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Kishore... whats with the bold font all the time?? It's pretty hard to read... so pls write in normal font man... --- kishore parayath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *Better CHANGE the TITLE Please DONT prove yourself a JOKER by telling that a VERY VERY VAGUE CO-incidential similarity makes d song un-original... * *WellDo understand one thingOur master, ARR always checks Yahoo groups, Whenever he gets time... So please dont SURPRISE him with jokes * ** *As I said, ARR is one of the VERY FEW COMPOSERS in thw world who are 100% ORIGINAL!!* The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman -
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Rahman brought in more knowledge about world music to us and now we picking him on 2-3 seconds of similarity in interludes with english numbers! Great! very well said dude, I completely agree with you. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, s_sundarr_2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blessing in disguise ! Rahman brought in more knowledge about world music to us and now we picking him on 2-3 seconds of similarity in interludes with english numbers! when i eagerly login to read nice comments abt the musiq of JTYJN i read these -ve comments.. let me singoff for 2-3 weeks as am throughly enjoying the musiq to the core... be constructive in criticism sundar. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord purevibz@ wrote: Where are the English words in Kahin To? Curious what people comment on Rahman when they hear English words in his songs --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chitra geetam chitrageetam@ wrote: Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use that english song chorus?? These things make people start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is not getting the credit for this reason. --- anthony jewelson an_jew23@ wrote: - i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i know this term of co-incidence is not possible in music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be anything else other than copying. take care regards anthony jewelson --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar raj_d_kumar@ wrote: From: raj_d_kumar raj_d_kumar@ Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms. . see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj - Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. Greetings Chitra Music Moves
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very wekk said. I completely agree --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, arun mohan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi all.. if this is the kinda of copying one is finding then, no instrument can be used by other, and no same raaga too cannot be used by other. please feel the music rather than finding most silly faults like this. rahman doesnt hav to survive with copying some other song... belive tht thing first bro. the genre of both the songs r soft rock ballad. this copying is like one finding out all the rock music is same because everyone is using guitar, drums and loud vocals.. lol. an analysis of a critic over any work is very good, bt never do such thing tht will take away ones own reputation... u can belive him... cos he delivers the best no other can giv... a humble another rahmanic On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the English words in Kahin To? Curious what people comment on Rahman when they hear English words in his songs --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, chitra geetam chitrageetam@ wrote: Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use that english song chorus?? These things make people start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is not getting the credit for this reason. --- anthony jewelson an_jew23@ wrote: - i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i know this term of co-incidence is not possible in music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be anything else other than copying. take care regards anthony jewelson --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar raj_d_kumar@ wrote: From: raj_d_kumar raj_d_kumar@ Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms. . see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj - Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. Greetings Chitra Music Moves
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Superb Reply Well said Arun Mohan. You explained the fact in a very classical style. Hats off. --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, arun mohan lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] .gt; wrote: gt; gt; hi all.. gt; if this is the kinda of copying one is finding gt; then, no instrument can be used by other, and no same raaga too cannot be gt; used by other. please feel the music rather than finding most silly faults gt; like this. rahman doesnt hav to survive with copying some other song... gt; belive tht thing first bro. the genre of both the songs r soft rock ballad. gt; this copying is like one finding out all the rock music is same because gt; everyone is using guitar, drums and loud vocals.. lol. gt; an analysis of a critic over any work is very good, gt; bt never do such thing tht will take away ones own reputation.. . gt; gt; u can belive him... cos he delivers the best no other can giv... gt; gt; a humble another rahmanic gt; gt; On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Chord lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED] .gt; wrote: gt; gt; gt; Where are the English words in Kahin To? Curious what people comment gt; gt; on Rahman when they hear English words in his songs gt; gt; gt; gt; --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com lt;arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. comgt;, gt; gt; chitra geetam lt;chitrageetam@ gt; gt; gt; wrote: gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use