Re: Setting Date Format To yyyy-mm-dd Site Wide

2007-12-20 Thread Åke Borgström
Use INIT-FORM, and create a link that fires on window open with two
actions:

Run Process: PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20129 0 and Run Process:
PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20122 /MM/dd

/Ake

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Re: ARS7.1 User Form, Last Password change for policy date 1/01/1970 invalid and read-only.

2007-12-20 Thread Mike

Joe D'Souza wrote:

**
Yes I would correct it directly at DB level since its not a really 
critical error and only a data issue... since that date field is not a 
part of the user_cache, it doesn't matter if you correct it from the 
DB level as you do not have to modify the corresponding entry in the 
user_cache table to sync the information from the user schema to its 
cache.. 


Thanks Joe. Though I'll need to read some more before I really 
understand that.

That leaves me with two problems in Remedy:

1) the date field is not set correctly, but set to epoch-zero, when a 
password is changed.

2) Remedy is generating an error from a perfectly valid date.

To debug, I edited the User form to make that Last-Password-Change date 
field read/write and show date and time (don't hide time).
  Surprisingly, this was enough to stop the error message, without 
changing any data.
The date now reads 1/01/1970 8:00:00 AM  (ie midnight GMT) , which is 
accepted, where 1/01/1970 is not.
It seems that remedy is getting rather confused over the use of dates vs 
date/time-stamp.
For some reason (seems odd to me), it is parsing the displayed (rather 
than full underlying) value of the read-only date field 1/01/1970 in 
my local time zone, and converting it to a POSIX timestamp, which fails 
(or yields a negative number?).
 i.e. inconsist (and unnecessary?) forward and back-conversion, turns a 
'zero' date into a negative one.

This bug will not show up for those of you behind GMT.

Now I just have to figure out #1) above. Why is the date field being set 
wrongly?
At first glance the workflow is just setting the field to $DATE$ - how 
can that go wrong?


I've just been told that all this is new in 7.1, and I should go look 
for the latest patch.

Whats the chances that this is related to date-format in locale?

regards, Mike



Cheers
 
Joe
 
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1/01/1970 invalid and read-only.


Hi, newbie here,

I have installed the 7.1 server on Win32 with MS-SQL and midtier.
When I tried to make a change to the 'Demo' user in the User form of the
admin console, I get an error:
Format of date or time value is not recognized. : Last Password Change
For Policy (ARERR 9376)
The value is 1/01/1970, possibly an integer 0 or 1 in the database?
While wrong, it hardly seems invalid. But I'm not allowed to make any
changes to the request.

I was able to create a new user, and that field was blank. But after I
set a password for the new user (login and password link from home
page), the user also has a 1/01/1970 value in that field, so the
record cannot be edited.

1) Why is the date not being set correctly (to today)?  or how would i
try to find out?

2) Why is that date invalid? Maybe I'm not seeing the real bad value. Is
it that string that is bad,  or an ARS bug that shows that date for
invalid values? (same problem in midtier and ARS_User.)

3) How do you generally deal with read-only invalid fields? Must I talk
SQL direct to the database?

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Re: Setting Date Format To yyyy-mm-dd Site Wide

2007-12-20 Thread Rahul Takle
Where can I find the INIT-FORM form.

Is it a BMC Remedy ARS provided form.

Please let me know.

Thanks

Rahul

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Use INIT-FORM, and create a link that fires on window open with two
actions:

Run Process: PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20129 0 and Run Process:
PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20122 /MM/dd

/Ake

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Re: Setting Date Format To yyyy-mm-dd Site Wide

2007-12-20 Thread Åke Borgström
Rahul

Create a new form and modify
ar.cfg (on server) add one entry:
Init-Form: Form Name

This form will open and close (not visible) and you can use it to create
workflow on login to the client (not web). 

/Ake

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Where can I find the INIT-FORM form.

Is it a BMC Remedy ARS provided form.

Please let me know.

Thanks

Rahul

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Use INIT-FORM, and create a link that fires on window open with two
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Run Process: PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20129 0 and Run Process:
PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20122 /MM/dd

/Ake


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Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the number of values returned

2007-12-20 Thread J.T. Shyman
Anesh,

The first line of the log seems to indicate the ARServer process is
crashing: 

Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)

which should cause it to restart and cause a short outage while armonitor
restarts it. The 11 on the second line indicates a segmentation fault
(crash). Unfortunately, these can sometimes be hard to track down causes
for. The unable to thread local storage is a symptom of ARServer crashing,
not a different problem, most likely.

Let me ask this: Is this a new system or one that has been running
well for a while and just recently started getting these errors? Are there
any firewalls or network appliances between the Oracle server and the ARS
server? 


J.T. Shyman
Column Technologies

 
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the
number of values returned

Hi All,

I have an ARS 7.0.1 running on Oracle 10. I receive this strange error
when trying to log in thru the User Tool or Admin Tool. Not every user
gets this error when trying to log in. And when the server is restarted
then the error goes and comes back after sometime. Has any one faced the
same problem? When we went thru the arerror.log
We got the below error, which takes places exactly when a user tries to
log in to the system. If anyone has earlier faced this or has any
solution to it kindly update me.


Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 11
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated -- fatal error
encountered (ARNOTE 21)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : Unable to access thread local storage.
(ARERR 8747)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 WriteWorkflowTraceLog()
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : Unable to access thread local storage.
(ARERR 8747)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 WriteWorkflowTraceLog()
:

Thanks and regards
Anesh A Kurian


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Re: Setting Date Format To yyyy-mm-dd Site Wide

2007-12-20 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi Rahul,

You define your own InitForm. Just edit the ar.conf-file on the server and
add a riw like this:
Init-Form: TheFormNameOfYourChoise

This will open the form without displaying it whenever a user logs in.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

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Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Where can I find the INIT-FORM form.

 Is it a BMC Remedy ARS provided form.

 Please let me know.

 Thanks

 Rahul

 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Åke Borgström
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:09 PM
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 Subject: Re: Setting Date Format To -mm-dd Site Wide


 Use INIT-FORM, and create a link that fires on window open with two
 actions:

 Run Process: PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20129 0 and Run Process:
 PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20122 /MM/dd

 /Ake

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Re: Setting Date Format To yyyy-mm-dd Site Wide

2007-12-20 Thread Barber, Dave
Found the InitForm several years ago, it opened up a wealth of possibilities 
for startup related tasks.

I think I possibly started to abuse it though ;-) 

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On Behalf Of Misi Mladoniczky
Sent: 20 December 2007 11:14
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Setting Date Format To -mm-dd Site Wide

Hi Rahul,

You define your own InitForm. Just edit the ar.conf-file on the server and add 
a riw like this:
Init-Form: TheFormNameOfYourChoise

This will open the form without displaying it whenever a user logs in.

Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://www.rrr.se

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Find these products, and many free tools and utilities, at http://rrr.se.

 Where can I find the INIT-FORM form.

 Is it a BMC Remedy ARS provided form.

 Please let me know.

 Thanks

 Rahul

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Åke Borgström
 Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:09 PM
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 Subject: Re: Setting Date Format To -mm-dd Site Wide


 Use INIT-FORM, and create a link that fires on window open with two
 actions:

 Run Process: PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20129 0 and Run Process:
 PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20122 /MM/dd

 /Ake

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Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the number of values returned

2007-12-20 Thread J.T. Shyman
Unfortunately, this isn't an easy issue to solve. Segmentation Faults can
happen for a variety of reasons from bad software to bad hardware to
transient errors in RAM or on disks.

Since this has been running for some time and is only happening to certain
users my next question would be: Has anything changed on the profile of the
users who are experiencing this issue? You may want to try clearing the
client-side cache on the system of a user who is having this problem. It may
help, it may not. 

Next, I'd try uninstalling and reinstalling the client tools for the user
with this problem. Make sure the version you install matches the version and
patch level of the server. 

Hope that helps.

J.T. Shyman
Column Technologies

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the
number of values returned

Hi Shyman,

Well the system is one which has been running fine for sometime. It's
suddenly that this error started to come. There is not firewall between
the DB as the DB and ARS server are on the same network.

Is there any way we can stop this behaviour? I would appreciate if you
could give some tips or work around.

Thanks and regards,

Anesh A Kurian


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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than
the number of values returned

Anesh,

The first line of the log seems to indicate the ARServer process
is
crashing: 

Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)

which should cause it to restart and cause a short outage while
armonitor
restarts it. The 11 on the second line indicates a segmentation fault
(crash). Unfortunately, these can sometimes be hard to track down causes
for. The unable to thread local storage is a symptom of ARServer
crashing,
not a different problem, most likely.

Let me ask this: Is this a new system or one that has been
running
well for a while and just recently started getting these errors? Are
there
any firewalls or network appliances between the Oracle server and the
ARS
server? 


J.T. Shyman
Column Technologies

 
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:06 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the
number of values returned

Hi All,

I have an ARS 7.0.1 running on Oracle 10. I receive this strange error
when trying to log in thru the User Tool or Admin Tool. Not every user
gets this error when trying to log in. And when the server is restarted
then the error goes and comes back after sometime. Has any one faced the
same problem? When we went thru the arerror.log
We got the below error, which takes places exactly when a user tries to
log in to the system. If anyone has earlier faced this or has any
solution to it kindly update me.


Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 11
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated -- fatal error
encountered (ARNOTE 21)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : Unable to access thread local storage.
(ARERR 8747)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 WriteWorkflowTraceLog()
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : Unable to access thread local storage.
(ARERR 8747)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 WriteWorkflowTraceLog()
:

Thanks and regards
Anesh A Kurian



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Re: Setting Date Format To yyyy-mm-dd Site Wide

2007-12-20 Thread Åke Borgström
Made a misstake, the second run process should be:

Run Process: PERFORM-ACTION-SET-PREFERENCE 20122 -MM-dd 

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CMDB 1.1 Patch 002 or Patch 005

2007-12-20 Thread Dudley, Joelie
I have a situation where the class manager does not work in our
environment on two of our servers.

We are running ARS 6.3 patch 20, ITSM 6.0, CMDB 1.1 patch 005 on a
windows 2003 server with MSSQL2000.

We go into Class Manager and add an attribute to a class, the change
pending appears but nothing starts the process.  It was working at one
time under CMDB 1.1 patch 002, then we had an issue with a timeout on
the database while updating the class manager and since then it stopped.
So we found some bugs in which patch 005 was to fix and on one of the
servers it worked.  On the other one it did not.

There are no errors populating to the arrecond.log or arerror.log.


Any ideas of what I can look for?

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Business Time Run Process Set field potential failure.

2007-12-20 Thread Stuart Dubberley
I wondered if anyone could help me?

We have workflow that resets sla targets on our bespoke system that 
utilises business Time. We are using version 7.0.1 but we are not using 
the new business time and all the workflow was created in version 4.5. 
Sometimes these times do not get updated when other times they do not. 
Could this be a problem with the process not completing, if so is their a 
way that we can could capture this failure without having all logging 
switched on. We have tried to replicate on our testing system but cannot.

Regards

Stuart

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QUESTION: Table

2007-12-20 Thread Rob Cvetkovski
I have two forms, Form A with a few fields on it - 3 of the fields are
Display Only.  When the user enters the data into the 3 display only
fields and hit a button that I created it pushes those 3 display only
fields off to Form B.  This works perfect. 
 
Next I have a table on Form A that shows the records from Form B,
again this works perfect.
 
What I am trying to do is when the user clicks on a row in the table and
below the table they click on a button called View I want it to open a
dialog window with the data of the record they selected.  This is where
I am having issues.
 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks!
 
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Re: QUESTION: Table

2007-12-20 Thread Joe D'Souza
Rob,

On the open window action of the dialog, pass the request ID from the table
field into the dialog on the Open action of the dialog, and have an active
link that executes on Window Open, and Runs If $OPERATION$ = DIALOG which
sets all the fields in the dialog where 'Request ID' = $Request ID$


Joe D'Souza


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Subject: QUESTION: Table


I have two forms, Form A with a few fields on it - 3 of the fields are
Display Only.  When the user enters the data into the 3 display only fields
and hit a button that I created it pushes those 3 display only fields off to
Form B.  This works perfect.

Next I have a table on Form A that shows the records from Form B, again
this works perfect.

What I am trying to do is when the user clicks on a row in the table and
below the table they click on a button called View I want it to open a
dialog window with the data of the record they selected.  This is where I am
having issues.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Rob
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Re: Consume AR System Web Services through .net framework 2.0

2007-12-20 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
In the Web Service XML Maps (both Inbound and Outbound) you can set both
the Nillable and MinOccurrs attributes for a field.   You can find more
info on this by pulling up the Help - Contents and Index in the Admin
tool and viewing the entry on XML editing.

Fred

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Misi,

Optional ( in ARS) does not translate into the Web Service universe by
default. I have no idea why they skipped that important attribute.
In XML there is a nillable attribute/concept that will allow the
element to not be there. It is my understanding that nillable allows the
XML element to have no contents.

Ref: http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-1/#xsi_type

xsi:nil

XML Schema: Structures introduces a mechanism for signaling that an
element should be accepted as *valid* when it has no content despite a
content type which does not require or even necessarily allow empty
content. An element may be *valid* without content if it has the
attribute xsi:nil with the value true. An element so labeled must be
empty, but can carry attributes if permitted by the corresponding
complex type.


