[arr] Re: The dilemma about extracts from DVD!

[lalisingh20]

Vithur bhai, pls don't stop sharing the BGM.

If you read kaissiom email carefully, I think he's saying it's ok
toshare BGMs but not vocals.

hey kaissiom, thanks for giving us the BGMs and taking it away from
us.  I was thinking do you mind if I ask you wat u do for a living...
because ur emails are always long and serious.

I have a solution to this dilemma: BAN kaissiom from posting anything
on this group... and everything will return to normal.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dear Aravind, 
 
 Now you feel the dilemma I have been facing for at least a year or
 two... ever since I heard my BGM on Radio.  I have numerous BGMs and
 other High Quality rips from DVDs that I can't share :(
 
 The fact is... we trust our brothers and sisters on this group here. 
 We are all here for the same purpose... to share and celebrate Rahman.
  And it is with this spirit that we share these rare and generally
 unavailable bits and pieces.  But once we share something in the
 public space like this group, whatever we share becomes available to
 the public, who doesn't necessarily have to be a true, devoted,
 dedicated Rahman fan.
 
 You can not imagine the pain I felt when I heard my BGM on the Radio.
  And I knew it was my BGM because it was edited.. I had edited it.  I
 felt like I had somehow betrayed Rahman... his hard work.  That's when
 I made the conscious decision to stop sharing BGMs.. it was right
 after RDB bgms.  
 
 Anyhow... I would definitely like to point out one major thing...
 namely the difference between a)BGMs and b)Vocals from DVD
 
 I'm not aware of the copyright laws about the soundtrack on DVDs, but
 it would be great if someone(Amith Chandran?) could shed some light on
 that.  But please notice the difference between the above mentioned
 musical bits from DVD:
 
 a)BGM (Background Music) bits:
 1. Available commercially: NO.. unless released as a soundtrack like
 some of the tracks in BOSE.
 2. Rights owned by: Producer/Composer, don't know?  
 3. Violations of copyright laws: Maybe, don't know?
 
 b)Vocals (extracted from DVD):
 1. Available commercially: YES.. in the form of original CD.  We are
 extracting the music(vocals) from the DVD, but the same exact music is
 available in the commercial form in original CD.  Commercial here
 implies money can be made from it.  And technically it shouldn't
 matter if you extract vocals from a CD or a DVD... because it's the
 same song and the same vocals.  Therefore, you are tampering with a
 commercially available product.. which definitely implies violation of
 copyright laws.
 2. Rights owned by: same right-holders as the original CD
 3. Violated of copyright: Definitely YES.
 
 Therefore, to conclude, we must note the obvious difference between
 just a BGM(not commercially available) vs. Vocals(Commercially
 available in form of CD).  
 
 The copyright laws regarding BGMs are not very clear and may not be
 very well defined in the legal system.. it may be something like...
 All rights of the DVD are owned by the producer? But we can still
 argue that BGMs are by themselves not available to the public in
 commercial form.  If there is demand for it then maybe these
 producers/composers should start making BGMs commercially available...
 that way we don't have to go through the process of ripping and
 sharing these BGMS.  It could be a market they are overlooking and
 while they do something about it, we are filling up the void for the
 die-hard fans and that too for free.  The free part is a big deal
 because nobody is making money from these BGMs and that is what it
 boils down to.. how much money did the copyright holders lose?  
 
 On the other hand, copyright laws of Audio CD are very well defined. 
 Either the Record Company owns it(most of the times) or the producer
 owns it or the composer owns it or they own it partially( Rahman is
 working on it).  
 I believe full length vocals of any song should not be shared..for the
 very same reason we do not share full length audio songs from Rahman's
 CDs.  
 
 Rahman is an excellent corporate citizen and he is our role model.  We
 should learn from him and follow him in his ideals as true fans.  We
 as a group and as true Rahman fans are against piracy and plagiarism.
  Not just Rahman's... please buy original CDs and DVDs of all the
 Artists you like!
 
 Make Rahman Proud,
 Wasim.
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ wrote:
 
  Hi all,
  
  I have extracted voice only tracks of songs in Taal and Dil-Se...
 But, now I'm having second thoughts on uploading it to the group.
  
  After seeing this series of mails on whether or not sharing this
 mail, I'm now thoroughly confused.  On reading kaissiom's mail, I
 could truly empathise with his argument. Whatever he has mentioned in
 his mail makes a lot of sense, and he is totally justified! 
  
  Now, I'm torn between the two  - joy of sharing and
 ethics/copyright issues. 
  
  Gopal 

[arr] Pls request to kaissiom - Pls share the complete Khwaja mere

[lalisingh20]

Hi kaissiom,

Can you pls pls pls share the complete Khwaja unplugged version?  We
know you work hard on whatever you share and we also understand that
you don't always want to share everything.  But the 1 minute of Khwaja
is killing me, I just cannot get enough of it its always on repeat,its
so divine.  Pls don't tease us like that.  I'm sure others will want
the same.  I have heard it hundreds of times and everytime I want it
continue more then the 1:08 secs. I feel like something is missing in
my life just the way the song ends.  Pls pls pls I'm even willing to
compensate you for this.

am i the only one feeling like this?

Vithur bhai if you have it pls share it, please.

[arr] Re: [Translation] - Zindagi Zindagi

[lalisingh20]

OK my sense of poetry is overrated.  Could u please explain the poetry
behind these lyrics below, it makes no sense to me at all:

Chalka Chalka Re from Saathiya:

gaeyaa meree pyaasee rah gayee 
tulasee vaalee vaadee rah gayee
chuulhaa main jalaatee rah gayee

As far as I can understand it says
My cow remained thirsty
the valley of tulasi remained
I kept burning the stove

Now, someone please explain how these genius of lyrics are supposed to
describe the joy of a girl who is engaged and about to get married.

I don't even understand tamil and I prefer listening to Yaro Yarodi
than listening to the Chalka chalka one because it makes no damn
sense.  Better to listen to something that you don't understand than
listen to something that makes no sense.

I'm nobody to doubt Gulzars lyrics, but honestly Javed Akthar write
simple yet elegant lyrics, and to the point.  Gulzar write these
metaphors that only he can understand.  Like i mentioned gulzars lyrix
are fancy because the plugs in hindi/urdu/farsi words.  Since most
people dont' understand it they think it must be class. Also, did you
know that Chaiya chiaya from dilse is actually a punjabi folk song
with punjabi lyrics.  Alot of people said rahman copied the music, but
in reality they were talking about the lyrics. Gulzar simply turned
the punjabi lyrics into hindi/ urdu lyrics.

I think most people would agree that best Hindi lyrical quality for
RAhman comes from Javed Akthr and then Prasson Joshi and then maybe
Mehboob.  Every time Rahman teams up with Gulzar, I'm hesitant and I
hope he does a good job.  Tere bina in Guru was reaaly realy good, but
what about barso re, yammo, does it make sense? But notice gulzar also
happnes to churn out good lyrics for his friends like vishal bhardwaj.


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gulzar isnt overrated mate. Your sense of poetry is.  :P
 
 On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Siraj K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks much, buddy.. Very nice translation indeed.
 
  -Siraj
 
 
  On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:42 PM, lalisingh20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
 
Thanx a lot for the trans. kaissiom you did a very good job. you
  should do more songs. And yes, i think gulzar is overrated, a lot of
  time it makes no sense what he writes. Epecially when he mixes up
  hindi, urdu and farsi.
 
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  kaissiom kaissiom@ wrote:
  
   Hi Guys,
  
   Here's my attempt at translating Zindagi. I have not checked
out the
   rest of the album yet. This song is on 'repeat' and I'm unable
to skip
   it as of yet. [:D] The lyrics and underlying beats are
reminiscent of
 
   Zindagi from Meenaxi, albeit a little faster.
  
   * As the lyrics happen to be by Gulzar, it's needless to say
that they
   are open to interpretation. Remember Naram naram ujlaa dhuan from
   Saathiya? So, please forgive me if the translation doesn't fit your
   interpretation.
  
   Here goes:
  
   Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
   -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
   Aankh ki kor mein...
   -[Corner of the eye...]
   Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
   -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
  
   Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
   -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
   Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
   -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
   Tu kahan kho gayi?
   -[Where did you get lost?]
   Tu kahan kho gayi?
   -[Where did you get lost?]
   Koi aaya nahin
   -[Nobody came!]
   Do-peher ho gayi
   -[Half of the day(life) has passed]
   Koi aaya nahin
   -[And nobody came!]
   Zindagi Zindagi
   -[Life O' Life]
  
   Din aaye, din jaaye
   -[Days come, days go]
   Sadiyaan bhi gin aaye
   -[Eons have goneby counting]
   Sadiyaan re...
   -[Eons...]
   Tanhayee lipti hai...
   -[Engulfed in loneliness...]
   Lipti hai saansoun ki
   -[Engulfed in the loneliness of breathing]
   Rasiya re...
   -[O dear one (lover)...]
   Tere bina badi pyasi hai
   -[Without you, they're very thirsty]
   Tere bina hai pyasi re
   -[Without you, they're thirsty]
   Nainoun ki do saakhiyan re
   -[The two; pair of eyes]
   Tanha re...
   -[Lonely...]
   Main tanha re
   -[I am lonely]
  
   Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
   -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
   Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
   -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
   Zindagi Zindagi
   -[Life O' Life]
  
   Subah ka kohra hai
   -[There is the fog of morning]
   Sham ki dhool hai
   -[There is the dust of evening]
   Tanhayee hai
   -[There is the loneliness]
   Raat bhi sard hai
   -[The night is also cold]
   Dard hi dard hai
   -[There is the continuous pain]
   Ruswayee hai
   -[There is the separation/humiliation]
   Kaise katein?
   -[How will this pass?]
   Saansein uljhi hain
   -[Breathing is complicated]
   Raatein badi jhulsi jhulsi hain
   -[The nights are very slow]
   Naina, kori sadiyaan re
   -[Eyes- empty for eons]
   Tanha re...
   -[Lonely...]
   Main tanha

Re: [arr] - Zindagi Zindagi (Gulzarji and Javedji).. to lalisingh

[lalisingh20]

  understood lines? No.. So we can find fault... But did they make
you curious
  to know their meanings? For me, YES ..i searched for every
  meaning..word-by-word and the song's beauty manifested in more
sublimal
  realm. It works for me.
 