gt; gt; gt; that english song chorus?? These things make people gt; gt; gt; start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman gt; gt; gt; not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is gt; gt; gt; not getting the credit for this reason. gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; --- anthony jewelson lt;an_jew23@gt; wrote: gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; - - --- gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the gt; gt; gt; same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or gt; gt; gt; lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i gt; gt; gt; know this term of co-incidence is not possible in gt; gt; gt; music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be gt; gt; gt; anything else other than copying. gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; take care gt; gt; gt; regards gt; gt; gt; anthony jewelson gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar gt; gt; gt; lt;raj_d_kumar@ gt; wrote: gt; gt; gt; From: raj_d_kumar lt;raj_d_kumar@ gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! gt; gt; gt; To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com lt;arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. comgt; gt; gt; gt; Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the gt; gt; gt; instrument used is gt; gt; gt; similar.. if that is the case then i think all the gt; gt; gt; ENGLISH songs is gt; gt; gt; copy of each other and same as they all use drums and gt; gt; gt; guitar.. ! gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat gt; gt; gt; is similar gt; gt; gt; doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do gt; gt; gt; that... gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; if you really want to see how other composers do gt; gt; gt; plagiarisms. . see the gt; gt; gt; link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole gt; gt; gt; song.. gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; and many more.. gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; ARR can never do anything like this... gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. gt; gt; gt; JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; ARR Rules.. gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; Raj gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; - - --- gt; gt; gt; Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and gt; gt; gt; more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; Greetings gt; gt; gt; Chitra gt; gt; gt; Music Moves gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food and more. Go to http://in.promos.yahoo.com/groups/bestofyahoo/
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*Iam FED UP of these newbies in Music Iam a fan of MLTR... and I have heard the song atleast 1000times And I wud say, there is not even 0.5% Similarity in d song. There is only a VAGUE similarity in d chorus... And both the songs are created in d same mood...And tehy say th WHOLE song is NOT ORIGINALFUNNY .. And EVEN ARR would be SUPRISED to know this Becuase it wqas UNINTENTIONAL...and only a very very small portion of the beginning of d chorus.And that is CO-INCIDENCEHAHA MUSICIANS AROUND THE WORLD HAVE COPIED AR RAHMAN's ROJA and also MUKKALA and HUMMA HUMMA.. Esp. WESTERN artists... These TRACKS travelled AROUND the WORLD under different names and under different composers 1 or 2 years after Rahman composed the ORIGINAL. So I emphasise on making u understand that TUNES are copied FROM Rahman..And Rahman NEVER COPIES a tune.. Look @ d TITLE.It made me BURST into LAUGHTER!! *
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Blessing in disguise ! Rahman brought in more knowledge about world music to us and now we picking him on 2-3 seconds of similarity in interludes with english numbers! when i eagerly login to read nice comments abt the musiq of JTYJN i read these -ve comments.. let me singoff for 2-3 weeks as am throughly enjoying the musiq to the core... be constructive in criticism sundar. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the English words in Kahin To? Curious what people comment on Rahman when they hear English words in his songs --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chitra geetam chitrageetam@ wrote: Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use that english song chorus?? These things make people start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is not getting the credit for this reason. --- anthony jewelson an_jew23@ wrote: - i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i know this term of co-incidence is not possible in music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be anything else other than copying. take care regards anthony jewelson --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar raj_d_kumar@ wrote: From: raj_d_kumar raj_d_kumar@ Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms. . see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj - Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. Greetings Chitra Music Moves
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ARR does what he does. nobody has authority on him. Stop this somebody tell Arr to do this and do that crap. He is going to compose music from his heart. take it or leave it. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:44 AM, chitra geetam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use that english song chorus?? These things make people start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is not getting the credit for this reason. --- anthony jewelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] an_jew23%40yahoo.co.in wrote: - i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i know this term of co-incidence is not possible in music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be anything else other than copying. take care regards anthony jewelson --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] raj_d_kumar%40rediffmail.com wrote: From: raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED]raj_d_kumar%40rediffmail.com Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms. . see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj - Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. Greetings Chitra Music Moves
