Re: [arr] Re: Mr Gopal whts ur thought on ENDHIRAN
lol @ naz n amith :D On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 09:00 IST Amith Chandhran wrote: Now *what* is remaining there to comment...! :-) - On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:26 AM, nazeef mohammed nazeef.moham...@gmail.comwrote: Gopal has become a kid and is enjoying Endhiran songs! His favorite apparently is Kadhal Annukal as it's got all lyrics that his teachers talk in school! Gopal bro...atleast now comment bro!! :)
[arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only
Taimur, what exactly do u mean by immature and outdated? Most of us don't see immaturity anywhere in the album. Can you please enlighten us? Most of us can visually feel the situation of all songs and all songs are already giving us a feel of the movie, which is exactly what the music must do! You can't have some Balleilakka type intro song here. :| and what exactly is robotic music, forget 1980s robotic music. Kindly give me a few examples of 'robotic music'. I would agree if you did not like Kilimanjaro since its the only misfit in the album. Every other song, music wise, lyrics wise gives the feel of the movie. Yet, you like Kilimanjaro the best. Seems like there is a confusion in what you are looking for. Kishore, If you say stuff like u are totally unable to interpret what we mean and use terms like Innovative Equivalence, it doesn't make us intellectually inferior to you... nor would we doubt our intellectual capacity and start disliking the album just because you dont like it . The point is Enthiran is World class! If you are unable to appreciate it, just accept it, state it if you want and move on... instead of trying to make us feel like we are a bunch of dunderheads for liking the album... God Bless! Jai Ho! Subramanian --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@... wrote: the most immature and outdated music by A R RAHMAN ever , is what my review is of endhiran after listenig it quiet a few days now. 1) Not a single mesmerizing musical sound in the whole album. 2) what is 80s robotic music doing in 2010. A R RAHMAN is a revolutionary in music how he could go back to that outdated sounds. i thought the maestro will come up with a new ultra futuristic sound for robot but.. 3) what in the world has happened to A R RAHMANs music of songs, same slumdog millionairish type sounds. i am fed up. 4) No song can be called a masterpiece in any sense. creativity lacking, such songs and music is been heard many times before. 5) Seems to me songs were never worked out at all looks to me a draft work was done and then released. 6) listen to the hindi version , O my GOD cant shankar hire a better lyrcist , embarrassing lyrics. 7) Worst ALBUM of the Shankar AR R combo . 8) Sweetness is getting rarer n rarer in A R RAHMAN songs.the midas touch is missing. KILIMANJARO AND KADAL ANUKKAL were the songs i liked but i getting bored from them now .hope Gopal you post it . the storm praise is flooding for what i dont know. Shankar HAS COMPLETELY directed RAHMAN sir wrongly. only kids could like such an album. regards, taimur
Re: [arr] Endhiran for kids only
But to say the album is for kids, was kind of unbearable and an insult to us who r loving it tremendously. Exactly! http://www.facebook.com/pages/Indian-Movie-BGMS/146146955399503 http://indian-music-bgm.blogspot.com/ Please do not add me in YM. I only use this account for the group... --- On Wed, 8/4/10, Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Dinesh Scaran dinesh.sca...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Endhiran for kids only To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, August 4, 2010, 8:49 PM Taimur and Kishore, its ok to be dissapointed over the album. But to say the album is for kids, was kind of unbearable and an insult to us who r loving it tremendously. Seriously, the album had the typical Shankar - A.R.Rahman combo punch. I feel i was listening to a Kadhalan + Boys album. Very youthful (Kadhalan) and modern (Boys) as well. I will post my review soon, ofcource it wont be musically detailed, but it will be filled with praises and some critics along it. In short, Endhiran is the most youthful and futuristic album from A.R.Rahman since Boys. Period. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, prakash krishnan praka_h...@... wrote: if the songs are not gud for hearing then please wait for the movie release..Shankar sir always uses the songs well...just remember athiradee kalam what a video!!! From: Manaf â„¢ mana...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 5 August, 2010 12:39:47 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Endhiran for kids only Too much expectation cause disappointment ., Robert Lynd, On 8/4/10, ravi ravis...@... wrote: Your silence was the most sweetest thing. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ wrote: You know Y I was silent?? I was waiting for TAIMUR's post!! And he has conveyed EXACTLY what I felt! Definitely a treat of kids! But, for us, ARR himself designed an UltraModern taste! But now, totally hez going against them. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:54 AM, RaijenB raijen03@ wrote: whtever ur telling!! its STRANGE!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nadeem@ wrote: the most immature and outdated music by A R RAHMAN ever , is what my review is of endhiran after listenig it quiet a few days now. 1) Not a single mesmerizing musical sound in the whole album. 2) what is 80s robotic music doing in 2010. A R RAHMAN is a revolutionary in music how he could go back to that outdated sounds. i thought the maestro will come up with a new ultra futuristic sound for robot but.. 3) what in the world has happened to A R RAHMANs music of songs, same slumdog millionairish type sounds. i am fed up. 4) No song can be called a masterpiece in any sense. creativity lacking, such songs and music is been heard many times before. 5) Seems to me songs were never worked out at all looks to me a draft work was done and then released. 6) listen to the hindi version , O my GOD cant shankar hire a better lyrcist , embarrassing lyrics. 7) Worst ALBUM of the Shankar AR R combo . 8) Sweetness is getting rarer n rarer in A R RAHMAN songs.the midas touch is missing. KILIMANJARO AND KADAL ANUKKAL were the songs i liked but i getting bored from them now .hope Gopal you post it . the storm praise is flooding for what i dont know. Shankar HAS COMPLETELY directed RAHMAN sir wrongly. only kids could like such an album. regards, taimur -- Sent from my mobile device * * *Regards MANAF +97155 - 8914693*
Re: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only (To the thread starter)
Hey stop kidding man..For kids the students of KMMC already composed some brilliant rhymes, Rhyme skool Vol1 featuring katrina kaif..which got released recently on sa re ga ma under AR's supervision. Please do buy. --- On Thu, 8/5/10, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote: From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:03 AM On 8/5/2010 8:11 AM India Time, _chelva kumar_ wrote: Simple - ARR was rushed to compose the songs for Enthiran due to its early release timeline...maybe kaadhal anukkal was the only 1 he had the time to really sit and do his magic... ARR has never compromised the quality he provides to meet deadlines. Why would he do it now? Two years ago, he gave 6 albums in one year. This year it is 3 albums only so far. why can he not be having time? Remember, 1947 Earth's Ishwar Allah was composed in one day, and Raavan's ud ja re was composed in one night. They are great songs. It is inspiration that expedites the creation of a wonderful song. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Which ARR album surprised you the most?
Dude, don't generalise your personal tastes here..and the word 'worst' is highly offensive..please refrain from using such words in the future..kaise mujhe is one of the best melancholies AR ahs ever composed and Ghajini is one kickass album. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:14 AM, kishore parayath kishore.parayath@ gmail.com wrote: On postive notes, I have already mentioned Rangeela and Thiruda Thiruda to be the biggest surprises! On a negative note Ghajini was the WORST! According to me, Ghajini is ARR's worst work, in terms of orchestration, tunes and interludes. Kaise mujhe was not bad, but not the best. It was the ONLY better song in the album. Then, the most recent surpise was Rehnuma from Blue. The song totally took me to another world. One of the all time best tracks of ARR!! The song actually deserves its place in the title credits of a great bond movie. It would have re-written the history of Bond songs. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:23 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo. co.in wrote: I never get surprise by ARR albums when they r good, excellent, mindblowing etc. I get surprise when ARR albums don't stand up to the expectations e.g. Mangalpanday (biggest expectations ever n biggest disaster n disappoinment ever for me). --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2001@ ... wrote: BOYS..it was released after parashuram.. I was so disinterested even to buy and listen..I only listened in my brother's walkman after a week...and then I slapped myself. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:46 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo. com wrote: Â Which ARR album totally surprised you the most, being the most deviant from your expectations either in a positive or negative direction? We ALL have certain expectations and ideas about an ARR album before its release...just wondering which album caught you off guard the most in a good or bad way! I have to think about this myself too! -- Regards MANAF +97155 - 8914693 -- www.gomzyphotograph y.com
Re: [arr] ROBO (Telugu) audio Launch on 7th August
Cd is already released officially
Re: [arr] ENDHIRAN Audio Launch on SunTV this weekend!???????
