Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense. So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey ! ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] Re: CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Great song... I really enjoyed listening. Thanks a lot Mr Alphons.. The beats fusion is really nice Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 8:24 PM, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: Superb sir..Your fan club is increasing :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Alphons Joseph alpho...@... wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
Re: [arr] ARR T Shirts - New Print
Hi Vithur , please book one for me :) , Please tell me the cost other details . thanking you ,sachin 09822235091 --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote: From: Vithur vith...@gmail.com Subject: [arr] ARR T Shirts - New Print To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 3:24 PM A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details. -- regards, Vithur
Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
The video is on its way...that should change everyone's opinion about this song.. From: Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 10:33:21 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O Really disappointed with the reviews in the media coming out in a hurry... wait until its performed in the event and then criticize.. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote: http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- www.berginroy.com
[arr]
http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214
[arr] top 10 songs from arr's own voice
3 days back I was on a train journey during a night...I had my iPOD and headphones and decided to try those songs that were sung only by ARR rahmanMan what a night it wasunforgettable tunes and great arrangements...to top it all it was the voice that was the signature of these songsGive it a try. My rankings of the top 10 songs would be: 1)New York Nagaram 2)Vellai Pookal 3)Tere Bina 4)Dil Se Re 5)Ye Jo Desh 6)Khwaja Mere 7)Humma Humma 8)Vande Mataram 9)Meherbaan 10)Rehna Tu Each song displays emotion in voice that only ARR can bring in front of the mic!
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Epic! Made my day :D -Moin Ali From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:52:12 PM Subject: [arr] http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214
[arr] CWG WILL ROCK!
The song is going to rock and i am very happy that there are so much of critics. I have always seen this happening, a song being hated by so many people especially when its done by ARR rocks the charts and stays with us for a long time. Also all the people who are criticizing the songs, should go back and analyze. Good example is JAI HO This song will go places and no doubt about it. Than you SIR ARR.
[arr] A.R.Rahman @ Soundbox Magazine
Full Magazine http://www.evadowd.com/soundbox1.pdf *Download only ARR related pages in a PDF file* http://www.mediafire.com/?dy8ft8yrpzfyyq8 Music lovers should go for the full magazine !! Recommended from my side ! -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
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hahahaha :) VERY VERY TRUE I'm sure AR will dust off these comments and be moving forward. Bergin On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214 -- www.berginroy.com
[arr] Govt doesn`t like CWG theme song
http://www.zeenews.com/video/showvideo7970.html
[arr] CWG song waka waka
I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad.
Re: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-)
Just awesome. I’m keep on listening. All TV channel should play this song, imagine the song is sung by the crowd in stadium, it will be mind blowing……. M.KALIDASAN The Rahman Lover --- On Mon, 30/8/10, Ram Motipally mramvina...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Ram Motipally mramvina...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, 30 August, 2010, 7:54 PM I am just loving AR's vocals...there is something different...cant figure out what ...any one with any clues..let me know From: Nachiketha nachiketha...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 5:54:25 AM Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) yes, i liked it a lot --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: The song is brilliant. I started loving it after repeated hearing on a headphone. - magic works for me, can't stop playing it again again now!!! From: jarjar jayram...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 1:28:04 AM Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) Takkar Song... As they say in Tamil takkar means superb song. Great beat, melody and superb mix of traditional instruments too. I am sure this is going to rock India for some time... Thanks ARR Sir... Anyone anyone.. please post the translation !! please !!! Jai Ho, Jayram Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
I liked rahman sir's version very much. It is more international !!! ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 --- On Tue, 31/8/10, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010, 1:42 nice one, ji. hope u liked ARRs version. p.s: anytime i hear ur aaromale rendition, i'm mesmerized. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
[arr] Welcome song(from Kerala) - CWG - Audio attached [1 Attachment]
Mp3 version attached.. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
[arr] I love the Sitar interludes in CWG song
I am warming up to this song. I really love the sitar bits and overall fusion. I think my biggest problem initially was with the slower tempo and lack of loopy rhythms, which maybe I expected for a song to convey high energy and spirit. But, hats of to ARR for being creative and thinking differently. I wanted to send a reply message to the CWG and Sitar! thread, but yahoo is not letting me reply to existing threads, only letting me post new messages for now.
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Alphons..the song is kickassthe video is terriblethe song deserves much better visuals!! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:25 AM, hibath rahman rahman...@yahoo.com wrote: thumps up bro..kalakki.. Could u just come up with the audio version of d same..? On Mon Aug 30th, 2010 10:58 PM IST Alphons Joseph wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
A very sensible argument. I do not see ARR has lost it anywhere in this post. Critics, are you reading ? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
truly nice tune..good arrangements... congrats !!!swaps --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Pramod pramod...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pramod pramod...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons) To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 12:12 AM I'm sorry, I missed one sweet thing. That lovely 'Thana na na...thadhina.' at the start after each 'come out and play'... is simply a delight :) Pramod. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Pramod pramod...@gmail.com wrote: Alphonse sir. I'm speechless at this awesome song... Nice cool, lively and peppy 'Abheri' (hope I am right about the Raga !!!) The 'Come out and play' has mixed with the song and tune so well like sugar in milk :) I just loved that flute (at around 1:41). simply loved it and when the tabla joined the proceedings (at about 1:48) it became ever so beautiful. Outstanding composition sir... excellent work. Love and regards from Pramod. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- Warm regards, Pramod. -- Warm regards, Pramod.
[arr] Is there a technical problem with replies?
When I try to reply in a thread, there's a message that says, cannot retrieve message such and such number. Anyone else having this problem? About the CWG theme song, I am warming up to it. In my earlier post, I never meant to suggest that ARR only did this because he felt obligated to or was forced to. Obviously, he created what he thought was apt for the theme and mood and I salute him! I was just wondering in general about his emotional investment into the song.not at all meaning to assume anything or cast doubt on his sincerity. I hear the sincerity in this song very much.
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Excellent composition!! Reflects every sound from Kerala...Awesome rendition by Shankar Mahadevan... Video transitions are very fast and shaky in many places that's little irritating to the eyes and diverts the listener from enjoying the audio... On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
Re: [arr] I love the Sitar interludes in CWG song
Describe how you like this song and the nuances in every website's feedback or comment section that criticizes AR and compares with Shakira as much possible. That's they we can show our live for AR and the song. Bergin On Aug 31, 2010, at 8:42 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I am warming up to this song. I really love the sitar bits and overall fusion. I think my biggest problem initially was with the slower tempo and lack of loopy rhythms, which maybe I expected for a song to convey high energy and spirit. But, hats of to ARR for being creative and thinking differently. I wanted to send a reply message to the CWG and Sitar! thread, but yahoo is not letting me reply to existing threads, only letting me post new messages for now.
