishore ,Sachin Tendulker might have scored an 200 , that doesnt mean he
 cant get out on without scoring !!!
 
 Wake up !! Be a mature music listener !!
 
 I dont understand from where all these Deja Vu coming from ...when you are
 listening to Khwja and u r thinking this is sounding like satrangi re,then
 this will definitely sound like Satrangi re to YOU !! I found no
 similarities whatsoever !!
 
 And he saw Vishal vardwaj's presence in Raavan/Rahman !! What a joke !!
 
 On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 12:08 PM, kishore parayath 
 kishore.paray...@... wrote:
 
 
 
  Now our friends will start criticizing Bharadwaj Rangan. The SAME people
  who praised him for VINNAI THAANDI VARUVAYA review!!
 
  
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 - Regards
 
 ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~





[arr] Re: Would Kata Kata's rural hindi belt ethnicity fit the Tamil version

2010-05-02 Thread vimaljk
well..to be fair..we don't know which was composed first..

also...remember how Rahman made Yaro yarodi into Chalka re...same tune..but 
minor variations made it so different...imo Rahman improved yaro yarodi with 
chalka re..same goes for all the Saathiya soundtrack...rare soundtrack where 
remake beat the originalanother example is how the Jodi songs sounded 
better then Doli Saja Ke Rakna...changing singers and minor variations make a 
big difference!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ganpy ga...@... wrote:

 Hey Rawat...
 
 I have been thinking about this from the first time I listened to Kata Kata. 
 The song bleeds North Indian folksy flavor from all sides..so it will 
 absolutely be alien (audio by itself) to the Tamil or the Telugu audience. 
 But Mani is capable of doing his magic through his visuals and presenting 2 
 different sets of marriage ceremonies/cultural nuances for the same tune  
 with different lyrics..
 
 Or better if Rahman indeed comes up with mild variations for the South Indian 
 version...! Better only because the song by itself may have a farther reach 
 than the Hindi version.
 
 -Ganpy.
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:
 
  Kata Kata has not just lyrics but the entire tune of especially Ila 
  Arun's part in pure rural hindi belt ethnicity.
  
  I wonder how it would fit in the Tamil version, or would ARR change 
  the tune also along with lyrics to make it reflect the marriages in 
  Tamil culture.
  
  Vairamuthu is also going to have tough time finding Tamil words for 
  such chaste rural hindi terms like bohari (broom) and dand-wund pelo 
  (do push ups). I request in advance to you to give the tamil lyrics 
  and english translation of this particular song as soon as possible.
  
  If ARR retains the same tune in Tamil as it is in Hindi version, Tamil 
  listeners would get a glimpse of Hindi culture.
  
  At the same time, I personally think that ARR should change the tune 
  from hindi belt specific things to Tamil belt ethnicity things for the 
  reasons that
  1. that will be a different song thus another treat to us.
  2. I think a Tamil speaking person might not even realize that it is 
  the traditions and ethnicity of Hindi belt, and he might consider it 
  another music and like or not like (not possible though) it. It is the 
  way meenakshi's chinnaka rakkamma song that was south india specific 
  in opening, and I have heard that there was a play of words how the 
  same names are called in Tamil and Telugu, thus some meaning there, 
  but I couldn't get it at all and these remained just different 
  independent names for me, and so for other non tamil-telugu guys, I 
  guess. So, changing the lyrics to incorporate things that happen in 
  tamil marriages would be recommended, though that would again bring 
  the problem of continuity as the characters in the film would be 
  either south indian or north indian, and also as per the song shooting 
  location, it would be odd to show tamil marriage taking place in a 
  hindi belt setting.
  
  I am confused about this. let's see how ARR resolves all this.
  
  Thanks.
  --
  Rawat
 





Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread raj
/* And Mr.Nagraj... no one asked you to rave an ARR composition. ..we all know 
what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an 
ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just 
like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions there 
than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper...
give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol
wake up brother(s).. .
*/
My point is this. Raving/bashing should addressed and treated in the same way. 
And your point me not liking an album is out of topic as I am not discussing my 
liking/disliking. Why get personal( my ear,my creative abilities) on a public 
forum for expressing a opinion about an album/product?



--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, harsha vardhan harshaa_vard...@... wrote:

 Mr.Rawat, you said you love to hate two ARR songs - 'no problem' and 'chiggy 
 wiggy'...what i say is you can even hate 'roja'...no one can force you to 
 love anything...its a conscience thing...
 if you expect another kadal rojave (roja jaaneman) in blue...sorry ARR is not 
 your cup of tea..you can't even fit 'tere bina' in blue else ARR could 've 
 done that by your wish (looks like the listeners are more talented than the 
 creator himself). blue is not an album that is musically demanding...its a 
 film score and it needed music that can enhance the subject within certain 
 limitations...
 ARR did just what it needed , he did just what roja needed and he is just 
 doing what every film is demanding...i don't think he has ever done music for 
 the people,its just that we are fortunate enough to grasp some brilliance at 
 least ,from his compositions all these years...i believe, at least you know 
 that the man himself knows better than what we all know ,what he has to 
 deliver ,looking at what he has done all these years...
 And Mr.Nagraj...no one asked you to rave an ARR composition...we all know 
 what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an 
 ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just 
 like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions 
 there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper...
 give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol
 wake up brother(s)...
 