While the XML minOccurs attribute/concept allows the element to not be
in the xml at all.( element/ vs )



However, I think the rub in this case is that in the Java universe (and
apparently in the .Net universe too) there are some data types that can
not be null. So I think the real issue is likely the XML dataType for
the element instead of these other issues. :) Maybe if you use a
dataType that is a full object instead of a primitive that would allow
Java/.Net to deal with an optional primitive data element. Maybe
integer would map to the object classes in Java/.Net?

Just a thought.

HTH.

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Re: Consume AR System Web Services through .net framework 2.0

2007-12-20 Thread Carey Matthew Black
Fred,

Yes.and...

I think the real root issue is really how ARS maps it's ARS field into
the XML universe.  ( Including the dataType, Nillable and/or minOccurs
properties.) Some dataTypes like int, in Java, can not be set to
null. However, again in Java, an Integer object can be null.

I think the root/general issue is how ARS _by default_ creates the
attributes in the inbound and outbound mappings for optional ARS
fields. It does not set Nillable or minOccurs  properties properly
(IMHO) and the dataType values may need to be adjusted too. ( Even if
only for better inter-operation with some environments. Generally
mapping to objects when you can produces better results in my
experience. I like to leave the primitives [dataTypes] to the
primitives [primitive primates]. :) )

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On Dec 20, 2007 10:04 AM, Grooms, Frederick W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 In the Web Service XML Maps (both Inbound and Outbound) you can set both
 the Nillable and MinOccurrs attributes for a field.   You can find more
 info on this by pulling up the Help - Contents and Index in the Admin
 tool and viewing the entry on XML editing.

 Fred


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 Subject: Re: Consume AR System Web Services through .net framework 2.0

 Misi,

 Optional ( in ARS) does not translate into the Web Service universe by
 default. I have no idea why they skipped that important attribute.
 In XML there is a nillable attribute/concept that will allow the
 element to not be there. It is my understanding that nillable allows the
 XML element to have no contents.

 Ref: http://www.w3.org/TR/xmlschema-1/#xsi_type
 
 xsi:nil

 XML Schema: Structures introduces a mechanism for signaling that an
 element should be accepted as *valid* when it has no content despite a
 content type which does not require or even necessarily allow empty
 content. An element may be *valid* without content if it has the
 attribute xsi:nil with the value true. An element so labeled must be
 empty, but can carry attributes if permitted by the corresponding
 complex type.
 

 While the XML minOccurs attribute/concept allows the element to not be
 in the xml at all.( element/ vs )



 However, I think the rub in this case is that in the Java universe (and
 apparently in the .Net universe too) there are some data types that can
 not be null. So I think the real issue is likely the XML dataType for
 the element instead of these other issues. :) Maybe if you use a
 dataType that is a full object instead of a primitive that would allow
 Java/.Net to deal with an optional primitive data element. Maybe
 integer would map to the object classes in Java/.Net?

 Just a thought.

 HTH.

 --
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 Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
 ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

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Re: Business Time Run Process Set field potential failure.

2007-12-20 Thread Robert Molenda
Hello Stuart;

We encountered this issue with version 6.3, in where no data was being
returned, or 0 was being returned.

We had to extend the logic, to test for 0 and/or NULL, and if so, then retry
the Business-time-XXX process.

We could never track back why the Business-Time-XX process was acting that
way, as it was very random in nature.

HTH
Robert

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 I wondered if anyone could help me?

 We have workflow that resets sla targets on our bespoke system that
 utilises business Time. We are using version 7.0.1 but we are not using
 the new business time and all the workflow was created in version 4.5.
 Sometimes these times do not get updated when other times they do not. Could
 this be a problem with the process not completing, if so is their a way that
 we can could capture this failure without having all logging switched on. We
 have tried to replicate on our testing system but cannot.

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Email Template .arm file, how to tell which fields are required/optional?

2007-12-20 Thread Jase Brandon
Hello All,
Does anyone know of a way to tell which fields are required/optional when
from the 7.0 Admin tool I perform a
Tools/Export Mail Templates .arm file for the form HPD:Helpdesk.
The only way I can currently think of is to physically touch each field from
the .arm file through the admin tool and document
which are required/optional. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Jase

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Re: Email Template .arm file, how to tell which fields are required/optional?

2007-12-20 Thread Michiel Beijen
Hi Jase,

You can't tell which fields are optional or required, even when looking at
the form through the admin tool.
The reason for this is that :
- even if a field is required, it can have a default value which causes that
you will not have to specify it
- there might be workflow checking for values in non-required fields and
throwing errors; this might even be only in certain conditions; e.g. a
Pending Reason should be filled in if the request has Status = Pending.

If you're using ITSM 7, you have the Incident_Create form which is
documented -- see the ITSM 7 Integrating document.
If you're not using ITSM7, you might want to create a form like that which
you document yourself; but that can be a lot of work depending on the
requirements.
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 Does anyone know of a way to tell which fields are required/optional when
 from the 7.0 Admin tool I perform a
 Tools/Export Mail Templates .arm file for the form HPD:Helpdesk.
 The only way I can currently think of is to physically touch each field
 from the .arm file through the admin tool and document
 which are required/optional. Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

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Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the number of values returned

2007-12-20 Thread Phil Murnane
Anesh:

What patch level of ARS 7.0.1 is running and what's your server environment 
like?  If the problem is happening to the same users every time, then you might 
check out the clients as J.T. suggested.  If it happens to different users but 
only occasionally, then I'd suspect the server.

One thing I've seen cause intermittent crashes in the past is if arserverd 
can't obtain temporary storage (due to disk full, directory deleted, etc) -- 
perhaps you'll want to chech this.

HTH,
--Phil

- Original Message 
From: J.T. Shyman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:19:59 AM
Subject: Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the 
number of values returned

Unfortunately, this isn't an easy issue to solve. Segmentation Faults can
happen for a variety of reasons from bad software to bad hardware to
transient errors in RAM or on disks.

Since this has been running for some time and is only happening to certain
users my next question would be: Has anything changed on the profile of the
users who are experiencing this issue? You may want to try clearing the
client-side cache on the system of a user who is having this problem. It may
help, it may not. 

Next, I'd try uninstalling and reinstalling the client tools for the user
with this problem. Make sure the version you install matches the version and
patch level of the server. 

Hope that helps.

J.T. Shyman
Column Technologies



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anesh A Kurian
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 6:07 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the
number of values returned

Hi Shyman,

Well the system is one which has been running fine for sometime. It's
suddenly that this error started to come. There is not firewall between
the DB as the DB and ARS server are on the same network.

Is there any way we can stop this behaviour? I would appreciate if you
could give some tips or work around.