[arr] Re: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Agree! Different versions should be released; perhaps they will be released on a CD (just like 'One Love' in different languages). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, ::: rahmanian ::: krrajkuma...@... wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. 00 91 99941 88566 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting 00 91 99941 88566 end_of_the_skype_highlighting rahmanian rajkumar http://www.youtube.com/bobyi
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
Did you guys observe the sound quality ? I mean the engineering. It has been better than endhiran and puli. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Suresh Jayakumar suresh6...@yahoo.comwrote: The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense. So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey ! ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] leave ARR
RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. Is it true?? I heard 2 songs were selected in last 63 songs in the Academy Awards Arijit On 31 August 2010 06:36, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: Exactly Thulasi.. I still remember how many people said RDB is bad/horrible bla bla.. Somebody said 'Kalyug and few other albums are much much better than RDB'. One more I could recall was 'Luka chuppi is the only saving grace'. Some radio channel gave RDB a ranking of 17 on a top 20 list. All these happened before movie release. After movie release, the songs were a rage and RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote: it will always happen buddy.. RDB sucks. after delhi 6 release, media said delhi 6 is doesnt compare to the class and beauty of RDB! btw, delhi 6 is a runaway musical hit!! i can a dozen more recent instances like that. recent one being sivaji and enthiran. similar analogy applies. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Ram Motipally mramvina...@...wrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! -- *From:* Farzad Khaleel farsad...@... *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharab...@...wrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
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lol :)) On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214 -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Govt doesn`t like CWG theme song
hmm.. so it has reached that far. if they didn't like the song, then why did they approve ? i seriously hope that he withdraws that song and use it in his album or anywhere else that it will be suitable. it is such a great song and don't deserve to be criticized with such harsh words. i am so worried for his reputation... if this whole thing turn out to be an utter mess, AR will also get the partial blame. people will start remembering him as the person who ruined CWG theme song and will foget everything about oscar and grammy's. I can't believe these people. how difficult is it to work together at least for one event to make it a success rather than making it as a platform to blame one another! this is what I hate the most about our country. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:11 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: http://www.zeenews.com/video/showvideo7970.html -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com
[arr] the CWG theme is rousing, trilling, spectacular and epic
very eclecticcatchydelivers the goodsall the detractors do is show how many people in India have horrible music taste!...hahaif this were made anywhere else, people would recognize its brilliance
[arr] [Semi-ARR] The Misunderstood Rama
Mani Ratnam's Raavan was all about the statement that maybe there is a Ram in every Raavan and a Raavan in every Ram. This is, by no means, a new thought. It has been contemplated in a lot of movies before Raavan. One half of the statement was made into an entire movie by Subhash Ghai. The crux of Khal Nayak was that there is a Nayak in every Khal Nayak. Mani himself handled the subject in Talapathy, without spelling it out. If you consider Rajini's character the Ram in the movie and Arvind Swamy's character the Raavan, Ram (Rajini) does have a Raavan streak, where he kills people. And Raavan, Arvind Swamy, does have a Ram streak, because of his drive to end crime. If you consider the roles reversed, with Arvind Swamy as Ram and Rajini as Raavan, Ram still has a Raavan streak, because he decides to use an underhanded technique to get rid of Rajini, by allowing Ambrish Puri to try to kill him. And Raavan, Rajini, has a Ram streak because of all the good he does to people around him. So, the concept of a Ram in Raavan, or a Raavan in Ram is nothing new to either Indian Cinema, or to Mani himself. But that doesn't diminish the merits of Raavan by any stretch of imagination. If anything, rather than play it subtly like he did in Talapathy, Mani decided to bring it into sharp focus. If anybody had any doubts about who Mani's protagonist is, they are dispelled by the name of the movie. The moment the movie was named Raavan, all doubts about who's point of view the movie is from are erased. In this scenario, it is only logical that Ram would have a secondary role, even though it is vital to the story. But does Mani deliberately go out of the way to show the Raavan in Ram? Is Ram, or Dev in the movie, short-changed? While I do not know what Mani had in mind, I have formed my own theory on the character of Dev in the movie. The movie wants us to take Dev to be a ruthless cop, with a psychopathic obsession to bring down Bheera. He kills, tortures, lies and hurts anyone and everyone for the one goal of killing Bheera. For just a sampling of his many sins: 1. Torture - he tortures Bheera's brother-in-law for information about Bheera, even when the brother-in-law is on the verge of dying. 2. Lies - he lies to Bheera's brother that he will not harm him. 3. Kills in cold blood - he kills Bheera's brother in cold blood. 4. Uses his wife - he suspects his wife and uses her to get to Bheera. But there is one aspect to all this that people may overlook. In the Ramayana, Rama's first and foremost dharma was to the people of his kingdom. The people's happiness and peace was the utmost to him, even at the cost of everything else. When some people felt that Sita was not pure after Raavana kidnapped her, Rama had her banished to the jungle, because not a single person from his subjects should have an iota of doubt on the king's character. Taking this to Raavan, Dev was, above all else, a police officer - an encounter specialist. He was given a job - to kill Bheera. He made that his only goal. When Bheera kidnaps his wife, his search for Bheera becomes more urgent and intense, but for him the goal was always to kill Bheera. Just as Rama would kill Vali treacherously to get help to find Sita, Dev would do anything in his means to get to Raagini and, in turn, to Bheera. After killing Raavana, Rama tells Sita that he does not respect her because she was with another man for a year. He tells her that she was only instrumental in getting him to do what he was destined to do - kill the greatest and most powerful rakshasa of all time. Sita decides to end her life and jumps into a fire. But her purity is such that the fire has no effect on her. Seeing this, Rama says that he always knew she was pure, but he had to prove it to everyone else, so that no one would have any doubts about her. In Raavan, after Dev finds Raagani, he vows that he will come back, because his real job was to kill Bheera. To do this, he is willing to sacrifice his wife. He puts his duty above even his personal life and happiness. He taunts her with Bheera and threatens her with a polygraph test. Disgusted, hurt, broken and finally defeated, Raagani decided to end her life as she knows it and walks out on Dev. There can be no confusion that the scene where Dev asks her to take a polygraph test is only to instigate her to lead him to Bheera. Yet I have read reviews that state that the scene is so awkward and laughable. Could that mean that the reviewer didn't actually understand the simple fact that it was a deliberate taunt? Or is it that I am interpreting this wrong? The movie shows Bheera's companions as naive people and gives you the impression that they are good people at heart, but the world has made them bad. So when Dev kills them, it shows us more of his Raavan side. But is that really the case? In the Ramayana, when Surpanaka's nose and ears were cut off, she goes to her cousin, who lived in the same jungle that Rama was exiled to and goads him to kill
[arr] ARR AND CWG SONG
CWG is hosted not to promote sports but with the main intention of promoting several persons Swiss accounts further.you (the govt) have not even provided the basic amenities to encourage budding sports people so ,where do you have world class atheletes here, fit to compete in the international arena. OK we shall leave it at that and regarding ARR's theme song considered to be mediocre , let me make it very clear that ARR was asked to do it hoping to add some crediblity for this tainted exercise . I believe the purpose is more than achieved and the money spent is worth every penny.Only ARR can command so much of attention for a song and not any Tom Dick or Harry who are producing cacophony in the name of music. So folks why bother about some persons with zero crediblity. RELAX an Indian ARR fan RELAX!
