CMDB 7.5 Service Catalog Mapping

2009-05-27 Thread Peter Romain
Hi All,

In the 'BMC Atrium CMDB 7.5.00 Administrator's Guide', Chapter 4, you can
see how to map business services to technical services in the Service
Catalog.

If I try this on CMDB 7.5 Patch 1 I can get the technical services mapped
to business services in the Service Catalog of the CMDB UI.

However, if I close the CMDB UI and re-open it then the technical services
are no longer mapped.

At no time during this process do I see any relationships created in the
base relationship form.

Has anyone tried this and got the mapping to work?

WIN 2008
SQLServer 2008
CMDB 7.5 Patch 1
ARS 7.5 Patch 1

Cheers

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Re: CMDB 7.5 Service Catalog Mapping

2009-05-27 Thread Matt Worsdell
Peter

Am assuming you are doing this in your personal sandbox? Are you promoting
the changes to BMC.Asset at all?

Matt

 Hi All,

 In the 'BMC Atrium CMDB 7.5.00 Administrator's Guide', Chapter 4, you can
 see how to map business services to technical services in the Service
 Catalog.

 If I try this on CMDB 7.5 Patch 1 I can get the technical services mapped
 to business services in the Service Catalog of the CMDB UI.

 However, if I close the CMDB UI and re-open it then the technical services
 are no longer mapped.

 At no time during this process do I see any relationships created in the
 base relationship form.

 Has anyone tried this and got the mapping to work?

 WIN 2008
 SQLServer 2008
 CMDB 7.5 Patch 1
 ARS 7.5 Patch 1

 Cheers

 Peter

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Re: CMDB 7.5 Service Catalog Mapping

2009-05-27 Thread Matt Worsdell
Peter

Also can you confirm you have a Provider Organisation specified?

Matt

 Hi All,

 In the 'BMC Atrium CMDB 7.5.00 Administrator's Guide', Chapter 4, you can
 see how to map business services to technical services in the Service
 Catalog.

 If I try this on CMDB 7.5 Patch 1 I can get the technical services mapped
 to business services in the Service Catalog of the CMDB UI.

 However, if I close the CMDB UI and re-open it then the technical services
 are no longer mapped.

 At no time during this process do I see any relationships created in the
 base relationship form.

 Has anyone tried this and got the mapping to work?

 WIN 2008
 SQLServer 2008
 CMDB 7.5 Patch 1
 ARS 7.5 Patch 1

 Cheers

 Peter

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Supported Versions / FD / Patches

2009-05-27 Thread patrick zandi
Have a question: About support going back 2 versions right...
7.5.2 - minor
7.5.1 -- minor
7.5 --- Major
7.1 -- Major We are still here right? Put the X here.

Why is it then that the FD 1.6.002 Patch that just came out only works with
7.5 !
because they are no longer patching FD in version 7.1 !

What is the deal here !

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Re: CMDB 7.5 Service Catalog Mapping

2009-05-27 Thread Peter Romain
Matt,

Thanks for the replies. I take it you can create the mappings and see them
as relationship CIs?.

Yes I'm doing this in my personal sandbox and have organisations specified.

If I promote to the Asset dataset I can see the mapped technical services
there. However, if I close the UI then re-open it the mappings are not
there.

I'm beginning to suspect a background issue with the UI. In the query
console I can't pull down the drop-down arrow for a CI to create a
relationship.

Cheers

Peter

 Peter

 Also can you confirm you have a Provider Organisation specified?

 Matt

 Hi All,

 In the 'BMC Atrium CMDB 7.5.00 Administrator's Guide', Chapter 4, you
 can
 see how to map business services to technical services in the Service
 Catalog.

 If I try this on CMDB 7.5 Patch 1 I can get the technical services
 mapped
 to business services in the Service Catalog of the CMDB UI.

 However, if I close the CMDB UI and re-open it then the technical
 services
 are no longer mapped.

 At no time during this process do I see any relationships created in the
 base relationship form.

 Has anyone tried this and got the mapping to work?

 WIN 2008
 SQLServer 2008
 CMDB 7.5 Patch 1
 ARS 7.5 Patch 1

 Cheers

 Peter

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Re: CMDB 7.5 Service Catalog Mapping

2009-05-27 Thread Matt Worsdell
Peter

I've not tried it yet. I'm running Patch 1 so will have a go one evening,
if you don't sort it in the interim.

Matt

 Matt,

 Thanks for the replies. I take it you can create the mappings and see them
 as relationship CIs?.

 Yes I'm doing this in my personal sandbox and have organisations
 specified.

 If I promote to the Asset dataset I can see the mapped technical services
 there. However, if I close the UI then re-open it the mappings are not
 there.

 I'm beginning to suspect a background issue with the UI. In the query
 console I can't pull down the drop-down arrow for a CI to create a
 relationship.

 Cheers

 Peter

 Peter

 Also can you confirm you have a Provider Organisation specified?

 Matt

 Hi All,

 In the 'BMC Atrium CMDB 7.5.00 Administrator's Guide', Chapter 4, you
 can
 see how to map business services to technical services in the Service
 Catalog.

 If I try this on CMDB 7.5 Patch 1 I can get the technical services
 mapped
 to business services in the Service Catalog of the CMDB UI.

 However, if I close the CMDB UI and re-open it then the technical
 services
 are no longer mapped.

 At no time during this process do I see any relationships created in
 the
 base relationship form.

 Has anyone tried this and got the mapping to work?

 WIN 2008
 SQLServer 2008
 CMDB 7.5 Patch 1
 ARS 7.5 Patch 1

 Cheers

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View Forms and Synoyms....