  One of my fav line of Gulzar: Raqs karthi hai Shab bhar, meri
tanhaayee
  hain.. (from a non-ARR song).
 
  Firstly, i liked the sound of the words Raqs and Shab. if you are
curious
  enough, plz look into their meanings and let me know if you liked
that line.
 
  To give a very loose generic analogy, Javed Akhtar's lines are like
  Ashutosh Gowariker films..Simple...Very good..honest.. and
Gulzar's lines
  are like Maniratnam films.. a bit more aesthetic, thought-provoking,
  sensitive.  Now i dont know if it is coincidence or my exactness
in analogy,
  that Ashutosh vibes well with Javed Akhtar and Maniratnam with
Gulzar. .
 
  As i said, it is matter of one's sensibilities and the kind of
poetry one
  likes. Both are geniuses in their own way.
   Regards
  *Kamal Aakarsh Vishnubhotla.*
  **
  *http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com *
 
 
 
  --- On *Sat, 10/18/08, Pravinder Sheoran [EMAIL PROTECTED]*wrote:
 
  From: Pravinder Sheoran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [arr] Re: [Translation] - Zindagi Zindagi
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 2:18 PM
 
   Does not matter how many reasons you give man,
  Gulzar is the best lyricist we have in Indian film industry.
 
  Why don't you listen the following:
  Saathiya,
  Satarangi re,
  Mera yaar milade saaiyan
 
  and many more.
 
  Pravinder.
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  lalisingh20 lalisingh20@ ...
  wrote:
  
   OK my sense of poetry is overrated. Could u please explain the
poetry
   behind these lyrics below, it makes no sense to me at all:
  
   Chalka Chalka Re from Saathiya:
  
   gaeyaa meree pyaasee rah gayee
   tulasee vaalee vaadee rah gayee
   chuulhaa main jalaatee rah gayee
  
   As far as I can understand it says
   My cow remained thirsty
   the valley of tulasi remained
   I kept burning the stove
  
   Now, someone please explain how these genius of lyrics are
supposed to
   describe the joy of a girl who is engaged and about to get married.
  
   I don't even understand tamil and I prefer listening to Yaro Yarodi
   than listening to the Chalka chalka one because it makes no damn
   sense. Better to listen to something that you don't understand than
   listen to something that makes no sense.
  
   I'm nobody to doubt Gulzars lyrics, but honestly Javed Akthar write
   simple yet elegant lyrics, and to the point. Gulzar write these
   metaphors that only he can understand. Like i mentioned gulzars
lyrix
   are fancy because the plugs in hindi/urdu/farsi words. Since most
   people dont' understand it they think it must be class. Also,
did you
   know that Chaiya chiaya from dilse is actually a punjabi folk song
   with punjabi lyrics. Alot of people said rahman copied the
music, but
   in reality they were talking about the lyrics. Gulzar simply turned
   the punjabi lyrics into hindi/ urdu lyrics.
  
   I think most people would agree that best Hindi lyrical quality for
   RAhman comes from Javed Akthr and then Prasson Joshi and then maybe
   Mehboob. Every time Rahman teams up with Gulzar, I'm hesitant and I
   hope he does a good job. Tere bina in Guru was reaaly realy
good, but
   what about barso re, yammo, does it make sense? But notice
gulzar also
   happnes to churn out good lyrics for his friends like vishal
bhardwaj.
  
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@  wrote:
   
Gulzar isnt overrated mate. Your sense of poetry is. :P
   
On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 4:35 AM, Siraj K cutesiraj@ wrote:
   
 Thanks much, buddy.. Very nice translation indeed.

 -Siraj


 On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 9:42 PM, lalisingh20 lalisingh20@
wrote:

 Thanx a lot for the trans. kaissiom you did a very good
job. you
 should do more songs. And yes, i think gulzar is overrated, a
  lot of
 time it makes no sense what he writes. Epecially when he
mixes up
 hindi, urdu and farsi.


 --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups.
comarrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com
  arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com,
 kaissiom kaissiom@ wrote:
 
  Hi Guys,
 
  Here's my attempt at translating Zindagi. I have not checked
   out the
  rest of the album yet. This song is on 'repeat' and I'm
unable
   to skip
  it as of yet. [:D] The lyrics and underlying beats are
   reminiscent of

  Zindagi from Meenaxi, albeit a little faster.
 
  * As the lyrics happen to be by Gulzar, it's needless to say
   that they
  are open to interpretation. Remember Naram naram ujlaa
  dhuan from
  Saathiya? So, please forgive me if the translation doesn't
  fit your
  interpretation.
 
  Here goes:
 
  Zindagi Zindagi

[arr] Re: [Translation] - Zindagi Zindagi

[lalisingh20]

Thanx a lot for the trans. kaissiom you did a very good job. you
should do more songs.  And yes, i think gulzar is overrated, a lot of
time it makes no sense what he writes.  Epecially when he mixes up
hindi, urdu and farsi.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 
 Here's my attempt at translating Zindagi.  I have not checked out the
 rest of the album yet.  This song is on 'repeat' and I'm unable to skip
 it as of yet.  [:D]   The lyrics and underlying beats are reminiscent of
 Zindagi from Meenaxi, albeit a little faster.
 
 * As the lyrics happen to be by Gulzar, it's needless to say that they
 are open to interpretation.  Remember Naram naram ujlaa dhuan from
 Saathiya? So, please forgive me if the translation doesn't fit your
 interpretation.
 
 Here goes:
 
 Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
 -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
 Aankh ki kor mein...
 -[Corner of the eye...]
 Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
 -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
 
 Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
 -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
 Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
 -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
 Tu kahan kho gayi?
 -[Where did you get lost?]
 Tu kahan kho gayi?
 -[Where did you get lost?]
 Koi aaya nahin
 -[Nobody came!]
 Do-peher ho gayi
 -[Half of the day(life) has passed]
 Koi aaya nahin
 -[And nobody came!]
 Zindagi Zindagi
 -[Life O' Life]
 
 Din aaye, din jaaye
 -[Days come, days go]
 Sadiyaan bhi gin aaye
 -[Eons have goneby counting]
 Sadiyaan re...
 -[Eons...]
 Tanhayee lipti hai...
 -[Engulfed in loneliness...]
 Lipti hai saansoun ki
 -[Engulfed in the loneliness of breathing]
 Rasiya re...
 -[O dear one (lover)...]
 Tere bina badi pyasi hai
 -[Without you, they're very thirsty]
 Tere bina hai pyasi re
 -[Without you, they're thirsty]
 Nainoun ki do saakhiyan re
 -[The two; pair of eyes]
 Tanha re...
 -[Lonely...]
 Main tanha re
 -[I am lonely]
 
 Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
 -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
 Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
 -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
 Zindagi Zindagi
 -[Life O' Life]
 
 Subah ka kohra hai
 -[There is the fog of morning]
 Sham ki dhool hai
 -[There is the dust of evening]
 Tanhayee hai
 -[There is the loneliness]
 Raat bhi sard hai
 -[The night is also cold]
 Dard hi dard hai
 -[There is the continuous pain]
 Ruswayee hai
 -[There is the separation/humiliation]
 Kaise katein?
 -[How will this pass?]
 Saansein uljhi hain
 -[Breathing is complicated]
 Raatein badi jhulsi jhulsi hain
 -[The nights are very slow]
 Naina, kori sadiyaan re
 -[Eyes- empty for eons]
 Tanha re...
 -[Lonely...]
 Main tanha re
 -[I am lonely]
 
 Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
 -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
 Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
 -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
 
 Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
 -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
 Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
 -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
 Tu kahan kho gayi?
 -[Where did you get lost?]
 Koi aaya nahin
 -[Nobody came!]
 Do-peher ho gayi
 -[Half of the day(life) has passed)]
 Koi aaya nahin
 -[And nobody came!]
 
 Zindagi Zindagi, kya kami reh gayi?
 -[Life O' Life, what is missing?]
 Aankh ki kor mein, kyon nami reh gayi?
 -[Why is the corner of the eye moist?]
 
 
 regards,
 Waism.

Re: [arr] After hearing a bit of the first Yuvraaj song.....

[lalisingh20]

Wow,

JTYJN was never as par ARR standards.
..cant digest JTYJN... etc

What is wrong with you all, Jaane Tu is a major success.  Me, my
friends, my family and everyone I know loves Papu, kabhi kabhi and
Kahin to.  Kabhi Kabhi is a craze all over India.

It's one thing for chord to express his opinion, he's entitled to it.
 But it's another thing when Rahman is changing or setting a new trend
and his fans are still stuck in the 90's as if the y2k bug never hit
them.  It's even 8 years since y2k, times change, so does music. so
does Rahman.  I'm glad he's changing and i'm happy with his music,
Rahman does not need a few fans to validate his standards or success.
The sales and the popularity speak for him.  He's still the best in
the market, Yuvvraaj or not.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pravinder Sheoran
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 I absolutely agree with Chord here.
 I remember when JTYJN music released and Chord said it wasn't as good
 as expected, I was so angry and had written against Chord.
 But later on I realized that its true, JTYJN was never as par ARR
 standards.
 
 Now with Yuvvraj trailer, ask your heart guys, what do you feel when
 you listen to that hummimg which by no standards seems to have been
 composed by ARR.
 
 Those who say that we should wait until full song releases; well guys
 remember Taal tarilers, the best tune was released in the very first
 trailer.
 So don't expect that Ghai has some surprise hidden in this song.
 
 Please do not be angry, coz After listening Meenaxi or Jodhaa Akbar, i
 can't digest JTYJN or this yuvvraj trailer.
 There is something seriously wrong here, I can sense that.
 After spending nights and nights talking about ARR with friends, after
 trying my best to make everyone believe ARR was best, I can't believe
 i would ever write such mail in this group.
 
 Pravinder.   
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord purevibz@ wrote:
 
  LOL.Oh, I see.  If we criticize anything about ARR's music, we're
  not fans.  LOL.  This topic is not worth responding to after this. 
  Let it go guys.  I'm just as excited about Yuvvraaj as all of you.
  
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Kumaresh-n kumaresh.n86@ wrote:
  
   So called fans...
   