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Alphonse sir has always been awesome. His trademark gospel style tunes, with stylish feel...and Stephen Devassy's AWESOME programming !!
[arr]Criticism about CWG theme
Hi, Regardless of CWG theme song, just i want to share my thought. See the creation of god. Even he didnt create all living beings without defect. There are some physically challenged people. Then how the people can expect all songs from rahman to be a masterpiece. But it doesnt meant that he lost his creativity. Also we cannot put Dil se song to Enthiran film. The music should synchronise the given situation and emotion. Rahman is a legend in bringing the music for the given situation. May be he is not familiar with sports. Please leave him some space. I am feeling very sorry for the criticisms about CWG theme song. Thanks R KARTHIK Rahmaniac.
[arr] ENDHIRAN IS A MINDBLOWING ALBUM
Hi Guys, Iam writing this after listening to this album for a month. This is a treasure to keep. And one of ARR's best. Everytime i keep the lyrics and listen to the album it gets better and find something new to cherish. Hats off to ARR. Music has no boundries, and this album proves it. Iam thoroughly enjoying every moment of it. Cool Jon
[arr] Re: CWG song waka waka
i thought this was a honest review yes...I think the song could have been lot more catchy to connect to the masses and make them sing along!!! now it looks lot more challenging to grasp the song! But I must say Bose the forgotton hero remain one of his best to me till date :) --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, light4_u light...@... wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad.
[arr] Re: Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
Great reading AJ! i tend to agree that the breathing space in songs is a little less nowadays...Also simple and catchy melody/tune is losing prominence to probably complicated song structure making it difficult to hum or remember the tunesCan anyone suggest why this is happening??...is this intended to be his signature or is Rahman just pushing himself too hard and experimenting to create a whole new dimension in global music... But I am not saying his complex tunes are not good in quality...they are absolutely marvellous in quality and making one introspect his music much more...and making us think a lot! Some of his best melodies are simple tune with minimal arrangements...Listen to the following to to understand what I am trying to say!This is a random list that came to my mind :) 1)En Mel Vizhundha 2)Athankarai Marame 3)Uyirum neeye 4)Kaiyil Midhakum 5)Rasaathi 6)Kannukku Mai Azhagu 7)Narumugaiye 8)Porale Ponnuthayi (Sad) 9)Azhage Sugama 10)Nila Kaigiradhu --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.not completely, but the trend is there. ARR too used to have more ethnic Indian sounding albums back then, even for contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period films. Later, the Ethnic Indian sound would be confined mostly to period film scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, Raavan, and Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and look how beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I think a lot of people are missing more of the Indian Rahman. Rahman's music over time has become more international and less Indian as a general trendagain with exceptions here and there.
Re: [arr]
Who is Sajid Patel? The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - From: Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 31 August, 2010 7:40:12 PM Subject: Re: [arr] hahahaha :) VERY VERY TRUE I'm sure AR will dust off these comments and be moving forward. Bergin On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214 -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] If expectations often lead to disappointments, then whyhave expectations in the first place?
Well said Rajib, These people don't even like our version of explaining how they became going on blaming, blashing or unknowingly discouraging real Rahmaniacs and our Own Indian International Talent ARR and such people. I feel low and very sad seeing such mails but I know I can't stop such baseless criticism and jealous filled comments in this group which continuously running after Oscars Particularly. More over these people will get ready to fight on us through tones of RIGHT TO EXPRESS kinda mails which gives more space for them to talk more rubbish. That's why I don't react to any of such mails though I am a member since years in this group. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Tata Indicom -Original Message- From: A.R.Rajib a.r.ra...@gmail.com Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 21:32:37 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [arr] If expectations often lead to disappointments, then why have expectations in the first place? Seriously i never had any expectations on any of the ARR releases !! I just know the plot of film..and think if i was the director/composer of the film what kinda music i would add to this kinda film !! and nothing else !! it's such a natural process for me ..may be that is why i am loving every ARR release to the core !! Dont know if i am the only one here ! Many says Ghajni wasnt good enough ,think about having any other songs(of your choice) in Ghajni ..it wont match with the film !! Music is for the film , Film is not for the music ! Same rule applies for whatever the reason u r giving on NOT liking one album/song !! It wasnt there for anyone to like it !! it was put there to uplift the story of the film !! if someone likes it ,that's extra !! Let's not comment about those people who got a limited music sense !! Like of Mr. Manna dey said How can u sing a patriotic song in that high note , what kinda singing is this ? ( on commenting about Vande mataram) .. In an recent interview he went on to say Nowadays we cant tell who is the singer of any songs like old days .. LOL .. seriously these kinda people also exists !! but the sad part is, even some Young people acting like these older,Wiser people !! if you think an ARR album is mediocre when everybody else is liking the album very much , then i think it's high time you should start composing an album better than that of ARR ! But ofcourse you have the right to express yourselves.But therez always a thing called misusing things !! Dont try to be over-smart by bashing ARR songs just to gain LOT of attention..U r just damaging ur own image ( if u atleast have any). Anyway loving every bit of the CWG theme !! and on the way to create a mix of some of my fav ARR BGMs and songs !! :-) ( Sorry if i went bit off-topic here , i couldnt control myself after seeing some childish behavior of some users here ) On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Neevan vyrus_...@yahoo.com wrote: -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
Re: [arr] Welcome song(from Kerala) - CWG - Audio attached
Sir, I was just about to request you for an mp3 version and there you are Just in time I'm loving this song... You rock :-) On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: [Attachment(s)https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12ac88fa3577c8d8_TopTextfrom Alphons Joseph included below] Mp3 version attached.. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
I feel there is a reason behind use of minimal instruments. It's going to performed in a stadium, he might have thought anybody shd be able bring the sound with minimal instruments they have. I'm completely satisfied with the instrumentation and it's a great idea for this kind of song. All you need here is to have the crowd sing along, I'm sure that's going to happen. On Aug 30, 2010, at 4:38 PM, Arr Fan arr...@rocketmail.com wrote: Ramesh - good one. I second that ARR missed an golden opportunity to utilize a large orchestral work - it is indeed sad when people question if swagatham composed by our ARR worth $1million price tag? the magic in swagatham works for me now... but ARR could have gone for large orchestra and made it really very grand. I guess, I will wait for that day... From: Ramesh R triscod...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 12:37:44 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O Apparently none of the people complaining about the CWG song even bothered to check the theme song for 2006 Commonwealth Games. Here's Delta Goodrem singing Together We Are One Each host nation has a different interpretation of what they want in the theme song for CWG. They all don't have to be fast-paced and anthem-like. It depends on what the GoI or IOC wanted ARR to showcase in the song. Judge it based on the context. I had hoped to see a larger contribution from ARR towards the music of the CWG. It really was an opportunity to do a large orchestral work were he to score the Opening Ceremony. Score fans should seek out the cd to the 2006 CWG Opening Ceremony. It contains music by Australian composer Christopher Gordon and is nothing short of fantastic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Games:_Melbourne_2006_Opening_Ceremony And if you want more Gordon goodness- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF7SD-JbXwU From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 7:07:31 PM Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg
[arr]: yeh Delhi hein mere yaar for CWG
Hi Rahmaniacs, Was just wondering if CWG committee can try to use Delhi-6 title track (yeh delhi hein mere yaar) at the promotions, hotels, stadiums, etc alongwith the CWG anthem. Although it already sounds international, they can ask ARR to provide a english only version or something similar. Sure that it would sound catchy enough for visiting foreigners and is quite relevant for the locals as well. Regards, Kiran I K
[arr] Re: ARR T Shirts - New Print
Hello Vithur Can you provide me yor mob, am in chennai , will come n collect srinivas b --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur vith...@... wrote: A.R.R. T Shirts available with me for sale. Proceeds go for a noble cause. At present , for people within India. Those interested, pls mail me ur details. People from Chennai can collect it in person from me. People from other parts of India, can mail me ur details. -- regards, Vithur
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
This is about India and for Indians primarily, for info. Jai Ho is not English!!! On 31 August 2010 09:21, ::: rahmanian ::: krrajkuma...@yahoo.comwrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. 00 91 99941 88566 rahmanian rajkumar http://www.youtube.com/bobyi -- Regards, Uday Kiran
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
And also since Waka Waka was based on a football worldcup in Africa, it had a lot of african beats in it. How could he compose a song like waka waka for a games going to be held in India ! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: A very sensible argument. I do not see ARR has lost it anywhere in this post. Critics, are you reading ? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
On 8/31/2010 10:32 AM India Time, _light4_u_ wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. Yaar, the above doesn't at all relate to why you like or dislike this song. I concede that I find it so uncharacterstic of ARR to compare his own work with waka waka even if by negation, may be media caught him unprepared and he uttered something he didn't meant to. Still, whatever he said that raised the expectations, even without him having said anything, expectation with an ARR song are always high, so nothing became worse or bad by him uttering so. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. Frankly, I haven't heard waka till now fully though it reaches ears now and then, but agains dear, you seem to be comparing ARR song with waka. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. Thinking about it, I think he should give such growing songs for his fans. He should not give growing song that he knows world will listen who don't know about this growing effect and might not bother to give it time to grow. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. Shahzad, having read this insightful mail, I still haven't got a clue what exactly you don't like in this song. You seem to be regular ARR fan hence used to analyze music, still you are just giving the judgment not even close to the capability of ARR, that's all. Would it be possible for you to give some elements that you didn't like in it, or could you compare it to ARR's other song highlighting some effects that ARR could use to bring such elements that were required in this song please? Asking you to undergo this drill only because you seem analytical so you can do it. I am not dictating anything. Just think that not even close to the capability of ARR wouldn't be any useful to ARR as a feedback. Some concrete element of deeds or lack of them would be useful to him to understand what people wanted in this song. -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Hindi is not India's national language.. It is one of the official languages along with English but Hindi being the primary and the latter the secondary.. Below is one of the many sources.. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Theres-no-national-language-in-India-Gujarat-High-Court/articleshow/5496231.cms --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Wakka Wakka was released in Spanish, as well as club mix was released on CD. Just saying different versions could be released for people having different taste in music, e.g. club mix/remix can be released for people who are complaining the song to be slow. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] leave ARR
The exact word is Short-listed ...NOT Nominated ! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Arijit Debnath arijit...@gmail.com wrote: RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. Is it true?? I heard 2 songs were selected in last 63 songs in the Academy Awards Arijit On 31 August 2010 06:36, raj arr_naga...@yahoo.com wrote: Exactly Thulasi.. I still remember how many people said RDB is bad/horrible bla bla.. Somebody said 'Kalyug and few other albums are much much better than RDB'. One more I could recall was 'Luka chuppi is the only saving grace'. Some radio channel gave RDB a ranking of 17 on a top 20 list. All these happened before movie release. After movie release, the songs were a rage and RDB got crtical and commercial acclaim with 2 oscar nominations as well. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote: it will always happen buddy.. RDB sucks. after delhi 6 release, media said delhi 6 is doesnt compare to the class and beauty of RDB! btw, delhi 6 is a runaway musical hit!! i can a dozen more recent instances like that. recent one being sivaji and enthiran. similar analogy applies. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Ram Motipally mramvina...@...wrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! -- *From:* Farzad Khaleel farsad...@... *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharab...@...wrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
I wonder what is happening to your analytical capabilities, AJ. You propose a theory that ARR worked hard and perhaps worked too hard, and then you base your remaining analysis on this, without knowing if it is correct on not. If you don't like it, it doesn't mean that ARR worked hard or too hard or hardly. All those critics of enthiran can also say the same, that ARR worked too hard on enthiran, without knowing whether he had or not. I wonder how could you not see that vandemataram is our national song, and people have a chord attached to it, so we were already willing to someone giving us our national song in the cacophony of other MDs who never bothered about nation. That helped in people liking it. Vandemataram was in two albums, including janganman, and there were several versions of it in them, so it was not just one composition by ARR. someone might have liked one, other one might have disliked the version the first one liked but might have liked the other one and so on, and thus album had one likeable version for each of all. Tamil theme song, gujarat theme song, 20-20 theme song, it is not the first theme song that ARR had done, so why whould he not grasp all those patriotic and other elements in this particular theme song when he got them all always in other theme songs in right proportions? You are working on theories that might not be your forte and you are be aware of facts. You should analyze the song musically as you have musical knowledge and past proven capability to do that. I personally find did ARR feel truly inspired? is very offensive and accusing. -- Rawat On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com mailto:purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here.
