[arr] Re: [Non - ARR] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? (last one)
that immediately strikes my mind is kannodu kanbedhellam.. the melam percussion was handled in a serene way and it added so much beauty to the song.. there is only one reason for that: it is ARRs magic! On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:25 PM, arr_raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: Illaya Raja must have used every possible version of guitar. arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Prasad Varma svspvarma@ wrote: I am afraid not. I think RDB first used it way back in 1970 in the song Gulabi Ankhen from The Train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4e3hQDsEJQ RDB had a trademark sound characterized by a unique rhythm and the bass guitar in the back ground which made most of his songs instantly recognizable. dont have th Here's another example from Yeh Vaada Raha which came out in the early 80s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svsh7ayHRak. Of course I also love the way ARR weaves the bass guitar around his melodies sometimes building the entire song around the bass loop itself. Perfect example - The title song from Dil Se: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qbbXBnVTuw - Original Message From: Chord purevibz@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56:25 AM Subject: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp
[arr] Re:[Non - ARR] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svsh7ayHRak. Of course I also love the way ARR weaves the bass guitar around his melodies sometimes building the entire song around the bass loop itself. Perfect example - The title song from Dil Se: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qbbXBnVTuw - Original Message From: Chord purevibz@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56:25 AM Subject: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} -- __ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ - Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here
[arr] Re: [Non - ARR] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Is the starting part of ithu oru ponmalai pozhuthu a gud example of IR's guitar? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, arr_raghu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thulasi Ram, I agree that ARR is pioneer is projecting professional value of any instrument.. not just guitar. Regarding that question, neither do I have any examples of IR using bass... but the idea came to my mind for the reasons that IR is a guitar expert by himself and uses guitar extensively in his compositions whenever it is possible. I was only gussing, didnt confirm. Just occured to me that how can the guitar gold medalist compose 700+ films without using bass. If we talk about ARR's Vellaipookkal, kamosh raath, jumbalika, likku chuppi , n-y-nagaram, roobaroo standout for guitar not just bass. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karokelip@ wrote: Raghu! din expect this from u!!! any examples of that MD using an electric guitar??? i've hardly heard his songs have any traces of guitar.. and it is really surprising to hear that he used every possible version of guitar.. oops!~! i dont know abt RDB but i think that one should agree that ARR uses ever version of guitar or any other instrument in the best possible way it could be handled.. ARR handles the sound even from a dolak in a more professional manner.. that's his amazing musical trait.. the song that immediately strikes my mind is kannodu kanbedhellam.. the melam percussion was handled in a serene way and it added so much beauty to the song.. there is only one reason for that: it is ARRs magic! On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:25 PM, arr_raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: Illaya Raja must have used every possible version of guitar. arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Prasad Varma svspvarma@ wrote: I am afraid not. I think RDB first used it way back in 1970 in the song Gulabi Ankhen from The Train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4e3hQDsEJQ RDB had a trademark sound characterized by a unique rhythm and the bass guitar in the back ground which made most of his songs instantly recognizable. dont have th Here's another example from Yeh Vaada Raha which came out in the early 80s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svsh7ayHRak. Of course I also love the way ARR weaves the bass guitar around his melodies sometimes building the entire song around the bass loop itself. Perfect example - The title song from Dil Se: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qbbXBnVTuw - Original Message From: Chord purevibz@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56:25 AM Subject: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Speaking of R.D. Burman on guitars or Mohd. Rafi, Mukesh etc. why none of their children or anyone from their families shone to success in this vast music field ? or anyone from them ? Regards Pavan Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vari Vari from Mangal Pandey anyone? On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM, rayrai2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct me if I am wrong Ni Mein Samajh gayi Bass appears programmed on a synthesizer. Chaiyyan Chaiyyan was a song where the guitar (Bass Lead)dominates and creates a rock kind of environment. This was an exceptional master piece including the song itself which no other music directors have been successful with such experiments. If another bass guitar work claims its the Noor Un ala song where the beginning Noor Noor Noor word is sung and the Bass mix is just unique. Now remember kabhi Neen Neem from Yuva, how come nobody noticed the beginning and the first interlude a brilliant composition and programming. The beginning of kandukondein kandukondein is mesmerizing but is always special. Kehna hi kya (Bombay) was done completely on a Bass guitar and claps leaving aside the alaap from our BOSS in the first interlude. It would be crime if I dont consider Tu Hi re (Bombay) which was again a complete Bass Guitar These were just the few rays from the sun more its discussed is the more light. RDB Illayaraja also had enough good songs in their kitty with IR himself being an excellent guitar performer he too tried few exceptional songs. Churaliya hain Tumne jo dil ko from RD Burman is an evergreen song. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord purevibz@ wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. - 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click here.