 --- On Sun, 5/2/10, raj arr_naga...@... wrote:
 
 From: raj arr_naga...@...
 Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:48 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing about 
 it. Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone saying 
 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is unacceptable. 
 Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so sensitive in hearing 
 why blue doesn't work for someone.
 
 
 
 Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here?
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purevibz@ . wrote:
 
 
 
  Good point, Gomzy.  Couldn't have said it better!
 
  
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@  wrote:
 
  
 
   The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they
 
   believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that 
   maybe
 
   this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves 
   first.
 
   
 
   On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:
 
   
 
   
 
   
 
Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members
 
are immersed in Raavan and praising it.
 
   
 
I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?
 
   
 
Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not
 
just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly
 
songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper
 
differences.
 
   
 
I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically
 
great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to
 
weave the songs as a single fabric
 
   
 
On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified album. There is a
 
underlying common theme in all songs that suggests it could be a
 
single song running for 30 minutes in raavan. Raavan is earthly.
 
Raavan has given us our ARR of 10-15 years ago back to us.
 
   
 
Raavan has generated a long thread on thiruda thiruda and all movies
 
of ARR-Mani got discussed.
 
   
 
Raavan is launching people on a rendezvous, down memory lane, old is
 
gold, back to the basics.
 
   
 
Raavan is making people rediscover and re-explore ARR.
 
   
 
What else was discussed with blue? Nothing at all, except that it was
 
a technically great album having new types of sounds.
 
   
 
I think all those 

[arr] is this genuine?

2010-05-02 Thread rahmaniacsuresh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXzrLdhki5Afeature=player_embedded#!

I am not sure its by AR? havent heard any news about it...i doubt it..



[arr] Preview of Kodu Poatta (Thok De)