Exact Date Please... I know this Sunday, 6pm on GEMINI TV the ROBO - Telugu Music Audio release,same program but with Telugu songs will be dubbed telecasted... So let me know is the program on Saturday or Sunday on SUNTV?? Regards Sirish On 8/4/10, Neevan vyrus_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys SunTV is telecasting ENDHIRAN Audio Launch on this Sat and Sun from 6pm! Can someone help record the broadcast in HQ and share it with the rest of the group via mediafire or 4shared pls! I am sure many of us want to watch the event in good quality! Regards Neevan -- Friendship is not about finding the right person, but creating the right relationship. Its not how much we care in the beginning, but how much we care till the end. Sirish Musician.
[arr] Rahman’s next Hollywood project (Street Dan cing) stuck
Rahman’s next Hollywood project stuck Just a couple of months after music maestro AR Rahman had revealed that he was working on a Hollywood project called Street Dancing, with English musician and record producer Dave Stewart, it is learnt that the project may not materialise now Entertainment and the movie’s producer elaborates on the development, “We’ve been developing the movie for a while and both Rahman and Dave Stewart have done some songs for it, but since we started working on the project, two or three movies on street dancing have already come out and another one has been announced. “If we go ahead with our movie, then it may have no impact at all and we don’t want to be fourth in line for a movie on a particular subject,” Amritraj says. “So we are evaluating things at the moment. We are also thinking of reworking the project, if possible.” Though Rahman’s work on this project may go in vain, Amritraj says that he’s going to continue looking for opportunities to work with the Mozart of Madras. Calling Rahman a “true crossover star”, Amitraj says, “I’ve worked with Rahman long ago in Jeans and he’s been a friend since then. He’s the most exciting talent to have come out of India, and whenever there’s a movie that has a cross-cultural feel to it, I’ll definitely be working with him”. When asked if he’d like to do a musical based on India with Rahman, Amritraj chuckles, “I’ve been looking for a story for ages now. If scriptwriters can come up with interesting material or fun, sweeping stories set between India and the west, I’d be the first one to produce it.” http://www.hindustantimes.com/Rahman-s-next-Hollywood-project-stuck/Article1-582572.aspx
[arr] Irumbile...Hypnotic!!!
Listening to this on continuous loop... Countless number of kudos to Lady Kash n Krishy - I'm hypnotized by your singing!!! Need more and more from you...And no words to express how I feel when AR sings Saadhal illa saabam vaangi followed by a more apt rap by Kash n Krishy...It just takes me somewhere!...And finally, another countless number of kudos to Madan Karki for such simple yet unheard lyrics!! A perfect club song!!! -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] it's so refreshing in Kadhal Anukkal
Wow...its like a breath of fresh air On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:01 PM, director79k director...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey guys.. Jus like everyone else i am slowly listening to enthiran songs and trying to like them and yes..the songs are nice... but... i have yet to feel the punch the punch tat was in VTV.. i feel instead of comparing or just throwing an album out..we have to dwell deep into why the songs are such... One things is for sure ...A.R.Rahman is bored... he aint a robot who could just go on churning out duet songs after duet songs... if you guys notice the films he did music very well for were the films which was different and most importantly inspiring... sometimes he has no choice... n yes he brings out some decent songs... but we cant relate to it well cos we have been touched by his magic before so we know his capacity ... To me he is the same just not getting great movies esp down south for him to score gemsok enough abt tat... Did you guys notice this loop in Kadhal anukkal ... gosh its now a put off for me each time i listen to it... i think it's a sample of a lady saying woah! It's so refreshing.It happens at 4:00 min.I dont know why ARR left tat full loop there.. i mean the woah part was jus nice... i think some last min editing... guess he missed it.Can you guyes hear it. sadly it was a nice song... with tat loop it sounds like some advert cutting across the song. :(
[arr] endhiran
Hi! again iam here,as some music heavyweights are lamenting about the inferior score for this kolly.tollybollywood robot by ARR when compared to some of the hollywood robots.YES IT IS TRUE. Western robots had a whale of time prancing dancing with julia roberts,angelinajolie etc, to the trendy innovative tunes set by john williams,jerrygoldsmith,hanszimmer co.I suggest the music heavy weight to please post about the extraordinary award winning hollywood ROBOT soundtracks he has been in awe with, and enlighten us. Arguments clarifications apart please understand that after R.D.BURMAN as far as INDIA is concerned, the only M-D to have been widely accepted from kashmir to kanyakumargujarat to sikkim is ,you know it silly!our M-D has many times more reach than RD BURMAN QUANTITATIVELY AS WELL AS QUALITATIVELY.This is strictly speaking within INDIA only and ARRS international reach is there for everybody to see.Our own ex maestro could not go beyond vindhyas ,leave alone crossing the bay of bengal or arabian sea.The symphony which was created amidst a lot of fanfare hype has never seen the light till date.SEE,if that is the case of this great maestro [at least he has some decent music[ somewhat original]to his credit, the present MDs are just glorified extras or replicas of-[WHOM] YOU KNOW SILLY!THE ONLY M-D who has handled and directed almost all the top line classical musicians of this country, THE ONLY M-D who has received countless prestigious nationalinternational awards, THE ONLY M-D who was asked to write music for a west end musical by another knighted musical legend,THE ONLY M-D who is being pursued by almost every movie director of this country,THE ONLY M-D who has a place among TIME magazines all time top10 movie soundtracks with his maiden movie score,and above all THE ONLY M-D whose albums are being anticipated and received with a frenzied devotion joy and my GOD! the most important one i have omitted, THE ONLY M-D,NO,THE ONLY MOST SUCCESSFUL PERSON WITH THE LEAST OR NO EGO AT ALL AND WITH MANY UNBELIEVABLE SAINTLY QUALITIES is the one and only M-D_ WE ADORE AND LOOK FORWARD TO SHARE MANY MORE MUSICAL BLISSFUL YEARS TO COME. THANK YOU
Re: [arr] A small request...Think before you bash Endhiran's music...
