Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-06-03 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||



Thanks for the info man. I've seen the Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.Its a kinda weird movie, but I liked it!!! Carrey n' Winslet were awsome. I can't even imagine what kinda scroe a r r would have composed for this movie. ;-)  Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello Vishwesh,Yeah you wouldnt have heard of them.Psycho kinda directors if you what i mean ;)   Some of their best works,Michel Gondry-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.Spike Jonze-Corporate Ghost Guillermo del Toro-Blade II,Hellboy,Geometria .Cheers,   
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-06-02 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||



Huh? Never heard these names before. Can u give me some movie names?Tapey3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I'd rather see ARR compose for Michel Gondry or Spike Jonze orGuillermo del Toro. They're far more interesting directors.  "The search is more important than the destination "  - a r rahman - __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com 





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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-06-02 Thread Gomtesh Upadhye



Hello Vishwesh,

Yeah you wouldnt have heard of them.Psycho kinda directors if you what i mean ;) 
Some of their best works,

Michel Gondry-Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind.

Spike Jonze-Corporate Ghost 

Guillermo del Toro-Blade II,Hellboy,Geometria .

Cheers,

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Huh? Never heard these names before. Can u give me some movie names?
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-06-01 Thread Tapey3



I'd rather see ARR compose for Michel Gondry or Spike Jonze or
Guillermo del Toro. They're far more interesting directors.

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 Hello,
 
 Yeah Vishwesh ,ARR composing for Speilberg has always been my dream
.And hey
 how about him composing for M Night Shyamalan! that wud be great
too.(Newton
 Howard does right now ) .Any more thoughts on this? ;)
 
 Gomzy
 
 
 On 5/31/06, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I think you got me wrong buddy. When I said only he can break
  Spielberg-Williams combo I meant talentwise, he's that good. And
I too love
  Spielberg-Williams combo!! But just think for a sec Why Not? You
mentioned
  ARR-Mani combo, but for that to happen, Mani-IR combo had to
break. Breaking
  off Mani-IR combo was sad for many but look what happend after
that !!! The
  same thing could happen in Hollywood. So Why Not???
 
 
  *Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  Why to braek such beautiful combo?? Every combo has their own
beauty eg.,
  ARR-Mani combono one in earth can break that...ARR should
work in
  Holywood in his own style..
 
  And IMO there is lots of differences between inspiration and
  copyinganyone can be inspired by the good works of others...no
harm in
  that.it's very obvious that ARR is very much inspired by
Horner/Yanni.
 
  Have you noticed the live performance Chaiyan chaiyan at Dubai is
  inspired from the live performance of Love is all at the China by
  Yanni.Shhubha performed some shades of Love is all.again
a song's
  one min interlude from tajmahal is inspired from Horner's OST
from Mask
  of Zorrow...but these are mere inspiration, not copyingwe should
  understand that.
 
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-31 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||



I think yougot me wrong buddy. When I said "only he can break Spielberg-Williams combo" I meant talentwise, he's that good. And I too love Spielberg-Williams combo!! But just think for a sec Why Not?You mentioned ARR-Mani combo, but for that to happen, Mani-IR combo had tobreak. Breaking off Mani-IR combo was sad for many but look what happend after that !!! The same thing could happen in Hollywood. So Why Not??? Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Why to braek such beautiful combo?? Every combo has their own beauty eg., ARR-Mani combono one in earth can break that...ARR should work in Holywood in his own style..And IMO there is lots of differences between inspiration
 and copyinganyone can be inspired by the good works of others...no harm in that.it's very obvious that ARR is very much inspired by Horner/Yanni.Have you noticed the liveperformance "Chaiyan chaiyan" at Dubai is inspired from the live performance of "Love is all" at the China by Yanni.Shhubha performed some shades of "Love is all".again a song's one min interlude from "tajmahal" is inspired from Horner's OST from "Mask of Zorrow"...but these are mere inspiration, not copyingwe should understand that. Arijit  "The search is more important than the destination "  - a r rahman -
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-31 Thread Gomtesh Upadhye



Hello,

Yeah Vishwesh ,ARR composing for Speilberg has always been my dream .And hey how about him composing for M Night Shyamalan! that wud be great too.(Newton Howard does right now ) .Any more thoughts on this? ;)

Gomzy
On 5/31/06, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I think yougot me wrong buddy. When I said only he can break Spielberg-Williams combo I meant talentwise, he's that good. And I too love Spielberg-Williams combo!! But just think for a sec Why Not?You mentioned ARR-Mani combo, but for that to happen, Mani-IR combo had tobreak. Breaking off Mani-IR combo was sad for many but look what happend after that !!! The same thing could happen in Hollywood. So Why Not??? 



Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Why to braek such beautiful combo?? Every combo has their own beauty eg., ARR-Mani combono one in earth can break that...ARR should work in Holywood in his own style..

And IMO there is lots of differences between inspiration and copyinganyone can be inspired by the good works of others...no harm in that.it's very obvious that ARR is very much inspired by Horner/Yanni.


Have you noticed the liveperformance Chaiyan chaiyan at Dubai is inspired from the live performance of Love is all at the China by Yanni.Shhubha performed some shades of Love is all.again a song's one min interlude from tajmahal is inspired from Horner's OST from Mask of Zorrow...but these are mere inspiration, not copyingwe should understand that. 


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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-31 Thread avinash



My choice is Ridley Scott; remember Gladiator and Black hawk 
Down. He is master in blending BG scores with spectacular visuals. 
Currently Hans zimmer is Scoring the music for his films, and his 
style is similar to AR Rahman.

Also in Action category John Woo is best. You can see it in Face/off 
and 'Mission impossible II'. Most of his action scenes are in slow 
motion visuals in which music takes lead.

M. Night shyamalan is good too, coz he is Indian. His films are dark 
and full of mystery scenes in which ARR is master of. and I think 
one day definitely shyamalan will offer a film to ARR :)

Avinash

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 Yeah Vishwesh ,ARR composing for Speilberg has always been my 
dream .And hey
 how about him composing for M Night Shyamalan! that wud be great 
too.(Newton
 Howard does right now ) .Any more thoughts on this? ;)
 
 Gomzy
 
 
 On 5/31/06, || V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I think you got me wrong buddy. When I said only he can break
  Spielberg-Williams combo I meant talentwise, he's that good. 
And I too love
  Spielberg-Williams combo!! But just think for a sec Why Not? You 
mentioned
  ARR-Mani combo, but for that to happen, Mani-IR combo had to 
break. Breaking
  off Mani-IR combo was sad for many but look what happend after 
that !!! The
  same thing could happen in Hollywood. So Why Not???
 
 
  *Arijit Debnath [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  Why to braek such beautiful combo?? Every combo has their own 
beauty eg.,
  ARR-Mani combono one in earth can break that...ARR 
should work in
  Holywood in his own style..
 
  And IMO there is lots of differences between inspiration and
  copyinganyone can be inspired by the good works of 
others...no harm in
  that.it's very obvious that ARR is very much inspired by 
Horner/Yanni.
 
  Have you noticed the live performance Chaiyan chaiyan at Dubai 
is
  inspired from the live performance of Love is all at the China 
by
  Yanni.Shhubha performed some shades of Love is 
all.again a song's
  one min interlude from tajmahal is inspired from Horner's OST 
from Mask
  of Zorrow...but these are mere inspiration, not copyingwe 
should
  understand that.
 
  Arijit
 
 
 
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

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You think we don't know that? I think you are commenting without hearing any of the mentioned pieces, am I correct? Cause' the pieces mentioned here are not "samples". ;-)VoiceScribe Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   In international market "Samples" tunes are available in a big way. Music composers use this in a big way.these are called "loops". That s why so many songs have similar "loops" in themARR also use this stuff. Nothing to be worried of.|| V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Gomzy, Ionly commented on the word "inspired" you used. Coz you yourself said it creates waves. So it was just a friendly advice  nothing more!! ;-)   
 And about the similarity issue,I'm going torefer toanother similar BGM which everytime reminds me of the RDBbgm pieceduring "Jalianwala Bagh massacre". Itis from the latest Steven Spielberg masterpiece Munich. It comes at the very start of the movie, when the Universal logo  Dreamworks logo is being shown  It continues until the visuals of the movie starts.  Believe me it is more haunting than RDB's.And guys, I'm not "suggesting" anything. So please stay cool. ;-)  "The search is more important than the destination "  - a r rahman -
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-30 Thread Gomtesh Upadhye



hello guys,

Sorry for using the term sample (though i used it as an english word).
Vishwesh i just wanted your feedback on this .I took that advice of yours da ; ) .Anyways its cool to see some postive activity happening in our group rather than comparisons with Brian Lara ! :D