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
I don't think there should be a comparison between Waka Waka and CWG original song composed by our ARR, since the former is already facing a copyright infringment case. More here http://indianipinfo.blogspot.com/2010/07/shakiras-waka-waka-sued-for-copyright.html --- On Tue, 31/8/10, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 31 August, 2010, 7:53 PM A very sensible argument. I do not see ARR has lost it anywhere in this post. Critics, are you reading ? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] If expectations often lead to disappointments, then why have expectations in the first place?
On 8/30/2010 9:02 PM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote: if you think an ARR album is mediocre when everybody else is liking the album very much , then i think it's high time you should start composing an album better than that of ARR ! I don't buy this logic. The counter argument is the oft-quoted I haven't laid any egg so far but I know about an Omlette better than all hens and cocks. So, I am one who can't compose any song, I don't even know music, I like most of ARR songs and dilike a few of his songs. I am not talking about any particular album or song, but talking about only the theory you spelled. rawat
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
@ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
Rawat. Sometimes some tunes need not grow. Like how you mentioned saathiya. I am sure you loved the airtel tune on the first hearing. Thats what is mass appeal. Take Jiya Se Jiya for example. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:31 PM, V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com wrote: On 8/31/2010 10:32 AM India Time, _light4_u_ wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. Yaar, the above doesn't at all relate to why you like or dislike this song. I concede that I find it so uncharacterstic of ARR to compare his own work with waka waka even if by negation, may be media caught him unprepared and he uttered something he didn't meant to. Still, whatever he said that raised the expectations, even without him having said anything, expectation with an ARR song are always high, so nothing became worse or bad by him uttering so. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. Frankly, I haven't heard waka till now fully though it reaches ears now and then, but agains dear, you seem to be comparing ARR song with waka. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. Thinking about it, I think he should give such growing songs for his fans. He should not give growing song that he knows world will listen who don't know about this growing effect and might not bother to give it time to grow. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. Shahzad, having read this insightful mail, I still haven't got a clue what exactly you don't like in this song. You seem to be regular ARR fan hence used to analyze music, still you are just giving the judgment not even close to the capability of ARR, that's all. Would it be possible for you to give some elements that you didn't like in it, or could you compare it to ARR's other song highlighting some effects that ARR could use to bring such elements that were required in this song please? Asking you to undergo this drill only because you seem analytical so you can do it. I am not dictating anything. Just think that not even close to the capability of ARR wouldn't be any useful to ARR as a feedback. Some concrete element of deeds or lack of them would be useful to him to understand what people wanted in this song. -- Rawat -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Jai Ho is English now :-) On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Uday Kiran uda...@gmail.com wrote: This is about India and for Indians primarily, for info. Jai Ho is not English!!! On 31 August 2010 09:21, ::: rahmanian ::: krrajkuma...@yahoo.com wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. 00 91 99941 88566 rahmanian rajkumar http://www.youtube.com/bobyi -- Regards, Uday Kiran -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
Guys, Not sure if many of you know, Waka Waka by Shakira was not her original composition, It is an Old African song which she sang for the Football WorldCup, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEkq70uMEq0 It is not fair to compare Waka Waka by Shakira to an original composition by ARR! Thx Satish From: Farzad Khaleel farsad...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, 31 August, 2010 9:31:15 PM Subject: Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka And also since Waka Waka was based on a football worldcup in Africa, it had a lot of african beats in it. How could he compose a song like waka waka for a games going to be held in India ! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: A very sensible argument. I do not see ARR has lost it anywhere in this post. Critics, are you reading ? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:32 AM, light4_u light...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I will try to be very honest in my views. As been one of the biggest fans of ARR since years I m extremly disappointed with the song. Its not bad but its not even close to the capability of ARR n his name in the music world, he should, he could, he would have done much much better than this. The things went wrong in cwg song according to me r, 1. When some media guy asked him is it like waka waka ? ARR responded to that we tried to go beyond than waka waka or some thing like that he replied. With this reply of ARR people started to expect the song better than chaiyyan chiyaan or maa tujhe salaam, he shouldn't have said that but insted he should have said no its not like waka waka its different from that. He also said that i m working on it since 6 months. When he can deliver the whole sound track like slumdog millionaire within 21 days its but natural that people will expect him to give 100 times better a single song than the songs of sdm. 2. I loved waka waka song. Waka waka's tune was simple but melodious. Song was catchy, peppy, groovy easy to sing, easy to tap one's feet on it, superb video n shakira's charm. 3. ARR's music n compositions r difficult to understand for many people, it takes time to grow, though many people cant understand his music even afer 100 times listen. 4. ARR's movies n private albums not ment for whole india but for arr's fans n those people who can understand music very wel. Cwg song is for whole india n every1 wants to be it like their taste. We (arr fans) care a damn when others dont like his music for movies or private album's, but this time the case is different because he was suppose to give a song which can easily sung by every indian n loved by every1 (he tried to do so) but he couldn't reach his goal. 5. This kind of phase which arr is going through is not first time it has happened before also when people tried to demoralise him n tried very hard to lower his popularity, but by the grace of Almighty he only climed higher n higher. This phase is worst. But whenever that happened when his work was critisized at the extreme level he came with a BANG and silented all his critics. First, at the time of Daud n other movies of his at that time, he came with Taal etc., second time at the time of Bose-the forgetton hero n movies of his at that time, he came with RDB. ARR n Sachin Tendulkar r alike, whenever people say sachin is finish now, he hits a century, whenever people stared saying arr is gonna be a history now he came with the best music anyone can give in the world. This is the same kind of phase from which arr is going through right now, but i m very much sure that sooner or later he will make every1 silent once again inshaAllah taala. with best regards, Shehzad. -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
the constitution of india is written in english isnt it? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:31 PM, shahul_555 shahul...@gmail.com wrote: Hindi is not India's national language.. It is one of the official languages along with English but Hindi being the primary and the latter the secondary.. Below is one of the many sources.. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Theres-no-national-language-in-India-Gujarat-High-Court/articleshow/5496231.cms --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat -- www.gomzyphotography.com
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the main reason they have given for calling the CWG song a failure is that it isn't downloaded as much as Waka Waka. What a childish and immature argument that is! truly gives a general idea of people working in the media and in politics. if only they had enough brain cells to process a simple fact that Waka Waka was done by a hugely popular artiste for the biggest sporting event in the world, they'd have learned not to compare these two songs.