2009-05-27 Thread Kemes, Lisa
Got a ticket into BMC, we are having problems using Synonyms for our View 
Forms.  Getting Requested Database table not found.  Please check the spelling 
(table name is case-sensitive) ARERR 481.

We are on 7.01 patch 3.  I thought this bug was fixed with SW00180955?

Oracle 10i
Windows 2003

Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
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Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread MCCAVITT Nyall
Hi,

Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g
database.

One of my users has complained that the standard error message from
Remedy for a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot
see an easy way of making the message more friendly. Any suggestions
would be welcome.

The simplified situation is this:

One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu'
which has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A,
2008B, 2008C and 2008D. There is a button on this field which when
clicked on copies the data from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active
Link. This second form also has a field called 'Menu' with an attached
menu, but in the case the menu values are 2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the
value 2008A is missing from the menu on the form A2.

When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the
'Menu' field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the
following error message:

ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for
the field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913

The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has
occurred but the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the
field where the problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user
would like to have the name of the field i.e. the database label value.
Personally I would like to have the database label value, the form name
and the data value that has caused this error.

Thanks in advance.

Nyall

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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Kemes, Lisa
I use display forms to create more user friendly error messages.  They look a 
lot nicer and are more user friendly


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Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

**

Hi,

Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database.

One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy for 
a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy way of 
making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.

The simplified situation is this:

One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu' which 
has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B, 2008C and 
2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on copies the data 
from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This second form also has a 
field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the case the menu values are 
2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing from the menu on the form 
A2.

When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the 'Menu' 
field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the following error 
message:

ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the 
field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913

The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred but 
the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where the 
problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to have the 
name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would like to 
have the database label value, the form name and the data value that has caused 
this error.

Thanks in advance.

Nyall

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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread LJ Longwing
This one is a bane to our society...but unfortunately no solution that I'm
familiar with.  Sorry.

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Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.


** 

Hi, 

Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database. 

One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy
for a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy
way of making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.

The simplified situation is this: 

One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu'
which has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B,
2008C and 2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on
copies the data from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This
second form also has a field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the
case the menu values are 2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing
from the menu on the form A2.

When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the
'Menu' field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the
following error message:

ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the
field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913 

The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred
but the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where
the problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to
have the name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would
like to have the database label value, the form name and the data value that
has caused this error.

Thanks in advance. 

Nyall 

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Re: View Forms and Synoyms....

2009-05-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
I thought I'd ask you the very obvious question... Can you query the view form 
as aradmin from the SQL client when logged in as aradmin using that same view 
name???

Joe





From: Kemes, Lisa lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:44:30 AM
Subject: View Forms and Synoyms

** Got a ticket into BMC, we are having problems using Synonyms for our View 
Forms.  Getting Requested Database table not found.  Please check the spelling 
(table name is case-sensitive) ARERR 481.
 
We are on 7.01 patch 3.  I thought this bug was fixed with SW00180955?
 
Oracle 10i
Windows 2003
 
Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
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Re: View Forms and Synoyms....

2009-05-27 Thread Kemes, Lisa
Yes it does work from the SQL Client.  Sorry, I should have specified that.



Lisa




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Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

**
I thought I'd ask you the very obvious question... Can you query the view form 
as aradmin from the SQL client when logged in as aradmin using that same view 
name???

Joe


From: Kemes, Lisa lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:44:30 AM
Subject: View Forms and Synoyms

**
Got a ticket into BMC, we are having problems using Synonyms for our View 
Forms.  Getting Requested Database table not found.  Please check the spelling 
(table name is case-sensitive) ARERR 481.

We are on 7.01 patch 3.  I thought this bug was fixed with SW00180955?

Oracle 10i
Windows 2003

Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com

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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Brian Bishop
Hi Nyall,

 

Assuming you are pushing the value of the field Menu on form A1 to the field
Menu on form A2.

 

First of all ask yourself is it necessary to have a pattern match of $MENU$
on the menu field on form A2. 

 

If it is, then ask yourself why the values for Menu in form A1 don’t match
those in form A2. If there is a valid reason that 2008A can appear in form
A1 but not in A2, then what do you want to happen? Logically you don’t want
an entry to be created in form A2. 

 

So, if you don’t want an entry created in form A2 when the Menu value in
form A1 is 2008A, you need to create some workflow that checks if the value
in form A1 is also valid for form A2. If the check confirms it is valid, do
the push, if it isn’t don’t do the push. If you get the workflow correct the
user will not be aware that this decision action is happening and they will
never get this obscure message again.

 

If however you do want the entry to be created then you need to either
replace, or remove, the menu value in form A1 prior to the push to form A2.
The same workflow as above to check if it is valid but rather than not doing
the push, do it with the 2008A replaced with a valid value or remove it.
This will be decided by whether the field menu in form A2 is a required
field or not.

 

 

 

Brian Bishop

Goldstag Consultants Ltd

tel: +44 (0)7973 746832

 

 http://www.linkedin.com/in/brianpbishop Linkedin

 

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Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

 

** 

Hi, 

Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database. 

One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy
for a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy
way of making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.

The simplified situation is this: 

One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu'
which has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B,
2008C and 2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on
copies the data from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This
second form also has a field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the
case the menu values are 2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing
from the menu on the form A2.

When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the
'Menu' field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the
following error message:

ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the
field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913 

The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred
but the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where
the problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to
have the name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would
like to have the database label value, the form name and the data value that
has caused this error.

Thanks in advance. 