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hi all.. if this is the kinda of copying one is finding then, no instrument can be used by other, and no same raaga too cannot be used by other. please feel the music rather than finding most silly faults like this. rahman doesnt hav to survive with copying some other song... belive tht thing first bro. the genre of both the songs r soft rock ballad. this copying is like one finding out all the rock music is same because everyone is using guitar, drums and loud vocals.. lol. an analysis of a critic over any work is very good, bt never do such thing tht will take away ones own reputation... u can belive him... cos he delivers the best no other can giv... a humble another rahmanic On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Chord [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where are the English words in Kahin To? Curious what people comment on Rahman when they hear English words in his songs --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, chitra geetam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use that english song chorus?? These things make people start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is not getting the credit for this reason. --- anthony jewelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i know this term of co-incidence is not possible in music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be anything else other than copying. take care regards anthony jewelson --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms. . see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj - Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. Greetings Chitra Music Moves
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can someone tell me at watch time the chorus comes.. Till now i cant identify absolutely any similarity on these two songs..To me they sound as different as they can get.. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chitra geetam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use that english song chorus?? These things make people start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is not getting the credit for this reason. --- anthony jewelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i know this term of co-incidence is not possible in music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be anything else other than copying. take care regards anthony jewelson --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms. . see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj - Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. Greetings Chitra Music Moves
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Well said Arun Mohan. I agree with you. This is not a copy at all. Only same genre.
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This only goes to prove that too much knowledge is dangerous as well. I am impressed with the democracy in this group but it is a double-edged sword. We as fans have got to do better than terming a 5 second similarity between a chorus and an instrument in a 5 minute song as copying. It is important to have FAITH in the man rather than super analyzing all the music of every musician in this world. After all we have only 2 ears and a short life. So for now, enjoy the music, man. From: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of mmparthi2003 Sent: 22 May, 2008 7:18 AM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! I dnt wanna argue with you...but its not simply the instrument...if you look closely at the english song the chorus is similar...NOT THE SAME...SIMILAR! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com mailto:arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com , hari prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there nly jus pretty little resemblances..that is tat instrument in d start... they both sound similar cos off d same tempo... it s damn absurd to say tat its a lift n d songs has let u down n bla bla!! i can say tis cos i ve heard tat track of mltr(i am not an actor ..i am not a star n i don even hav my own car!!! n i lov tis too) personally a lotta times than ny 1!!! n i can say its mere coinincidence in tis case!! for u guys its sounds similar nly cos of the same instrument n the mood of tat song!! hariprasad b cool n enjoy life - Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! Group.
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*Better CHANGE the TITLE Please DONT prove yourself a JOKER by telling that a VERY VERY VAGUE CO-incidential similarity makes d song un-original... * *WellDo understand one thingOur master, ARR always checks Yahoo groups, Whenever he gets time... So please dont SURPRISE him with jokes * ** *As I said, ARR is one of the VERY FEW COMPOSERS in thw world who are 100% ORIGINAL!!*
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I don't see how it's 'the same' or 'obvious', but I found the 'Wafaa nahin' part at the end of the song to be similar (not 'the same') to 'I just called' by Stevie Wonder. -Sanjay --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, krishnaeie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont find much similarity between them... both are melodies more or less at the same pace of singingwhen i saw ur link i thought OMG!!! but on hearing it..nope.. i dont agree with u --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ wrote: heres the song link http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDoDsa9J-Y --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shanu m mshanuin@ wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.
