Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
From 00:32 to 00:44 Its ARR all the way man. Also from 01:26 to 01:36,2:40 to 2:50 and than stanzas are signature of our ARR. - Original Message From: V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: arrf arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 8:55:47 PM Subject: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs? I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
answer to ur question in the subject - throughout the song On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 12:40 PM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gomzy, Mahima and Vinayakam, let me give one parallel. You must have noticed that the starting part of Hawa sun hawa has similar arrangement as in - Sunta hai Mera Khuda (Pukar) - Maan tujhe Salam (Vandemataram) That is drum beats on a soft, fluid, vibrating, background, wavy, sound sort of. Now, listen to Sunta hai Mera Khuda or Maan tujhe Salam, and you can make out in flat 2 seconds (or less) that it is ARR's. Nobody else could do it till now. But, that same characteristic signature sort of feeling is not so noticeable in Hawa sun hawa, i think. One has to strive to find that it is ARR's. Such a lovely song hawa sun hawa is. Still, I feel some songs by other MDs had been there not so far below. Of course, no match as such but somewhat that type. btw, it could be the common singers using similar span of their voices. That is why I thought that lack of a clearcut ARR signature is causing his songs to loose their high, unique level and sounding similar to other MD's work. -- V On 7/22/2008 11:21 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote: I can understand for Pappu, but Hawa sun hawa Rawat! 1) The way the flute has been used throughout. 2) The piano bits here and there. 3) ARR was given Koun hai yada jo har pal aye, yada woh aye tho ake na jaye But he smartly and heavenly uses the same line to be repeated by Alka after Sonu finishes the same line. 4) The second para he starts with a new tune meri sadayein , tujho ko bulaye ever seen any MD have diff tunes from 2 diff paras ? very rare! 5) the aja re aja re part, so lovely 6) Usage of the tabla mixed with sizzles. 7) And last but not least, the usage of the flute again, during the end of the song! You have been hearing. All you have to do is listen :) But A R Rahman! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Vinayakam Murugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mvinayakam%40gmail.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mvinayakam%40gmail.com wrote: Also my belief is that the fusion bits (addition of raaga and stuff) is done with a lot more sincerity by ARR than the rest. It doesn't sound pretentious like the rest. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ -- Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal rahit vyahvar mera Harivanshrai Bacchan -- On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED]gomtesh.upadhye%40gmail.com mailto:gomtesh.upadhye%40gmail.com gomtesh.upadhye%2540gmail.com wrote: Pappu cant dance- The string bit in the begining along with the bassdefinetly ARR style Hawa Sun Hawa- The flute pieces, the aja re aja re repeats throught the songdefinetly ARR` On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED]vsrawat%40gmail.com mailto:vsrawat%40gmail.com vsrawat%2540gmail.com wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
[arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
Hello Rawatji, How would you define the ARR signature? I do agree that most of the time, we are able to identify that a particular song is by ARR. Is it the clean arrangements, is it the recording quality, is it the involved vocals , clarity of thought ? What is it that elevates an ARR song from the rest? The tune, I think is very important but is not the only thing. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal rahit vyahvar mera Harivanshrai Bacchan - On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:25 AM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
I can't say about Pappu but I can't imagine anyone else composing Hawa Sun Hawa... The search is more important than the destination - a r rahman - --- On Tue, 22/7/08, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs? To: arrf arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008, 8:55 PM I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V . Save all your chat conversations. Find them online at http://in.webmessenger.yahoo.com/
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
Pappu cant dance- The string bit in the begining along with the bassdefinetly ARR style Hawa Sun Hawa- The flute pieces, the aja re aja re repeats throught the songdefinetly ARR` On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