Thanks and regards,

Anesh A Kurian


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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than
the number of values returned

Anesh,

The first line of the log seems to indicate the ARServer process
is
crashing: 

Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)

which should cause it to restart and cause a short outage while
armonitor
restarts it. The 11 on the second line indicates a segmentation fault
(crash). Unfortunately, these can sometimes be hard to track down causes
for. The unable to thread local storage is a symptom of ARServer
crashing,
not a different problem, most likely.

Let me ask this: Is this a new system or one that has been
running
well for a while and just recently started getting these errors? Are
there
any firewalls or network appliances between the Oracle server and the
ARS
server? 


J.T. Shyman
Column Technologies


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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 4:06 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the
number of values returned

Hi All,

I have an ARS 7.0.1 running on Oracle 10. I receive this strange error
when trying to log in thru the User Tool or Admin Tool. Not every user
gets this error when trying to log in. And when the server is restarted
then the error goes and comes back after sometime. Has any one faced the
same problem? When we went thru the arerror.log
We got the below error, which takes places exactly when a user tries to
log in to the system. If anyone has earlier faced this or has any
solution to it kindly update me.


Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated when a
signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 200711
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated -- fatal error
encountered (ARNOTE 21)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : Unable to access thread local storage.
(ARERR 8747)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007WriteWorkflowTraceLog()
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : Unable to access thread local storage.
(ARERR 8747)
Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007WriteWorkflowTraceLog()
:

Thanks and regards
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Re: Email Template .arm file, how to tell which fields are required/optional?

2007-12-20 Thread T. Dee
Jase - if you want to create HPD:Help Desk tickets you should use the
HPD:IncidentInterface_Create Form.

Ty



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 Does anyone know of a way to tell which fields are required/optional when
 from the 7.0 Admin tool I perform a
 Tools/Export Mail Templates .arm file for the form HPD:Helpdesk.
 The only way I can currently think of is to physically touch each field
 from the .arm file through the admin tool and document
 which are required/optional. Any suggestions?

 Thanks,

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incident email notification

2007-12-20 Thread Horrian, Hossein
Hi Everyone,

The email notifications that we receive has a link to the incident. Here
is the link: 

http://DIRemedy7SB:8080/arsys/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifie
rserver=DIREMEDY7SB.devcoc.caeid=NTS0366
http://DIRemedy7SB:8080/arsys/servlet/ViewFormServlet?form=NTE%3aNotifi
erserver=DIREMEDY7SB.devcoc.caeid=NTS0366  

For some reason the full name of the server (including the domain) is in
the link. This link would not work.  When I manually remove the
.devcoc.ca from the link I get the page referring in the notification
email. 

How can I fix this?

Thank you,

Hossein Horrian 

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dataset vs. namespace

2007-12-20 Thread Drew Shuller

Hello everyone,

I'm a little confused as to the difference between a dataset and a 
namespace. Any help? Thanks a bunch!


Drew
Tulsa, OK

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Re: QUESTION: Table

2007-12-20 Thread Dwayne Martin
Michael,

Good idea!

Thanks,
Dwayne

 Original message 
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:17:28 -0700
From: Durrant, Michael M. - ITSD [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Table  
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

I'm a fan of using col_tablename_columnname - it makes for easy
sorting in lists and I can tell what it's for just by looking at the
name. 

-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dwayne Martin
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:31 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Table

The column name for the Request ID will have a name like Column3.  In
order to make the workflow easier to understand  it usually helps to
rename it to something like Request ID col.

Dwayne Martin
James Madison University

 Original message 
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 10:05:00 -0500
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Subject: Re: QUESTION: Table
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG

   **
   Rob,

   On the open window action of the dialog, pass the
   request ID from the table field into the dialog on
   the Open action of the dialog, and have an active
   link that executes on Window Open, and Runs If
   $OPERATION$ = DIALOG which sets all the fields in
   the dialog where 'Request ID' = $Request ID$

   Joe D'Souza

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   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Rob
   Cvetkovski
   Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:48 AM
   To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
   Subject: QUESTION: Table

   I have two forms, Form A with a few fields on it -
   3 of the fields are Display Only.  When the user
   enters the data into the 3 display only fields and
   hit a button that I created it pushes those 3
   display only fields off to Form B.  This works
   perfect.

   Next I have a table on Form A that shows the
   records from Form B, again this works perfect.

   What I am trying to do is when the user clicks on a
   row in the table and below the table they click on a
   button called View I want it to open a dialog
   window with the data of the record they selected. 
   This is where I am having issues.

   Any help would be greatly appreciated.

   Thanks!

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Re: dataset vs. namespace

2007-12-20 Thread Axton
Dataset refers to horizontal partitioning of the CMDB data (CI A
belongs to dataset B and CI C belongs to dataset D).
Namespace refers to the vertical partitioning of the CMDB class
structure (Class X belongs to namespace Z).

Datasets are used to separate data within the CMDB.
The namespaces are used to define the source of the classes, for
example, classes included with topology discovery may belong to a
separate namespace than those that are included with the core CMDB.

Axton Grams

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 Hello everyone,

 I'm a little confused as to the difference between a dataset and a
 namespace. Any help? Thanks a bunch!

 Drew
 Tulsa, OK

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Re: ARERR [565] Index for value in SQL command is greater than the number of values returned

2007-12-20 Thread Axton
You need to generate a core dump and send it to BMC for analysis.
They should be able to use the core to get a stack trace and memory
map to see what is causing the fault.

Axton Grams

On Dec 20, 2007 5:06 AM, Anesh A Kurian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have an ARS 7.0.1 running on Oracle 10. I receive this strange error
 when trying to log in thru the User Tool or Admin Tool. Not every user
 gets this error when trying to log in. And when the server is restarted
 then the error goes and comes back after sometime. Has any one faced the
 same problem? When we went thru the arerror.log
 We got the below error, which takes places exactly when a user tries to
 log in to the system. If anyone has earlier faced this or has any
 solution to it kindly update me.


 Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated when a
 signal/exception was received by the server (ARNOTE 20)
 Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 11
 Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : AR System server terminated -- fatal error
 encountered (ARNOTE 21)
 Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : Unable to access thread local storage.
 (ARERR 8747)
 Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 WriteWorkflowTraceLog()
 Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007  0 : Unable to access thread local storage.
 (ARERR 8747)
 Tue Dec 18 13:25:45 2007 WriteWorkflowTraceLog()
 :

 Thanks and regards
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Name Parameter (UNCLASSIFIED)

2007-12-20 Thread FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

Does anyone know what a Name Parameter is? 

I've been doing Remedy ARS for several years now and I don't know what
they mean or I'm having a Senior Moment.