Gomzy
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You think we don't know that? I think you are commenting without hearing any of the mentioned pieces, am I correct? Cause' the pieces mentioned here are not samples. ;-)
VoiceScribe Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
In international market Samples tunes are available in a big way. Music composers use this in a big way.these are called loops. That s why so many songs have similar loops in themARR also use this stuff. Nothing to be worried of.
|| V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Hey Gomzy, Ionly commented on the word inspired you used. Coz you yourself said it creates waves. So it was just a friendly advice  nothing more!! ;-)

And about the similarity issue,I'm going torefer toanother similar BGM which everytime reminds me of the RDBbgm pieceduring Jalianwala Bagh massacre. Itis from the latest Steven Spielberg masterpiece Munich. It comes at the very start of the movie, when the Universal logo  Dreamworks logo is being shown  It continues until the visuals of the movie starts.  Believe me it is more haunting than RDB's.


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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-30 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||



Hey Gomzy, you know what !! It's more similar to the one I mentioned [the Munich one] in my previous mail...hahaha. If u wanna checkout "Munich Alaap" here is the link:   http://rapidshare.de/files/21782918/Munich_Aalaap.mp3.html  But yes, it issimilar to arr's too, but IMHOarr'sis much more intense... So I think It's now high time for arr to step into Hollywood.  I really think that only he can break Spielberg - Williams combo !!!;-)Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:hello guys,Sorry for using the term "sample" (though i used it as an english word).  Vishwesh i just wanted your feedback on this .I took that
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-29 Thread Gomtesh Upadhye



Hello,

No comments anyone ? Ramesh or Vishwesh ?

Gomzy
On 5/27/06, Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello Guys,

Here is the Troy sample from the movie Troy(music:James Horner)which i told you reminds me of the RDB sample during Jalianwala Bagh masacre.(the lady wailing)

Incidentally this sample features when the Greeks are killing the Trojans .I have not used any words (like inspiration ) here as it tends to create waves.

Just listen to the two tracks and comment on what you guys think.Thanks for all your positive feedback.Cheers,

Gomzy

The links down below 

http://rapidshare.de/files/21474203/troy_bit_1_.wav.html


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Hey Gomtesh. Gud one da.. keep it up..Taking it positivelyeven ravis words

On 5/23/06, wrote: 





Hello Ramesh,

Thanks for the explanation.Very informative.Please dont get into the notion that i am taking this elsewhere.I just felt you people would want to check and some expert might comment.Please gimme a couple of days and i shall upload the Troy 
sample.Thanks,

Gomzy

On 5/23/06, Ramesh R  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote: 


I was prepared to ignore your mail after you mentionedsomething like this last time (msg #63501) but since you attached a clip I checked it out.Yes, the samples sound similar but a couple of things 
must be pointed out-The Horner part (trumpet) you are referring to is theinfamous 4 note danger motif that he uses very often. Just google for '4 note danger motif Horner'and you'll come across lots of examples. 
That being said the motif is not original to Horner.Check out the clip in the 1st track from -Rachmaninoff Symphony 1 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0I7WGIt's just 4 notes. It could very well be inspirationfrom Rachmaninoff... but I would say it is minor.I don't agree with your point about ARR being a fan of 
Horner. Lots of composers have used wailing motifs.I'm not sure what you're referring to about thewailing theme in Troy.Just FYI, Horner borrows a lot of stuff from classical music. Here's a discussion on that- 
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=29765forumID=1 
--- Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Guys and Gals, 
 When i first listened to the Provoked theme (Music bit 5),I knew i had heard  something like this before.After racking my brain hard i knew it wasstrikingly similar to one of the tracks the hunted 
  OST of Enemy at the Gates by James Horner. I have uploaded the track sample .Listen exactly at 33 seconds and 1.41seconds onwards.It lasts only for a few secs.I am no music 
 expert ,so cant tell what instrument is used by Horner here.(possibly some  kind of a trumpet or flute ) but ARR has used the violin. I am not hinting anything here.I just felt you guys 
 might wanna check out.Ibelieve ARR is a fan of James Horner .Remember  the lady wailing during the Jalianwala Bagh massacre ?Its again loosely based on a piece from Troy OST 
 again by James Horner.Will upload that, if you guys are interested.Pleasetake this positively .Cheers, Heres the Link,
http://rapidshare.de/files/21114197/James_Horner_-_Enemy_At_The_Gates_-_02_-_The_Hu-001.mp3.html  Regards Gomtesh V Upadhye__ 
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-29 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||