Nyall 

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Server name reference in ARTask file - can it be changed/configured

2009-05-27 Thread Jiri Pospisil
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I was wondering if anybody knows of a way to define the Server parameter value 
in ARTask files attached to email notifications.
We are running in the server group configuration, but the Server value always 
gets set to the physical server name rather than group alias.
As a result, users occasionally cannot access the referenced entry if the 
source server is not up.
We are on Remedy/ITSM 7.0.1.

Thanks
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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
Make the character menu's display type as drop list and you will never have to 
deal with that error..

Joe





From: MCCAVITT Nyall nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:38:25 AM
Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

** 
Hi, 
Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database. 
One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy for 
a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy way of 
making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.
The simplified situation is this: 
One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu' which 
has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B, 2008C and 
2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on copies the data 
from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This second form also has a 
field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the case the menu values are 
2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing from the menu on the form 
A2.
When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the 'Menu' 
field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the following error 
message:
    ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the 
field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913 
The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred but 
the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where the 
problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to have the 
name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would like to 
have the database label value, the form name and the data value that has caused 
this error.
Thanks in advance. 
Nyall 
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Asset Management 7.01

2009-05-27 Thread Bala Patel
All,
 
We have installed Asset Management Version 7.01.  Does anyone know if their is 
any specific documentation on what fields are on each Asset form? We wanted to 
have a description and did not want to have to go through each Asset form.
 
Thanks,
 
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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Lyle Taylor
My feeling is that system messages make for terrible error messages to display 
to end users - they're OK for administrators, but don't mean much to the person 
trying to do their work.  As a result, I tend to favor manual data validation 
and popping up my own user-friendly messages.  So, rather than using a pattern 
to limit input on a field, I would validate it using workflow and then pop up 
an appropriate error message that you have complete control over.

Lyle

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Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

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Hi,

Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database.

One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy for 
a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy way of 
making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.

The simplified situation is this:

One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu' which 
has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B, 2008C and 
2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on copies the data 
from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This second form also has a 
field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the case the menu values are 
2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing from the menu on the form 
A2.

When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the 'Menu' 
field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the following error 
message:

ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the 
field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913

The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred but 
the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where the 
problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to have the 
name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would like to 
have the database label value, the form name and the data value that has caused 
this error.

Thanks in advance.

Nyall

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Re: View Forms and Synoyms....

2009-05-27 Thread Kemes, Lisa
Thanks Fred.  I tried this, but I'm still getting the error. (Even though it's 
not captured on the SQL logs for some reason)

*/SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'COST_CENTER_V' and 
owner = 'DCC'
*/OK
*/SELECT table_name from all_synonyms where synonym_name = 'COST_CENTER_V' and 
owner = 'DCC'
*/OK 


Lisa

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:12 PM
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Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

Try adding in the owner of your synonym.

Here is an excerpt of the server SQL Log.  This is with 7.1.0 Patch 007 on 
Solaris w/Oracle 10i (Remote DB)

Attempting to create a View Form on USER_VIEWS

SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0270 */   
SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner 
= 'ARADMIN'   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0325 */OK   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0327 */   
SELECT table_name from all_synonyms where synonym_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner 
= 'ARADMIN'   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0574 */OK   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0575 */   
Error - can't find table USER_VIEWS (owner = ARADMIN).

Attempting to create a View Form on SYS.USER_VIEWS

SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:51:30.7681 */   
SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner 
= 'SYS'   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:51:30.7696 */OK   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:51:30.7699 */   
SELECT column_name,data_type,data_length,data_precision,data_scale from 
all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner = 'SYS'   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:51:30.7771 */OK   


Fred


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Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

Yes it does work from the SQL Client.  Sorry, I should have specified that.
 
Lisa 


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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:01 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms
 
I thought I'd ask you the very obvious question... Can you query the view form 
as aradmin from the SQL client when logged in as aradmin using that same view 
name???
 
Joe

From: Kemes, Lisa lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:44:30 AM
Subject: View Forms and Synoyms

Got a ticket into BMC, we are having problems using Synonyms for our View 
Forms.  Getting Requested Database table not found.  Please check the spelling 
(table name is case-sensitive) ARERR 481.
 
We are on 7.01 patch 3.  I thought this bug was fixed with SW00180955?
 
Oracle 10i
Windows 2003
 
Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com

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Re: View Forms and Synoyms....

2009-05-27 Thread Shellman, David
That won't work because ARAdmin is the owner of the synonym.
--Original Message--
From: Lisa Kemes
To: Arslist
ReplyTo: Arslist
Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms
Sent: May 27, 2009 12:27 PM

Thanks Fred.  I tried this, but I'm still getting the error. (Even though it's 
not captured on the SQL logs for some reason)

*/SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'COST_CENTER_V' and 
owner = 'DCC'
*/OK
*/SELECT table_name from all_synonyms where synonym_name = 'COST_CENTER_V' and 
owner = 'DCC'
*/OK 


Lisa

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:12 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

Try adding in the owner of your synonym.

Here is an excerpt of the server SQL Log.  This is with 7.1.0 Patch 007 on 
Solaris w/Oracle 10i (Remote DB)

Attempting to create a View Form on USER_VIEWS

SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0270 */   
SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner 
= 'ARADMIN'   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0325 */OK   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0327 */   
SELECT table_name from all_synonyms where synonym_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner 
= 'ARADMIN'   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0574 */OK   
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0575 */   
Error

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Dave
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Re: Server name reference in ARTask file - can it be changed/configured

2009-05-27 Thread Misi Mladoniczky
Hi,

A long time ago I created a Unix-script that took Server, Form and Request
ID as input. It created filters to the Email Attachment form that called
the script when a record was created with the correct ARTask-name, using
$PROCESS$. The Perform-Action-Add-Attachment replaced the original
ARTask-file with the newly created from the server disc.