   
   2008/10/4 Gopal Srinivasan catchgops@
   
  One of those times that makes me wonder if Arr is better off
 without
fans
   
   
|| V i s h w e s h || wrote:
 You guys... I don't understand that why are you in so much
 hurry to
present your thoughts after hearing only tiny bit of piece out of
  the whole
soundtrack which could be much different than what is presented
 in the
trailer... so why don't we listen to the whole thing first  then
  only share
the wisdom...   The search is more important than the destination
   - a r
rahman - --- On Sat, 4/10/08, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote:
 From:
Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: [arr] After hearing a bit
 of the
first Yuvraaj
 song. To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, 4
  October,
2008, 6:13 AM
 My thoughts .
 1) People wishing for Taal II, forget it. No Taal hangover
likely
 with this record, and Rahman will never reach the same heights
 as he
 once did in the late 1990s (it's only normal since every
 artist has
 their peak and it doesn't mean that Rahman cannot come out with
 brilliant work today, as he has proven many times recently).
 2) Soundtrack will likely be quite commercial oriented with
 hummable
 melodies, but less of classical, old melody styles that we heard
  in JA
 and Ada.
 3) The tempo of this song is THE EXACT SAME TEMPO (speed)
that you
 hear in the instrumental piece on the website. May not mean
  anything,
 just an observation. Frankly, I am a bit underwhelmed by this
  song SO
 FAR, which may just only be my perception and expectations.
 4) I fear less ethnic percussion and more keyboard rhythms
in this
 soundtrack (as we just heard).
 5) Expect lots of strings, choirs, piano, and other symphonic
 arrangements (as we have also heard a bit) with less of
 traditional
 Indian instrumentation as Western classical music appears to
 be the
 musical backdrop for this film.
 6) Rahman once said that the soundtrack is mellow. Combine
that
 with words like peaceful and soulful, you get the idea.
 7) Many will be initially disappointed with the music, as
  comparisons
 to Taal and Kisna will be abound, but the music will catch on
 later.
 Look for 1/5 review by Mr. Tootsie Pop of indiafm.
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[arr] Re: Khwaja Ji (Unplugged) - Listen to that voice!

[lalisingh20]

Yes, I too agree with you 100%.  Its just simply amazing.  This is why
this group Rocks!  where else can you find this rare piece.

Thanks kaissiom for all you hard work we all love you.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sreekrishnan R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Dear Wasim Bhai..
 
 Now your gift for us is my Morning Alarm Tone in my Mobile..
 Oh Almighty.. really the last two days' mornings were so spiritual
and fresh.. and my days were also. Even now when I type this mail , I
can feel the peace and happiness in my heart.. This all happens to me
because of your efforts.. Thanks Bhai , a whole lifetime.
 
 It's like the Almighty is calling me on my ears to get up.. Oh
friends.. No Words.. My mornings and days are really blessed with this
soothing voice of Rahmanji..
 
 Try it for your Alarm Tone.. I'm sure , you'll be moved and your
days will be blessed ! :-)
 
 Love you Bro.. Thank you again... Waiting for more :-)
 
 
 -- 
 Prayers..
 
 Krish..
 His Music ~ My Mother Tongue 
  
  
  
  
 Religion teaches a person what his or her real self is, why he has
been created and it also tells a person about his relation with his
father, mother, wife and daughter. For me religion is a personal
journey to other things. -- ARR
 
 www.orkut.com/AlbumList.aspx?uid=7295035299513517297
 
 
 --- On Sat, 27/9/08, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 From: kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [arr] Khwaja Ji (Unplugged) - Listen to that voice!
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Saturday, 27 September, 2008, 5:21 AM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 I wish I had a secret friend at Panchatan :)
 
 Gomzy is right, I ripped it from the DVD.  The process is the opposite
 
 of ripping the BGMs and plus 3 or 4 additional steps.  It's difficult,
 
 but it's not impossible.  I'm glad my efforts paid off, I'm glad you
 
 guys liked the piece.  The singing is just so soulful that it is hard
 
 not to like it.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Wasim.
 
 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Gomzy gomtesh.upadhye@ ...
wrote:
 
 
 
  No one actually. Wasim in all probabiltiy has used the song from
the DVD
 
  from which one can get
 
  dedicated center output. But again its not not easy to get such an
 
  output(from a song that is) and thats where he is an expert :)
 
  
 
  On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:07 PM, fani kalyan rythmdivine2001@
...wrote:
 
  
 
  So whos da secret friend at panchatan??? :P
 
   neways thanks so much for da share :)
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 10:50 AM, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 comkaissiom@ ...
 
wrote:
 
  
 
 Hello Rahmaniacs,
 
  
 
   I have uploaded Khwaja Ji, unplugged version - a part of it at
 
 least.  I
 
   can not upload the entire song for obvious reasons.
 
  
 
   Listen to that divine voice! He does not need any music, you
 
 won't even
 
   notice that the music is not there.
 
  
 
   I'm uploading this bit especially for Vithur and all other
 
 Rahmaniacs who
 
   make this group so special and worthwhile.  Keep up the good work.
 
  
 
   http://briefcase. yahoo.com/ kaissiom
 
   - Click on the link above
 
   - Click on the 'AR Rahman' folder
 
   - Enjoy!
 
  
 
   As always,
 
   Wasim.
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
   --
 
   regards,
 
   Vithur
 
  
 
   ARR in my Heart;
 
   His Music in my Blood;
 
  
 
  
 
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   Yahoo!
 
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Re: [arr] Kaissiom's Stolen Treasure!

[lalisingh20]

Wow,wow,wow! Simply no words to express my feelings. Thanks a million
for posting this amazing number,listening to it in such a crystal
clear quality sound gave me goosebumps. It's hard enough to find the
original hindi CD of Chor Chor, and listening to it in this quality is
only a dream come true. Thanks You Kaissiom for ripping and Thank you
Syed for sharing. One more addition to my kaissiom folder! I simply
don't understand how wasim rips these songs and BGMs, even with all
the software and things.

I second Thulasi here, I wish I had wasim's external HD :)


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hello syed..this is such an amazing share and i havent heard thee
thee song
 with a crystal clear recording. m surprised with the audio quality.. m
 wondering how the recordings in 90s is able to give such output. really
 great..
 
 thiruda thiruda is a mindblowing album.. i hope ARR comes up with
another
 thee thee song in the near future.. possibly in Ghajini?!
 
 thanx Wasim for the rip.. i wish i have ur external HD!!!
 
 On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:37 AM, syed.sahel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hi friends,
 
  My cousin, wasim, is on vacation, roaming around somwhere in Inida
and I
  have access to his external drive on which he stores his entire
back-up of
  Rahman collection.  Wasim is really cool with me, we keep playing
pranks on
  each other so I thought why not play a prank on him and at the
same time
  help all the rahmaniacs out.  He used to share a lot of pieces
before, but
  he has stopped doing so in the past year or so for personal reasons.
 
  So as a prank, I have decided to share one of the rare gems from his
  library.  I know he will be mad at me, but I can deal with that. 
It was
  difficult to decide what to share; BGMs, rare pieces or
DVD-Quality songs.
  After thinking for a long time, I decided to share just one song.
 One song
  can be taken as prank but more than one can get me in trouble.  So, I
  thought about it and therefore, I'm sharing one High Quality song.
 
  He has a lot of DVD-Quality songs, but this is definitely one of
the rarest
  and the best of the best from his collection.. a real treat for
  Rahmaniacs.
 
  He had posted one Roja song in DVD-Quality, for all you HQ
enthusiasts,
  here is ultra high, DVD-Quality Chor Chor (Thiruda Thiruda) song:
 
  I'm going to try my best to not offend Wasim, and try to post this
like
  kaissiom would.
 
  Please do me a favor, if you download the song and enjoy it please
make
  sure to thank kaissiom, not me.
 
  So, here's how kaissiom would do it, ready:
 
  *Hello Rahmaniacs,
 
  Here is a DVD-Quality Chor Chor song.  I'm just doing a service
for the
  group.  Please don't support piracy, read the following disclaimer
before
  you download the song, thanks.
 
  You must read the following discalimer before downloading:
 
  By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you
  currently own the original copy, CD/Tape of the Song: Dil Hai
Sanam Dil
  From: Chor Chor(Hindi). The content provided to you for downloading is
  strictly for backup purposes. I, Kaissiom, certify that I own the
  original content and make duplicates for backup purposes only. By
  downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the
  original content and want to protect it from possible damage. This is
  a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm
  only providing backups of the music you already own. I, Kaissiom, will
  not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. If you
  sell, trade, or forfeit your ownership of your original software, you
  agree to destroy the CDR or any digital backups of that title. You
  take full responsibility for your own actions when using these
  back-ups and release Kaissiom from all liabilities, which may arise -
  expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are
  complying with these regulations. This allows me (Kaissiom) to
  duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my
  backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective
  third parties.
 
  Link:
 
  http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9777ZZ06
 
  p.s. I do appreciate all your comments and replies but I probably
won't
  reply to them. Although I'm a regular visitor, I only post on the
group when
  I'm sharing something. [image: :)]
 
  regards,
  kaissiom* 
 
  Enjoy the song and pray he doesn't kill me.
 
  regards,
  Rahmaniac.
   
 

Re: [arr] Kaissiom's Stolen Treasure! Sorry !

[lalisingh20]

Gomzy, what are you listening to it on?  Try listening to it on good
headphones or sytem.  There is a huge difference, you will definitely
appreciate it.  The bass is smooth and the highs are crystal clear.  I
tried playing this version and right after playing the 128 mp3.  Big
differnce!

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well on another note, I do not find the song to be that high a
quality as i
 thought.
 
 I have loved Wasim's files and i still treasure them, but I do not
find this
 file to be
 that good. This file needs 50% more volume than what my mp3 does and
is less
 crisp.
 Agreed that the surround is better , but that is about it.
 
 
 On 7/29/08, Dinesh Vaidya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I find many of you going GA GA over a song which is NOT shared
by the
  creator ( even if it is a prank by his relative ) and nobody is
  marking any token protest ?
 
  Its ok if I am in the minority here but I will prefer not to download
  this song till Wassim himself releases it.
 