Hey Gomzy, Ionly commented on the word "inspired" you used. Coz you yourself said it creates waves. So it was just a friendly advice  nothing more!! ;-)And about the similarity issue,I'm going torefer toanother similar BGM which everytime reminds me of the RDBbgm pieceduring "Jalianwala Bagh massacre". Itis from the latest Steven Spielberg masterpiece Munich. It comes at the very start of the movie, when the Universal logo  Dreamworks logo is being shown  It continues until the visuals of the movie starts.  Believe me it is more haunting than RDB's.And guys, I'm not "suggesting" anything. So please stay cool. ;-)Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello, 
   No comments anyone ? Ramesh or Vishwesh ?Gomzy  On 5/27/06, Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hello Guys,Here is the Troy sample from the movie Troy(music:James Horner)which i told you "reminds me" of the RDB sample during Jalianwala Bagh masacre.(the lady wailing)Incidentally this sample features when the Greeks are killing the Trojans .I have not used any words (like inspiration ) here as it tends to create waves.Just listen to the two tracks and comment on what you guys think.Thanks for all your positive feedback.Cheers, 
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-29 Thread sriharsha24



OK,

The initial 20 sec. sounds similar. I would just wait for the film and
soundtrack released before I comment. Who knows.ARR must've
credited it or says a mere coincidence etc.

The thing is, Provoked is not a masala bollywood film. So ARR sure
does know about the music, when he's composing for an international film. 

I also remember that when I first saw the promos of a Mani ratnam film
Iruvar (Iddaru in telugu) on TV, it had soundtrack of Old Spice after
shave lotion ad. Thoug it may sound irrelevant of your pointI
wouldn't bother much, even if you can call 'inspired'. 

-Harsha 

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gomtesh Upadhye
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hello,
 
 No comments anyone ? Ramesh or Vishwesh ?
 
 Gomzy
 
 
 On 5/27/06, Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello Guys,
 
  Here is the Troy sample from the movie Troy(music:James Horner)
which i
  told you reminds me of the RDB sample during Jalianwala Bagh
masacre.(the
  lady wailing)
 
  Incidentally this sample features when the Greeks are killing the
Trojans
  .I have not used any words (like inspiration ) here as it tends to
create
  waves.
 
  Just listen to the two tracks and comment on what you guys
think.Thanksfor all your positive
  feedback.Cheers,
 
  Gomzy
 
  The links down below
 
  http://rapidshare.de/files/21474203/troy_bit_1_.wav.html
 
 
  On 5/25/06, Sirish Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Hey Gomtesh. Gud one da.. keep it up..Taking it
positivelyeven ravis
   words
  
   On 5/23/06, wrote:
  
Hello Ramesh,
   
Thanks for the explanation.Very informative.Please dont get
into the
notion that i am taking this elsewhere.I just felt you people
would
want to check and some expert might comment.Please gimme a
couple of
days and i shall upload the Troy sample.Thanks,
   
Gomzy
   
   
On 5/23/06, Ramesh R  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
 I was prepared to ignore your mail after you mentioned
something like this last time (msg #63501) but since
you attached a clip I checked it out.
   
Yes, the samples sound similar but a couple of things
must be pointed out-
   
The Horner part (trumpet) you are referring to is the
infamous 4 note danger motif that he uses very
often. Just google for '4 note danger motif Horner'
and you'll come across lots of examples.
   
That being said the motif is not original to Horner.
Check out the clip in the 1st track from -
Rachmaninoff Symphony 1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0I7WG
   
It's just 4 notes. It could very well be inspiration
from Rachmaninoff... but I would say it is minor.
   