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We Said Anand. Coudn' agree wih you more. One in a million compositions could probably be heard without comparison to something else you've heard before. I think Rahman has given us quite a few of those. Have some faith in the man and enjoy the music! - Original Message From: Anand Bharathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 3:26:18 PM Subject: RE: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! This only goes to prove that too much knowledge is dangerous as well. I am impressed with the democracy in this group but it is a double-edged sword. We as fans have got to do better than terming a 5 second similarity between a chorus and an instrument in a 5 minute song as copying. It is important to have FAITH in the man rather than super analyzing all the music of every musician in this world. After all we have only 2 ears and a short life. So for now, enjoy the music, man. From:arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:arrahmanfan [EMAIL PROTECTED] com] On Behalf Of mmparthi2003 Sent: 22 May, 2008 7:18 AM To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! I dnt wanna argue with you...but its not simply the instrument.. .if you look closely at the english song the chorus is similar...NOT THE SAME...SIMILAR! --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, hari prasad coolharry_18@ ... wrote: there nly jus pretty little resemblances. .that is tat instrument in d start... they both sound similar cos off d same tempo... it s damn absurd to say tat its a lift n d songs has let u down n bla bla!! i can say tis cos i ve heard tat track of mltr(i am not an actor ..i am not a star n i don even hav my own car!!! n i lov tis too) personally a lotta times than ny 1!!! n i can say its mere coinincidence in tis case!! for u guys its sounds similar nly cos of the same instrument n the mood of tat song!! hariprasad b cool n enjoy life - - --- Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! Group.
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Well said Gomzy!!! Cheers, Madhavan.R Love, Music, Peace...and AR Rahman for Life!!! On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:12 PM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have no qualms either. ARR is as pure as water. I dont need to say this, i feel it through his music. At the end of the day he is a human being. Imagine you are inspired by so many artists but when creating music you have to be totally original. Just the attempt that he does is enough for me. On 5/21/08, Sai Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah exactly... On 5/21/08, $ Pavan Kumar $ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Sai, Nobody is pounding on anyone,Nobody bashed up mmtrpathiEveryone have they own view points and they are just putting them herejust like he,you and i do... Cheers and let us enjoy these 2 superb albums... *Sai Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote: Well, plagarism is an evil around the world, especially with indian artists, be it music, movie or whatever somewhere or the other we have this evil. ARR is no different, he too have his own part in this. Whenever someone has the courage to scream that the king is naked, we have ARR fans (i would call them fanatics) pounding on them and giving great insights to music by terming loops, commercial tracks or whatever. So I would suggest, just accept the fact and enjoy good music. If I have to cite examples, every album (almost 99%) that gets released in India by Indian artists are either inspired or a complete lift off. On 5/21/08, Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ .it bears a slight resemblance and that too just the chorus (well yes ..its quite similar or probably the same) but the rest of the song is pretty different ... -A On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM, mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heres the song link http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDoDsa9J-Y --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shanu m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. -- -A http://viewsnmuse.blogspot.com http://www.mymailsignature.com/ http://www.mymailsignature.com/?partner=ZGzeb001
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WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms.. see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj
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This is what I wanted to say...I didn't wanna shout up OMG HE COPIED! The fact that I mentioned about it is that when you hear such things it takes away the love you had for that song or entire album It just makes you think oh comon really? plz say no... I didn't find this similarity my self...my friend within one hear identified itanother friend identified similarities of Pappu and another song...that just really made me pissed! Because when I got the album I just went so hyper enjoying it and suddenly when hearing such claim it was like pushing me down into the groundI really wish I didnt hear the similarities but it just took away the pure element! Jaane Tu is one fantastic album but such thigns really make me sad because thats how much I love ARR and his music --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms.. see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj
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i just went thru the youtube links posted by Raj abt Pritam's copied tunes. OMG that is what is called real PLAGIARISM relax mmparthi2003. Kahin To is not copied. the chorus resembles the chorus of MLTR's actor song. The entire song has an MLTRish soft ballad feel to it. The tune is totally different from Actor song. This cannot be called a copy, IMHO please please listen to both songs once again before deciding. don't judge from what your friend says It is really a shame that some people are so quick to accuse ARR of copying if there is a slight similarity here and there. On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 7:23 PM, mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I wanted to say...I didn't wanna shout up OMG HE COPIED! The fact that I mentioned about it is that when you hear such things it takes away the love you had for that song or entire album It just makes you think oh comon really? plz say no... I didn't find this similarity my self...my friend within one hear identified itanother friend identified similarities of Pappu and another song...that just really made me pissed! Because when I got the album I just went so hyper enjoying it and suddenly when hearing such claim it was like pushing me down into the groundI really wish I didnt hear the similarities but it just took away the pure element! Jaane Tu is one fantastic album but such thigns really make me sad because thats how much I love ARR and his music --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms.. see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj
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Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use that english song chorus?? These things make people start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is not getting the credit for this reason. --- anthony jewelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i know this term of co-incidence is not possible in music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be anything else other than copying. take care regards anthony jewelson --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms. . see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj - Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. Greetings Chitra Music Moves
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I dnt wanna argue with you...but its not simply the instrument...if you look closely at the english song the chorus is similar...NOT THE SAME...SIMILAR! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, hari prasad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there nly jus pretty little resemblances..that is tat instrument in d start... they both sound similar cos off d same tempo... it s damn absurd to say tat its a lift n d songs has let u down n bla bla!! i can say tis cos i ve heard tat track of mltr(i am not an actor ..i am not a star n i don even hav my own car!!! n i lov tis too) personally a lotta times than ny 1!!! n i can say its mere coinincidence in tis case!! for u guys its sounds similar nly cos of the same instrument n the mood of tat song!! hariprasad b cool n enjoy life - Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite Yahoo! Group.
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Where are the English words in Kahin To? Curious what people comment on Rahman when they hear English words in his songs --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, chitra geetam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Song sounds wonderful.. but what made rahman use that english song chorus?? These things make people start commenting our rahman..pls somebody tell rahman not to use such things.. otherwise wonderuful song is not getting the credit for this reason. --- anthony jewelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - i have not yet heard these songs. even if they are the same RAHMANJI would have never copied the tunes or lifted the music. it should be a mere co-incidence. i know this term of co-incidence is not possible in music but when rahmanji is involved it has to be anything else other than copying. take care regards anthony jewelson --- On Wed, 21/5/08, raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: raj_d_kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 21 May, 2008, 2:52 PM WHY Again you guys compare songs when just the instrument used is similar.. if that is the case then i think all the ENGLISH songs is copy of each other and same as they all use drums and guitar.. ! just 2-3 second of music is similar or just some beat is similar doesnt make the song copied ARR will never do that... if you really want to see how other composers do plagiarisms. . see the link below.. how pritam shamelessly lift the whole song.. http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=CAVvhsUlvjM http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=QkuGm_7sWdA http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=1p_7eKlr15o http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=zpl5146AAyU and many more.. ARR can never do anything like this... ADA is divine.. each composition is marvelous.. JTYJN.. just make me jump and dance again.. :) ARR Rules.. Raj - Best Jokes, Best Friends, Best Food. Get all this and more on Best of Yahoo! Groups. Greetings Chitra Music Moves
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heres the song link http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDoDsa9J-Y --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shanu m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.
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sorry I meant the chorus too --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ .it bears a slight resemblance and that too just the chorus (well yes ..its quite similar or probably the same) but the rest of the song is pretty different ... -A On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM, mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heres the song link http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDoDsa9J-Y --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shanu m mshanuin@ wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. -- -A http://viewsnmuse.blogspot.com
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just the 1st line of the chorus is similar. Except that the whole song is different Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I beg to differ .it bears a slight resemblance and that too just the chorus (well yes ..its quite similar or probably the same) but the rest of the song is pretty different ... -A On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM, mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heres the song link http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDoDsa9J-Y --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shanu m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. -- -A http://viewsnmuse.blogspot.com Muktak Kanjilal - Planet Earth is in the hot seat. Know more.