Maybe you should try to create an ARFILTER-plugin that performs something
similar without the roundtrip to scripts and server disc?

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 Hi,

 I was wondering if anybody knows of a way to define the Server parameter
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 We are running in the server group configuration, but the Server value
 always gets set to the physical server name rather than group alias.
 As a result, users occasionally cannot access the referenced entry if the
 source server is not up.
 We are on Remedy/ITSM 7.0.1.

 Thanks
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ERROR's in LOG-Approve : Some fields truncated...ARWARN 8911

2009-05-27 Thread DigiLife

Over and over in the log fileWe are also experiencing stability with
Tomcat in a Wintel environment. 

Action Request System(R) Server Version 7.1.00 Patch 004 200808100630
Arerror.log:
Tue Mar 17 15:06:53 2009  Approve : Some of the fields have been truncated
from the results list because the total length of the fields and separators
is greater than the maximum allowed 0 (ARWARN 8911)
Tue Mar 17 15:10:18 2009  Approve : Some of the fields have been truncated
from the results list because the total length of the fields and separators
is greater than the maximum allowed 0 (ARWARN 8911)
Tue Mar 17 15:13:23 2009  Approve : Some of the fields have been truncated
from the results list because the total length of the fields and separators
is greater than the maximum allowed 0 (ARWARN 8911)
Any idea what is causing this?
Thanks in advance,
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Re: ERROR's in LOG-Approve : Some fields truncated...ARWARN 8911

2009-05-27 Thread Savant, don...@dts
We were told by Support that this is a known issue but that since it doesn't 
negatively impact the application, a fix would not be coming for a while.

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Over and over in the log fileWe are also experiencing stability with
Tomcat in a Wintel environment. 

Action Request System(R) Server Version 7.1.00 Patch 004 200808100630
Arerror.log:
Tue Mar 17 15:06:53 2009  Approve : Some of the fields have been truncated
from the results list because the total length of the fields and separators
is greater than the maximum allowed 0 (ARWARN 8911)
Tue Mar 17 15:10:18 2009  Approve : Some of the fields have been truncated
from the results list because the total length of the fields and separators
is greater than the maximum allowed 0 (ARWARN 8911)
Tue Mar 17 15:13:23 2009  Approve : Some of the fields have been truncated
from the results list because the total length of the fields and separators
is greater than the maximum allowed 0 (ARWARN 8911)
Any idea what is causing this?
Thanks in advance,
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greater than the maximum allowed 0 (bARWARN 8911/b)
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the results list because the total length of the fields and separators is 
greater than the maximum allowed 0 (ARWARN 8911)
Tue Mar 17 15:13:23 2009  Approve : Some of the fields have been truncated from 
the results list because the total length of the fields and separators is 
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Re: Supported Versions / FD / Patches

2009-05-27 Thread Thad K Esser
Pat,

I was of the same understanding as you, until just now.  After re-reading
the FD patch 2 document, I don't think its referring to the CMDB.

  By deploying patch 1.6.00.02, you are not able to upgrade to BMC
  Atrium Discovery and Dependency Mapping (BMC Atrium Discovery) 7.5.00
  or 7.5.01. Future releases of BMC Atrium Discovery and Dependency
  Mapping may support an upgrade from patch 1.6.00.02.

Initially, like you, I understood that to say that we couldn't upgrade the
CMDB until 7.5 p2 came out.  But what it actually says, is that you can't
upgrade from 1.6 patch 2 to the 7.5 version of the discovery tools (Atrium
Discovery  Dependency Mapping - ADDM) until patch 2 for that comes out.
It doesn't put any limitations on the CMDB version.

I think having the name Atrium in there is what tripped us up.

Thad Esser
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Have a question: About support going back 2 versions right...
7.5.2 - minor
7.5.1 -- minor
7.5 --- Major
7.1 -- Major We are still here right? Put the X here.

Why is it then that the FD 1.6.002 Patch that just came out only works with
7.5 !
because they are no longer patching FD in version 7.1 !

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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread MCCAVITT Nyall
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Hi Brian,
 
Yes I have to have pattern matching on the second form as the second form can 
have entries created independently of the first form. For the same reason the 
pattern matching has to be on as this is a business requirement.

In the real situation the same menu is used for both forms but this menu is 
based on a search of another form. The specific value of 2008A has been marked 
as inactive but some entries in the first form still have the 2008A value and 
only now are the entries in the second form being are being created from the 
first form. Ideally the value of 2008A should be made active again but 
currently this is not an option.

Thanks for your comments on doing some more error checking before creation in 
the second form.

Nyall


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Brian Bishop
Sent: Wed 27/05/2009 17:16
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.
 
Hi Nyall,

 

Assuming you are pushing the value of the field Menu on form A1 to the field
Menu on form A2.

 

First of all ask yourself is it necessary to have a pattern match of $MENU$
on the menu field on form A2. 

 

If it is, then ask yourself why the values for Menu in form A1 don't match
those in form A2. If there is a valid reason that 2008A can appear in form
A1 but not in A2, then what do you want to happen? Logically you don't want
an entry to be created in form A2. 

 

So, if you don't want an entry created in form A2 when the Menu value in
form A1 is 2008A, you need to create some workflow that checks if the value
in form A1 is also valid for form A2. If the check confirms it is valid, do
the push, if it isn't don't do the push. If you get the workflow correct the
user will not be aware that this decision action is happening and they will
never get this obscure message again.