I don't agree with your point about ARR being a fan of
Horner. Lots of composers have used wailing motifs.
I'm not sure what you're referring to about the
wailing theme in Troy.
Just FYI, Horner borrows a lot of stuff from classical
music. Here's a discussion on that-
   
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=29765forumID=1
   
   
   
   
--- Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   
 Hello Guys and Gals,

 When i first listened to the Provoked theme (Music
 bit 5),I knew i had heard
 something like this before.After racking my brain
 hard i knew it was
 strikingly similar to one of the tracks the hunted
  OST of Enemy at the
 Gates by James Horner.

 I have uploaded the track sample .Listen exactly at
 33 seconds and 1.41seconds
 onwards.It lasts only for a few secs.I am no music
 expert ,so cant tell what
 instrument is used by Horner here.(possibly some
 kind of a trumpet or flute
 ) but ARR has used the violin.

 I am not hinting anything here.I just felt you guys
 might wanna check
 out.Ibelieve ARR is a fan of James Horner .Remember
 the lady wailing
 during the
 Jalianwala Bagh massacre ?Its again loosely based on
 a piece from Troy OST
 again by James Horner.Will upload that, if you guys
 are
 interested.Pleasetake this positively .Cheers,

 Heres the Link,


   
http://rapidshare.de/files/21114197/James_Horner_-_Enemy_At_The_Gates_-_02_-_The_Hu-001.mp3.html
   



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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-29 Thread Roshan



Oh.. I only downloaded the file now.Yes. it is very much similar. this one is a bit slow. well .. it oculd be mere coicidence, or even inspired. and i think i have heard similar tunes before too.Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello,  No comments anyone ? Ramesh or Vishwesh ?  Gomzy On 5/27/06, Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hello Guys,  Here is the Troy sample from the movie Troy(music:James
 Horner)which i told you "reminds me" of the RDB sample during Jalianwala Bagh masacre.(the lady wailing)  Incidentally this sample features when the Greeks are killing the Trojans .I have not used any words (like inspiration ) here as it tends to create waves.  Just listen to the two tracks and comment on what you guys think.Thanks for all your positive feedback.Cheers,  Gomzy  The links down below   http://rapidshare.de/files/21474203/troy_bit_1_.wav.html   On 5/25/06, Sirish Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:   Hey Gomtesh. Gud one da.. keep it up..Taking it positivelyeven ravis words  On 5/23/06, wrote:   Hello Ramesh,  Thanks for the explanation.Very informative.Please dont get into the notion that i am taking this elsewhere.I just felt you people would want to check and some expert might comment.Please gimme a couple of days and i shall upload the Troy  sample.Thanks,  Gomzy  On 5/23/06, Ramesh R  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   wrote:I was prepared to ignore your mail after you mentionedsomething like this last time (msg #63501) but since you attached a clip I checked it out.Yes, the samples sound similar but a couple of things  must be pointed out-The Horner part (trumpet) you are referring to is theinfamous 4 note "danger" motif that he uses very often. Just google for '4 note danger motif Horner'and you'll come across lots of examples.  That being said the motif is not original to Horner.Check out the clip in the 1st track from
 -Rachmaninoff Symphony 1  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0I7WGIt's just 4 notes. It could very well be inspirationfrom Rachmaninoff... but I would say it is minor.I don't agree with your point about ARR being a fan of  Horner. Lots of composers have used wailing motifs.I'm not sure what you're referring to about thewailing theme in Troy.Just FYI, Horner borrows a lot of stuff from classical music. Here's a discussion on that-  http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=29765forumID=1  --- Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Guys and Gals,   When i first listened to the Provoked theme (Music bit 5),I knew i had heard  something like this before.After racking my brain hard i knew it wasstrikingly similar to one of the tracks "the hunted   " OST of Enemy at the Gates by James Horner. I have uploaded the track sample .Listen exactly at 33 seconds and 1.41seconds onwards.It lasts only for a few secs.I am no music   expert ,so cant tell what instrument is used by Horner here.(possibly some  kind of a trumpet or flute ) but ARR has used the violin. I am not hinting anything here.I just felt you guys   might wanna check out.Ibelieve ARR is a fan of James Horner .Remember  the lady wailing during
 the Jalianwala Bagh massacre ?Its again loosely based on a piece from Troy OST   again by James Horner.Will upload that, if you guys are interested.Pleasetake this positively .Cheers, Heres the Link, http://rapidshare.de/files/21114197/James_Horner_-_Enemy_At_The_Gates_-_02_-_The_Hu-001.mp3.html  Regards Gomtesh V Upadhye__  Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com  
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-29 Thread VoiceScribe Solutions