I am getting an annoying 

ARERR(102) Name parameter (or name field in a parameter) is empty

When I query an Audit Form. I have most all fields audited with Audit
and Copy

Thanks up front,

Gordon M. Frank
DISA\Verizon FNS
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

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file attachments - filtering extensions...

2007-12-20 Thread Coby West
Do you know if there is an OOTB way of filtering file extensions from being 
attached to your issue via Mid-Tier?  I know you can control the size but I 
don't see a built-in way of controlling what Mime types are allowed to be 
attached (or not allowed).
 
Thanks in advance for any help that can be given.
 
Coby

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Re: ITSM 7.0.03 and KM 7.2 just released.

2007-12-20 Thread Decou, Candace M
Yes, but be careful...my co-worker was looking into this just yesterday
and it seems that the ITSM 7.0.03 is intended for new installations
only, not for an upgrade path.  To get yourself to basically the same
place with a pre-existing ITSM implementation you should stay with
7.0.02 at Patch 6 (for now at least).  
:)
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Re: Name Parameter (UNCLASSIFIED)

2007-12-20 Thread Mohan Panchangmath
Hi Frank,

On the Audit form , uncheck the Advanced option if
already checked from the Table/Tree property tab of
all the tables and then see if you still get this
error on search.

Thanks,
Mohan



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 Caveats: NONE
 
 Does anyone know what a Name Parameter is? 
 
 I've been doing Remedy ARS for several years now and
 I don't know what
 they mean or I'm having a Senior Moment.
 
 I am getting an annoying 
 
 ARERR(102) Name parameter (or name field in a
 parameter) is empty
 
 When I query an Audit Form. I have most all fields
 audited with Audit
 and Copy
 
 Thanks up front,
 
 Gordon M. Frank
 DISA\Verizon FNS
 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
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Re: Name Parameter (UNCLASSIFIED)

2007-12-20 Thread FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED 
Caveats: NONE

This seems to have done it!!!

Thanks

Gordon M. Frank
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:48 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Name Parameter (UNCLASSIFIED)

Hi Frank,

On the Audit form , uncheck the Advanced option if already checked
from the Table/Tree property tab of all the tables and then see if you
still get this error on search.

Thanks,
Mohan



--- FRANK, GORDON CTR DISA JSSC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Classification:  UNCLASSIFIED
 Caveats: NONE
 
 Does anyone know what a Name Parameter is? 
 
 I've been doing Remedy ARS for several years now and I don't know what

 they mean or I'm having a Senior Moment.
 
 I am getting an annoying
 
 ARERR(102) Name parameter (or name field in a
 parameter) is empty
 
 When I query an Audit Form. I have most all fields audited with Audit

 and Copy
 
 Thanks up front,
 
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 DISA\Verizon FNS
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Re: Email Template .arm file, how to tell which fields are required/optional?

2007-12-20 Thread Michiel Beijen
I would add those new fields to the HPD:IncidentInterface_Create Form; i
guess that is the best option.

--
Michiel.

On Dec 20, 2007 5:37 PM, Jase Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** Thanks Ty and Michiel,
 We are using ITSM 7 and I planned to use the HPD:IncidentInterface_Create
 Form
 but was concerned because of our customizations (new required fields on
 HPD:Helpdesk)
 that the new create HPD ticket workflow would fail because I had required
 fields on HPD:Helpdesk that were not on HPD:IncidentInterface_Create form.
 I think I am stuck validing optional/required fields on the .arm file
 using notepad and just looking each field up through the admin tool. Make
 Sense?

 Thanks again! :)

 Jase


 On 12/20/07, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  ** Jase - if you want to create HPD:Help Desk tickets you should use the
  HPD:IncidentInterface_Create Form.
 
  Ty
 
 
 
  On 12/20/07, Jase Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
  
   ** Hello All,
   Does anyone know of a way to tell which fields are required/optional
   when from the 7.0 Admin tool I perform a
   Tools/Export Mail Templates .arm file for the form HPD:Helpdesk.
   The only way I can currently think of is to physically touch each
   field from the .arm file through the admin tool and document
   which are required/optional. Any suggestions?
  
   Thanks,
  
   Jase
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Re: Email Template .arm file, how to tell which fields are required/optional?

2007-12-20 Thread T. Dee
Jase - did you read BMC Remedy IT Service Management 7.0 Integrations?
This will help you with HPD:IncidentInterface_Create.

Ty



On 12/20/07, Michiel Beijen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** I would add those new fields to the HPD:IncidentInterface_Create Form;
 i guess that is the best option.

 --
 Michiel.

 On Dec 20, 2007 5:37 PM, Jase Brandon  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  ** Thanks Ty and Michiel,
  We are using ITSM 7 and I planned to use the
  HPD:IncidentInterface_Create Form
  but was concerned because of our customizations (new required fields on
  HPD:Helpdesk)
  that the new create HPD ticket workflow would fail because I had
  required fields on HPD:Helpdesk that were not on
  HPD:IncidentInterface_Create form.
  I think I am stuck validing optional/required fields on the .arm file
  using notepad and just looking each field up through the admin tool. Make
  Sense?
 
  Thanks again! :)
 
  Jase
 
 
On 12/20/07, T. Dee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   ** Jase - if you want to create HPD:Help Desk tickets you should use
   the HPD:IncidentInterface_Create Form.
  
   Ty
  
  
  
   On 12/20/07, Jase Brandon [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
   
** Hello All,
Does anyone know of a way to tell which fields are required/optional
when from the 7.0 Admin tool I perform a
Tools/Export Mail Templates .arm file for the form HPD:Helpdesk.
The only way I can currently think of is to physically touch each
field from the .arm file through the admin tool and document
which are required/optional. Any suggestions?
   
Thanks,
   
Jase
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Re: QUESTION: Table

2007-12-20 Thread Rob Cvetkovski
Thank you Joe. It worked like you said.
Quick question...when I make changes and the user hits the save button I
created, how can I get it to refresh the table when they hit the close
button in the dialog window?



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** 
Rob,
 
On the open window action of the dialog, pass the request ID from the
table field into the dialog on the Open action of the dialog, and have
an active link that executes on Window Open, and Runs If $OPERATION$ =
DIALOG which sets all the fields in the dialog where 'Request ID' =
$Request ID$



Joe D'Souza


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Subject: QUESTION: Table


I have two forms, Form A with a few fields on it - 3 of the fields are
Display Only.  When the user enters the data into the 3 display only
fields and hit a button that I created it pushes those 3 display only
fields off to Form B.  This works perfect.

Next I have a table on Form A that shows the records from Form B,
again this works perfect.

What I am trying to do is when the user clicks on a row in the table and
below the table they click on a button called View I want it to open a
dialog window with the data of the record they selected.  This is where
I am having issues.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Rob
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Charles Roth is currently out of the office.