[arr] MARO MARO(break the rules) CWG
Hello Arr Vibrations, MARO MARO(break the rules) from BOYS would have been perfect tune for CWG theme, i feel he should have reused the same tune, it's gr song. eveybody would have kept MUM. Srinivas B
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
@ Bhagavathi Mohan : i waz comming to the same one .. Herez de original version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3qYVYMj6iI Am not finding fault with Shakira now . Taking a song and improvising waz not de job dat waz given to ARR. Nd i don think ARR sir told we r going beyond waka waka !!!
[arr] classical/carnatic/hindustani/melody list- please add
Dear friends I would like to make a list of arr songs as per subject theme 1) Kaiyil Midhakum 2) sowkiyama 6) Kannukku Mai Azhagu 7) Narumugaiye 8) lukka chupi 9) Azhage Sugama 10) Nila Kaigiradhu 11) ennavale 12) jiya jale 13) margazhi poove 14) puthu vellai mazhai 15) kwajha mere kwajha 16) --- On Tue, 8/31/10, yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:38 PM Great reading AJ! i tend to agree that the breathing space in songs is a little less nowadays...Also simple and catchy melody/tune is losing prominence to probably complicated song structure making it difficult to hum or remember the tunesCan anyone suggest why this is happening??...is this intended to be his signature or is Rahman just pushing himself too hard and experimenting to create a whole new dimension in global music... But I am not saying his complex tunes are not good in quality...they are absolutely marvellous in quality and making one introspect his music much more...and making us think a lot! Some of his best melodies are simple tune with minimal arrangements...Listen to the following to to understand what I am trying to say!This is a random list that came to my mind :) 1)En Mel Vizhundha 2)Athankarai Marame 3)Uyirum neeye 4)Kaiyil Midhakum 5)Rasaathi 6)Kannukku Mai Azhagu 7)Narumugaiye 8)Porale Ponnuthayi (Sad) 9)Azhage Sugama 10)Nila Kaigiradhu --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.not completely, but the trend is there. ARR too used to have more ethnic Indian sounding albums back then, even for contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period films. Later, the Ethnic Indian sound would be confined mostly to period film scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, Raavan, and Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and look how beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I think a lot of people are missing more of the Indian Rahman. Rahman's music over time has become more international and less Indian as a general trendagain with exceptions here and there.
[arr] IS CWG theme song been made again?
guys many internet articles have the news that A R RAHMAN have been asked to make the theme song again is it true?
[arr] Help about a Tamil song [1 Attachment]
Can anyone please let me know if the attached Tamil song is ARR's?? A friend of mine ripped it from some video and from melody/instruments he thinks it is ARR's. Anyone? If it is ARR's, which album is it from? (though I doubt as I have all his Tamil collection). If no, who is the composer and which film it is from? My friend and I don't understand Tamil therefore cannot google by lyrics. Thanks. /Jahanzeb
Re: [arr] top 10 songs from arr's own voice
also u can add 11. zikr 12. mustafa 13. theeyil vizhinda thena - godfather 14. mannippaya 15. jare ur jare/naan varuven 16. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] top 10 songs from arr's own voice To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:10 PM 3 days back I was on a train journey during a night...I had my iPOD and headphones and decided to try those songs that were sung only by ARR rahmanMan what a night it wasunforgettable tunes and great arrangements...to top it all it was the voice that was the signature of these songsGive it a try. My rankings of the top 10 songs would be: 1)New York Nagaram 2)Vellai Pookal 3)Tere Bina 4)Dil Se Re 5)Ye Jo Desh 6)Khwaja Mere 7)Humma Humma 8)Vande Mataram 9)Meherbaan 10)Rehna Tu Each song displays emotion in voice that only ARR can bring in front of the mic!
[arr] Re: MARO MARO(break the rules) CWG
Then thr wud b anodr section of guys comin out nd blamin him for reusing it Lets just njoy the song ... Everybody is entitled to his/her opinion ... so let them say wat they feel... But wats makin me angry is wat these politicians r talkin abt ... Rahul --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vasu srinivas.bhu...@... wrote: Hello Arr Vibrations, MARO MARO(break the rules) from BOYS would have been perfect tune for CWG theme, i feel he should have reused the same tune, it's gr song. eveybody would have kept MUM. Srinivas B
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
Slow poison it is... the song is really good. From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:12:20 AM Subject: Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! Did you guys observe the sound quality ? I mean the engineering. It has been better than endhiran and puli. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Suresh Jayakumar suresh6...@yahoo.com wrote: The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense. So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey ! ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr]: yeh Delhi hein mere yaar for CWG
LOL, so much of opinions ! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:47 PM, kiran injeti kiraninj...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Rahmaniacs, Was just wondering if CWG committee can try to use Delhi-6 title track (yeh delhi hein mere yaar) at the promotions, hotels, stadiums, etc alongwith the CWG anthem. Although it already sounds international, they can ask ARR to provide a english only version or something similar. Sure that it would sound catchy enough for visiting foreigners and is quite relevant for the locals as well. Regards, Kiran I K -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] ENDHIRAN IS A MINDBLOWING ALBUM
ofcourse it is. irumbile oru idhayam is stupendous and chitti dance showcase is an instrumental masterpiece. romantic interlude in it is awesome. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Jon ta.busin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Guys, Iam writing this after listening to this album for a month. This is a treasure to keep. And one of ARR's best. Everytime i keep the lyrics and listen to the album it gets better and find something new to cherish. Hats off to ARR. Music has no boundries, and this album proves it. Iam thoroughly enjoying every moment of it. *Cool * *Jon*
Re: [arr] the CWG theme is rousing, trilling, spectacular and epic
I agree. I like the CWG song. It's not his best but is nice, definitely not bad at all. Not sure why people always rush to conclude that ARR song after first few listens and that too low quality video/audio. Cheers, From: vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 8:41:48 AM Subject: [arr] the CWG theme is rousing, trilling, spectacular and epic very eclecticcatchydelivers the goodsall the detractors do is show how many people in India have horrible music taste!...hahaif this were made anywhere else, people would recognize its brilliance
Re: [arr] Rahman magic on the wane, say music lovers
She is a stage performer with energy and sex appeal. I guess his stardom is getting on his head now,” said Mr Srikanth N. an engineering student learning classical music The extent they go to is unimaginable. the one thing that he was not accused of till now. Now that they couldnt find anything else, here it is. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: let me bookmark this article. i cant restrict to think that media is highlighting negative reviews just to make sure ARR doesnt create another vande mataram. but wait and c. their back side will burn after history is created. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, SaiRam K ram4frie...