In international market "Samples" tunes are available in a big way. Music composers use this in a big way.these are called "loops". That s why so many songs have similar "loops" in themARR also use this stuff. Nothing to be worried of.|| V i s h w e s h || [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey Gomzy, Ionly commented on the word "inspired" you used. Coz you yourself said it creates waves. So it was just a friendly advice  nothing more!! ;-)And about the similarity issue,I'm going torefer toanother similar BGM which everytime reminds me of the RDBbgm pieceduring "Jalianwala Bagh massacre". Itis from the latest Steven Spielberg masterpiece Munich. It comes at the very start of the movie, when the Universal logo  Dreamworks logo is being shown
  It continues until the visuals of the movie starts.  Believe me it is more haunting than RDB's.And guys, I'm not "suggesting" anything. So please stay cool. ;-)Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hello,No comments anyone ? Ramesh or Vishwesh ?Gomzy  On 5/27/06, Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hello Guys,Here is the Troy sample from the movie Troy(music:James
 Horner)which i told you "reminds me" of the RDB sample during Jalianwala Bagh masacre.(the lady wailing)Incidentally this sample features when the Greeks are killing the Trojans .I have not used any words (like inspiration ) here as it tends to create waves.Just listen to the two tracks and comment on what you guys think.Thanks for all your positive feedback.Cheers,GomzyThe links down below http://rapidshare.de/files/21474203/troy_bit_1_.wav.html"The search is more important than the destination
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-26 Thread Gomtesh Upadhye



Hello Guys,

Here is the Troy sample from the movie Troy(music:James Horner)which i told you reminds me of the RDB sample during Jalianwala Bagh masacre.(the lady wailing)

Incidentally this sample features when the Greeks are killing the Trojans .I have not used any words (like inspiration ) here as it tends to create waves.

Just listen to the two tracks and comment on what you guys think.Thanks for all your positive feedback.Cheers,

Gomzy

The links down below 

http://rapidshare.de/files/21474203/troy_bit_1_.wav.html
On 5/25/06, Sirish Musician [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hey Gomtesh. Gud one da.. keep it up..Taking it positivelyeven ravis words

On 5/23/06, wrote: 





Hello Ramesh,

Thanks for the explanation.Very informative.Please dont get into the notion that i am taking this elsewhere.I just felt you people would want to check and some expert might comment.Please gimme a couple of days and i shall upload the Troy 
sample.Thanks,

Gomzy

On 5/23/06, Ramesh R  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote: 


I was prepared to ignore your mail after you mentionedsomething like this last time (msg #63501) but since you attached a clip I checked it out.Yes, the samples sound similar but a couple of things 
must be pointed out-The Horner part (trumpet) you are referring to is theinfamous 4 note danger motif that he uses very often. Just google for '4 note danger motif Horner'and you'll come across lots of examples. 
That being said the motif is not original to Horner.Check out the clip in the 1st track from -Rachmaninoff Symphony 1 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0I7WGIt's just 4 notes. It could very well be inspirationfrom Rachmaninoff... but I would say it is minor.I don't agree with your point about ARR being a fan of 
Horner. Lots of composers have used wailing motifs.I'm not sure what you're referring to about thewailing theme in Troy.Just FYI, Horner borrows a lot of stuff from classical music. Here's a discussion on that- 
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=29765forumID=1 
--- Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Guys and Gals, 
 When i first listened to the Provoked theme (Music bit 5),I knew i had heard  something like this before.After racking my brain hard i knew it wasstrikingly similar to one of the tracks the hunted 
  OST of Enemy at the Gates by James Horner. I have uploaded the track sample .Listen exactly at 33 seconds and 1.41seconds onwards.It lasts only for a few secs.I am no music 
 expert ,so cant tell what instrument is used by Horner here.(possibly some  kind of a trumpet or flute ) but ARR has used the violin. I am not hinting anything here.I just felt you guys 
 might wanna check out.Ibelieve ARR is a fan of James Horner .Remember  the lady wailing during the Jalianwala Bagh massacre ?Its again loosely based on a piece from Troy OST 
 again by James Horner.Will upload that, if you guys are interested.Pleasetake this positively .Cheers, Heres the Link,
http://rapidshare.de/files/21114197/James_Horner_-_Enemy_At_The_Gates_-_02_-_The_Hu-001.mp3.html  Regards Gomtesh V Upadhye__ 
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-25 Thread || V i s h w e s h ||