 

If however you do want the entry to be created then you need to either
replace, or remove, the menu value in form A1 prior to the push to form A2.
The same workflow as above to check if it is valid but rather than not doing
the push, do it with the 2008A replaced with a valid value or remove it.
This will be decided by whether the field menu in form A2 is a required
field or not.

 

 

 

Brian Bishop

Goldstag Consultants Ltd

tel: +44 (0)7973 746832

 

 http://www.linkedin.com/in/brianpbishop Linkedin

 

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Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

 

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Hi, 

Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database. 

One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy
for a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy
way of making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.

The simplified situation is this: 

One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu'
which has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B,
2008C and 2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on
copies the data from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This
second form also has a field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the
case the menu values are 2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing
from the menu on the form A2.

When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the
'Menu' field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the
following error message:

ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the
field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913 

The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred
but the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where
the problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to
have the name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would
like to have the database label value, the form name and the data value that
has caused this error.

Thanks in advance. 

Nyall 

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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread MCCAVITT Nyall
Hi Joe,

Unfortunately I cannot change the menu type as it is based on a search of 
another form.

Thanks.

Nyall


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Wed 27/05/2009 17:41
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.
 
Make the character menu's display type as drop list and you will never have to 
deal with that error..

Joe





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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:38:25 AM
Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

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Hi, 
Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database. 
One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy for 
a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy way of 
making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.
The simplified situation is this: 
One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu' which 
has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B, 2008C and 
2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on copies the data 
from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This second form also has a 
field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the case the menu values are 
2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing from the menu on the form 
A2.
When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the 'Menu' 
field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the following error 
message:
    ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the 
field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913 
The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred but 
the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where the 
problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to have the 
name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would like to 
have the database label value, the form name and the data value that has caused 
this error.
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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Axton
This approach only solves the problem if the underlying data that
provides the menu values never changes.

Axton Grams

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:29 PM, MCCAVITT Nyall
nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int wrote:
 **

 Hi Joe,

 Unfortunately I cannot change the menu type as it is based on a search of
 another form.

 Thanks.

 Nyall


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 DeSouza
 Sent: Wed 27/05/2009 17:41
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

 Make the character menu's display type as drop list and you will never have
 to deal with that error..

 Joe




 
 From: MCCAVITT Nyall nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:38:25 AM
 Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

 **
 Hi,
 Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database.
 One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy
 for a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy
 way of making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.
 The simplified situation is this:
 One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu'
 which has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B,
 2008C and 2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on
 copies the data from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This
 second form also has a field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the
 case the menu values are 2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing
 from the menu on the form A2.
 When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the
 'Menu' field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the
 following error message:
     ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the
 field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913
 The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred
 but the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where
 the problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to
 have the name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would
 like to have the database label value, the form name and the data value that
 has caused this error.
 Thanks in advance.
 Nyall
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Re: View Forms and Synoyms....

2009-05-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
Take an SQL log and see what SQL the AR System throws to the database server at 
the time you get that error.

Joe



From: Kemes, Lisa lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:27:21 PM
Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

Thanks Fred.  I tried this, but I'm still getting the error. (Even though it's 
not captured on the SQL logs for some reason)

*/SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'COST_CENTER_V' and 
owner = 'DCC'
*/OK
*/SELECT table_name from all_synonyms where synonym_name = 'COST_CENTER_V' and 
owner = 'DCC'
*/OK 


Lisa

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:12 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

Try adding in the owner of your synonym.

Here is an excerpt of the server SQL Log.  This is with 7.1.0 Patch 007 on 
Solaris w/Oracle 10i (Remote DB)

Attempting to create a View Form on USER_VIEWS

SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0270 */  
SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner 
= 'ARADMIN'  
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0325 */OK  
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0327 */  
SELECT table_name from all_synonyms where synonym_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner 
= 'ARADMIN'  
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0574 */OK  
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:49:37.0575 */  
Error - can't find table USER_VIEWS (owner = ARADMIN).

Attempting to create a View Form on SYS.USER_VIEWS

SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:51:30.7681 */  
SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner 
= 'SYS'  
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:51:30.7696 */OK  
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:51:30.7699 */  
SELECT column_name,data_type,data_length,data_precision,data_scale from 
all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner = 'SYS'  
SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 2009 
10:51:30.7771 */OK  


Fred


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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:14 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

Yes it does work from the SQL Client.  Sorry, I should have specified that.
 
Lisa 


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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:01 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

I thought I'd ask you the very obvious question... Can you query the view form 
as aradmin from the SQL client when logged in as aradmin using that same view 
name???
 
Joe

From: Kemes, Lisa lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:44:30 AM
Subject: View Forms and Synoyms

Got a ticket into BMC, we are having problems using Synonyms for our View 
Forms.  Getting Requested Database table not found.  Please check the spelling 
(table name is case-sensitive) ARERR 481.
 
We are on 7.01 patch 3.  I thought this bug was fixed with SW00180955?
 
Oracle 10i
Windows 2003
 
Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
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Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

2009-05-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
I had a compiled a list of what these values meant. I don't seem to find where 
I kept that information.. Does anyone have it handy?

I need to write a db script to change some value in a field and it would be 
nice to have this info. I looked up the ar.h file (which I usually do when 
looking for such info) but I sort of have forgotten what to grep for to return 
only that section for finding the map to these values.. I did find the data 
type though..
 