One has to understand that Endiran isn't a movie like Hollywood sci-fi movies. Its done with Indian audience perspective in mind. Do you think calling Endhiran music as music for kids is anything less than glorified bashing? What is your opinion for a person who wrote a review which was worst than ever. Now lets come to the point when somebody writes a harsh review on music and calls it as his expression of opinion and then gets harsh feedback as opinion on his writing? why does somebody have to take the shelter of claiming no rights for expression? The person who writes the opinion should be ready to take opinion of others when expressed. Why does the reviewer not like the review for his writing or cant welcome, why should that he consider that as a criticism? And coming to Hollywood scores I can still listen to the older sound formats even by the legendary composers for Sci-Fi sometimes I hear repeated sound itself. And as a person working in music we are required to do this because we have to make people imagine the scene with the obvious sound. If I am given a liberty to score what ever I want I just cant use elephant trumpet kind of sound or Goat sound for the scene where a Robot walks and mix it in the name of creativity experimentation no matter how influential as a composer or arranger one would have been. I dont remember any songs for Robot / Sci-fi movie done by Hollywood artists for a movie score unless its an independent sound track done by various artists and then included as original soundtrack. The case of Endhiran unfortunately isn't the one like how Sci-Fi movies are done in Hollywood. Here songs are the part of the movie and the supposed Robot is Rajni. Its easy to write opinion because the one who does that would never have experienced the pain and never would have undergone the limitation, influence, pressure of what its felt to deliver the product. Always remember an artist is also a human like us, paying a petty amount for the movie or for its sound track doesn't authorize us to treat them like servants. We who have bashed the opinions have never bashed the opinion but the way it was expressed. And every mail from such bashers says the same thing. We dont bother whether one likes or dislikes the song, instead we write when somebody has used derogatory expressions. I dont wish to argue more. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@... wrote: No one is bashing here! Everyone has the freedom to express his views. Infact, it is the community members who are 'bashing' some people here, who express their honest views. And regarding the music required for a sci-fi subject. Please refer the scores of sci-fi movies produced in Hollywood. Then U would understand what is required for such a subject. And we all know, that ARR is capable of doing much more than many of those Hollywood composers. Iam enjoying the sounds in Endhiran and the layering in Arima Arima. Also, I like Endhiran more than Sivaji... Juz because, Endhiran has the sounds which I expected in Sivaji. Very enjoyable. But certainly the concepts and genres are very old (Unusually from ARR). We would love ARR trying such genres... But we dont want ARR to follow the textbook format.. We want him in the Rahmantic way.. Always like a mad musical scientist like how CHORD qoutes many times. Remember when ARR experimented with jazz in Iruvar?? Did he ever follow the style, established by the legends of Jazz back in the 70's and 80's ?? No.. He went into mad experimentation giving masterpieces like vennilaa vennillaa which would even leave the jazz legends awestruck;and also resulting in some hybrid tracks like 'Aayirathil Naan Oruvan' and 'Kannai Katti', where *'Dave Brubeck met MS Vishwanathan'*. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM, yeshrao81 yeshra...@... wrote: Lot of you are complaining Endhiran is childish, depressing, repetitive in sound,not even a single memorable tune blah blah blah... Guys common give it a thought...What type of score would you expect for a sci-fi? It is very apt and once the movie releases, this would be sounding great with the visuals... Besides this, also note that every human has creative limitationsARR cannot be endlessly creative in giving master pieces like Dilse or Taal at every attempt...arent we demanding s much...? To me even if I see the last 3 albums - VTV, Raavan, Endhiran...each and every song was uniqueHow can the same man giving us Aromale to Khili Re to Pudhiya Manidha to Hosanna to Behne De to Irumbile. To me this is mindblowing creativity... Man still does he not satisfy you with all your musical needs? All I am asking is, have some thought before you write something negative on ARR...imagine the stress ARRs mind must be undergoing to create one tune after the other and make it match the movie script, satisfy the mass fans, satisfy the super
[arr] A.R.Rahman- the epitome of a true music virtuoso
With the heavy workload for the past 1 month, I hardly had any time to spend on myself no movies, no hangouts with friends, no chatting and/or interacting on the net, and no music :( So, when the last of my assignments were sent in last Friday, my mind was all set to embrace the activities that I've missed thus far. Call it fate, but Endhiran's audio release was set at a time when I desired the much-needed emancipation from the maddening world and boy, what a relief it brought to my life. Honestly speaking, I wasn't expecting much from Endhiran soundtracks. Western, particularly techno music has never been my favorite. Why, even when the whole world went ga-ga over the funky Hello Doctor and Kalloori Salai (when Kadhal Desam was released), I've been more moved by the blissful Thendrale and Anbe Anbe from the same film. And with the kind of film Enthiran was anticipated to be, I was very sure that there weren't going to be any soulful melodies in the tracks. Nevertheless, Enthiran is definitely an album which stands tall among others, even as it continues to create a delightful impact on the listeners. Leaving the musical aspect of the album to the experts, I'm merely here to share my experience with the album. The album starts out with Puthiya Manidha, which also happens to be my favourite track. The prelude music, coupled the chanting of Puthiya Manidha in sci-fi tune (who is this guy?) and Kathijah's soulful voice creates a certain anticipation in yourself. Well, if you know ARR's music, then you'll definitely know that this number is just going to get bigger! And before you could stop thinking, the song hits you like a bang! SPB pushes into the front lane and with the occasional support from ARR, delivers a splendid performance. And yes, the whole song has a techno feel to it, but it's far from being loud and noisy. There's a life in this song, a soul waiting to embrace the world and by the end of the song, you know that Enthiran has born to rule the world. Kadhal Anukkal didn't create an impact on the first listen as Puthiya Manidha did to me. To begin with, it took me some time to realize that it's Vijay Prakash who delivering the number. Is he the same guy who sang Hossanna? He definitely sounds different. At times, I even felt that he was imitating Udit Narayan's way of singing. Maybe he's not but I certainly wasn't taken by his singing nor the song .at first. With repeated hearing, you realize what you've missed at the first listen. Sounds you've never heard before, the cheekiness in Vijay's voice, the joy in Shreya's and a positive vibrancy in the whole number. The song sound fresher after numerous hearing. It's my fault for dismissing Vijay too soon. He was amazing. Shreya was at her usual best, and leaves a distinguished mark with the way she loops around the notes at the end of the song. Wish she had continued singing the notes a little longer. I still don't listen to this number as much as I enjoyed listening to Puthiya Manidha, but yes, this is definitely a track to look out for. ARR switches back to techno with Irumbile oru Idhayam. The song exudes sci-fi and techno music at its best. Was I thinking that this would be soulful? A definite no, but surprisingly and funnily, it is. The whole idea about this number is to project a man who feels love blossoming from his heart of steel. ARR uses the right techno sounds to present the number. The high technology, sci-fi tune depicts the robot's inflexion, while the lyrics, regardless of how funny or techno centric they are, illustrate his feelings towards his lover. In fact, I would group Irumbile Oru Idhayam in the same category of Chitti Dance Showcase and Boom Boom Robo Da. They are definitely exciting; with amazing, crisp, clear, sci-fi sounds nevertheless, I failed to strike a chord with any of them. With the right visuals though, these songs would definitely create a rage in future, but for the time being, they stay at the bottom of my favorite track list. Arima Arima on the other hand belongs to a different genre. I must admit that the number has yet to grow on me but I'm starting to have a fondness on the grandiose that the number exudes. After a long time, Hariharan is back to ARR's camp and as usual, he deals the high notes with élan. Sadhana Sargam on the other hand, is someone I prefer to hear in softer melodies. For some reasons, I always found her voice to be a little annoying when sung in the higher notes. Then again, the arrangement of music in this number takes the front line as compared to the vocals. Such high-flying orchestration, such perfect crafting. The song belongs to neither Hariharan nor Sadhna Sargam this one belongs to the one and only ARR! Kilimanjaro is a surprise package in this album. It's a result of tribal music meeting modern melody. Both Javed Ali and Chinmayi seem to have loads of fun with this track. They sure sound different from their other numbers, Chinmayi especially. In fact, I must confess that
Re: [arr] ENDHIRAN Audio Launch on SunTV this weekend! (Pls help to record in HQ if possible)
Hi there ppls Hope someone can record in hd off Sun HD pls!!! HARDCORE RAHMANIAC TILL DA VERY END!!! --- On Wed, 4/8/10, Neevan vyrus_...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Neevan vyrus_...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] ENDHIRAN Audio Launch on SunTV this weekend! (Pls help to record in HQ if possible) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 6:45 PM Hey guys SunTV is telecasting ENDHIRAN Audio Launch on this Sat and Sun from 6pm! Can someone help record the broadcast in HQ and share it with the rest of the group via mediafire or 4shared pls! I am sure many of us want to watch the event in good quality! Regards Neevan
Re: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only
Cant help but feel like being in a war zone every time I check the group mails over the last 10 days. __ Cheers, Srini
Re: [arr] Irumbile - To Like or not to Like?
One thing i admire about Kishore and Taimur is they do not hesitate to write what they feel even after so many of attack them each and every time. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:22 AM, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com wrote: Iam just 22 bro.. Even I prefer variety and lots of deviation in a track. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:09 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: This song seems to be polarizing us into two campslike its and not like its. Some are raving about it saying it's the best song in the album. I can see why this song is so popular simply because it's so groove oriented and because ARR is singing it in a robotic voice. Hif ARR wasn't singing it, would it still be as liked? I wonder why ARR choose this song to sing. Maybe for diversity...wanted to try his voice on another techno track besides Fannah? Anyway, to me, the song is catchy, but that's it. Maybe if I were a teenager, I would like it more! Us oldies (in my 30s) like more variety in a track! -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Which ARR album surprised you the most?