2007-12-20 Thread Charles Roth
I will be out of the office starting  12/20/2007 and will not return until
01/02/2008.

I am currently on vacation and can be contacted by calling my cell phone
864 431 2961. If this is a Remedy related issue please contact the service
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Re: QUESTION: Table

2007-12-20 Thread Sam Ferguson
Rob,

A few options:

1)  The active link which opens the dialog window can then have a
change field action which refreshes the table field.

2)  Have the close button on the dialog send an event and have the
form with the table field have an active link run on event which
refreshes the table field.

3)  The action which opens the dialog can have a value mapped on
close, you can then have a second active link which checks the value
returned and refreshes the dialog.  If you take this approach then you
will need to have an active link on the dialog close button which sets
the field value mapped back to the parent form and performs a commit
changes action.

Option 1 is probably the easiest.

Sam

 

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** 

Thank you Joe. It worked like you said.

Quick question...when I make changes and the user hits the save button I
created, how can I get it to refresh the table when they hit the close
button in the dialog window?

 



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** 

Rob,

 

On the open window action of the dialog, pass the request ID from the
table field into the dialog on the Open action of the dialog, and have
an active link that executes on Window Open, and Runs If $OPERATION$ =
DIALOG which sets all the fields in the dialog where 'Request ID' =
$Request ID$

 

Joe D'Souza

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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:48 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: QUESTION: Table


I have two forms, Form A with a few fields on it - 3 of the fields are
Display Only.  When the user enters the data into the 3 display only
fields and hit a button that I created it pushes those 3 display only
fields off to Form B.  This works perfect.

Next I have a table on Form A that shows the records from Form B,
again this works perfect.

What I am trying to do is when the user clicks on a row in the table and
below the table they click on a button called View I want it to open a
dialog window with the data of the record they selected.  This is where
I am having issues.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

Rob

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Re: dataset vs. namespace

2007-12-20 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Very similar concepts that apply to different areas of object oriented world.
Each one acts like a boundary to define one universe.

Sorry, if you're not a fan of SAT, but let me try this--

Namespace : Dataset = Classes  Attributes : Class Instances (or Data)
or
Namespace : Dataset = Class Definition : Class Data
or
Namespace : Dataset = World in which data's structure is defined, named:
World in which actual data is stored

In other words, when you talk about two different namespaces, A and B, you
are talking about two separate and independent worlds in which you can
define entities (definition of your data's structure) separately. The
namespaces are independent of each other in the sense that you can define an
entity, say MyClassName, regardless of whether this name is already
defined in the other or not. Because they are separate worlds, for the
purpose of naming entities (entities=classes and attributes).

When you talk about two datasets...you are talking about two separate
containers to represent two different versions (i.e. data) of the same real
world object(s). For example, your Production dataset for CIs in CMDB
contain official CI details as they are recognized now. Your Discovered
dataset will have information about the same CIs, but as discovered by some
tool. They may or may not match.

In both datasets, you may have a an instance of a CI (.i.e. data about its
state at some point), say your laptop123. In production dataset, data
indicates that laptop123 is a healthy system. In discovered dataset, the
same laptop123 may be represented as a screwed up system on which your dog
last weekend spilled coffee and when you tried punching the dog, you broke
the CD drive, instead.

Note that the structure definition for both datasets (i.e. the class and
attributes definitions) are identical, so they would fall under the same
namespace.

I feel like writing more, so here it goes. :)

My Class Definitions (i.e. definition of my data's structure)
=
Namespace: MyPlayNamespace
 Class: Person
 Class Attributes:
   Name
   Attractiveness
   Money
   Cool Factor

Namespace: MySeriousNamespace
Class: Person (same name is allowed, because this is a different namespace)
  Class Attributes:
Ethnicity Name
Average Volume
Average # of Drinks Before Passing Out


My Class Instances (i.e. my actual data) 
=
Namespace: MyPlayNamespace
Class: Person

Dataset: young (this is one version of the real world entities, the
people; so young represents the version number for this collection of
data)

Data (this dataset has 3 class instances):
   Name: Rabi
   Attractiveness: High
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: High

   Name: Labi
   Attractiveness: High
   Money: High
   Cool Factor: Superhigh

   Name: Babi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: Superlow

Dataset: old (this is another version of the same real world entities)

Data (3 class instances):
   Name: Rabi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Medium
   Cool Factor: Medium

   Name: Labi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: Low

   Name: Babi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: High
   Cool Factor: Medium

--
The other namespace MySeriousNamespace that also has a class with the same
name, Person, can similarly have its data defined in more than one
datasets, with any names. Note that in this namespace, the Person
instances happens to represent different real world entities. It really
defines defines human ethnicities, not individuals like the Person class
in MyPlayNamespace

So, namespaces define totally separate universes.  Within each namespace,
for a given class(es), you can have one or more datasets, each dataset
representing data about the different versions (perhaps at different times,
or from different experiments etc) of the classes's real world objects.

I wrote too much. Now I want to stop.


Drew Shuller wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'm a little confused as to the difference between a dataset and a 
 namespace. Any help? Thanks a bunch!
 
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Re: OT: Rant - SLA - Change / Task

2007-12-20 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Not yet. But it will be built by Mid Jan. A colleague of mine will be working
on it. If he agrees, I will post some info.

I don't see it as a big deal. Laborious, may be, but nothing hard to
imagine. Basically copy stuff from another form, say
CHG:InfrastructureChange. First define the datasource in SLM. Then work on
the task form to add tab, tables, hidden fields and workflow...some filters
and active links, basically copy stuff from the other form. It will take
some time to get to stuff like using Notification Engine for notifications
rather than doing direct notify thru SLM's actions, but again the template
is already there, nothing to discover or design.

About BMC not supporting it. I would think they would support it as much
as they support any custom work and custom SLAs. They will try to help you
troubleshoot or may be give you some design ideas, but they will not
constantly hold your hand as you go thru the coding.  That's closer to what
their professionla organization does for a living. 

If somebody at BMC said they won't support it, it depends on how you worded
it and how they worded it and who at BMC did you talk to and what they ate
for breakfast that morning. I would be surprised to get an official no help
whatsover you are on your own position.




Rabi - i'm curious if you got this working?

Thanks!




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 Funny that you guys are talking about SLAs on tasks.
 We will be building just that fairly soon (in ITSM 7).

 I am not sure if it's a good idea or a workable idea.
 It was not my idea. But it's going to be built.

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Re: OT: Rant - SLA - Change / Task

2007-12-20 Thread Rick Cook
Rabi, when you do report back, I would be curious about the impact on the
performance of SLM that including this additional layer might create.  I
think you're right that developing the workflow isn't rocket surgery, but
we'll see how well SLM can handle having the heat turned up on it.