FieldType
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 

FBOption
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
5 - 
6 - 
8 - 
10 - 
14 - 

DataType
0 - NULL
1 - KEYWORD
2 - Integer Field
3 - Real Field
4 - Character Field
5 - Diary Field
6 - Enum (Drop Down) Field
7 - Time Field
10 - Decimal Field
11 - Attachment Field
12 - Currency Field
13 - Date Field
14 - Time of Day Field
31 - Visual Trim Field
32 - Control button, Menu Icon Field
33 - Table Field
34 - Table Column Field
35 - Page Field
36 - Page Holder Field
37 - Attachment Pool Field
40 - ULONG
41 - COORDS
42 - View Field
43 - Display Field
 
Cheers
 
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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
You do not have to change the Menu type.. just the field property of the field 
that the menu is attached to.

You will find this option in the first default tab of the field property in the 
mid upper right corner of the field property dialog..

Joe




From: MCCAVITT Nyall nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:29:20 PM
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

** 
Hi Joe,

Unfortunately I cannot change the menu type as it is based on a search of 
another form.

Thanks.

Nyall


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Joe DeSouza
Sent: Wed 27/05/2009 17:41
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

Make the character menu's display type as drop list and you will never have to 
deal with that error..

Joe





From: MCCAVITT Nyall nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:38:25 AM
Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

**
Hi,
Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database.
One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy for 
a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy way of 
making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.
The simplified situation is this:
One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu' which 
has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B, 2008C and 
2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on copies the data 
from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This second form also has a 
field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the case the menu values are 
2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing from the menu on the form 
A2.
When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the 'Menu' 
field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the following error 
message:
    ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the 
field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913
The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred but 
the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where the 
problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to have the 
name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would like to 
have the database label value, the form name and the data value that has caused 
this error.
Thanks in advance.
Nyall
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AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

2009-05-27 Thread Conny Martin
Joe,
 
from ar.h
 
FBOption
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_NONE  0x /* no bit option */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT 0x0001 /* BIT 0 - bit option to
audit */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_COPY  0x0002 /* BIT 1 - bit option to
copy when some field is being audited */
  /* 0x0003BIT 0  1 - indicates
AUDIT + COPY */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY1 0x0004  /* BIT 2 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 1 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY2 0x0008  /* BIT 3 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 2 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY3 0x000c  /* BIT 2  3 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 3 */
 
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_MASK 0x0003 /* mask to check if any
audit option is set */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_LOG_KEY_MASK 0x000c /* mask to check if
any audit log key is set */
 
FieldType
#define AR_FIELD_NONE 0  /* null field */
#define AR_FIELD_REGULAR  1  /* field of regular schema */
#define AR_FIELD_JOIN 2  /* field of join schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VIEW 3  /* field of view schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VENDOR   4  /* field of vendor schema */
#define AR_FIELD_INHERITANCE  5  /* field of inheritance type */
 
HTH
 
Kind Regards Conny



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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 20:56
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..


** 
I had a compiled a list of what these values meant. I don't seem to find
where I kept that information.. Does anyone have it handy?
 
I need to write a db script to change some value in a field and it would
be nice to have this info. I looked up the ar.h file (which I usually do
when looking for such info) but I sort of have forgotten what to grep
for to return only that section for finding the map to these values.. I
did find the data type though..
 
FieldType
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
 
FBOption
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
5 - 
6 - 
8 - 
10 - 
14 - 
 
DataType
0 - NULL
1 - KEYWORD
2 - Integer Field
3 - Real Field
4 - Character Field
5 - Diary Field
6 - Enum (Drop Down) Field
7 - Time Field
10 - Decimal Field
11 - Attachment Field
12 - Currency Field
13 - Date Field
14 - Time of Day Field
31 - Visual Trim Field
32 - Control button, Menu Icon Field
33 - Table Field
34 - Table Column Field
35 - Page Field
36 - Page Holder Field
37 - Attachment Pool Field
40 - ULONG
41 - COORDS
42 - View Field
43 - Display Field

 

Cheers

 

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Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

2009-05-27 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Actually I believe the FBOPTION in FIELD is:

 

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_REQUIRED   1   /* tags for field definition
option */

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_OPTIONAL   2

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_SYSTEM 3   /* system field; read-only to ALL
users */

   /*  NOTE that fields cannot be
created  */

   /*   with nor set to this option
*/

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_DISPLAY4   /* display-only field; no data
will be */

   /*  stored for this field in the
DB*/

 

Fred

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

 

** 

Joe,

 

from ar.h

 

FBOption

#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_NONE  0x /* no bit option */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT 0x0001 /* BIT 0 - bit option to
audit */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_COPY  0x0002 /* BIT 1 - bit option to
copy when some field is being audited */
  /* 0x0003BIT 0  1 - indicates
AUDIT + COPY */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY1 0x0004  /* BIT 2 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 1 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY2 0x0008  /* BIT 3 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 2 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY3 0x000c  /* BIT 2  3 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 3 */

 

#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_MASK 0x0003 /* mask to check if any
audit option is set */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_LOG_KEY_MASK 0x000c /* mask to check if
any audit log key is set */

 

FieldType

#define AR_FIELD_NONE 0  /* null field */
#define AR_FIELD_REGULAR  1  /* field of regular schema */
#define AR_FIELD_JOIN 2  /* field of join schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VIEW 3  /* field of view schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VENDOR   4  /* field of vendor schema */
#define AR_FIELD_INHERITANCE  5  /* field of inheritance type */

 

HTH

 

Kind Regards Conny

 



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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 20:56
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

** 

I had a compiled a list of what these values meant. I don't seem to find
where I kept that information.. Does anyone have it handy?

 

I need to write a db script to change some value in a field and it would
be nice to have this info. I looked up the ar.h file (which I usually do
when looking for such info) but I sort of have forgotten what to grep
for to return only that section for finding the map to these values.. I
did find the data type though..