2010-05-02 Thread Vinayakam Murugan
http://www.facebook.com/arrahman

Warm Regards
~~~
Vinayak

http://www.flickr.com/photos/rightplacerighttime/


Re: [arr] Again comparison!!!

2010-05-02 Thread V S Rawat
On 5/2/2010 11:44 PM India Time, _aneesh ani_ wrote:

 Again idiotic comparison,this is d reply to the guy who have compared tokde 
 gilli with jai ho n ranjha ranjha with ringa ringa.hw can u compare these 
 songs all are entirely different.dnt post rubbish things.new guys r posting 
 such things,pls stop these idiotic comparisons.
 jai ho raavan


Buddy, I think use of such terms as idiotic, rubbish things etc. 
is totally uncalled for.

A person gets some thoughts and he spends times and effort to collect 
to them, to write them down and to post to share with us, he deserves 
some respect and a protection of his freedom of speech even if we 
don't agree to the content.

I don't even remember which post that was you are mentioning, but if 
he has given specific points for comparison or differences, then it 
was up to us to consider and analyze his arguments instead of just 
censoring that comparison is not possible.

Whoever that original poster was, I apologize to him on behalf of this 
group. Please do keep writing.

Thanks.
--
Rawat


Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration

2010-05-02 Thread AJ
Ultimately, the perception and judgment of music is subjective.  Here, we share 
our thoughts and opinions, agree and disagree. That's it.  For ARR, whether an 
album fails or not, he moves on.  We should move on too.enjoy what we 
enjoy, celebrate an album, otherwise leave the rest and wait for the next one.  
Keep the larger picture in mind..ARR's magical creativity still continues 
strong today and we still love his music overall, whether we like a particular 
album or not.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj arr_naga...@... wrote:

 /* And Mr.Nagraj... no one asked you to rave an ARR composition. ..we all 
 know what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an 
 ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just 
 like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions 
 there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper...
 give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol
 wake up brother(s).. .
 */
 My point is this. Raving/bashing should addressed and treated in the same 
 way. And your point me not liking an album is out of topic as I am not 
 discussing my liking/disliking. Why get personal( my ear,my creative 
 abilities) on a public forum for expressing a opinion about an album/product?
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, harsha vardhan harshaa_vardhan@ wrote:
 
  Mr.Rawat, you said you love to hate two ARR songs - 'no problem' and 
  'chiggy wiggy'...what i say is you can even hate 'roja'...no one can force 
  you to love anything...its a conscience thing...
  if you expect another kadal rojave (roja jaaneman) in blue...sorry ARR is 
  not your cup of tea..you can't even fit 'tere bina' in blue else ARR could 
  've done that by your wish (looks like the listeners are more talented than 
  the creator himself). blue is not an album that is musically 
  demanding...its a film score and it needed music that can enhance the 
  subject within certain limitations...
  ARR did just what it needed , he did just what roja needed and he is just 
  doing what every film is demanding...i don't think he has ever done music 
  for the people,its just that we are fortunate enough to grasp some 
  brilliance at least ,from his compositions all these years...i believe, at 
  least you know that the man himself knows better than what we all know 
  ,what he has to deliver ,looking at what he has done all these years...
  And Mr.Nagraj...no one asked you to rave an ARR composition...we all know 
  what his music is...if you din't like it, its just that you lack an 
  ear...simply because i don't think you are as big creator as ARR...its just 
  like- the man who stepped onto the moon knows better about the conditions 
  there than the ones reading the same news in the newspaper...
  give some respect to this 'upcoming' musician, he 'll learn from us...lol
  wake up brother(s)...
  
  --- On Sun, 5/2/10, raj arr_nagaraj@ wrote:
  
  From: raj arr_nagaraj@
  Subject: Re: [arr] Blue vs Raavan: curing the oscar aberration
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:48 AM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   
  
  
  

  
  
  


If someone doesn't like an album whats the problem in expressing 
  about it. Someone raving about an album endlessly is acceptable and someone 
  saying 'this album doesn't work for me for so and so reasons' is 
  unacceptable. Weird. Rest need to introspect as well why people are so 
  sensitive in hearing why blue doesn't work for someone.
  
  
  
  Is Raving about an album the only accepted message out here?
  
  
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, AJ purevibz@ . wrote:
  
  
  
   Good point, Gomzy.  Couldn't have said it better!
  
   
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@  wrote:
  
   
  
The problem with certain people is that if they dont like an album, they
  
believe no one else should. Not even for a second do they think, that 
maybe
  
this is not my cup of tea. Maybe they need to interospect themselves 
first.
  

  
On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:38 AM, V S Rawat vsrawat@ wrote:
  

  

  

  
 Several members had appreciated Blue music. And now, the same members
  
 are immersed in Raavan and praising it.
  

  
 I wonder what exactly one sees/ listens in an album to appreciate it?
  

  
 Blue and Raavan are quite different. And the difference in them is not
  
 just technical difference like a difference in classical or bolly
  
 songs that one can like some of both categories. There are deeper
  
 differences.
  

  
 I think the difference in blue and RAavan is that Blue was technically
  
 great without a soul, there was no inherent unity in those songs to
  
 weave the songs as a single fabric
  

  
 On the opposite extreme, Raavan is a unified 

[arr] Non ARR: general software query

2010-05-02 Thread V S Rawat
I have winamp 2.8, that repeats entire playlist. Sometimes I would 
like to repeat only a single song instead of 5-6 songs of an ARR album 
that I had put in the playlist, but winamp doesn't allow me to do so. 
I have to delete all other songs from the playlist and again load them 
when i want them all to get played.

Any free music player software you know about, that allows me to 
repeat the entire playment sometime as well allow to repeat a single 
song in a playlist. I have GOM player also as someone had suggested in 
this group, and vlc also, but haven't explored whether they have this 