Very well Gomzy... U have perfectly read my mind, and have perfectly phrased my feelings for the song. Yes, I 'remotedly' like Behka.. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: dont you remotely like behka ? On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 9:14 AM, kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com wrote: On postive notes, I have already mentioned Rangeela and Thiruda Thiruda to be the biggest surprises! On a negative note Ghajini was the WORST! According to me, Ghajini is ARR's worst work, in terms of orchestration, tunes and interludes. Kaise mujhe was not bad, but not the best. It was the ONLY better song in the album. Then, the most recent surpise was Rehnuma from Blue. The song totally took me to another world. One of the all time best tracks of ARR!! The song actually deserves its place in the title credits of a great bond movie. It would have re-written the history of Bond songs. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 4:23 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I never get surprise by ARR albums when they r good, excellent, mindblowing etc. I get surprise when ARR albums don't stand up to the expectations e.g. Mangalpanday (biggest expectations ever n biggest disaster n disappoinment ever for me). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, fani kalyan rythmdivine2...@... wrote: BOYS..it was released after parashuram..I was so disinterested even to buy and listen..I only listened in my brother's walkman after a week...and then I slapped myself. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:46 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo. com wrote: Â Which ARR album totally surprised you the most, being the most deviant from your expectations either in a positive or negative direction? We ALL have certain expectations and ideas about an ARR album before its release...just wondering which album caught you off guard the most in a good or bad way! I have to think about this myself too! -- Regards MANAF +97155 - 8914693 -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only (To the thread starter)
good1 Fani..! :D From: fani kalyan rythmdivine2...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 1:44:17 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only (To the thread starter) Hey stop kidding man..For kids the students of KMMC already composed some brilliant rhymes, Rhyme skool Vol1 featuring katrina kaif..which got released recently on sa re ga ma under AR's supervision. Please do buy. --- On Thu, 8/5/10, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail. com wrote: From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail. com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, August 5, 2010, 12:03 AM On 8/5/2010 8:11 AM India Time, _chelva kumar_ wrote: Simple - ARR was rushed to compose the songs for Enthiran due to its early release timeline...maybe kaadhal anukkal was the only 1 he had the time to really sit and do his magic... ARR has never compromised the quality he provides to meet deadlines. Why would he do it now? Two years ago, he gave 6 albums in one year. This year it is 3 albums only so far. why can he not be having time? Remember, 1947 Earth's Ishwar Allah was composed in one day, and Raavan's ud ja re was composed in one night. They are great songs. It is inspiration that expedites the creation of a wonderful song. -- Rawat
[arr] : Unbelievable.... Is it true? tell me from bottom of ur heart!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is the article in well knonwn Telugu site. Read this and share your views... please I don't believe... Is Mr. Rahman still to prove himself.. I don't think so... http://www.greatandhra.com/ganews/viewnews.php?id=22695cat=1scat=5 Regards, Srinivas Athivilli 09949343730
[arr] Semi ARR- Semi Endhiran : Issac Asimov
hi guys.. i was listening to the song Boom Boom Robo da and it mentioned Issac Asimov.. i was curious to find our more.. and really it opens a new knowledge for me.. :) many would have already know.. but for me it is entirely new.. The Three Laws of Robotics are as follows: 1. A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2. A robot must obey any orders given to it by human beings, except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3. A robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. More here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Asimov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics Just wanna share it with you guys.. ARR Rulez..
Re: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only
Hi ravis...@gmail.com, Very nice reply from you, constructive criticism is something people don't know the meaning of or the need for same fellow who criticize so badly can do it only in the internet, becos he really can't say this is any real forum(a public meeting or even in a friends group for eg).Since internet is place where anyone can speak anything anywhere becos nothing will really hurt/cost them here. In reality, even though we are a democratic country,even an newspaper can't criticize anyone so badly. So why do we need to allow this to happen at arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, I dont understand. - Ravi A. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 11:04 PM, ravi ravis...@gmail.com wrote: There is a Nostradamus in our group and his name is Gomzy and if one would check a mail from the very past where he replied to you when you were at the peak of praising Enthiran after hearing a small bit, that speaks all. Gomzy is right yet again. Immature is not AR's music but the listeners who want him to repeat Teekuruvi, and Thiruda Thiruda. 1. A genius must understand that this is a soundtrack of a movie and the songs are as what is required by the screenplay and the director. Probably Shankar doesn't like Theekuruvi kind of a song though AR would have said there is my loving fan who would like that kind of a song. 2. Do you have any album which has entirely different electronica (with robot sounds) which doesnt sound anything like the '80s? Would you mind if I say please ask Honda to give some sound loops which would be 2010 Robot pattern and that it doesn't sound like 80s. Majority of AR's current fans were the kids of 80s please note this. 3. You don't like him doing SDMish sounds do you like him to repeat older songs, might be mesmerizing? You probably don't understand how fed up are few members when they see your repeating mails. 4. Do you think creativity is lacking? What exactly do you mean? Even God has no creativity then, he keeps increasing humans who lack every possible good things on this earth. 5. Can you realize if a draft piece can be so great appreciated how could the final be? 6. Pls get in touch with the one who wrote lyrics and I would appreciate if you can say this to him directly. I would love to read your lyrics if you can write for one. 7. Definitely not. I am not a pessimist. 8. You cant expect that kind of a track here unless Shankar would demand one. Dont you think AR has done the song amma Thalle in the Theekuruvi style just because one of his fan, that you have been loving it so much. Did you any time give a thought about that? Now for all my friends. Pls understand that AR reads our posts and just imagine what kind of a pain are we giving for that person who is restless in entertaining us. He respects this forum, he treats our opinions as genuine feedback and suitable adapts his correction in the following album. Is this the kind of feedback that we should be giving for such a great human. Understand the greatness of his personality if not just for the music. If somebody has to give a feedback or an opinion its welcome but definitely not the kind which insults him or anything defamatory definitely not the one like what Arun Claus's sick review was and atleast not the one like the earlier. Dont you think that Ar has been changing experimenting based upon what we write here? Are we so harsh to our parents would you any time shout at your mother saying her cooking was Kiddish and nothing great from what it was since you had started to eat? Give valuable feedback which gives more information and suggestion, if you feel you are wasting money buying an AR album dont buy the next time its released, please. I definitely dont like sugar coated, exaggerated mails which I feel is written with an intention to draw attention of AR or his associates at the same time dont write harsh just with the same intention. This is my request, please. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@... wrote: the most immature and outdated music by A R RAHMAN ever , is what my review is of endhiran after listenig it quiet a few days now. 1) Not a single mesmerizing musical sound in the whole album. 2) what is 80s robotic music doing in 2010. A R RAHMAN is a revolutionary in music how he could go back to that outdated sounds. i thought the maestro will come up with a new ultra futuristic sound for robot but.. 3) what in the world has happened to A R RAHMANs music of songs, same slumdog millionairish type sounds. i am fed up. 4) No song can be called a masterpiece in any sense. creativity lacking, such songs and music is been heard many times before. 5) Seems to me songs were never worked out at all looks to me a draft work was done and then released. 6) listen to the hindi version , O my GOD cant shankar hire a better lyrcist , embarrassing lyrics. 7) Worst ALBUM of
[arr] group really comprises of rahman fans?
more hatred messages are posted in this group against arr eventhough indian music lovers have never experienced (ENDHIRAN) type of music composed by an indian . be mature enough to give review about the music especially of rahman
Re: [arr] A small request...Think before you bash Endhiran's music...
Those who are complaining ARR's music is either not ARR fans or they must not like Rajini. We are using the same yardstick again and again. If you dont like it, we respect the opinion but remember to see the context of many things. First ARR needs to satisfy his fans,then Rajini fans and the section which likes ARR-Shankar combo, Kids, and general public. Is this an easy task? This audio has created records in itunes and CD sales never before. Lets enjoy these things. Cool Jon From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 5 August, 2010 10:09:29 AM Subject: Re: [arr] A small request...Think before you bash Endhiran's music... No one is bashing here! Everyone has the freedom to express his views. Infact, it is the community members who are 'bashing' some people here, who express their honest views. And regarding the music required for a sci-fi subject. Please refer the scores of sci-fi movies produced in Hollywood. Then U would understand what is required for such a subject. And we all know, that ARR is capable of doing much more than many of those Hollywood composers. Iam enjoying the sounds in Endhiran and the layering in Arima Arima. Also, I like Endhiran more than Sivaji... Juz because, Endhiran has the sounds which I expected in Sivaji. Very enjoyable. But certainly the concepts and genres are very old (Unusually from ARR). We would love ARR trying such genres... But we dont want ARR to follow the textbook format.. We want him in the Rahmantic way.. Always like a mad musical scientist like how CHORD qoutes many times. Remember when ARR experimented with jazz in Iruvar?? Did he ever follow the style, established by the legends of Jazz back in the 70's and 80's ?? No.. He went into mad experimentation giving masterpieces like vennilaa vennillaa which would even leave the jazz legends awestruck;and also resulting in some hybrid tracks like 'Aayirathil Naan Oruvan' and 'Kannai Katti', where 'Dave Brubeck met MS Vishwanathan'. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:24 PM, yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo. com wrote: Lot of you are complaining Endhiran is childish, depressing, repetitive in sound,not even a single memorable tune blah blah blah... Guys common give it a thought...What type of score would you expect for a sci-fi? It is very apt and once the movie releases, this would be sounding great with the visuals... Besides this, also note that every human has creative limitations. ...ARR cannot be endlessly creative in giving master pieces like Dilse or Taal at every attempt...arent we demanding s much...? To me even if I see the last 3 albums - VTV, Raavan, Endhiran...each and every song was uniqueHow can the same man giving us Aromale to Khili Re to Pudhiya Manidha to Hosanna to Behne De to Irumbile. To me this is mindblowing creativity.. . Man still does he not satisfy you with all your musical needs? All I am asking is, have some thought before you write something negative on ARR...imagine the stress ARRs mind must be undergoing to create one tune after the other and make it match the movie script, satisfy the mass fans, satisfy the super star, satisfy the critics and above all satisfy all of us...the fan group...Just have some nice words when blaming his music without abruptly thrashing something... We got to respect his creativity after all!!!