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/hyderabad/rahman-magic-wane-say-music-lovers-415 Hyderabad/Chennai, Aug. 28: The theme song for the Commonwealth Games Jiyo Utho Badho Jeeto, composed by A.R. Rahman received mixed reviews from music lovers. “I usually like Rahman’s songs. I heard him sing the song and it was like any other song. I guess he is slowly losing his flavour. Shakira has her own sex appeal and Waka Waka was catchy. Of late, people are liking whatever he does for the brand he is rather than the music he composes,” said Raghu, an upcoming playback singer. “I had lots of expectations from his CWG composition. I just heard a bit of it and it is just average. I felt I heard similar songs before. I don’t know if he is overworked or saturated but Rahman’s touch is waning,” said a senior music composer on condition of anonymity. Music director Radhakrishna, who had not liked a couple of the songs composed by Rahman in his last Telugu film Em Maya Chesave, said, “He is singing this song and surely knows he will get a lot of publicity out of this event. The song will be downloaded and played by the media several times. Even if it is not that great, people will start liking it as television and radio stations will play it again and again. Rahman’s show in the city was a flop when he came here. It’s not that everything he composes is great.” Singer Anuj Gurwara, who heard the song online, said that it would be some time before people liked the song. “It is a typical Rahman number and will take time to grow on you. Initially people might think it is just an average composition but I will still wait for a few more weeks to see the public reaction,” he said. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman’s image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. “His songs of late are not what they were and the CWG one is no exception. I felt his song for CWG was so similar to what he did before. Comparing himself to Shakira is a joke. She is a stage performer with energy and sex appeal. I guess his stardom is getting on his head now,” said Mr Srikanth N. an engineering student learning classical music. However, Kollywood, Rahman’s home industry, backed him up saying the music is very typical of Rahman. Ramya, popular DJ and TV anchor, said, “Most ARR compositions would be a bit unusual and difficult to understand in the beginning; only by repeated listening will we start liking them. That’s what happened even with his latest Enthiran music. Nobody liked the music on the first day of the CD release but now people are going gaga over it.” But, software professional Vikram Mohan, 28, however, said that the score did not strike a chord with him. “The tune was not catchy and seems eminently forgettable. Compared to Shakira’s Waka Waka and other sports anthems, Rahman’s composition falls flat,” he said. -- Wit beyond measure is mans greatest treasure
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m curious to know too. can anyone throw some light on this please? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:42 PM, || V i s h w e s h || vishws...@yahoo.comwrote: Who is Sajid Patel? * *The *search* is more important than the destination - a r rahman - -- *From:* Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tue, 31 August, 2010 7:40:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] hahahaha :) VERY VERY TRUE I'm sure AR will dust off these comments and be moving forward. Bergin On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214 -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Actually hindi is NOT the national language of India it's the princial official language (for govt. administration etc.)India has MANY national languages actually.. this is from Wikipedia: The principal official language of the Republic of India is Standard Hindi, while English is the secondary official language.[2] The constitution of India states that The official language of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari script.[3] Neither the Constitution of India nor Indian law specifies a National language, a position supported by a High Court ruling.[4] However, languages listed in the Eighth Schedule of the Indian constitution are sometimes referred to, without legal standing, as the national languages of India.[5][6] --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Govt doesn`t like CWG theme song
i bet the gentleman, whomever it is, wouldn't have heard waka waka even once. if he heard it, he wouldn't have uttered those meaningless words. both songs cater to the youth and/or current generation. one wouldnt expect their grandparents to like songs like these as their minds are tuned to 'mile sur mera tumhara' though i would argue ARRs CWG anthem is universal and would cater to everyone irrespective of age, old mundle heads will not like it . i dont blame them. problem is, instead of voicing their opinion to the committee or whatever it be, people want to blow the bubble to the blunt media for telepresence. insanity. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com wrote: hmm.. so it has reached that far. if they didn't like the song, then why did they approve ? i seriously hope that he withdraws that song and use it in his album or anywhere else that it will be suitable. it is such a great song and don't deserve to be criticized with such harsh words. i am so worried for his reputation... if this whole thing turn out to be an utter mess, AR will also get the partial blame. people will start remembering him as the person who ruined CWG theme song and will foget everything about oscar and grammy's. I can't believe these people. how difficult is it to work together at least for one event to make it a success rather than making it as a platform to blame one another! this is what I hate the most about our country. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:11 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: http://www.zeenews.com/video/showvideo7970.html -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
Trying too hard at what, Gomzy? And yeah, maybe I was expecting a different flavor. Like I said, I'm warming up to it slowly. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pramod pramod...@... wrote: @ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
I am form the cairbbean, just observing the debate. I think all the statements bbeing made are not inspired by the music at all but the politics. The song has become a political issue. It is a brilliant song. People were expecting it to some how solve the problems that india found itself into with the hosting of the commonwealth games. At the smae time opposition supporters are critisiing it for policial purposes. People wanted something like waka waka. Waka waka has its identity, this song has its own. If it was comparable to waka waka, i am sure that people would have said that it was a waka waka rip off. At this stage, you cant please everyone. At the same time, a 5.5 c pricetag for one song is alot, regardless of if the song is a hit or not. From: Pramod pramod...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:43 PM Subject: Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired? @ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
No need to take, offense buddy. I have found many of your posts in the past to be offensive too as you often take things to a personal level with other members including me. I was just speculating, not analyzing. You should know the difference. This is a place to post thoughts freely, right? Inspiration is a human state of mind and in degrees. AR is human and he will be inspired in degrees, no matter which project he works on. That's all. Nothing is happening to my analytical abilities, Rawat. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: I wonder what is happening to your analytical capabilities, AJ. You propose a theory that ARR worked hard and perhaps worked too hard, and then you base your remaining analysis on this, without knowing if it is correct on not. If you don't like it, it doesn't mean that ARR worked hard or too hard or hardly. All those critics of enthiran can also say the same, that ARR worked too hard on enthiran, without knowing whether he had or not. I wonder how could you not see that vandemataram is our national song, and people have a chord attached to it, so we were already willing to someone giving us our national song in the cacophony of other MDs who never bothered about nation. That helped in people liking it. Vandemataram was in two albums, including janganman, and there were several versions of it in them, so it was not just one composition by ARR. someone might have liked one, other one might have disliked the version the first one liked but might have liked the other one and so on, and thus album had one likeable version for each of all. Tamil theme song, gujarat theme song, 20-20 theme song, it is not the first theme song that ARR had done, so why whould he not grasp all those patriotic and other elements in this particular theme song when he got them all always in other theme songs in right proportions? You are working on theories that might not be your forte and you are be aware of facts. You should analyze the song musically as you have musical knowledge and past proven capability to do that. I personally find did ARR feel truly inspired? is very offensive and accusing. -- Rawat On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@... mailto:purev...@... wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here.