Bingo! Gomzy ... I was about to say the introduction of flute in hawa sun hawa ... can't be ne1 but ARR. The fantastic way its been brought in ... Takes my breath away. --- On Tue, 7/22/08, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs? To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 22, 2008, 5:23 PM Pappu cant dance- The string bit in the begining along with the bassdefinetly ARR style Hawa Sun Hawa- The flute pieces, the aja re aja re repeats throught the songdefinetly ARR` On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
Also my belief is that the fusion bits (addition of raaga and stuff) is done with a lot more sincerity by ARR than the rest. It doesn't sound pretentious like the rest. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal rahit vyahvar mera Harivanshrai Bacchan - On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pappu cant dance- The string bit in the begining along with the bassdefinetly ARR style Hawa Sun Hawa- The flute pieces, the aja re aja re repeats throught the songdefinetly ARR` On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
I can understand for Pappu, but Hawa sun hawa Rawat! 1) The way the flute has been used throughout. 2) The piano bits here and there. 3) ARR was given Koun hai yada jo har pal aye, yada woh aye tho ake na jaye But he smartly and heavenly uses the same line to be repeated by Alka after Sonu finishes the same line. 4) The second para he starts with a new tune meri sadayein , tujho ko bulaye ever seen any MD havediff tunes from 2 diff paras ? very rare! 5) the aja re aja re part, so lovely 6) Usage of the tabla mixed with sizzles. 7) And last but not least, the usage of the flute again, during the end of the song! You have been hearing. All you have to do is listen :) But A R Rahman! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Vinayakam Murugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also my belief is that the fusion bits (addition of raaga and stuff) is done with a lot more sincerity by ARR than the rest. It doesn't sound pretentious like the rest. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ -- Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal rahit vyahvar mera Harivanshrai Bacchan -- On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED]gomtesh.upadhye%40gmail.com wrote: Pappu cant dance- The string bit in the begining along with the bassdefinetly ARR style Hawa Sun Hawa- The flute pieces, the aja re aja re repeats throught the songdefinetly ARR` On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED]vsrawat%40gmail.com wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
All, I am listening to ARR fairly recently only ( past 2 years ) and I haven't listened to the full spectrum of all his songs like most of you seasoned listeners here . One week I discover Roja and next week it is ADA and the week after that it is Duet and then it is Pray for me brother to give you sample of much I shift across the chronological order of his records. Coming to Hawa , sun Hawa , I did recognize that it was ARR's quite distinctively on the first listen. Saying just saying , the seasoned listeners have the extra burden of being familiar with all his previous works and expectations are also mile high. So may be it is just a classic case of wanting more from someone who is delivering consistently , but you are so used to consistency that it becomes a matter of fact and bar keep raising and raising from the receiving end ! Another thing I am amazed is , the rate of at which ARR churns out his songs. It is incredible ! Artists in this side of the world come out with albums after long gaps and release singles in between , but looking at the rate he delivers , I am not really sure how he manages. I was also told it is more do with the movie industry in india which churns out close to 1000 movies a year and that is a loot. Just my tots. Please dont bash me . I didn't mean any harm ! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:25 AM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
Hawa sun hawa 2:00 mins http://www.truveo.com/Ada-A-Way-Of-Life-Hawa-Sun-Hawa/id/1074059930 superb, excellent, astounding, lovely, a beauty to see. this lines was posted by the same rawat bhai..i dont know what he really is trying to do.. On 7/22/08, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