Re: [arr] Irumbile...Hypnotic!!!
if i had to describe the tune of this song, it follows a sine wave pattern. especially in the middle part of the song. up and down... terrific stuff On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.comwrote: Listening to this on continuous loop... Countless number of kudos to Lady Kash n Krishy - I'm hypnotized by your singing!!! Need more and more from you...And no words to express how I feel when AR sings Saadhal illa saabam vaangi followed by a more apt rap by Kash n Krishy...It just takes me somewhere!...And finally, another countless number of kudos to Madan Karki for such simple yet unheard lyrics!! A perfect club song!!! -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] Re: Very depressed with Endhiran
Actually what I am talking about is Rahman sir's heavenly tunes, the tunes = with which he casts a spell on us..that is what is missing in this album. I= felt the soul is missing Arrangements and sound production of each and every song is, as always, numero uno --- On Wed, 4/8/10, vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com wrote: From: vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Very depressed with Endhiran To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 9:17 PM Listen to Arima Arima and Puthiya Manitha!...once you grasp their structures you will realize their brilliance! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, parichay bhattacharya paricha...@... wrote: Only Kadal Anukkal and CHitti Dance showcase to take away from this album.
Re: [arr] Re: KADHAL ANUKKAL
Bro... I loved the usage 'Bubble Gum' pop. After the decline in the Legendary MJ's career..pop music went to dogs. And, now, POP music, is exactly as u term..just a 'bubble-gum' affair. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 6:07 AM, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: Probably kids ( like me :) ) who dont listen to english pop music ( /bubble gum pop ) love this song.. I dont listen to anythng other than tamil ,hindi ( sometimes telugu ). And I love irumbil to the core. Also, there is another reason to love this song: Lyrics. Simply wonderful words by karky,kashy,krish. Agree that its not a song with complex tune but still awesome stuff and my pick of the album. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: I agree with Gomzy and WiredBeatsIrunbile sounds too cliche and bubble gum poppish for my taste. However, I recognize how many people here are loving that song and I'm glad they are! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upadhye@ wrote: Irumbile sounds a little annoying if you have a very good audio system. especially on some good earphones. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Kalyan K kalyankin@ wrote: Loving Irumbile... Kalyan K. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Rajesh Kumar srk2381@ wrote: Agree agreeIrumbile is my pick too -- *From:* Thulasi Ram karokelip@ *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 1, 2010 11:57:29 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] Re: KADHAL ANUKKAL irumbile is my pick in the album. that song does it all for me. stupendous stuff and ARR singing it is the highlight. different shade to his unique voice - like the way he sung MJs 'black or white' in the concert. i wish pudhiya manidha had more of SPB - like extended SPB portions. it wud have been a treat as well. On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:28 PM, viswa bharathy piotheitkid@ yahoo.compiotheitkid@ wrote: yeah i too lik Irumbile a lot.. http://www.glitter-graphics.com/myspace/text_generator.php --- On *Sun, 8/1/10, Subramanian sub_ram_anian@ yahoo.com sub_ram_anian@ * wrote: From: Subramanian sub_ram_anian@ yahoo.com sub_ram_anian@ Subject: [arr] Re: KADHAL ANUKKAL To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 7:58 PM I beg to differ with your view points on Irumbile Oru Idhayam. Its not a masterpiece and its not my favourite in the soundtrack, yes but it is definitely not noisy or weak. In my opinion, its a typical AR techno song like Yaakai Thiri or Shano Shano and I like the feel of it. Trust me I hated both Yaakai Thiri and Shano Shano when I first listened to them. Though Shano Shano just managed to become a song I liked in the album, Yaakai Thiri became my favourite in Aayitha Ezhuthu. Just listen to Irumbile Oru Idhayam a few more times. I am sure it'll grow on u. And looks like AR has created this to satisfy one major portion of the Rajini fan following- Kids. I am sure kids would get addicted to this song.. Jai Ho! SubRAHMANIAN --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com http://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purevibz@ wrote: I agree with you...too hyped and the Rahman sung techno song is my least favorite. And yes, the songs that you mentioned are the strongest for me too and I'm also loving Armima. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com http://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, omindia1977 omindia1977@ wrote: Enthiran is good...too hyped up though.. .The A.R. Rahman song with Kash n Krissy is the weakest. Its too noisy, almost like a remix. Furthermore, not diggin' the chorus song, Arima Arima, yet, however Im sure it will Grow. Kilimanjaro, Intro Song, Kadhal Anukkal are the picks so far.. Also, to Mr. Fazil Anand, Please Do Not write in all Capitals or you will feel the wrath of this group. Reference Message #138465, for a brilliant explanation by the smartest man alive, Mr. Roshan.. .. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com http://mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, fazil_anand fazil_anand@ wrote: HI ALL FIRST OF ALL LET ME WISH U ALL A VERY HAPPY FRNDSHIP DAY... HRD ALL D SNGS OF ENDHIRAN I TEL U I ABSOLUTELY LUVD ALL D SNGS... DIS ALBUM IS WIDOUT A DOUBT ANOTHER FEATHER IN ARR's CAP... BRILLIANT MINDBLOWING COMPOSITIONS. .. I JUS LUVD KADHAL ANUKKAL A LOT... TS SUCH A WONDERFUL SONG DAT EVERYTHNG ASSOCIATED WID D SNG IS OUTSTANDING. .. ARR'S MUSIC, VJ PRAKASH SHREYA
[arr] Re: Enthiran and its composer
ya hats off rahman sir --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, jarshadnk jarsha...@... wrote: Dear All, You may love the music Enthiran or hate it (I love it myself), but if there's one thing that you cannot deny it's the courage of Rahman bro. In fact, how difficult would it have been for him to compose the kind of tunes that fans think a Rajini movie requires? If I am required to answer that then there's no use having fans group like this. How many composers would have the, to put it crudely, balls to compose a track like Puthiya Manitha for a Rajini movie? Every single one of them would have opted for a song with hundreds of folk drums playing a crass tune whose novelty wouldn't even last the movie's run in theatres. But no Sir! Rahman is not from that stock, and that's why he is great. He will give what the situation in the film requires without any fear of the repercussions. He may have fallen many times while innovating, but he has the courage to pick himself up and innovate some more. He is not a template. If most of the times we are baffled at his tunes the first time we listen to it, it's because of this. I wouldn't have been his fan if he gave me exactly what I wanted. I am his fan because by his courage he is pushing the boundaries of my taste in music. Having said that I don't think anybody needs to like a piece of art just because it's from someone. Like the quote from Evelyn Beatrice Hall often wrongly attributed to Voltaire, I will disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. But please chose you words carefully, as they have a tendency to have a life of their own. Sometimes they can hurt, even when you don't intend to. Jarshad NK
[arr] Re: Enthiran and its composer
Boy, you said it I agree completely!!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, jarshadnk jarsha...@... wrote: Dear All, You may love the music Enthiran or hate it (I love it myself), but if there's one thing that you cannot deny it's the courage of Rahman bro. In fact, how difficult would it have been for him to compose the kind of tunes that fans think a Rajini movie requires? If I am required to answer that then there's no use having fans group like this. How many composers would have the, to put it crudely, balls to compose a track like Puthiya Manitha for a Rajini movie? Every single one of them would have opted for a song with hundreds of folk drums playing a crass tune whose novelty wouldn't even last the movie's run in theatres. But no Sir! Rahman is not from that stock, and that's why he is great. He will give what the situation in the film requires without any fear of the repercussions. He may have fallen many times while innovating, but he has the courage to pick himself up and innovate some more. He is not a template. If most of the times we are baffled at his tunes the first time we listen to it, it's because of this. I wouldn't have been his fan if he gave me exactly what I wanted. I am his fan because by his courage he is pushing the boundaries of my taste in music. Having said that I don't think anybody needs to like a piece of art just because it's from someone. Like the quote from Evelyn Beatrice Hall often wrongly attributed to Voltaire, I will disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. But please chose you words carefully, as they have a tendency to have a life of their own. Sometimes they can hurt, even when you don't intend to. Jarshad NK