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
A bass guitar is very low sounding on the octave. You have to pay attention many times to listen to is since it's usually well mixed in with the other tracks. Only in certain songs is the bass track outstanding in its relative volume level. Other guitars are higher pitched and have better lustre tone and texture. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have a small doubt, whether the guitar used in Athiradi song in sivaji film is also a base guitar? what is the difference between a normal guitar and base guitar? If possible can anyone expalin the difference in each type of guitar with an example from ARR's composition. Regards S.Sunder - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 23 March, 2008 1:24:54 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan anatomy54321@ yahoo.ca Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ ... wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord purevibz@ . wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac. blogspot. com - - --- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Good points! I forgot about Keith Peters. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
My favorites: Kehne ko Dadi = Jeans has a very nice BG interlude Dil Se Re - Dil Se Chaiya Chaiya - Dil Se Dhaka laga buka - Yuva only you - VM Ajooba - Jeans --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have a small doubt, whether the guitar used in Athiradi song in sivaji film is also a base guitar? what is the difference between a normal guitar and base guitar? If possible can anyone expalin the difference in each type of guitar with an example from ARR's composition. Regards S.Sunder - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 23 March, 2008 1:24:54 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan anatomy54321@ yahoo.ca Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ ... wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord purevibz@ . wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac. blogspot. com - - --- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
my guess is a collective mix of acoustic bass guitar and electric guitar.. basically, u can find all songs from ARR that has the bass guitar embedded in the final product (song).. use of acoustic bass guitar + electric guitar can be heard in the na na na theme (athiradee theme) that is used for SUPERSTAR credits On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:06 AM, Sunder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I have a small doubt, whether the guitar used in Athiradi song in sivaji film is also a base guitar? what is the difference between a normal guitar and base guitar? If possible can anyone expalin the difference in each type of guitar with an example from ARR's composition. Regards S.Sunder - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 23 March, 2008 1:24:54 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan anatomy54321@ yahoo.ca anatomy54321%40yahoo.ca Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ ... wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac. blogspot. com http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com/ - - --- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how.http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_mail_5/*http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/
[arr] Re:[Non - ARR] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Dude Nagaraj ! few days back, i read an interesting thought of words from a real estate advt as told by a 13th century saint. It says, Do what is necessary. In that, do what is possible. Suddenly you will find yourself doing the impossible. Arr is the case of impossible thing that he excelled to skies. Including IR sir, those who all gave chance to ARR in his initial stages must be thanked at this point. Arr certainly worked with a good task master, maestro Ilayaraja. You need to be motivated to reach heights. IR other such directors have been a cause of motivation for ARR. From there ARR sharpened moulded his creativity. Without the basics main curriculum you cannot jump to creative point. These video links related to guitars for those who think IR otherwise. Lot more there on these lines. When we prepare our Resume, we do not ignore our previous employers include them as our experience. We are grateful to previous employers for giving an opportunity howsoever we differ with them. While we were struggling for an opening, we got that job. I could say we would definitely gained more confidence in work in initial stages which makes to move to next offer so on to do our own business successfully. http://youtube.com/watch?v=_izL5KkDbhU http://youtube.com/watch?v=oQqb6KPpRoM http://youtube.com/watch?v=owiXDr1xQ8Y http://youtube.com/watch?v=h2qaO9QyHCk http://youtube.com/watch?v=4LA0d-8q0XQ http://youtube.com/watch?v=qeUQF7pdn7M http://youtube.com/watch?v=Em71WU3H638 http://youtube.com/watch?v=h2qaO9QyHCk Nagaraj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the starting part of ithu oru ponmalai pozhuthu a gud example of IR's guitar? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, arr_raghu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thulasi Ram, I agree that ARR is pioneer is projecting professional value of any instrument.. not just guitar. Regarding that question, neither do I have any examples of IR using bass... but the idea came to my mind for the reasons that IR is a guitar expert by himself and uses guitar extensively in his compositions whenever it is possible. I was only gussing, didnt confirm. Just occured to me that how can the guitar gold medalist compose 700+ films without using bass. If we talk about ARR's Vellaipookkal, kamosh raath, jumbalika, likku chuppi , n-y-nagaram, roobaroo standout for guitar not just bass. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Thulasi Ram karokelip@ wrote: Raghu! din expect this from u!!! any examples of that MD using an electric guitar??? i've hardly heard his songs have any traces of guitar.. and it is really surprising to hear that he used every possible version of guitar.. oops!~! i dont know abt RDB but i think that one should agree that ARR uses ever version of guitar or any other instrument in the best possible way it could be handled.. ARR handles the sound even from a dolak in a more professional manner.. that's his amazing musical trait.. the song that immediately strikes my mind is kannodu kanbedhellam.. the melam percussion was handled in a serene way and it added so much beauty to the song.. there is only one reason for that: it is ARRs magic! On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:25 PM, arr_raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: Illaya Raja must have used every possible version of guitar. arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Prasad Varma svspvarma@ wrote: I am afraid not. I think RDB first used it way back in 1970 in the song Gulabi Ankhen from The Train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4e3hQDsEJQ RDB had a trademark sound characterized by a unique rhythm and the bass guitar in the back ground which made most of his songs instantly recognizable. dont have th Here's another example from Yeh Vaada Raha which came out in the early 80s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svsh7ayHRak. Of course I also love the way ARR weaves the bass guitar around his melodies sometimes building the entire song around the bass loop itself. Perfect example - The title song from Dil Se: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qbbXBnVTuw - Original Message From: Chord purevibz@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56:25 AM Subject: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Actually Rahman use the Bass effectively in every song.. But only in few songs he brings it in mainstream rhythm.. Eg. Chinna chinna Aasai, Mustafa Mustafa, Aye Udi Udi, Chupke Se.. etc. etc. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can't agree more Chord. These days ...effective usage or as you say - justice :-) is done only by ARR and Vishal B But ARR's use is extra-ordinary ..in fact there are just so many songs where even without us realising the Bass is what powers the song entirely . The songs from Taj Mahal, Meenaxi and En Swasa Katre ...come to my mind immediately where he has used the bass incredibly well in many songs ... -A --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord purevibz@ wrote: Thanks Prasad for this very informative illustration. I knew RDB was a pioneer in many ways, but didn't realize it was him who first used the bass, since I am not very familiar with his sound. Among the contemporary MDs, I think ARR and Vishal B do the most justice to the bass guitar sound. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Prasad Varma svspvarma@ wrote: I am afraid not. I think RDB first used it way back in 1970 in the song Gulabi Ankhen from The Train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4e3hQDsEJQ RDB had a trademark sound characterized by a unique rhythm and the bass guitar in the back ground which made most of his songs instantly recognizable. Here's another example from Yeh Vaada Raha which came out in the early 80s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svsh7ayHRak. Of course I also love the way ARR weaves the bass guitar around his melodies sometimes building the entire song around the bass loop itself. Perfect example - The title song from Dil Se: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qbbXBnVTuw - Original Message From: Chord purevibz@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56:25 