feature that I need.

Thanks.
--
Rawatt


[arr] (SemiARR) RAHMANIA show in Jim Corbett National Park !

2010-05-02 Thread DineshVaidya
Happy to inform you that The Wandering Souls is performing RAHMANIA show in 
Jim Corbett National Park on May 09. The group had 3 days of 7 hour each 
practice sessions in Pune recently and from the look of it, this programme is 
going to be a great one !!!

TWS has added following new songs in this programme apart from the regular ones 
which they perform,

1. Jai HO - SDM
2. Dreams on Fire - SDM
3. Pappu can't dance - JTYJN
4. Chinamma Chilkamma - Meenaxi
5. Aye Bachhoo - Ghajani

The group, led by double National award winner Anmol Bhave and comprising of 3 
male singers / 3 female singers / 3 keyboardist / 3 percussionist / 2 guitarist 
+ one mendolin player / one flautist / 2 sound engineers will leave for Delhi 
and onwards to National park on 7'th May.

Wishing THE WANDERING SOULS Jai HO from all RAHMANIACS !

Best regards
Dinesh Vaidya
Pune



[arr] Re: Jai Jai Garvi Gujarat

2010-05-02 Thread DineshVaidya
Can we know the credits of this song, as the singers, song composer,  recording 
studio, sound programmers etc ?

Swapnil ki Jai HO ! Was he one of the singer ?

best regards
Dinesh Vaidya
Pune

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ~ s...@... ~ swaps15...@... wrote:

 Gives me immense pleasure n pride that ARR's composed this wonderful song for 
 Gujarat Day...its quite refreshing n melodious as compared 2 the original 
 tune..(which is in Raga Bhairavi)...mostly its sung by Keerti Sagathia (son 
 of legendary Guj. folk singer Karsan Sagathia, who also sang Kesariya Balam 
 from movie 'DORR)beautiful composition n arngmnts
 Jai Ho!!!Jai Swarnim Gujarat...swaps





Re: [arr] Mediocre/Average score by ARR for Raavan

2010-05-02 Thread Karthik Subramaniam
Also keep in mind that the appeal or lack of it of music also depends to a
certain extent on your frame of mind. If there is somethign bothering you
and you aren't opening up to the music, you might not like it much. Happend
to me with Yuvvraaj. There was too much stuff going on at work at the time
Yuvvraaj released. The music sounded bad. But then, once the issue was
sorted out, I was more relaxed, the music hit me like a breath of fresh air.
Give it some time. If you still don't like it, like AJ says, better luck
next time :)

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:33 PM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote:



   I have been listening to Raavan for the last 2 weeks since its release.
 Initially i liked only Beera, rest all were very normal and i thought i will
 like all the songs after hearing more. I am disappointed to say after about
 100 times of hearings, I am still unable to absorb Raavan's songs. This is
 the 1st time i am stuck like this with AR. I am very depressed regarding
 this. All the albums of ARR take time to grow but this Album is not getting
 into my heart and mind and the push to hear the songs again is not
 happening. Ranja, Thokde, Kata Kata - all are very average tracks and the
 Soul is missing in these songs. Sorry to say this, but i couldn't avoid
 saying this also. I am surprised, amazed that this is a score for a
 MANIRATNAM film who introduced ARR and he has given the best for Mani. Again
 this is only my opinion and i'm not thrusting it upon you. Overall, average
 effort by ARR and waiting to hear the next time they both join hands. Come
 on ARR, you are the best, you will always deliver the best !

  



Re: [arr] ARRs Gujarat song available for download

2010-05-02 Thread Anand Joshi

Hi Imthaz

Gujarat is one of the 28 states of India and it was a part of Maharashtra. 
Gujarat was founded on May 1st,1960, So it was Gujarat State's 50th birthday so 
this song was composed by ARR sir to celebrate the occasion

Anand.
--- On Sun, 5/2/10, Imthaz Ahamed imthazaha...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Imthaz Ahamed imthazaha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [arr] ARRs Gujarat song available for download
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:55 PM







 



  



  
  
  Hey i am not from India, can anyone explain me why this song was 
composed? and what is Gujarat day?It seems to be a nice song :D

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail. com wrote:

















 



  



  
  
  sounds like a nice feel good song. vocals of the lead singer is quite 
good as well.
http://www.narendra modi.in/







 









  











 





 



  






  

Re: [arr] Non ARR: general software query

2010-05-02 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||
http://www.foobar2000.org

Best audio player ever! ;)

 
 The search is more important than the destination 
- a r rahman -





From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com
To: arrf arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, 3 May, 2010 9:45:03 AM
Subject: [arr] Non ARR: general software query

  
I have winamp 2.8, that repeats entire playlist. Sometimes I would 
like to repeat only a single song instead of 5-6 songs of an ARR album 
that I had put in the playlist, but winamp doesn't allow me to do so. 
I have to delete all other songs from the playlist and again load them 
when i want them all to get played.

Any free music player software you know about, that allows me to 
repeat the entire playment sometime as well allow to repeat a single 
song in a playlist. I have GOM player also as someone had suggested in 
this group, and vlc also, but haven't explored whether they have this 
feature that I need.

Thanks.
--
Rawatt

 



[arr] Usurae Pogudhey...

2010-05-02 Thread Ip Boy
Will Usurae Pogudhey be this decades's Kadhal Rojave as i can feel both songs 
having same feeling...



  

[arr] Re: Non ARR: general software query

2010-05-02 Thread satish_srini
Hi Rawat,

You should be able to do this in winamp. There is a button which toggles
song or playlist repeating and you have to click this button twice to
repeat just a single song. Hope this helps.

Satish


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote:

 I have winamp 2.8, that repeats entire playlist. Sometimes I would
 like to repeat only a single song instead of 5-6 songs of an ARR album
 that I had put in the playlist, but winamp doesn't allow me to do so.
 I have to delete all other songs from the playlist and again load them
 when i want them all to get played.

 Any free music player software you know about, that allows me to
 repeat the entire playment sometime as well allow to repeat a single
 song in a playlist. I have GOM player also as someone had suggested in
 this group, and vlc also, but haven't explored whether they have this
 feature that I need.

 Thanks.
 --
 Rawatt