Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-21 Thread V S Rawat
On 1/21/2010 9:06 AM India Time, _sunanthvn_1986_ wrote:

 when roja was done,wasn't arr an ameteur...the songs were ameteurish 
 too...since every song created a new genre by itself never heard before...so 
 they were amateur in the genre...
 soo glad that people feel the same after these years

You said it, Sunanthvn!

Seeing all these one sided replies criticizing reviewers who called it 
amateurish, I was thinking exactly that that you gave words to.

Why is being an amateur something negative, something degrading??? 
Amateur is antonym of professional. Amateur is fresh. Amateur is 
innocent. Amateur has not yet allowed his creativity got overtaken by 
the pressures of the market.

Nobody in his right mind can call ARR a non-professional in the 
positive sense of the word. A person with 18 year of proven history 
from one top position to another top position is a great, commendable, 
role-model professional. Every professional should follow him. So, if 
anybody is calling such a professional having created something 
amateur, and when you have heard VTV and know that it is not 
amateurish in the negative connotation of the word, then there ought 
to be some other meaning of the term that you have missed.

I think we should not try to give our connotation to every word we 
hear about ARR. People might be saying it in the right positive sense, 
buddies.

I haven't heard VTV yet, just analyzing the term.

--
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 --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gobi Kanadasan kgo...@... wrote:
 Maybe those guys are amateur in writing review. Those reviews are  
 negligible.

 --- On Thu, 21/1/10, ichord purev...@... wrote:

 From: ichord purev...@...
 Subject: [arr] I'm very confused about something.
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 2:41







 Â 



   


 
   
   
   I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full 
 throttle positive, which is fine.  People are entitled to their own 
 opinions.  But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the 
 web to describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish .   



 Am I missing something?  The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough, 
 thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty.  I don't know 
 based on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the 
 word amateurish.   If it was just one person who used this word, I 
 wouldn't care to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word 
 used by several (won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic 
 discussions) .  Someone just recently described the music of Hosanna as 
 amateurish.  Huh?  



 Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way?  If 
 you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.



Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-21 Thread ichord
LOL Srini!  Yes, I do!~ :)

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Srini saint.si...@... wrote:

 I think I can explain how everyone came up with the same word. They
 simply copied from the first guy :) You know how it works Chord, don't
 u?
 
 Cheers,
 Srini
 
  --- On Thu, 21/1/10, ichord purev...@... wrote:
 
  From: ichord purev...@...
  Subject: [arr] I'm very confused about something.
  To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 2:41
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full 
  throttle positive, which is fine.  People are entitled to their own 
  opinions.  But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the 
  web to describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish .
 
  Am I missing something?  The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough, 
  thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty.  I don't know 
  based on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the 
  word amateurish.   If it was just one person who used this word, I 
  wouldn't care to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word 
  used by several (won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic 
  discussions) .  Someone just recently described the music of Hosanna as 
  amateurish.  Huh?
 
  Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way?  If 
  you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-21 Thread Sreekrishnan R
That's the same thing happening with these guys in the case of NaNa also.

NaNa - Tamil Song - Oscar Nomination ~Sigh!

Even BBC reported the same! LOL

 

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From: Srini saint.si...@gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 21 January, 2010 9:02:36 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.

I think I can explain how everyone came up with the same word. They
simply copied from the first guy :) You know how it works Chord, don't
u?

Cheers,
Srini

 --- On Thu, 21/1/10, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: ichord purev...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [arr] I'm very confused about something.
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 2:41














   I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full 
 throttle positive, which is fine.  People are entitled to their own opinions. 
  But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the web to 
 describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish .

 Am I missing something?  The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough, 
 thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty.  I don't know based 
 on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the word 
 amateurish.   If it was just one person who used this word, I wouldn't care 
 to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word used by several 
 (won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic discussions) .  Someone 
 just recently described the music of Hosanna as amateurish.  Huh?

 Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way?  If 
 you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.





