Hi Gomzy, Mahima and Vinayakam, let me give one parallel. You must have noticed that the starting part of Hawa sun hawa has similar arrangement as in - Sunta hai Mera Khuda (Pukar) - Maan tujhe Salam (Vandemataram) That is drum beats on a soft, fluid, vibrating, background, wavy, sound sort of. Now, listen to Sunta hai Mera Khuda or Maan tujhe Salam, and you can make out in flat 2 seconds (or less) that it is ARR's. Nobody else could do it till now. But, that same characteristic signature sort of feeling is not so noticeable in Hawa sun hawa, i think. One has to strive to find that it is ARR's. Such a lovely song hawa sun hawa is. Still, I feel some songs by other MDs had been there not so far below. Of course, no match as such but somewhat that type. btw, it could be the common singers using similar span of their voices. That is why I thought that lack of a clearcut ARR signature is causing his songs to loose their high, unique level and sounding similar to other MD's work. -- V On 7/22/2008 11:21 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote: I can understand for Pappu, but Hawa sun hawa Rawat! 1) The way the flute has been used throughout. 2) The piano bits here and there. 3) ARR was given Koun hai yada jo har pal aye, yada woh aye tho ake na jaye But he smartly and heavenly uses the same line to be repeated by Alka after Sonu finishes the same line. 4) The second para he starts with a new tune meri sadayein , tujho ko bulaye ever seen any MD havediff tunes from 2 diff paras ? very rare! 5) the aja re aja re part, so lovely 6) Usage of the tabla mixed with sizzles. 7) And last but not least, the usage of the flute again, during the end of the song! You have been hearing. All you have to do is listen :) But A R Rahman! On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:59 PM, Vinayakam Murugan [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also my belief is that the fusion bits (addition of raaga and stuff) is done with a lot more sincerity by ARR than the rest. It doesn't sound pretentious like the rest. Warm Regards ~~~ Vinayak http://theregoesanotherday.blogspot.com/ -- Main chupana jaanta toh jag mujhe sadhu samajhta, Shatru ban gaya hai chal rahit vyahvar mera Harivanshrai Bacchan -- On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Gomzy [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:gomtesh.upadhye%40gmail.com wrote: Pappu cant dance- The string bit in the begining along with the bassdefinetly ARR style Hawa Sun Hawa- The flute pieces, the aja re aja re repeats throught the songdefinetly ARR` On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:55 PM, V S Rawat [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:vsrawat%40gmail.com wrote: I am confused because my 16 years of ARR experience is has deserted me. The problem is: I am not able to find Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu Can't Dance of JTJYN and Hawa, sun Hawa of Ada. Pappu got hit like anything and it feels great that our man did a Muqqala or a hello doctor again. Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. In rest of the songs of these two albums, I could find the telltale ARR effect, but not in these two songs. I feel that these songs could have been as well composed by anyone else. No, not copy, no inspiration, no nothing. Just a genre, a level, just that others have given songs of that type in the past. If I am still not clear, you listen to first 1 second of Tu Hi Rey, and you can tell it it ARR's. No, not memory, but the effect, the sound, the level. Nobody but ARR could have created it. Nobody could in last 10 years, even with inspiration from ARR. I have listened these two songs many times, still, I could not identify that ARR effect in these two. Could anyone help me here. Which part of Pappu and Hawa hold the telltale Signature that ARR is known for and that no one else could create so far? -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
On 7/23/2008 12:05 AM India Time, _Mohamed Hashir_ wrote: Hawa sun hawa 2:00 mins http://www.truveo.com/Ada-A-Way-Of-Life-Hawa-Sun-Hawa/id/1074059930 superb, excellent, astounding, lovely, a beauty to see. this lines was posted by the same rawat bhai..i dont know what he really is trying to do.. Yaar, why you guys see smoke and fire all the time. Even in this thread, I wrote: Hawa, sun hawa is so calm and cool, so soothing, subtle like Water songs, it is a pleasure to listen to it. so, I like this song so much. And that is why I am investigating upon it. I am just saying that ARR's signatures are not so obvious in this song. That is all. I am not saying that this song is bad or anything like this. -- V
Re: [arr] Where is Rahman's SIGNATURE in Pappu and Hawa songs?
On 7/23/2008 1:10 AM India Time, _V S Rawat_ wrote: - Sunta hai Mera Khuda (Pukar) - Maan tujhe Salam (Vandemataram) - Hawa sun hawa One more thought. Take the above three songs and the following two non-ARR songs: - Resham si hain ye hawaayein sanam (Mere Yaar Ki Shaadi Hai) - Goonji si hai saari fizaa jaisi bajti ho (Kyun! Ho Gaya Na) Now, if I have to arrange them in a list on the basis of having obvious ARR signature or not, my order will be: 1. Maan Tujhe Salaam - definitely have it. No doubt about it. 2. Sunta hai Mera Khuda - definitely have it. No doubt about it. 3. Goonji si hai saari fizaa jaisi bajti ho 4. Hawa Sun Hawa 5. Resham si hain ye hawaayein sanam 6. other good non-ARR songs which are even less obvious I think that in the 3rd song that is non-ARR, the soft start, the sargam chants at start and in the interludes, the mukhda - all that would an even stronger indication of it being an ARR song that the indication given by hawa sun hawa. -- V