  Best regards
  Dinesh Vaidya
  Pune
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  lalisingh20 lalisingh20@
  wrote:
  
   Wow,wow,wow! Simply no words to express my feelings. Thanks a
million
   for posting this amazing number,listening to it in such a crystal
   clear quality sound gave me goosebumps. It's hard enough to find the
   original hindi CD of Chor Chor, and listening to it in this
quality is
   only a dream come true. Thanks You Kaissiom for ripping and
Thank you
   Syed for sharing. One more addition to my kaissiom folder! I
simply
   don't understand how wasim rips these songs and BGMs, even with all
   the software and things.
  
   I second Thulasi here, I wish I had wasim's external HD :)
  
  
   --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  Thulasi Ram karokelip@ wrote:
   
hello syed..this is such an amazing share and i havent heard thee
   thee song
with a crystal clear recording. m surprised with the audio
quality.. m
wondering how the recordings in 90s is able to give such output.
  really
great..
   
thiruda thiruda is a mindblowing album.. i hope ARR comes up with
   another
thee thee song in the near future.. possibly in Ghajini?!
   
thanx Wasim for the rip.. i wish i have ur external HD!!!
   
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 1:37 AM, syed.sahel syed.sahel@ wrote:
   
 Hi friends,

 My cousin, wasim, is on vacation, roaming around somwhere in
Inida
   and I
 have access to his external drive on which he stores his entire
   back-up of
 Rahman collection. Wasim is really cool with me, we keep playing
   pranks on
 each other so I thought why not play a prank on him and at the
   same time
 help all the rahmaniacs out. He used to share a lot of pieces
   before, but
 he has stopped doing so in the past year or so for personal
reasons.

 So as a prank, I have decided to share one of the rare gems
from his
 library. I know he will be mad at me, but I can deal with that.
   It was
 difficult to decide what to share; BGMs, rare pieces or
   DVD-Quality songs.
 After thinking for a long time, I decided to share just one
song.
   One song
 can be taken as prank but more than one can get me in trouble.
  So, I
 thought about it and therefore, I'm sharing one High Quality
song.

 He has a lot of DVD-Quality songs, but this is definitely one of
   the rarest
 and the best of the best from his collection.. a real
treat for
 Rahmaniacs.

 He had posted one Roja song in DVD-Quality, for all you HQ
   enthusiasts,
 here is ultra high, DVD-Quality Chor Chor (Thiruda Thiruda)
song:

 I'm going to try my best to not offend Wasim, and try to
post this
   like
 kaissiom would.

 Please do me a favor, if you download the song and enjoy it
please
   make
 sure to thank kaissiom, not me.

 So, here's how kaissiom would do it, ready:

 *Hello Rahmaniacs,

 Here is a DVD-Quality Chor Chor song. I'm just doing a service
   for the
 group. Please don't support piracy, read the following
disclaimer
   before
 you download the song, thanks.

 You must read the following discalimer before downloading:

 By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you
 currently own the original copy, CD/Tape of the Song: Dil Hai
   Sanam Dil
 From: Chor Chor(Hindi). The content provided to you for
  downloading is
 strictly for backup purposes. I, Kaissiom, certify that I
own the
 original content and make duplicates for backup purposes
only. By
 downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the
 original content and want to protect it from possible damage.
  This is
 a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing
music, I'm
 only providing backups of the music you already own. I,
  Kaissiom

Re: [arr] Kaissiom's Stolen Treasure! Sorry !

[lalisingh20]

Rawat, What are you talking about?

I can't decide if you are being comical or sarcastic or I don't know.
 Since when did Rahman get a reputation of creating music only for
the sons and daughters of rich and powerful who have top end systems
that cost a king's ransom to buy.?

That is a pretty absurd statement and I've only seen it coming from
you.  All Rahman fans know what kind of layers and nuances Rahman adds
to his songs.  These minute details can be better heard on high-end
systems with good quality audio but that doesn't undermine the
over-all likability or the shelf-life of the song.  Quality of sound
has been a big plus in the West and is also expected in India as India
is progressing and people are being able to afford the next best thing.

Moving from cheap radio/transistor to a cassette player is a huge jump
in quality.. similarly moving from cassette player to a CD player is.
 And so is moving from 128kbps to 2400kbps.  We should be encouraging
people like wasim, AJ, Vithur and others who take great pains to rip
and upload these pieces. No wonder, kaissiom doesn't share anything
anymore because there are not enough people that appreciate high
quality music.  Just like Thiruda Thiruda was too early for it's
time... this high quality is too early for it's time... it will be
better appreciated in 10 years, maybe.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 7/29/2008 11:04 PM India Time, _lalisingh20_ wrote:
 
  Gomzy, what are you listening to it on?  Try listening to it on good
  headphones or sytem.  There is a huge difference, you will definitely
  appreciate it.  The bass is smooth and the highs are crystal clear.  I
  tried playing this version and right after playing the 128 mp3.  Big
  differnce!
 
 Good that you took all this troubles to listen to it and liked it 
 therefore, but millions and billions of people in India and all over
the 
 world don't understand it all and don't have infrastructure to
listen to 
 it at 128mp3, thus they wouldn't be able to appreciate it.
 
 That is one of the main reason that several of ARR's good compositions 
 fail to be likened by general public who still listen to cassettes, or 
 get to listen only of cheapo radios/ transistors.
 
 And, elderly people also fail to appreciate such finesse as age has 
 taken its toll on their hearing powers and they just can't make out
such 
 arrangements.
 
 That's when ARR gets a reputation that he creates music only for the 
 sons and daughters of rich and powerful who have top end systems that 
 cost a king's ransom to buy.
 
 -- 
 V

[arr] Re: Jodha Akbar BGMs Out?

[lalisingh20]

Hello Rahmaniacs,

Did I miss the link to the JA BGMs?  I only find one amazing BGM in
the link below.  Kaissiom or Vithur please re-post the link, or
someone pls share them again.

How do we have voiceless BGMs, is the DVD out? 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi guys,
 
 I've uploaded my favorite BGM in Jodhaa Akbar, when Akbar goes to Amer. 
 Coincidently it comes in seconds after the BGM Thulasi had uploaded. 
 That BGM had touched him, and this is the one that stood out for me. 
 It's 'Naghmein hi naghmein  hain' part from In Lamhoun Ke... played fast
 on sitar.
 
 Check it out:
 
 http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kaissiom
 http://briefcase.yahoo.com/kaissiom
 
 Regards,
 Wasim.

Re: [arr] Karaoke - O Hum Dum Saathiya(Pachchai Nirame) - a must have!

[lalisingh20]

Yes, we need more from Kaissiom. Where is Kaissiom?

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 this is 2 and half years, from 2005!
 
 :D
 
 jus kidding
 
 On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:20 AM, Bhargav Bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
hey can u plz upload again or send me the track...
 
  the links are expired
 
 
  On 12/27/05, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello fellow Rahmaniacs!!
 
  Thank God, I did not have much problem with these two.  The problem
  only arises when there is dialogue or additional sounds in the song
  and that was the case with Chalka chalka re.
 
  O hum dum is a little short but it's clean and Saathiya came out
to be
  really clean.
 
  Oh yeah, I'm US too - Los Angeles, California.
 
 
  http://www.megaupload.com/?d=WV9YK72W
 
  Enjoy!
 
 
  p.s. Thanks Vij, Amith, Manish and others who had responded to my
plea.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Magic.
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Re: [arr] Let's compare Pizza and Masala Dosa

[lalisingh20]

Very well said! I agree with you 100%

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, syed.sahel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, sure, let's go ahead an compare Cheese Pizza with Masala Dosa. 
 Which one is better?
 
 Different music, different eras, different style.  It's wrong to
 compare two artist.  Because art is an extension of self.  Therefore,
 by definition, every artist and their art pieces are going to be
 different.  Similarly they appeal to different audiences.  Why in the
 world do you think there are so many genres in music.  And then there
 is simple law of economics.  If it exists.. someone is making it,
 there is supply.  If there is supply, someone is wanting it, there is
 demand.  Supply cannot exist without demand, but marketers would
 disagree.. as it's their job to create the demand, whole another topic.
 
 If you go and tell a hardcore TuPac fan that Mozart is the greatest..
 would you think he/she'll agree? Most probably not, given that the
 person has even listened to Mozart.
 
 They say music is a universal language, but that is because of the
 property of music.  Vibrations created by various devices that travel
 through air reach our ears.  Sure, but the one thing we tend to ignore
 about that statement is the fact that it only applies to certain
 degree to instrumentals.  Once we add lyrics with a particular
 language to the music, it completely changes shape and becomes more
 demographic.  
 
 How many of us actively go out and listen to Mandrin, Indonesian,
 Portugese and Armenian music.  Who is your favorite Swahili composer?
 
 I'm sure there is a great, world class Swahili composer.  But since
 you don't know about him, would that belittle the composer. 
 Similarly, Swahili people may not know about Rahman. Does that make
 Rahman a bad composer?
 
 There are millions of Hindi speaking people in India who refuse to
 listen to Tamil or other regional language music.  If I don't
 understand it, I don't listen to it!  Are they all criminals?  No,
 people have their choices and preferences.  As long as there is demand
 for something, there will be supply.  You will notice obvious
 differences in the music and BGMs of Rahman's Hindi scores vs. his
 Tamil scores.  Why?  Different audiences!
 
 Once everyone decides they have had enough of Rahman... No More, and
 they completely stop listening to Rahman, produces won't go to Rahman,
 Rahman will have to lower his rate, even then they wont' go and
 eventually Rahman will stop composing commercial music.  Will that
 happen? I don't think so, it's a hypothetical scenario.
 
 Beetles have sold the most albums in the world.  Duh, it's in English,
 Engish also happens to be the most spoken language in the world.  Any
 co-incidence?  Plus they have been around for decades.. plus the
 western technology was superior and efficient in getting these albums
 out the mass.
 
 Are beetles better than Mozart? Oooh, tough one!  How about MJ, is he
 better than Beetles?  How about Yanni, is he better than MJ?
 
 Once Sonu Nigam asked this question to Naushad sahab, one of the great
 melodic kings of Hindi music, during one of the SaReGaMa episodes:
 
 Naushaad sahab, who do you think is best composer amongst the current
 crop of Hindi composers? (This was during late 90's)
 
 His Answer:  Who ever is giving hits!
 