Re: [arr] Help about a Tamil song
Hi, This is not a Tamil song instead, the language is *'Malayalam'*. Here are the details of the song: *Song: Karimizhi kuruviye kandeela, nin chirimani chilaboli ketteela.* *Music Director: Vidyasagar* *Lyrics: (Late) Girish Puthenchery* ** *Singers: Prathap Chandran, Sujatha Mohan* *Movie: Meesha Madhavan (2002)* Vidyasagar is quite popular a music director here in the south. He had won the National Award for Best Music Director in 2005 for his score in a 'Telugu' movie named 'Swarabhishekam'. Read more about him in his wiki page at the followng address: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidyasagar_(music_director) Warm regards, Pramod. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Jahanzeb Tippu jahanzebti...@yahoo.comwrote: [Attachment(s)https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12aca006c30bb948_TopTextfrom Jahanzeb Tippu included below] Can anyone please let me know if the attached Tamil song is ARR's?? A friend of mine ripped it from some video and from melody/instruments he thinks it is ARR's. Anyone? If it is ARR's, which album is it from? (though I doubt as I have all his Tamil collection). If no, who is the composer and which film it is from? My friend and I don't understand Tamil therefore cannot google by lyrics. Thanks. /Jahanzeb -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
There are a number of ARR's songs which tend to take time to grown on you, but this one is an exception, at least for me. I just fell in love with the song the moment I first heard it. It has a great blend of carribean, western and Indian music. The increase of tempo was done gradually and tastefully, with the highest tempo saved for the last few seconds. It was absolutely delighful to hear the number! This brings me to the two questions that was running through my mind while reading the criritcms on the song. 1) Wasn't this song inspiring and passionate? I personally felt it was the right song for Commonwealth- in fact, I even feel like participating in the games after listening to the number. It has the right tempo, the right punch, the right feel that you would want to hear from a sports theme song, doesn't it? Someone once said that ARR would have composed a better song if only he was given more time. I disagree. I always believed that ARR gives his best regardless of how long/short the time given to him. And this time too, I believe that ARR has given his best-the song is superb! 2) Comparison with Waka Waka First of all let me confess, I love waka waka but I still don't understand why anyone wants to compare waka waka with CWG theme. In fact, I don't know why the topic of comparison only arise when ARR composes a number. I don't think anyone would have compared Shakira with Anastacia's Boom or Ricky Martin's The Cup of Life -and Martin's song was a huge hit when it was released! Personally, I don't know what people were expecting? Are they genuinely looking for ARR to pull of a Waka Waka? Or even a Maa Tujhe Salam? Someone here mentioned that they were hoping for a number in the lines of Maro Maro. I'm seriously glad ARR hasn't done any of that. CWG is wonderful and fresh as it is. Then again, I also don't think waka waka was cheesy or that Shakira would be finished if ARR had pulled a better number. In fact, I felt so offended when such comments are passed on Shakira and her song. When are we going to stop putting other artists down in order to praise ARR? Doesn't ARR's work speaks for themselves? --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Arr Fan arr...@rocketmail.com wrote: From: Arr Fan arr...@rocketmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:34 PM Slow poison it is... the song is really good. From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:12:20 AM Subject: Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! Did you guys observe the sound quality ? I mean the engineering. It has been better than endhiran and puli. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Suresh Jayakumar suresh6...@yahoo.com wrote: The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense.So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey !ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Re: ARR's theme song didn't strike me
hmmm. I'm tired reading/replying all these messages, news... i want to leave this behind now... We know what AR is capable of... there is a tamil proverb 'Thootruvor thootrattum...' Save energy to write/discuss on some good stuff well... When is Endhiren movie releasing? and when is Jhoota hi sahi releasing??? Let's move on... Cheers, Bergin On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:33 PM, diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I agree! I like the start of the song and basically all the solo ARR lines. But overall feel the magic is missing! Don't find the refrain catchy enough. Maybe ARR himself has molded my taste in such a way that I find it difficult to appreciate over simplistic tunes. His singing is superb though, it's easily the best thing about the song in my opinion. Comparisons with Maa Tujhe Salaam are inevitable, which is the reason some people are disappointed by the song. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: I gave it a few listens, but I honestly didn't find it too appealing. I did appreciate the musical creativity and the mood that AR tried to capture in this song, but I couldn't connect with it much. Perhaps this is a grower, but for now, I am not bowled over. Rahman's theme songs in recent times haven't impressed me much musically or emotionally in general, though I appreciate the effort behind them. -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] ENDHIRAN IS A MINDBLOWING ALBUM
Hi All Maniacs of RAHMAN, Its always been like this. I made it a point long time ago to not to comment anything up untill I listen to ARRji's new composition for atleast a month or more than that. Its like a SLOW POISON. I am sure the veteran RAHMANIACS would agree to this. Regards P'ARR'THA. --- On Wed, 1/9/10, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] ENDHIRAN IS A MINDBLOWING ALBUM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 2:14 AM ofcourse it is. irumbile oru idhayam is stupendous and chitti dance showcase is an instrumental masterpiece. romantic interlude in it is awesome. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Jon ta.busin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Guys, Iam writing this after listening to this album for a month. This is a treasure to keep. And one of ARR's best. Everytime i keep the lyrics and listen to the album it gets better and find something new to cherish. Hats off to ARR. Music has no boundries, and this album proves it. Iam thoroughly enjoying every moment of it. Cool Jon