Re: [arr] 1THZ Processor - Endhiran Songs
I'm amazed, stunned !!!…. How did you read my mind !!! Initial hearing I thought the same lots of instruments used unexpected variations in a song very noisy After multiple listening I really wonder how sweet it is Finding new sound (I Love more these songs: Kelamal kayele-ATM, Valayapatti thavil-ATM , Kattu sirukki-Ravanan, kalvare-Ravanan) M.KALIDASAN The Rahman Lover --- On Wed, 4/8/10, rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@yahoo.com wrote: From: rajesh_36eee rajesh_36...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] 1THZ Processor - Endhiran Songs To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 11:28 PM Our brain can take/listen to only few sounds upon first hearing of a song.If there are lots of instruments used in a song or a lots of unexpected variations in a song our brain can't process it in a right way and our mind will think that the song is very noisy and its a crazy song.We are used to listten to very simple songs in which very few instruments are used ..that can be easily understood/processed by our brain so we think that the song is good.Our brain is like a CPU if a game which requires less configuration.it will run smoothly.If a game which requires heavy configuration ..it will not run smoothly on that same CPU and it will get heated(make us mad) very easily.If we listen to comlex songs then we will find new sounds every time we listen to and we will understand it properly(I heard many people saying that 'I am findig a new sound each time I listen to ARR's old songs' ).So is the case with Endhiran songs ..initially we thought that songs are noisy but now they sound good.So whenever we listen to the song again and again we appreciate them more.Todays MD's produce very simple songs which are easy to understand but A R Rahman's songs require lots of time(we can't hear all the sounds on first hearing) and its the complexity of the song and lots of instruments used in his songs make our brain/CPU difficult to understand.For ex: many people can't understand what I am trying to say here because they are not used to this kind of writing.VTV songs are very simple not complex.A R Rahman has produced very futuristic and complex songs in Endhiran - The Robot.We should be proud of him.and we are lucky that we all are born in his generation and listening to his songs. Songs in the order of Complexity: 1.Boom Boom Robo Darequires lot of timeheavy configuration CPU/brain...thats why many don't like it..actually they are not understanding it..lots of sounds 2.Chitti Dance Showcase 3.Irumbile Oru Idhaiyam.I like this song very much top one of my list 4.Arima Arimawow wat an energetic song..2nd top in my list 5.Pudhiya Manidha 6.Kilimanjaro 7.Kadal Anukkal.easily understandable..thats why lots of people liked it initially Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [arr] waste of time
I feel Shivaji album is far superior and soulful than Endhiran. Having said that, again I would say Kadhal Anukkal and Dance showcase are the ones which we would want to hear from Rahman sir more than the other songs. --- On Thu, 5/8/10, sharaba25 sharab...@yahoo.com wrote: From: sharaba25 sharab...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] waste of time To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, 5 August, 2010, 12:08 AM some respected members are just indulging in a futile exercise of pulling down an album which has faithfully served its purpose of catering wonderfully to the genre it belongs.moreover it has become a real rage the world over and it is vindicated day after day.Be honest and take an unbiased stand.Honestly speaking endhiran is far better than any of arr-rajini combo so far and let us not make a fool of ourselves by doing a detailed discussion about a soundtrack which should be definitely many times superior over the movie to which it belongs.let detailed , intelligent discussions be saved for another worthy movie in future.
Re: [arr] Which ARR album surprised you the most?
SDM. it came from nowhere, no pre-release hype and became a runway hit scooping any award u can imagine. Hurricane SDM!!! On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Which ARR album totally surprised you the most, being the most deviant from your expectations either in a positive or negative direction? We ALL have certain expectations and ideas about an ARR album before its release...just wondering which album caught you off guard the most in a good or bad way! I have to think about this myself too!
Re: [arr] A small request...Think before you bash Endhiran's music...
OK. I've been trying to stay away from this discussion but I'll jump in this one time. It might help if you punt the idea of Endhiran being a sci-fi movie, expecting it to have the music similar to how sci-fi films are scored these days. Instead think of it as a Rajni movie with some elements of science fiction. Now if you're going to question the appropriateness of the dated electronics versus today's amalgam of orchestra and electronics, then you should also be asking what are songs doing in a sci-fi movie in the first place. I don't like the synths and overuse of auto-tunes in Endhiran. It just happens to be ARR's choice for depicting the machine elements in a Rajni movie. And it's not like the music is without merit. It's an eclectic mix of styles that appeals to some and not to others. I'm not the target audience but that's just fine. While it's encouraging that you're writing more without abusing capital letters, it would lend more seriousness to your arguments if you qualified them without platitudes and fanboy gushings. When I read things like ... which would even leave the jazz legends awestruck, it would have re-written the history of Bond songs, Rahmantic way... it's hard to take you seriously. Isn't it odd that you want ARR to avoid the textbook method of music, and yet you want his music to fit accepted norms of today's sci-fi scores? Previously, you expected the music to have synth-orchestral elements in the arrangements... with Michael Columbierish percussions. Michel Colombier is known for his 70s/80s sound. Wouldn't you say that you got your 80s music with synths and orchestra? From: kishore parayath kishore.paray...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, August 4, 2010 11:39:29 PM Subject: Re: [arr] A small request...Think before you bash Endhiran's music... No one is bashing here! Everyone has the freedom to express his views. Infact, it is the community members who are 'bashing' some people here, who express their honest views. And regarding the music required for a sci-fi subject. Please refer the scores of sci-fi movies produced in Hollywood. Then U would understand what is required for such a subject. And we all know, that ARR is capable of doing much more than many of those Hollywood composers. Iam enjoying the sounds in Endhiran and the layering in Arima Arima. Also, I like Endhiran more than Sivaji... Juz because, Endhiran has the sounds which I expected in Sivaji. Very enjoyable. But certainly the concepts and genres are very old (Unusually from ARR). We would love ARR trying such genres... But we dont want ARR to follow the textbook format.. We want him in the Rahmantic way.. Always like a mad musical scientist like how CHORD qoutes many times. Remember when ARR experimented with jazz in Iruvar?? Did he ever follow the style, established by the legends of Jazz back in the 70's and 80's ?? No.. He went into mad experimentation giving masterpieces like vennilaa vennillaa which would even leave the jazz legends awestruck;and also resulting in some hybrid tracks like 'Aayirathil Naan Oruvan' and 'Kannai Katti', where 'Dave Brubeck met MS Vishwanathan'.
[arr] Sneak preview of Rahman's CWG song
Sneak preview of Rahman's CWG songIndiaGlitz [Thursday, August 05, 2010]Many of us know that the theme song for the Common Wealth Games (CWG) to be held come October is from A R Rahman. And the news now is that sneak preview will be held in New Delhi on 14 August.The specially designed costumes for the Games workforce will also be unveiled simultaneously. Leading sportspersons, nominated brand ambassadors for the Games, will spearhead the nation's hunt for glory in the 'Go for Gold' campaign on the day.Olympic bronze medalist Vijender Singh and World no 2 badminton player Saina Nehwal will be among the Commonwealth Games brand ambassadors of the games.The athletes would travel in two floats across Delhi, which would be flagged off from the Organising Committee Commonwealth Games Delhi 2010 headquarters.The procession would start in the form of a parade, led by the athletes and volunteers, and provide the city residents an opportunity be part of the grand event, which would conclude with a gala function in a star- hotel in the evening.
[arr] My music review of Enthiran
http://mytalkingpoint.wordpress.com/2010/08/05/music-review-enthiran-a-r-rahman/ Thanks, Hathim
[arr] Endhiran Review as isai puyal/super star fan..