 I think that sums it up pretty well, if you subscribe to that ideology.
 
 
 I have lot of discussions with Wasim(kaissiom), my cousin, about
 Rahman's music.  He's an absolute fan of Rahman.  But I divide it by
 language, when it comes to Indian music, it's gotta be Rahman. 
 American music; there are too many artists, but my favorites are
 Eminem, Robert Miles, ATB, TuPac and Square Pusher.
 
 
 So, what is better Pizza or Masala Dosa?
 
 I like them both, depending on my mood, not one is better than the
other.
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Mahesh maheshj_m@ wrote:
 
  Hey dont ever say that..
  
  Mozart is the Greatest in Musical History Rahman cant even come
 closer to him
  I too like rahman but @ any cost he cant compared with Mozart.Jus
 Listen to Mozart's 
  Magic and then say..Rahman jus using Synthesisers,mixing and
 Programming which is very easy compared to mozart who used pure Lively
 instruments violins,Piano.Do u think its easy to craft a symphony?
 Even Rahman dont like saying him as Mozart Of Asia...
  
  
  
  
  --- On Wed, 6/25/08, mohammed sajin mnsajin@ wrote:
  From: mohammed sajin mnsajin@
  Subject: [arr] Please dont call him as 'Mozart of Madras' or 'Mozart
 of Asia'
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 6:19 PM
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Please dont call him as 'Mozart of Madras' or 'Mozart of
 Asia'... .
  he has his own unique personailty. . . and talent
  ...
  According to me it is not a praising word ,it is a cursing
 word ... 
  is ARR has less talent than Mozart.. . . i never think
 

Re: [arr] Voiceless BGMs - we are spoiled

[lalisingh20]

Thanks to kaissiom and Aj, I think we are spoiled in this group with
wonderful voiceless BGMs.  Honestly, no offense to Vithur or anyone
who is putting in effort to rip BGMs, I only like the BGMs posted by
kaissiom now, since AJ is not posting for a long time.  Only because
of quality and the fact that they are truly voiceless.  

Although it is great to collect all the BGMs Vithur and others are
posting, they are not as enjoyable as the one kaissiom posts, because
they still have some voice in the background... which at least kills
my mood.  I want to be able to put the BGM CD in the stereo, just like
how I put in a music CD, and enjoy the music.  Sometime the ones with
the voice tells us exactly what is going on in the movie... so the
focus changes to the movie where I start visualizing it..not paying
much attention to the music, rather paying attention to the voice and
dialogues.  This is why I prefer only truly voiceless BGMs. 
Unfortunatley, kaissiom doesn't post all of his work.

Only if Vithur could start posting truly voiceless BGMs..it would be
dream come true. Or if kaissiom had never posted anything... we would
have appreciated vithur's efforts more greatly.  Now I'm unsatisfied
with vithur's efforts only because I know it could be better.  So,
forgive me if I'm hurting anyone's sentiments but the truth is we are
spoiled in this group to even have any BGM available to us in any
format.  But Rahman's music is such that we want more and more and the
best.

Do you guys agree?


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Balakrishnan,
 
 Initially, we have to rip the DVD to Mp3s first, and then remove the
voices
 using software like Goldwave or any other good software.
 
 The best Guide as far as BGms are concerned is Kaissiom. The way he
extracts
 BGMs is an experience altogether.
 
 On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Balakrishnan R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
I'm sorry if i'm asking the same question many of u have asked
and got
  answered before ... but what is the software u guys use to rip
  voiceless BGM ... I have the Sivaji Ayngaran DVD and would like to rip
  the BGM to share with all of u ..
 
  Balakrishnan
  
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 regards,
 Vithur
 
 Whatever God wants to give, no one can deny; Whatever God wants to
deny, no
 one can give. Be happy always

[arr] Kaissiom... is this you?

[lalisingh20]

Kaissiom, is this you? Not bad singing, didn't know you could sing too


http://www.midomi.com/index.php?action=main.profileusername=kaissiomta\
b=recordings#
http://www.midomi.com/index.php?action=main.profileusername=kaissiomt\
ab=recordings# 

Re: [arr] Voiceless BGMs - we are spoiled

[lalisingh20]

Obviously, I can't help it if you can't understand a simple point I
was trying to make, and instead you decided take it in a negative
direction.  Don't worry, no offense taken.  The other problem is
people are way too sentimental and sensitive on this group.  Any time
anyone criticizes... Oh no, the world falls apart..  be realistic
and objective, grow up people.

If someone makes a point, be objected and FIRST try to understand what
they are saying... then comment. I never claimed to be better than
anyone here.  I never claimed to know how to rip BGMs.  I'm not taking
anyone's side or putting anyone down here.  Vithur's or Kaissiom they
have both done a great job providing us with countless BGMs, it's
people like them who make this group lively.

My point was.. when you have two collections of Swades BGM.. 1)
completely voiceless (kaissiom) and 2) partially voiceless (vithur). 
Which one would you keep?

The point I was trying to make..AGAIN.. was just that I, and maybe
other people as well, prefer completely voiceless over partially
voiceless.  And then I stated that we are so spoiled because of that.
   we are so spoiled with completely voiceless BGM that we do not
fully appreciate partially voiceless BGMs.  Do I not like Vithur's
work or can I do better than him? NO.  I grab everything Vithur or
Kaissiom post on here.. but when I listen to partially voiceless
BGMs.. I wish they were completely voiceless.  Don't tell me you know
wish that either.  We are here's for Rahman's music, not to listen to
an incomplete dialogue from a movie.

Anyway, you tried to take this comment in a negative way, so I had to
clarify my point again.  Let's keep it at that.  

Let's see what the other two gentlemen (vithur and Kaissiom) have to
say about this.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Kumaresh-n [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dats a good 1 Gomzy
 
 
 2008/5/10 Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
I would appreciate if you could try your hand in ripping any one
BGM of
  any movie. And oh, no offense!
 
 
  On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 12:45 AM, lalisingh20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
Thanks to kaissiom and Aj, I think we are spoiled in this group
with
  wonderful voiceless BGMs. Honestly, no offense to Vithur or anyone
  who is putting in effort to rip BGMs, I only like the BGMs posted by
  kaissiom now, since AJ is not posting for a long time. Only because
  of quality and the fact that they are truly voiceless.
 
  Although it is great to collect all the BGMs Vithur and others are
  posting, they are not as enjoyable as the one kaissiom posts, because
  they still have some voice in the background... which at least kills
  my mood. I want to be able to put the BGM CD in the stereo, just like
  how I put in a music CD, and enjoy the music. Sometime the ones with
  the voice tells us exactly what is going on in the movie... so the
  focus changes to the movie where I start visualizing it..not paying
  much attention to the music, rather paying attention to the voice and
  dialogues. This is why I prefer only truly voiceless BGMs.
  Unfortunatley, kaissiom doesn't post all of his work.
 
  Only if Vithur could start posting truly voiceless BGMs..it would be
  dream come true. Or if kaissiom had never posted anything... we would
  have appreciated vithur's efforts more greatly. Now I'm unsatisfied
  with vithur's efforts only because I know it could be better. So,
  forgive me if I'm hurting anyone's sentiments but the truth is we are
  spoiled in this group to even have any BGM available to us in any
  format. But Rahman's music is such that we want more and more and the
  best.
 
  Do you guys agree?
 
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com,
  Vithur vithurm@ wrote:
  
   Balakrishnan,
  
   Initially, we have to rip the DVD to Mp3s first, and then
remove the
  voices
   using software like Goldwave or any other good software.
  
   The best Guide as far as BGms are concerned is Kaissiom. The way he
  extracts
   BGMs is an experience altogether.
  
   On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Balakrishnan R vij0988@ wrote:
  
I'm sorry if i'm asking the same question many of u have asked
  and got
answered before ... but what is the software u guys use to rip
voiceless BGM ... I have the Sivaji Ayngaran DVD and would
like to rip
the BGM to share with all of u ..
   
Balakrishnan
   
   
  
  
  
   --
   regards,
   Vithur
  
   Whatever God wants to give, no one can deny; Whatever God wants to
  deny, no
   one can give. Be happy always
  
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 All the good praise goes to the Almighty
 http://www.arrahman-online.com

Re: [arr] High Quality Jodha Akbar BGMs

[lalisingh20]

Agree! unfortunately, Wassim does not share all of his work, apart
from BGM - he also shared the amazing DVD songs like from Roja also. 
I know it's his hard work and effort,
he has the right to share it or not.  We are thankful for whatever we
get from him.  Eagerly waiting for Sivaji and JA bgms from Wassim.

I too don't understand how he got the sitar solo bgm from JA the first
week of theater release itself that too in amazing quality.  who
knows, may be he is already a sound engineer.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, just me! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i agree toP wassim shld join ar!. and i hope he can release  clean
voicelss bgms of JA  soon,
 
 Dinesh Vaidya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thulsi Ram, 
  
  I also agree with your observation. Thanks to Vithur and his friend
  Nishant for taking efforts in release of the tracks. However did you
  also check the earlier messages in which Wassim ( Kaissom ) had
  released a solo Sitar piece from this movie ? 
  
  It is still a mystery as to how Wassim extracted / recorded and
  mastered the piece because sound quality wise that piece is simply
  outstanding 
  
  I do not know what career Wassim is going to pursue, but if ever he
  ventures into sound engineering, he will rule this field
  
  Best regards
  Dinesh Vaidya
  Pune
  
  --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karokelip@ wrote:
  
   Vithur.. thanks for the link.. i downloaded the BGMs and gave them a
  try. i
   think we still have to wait for perfect voiceless OST for Jodha
  Akbar..
   btw, the website rahmanzone.com is cool. news on Indian ocean was
new to
   me.. but dont know how authentic it is
   
   On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 7:06 AM, Vithur vithurm@ wrote:
   
  Rahmaniacs,
   
Jodha Akbar Exclusive BGM Tracks
Quality - High
Ripped From - DVD
   
DVDs still not released in India ( DVD available in UK, would be
  priced in
India for Rs 499 /-)
   
   
   
 
http://www.4shared.com/file/43130843/9bd2fa61/Jodha_Akbar_BGM_Score__Nishant_Garg__-_wwwRahmanZonecom.html
   
Courtesy :- Nishant Garg ( orkut member )
   
Also, have a look at his website
   
Website URL - www.rahmanzone.com
Owner - Nishant Garg
Email - rahmanzone@
 ( all rare stuff and many more Hindi stuff can be downloaded from
  there )
   
  
  
  

 

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Re: [arr] You know you are a Rahman fan when...