Gomzy, you shouldn't have use that word "Inspired". ;-)The Rock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  i dnt think at all... doesnt make any sense to me, both of theseare so much different than each other. cant believe... loo00lz, ta.--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi d" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey nothing wrong here from Gomtesh  Ramesh as well. could there bemore thoughts like this? its nice to have positive discussion here.  -R  On 5/23/06, Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   Hello Ramesh,   Thanks for the explanation.Very informative.Please dont get into the  notion that i am taking this elsewhere.I just felt you peoplewould want  to check and some expert might comment.Please
 gimme a couple ofdays and i  shall upload the Troy sample.Thanks,   Gomzy  "The search is more important than the destination "  - a r rahman -
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-25 Thread Sirish Musician



Hey Gomtesh. Gud one da.. keep it up..Taking it positivelyeven ravis words
On 5/23/06, wrote:



Hello Ramesh,

Thanks for the explanation.Very informative.Please dont get into the notion that i am taking this elsewhere.I just felt you people would want to check and some expert might comment.Please gimme a couple of days and i shall upload the Troy 
sample.Thanks,

Gomzy

On 5/23/06, Ramesh R 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 


I was prepared to ignore your mail after you mentionedsomething like this last time (msg #63501) but since you attached a clip I checked it out.Yes, the samples sound similar but a couple of things
must be pointed out-The Horner part (trumpet) you are referring to is theinfamous 4 note danger motif that he uses very often. Just google for '4 note danger motif Horner'and you'll come across lots of examples.
That being said the motif is not original to Horner.Check out the clip in the 1st track from -Rachmaninoff Symphony 1 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0I7WGIt's just 4 notes. It could very well be inspirationfrom Rachmaninoff... but I would say it is minor.I don't agree with your point about ARR being a fan of
Horner. Lots of composers have used wailing motifs.I'm not sure what you're referring to about thewailing theme in Troy.Just FYI, Horner borrows a lot of stuff from classical music. Here's a discussion on that-
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=29765forumID=1
--- Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Guys and Gals,
 When i first listened to the Provoked theme (Music bit 5),I knew i had heard  something like this before.After racking my brain hard i knew it wasstrikingly similar to one of the tracks the hunted
  OST of Enemy at the Gates by James Horner. I have uploaded the track sample .Listen exactly at 33 seconds and 1.41seconds onwards.It lasts only for a few secs.I am no music
 expert ,so cant tell what instrument is used by Horner here.(possibly some  kind of a trumpet or flute ) but ARR has used the violin. I am not hinting anything here.I just felt you guys
 might wanna check out.Ibelieve ARR is a fan of James Horner .Remember  the lady wailing during the Jalianwala Bagh massacre ?Its again loosely based on a piece from Troy OST
 again by James Horner.Will upload that, if you guys are interested.Pleasetake this positively .Cheers, Heres the Link,
http://rapidshare.de/files/21114197/James_Horner_-_Enemy_At_The_Gates_-_02_-_The_Hu-001.mp3.html  Regards Gomtesh V Upadhye__
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-24 Thread Ravi d



Hey nothing wrong here from Gomtesh  Ramesh as well. could there
be more thoughts like this? its nice to have positive discussion here. 

-ROn 5/23/06, Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hello Ramesh,

Thanks for the explanation.Very informative.Please dont get into
the notion that i am taking this elsewhere.I just felt you people would
want to check and some expert might comment.Please gimme a couple of
days and i shall upload the Troy sample.Thanks,

Gomzy
On 5/23/06, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
I was prepared to ignore your mail after you mentionedsomething like this last time (msg #63501) but since
you attached a clip I checked it out.Yes, the samples sound similar but a couple of thingsmust be pointed out-The Horner part (trumpet) you are referring to is theinfamous 4 note danger motif that he uses very
often. Just google for '4 note danger motif Horner'and you'll come across lots of examples.That being said the motif is not original to Horner.Check out the clip in the 1st track from -Rachmaninoff Symphony 1
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0I7WGIt's just 4 notes. It could very well be inspiration
from Rachmaninoff... but I would say it is minor.
I don't agree with your point about ARR being a fan ofHorner. Lots of composers have used wailing motifs.I'm not sure what you're referring to about thewailing theme in Troy.Just FYI, Horner borrows a lot of stuff from classical
music. Here's a discussion on that-http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=29765forumID=1

--- Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Guys and Gals,
 When i first listened to the Provoked theme (Music bit 5),I knew i had heard
 something like this before.After racking my brain hard i knew it wasstrikingly similar to one of the tracks the hunted  OST of Enemy at the Gates by James Horner.

 I have uploaded the track sample .Listen exactly at 33 seconds and 1.41seconds onwards.It lasts only for a few secs.I am no music expert ,so cant tell what instrument is used by Horner here.(possibly some
 kind of a trumpet or flute ) but ARR has used the violin. I am not hinting anything here.I just felt you guys might wanna check out.Ibelieve ARR is a fan of James Horner .Remember
 the lady wailing during the Jalianwala Bagh massacre ?Its again loosely based on a piece from Troy OST again by James Horner.Will upload that, if you guys are interested.Pleasetake

 this positively .Cheers, Heres the Link,
http://rapidshare.de/files/21114197/James_Horner_-_Enemy_At_The_Gates_-_02_-_The_Hu-001.mp3.html
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Re: [ARR]Provoked music inspired !!!!

2006-05-24 Thread The Rock



i dnt think at all... doesnt make any sense to me, both of these
are so much different than each other. cant believe... loo00lz, ta.

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ravi d [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey nothing wrong here from Gomtesh  Ramesh as well. could there be
more
 thoughts like this? its nice to have positive discussion here.
 
 -R
 
 On 5/23/06, Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hello Ramesh,
 
  Thanks for the explanation.Very informative.Please dont get into the
  notion that i am taking this elsewhere.I just felt you people
would want
  to check and some expert might comment.Please gimme a couple of
days and i
  shall upload the Troy sample.Thanks,
 
  Gomzy
 
 
  On 5/23/06, Ramesh R [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I was prepared to ignore your mail after you mentioned
   something like this last time (msg #63501) but since
   you attached a clip I checked it out.
  
   Yes, the samples sound similar but a couple of things
   must be pointed out-
  
   The Horner part (trumpet) you are referring to is the
   infamous 4 note danger motif that he uses very
   often. Just google for '4 note danger motif Horner'
   and you'll come across lots of examples.
  
   That being said the motif is not original to Horner.
   Check out the clip in the 1st track from -
   Rachmaninoff Symphony 1
   http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0I7WG
  
   It's just 4 notes. It could very well be inspiration
   from Rachmaninoff... but I would say it is minor.
  
   I don't agree with your point about ARR being a fan of
   Horner. Lots of composers have used wailing motifs.
   I'm not sure what you're referring to about the
   wailing theme in Troy.
   Just FYI, Horner borrows a lot of stuff from classical
   music. Here's a discussion on that-
  
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.asp?threadID=)765forumID==1
  
  
  
   --- Gomtesh Upadhye [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
Hello Guys and Gals,
   
When i first listened to the Provoked theme (Music
bit 5),I knew i had heard
something like this before.After racking my brain
hard i knew it was
strikingly similar to one of the tracks the hunted
 OST of Enemy at the
Gates by James Horner.
   
I have uploaded the track sample .Listen exactly at
33 seconds and 1.41seconds
onwards.It lasts only for a few secs.I am no music
expert ,so cant tell what
instrument is used by Horner here.(possibly some
kind of a trumpet or flute
) but ARR has used the violin.
   
I am not hinting anything here.I just felt you guys
might wanna check
out.Ibelieve ARR is a fan of James Horner .Remember
the lady wailing
during the
Jalianwala Bagh massacre ?Its again loosely based on
a piece from Troy OST
again by James Horner.Will upload that, if you guys
are
interested.Pleasetake this positively .Cheers,
   
Heres the Link,
   
   
  
http://rapidshare.de/files/21114197/James_Horner_-_Enemy_At_The_Gates_-_02_-_The_Hu-001.mp3.html
  
   
   
   
Regards
   
Gomtesh V Upadhye
  
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