As isai puyal Fan - 'Puthiya Manidha' Robotic Rahmanji voice mesmerizing.. Khathija scores as well.. SPB taking this song to another level.. The Beats, Instruments taking this song to World Class. 'Kadhal Anukkal', a soft melody.. but something is missing in Vijay's voice.. (My Choice is Hari'ji wth Shreya r Madhushree). 'Irumbile oru Irudhaiyam', somewhat it remembers 'maramkothiye' n 'Fanna' rythm.. but the little variation in the rythm the rap section proves Rahmanji is Genius. 'Chitti Dance', A World Music Fusion shows the another face of Rahmanji.. Waiting for the Visuals to see this dance portion by Robo..?! 'Arima Arima', Hariji taking full control of this song.. Sure this song ll be a Visual Treat. wen Hari'ji sings Endhiiirraa, yes it shows hw powerful the song is.. 'Kilimanjora', wht to tell abt this song.. this song is Rahmanji Punch.. a love duet, heavy drum rythm, Melody, Folk based.. all in one song.. hw is this possible for u Rahmanji.. Awesome Song.. but javed ali's voice is not matching.. (My Choice is Udit Naarayanan). 'Boom Boom Robo', is it a Tamil Hip Hop..?! somewhat it remember earlier songs.. Overall i'm Fully Satisfied with this Album 'Endhiran'. 80/100 As Super Star Fan - All songs are ok, except intro song 'Pudhiya manidha'.. i expected a much higher pitch, rythmic, fast beat like 'En peru padiyappa' or like 'Balleilakka' or like 'oruvan oruvan muthalali'.. Even I miss a Super Star Style song like 'Athiradi karan'.. i know this movie is not like earlier movies of super star.. but even though the intro song could have been in much little High Tempo.. Except that, i'm somewhat Satisfied with this Album. 70/100 00 91 99941 88566 rahmanian rajkumar http://www.youtube.com/bobyi
Re: [arr] Enthiran and its composer
well said. ya, some songs in robo may have conventional techno beats but ARR has given new sound for pudhiya manidha song. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:31 AM, jarshadnk jarsha...@yahoo.com wrote: Dear All, You may love the music Enthiran or hate it (I love it myself), but if there's one thing that you cannot deny it's the courage of Rahman bro. In fact, how difficult would it have been for him to compose the kind of tunes that fans think a Rajini movie requires? If I am required to answer that then there's no use having fans group like this. How many composers would have the, to put it crudely, balls to compose a track like Puthiya Manitha for a Rajini movie? Every single one of them would have opted for a song with hundreds of folk drums playing a crass tune whose novelty wouldn't even last the movie's run in theatres. But no Sir! Rahman is not from that stock, and that's why he is great. He will give what the situation in the film requires without any fear of the repercussions. He may have fallen many times while innovating, but he has the courage to pick himself up and innovate some more. He is not a template. If most of the times we are baffled at his tunes the first time we listen to it, it's because of this. I wouldn't have been his fan if he gave me exactly what I wanted. I am his fan because by his courage he is pushing the boundaries of my taste in music. Having said that I don't think anybody needs to like a piece of art just because it's from someone. Like the quote from Evelyn Beatrice Hall often wrongly attributed to Voltaire, I will disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. But please chose you words carefully, as they have a tendency to have a life of their own. Sometimes they can hurt, even when you don't intend to. Jarshad NK
Re: [arr] A.R.Rahman- the epitome of a true music virtuoso
Thanks for sharing your experiences here!!!...Enjoyed reading the whole thing...Please write more and more...These kind of write-ups are like fuel to this group that drives this group continuously... On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Gayathri gayathri_c...@yahoo.com wrote: With the heavy workload for the past 1 month, I hardly had any time to spend on myself…no movies, no hangouts with friends, no chatting and/or interacting on the net, and no music :( So, when the last of my assignments were sent in last Friday, my mind was all set to embrace the activities that I've missed thus far. Call it fate, but Endhiran's audio release was set at a time when I desired the much-needed emancipation from the maddening world…and boy, what a relief it brought to my life. Honestly speaking, I wasn't expecting much from Endhiran soundtracks. Western, particularly techno music has never been my favorite. Why, even when the whole world went ga-ga over the funky Hello Doctor and Kalloori Salai (when Kadhal Desam was released), I've been more moved by the blissful Thendrale and Anbe Anbe from the same film. And with the kind of film Enthiran was anticipated to be, I was very sure that there weren't going to be any soulful melodies in the tracks. Nevertheless, Enthiran is definitely an album which stands tall among others, even as it continues to create a delightful impact on the listeners. Leaving the musical aspect of the album to the experts, I'm merely here to share my experience with the album. The album starts out with Puthiya Manidha, which also happens to be my favourite track. The prelude music, coupled the chanting of Puthiya Manidha in sci-fi tune (who is this guy?) and Kathijah's soulful voice creates a certain anticipation in yourself. Well, if you know ARR's music, then you'll definitely know that this number is just going to get bigger! And before you could stop thinking, the song hits you like a bang! SPB pushes into the front lane and with the occasional support from ARR, delivers a splendid performance. And yes, the whole song has a techno feel to it, but it's far from being loud and noisy. There's a life in this song, a soul waiting to embrace the world…and by the end of the song, you know that Enthiran has born to rule the world. Kadhal Anukkal didn't create an impact on the first listen as Puthiya Manidha did to me. To begin with, it took me some time to realize that it's Vijay Prakash who delivering the number. Is he the same guy who sang Hossanna? He definitely sounds different. At times, I even felt that he was imitating Udit Narayan's way of singing. Maybe he's not but I certainly wasn't taken by his singing nor the song….at first. With repeated hearing, you realize what you've missed at the first listen. Sounds you've never heard before, the cheekiness in Vijay's voice, the joy in Shreya's and a positive vibrancy in the whole number. The song sound fresher after numerous hearing. It's my fault for dismissing Vijay too soon. He was amazing. Shreya was at her usual best, and leaves a distinguished mark with the way she loops around the notes at the end of the song. Wish she had continued singing the notes a little longer. I still don't listen to this number as much as I enjoyed listening to Puthiya Manidha, but yes, this is definitely a track to look out for. ARR switches back to techno with Irumbile oru Idhayam. The song exudes sci-fi and techno music at its best. Was I thinking that this would be soulful? A definite no, but surprisingly and funnily, it is. The whole idea about this number is to project a man who feels love blossoming from his heart of steel. ARR uses the right techno sounds to present the number. The high technology, sci-fi tune depicts the robot's inflexion, while the lyrics, regardless of how funny or techno centric they are, illustrate his feelings towards his lover. In fact, I would group Irumbile Oru Idhayam in the same category of Chitti Dance Showcase and Boom Boom Robo Da. They are definitely exciting; with amazing, crisp, clear, sci-fi sounds nevertheless, I failed to strike a chord with any of them. With the right visuals though, these songs would definitely create a rage in future, but for the time being, they stay at the bottom of my favorite track list. Arima Arima on the other hand belongs to a different genre. I must admit that the number has yet to grow on me but I'm starting to have a fondness on the grandiose that the number exudes. After a long time, Hariharan is back to ARR's camp…and as usual, he deals the high notes with élan. Sadhana Sargam on the other hand, is someone I prefer to hear in softer melodies. For some reasons, I always found her voice to be a little annoying when sung in the higher notes. Then again, the arrangement of music in this number takes the front line as compared to the vocals. Such high-flying orchestration, such perfect crafting. The song belongs to neither
Re: [arr] Ranking Endhiran Songs
*1. Puthiya Manitha , Kadhal Anukal 2. Irumbile Oru Idhayam , Kilimanjaro 3. Arima Arima 4. Boom Boom Robot Da 5. Chitti Dace Showcase **With ♥, Ambrith* http://magicalsongs.blogspot.com/ On 4 August 2010 02:36, vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com wrote: 1. Puthiya Manitha 2. Irumbile Oru Idhayam 3. Arima Arima 4. Boom Boom Robot Da 5. Kilimanjaro 6. Kadhal Anukal 7. Chitti Dace Showcase
Re: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only