[lalisingh20]

HAHAHAHA,  Ekyam Satyam and analysis of a new album, and Illayaraja
is absolutely hillarious and true. 100% agree with everything.  I
didn't share with anyone about waking up with rahman's music in my head. 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vithur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Kaissiom
 
 I read your attachment till the end. The write up is just awesome,
and just
 speaks all my feelings too. Great Bosss.. Excellent. I will treasure
this.
 But unfortunately, I amnot able to find the Mp3 hidden in it.
 
 Coudl you help me with that
 
 Thanks
 
 
 On 1/12/08, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hi guys,
 
  The other day, someone accused me of being a  ..typical Rahman fan!
  And my response was Really? In that case, I stand guilty?
 
  I then thought about it and wondered what is a typical Rahman fan?
 
  What is it that gets us all together here on this group...
regardless of
  race, religion, gender, age, language, geographical locations ?
 
  Here's my best attempt at defining a typical Rahman fan... of
course,
  it's subjective but let me know if you guys agree with any of it.
 These are
  my personal opinions and are meant no offense to anyone.
 
  http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom/lst?.dir=/AR+Rahman.view=l
 
 
 
  p.s.  For anyone who is interested in Windows tricks... you can
download
  the  Word document and try to find a hidden .mp3 in the document.
 
  Regards,
  Wasim.
 
  
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 regards,
 Vithur
 
 A.R.RAHMAN -  THE ABODE OF DIVINE MUSIC

Re: [arr] BGM Trivia.

[lalisingh20]

That's a lovely BGM, I think it is from Alaipayuthey/Saathiya.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have enabled a BGM in the 'Rare' folder.  Please identify the movie,
 and I will upload an extended version of this BGM (which easily gives
 the movie away). 
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pradeepan R
 pradeepanisonline@ wrote:
 
  Please enable public access until 2007 !!!
  Pls  Thanks.
  
  On Dec 11, 2007 6:16 AM, neena kochhar keyhaalhai@ wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
  
   but it is now disabled!
  
  
   kaissiom kaissiom@ wrote:
  
  
   Hi All,
  
   I'm always humbled by the encouragement and support I have
 received from the
   group members over time.  Below, is another one of those I
 received form
   Lali Singh this morning, reminding me of my 'briefcase' share link:
   http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kaissiom
  
   As a community service/announcement:  I would like to let you know
 that I'm
   going to mark my briefcase private soon.  Therefore, help yourself
 to any
   gems that may be missing from your library.  Although, I would
 like to add
   that there's not much in the briefcase, it's some of my older
 extracts.  But
   like they say... One person's trash is another person's treasure.
  
   Speaking of trash, imagine all the music Rahman must have trashed,
 thinking
   it is not good enough, being the perfectionist he is.  Wow,
but also
   knowing that Rahman is smart, I would imagine he is storing his
trash
   somewhere 'safe'.  Anyways, just a food for thought :)
  
   Regards,
   Wasim.
  
   --- kaissiom@ wrote:
  
Wow, Lali Singhji, I had completely forgotten about
that link.  Thanks for bringing old memories back.
And it is also a reminder for me to mark those
folders 'private'. I'm glad I'm of any service to
the fan community.  You should really thank the
music of Rahman and the likes of Gops and Vijay and
other who have brought us fans together.
   
And for Rahman's birthday, I wasn't planning on
doing anything, but I might just do as you suggest,
we'll see.
   
Thanks,
Wasim.
   
  
  
Singh Lali lalisingh20@ wrote:
  
Hi Wasim bhai,
   
Where are you these days?  Haven't seen any new BGMs
from you?  I've been a great fan of your work you
have
provided us with great bgm masterpieces from our
boss.
 Thanks a million for that.  Although I have almost
all the things you have provided, I really from the
bottom of my heart thank you for Roja dvd quality
song.  I finally gotto listen to it on bose and wow
man thanks to you and Rahman I was able to listen to
my favorite in pure bliss. I know you have stopped
sharing but please just share one more song with me
-
ANY CHOR CHOR song!!! please.
   
Anyways the reason I contacted you is because I was
cleaning up my computer and found some old shared
links form fangroup.  I have your breifcase link
also,
I must have never checked the link... I found a lost
treasure so to say, I downloaded all them... thanks
for the share man.
   
Please post a bgm or dvd quality song for Rahman's
b'day.
   
best Regards.
  
  

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 to you !
 

[arr] Re: Query about ATM and Sivaji(Hindi)

[lalisingh20]

Very well said, Wasim about the expectations. I agree with you.

I also hope they have good lyrics for hindi and think it's ujjaiynee only.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I had a couple of questions, please chime in if anybody knows.
 
 1. Re: ATM - Couple of songs have been credited to Ujjaini.  Is this
 the same Ujjaini from Saregampa Challenge 2005?  Because, if it is
 then it's great to know that Rahman is tapping in the talent emerging
 from these competitions.  I would love to see Rahman give opportunity
 to Mauli, Sumedha or Amanat from SRGMP C2007.
 
 2. Re: Sivaji(Hindi) - Does anybody know who is doing the lyrics in
 Hindi?  I seriously hope they rope in Javed Akthar sahab or Prasoon
 Joshi for lyrics.  A lot of dubbed albums have suffered the fate of
 bad lyrics when translated.
 
 p.s. I have been hooked on ATM.  The album keeps growing on me, all
 songs hold their own.  Whoever has done the Remix of Ponmagal, has
 done a great job.  But the tortoise of the album, which has slowly and
 steadily won the race of winning my heart is Kelamal Kaiyile.  I
 didn't like this song in the beginning, I thought it was average, but
 wow, it was just my brain trying to understand what is going on in
 that song.  It has some serious experimentation - with tamil song and
 subtle techo/trans beats.  Only Rahman can think, create and deliver
 something like that.  
 
 People talk about expectations from Rahman albums, having too high
 expectations etc.. Honestly I do not have any expectations of Rahman.
  I'm a devotee of Rahman, and take whatever he has to offer, as a
boon.  
 
 All that is good and successful comes from God, all that is bad and
 failure is because of myself - Rahman himself (I can't remember the
 exact phrase but it was to the same effect.)
 
 Always,
 Proud to be a Rahmaniac.

[arr] Re: Dil se re - Winning; Poll closing July 6th.

[lalisingh20]

Thanks you for posting this.  It is very hard to choose between Dilse
and Pachai Nirame.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello Rahmaniacs,
 
 Here's the results of the poll so far.
 
 1. Dil Se - Dil Se Re - #1 with 23% of the votes.
 2. Boys - Girlfriend and Alai Payuthey - Pachai Nirame tied with 17%
 3. Roja - Yeh Haseen Vadiyan - with 8%
 
 I will be closing the poll on July 6th.  Make your vote count.
 
 Only 47 people have voted so far, but it looks like Dil Se is the most
 favorite of the Fans of Rahman?
 
 Regards,
 Wasim.
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kaissiom kaissiom@ wrote:
 
  Hello Rahmaniacs!!
  
  Well, I knew what I was getting myself into.  So, I'm not surprised. 
  I know it is like a tease to let you listen to only one, one of my
  favorite, song in high quality and not to expect to hear from so many
  of you.
  
  Due to an overwhelming response from so many of you requesting just
  ONE additional song(favorite)in high quality, I've created a poll.
  
  http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/surveys?id=2518276
  
  Please go and vote for your favorite song.  Song with the highest vote
  will be presented in Highest Quality.  Again, this will definitely be
  the last time.  So, I hope you find you song on the list and hope that
  others will concur with you.  I know it's not fair, they are all my
  favorite songs, but there are 25 of them, you are bound to find at
  least one.  May be not your most favorite, but close.  
  
  Good luck voting, it's never easy to pick just ONE Rahman song.  But
  good luck, be true to yourself.  This could be an ultimate test for a
  fan, or torture I should say.
  
  P.S.: I have not decided when I will be closing the poll, but I'm sure
  sooner than later we will have at least 2 to 3 clear winners.  So,
  may be in a week, I will close the poll, and you will have the Winner.
  
  Regards,
  Wasim.
 

[arr] Please please please...

[lalisingh20]

Is it possible to share more songs, especially the classics?

The quality of the newer albums after 2000 is good anyway, I don't
think there will much improvement to tracks like Boys.  But the old
ones I have on casette tape, there's no way of even getting them in
Cd, and the quality keeps on wearing everytime we listen toit. so
please if have any tamil, hindi, whatever song you have from the
albums of 90's.  Please share.  C'mon guys, does anyone else want more
of this?

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, neena kochhar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Wasim
   Excellent quality.  I haven't stoppd listening to it since
yesterday . Thank you so much.
   Rgds.
   Neena
   
 lalisingh20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Crystal clear sound, it's a treasure. It is just amazing,
fortunate
 to listen to Roja in this quality coz it's 13 years old. I could hear
 everything clearly. Thanks a million kaissiom. Please share more
 songs like this with us or send me a CD, I'm willing to pay. or
 please show how you get this quality.
 
 we should have a vote on a popular song and have kaissiom upload just
 one more song with this quality. we have heard a slow, few intruments
 song, we want one that is fast and alot of instuments, may be humma.
 
 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jai Kothari jai15kothari@ wrote:
 
  hey wasimi downloaded the songi find a huge difference in
 the two songs i comparedi find the accoustics nd the hormonics of
 the songs changedespecially whn the vocals of rahman
 startsthrs a huge difference...looking forward to get more songs
 from u
  
  kaissiom kaissiom@ wrote: Hello Rahmaniacs,
  
  I've posted the song online. Please provide feedback, share the
  experience, and let me know if you agree with me on the quality.
  
  I can not explain in words.. the experience of listening to certain
  songs in this quality, the most notable experience of euphoria
  occurred while listening to the following songs: 
  
  - Mustafa Mustafa (I had never heard the bass like that)
  - Urvashi Urvahsi
  - Humma Humma
  - Dil hai sanam (Chor Chor)
  
  Tip: Your computer or ipod may not be best equipped to listen to this
  format. If that is the case, I highly recommend burning the song onto
  a CD and listening to it on a high end system. 
  