 

FieldType
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 

 

FBOption
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
5 - 
6 - 
8 - 
10 - 
14 - 

 

DataType
0 - NULL
1 - KEYWORD
2 - Integer Field
3 - Real Field
4 - Character Field
5 - Diary Field
6 - Enum (Drop Down) Field
7 - Time Field
10 - Decimal Field
11 - Attachment Field
12 - Currency Field
13 - Date Field
14 - Time of Day Field
31 - Visual Trim Field
32 - Control button, Menu Icon Field
33 - Table Field
34 - Table Column Field
35 - Page Field
36 - Page Holder Field
37 - Attachment Pool Field
40 - ULONG
41 - COORDS
42 - View Field
43 - Display Field

 

Cheers

 

Joe


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Remedy Developer Available SoCal/DC

2009-05-27 Thread Kevin Thornley
All

 

I'm currently looking for Remedy consulting position in Southern California
or the Washington DC metro area. I would consider other locations for short
term ( 3 months) projects.

 

If you aware of any opportunities I would appreciate sending me an email
offline at the address below and I will send you a copy of my resume.

 

I would prefer direct business leads as apposed to dealing with of the many
IT consulting firms posting positions.

 

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AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

2009-05-27 Thread Conny Martin
this is foption not fboption



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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 21:32
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..


** 

Actually I believe the FBOPTION in FIELD is:

 

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_REQUIRED   1   /* tags for field definition
option */

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_OPTIONAL   2

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_SYSTEM 3   /* system field; read-only to ALL
users */

   /*  NOTE that fields cannot be
created  */

   /*   with nor set to this option
*/

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_DISPLAY4   /* display-only field; no data
will be */

   /*  stored for this field in the
DB*/

 

Fred

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

 

** 

Joe,

 

from ar.h

 

FBOption

#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_NONE  0x /* no bit option */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT 0x0001 /* BIT 0 - bit option to
audit */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_COPY  0x0002 /* BIT 1 - bit option to
copy when some field is being audited */
  /* 0x0003BIT 0  1 - indicates
AUDIT + COPY */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY1 0x0004  /* BIT 2 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 1 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY2 0x0008  /* BIT 3 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 2 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY3 0x000c  /* BIT 2  3 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 3 */

 

#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_MASK 0x0003 /* mask to check if any
audit option is set */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_LOG_KEY_MASK 0x000c /* mask to check if
any audit log key is set */

 

FieldType

#define AR_FIELD_NONE 0  /* null field */
#define AR_FIELD_REGULAR  1  /* field of regular schema */
#define AR_FIELD_JOIN 2  /* field of join schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VIEW 3  /* field of view schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VENDOR   4  /* field of vendor schema */
#define AR_FIELD_INHERITANCE  5  /* field of inheritance type */

 

HTH

 

Kind Regards Conny

 



Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 20:56
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

** 

I had a compiled a list of what these values meant. I don't seem to find
where I kept that information.. Does anyone have it handy?

 

I need to write a db script to change some value in a field and it would
be nice to have this info. I looked up the ar.h file (which I usually do
when looking for such info) but I sort of have forgotten what to grep
for to return only that section for finding the map to these values.. I
did find the data type though..

 

FieldType
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 

 

FBOption
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
5 - 
6 - 
8 - 
10 - 
14 - 

 

DataType
0 - NULL
1 - KEYWORD
2 - Integer Field
3 - Real Field
4 - Character Field
5 - Diary Field
6 - Enum (Drop Down) Field
7 - Time Field
10 - Decimal Field
11 - Attachment Field
12 - Currency Field
13 - Date Field
14 - Time of Day Field
31 - Visual Trim Field
32 - Control button, Menu Icon Field
33 - Table Field
34 - Table Column Field
35 - Page Field
36 - Page Holder Field
37 - Attachment Pool Field
40 - ULONG
41 - COORDS
42 - View Field
43 - Display Field

 

Cheers

 

Joe


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Re: Supported Versions / FD / Patches

2009-05-27 Thread patrick zandi
That looks like it..
It is all that fancy talk, vice something a little straighter.. for us
simple folk  =8 - )

Thank you!

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Thad K Esser tkes...@regence.com wrote:

 Pat,

 I was of the same understanding as you, until just now.  After re-reading
 the FD patch 2 document, I don't think its referring to the CMDB.

  By deploying patch 1.6.00.02, you are not able to upgrade to BMC
  Atrium Discovery and Dependency Mapping (BMC Atrium Discovery) 7.5.00
  or 7.5.01. Future releases of BMC Atrium Discovery and Dependency
  Mapping may support an upgrade from patch 1.6.00.02.

 Initially, like you, I understood that to say that we couldn't upgrade the
 CMDB until 7.5 p2 came out.  But what it actually says, is that you can't
 upgrade from 1.6 patch 2 to the 7.5 version of the discovery tools (Atrium
 Discovery  Dependency Mapping - ADDM) until patch 2 for that comes out.
 It doesn't put any limitations on the CMDB version.

 I think having the name Atrium in there is what tripped us up.

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  Have a question: About support going back 2 versions right...
 7.5.2 - minor
 7.5.1 -- minor
 7.5 --- Major
 7.1 -- Major We are still here right? Put the X here.

 Why is it then that the FD 1.6.002 Patch that just came out only works with
 7.5 !
 because they are no longer patching FD in version 7.1 !

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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread MCCAVITT Nyall
Hi Joe,
 
Tried that but as the Pattern attribute is set to $MENU$ then this gives
the same error.
 
What I am trying to do is catch the error and displayed a more
user-friendly error message. 
 
Thanks.
 
Nyall
 
 

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Sent: mercredi 27 mai 2009 20:58
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.