Guys, I have always been a silent reader of these emails between us, fans. This time, I couldnt help but open up with what I feel should be conveyed to all. Maybe the subject line mentioned Endhiran for kids only is not appropriate, but I will definitely agree with what Taimur has mentioned. DEFINITELY the soul and the heavenly feel of Rahman sir's tunes are missing...ITS JUST NOT THERE..no matter how much melo and soul you try to seek out of this album, you just cant get it..and dont tell me Robotic sounds, tunes and comps dont have soul or melo. Again, if we are talking about song arrangement and production I would say they are as usual, SUPERB. But yes the style of beats, percussion and arrangements are used were very much prevalent in the past, not now. Only Kadhal ANukkal and Chitti Dance showcase, according to me, conveys his legacy in the album. AND ONE MORE THING, Irumbile Oru Idhaiyam-- what was this song?? I cant imagine Rahman sir himself has sung this song with that K and K. I dont even feel worth mentioning their name here. Normally the songs which he himself sings always remain a masterpiece, be it Vellai Pookkal or Athiradee , or any of his self-sung songs. But this song I guess will be the last in that list. And last but not the least, Rahman sir is a composer who would not bend his music writing style at the behest of a Shankar or a Mani Ratnam or a Shyam Benegal. He can tweak a little bit. Overall I feel, what Sukhi has said might be causing this...Virus in his hermitage which might be distracting him or interfering in his heavenly work with his brilliant musical team. We should also not forget this year we have got heavenly albums in the form of VTV and CR. --- On Wed, 4/8/10, ravi ravis...@gmail.com wrote: From: ravi ravis...@gmail.com Subject: [arr] Re: Endhiran for kids only To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 4 August, 2010, 11:22 PM A nice piece of advice from the senior. I have nothing to object. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: I haven't heard it yet, waiting for hindi release. And, thank god that you are certifying that it is good for kids. I remember Shankar's Nayakan's Rookhi Sookhi Roti that appeared such a stupid song when the album was released. Absolutely nobody liked it, not even kids. But when the movie was releases, that song acquired a new area with its placement in the script and we all could see that only this song could have been there and gave full credit to ARR for coming up with the accurate song. so? I hope history will repeat. Kids are innocent and don't think too much, don't expect too much like you and me, so they can enjoy music as it is. We elders cloud our pleasure with several things and choose not to like someone's hardwork of weeks and month and write such harsh things condemning them. But elders are open to logic and the movie visuals and script might provide them the logic they need to understand the significance of songs. ARR is bound to give music as the producer director asks him to, not what Taimur and Kishore would like ARR to give. -- Rawat On 8/4/2010 6:49 PM India Time, _Taimur Nadeem_ wrote: the most immature and outdated music by A R RAHMAN ever , is what my review is of endhiran after listenig it quiet a few days now. 1) Not a single mesmerizing musical sound in the whole album. 2) what is 80s robotic music doing in 2010. A R RAHMAN is a revolutionary in music how he could go back to that outdated sounds. i thought the maestro will come up with a new ultra futuristic sound for robot but.. 3) what in the world has happened to A R RAHMANs music of songs, same slumdog millionairish type sounds. i am fed up. 4) No song can be called a masterpiece in any sense. creativity lacking, such songs and music is been heard many times before. 5) Seems to me songs were never worked out at all looks to me a draft work was done and then released. 6) listen to the hindi version , O my GOD cant shankar hire a better lyrcist , embarrassing lyrics. 7) Worst ALBUM of the Shankar AR R combo . 8) Sweetness is getting rarer n rarer in A R RAHMAN songs.the midas touch is missing. KILIMANJARO AND KADAL ANUKKAL were the songs i liked but i getting bored from them now .hope Gopal you post it . the storm praise is flooding for what i dont know. Shankar HAS COMPLETELY directed RAHMAN sir wrongly. only kids could like such an album. regards, taimur
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Re [arr] A.R.Rahman- the epitome of a true music virtuoso
Wonderful Review - Forwarded Message From: Gayathri gayathri_c...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, August 5, 2010 2:41:15 AM Subject: [arr] A.R.Rahman- the epitome of a true music virtuoso With the heavy workload for the past 1 month, I hardly had any time to spend on myself…no movies, no hangouts with friends, no chatting and/or interacting on the net, and no music :( So, when the last of my assignments were sent in last Friday, my mind was all set to embrace the activities that I've missed thus far. Call it fate, but Endhiran's audio release was set at a time when I desired the much-needed emancipation from the maddening world…and boy, what a relief it brought to my life. Honestly speaking, I wasn't expecting much from Endhiran soundtracks. Western, particularly techno music has never been my favorite. Why, even when the whole world went ga-ga over the funky Hello Doctor and Kalloori Salai (when Kadhal Desam was released), I've been more moved by the blissful Thendrale and Anbe Anbe from the same film. And with the kind of film Enthiran was anticipated to be, I was very sure that there weren't going to be any soulful melodies in the tracks. Nevertheless, Enthiran is definitely an album which stands tall among others, even as it continues to create a delightful impact on the listeners. Leaving the musical aspect of the album to the experts, I'm merely here to share my experience with the album. The album starts out with Puthiya Manidha, which also happens to be my favourite track. The prelude music, coupled the chanting of Puthiya Manidha in sci-fi tune (who is this guy?) and Kathijah's soulful voice creates a certain anticipation in yourself. Well, if you know ARR's music, then you'll definitely know that this number is just going to get bigger! And before you could stop thinking, the song hits you like a bang! SPB pushes into the front lane and with the occasional support from ARR, delivers a splendid performance. And yes, the whole song has a techno feel to it, but it's far from being loud and noisy. There's a life in this song, a soul waiting to embrace the world…and by the end of the song, you know that Enthiran has born to rule the world. Kadhal Anukkal didn't create an impact on the first listen as Puthiya Manidha did to me. To begin with, it took me some time to realize that it's Vijay Prakash who delivering the number. Is he the same guy who sang Hossanna? He definitely sounds different. At times, I even felt that he was imitating Udit Narayan's way of singing. Maybe he's not but I certainly wasn't taken by his singing nor the song….at first. With repeated hearing, you realize what you've missed at the first listen. Sounds you've never heard before, the cheekiness in Vijay's voice, the joy in Shreya's and a positive vibrancy in the whole number. The song sound fresher after numerous hearing. It's my fault for dismissing Vijay too soon. He was amazing. Shreya was at her usual best, and leaves a distinguished mark with the way she loops around the notes at the end of the song. Wish she had continued singing the notes a little longer. I still don't listen to this number as much as I enjoyed listening to Puthiya Manidha, but yes, this is definitely a track to look out for. ARR switches back to techno with Irumbile oru Idhayam. The song exudes sci-fi and techno music at its best. Was I thinking that this would be soulful? A definite no, but surprisingly and funnily, it is. The whole idea about this number is to project a man who feels love blossoming from his heart of steel. ARR uses the right techno sounds to present the number. The high technology, sci-fi tune depicts the robot's inflexion, while the lyrics, regardless of how funny or techno centric they are, illustrate his feelings towards his lover. In fact, I would group Irumbile Oru Idhayam in the same category of Chitti Dance Showcase and Boom Boom Robo Da. They are definitely exciting; with amazing, crisp, clear, sci-fi sounds nevertheless, I failed to strike a chord with any of them. With the right visuals though, these songs would definitely create a rage in future, but for the time being, they stay at the bottom of my favorite track list. Arima Arima on the other hand belongs to a different genre. I must admit that the number has yet to grow on me but I'm starting to have a fondness on the grandiose that the number exudes. After a long time, Hariharan is back to ARR's camp…and as usual, he deals the high notes with élan. Sadhana Sargam on the other hand, is someone I prefer to hear in softer melodies. For some reasons, I always found her voice to be a little annoying when sung in the higher notes. Then again, the arrangement of music in this number takes the front line as compared to the vocals. Such high-flying orchestration, such perfect crafting. The song belongs to neither Hariharan nor Sadhna Sargam…this one belongs to the one and
Re: [arr] Which ARR album surprised you the most?
Sangamam!!! Sowkiyama song alone blew me away with so much variations!...In fact most of the songs in this album were so different at the time when there were less or no carnatic folk albums in Tamil... On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:16 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Which ARR album totally surprised you the most, being the most deviant from your expectations either in a positive or negative direction? We ALL have certain expectations and ideas about an ARR album before its release...just wondering which album caught you off guard the most in a good or bad way! I have to think about this myself too! -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!