  Some technical details to keep in mind:
  - Volume levels on this audio is lower than most other formats, due to
  the averaging logic, I don't want to get into details.
  
  - High quality means already high levels of treble and bass. If you
  have an amp, set it to modest settings. I don't want to get blamed,
  if you blow up your speakers :)
  
  Please read before downloading:
  
  By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you
  currently own the original copy, CD/Tape of the Song: Chhoti Si Aasha
  From: Roja(Hindi). The content provided to you for downloading is
  strictly for backup purposes. I, Kaissiom, certify that I own the
  original content and make duplicates for backup purposes only. By
  downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the
  original content and want to protect it from possible damage. This is
  a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm
  only providing backups of the music you already own. I, Kaissiom, will
  not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. If you
  sell, trade, or forfeit your ownership of your original software, you
  agree to destroy the CDR or any digital backups of that title. You
  take full responsibility for your own actions when using these
  back-ups and release Kaissiom from all liabilities, which may arise -
  expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are
  complying with these regulations. This allows me (Kaissiom) to
  duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my
  backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective
  third parties.
  
  Link:
  
 

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/177835/Chhoti-Si-Aasha-Highest-Quality--zip.html
  
  Enjoy!
  
  Regards,
  Wasim.
  
  
  
  
  
  
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[arr] Unbelievable, truly WOW.... DVD Quality: Roja song uploaded!!

[lalisingh20]

Crystal clear sound, it's a treasure.  It is just amazing, fortunate
to listen to Roja in this quality coz it's 13 years old.  I could hear
everything clearly.  Thanks a million kaissiom.  Please share more
songs like this with us or send me a CD, I'm willing to pay.  or
please show how you get this quality.

we should have a vote on a popular song and have kaissiom upload just
one more song with this quality.  we have heard a slow, few intruments
song, we want one that is fast and alot of instuments, may be humma.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Jai Kothari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hey wasimi downloaded the songi find a huge difference in
the two songs i comparedi find the accoustics nd the hormonics of
the songs changedespecially whn the vocals of rahman
startsthrs a huge difference...looking forward to get more songs
from u
 
 kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hello Rahmaniacs,
 
 I've posted the song online. Please provide feedback, share the
 experience, and let me know if you agree with me on the quality.
 
 I can not explain in words.. the experience of listening to certain
 songs in this quality, the most notable experience of euphoria
 occurred while listening to the following songs: 
 
 - Mustafa Mustafa (I had never heard the bass like that)
 - Urvashi Urvahsi
 - Humma Humma
 - Dil hai sanam (Chor Chor)
 
 Tip: Your computer or ipod may not be best equipped to listen to this
 format. If that is the case, I highly recommend burning the song onto
 a CD and listening to it on a high end system. 
 
 Some technical details to keep in mind:
 - Volume levels on this audio is lower than most other formats, due to
 the averaging logic, I don't want to get into details.
 
 - High quality means already high levels of treble and bass. If you
 have an amp, set it to modest settings. I don't want to get blamed,
 if you blow up your speakers :)
 
 Please read before downloading:
 
 By clicking on the following link you are certifying that you
 currently own the original copy, CD/Tape of the Song: Chhoti Si Aasha
 From: Roja(Hindi). The content provided to you for downloading is
 strictly for backup purposes. I, Kaissiom, certify that I own the
 original content and make duplicates for backup purposes only. By
 downloading the content, you certify that you currently own the
 original content and want to protect it from possible damage. This is
 a free service, I'm not selling you music or distributing music, I'm
 only providing backups of the music you already own. I, Kaissiom, will
 not be held accountable for the downloader's use of my backups. If you
 sell, trade, or forfeit your ownership of your original software, you
 agree to destroy the CDR or any digital backups of that title. You
 take full responsibility for your own actions when using these
 back-ups and release Kaissiom from all liabilities, which may arise -
 expressed, written, or implied. By downloading the content, you are
 complying with these regulations. This allows me (Kaissiom) to
 duplicate, and you (a consumer) to receive the right to use my
 backups. All trademarks and copyrights are owned by the respective
 third parties.
 
 Link:
 

http://www.sharebigfile.com/file/177835/Chhoti-Si-Aasha-Highest-Quality--zip.html
 
 Enjoy!
 
 Regards,
 Wasim.
 
 
 
  
 

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Re: [arr] DVD-Audio: anyone interested?

[lalisingh20]

Hi Kaissiom,

Very good write up, I never thought of it that way.  We really miss
your BGMs and medley.  One thing we know is that you never let us down
in the quality department.  Cant' wait until you share this song, what
song are you going to share?  Please let us know. ARR rocks!


--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Wasim...
 
 You really rock man.. i am interested in the HQ DVD audio... pls
share it with me... cant wait for it!! 
 
 Aravind
 
 kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Hello Rahmaniacs,
  
  It was a couple of years back that I accidentally or unintentionally
  came across a method of fetching *voiceless* BGMs.  And
  co-incidentally, at around the same time our dear friend AJ (where are
  you AJ?)  also discovered another way of doing the same thing.  It was
  music to the ears and treat for the fans.  We've come a long way
  since, many other wonderful people in the group have joined the BGM
  frenzy since.  I admit, I have become selfish enough to keep the newer
  BGMs to myself for quite some time now, but there are multiple reasons
  for that, which could be the subject of a whole another topic.  But
  this time around, it's another breakthrough, DVD-Quality music.
  
  In my personal opinion, in this i-pod age, there are 3 types of
  music listeners in general:
  A) People that are size conscious (due to the limitations of the
  hard-drive on their i-pod/computer)
  
  B) People that are quality conscious (want the best quality regardless
  of size)
  
  C) People that are neither type-A nor type-B and basically have no
  preference and could care less about the technical details.
  
  Well, I happen to be a hardcore type-B person.  And if you happen to
  be type-B, carry on reading, and if you are not type-B, but still
  interested, you are also welcome.
  
  I could care less about the size on my hard-drive, as long as I can
  grab hold of the highest quality Rahman music out there.  It is a
  pretty straight forward logic, as the size of the song goes down, the
  quality goes down.  Although, the 5 MB, 128 kpbs song sounds great and
  you can't tell the difference on your ipod, the difference becomes
  quite noticeable on a hi-fi system or when playing the music on loud
  volume.  I personally store Rahman's music at the highest quality on
  my computer or my ipod (I actually don't like ipods, I have a
  Creative Zen M, if you want quality, I would recommend Creative).  The
  huge file sizes do reduce the number of songs I can have, but going
  with a bigger HD takes care of that problem.
  
  So, in my pursuit of high quality Rahman music, I had yet another
  breakthrough… DVD-Quality music.  I have been quietly, one at a time,
  ripping DVD music of all of my Rahman DVDs.  Let's not forget that we
  already have the highest-quality audio available in the market for
  these movies in form of original Audio CDs.  But the DVD audio I'm
  ripping is unarguably superior.  I now have 3 x  each of Rahman's
  songs.  1) in highest quality mp3 format, 2) in Audio CD format, 3) in
  DVD music format.  Yes, call me a Rah-maniac, when I said I'm a
  hardcore type-B person, I meant it.
  
  Just based on simple logic of relation between file size and quality
  here's how they stack up: Example, Chotti si Aasha from Roja, run
  time: Approximately 5 minutes.
  
  1) Highest quality mp3 format, 320 kbps:
  File Size(approx.): 11.3 MB
  
  2) Audio CD, wav format:
  File Size(approx.): 48.3 MB
  
  3) DVD-Quality audio, wma format:
  File Size(approx.): 81.2 MB
  
  Well, does it really make a difference?  You have to listen to it to
  believe it.  You can hear all the minute details and all instruments
  in back quite clearly.  The highs are sharper and the basses are
  lower.  I mean I could talk all about it, but unless you hear it, you
  won't know.
  
  Well, assuming that we are all Rahman fans on this group, and assuming
  that all of the fans should at least have Roja in their collection,
  I'm hesitantly willing to sharing ONE song from Roja in DVD quality.  
  Why you may ask?  Because I would hate to keep the gem to myself.  It
  is an experience every fan should experience.  I can not describe it
  in words...the joy of listening to Roja, Chor Chor, Bombay, Sapnay,
  Duet, etc. in DVD Quality music.  
  
  What triggered my quest for this High-quality sound was that one post
  on this group, where someone posted a Thiruda Thiruda song and claimed
  it was DVD audio.  I got excited, downloaded it, listened to it and I
  could swear it can not be DVD quality audio, because the sound on the
  Audio CD was definitely better.  That was it! I decided to find out
  what DVD quality audio would really sound like.  I'm actually very
  happy with my discovery, although it means more hard-drive space.  But
  I know sooner or later someone in this group will post more of these,
  just like the BGMs.  
  
  The other beauty 

Re: [arr] Is it me or that snare too loud?

[lalisingh20]

Oh, that's what it's called- SNARE.  Yes, I agree with you although I
didn't analyze the song the way you did.  I had to go listen to it the
way you described it to find out what you are talking about.  Good
observation, it does feel like someone is hammering on my head, during
some portions of the song or I should say snaring on my head.  Thanks.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tere Bina is divine..
 
 On 4/28/07, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
Hello Rahmaniacs,
 
  I was listening to Guru again, just like every other day. I know, I
  know, most people have moved on to Sivaji. I still have the hangover
  from Guru as I'm trying to absorb Sivaji. Wow, every song in Sivaji
  is so unique and like always slow poison. Well, going back to Guru,
  Tere Bina in particular.
 
  It's definitely one of the best ARR songs, plus him singing it puts it
  in another league completely. But if there is one thing I wish was
  different about the song is the snare beat. Although the use of snare
  itself is great, I find the pitch and volume of the snare a bit out
  of place. I'm not critisizing Rahman, because as a fan I have come to
  realize many a times that some of the unusual sounds in his songs
  are intentional. Only the master knows his work and all we could do
  is try to understand it. So, whether the snare bit there is
  intentional? I don't know. May be it was Rahman's decision, may be it
  was the work of the sound engineers. I'll never know. But I do know
  that I would have appreciated the song a tab bit more, if the snare
  hadn't been that loud.
 