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Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-21 Thread Roshan
I agree with Vithur, most of the reviewers are not really trained in music.
they are not qualified to criticize music

On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote:



 People who are unable to grasp the International Feel of VTV say
 thusThey are amateurish..




 On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:11 AM, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full
 throttle positive, which is fine. People are entitled to their own opinions.
 But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the web to
 describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish.

 Am I missing something? The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough,
 thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty. I don't know based
 on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the word
 amateurish. If it was just one person who used this word, I wouldn't care
 to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word used by several
 (won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic discussions). Someone
 just recently described the music of Hosanna as amateurish. Huh?

 Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way? If
 you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.




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RE: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-21 Thread murali ramakrishnan

i hear from many of my friends that they liked the vtv album very much anda 
special message to be noted is they like arr but not a die hard fans of him and 
they are praisinga lot about the music.
so it is a clear victory for arr
murali

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  I agree with Vithur, most of the reviewers are not really trained in 
music. they are not qualified to criticize music


On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Vithur vith...@gmail.com wrote:
















 



  



  
  
  
People who are unable to grasp the International Feel of VTV say thusThey 
are amateurish..
 


 
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:11 AM, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote:


  



I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full throttle 
positive, which is fine. People are entitled to their own opinions. But, one 
word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the web to describe some of 
the music on VTV is amateurish. 



Am I missing something? The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough, 
thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty. I don't know based on 
what type of perception that some people are coming up with the word 
amateurish. If it was just one person who used this word, I wouldn't care to 
mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word used by several (won't 
mention names or websites to avoid off topic discussions). Someone just 
recently described the music of Hosanna as amateurish. Huh? 



Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way? If you 
do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so. 





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Vithur







 









  








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Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-21 Thread V S Rawat
On 1/21/2010 9:44 PM India Time, _murali ramakrishnan_ wrote:

 i hear from many of my friends that they liked the vtv album very much and
 a special message to be noted is they like arr but not a die hard fans 
 of him and they are praising
 a lot about the music.
 
 so it is a clear victory for arr

may be, it is just that your friends dare criticize an Oscar winner.

:-) :-) :-) ha ha

 
 murali

--
Rawat


Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-21 Thread manisha madhavan
I think the people who write these articles are a bit 'amateurish' and cannot 
easily recognize and appreciate classy and 'mature' music :)





From: Sreekrishnan R rahmanfe...@yahoo.co.uk
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, January 21, 2010 7:52:41 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.

  
That's the same thing happening with these guys in the case of NaNa also.

NaNa - Tamil Song - Oscar Nomination ~Sigh!

Even BBC reported the same! LOL



Rahman fever ™
His Music ~ My Mother Tongue






From: Srini saint.sirin@ gmail.com
To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Thu, 21 January, 2010 9:02:36 AM
Subject: Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something... ..

I think I can explain how everyone came up with the same word. They
simply copied from the first guy :) You know how it works Chord, don't
u?

Cheers,
Srini

 --- On Thu, 21/1/10, ichord purev...@yahoo. com wrote:

 From: ichord purev...@yahoo. com
 Subject: [arr] I'm very confused about something... ..
 To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com
 Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 2:41














      I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full 
throttle positive, which is fine.  People are entitled to their own opinions.  
But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the web to 
describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish .

 Am I missing something?  The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough, 
 thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty.  I don't know based 
 on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the word 
 amateurish.   If it was just one person who used this word, I wouldn't care 
 to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word used by several 
 (won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic discussions) .  Someone 
 just recently described the music of Hosanna as amateurish.  Huh?

 Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way?  If 
 you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.


















    
















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Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-20 Thread Vithur
People who are unable to grasp the International Feel of VTV say
thusThey are amateurish..




On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 12:11 AM, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote:



 I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full
 throttle positive, which is fine. People are entitled to their own opinions.
 But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the web to
 describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish.

 Am I missing something? The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough,
 thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty. I don't know based
 on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the word
 amateurish. If it was just one person who used this word, I wouldn't care
 to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word used by several
 (won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic discussions). Someone
 just recently described the music of Hosanna as amateurish. Huh?

 Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way? If
 you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.

 




-- 
regards,
Vithur


Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-20 Thread Lux

And I am sure the person who writ these are
1. Either paid to
2. Or they have listened pirated version
3. Or they are musically challenged
4. Or they just want to differ

Imagine how they would have treated SDM music if it was an Indian  
movie..
Although despite Oscar some musicians did treat it as amature work...  
And they just want to differ... Any press is good press for these folks.







On Jan 20, 2010, at 10:41 AM, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are  
full throttle positive, which is fine. People are entitled to their  
own opinions. But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by  
some on the web to describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish.


Am I missing something? The music of VTV to me is very mature,  
thorough, thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty.  
I don't know based on what type of perception that some people are  
coming up with the word amateurish. If it was just one person who  
used this word, I wouldn't care to mention it and wouldn't care in  
general, but it's a word used by several (won't mention names or  
websites to avoid off topic discussions). Someone just recently  
described the music of Hosanna as amateurish. Huh?


Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this  
way?  If you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you  
think so.





Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-20 Thread Gobi Kanadasan
Maybe those guys are amateur in writing review. Those reviews are  negligible.

--- On Thu, 21/1/10, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: ichord purev...@yahoo.com
Subject: [arr] I'm very confused about something.
To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 2:41







 



  



  
  
  I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full 
throttle positive, which is fine.  People are entitled to their own opinions.  
But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the web to 
describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish .   



Am I missing something?  The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough, 
thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty.  I don't know based 
on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the word 
amateurish.   If it was just one person who used this word, I wouldn't care 
to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word used by several 
(won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic discussions) .  Someone 
just recently described the music of Hosanna as amateurish.  Huh?  



Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way?  If you 
do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.  






 





 



  






  

Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-20 Thread sunanthvn_1986
when roja was done,wasn't arr an ameteur...the songs were ameteurish 
too...since every song created a new genre by itself never heard before...so 
they were amateur in the genre...
soo glad that people feel the same after these years

--- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Gobi Kanadasan kgo...@... wrote:

 Maybe those guys are amateur in writing review. Those reviews are  
 negligible.
 
 --- On Thu, 21/1/10, ichord purev...@... wrote:
 
 From: ichord purev...@...
 Subject: [arr] I'm very confused about something.
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 2:41
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full 
 throttle positive, which is fine.  People are entitled to their own opinions. 
  But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the web to 
 describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish .   
 
 
 
 Am I missing something?  The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough, 
 thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty.  I don't know based 
 on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the word 
 amateurish.   If it was just one person who used this word, I wouldn't care 
 to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word used by several 
 (won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic discussions) .  Someone 
 just recently described the music of Hosanna as amateurish.  Huh?  
 
 
 
 Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way?  If 
 you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.





Re: [arr] I'm very confused about something.....

2010-01-20 Thread Srini
I think I can explain how everyone came up with the same word. They
simply copied from the first guy :) You know how it works Chord, don't
u?

Cheers,
Srini

 --- On Thu, 21/1/10, ichord purev...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: ichord purev...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [arr] I'm very confused about something.
 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Thursday, 21 January, 2010, 2:41














   I've checked various VTV reviews abound, and not all reviews are full 
 throttle positive, which is fine.  People are entitled to their own opinions. 
  But, one word that I'm seeing being thrown around by some on the web to 
 describe some of the music on VTV is amateurish .

 Am I missing something?  The music of VTV to me is very mature, thorough, 
 thoughtful, deep, intricate, purposeful, and very crafty.  I don't know based 
 on what type of perception that some people are coming up with the word 
 amateurish.   If it was just one person who used this word, I wouldn't care 
 to mention it and wouldn't care in general, but it's a word used by several 
 (won't mention names or websites to avoid off topic discussions) .  Someone 
 just recently described the music of Hosanna as amateurish.  Huh?

 Can anyone throw some light onto this? Does anyone else feel this way?  If 
 you do, that's fine, I would just like to know why you think so.


















 


















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