AM Subject: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line- height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font- weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject:Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Correct me if I am wrong Ni Mein Samajh gayi Bass appears programmed on a synthesizer. Chaiyyan Chaiyyan was a song where the guitar (Bass Lead)dominates and creates a rock kind of environment. This was an exceptional master piece including the song itself which no other music directors have been successful with such experiments. If another bass guitar work claims its the Noor Un ala song where the beginning Noor Noor Noor word is sung and the Bass mix is just unique. Now remember kabhi Neen Neem from Yuva, how come nobody noticed the beginning and the first interlude a brilliant composition and programming. The beginning of kandukondein kandukondein is mesmerizing but is always special. Kehna hi kya (Bombay) was done completely on a Bass guitar and claps leaving aside the alaap from our BOSS in the first interlude. It would be crime if I dont consider Tu Hi re (Bombay) which was again a complete Bass Guitar These were just the few rays from the sun more its discussed is the more light. RDB Illayaraja also had enough good songs in their kitty with IR himself being an excellent guitar performer he too tried few exceptional songs. Churaliya hain Tumne jo dil ko from RD Burman is an evergreen song. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord purevibz@ wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Vari Vari from Mangal Pandey anyone? On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM, rayrai2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct me if I am wrong Ni Mein Samajh gayi Bass appears programmed on a synthesizer. Chaiyyan Chaiyyan was a song where the guitar (Bass Lead)dominates and creates a rock kind of environment. This was an exceptional master piece including the song itself which no other music directors have been successful with such experiments. If another bass guitar work claims its the Noor Un ala song where the beginning Noor Noor Noor word is sung and the Bass mix is just unique. Now remember kabhi Neen Neem from Yuva, how come nobody noticed the beginning and the first interlude a brilliant composition and programming. The beginning of kandukondein kandukondein is mesmerizing but is always special. Kehna hi kya (Bombay) was done completely on a Bass guitar and claps leaving aside the alaap from our BOSS in the first interlude. It would be crime if I dont consider Tu Hi re (Bombay) which was again a complete Bass Guitar These were just the few rays from the sun more its discussed is the more light. RDB Illayaraja also had enough good songs in their kitty with IR himself being an excellent guitar performer he too tried few exceptional songs. Churaliya hain Tumne jo dil ko from RD Burman is an evergreen song. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord purevibz@ wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR?
Theres no debate on how the instrument sounds are produced. . .i reiterate. . .personaly i feel ni mein is a very powerful track. . .the lyrics r nt hindi and the bass though in a loop sounds awesome. . .conveys the agression in the words. . Just my two bits. . .thanks. . .dnt want a cöntroversy. . . Reply Header Subject:Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: rayrai2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22nd March 2008 16:53 Correct me if I am wrong Ni Mein Samajh gayi Bass appears programmed on a synthesizer. Chaiyyan Chaiyyan was a song where the guitar (Bass Lead)dominates and creates a rock kind of environment. This was an exceptional master piece including the song itself which no other music directors have been successful with such experiments. If another bass guitar work claims its the Noor Un ala song where the beginning Noor Noor Noor word is sung and the Bass mix is just unique. Now remember kabhi Neen Neem from Yuva, how come nobody noticed the beginning and the first interlude a brilliant composition and programming. The beginning of kandukondein kandukondein is mesmerizing but is always special. Kehna hi kya (Bombay) was done completely on a Bass guitar and claps leaving aside the alaap from our BOSS in the first interlude. It would be crime if I dont consider Tu Hi re (Bombay) which was again a complete Bass Guitar These were just the few rays from the sun more its discussed is the more light. RDB Illayaraja also had enough good songs in their kitty with IR himself being an excellent guitar performer he too tried few exceptional songs. Churaliya hain Tumne jo dil ko from RD Burman is an evergreen song. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord purevibz@ wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.