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Not able to listen to the entire song on indiafm. When does this chorus appear. The first half of the song ( the part that I could hear) makes me feel like I've heard the song before, but is certainly not a copy of anything I've ever heard before. - Original Message From: mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:48:09 AM Subject: [arr] Re: Sorry Kahin To is not original! heres the song link http://youtube. com/watch? v=CPDoDsa9J- Y --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, shanu m [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ ... wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - - --- Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.
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Dont quite understand your point? Are you of the opinion that it is a copy or it isnt ? -A --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Sai Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, plagarism is an evil around the world, especially with indian artists, be it music, movie or whatever somewhere or the other we have this evil. ARR is no different, he too have his own part in this. Whenever someone has the courage to scream that the king is naked, we have ARR fans (i would call them fanatics) pounding on them and giving great insights to music by terming loops, commercial tracks or whatever. So I would suggest, just accept the fact and enjoy good music. If I have to cite examples, every album (almost 99%) that gets released in India by Indian artists are either inspired or a complete lift off. On 5/21/08, Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ .it bears a slight resemblance and that too just the chorus (well yes ..its quite similar or probably the same) but the rest of the song is pretty different ... -A On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM, mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heres the song link http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDoDsa9J-Y --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, shanu m mshanuin@ wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. -- -A http://viewsnmuse.blogspot.com
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That exactly is my point. I really dont care. I just want to enjoy the music, that's all :-) On 5/21/08, Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dont quite understand your point? Are you of the opinion that it is a copy or it isnt ? -A --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Sai Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, plagarism is an evil around the world, especially with indian artists, be it music, movie or whatever somewhere or the other we have this evil. ARR is no different, he too have his own part in this. Whenever someone has the courage to scream that the king is naked, we have ARR fans (i would call them fanatics) pounding on them and giving great insights to music by terming loops, commercial tracks or whatever. So I would suggest, just accept the fact and enjoy good music. If I have to cite examples, every album (almost 99%) that gets released in India by Indian artists are either inspired or a complete lift off. On 5/21/08, Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ .it bears a slight resemblance and that too just the chorus (well yes ..its quite similar or probably the same) but the rest of the song is pretty different ... -A On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM, mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heres the song link http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDoDsa9J-Y --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.comarrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups.com, shanu m mshanuin@ wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 mmparthi2003@ wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. -- -A http://viewsnmuse.blogspot.com
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Dear Sai, Nobody is pounding on anyone,Nobody bashed up mmtrpathiEveryone have they own view points and they are just putting them herejust like he,you and i do... Cheers and let us enjoy these 2 superb albums... Sai Theodore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, plagarism is an evil around the world, especially with indian artists, be it music, movie or whatever somewhere or the other we have this evil. ARR is no different, he too have his own part in this. Whenever someone has the courage to scream that the king is naked, we have ARR fans (i would call them fanatics) pounding on them and giving great insights to music by terming loops, commercial tracks or whatever. So I would suggest, just accept the fact and enjoy good music. If I have to cite examples, every album (almost 99%) that gets released in India by Indian artists are either inspired or a complete lift off. On 5/21/08, Anil Nair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I beg to differ .it bears a slight resemblance and that too just the chorus (well yes ..its quite similar or probably the same) but the rest of the song is pretty different ... -A On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 9:18 PM, mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heres the song link http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPDoDsa9J-Y --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shanu m [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I felt the same..:(( mmparthi2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I am sorry to say this but it really pissed me off..I never ever thought Ill say this but seems like I have to..it has the same chorus as Micheal learns to rock- The actor... I dnt knwo wht to make out of it but its very obvious! I dnt think it even counts as inspiration but its the exact same! Do not know if its intentional or not...but I hope its intentional or the movie requires! - Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. -- -A http://viewsnmuse.blogspot.com