  The song itself has a very hindustani/sufi elements to it, as it is
  inspired by Sajna tera bina by NFAK. The singing and instruments
  for the most part are also along the same lines, if there is one thing
  different about the mood of the song is the snare beat. The snare
  sounds like it is out of a pop/rock/english song. Again, that is
  intentional, I'm not surprised by that, it is Rahman after all, and in
  fact I feel it's great fusion. But I can't ignore the sharpness and
  volume of the snare that it sometimes sounds like some kind of timer
  ticking. And its volume level varies throughout the song. I feel as
  if it was added on top of the song after the whole song was done.
 
  It sounds great when it starts at 00:20
  All of a sudden there's a sharpness/volume increase at 00:39
  It goes through minor changes in between and gets completely dropped
  at 02:06 - The song sounds great without it.
  It re-enters at a moderate level again at 02:47
  It is well-blended with the background beat between 03:00 and 03:58
  Then you can hear it in varying degrees until the song ends.
 
  I'm not sure about anyone else, but I've had to turn the volume down
  during certain parts of the song due to the snare. I know what you
  are thinking, What is he doing complaining about the little things?
 
  Well, I'm a Rahman fan, and by definition it means that I do pay
  attention to and care about minute details in Rahman's songs.
 
  But another thing I know about myself is that I have very sensitive
  ears, I sometimes pick up sounds that most people in the room do not.
  And that could just be a contributing factor to the whole situation.
  So I was just wondering if anyone else felt the same way about the
  snare being loud or is it just me after all?
 
  Regards,
  Wasim.
 
   
 

[arr] I need Rahman's vocals - please help!!!

[lalisingh20]

Friends,

I'm desparately looking for Rahman's vocals, with no music.  For songs
like Yeh jo des hai, Luka chupi, Anbe ayuire, dilse re, etc.

Some of the above appear in kaissiom's medley towards the end.  I was
wondering how and where did he get them. I contacted him but no
response. Did someone post them on the group and maybe I missed them.

If anybody has them please upload them or let me know where I can get
them.  I want to listen to boss in complete silence minus any
instruments.  Is that even possible to do on a CD or maybe a DVD?

Please help..
thanks.

Re: [arr] I need Rahman's vocals - please help!!!

[lalisingh20]

It is not impossible.  guys have you heard kaissiom's medley, towards
the end, he has used just the vocals of three different songs sung by
Rahman, and they are very clear and good quality and complete
paragraphs, you don't hear any instruments at all, you don't even hear
the original beat.  You can clearly hear Aaa Aah, Yeh jo des hai and
even Luka Chuppi, just Rahman's vocals with some loop in the
background.  For example in luka chupi, the part kaissiom has used, in
the original there is some heavy tabla playing but there is no trace
of tablas in the medley, not even a faint noise.  Kaissiom has these
and I just want to know where to find these. If you guys have it then
please share.  And kaissiom if you are reading, please share with us
where and how you acquired these vocals.  Help a diehard Rahman fan.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shahi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hi folks
 
   its possible to get the vocal part alone by using some
 filters(midrange) and also the c channel of  5.1 discs will give more
 emphasis to vocals than musicagain ther will b some
musiceven i have
 got small samples wher in we can just hear arr vocals only but thats
 some small clippings and clarity is not gud...i believe some one
close to
 arr can get u thati dont think that will violate any copyright
 rules...if it does then forget it..  :)
 
 shahi
 
 
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: Shwetha Signs [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Feb 23, 2007 6:49 PM
 Subject: Re: [arr] I need Rahman's vocals - please help!!!
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 
 
 looking for ^Rahman's vocals, with no music^  impossible. then u
need 2
 have rahman's audio interviews :-)
 
 
 *lalisingh20 [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
 
  Friends,
 
 I'm desparately looking for Rahman's vocals, with no music. For songs
 like Yeh jo des hai, Luka chupi, Anbe ayuire, dilse re, etc.
 
 Some of the above appear in kaissiom's medley towards the end. I was
 wondering how and where did he get them. I contacted him but no
 response. Did someone post them on the group and maybe I missed them.
 
 If anybody has them please upload them or let me know where I can get
 them. I want to listen to boss in complete silence minus any
 instruments. Is that even possible to do on a CD or maybe a DVD?
 
 Please help..
 thanks.
 
 
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[arr] kaissiom - Thanks a zillion to you!! - he deserves a round of applause people!!-

[lalisingh20]

One of the reasons i'm a regular visitor to the group is kaissiom and
other perople who keep adding extras to group.  of course, i visit the
group everyday to find out the latest about Rahman, but also the
second thought in my mind is maybe kaissiom or someone posted
something today... it's always exciting to see kaissiom post
something...because it is always special.  Although i'm a regular
visitor, i was not a member of the group, i
just joined the group to thank you kaissiom.  i noticed you put such a
wonderful thing on the group and not a lot of replies, thanking you or
anything.  so I thought I should thank you. you are doing a great job,
please post more things, i just
love everything you post.  this mix is the best so far. how do you do
it?  other peopl post mixes which are good too, but i notice that your
mixed have a different quality to it, in music, i notice you don't
really add anything new.  U use all Rahman stuff, that is what makes
it even amazing.  Some of the songs you blended in the medley were
just awsome.  although most of the transitions in the medley were just
amazing.. i found some that were more than amazing... the transition
are so seamless that they sound original.

how did you get all those vocals of Rahman, do have a library of
those.. please share with us also.

-main vari vari transition - your timing was just great, the bass
sounds like it was in the original song.. good mix

-sapnay-swades-taal transition - perfect buildup of music

-Ayo re(swades)- Ayo(RDB)mix - simply mindblowing... how did u think
of that?

-most of hindusti-hindusti classical mapping is just superb.

-over 120 bits.. wow... tremendous effrot.. searching.. finding...
mapping.. editing.. everything... just brilliance.

It's amazing to know there are some very talented people on this
group... kaissiom, u used to post many things before but you have
slowed down recently... please post anything havee... small or big.

kaissiom and others  hats off to you guys, you guys add a lot more to
the group, you guys are the reason people keep coming back to this
group... keep doing the good job.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, kaissiom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I had received some queries about the music bits used in the medley. 
 If you knew all the music bits, kudos to you.  And for the rest of us,
 here's the complete list.  Hope it cures... I know it, I know it, I
 have it on tip of my tongue, damn it, could you please tell me what
 song it is from xx:xx to xx:xx, my mind is going crazy!
 
 1.1947 Earth - Raat ki daldal
 2.Bombay - Ek ho gaye hum aur tum
 3.Bose - Durga pooja
 4.Chor chor - Theme
 5.Daud - Theme
 6.Dil hi dil mein - Chand aya hai
 7.Dil se - Chaiya chaiya
 8.Dilne jise apna kaha - Zindagi hai dua
 9.Doli saja ke rakhna - Taram pum
 10.Duniya dilwalon ki - Mustafa mustafa
 11.Hindustani - Maya machinda
 12.Humse hai muqabala - Muqabala muqabala
 13.Jeans - Tauba tauba
 14.Kabhi na kabhi - Mere yaara dildara
 15.Khel khiladi ka - Dil se dil zara
 16.Kisna - My dream comes true
 17.Lagaan - O rey chori
 18.Lakeer - Offo jalta hai
 19.Love birds - Samba samba
 20.Love you hamesha - Gup chup batein
 21.Mangal Pandey - Main vari vari
 22.Meenaxi - Dhuan dhuan
 23.Mr.Romeo - Pas aaja balam
 24.Nayak - Rukhi sukhi roti
 25.One 2 ka 4 - I'm sorry
 26.Priyanka - Koi yahan roopmati
 27.Pukar - Sunta hai mera khuda
 28.Rangeela - Tanha tanha
 29.Roja - Yeh haseen vadiyan
 30.Saathiya - Saathiya
 31.Sapnay - Ek bagiya mein
 32.Swades - Yuhi chala chal
 33.Taal - Ishq bina (sad)
 34.Tehzeeb - Na shiqwa hota
 35.Thakshak - Boondon se batein
 36.The legend of Bhagat Singh - Sarfaroshi ki tammana
 37.Tu hi mera dil - Tu hi mera dil
 38.Muthu maharaja - Koi samjhade
 39.Vishwavidhata - Jaan tum ho
 40.Yuva - Kabhi neem neem
 41.Zubeidaa - Mehendi hai rachnewali
 42.Rang de basanti - Rang de basanti
 43.DilNe Jise Apna Kaha - Zindagi hai dua
 44.Dil Hi Dil Mein - Swargayi Swargayi
 45.Silluno Oru Kadhal - Kummi Adi
 46.Gentleman - Ottagatha Katti
 47.Alaipayuthey - Yaro Yarodi
 48.Roja - Chinna asai
 49.Hum Se Hai Muqabala - Premika ne pyar
 50.Love Birds - Come on Come on
 51.Lagaan - Mitwa
 52.Hindustani - Pyare panchi
 53.Aa Aah - Thigu thigu
 54.Kadhal Keithu Sei - Anarkali
 55.Thenali - Alangatti
 56.Yodha - Kulu kulu
 57.Muthu - Thillana thillana
 58.Dil Hi dil Mein - Chand aya hai
 59.Doli Sajake Rakhna - Chal kheva re
 60.Rageela - Rangeela re
 61.Thakshak - Dheem ta da
 62.Choreography - Raga Dance
 63.Parasuram - Muppada nimidham
 64.Lagaan - Radha kaise na jale
 65.Godfather - Illamai
 66.Doli Sajake Rakhna - Bol sajni
 67.Airtel - Airtel Ad
 68.Swades - Dhoti (BGM)
 69.Aa Aah - Thigu thigu
 70.En Suvasakkartrae - Chinna chinna mazhai
 71.Love Birds - No Problem
 72.Swades - Ayo re (BGM)
 73.Rang De Basanti - Ayo (BGM)
 74.Tehzeeb - Habibi (BGM)
 75.Daud - Bhavre
 76.Kandukondein Kandukondein - Kanamoochi
 77.Thenali - Thenali
 78.Gentleman - Chic buck chic buck
 79.Khel Khiladi Ka - Chumma de