Rick

On 12/20/07, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not yet. But it will be built by Mid Jan. A colleague of mine will be
 working
 on it. If he agrees, I will post some info.

 I don't see it as a big deal. Laborious, may be, but nothing hard to
 imagine. Basically copy stuff from another form, say
 CHG:InfrastructureChange. First define the datasource in SLM. Then work
 on
 the task form to add tab, tables, hidden fields and workflow...some
 filters
 and active links, basically copy stuff from the other form. It will take
 some time to get to stuff like using Notification Engine for
 notifications
 rather than doing direct notify thru SLM's actions, but again the template
 is already there, nothing to discover or design.

 About BMC not supporting it. I would think they would support it as much
 as they support any custom work and custom SLAs. They will try to help you
 troubleshoot or may be give you some design ideas, but they will not
 constantly hold your hand as you go thru the coding.  That's closer to
 what
 their professionla organization does for a living.

 If somebody at BMC said they won't support it, it depends on how you
 worded
 it and how they worded it and who at BMC did you talk to and what they ate
 for breakfast that morning. I would be surprised to get an official no
 help
 whatsover you are on your own position.




 Rabi - i'm curious if you got this working?

 Thanks!




 On 12/12/07, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Funny that you guys are talking about SLAs on tasks.
  We will be building just that fairly soon (in ITSM 7).
 
  I am not sure if it's a good idea or a workable idea.
  It was not my idea. But it's going to be built.
 
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Re: dataset vs. namespace

2007-12-20 Thread Julio Verne Goncalves
I don't know if this will help, but here it goes...

Really not else to say in regards to dataset... Rabi is very correct in saying 
When you talk about two datasets...you are talking about two separate 
containers to represent two different versions (i.e. data) of the same
 real world object(s).

In terms of namespaces, it might help thinking that the namespace would be 
similar to using a reserved range of IDs for your new fields in AR or some 
particular naming convention for new forms you develop. Namespace is good to 
identify and separate the customisattion in your CMDB.

Again, hope this helps...

Julio

- Original Message 
From: Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, 21 December, 2007 8:24:20 AM
Subject: Re: dataset vs. namespace

Very similar concepts that apply to different areas of object oriented
 world.
Each one acts like a boundary to define one universe.

Sorry, if you're not a fan of SAT, but let me try this--

Namespace : Dataset = Classes  Attributes : Class Instances (or Data)
or
Namespace : Dataset = Class Definition : Class Data
or
Namespace : Dataset = World in which data's structure is defined,
 named:
World in which actual data is stored

In other words, when you talk about two different namespaces, A and B,
 you
are talking about two separate and independent worlds in which you can
define entities (definition of your data's structure) separately. The
namespaces are independent of each other in the sense that you can
 define an
entity, say MyClassName, regardless of whether this name is already
defined in the other or not. Because they are separate worlds, for the
purpose of naming entities (entities=classes and attributes).

When you talk about two datasets...you are talking about two separate
containers to represent two different versions (i.e. data) of the same
 real
world object(s). For example, your Production dataset for CIs in CMDB
contain official CI details as they are recognized now. Your
 Discovered
dataset will have information about the same CIs, but as discovered by
 some
tool. They may or may not match.

In both datasets, you may have a an instance of a CI (.i.e. data about
 its
state at some point), say your laptop123. In production dataset, data
indicates that laptop123 is a healthy system. In discovered dataset,
 the
same laptop123 may be represented as a screwed up system on which your
 dog
last weekend spilled coffee and when you tried punching the dog, you
 broke
the CD drive, instead.

Note that the structure definition for both datasets (i.e. the class
 and
attributes definitions) are identical, so they would fall under the
 same
namespace.

I feel like writing more, so here it goes. :)

My Class Definitions (i.e. definition of my data's structure)
=
Namespace: MyPlayNamespace
 Class: Person
 Class Attributes:
   Name
   Attractiveness
   Money
   Cool Factor

Namespace: MySeriousNamespace
Class: Person (same name is allowed, because this is a different
 namespace)
  Class Attributes:
Ethnicity Name
Average Volume
Average # of Drinks Before Passing Out


My Class Instances (i.e. my actual data) 
=
Namespace: MyPlayNamespace
Class: Person

Dataset: young (this is one version of the real world entities, the
people; so young represents the version number for this collection
 of
data)

Data (this dataset has 3 class instances):
   Name: Rabi
   Attractiveness: High
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: High

   Name: Labi
   Attractiveness: High
   Money: High
   Cool Factor: Superhigh

   Name: Babi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: Superlow

Dataset: old (this is another version of the same real world
 entities)

Data (3 class instances):
   Name: Rabi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Medium
   Cool Factor: Medium

   Name: Labi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: Low

   Name: Babi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: High
   Cool Factor: Medium

--
The other namespace MySeriousNamespace that also has a class with the
 same
name, Person, can similarly have its data defined in more than one
datasets, with any names. Note that in this namespace, the Person
instances happens to represent different real world entities. It really
defines defines human ethnicities, not individuals like the Person
 class
in MyPlayNamespace

So, namespaces define totally separate universes.  Within each
 namespace,
for a given class(es), you can have one or more datasets, each dataset
representing data about the different versions (perhaps at different
 times,
or from different experiments etc) of the classes's real world objects.

I wrote too much. Now I want to stop.


Drew Shuller wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I'm a little confused as to the difference between a dataset and a 
 namespace. Any help? Thanks a bunch!
 
 Drew
 Tulsa, OK
 

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Re: dataset vs. namespace

2007-12-20 Thread Drew Shuller
The reason that I'm asking is that we're using EIE to pull some data 
over from another database. If you're familiar with EIE, you can create 
AR mappings and also CMDB mappings. I created some AR mappings, 
which go to datasets, with no problems. Then, I started to create a CMDB 
mapping, but they go to namespaces. Now I have to create a class to hold 
my attributes, ect, whereas before I could just store my new data in an 
existing CMDB class.


Not that I mind creating classes, but I have more questions about 
reconciliation...you can reconcile data in datasets and you can reconcile 
data in namespaces?


Drew



inOn Thu, 20 Dec 2007, Julio Verne Goncalves wrote:


I don't know if this will help, but here it goes...


Really not else to say in regards to dataset... Rabi is very correct in saying 
When you talk about two datasets...you are talking about two separate 
containers to represent two different versions (i.e. data) of the same
 real world object(s).

In terms of namespaces, it might help thinking that the namespace would be similar to 
using a reserved range of IDs for your new fields in AR or some particular naming 
convention for new forms you develop. Namespace is good to identify and separate the 
customisattion in your CMDB.

Again, hope this helps...