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Hi I have a small doubt, whether the guitar used in Athiradi song in sivaji film is also a base guitar? what is the difference between a normal guitar and base guitar? If possible can anyone expalin the difference in each type of guitar with an example from ARR's composition. Regards S.Sunder - Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, 23 March, 2008 1:24:54 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan anatomy54321@ yahoo.ca Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ ... wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac. blogspot. com - - --- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html
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what abt Spiderman from NEW ? On 3/22/08, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vari Vari from Mangal Pandey anyone? On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 10:14 PM, rayrai2k [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct me if I am wrong Ni Mein Samajh gayi Bass appears programmed on a synthesizer. Chaiyyan Chaiyyan was a song where the guitar (Bass Lead)dominates and creates a rock kind of environment. This was an exceptional master piece including the song itself which no other music directors have been successful with such experiments. If another bass guitar work claims its the Noor Un ala song where the beginning Noor Noor Noor word is sung and the Bass mix is just unique. Now remember kabhi Neen Neem from Yuva, how come nobody noticed the beginning and the first interlude a brilliant composition and programming. The beginning of kandukondein kandukondein is mesmerizing but is always special. Kehna hi kya (Bombay) was done completely on a Bass guitar and claps leaving aside the alaap from our BOSS in the first interlude. It would be crime if I dont consider Tu Hi re (Bombay) which was again a complete Bass Guitar These were just the few rays from the sun more its discussed is the more light. RDB Illayaraja also had enough good songs in their kitty with IR himself being an excellent guitar performer he too tried few exceptional songs. Churaliya hain Tumne jo dil ko from RD Burman is an evergreen song. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally the most powerful track wth the bass i like is ni mein samajh gayi. .the entire song ìs done wth only the bass Reply Header Subject: Re: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? Author: Thineshan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 22nd March 2008 13:32 if you guys want to listen to how uniquely ARR mixed bass guitar, listen to margazhi thingal (sangamam). i dont think neone has ever mixed a bass guitar for a carnatic song. sounds terrific. latest case - valayapatti (the use of bass guitar once again for the carnatic aalaps) tremendously intelligent arrangement, just goes to show that bass guitar is a very powerful accompaniment for carnatic song (like a violin). --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Aravind AM aravind_am@ wrote: Chord, Bang on dude I have always felt so. I'm so addicted to the bass guitar patterns in many of his songs that, when I listen to songs, I always hum the bass guitar part throughout the song, rather than the main song itself!! :D Bass guitar arrangements in ARR songs has been one of the things that has always fascinated me in his songs! I guess only ARR has utilised the full potential of Keith Peters... Keith Peters also has never forgotten to thank ARR in any of his interviews - coz he is a well known figure only because ARR showcased his talent to the world!! Kudos to ARR for giving so much importance to Bass guitar which had been an underrated instrument at least in tamil music IMO, bass guitar usage got a boost in tamil music only because of ARR (Though Bass Guitar has been used in tamil music, it was hardly used to this extent!) Aravind Chord purevibz@ wrote: I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? http://arrahmaniac.blogspot.com - Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. -- regards, Vithur A.R.Rahman - The Adorable Human Being
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Can't agree more Chord. These days ...effective usage or as you say - justice :-) is done only by ARR and Vishal B But ARR's use is extra-ordinary ..in fact there are just so many songs where even without us realising the Bass is what powers the song entirely . The songs from Taj Mahal, Meenaxi and En Swasa Katre ...come to my mind immediately where he has used the bass incredibly well in many songs ... -A --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Prasad for this very informative illustration. I knew RDB was a pioneer in many ways, but didn't realize it was him who first used the bass, since I am not very familiar with his sound. Among the contemporary MDs, I think ARR and Vishal B do the most justice to the bass guitar sound. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Prasad Varma svspvarma@ wrote: I am afraid not. I think RDB first used it way back in 1970 in the song Gulabi Ankhen from The Train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4e3hQDsEJQ RDB had a trademark sound characterized by a unique rhythm and the bass guitar in the back ground which made most of his songs instantly recognizable. Here's another example from Yeh Vaada Raha which came out in the early 80s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svsh7ayHRak. Of course I also love the way ARR weaves the bass guitar around his melodies sometimes building the entire song around the bass loop itself. Perfect example - The title song from Dil Se: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qbbXBnVTuw - Original Message From: Chord purevibz@ To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56:25 AM Subject: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line- height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text- transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text- align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp
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Thanks Prasad for this very informative illustration. I knew RDB was a pioneer in many ways, but didn't realize it was him who first used the bass, since I am not very familiar with his sound. Among the contemporary MDs, I think ARR and Vishal B do the most justice to the bass guitar sound. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Prasad Varma [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am afraid not. I think RDB first used it way back in 1970 in the song Gulabi Ankhen from The Train. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4e3hQDsEJQ RDB had a trademark sound characterized by a unique rhythm and the bass guitar in the back ground which made most of his songs instantly recognizable. Here's another example from Yeh Vaada Raha which came out in the early 80s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Svsh7ayHRak. Of course I also love the way ARR weaves the bass guitar around his melodies sometimes building the entire song around the bass loop itself. Perfect example - The title song from Dil Se: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qbbXBnVTuw - Original Message From: Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:56:25 AM Subject: [arr] Is using bass guitar unique to ARR? I think ARR using bass guitar in his songs is just brilliant. It adds a sonic dimension that makes a song sound more complete and fulfilling. Latest case in point is Khwaja Mere Khwaja. Is he the first MD to really utilize the bass sound so consttuctively in film songs? !-- #ygrp-mkp{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;font-family:Arial;margin:14px 0px;padding:0px 14px;} #ygrp-mkp hr{ border:1px solid #d8d8d8;} #ygrp-mkp #hd{ color:#628c2a;font-size:85%;font-weight:bold;line-height:122%;margin:10px 0px;} #ygrp-mkp #ads{ margin-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-mkp .ad{ padding:0 0;} #ygrp-mkp .ad a{ color:#ff;text-decoration:none;} -- !-- #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc{ font-family:Arial;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc #hd{ margin:10px 0px;font-weight:bold;font-size:78%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ygrp-lc .ad{ margin-bottom:10px;padding:0 0;} -- !-- #ygrp-mlmsg {font-size:13px;font-family:arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg table {font-size:inherit;font:100%;} #ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {font:99% arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif;} #ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {font:115% monospace;} #ygrp-mlmsg * {line-height:1.22em;} #ygrp-text{ font-family:Georgia; } #ygrp-text p{ margin:0 0 1em 0;} #ygrp-tpmsgs{ font-family:Arial; clear:both;} #ygrp-vitnav{ padding-top:10px;font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;margin:0;} #ygrp-vitnav a{ padding:0 1px;} #ygrp-actbar{ clear:both;margin:25px 0;white-space:nowrap;color:#666;text-align:right;} #ygrp-actbar .left{ float:left;white-space:nowrap;} .bld{font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-grft{ font-family:Verdana;font-size:77%;padding:15px 0;} #ygrp-ft{ font-family:verdana;font-size:77%;border-top:1px solid #666; padding:5px 0; } #ygrp-mlmsg #logo{ padding-bottom:10px;} #ygrp-reco { margin-bottom:20px;padding:0px;} #ygrp-reco #reco-head { font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;} #reco-grpname{ font-weight:bold;margin-top:10px;} #reco-category{ font-size:77%;} #reco-desc{ font-size:77%;} #ygrp-vital{ background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:2px 0 8px 8px;} #ygrp-vital #vithd{ font-size:77%;font-family:Verdana;font-weight:bold;color:#333;text-transform:uppercase;} #ygrp-vital ul{ padding:0;margin:2px 0;} #ygrp-vital ul li{ list-style-type:none;clear:both;border:1px solid #e0ecee; } #ygrp-vital ul li .ct{ font-weight:bold;color:#ff7900;float:right;width:2em;text-align:right;padding-right:.5em;} #ygrp-vital ul li .cat{ font-weight:bold;} #ygrp-vital a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-vital a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor #hd{ color:#999;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov{ padding:6px 13px;background-color:#e0ecee;margin-bottom:20px;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov ul{ padding:0 0 0 8px;margin:0;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li{ list-style-type:square;padding:6px 0;font-size:77%;} #ygrp-sponsor #ov li a{ text-decoration:none;font-size:130%;} #ygrp-sponsor #nc{ background-color:#eee;margin-bottom:20px;padding:0 8px;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad{ padding:8px 0;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad #hd1{ font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color:#628c2a;font-size:100%;line-height:122%;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a{ text-decoration:none;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad a:hover{ text-decoration:underline;} #ygrp-sponsor .ad p{ margin:0;} o{font-size:0;} .MsoNormal{ margin:0 0 0 0;} #ygrp-text tt{ font-size:120%;} blockquote{margin:0 0 0 4px;} .replbq{margin:4;} -- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