Julio

- Original Message 
From: Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Friday, 21 December, 2007 8:24:20 AM
Subject: Re: dataset vs. namespace

Very similar concepts that apply to different areas of object oriented
 world.
Each one acts like a boundary to define one universe.

Sorry, if you're not a fan of SAT, but let me try this--

Namespace : Dataset = Classes  Attributes : Class Instances (or Data)
or
Namespace : Dataset = Class Definition : Class Data
or
Namespace : Dataset = World in which data's structure is defined,
 named:
World in which actual data is stored

In other words, when you talk about two different namespaces, A and B,
 you
are talking about two separate and independent worlds in which you can
define entities (definition of your data's structure) separately. The
namespaces are independent of each other in the sense that you can
 define an
entity, say MyClassName, regardless of whether this name is already
defined in the other or not. Because they are separate worlds, for the
purpose of naming entities (entities=classes and attributes).

When you talk about two datasets...you are talking about two separate
containers to represent two different versions (i.e. data) of the same
 real
world object(s). For example, your Production dataset for CIs in CMDB
contain official CI details as they are recognized now. Your
 Discovered
dataset will have information about the same CIs, but as discovered by
 some
tool. They may or may not match.

In both datasets, you may have a an instance of a CI (.i.e. data about
 its
state at some point), say your laptop123. In production dataset, data
indicates that laptop123 is a healthy system. In discovered dataset,
 the
same laptop123 may be represented as a screwed up system on which your
 dog
last weekend spilled coffee and when you tried punching the dog, you
 broke
the CD drive, instead.

Note that the structure definition for both datasets (i.e. the class
 and
attributes definitions) are identical, so they would fall under the
 same
namespace.

I feel like writing more, so here it goes. :)

My Class Definitions (i.e. definition of my data's structure)
=
Namespace: MyPlayNamespace
 Class: Person
 Class Attributes:
   Name
   Attractiveness
   Money
   Cool Factor

Namespace: MySeriousNamespace
Class: Person (same name is allowed, because this is a different
 namespace)
  Class Attributes:
Ethnicity Name
Average Volume
Average # of Drinks Before Passing Out


My Class Instances (i.e. my actual data) 
=

Namespace: MyPlayNamespace
Class: Person

Dataset: young (this is one version of the real world entities, the
people; so young represents the version number for this collection
 of
data)

Data (this dataset has 3 class instances):
   Name: Rabi
   Attractiveness: High
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: High

   Name: Labi
   Attractiveness: High
   Money: High
   Cool Factor: Superhigh

   Name: Babi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: Superlow

Dataset: old (this is another version of the same real world
 entities)

Data (3 class instances):
   Name: Rabi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Medium
   Cool Factor: Medium

   Name: Labi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: Low
   Cool Factor: Low

   Name: Babi
   Attractiveness: Low
   Money: High
   Cool Factor: Medium

--
The other namespace MySeriousNamespace that also has a class with the
 same
name, Person, can similarly have its data defined in more than one
datasets, with any names. Note that in this namespace, the Person
instances happens to represent different real world entities. It really
defines defines human ethnicities, not 

Re: OT: Rant - SLA - Change / Task

2007-12-20 Thread Rabi Tripathi
Will do Rick. 

So there are 3 things we want to know. How to build it? How does it impact
the system (this may be a relative thing)? And ultimately, does it do any
good? 

First one is easy to report. Second one will take a while to know because
SLAs need to be defined and then need to be used in production (unless its
so bad the dev system can't handle it). That's a few months away. The last
one will take still longer. 

So expect a quarterly report is what I seem to be saying. 



Rick Cook-3 wrote:
 
 Rabi, when you do report back, I would be curious about the impact on the
 performance of SLM that including this additional layer might create.  I
 think you're right that developing the workflow isn't rocket surgery, but
 we'll see how well SLM can handle having the heat turned up on it.
 
 Rick
 
 On 12/20/07, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not yet. But it will be built by Mid Jan. A colleague of mine will be
 working
 on it. If he agrees, I will post some info.

 I don't see it as a big deal. Laborious, may be, but nothing hard to
 imagine. Basically copy stuff from another form, say
 CHG:InfrastructureChange. First define the datasource in SLM. Then work
 on
 the task form to add tab, tables, hidden fields and workflow...some
 filters
 and active links, basically copy stuff from the other form. It will take
 some time to get to stuff like using Notification Engine for
 notifications
 rather than doing direct notify thru SLM's actions, but again the
 template
 is already there, nothing to discover or design.

 About BMC not supporting it. I would think they would support it as
 much
 as they support any custom work and custom SLAs. They will try to help
 you
 troubleshoot or may be give you some design ideas, but they will not
 constantly hold your hand as you go thru the coding.  That's closer to
 what
 their professionla organization does for a living.

 If somebody at BMC said they won't support it, it depends on how you
 worded
 it and how they worded it and who at BMC did you talk to and what they
 ate
 for breakfast that morning. I would be surprised to get an official no
 help
 whatsover you are on your own position.




 Rabi - i'm curious if you got this working?

 Thanks!




 On 12/12/07, Rabi Tripathi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Funny that you guys are talking about SLAs on tasks.
  We will be building just that fairly soon (in ITSM 7).
 
  I am not sure if it's a good idea or a workable idea.
  It was not my idea. But it's going to be built.
 
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Re: file attachments - filtering extensions...

2007-12-20 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

You could add a filter with an error message that runs if:
NOT ('Attach1' LIKE %.doc OR 'Attach1' LIKE %.xls OR ...)

You may also want to add a sore or less identical active link to stop the
attachments of being sent from Mid-Tier to the AR Server. It should be
triggered on Modify/Submit.

 Best Regards - Misi, RRR AB, http://rrr.se/sv/

 Do you know if there is an OOTB way of filtering file extensions from
 being attached to your issue via Mid-Tier?  I know you can control the
 size but I don't see a built-in way of controlling what Mime types are
 allowed to be attached (or not allowed).

 Thanks in advance for any help that can be given.

 Coby

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problem in Java Scripting Plug-in

2007-12-20 Thread rg25
Hi all.

I use Java Scripting Plug-in in the following structure (where '=' mean
call and return):
Filter=script=external  java application

All is OK if I return java primitives or their collection from external 
java application to Filter via script.
But now I need to return collection of java objects defined by user by the
same way.

This is description of Java Scripting Plug-in:
“Provide script source code that implements the script functionality. For
all languages, scripts can reference a collection named values which
contains any input parameters passed to the script. Any value assigned to
result becomes the output of the script. The result can contain a single
value (string, integer, etc.) or an array of values.”

How I have understood there is no chance to make it or I am not right? 
Probably is exists a similar plug-in with the expanded opportunities?
Can you help me to solve this problem?

Thanks in advance 



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