** 
You do not have to change the Menu type.. just the field property of the
field that the menu is attached to.
 
You will find this option in the first default tab of the field property
in the mid upper right corner of the field property dialog..
 
Joe


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From: MCCAVITT Nyall nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 1:29:20 PM
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

** 

Hi Joe,

Unfortunately I cannot change the menu type as it is based on a search
of another form.

Thanks.

Nyall


-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) on behalf of Joe
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Sent: Wed 27/05/2009 17:41
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

Make the character menu's display type as drop list and you will never
have to deal with that error..

Joe





From: MCCAVITT Nyall nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:38:25 AM
Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

**
Hi,
Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g
database.
One of my users has complained that the standard error message from
Remedy for a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot
see an easy way of making the message more friendly. Any suggestions
would be welcome.
The simplified situation is this:
One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu'
which has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A,
2008B, 2008C and 2008D. There is a button on this field which when
clicked on copies the data from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active
Link. This second form also has a field called 'Menu' with an attached
menu, but in the case the menu values are 2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the
value 2008A is missing from the menu on the form A2.
When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the
'Menu' field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the
following error message:
ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for
the field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913
The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has
occurred but the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the
field where the problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user
would like to have the name of the field i.e. the database label value.
Personally I would like to have the database label value, the form name
and the data value that has caused this error.
Thanks in advance.
Nyall
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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
Or if it changes from another configuration form, where you do not have the 
$MENU$ patterning on the field in question..

If the underlying values are just used from all other data forms you can safely 
use the display type of Drop-List and everyones happy.

Thats what I had done to some of the fields such as the CTI or RSD fields in 
the OTB apps...

Joe





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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:01:55 PM
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

This approach only solves the problem if the underlying data that
provides the menu values never changes.

Axton Grams

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:29 PM, MCCAVITT Nyall
nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int wrote:
 **

 Hi Joe,

 Unfortunately I cannot change the menu type as it is based on a search of
 another form.

 Thanks.

 Nyall


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 Sent: Wed 27/05/2009 17:41
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

 Make the character menu's display type as drop list and you will never have
 to deal with that error..

 Joe




 
 From: MCCAVITT Nyall nyall.mccav...@eurocontrol.int
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:38:25 AM
 Subject: Need to make an error message more friendly.

 **
 Hi,
 Environment: ARS V7.1 (Solaris) running with a remote Oracle 10g database.
 One of my users has complained that the standard error message from Remedy
 for a certain condition is not very user-friendly and I cannot see an easy
 way of making the message more friendly. Any suggestions would be welcome.
 The simplified situation is this:
 One one form, called A1, for this example, I have a field called 'Menu'
 which has a menu attached to it. The values in this menu are 2008A, 2008B,
 2008C and 2008D. There is a button on this field which when clicked on
 copies the data from form A1 to form A2 by means of an Active Link. This
 second form also has a field called 'Menu' with an attached menu, but in the
 case the menu values are 2008B, 2008C, 2008D i.e. the value 2008A is missing
 from the menu on the form A2.
 When an entry is being created on form A1 with a value of 2008A in the
 'Menu' field and then the button is clicked on the user receives the
 following error message:
     ARERR [306] Value does not fall within the limits specified for the
 field :  (Pattern - $MENU$) : 536870913
 The error message itself is clear enough as to why the error has occurred
 but the problem is that is uses the Database ID to identify the field where
 the problem is. This is OK for an Administrator but the user would like to
 have the name of the field i.e. the database label value. Personally I would
 like to have the database label value, the form name and the data value that
 has caused this error.
 Thanks in advance.
 Nyall
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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Mueller, Doug
Nyall,

The key here is that you are trying to trap a specific instance where this 
generic error message can come
up and provide a message that you control to give better indication about this 
specific situation.

The various suggestions about changing menu styles and such help control what 
can be entered, but do
not allow you to specifically address the issue.

Also, there seems to be a constraint about adding anything or doing any 
checking on the remote form.
So, all the options here are adding things to the source form only.

The only way to accomplish what you want with a special error message for the 
specific case you have is
to do your own validation or trapping of the problem and displaying your own 
message.

So, here are some options:

Option 1 -- Easy, quick and dirty however is inflexible

This works ONLY IF you know that there is a bad value -- say 2008A -- that is 
causing the problem.

Simply add an active link that fires BEFORE the active link that does the push 
to the other form that fires
on the same conditions that has a run if

'field' = 2008A

and an action that says to display an error message and you can say that value 
2008A is not allowed.
You can be as specific as you want with the message.

NOTE: This is easy but it is inflexible since you need to know the exact value 
that is wrong and need to
keep up if there are other values that can be wrong.  This is an option only if 
the menu is essentially
static even though it is a lookup.


Option 2 -- A bit more work, much more robust and flexible than Option 1 but 
still requires keeping
definitions in sync

Add (or use an available existing) temp field.  It doesn't matter what the 
field is since you are really not going
to be using it, you are just going to do a NULL test on it.

Add two active links that run BEFORE the active link that does the push to the 
other form that fire on the
same conditions

#1  if the field in question has a value (no need to test if it is NULL), 
perform a set fields that has a qualifier
that is the same as the qualifier for the menu that is on the other form with 
the following added on

AND 'field on target form' = $field on current form$

This does the same search for a subset of records to display AND says to see if 
there is one that is the
value I am supplying.

Assign the field value you are looking up to the temp field you have arranged 
for with the option for what to
do if there are no matches set to Assign a NULL value

#2 runs at a higher execution order than #1 has a run if

'temp field' = $NULL$

and an action that is an error message that says exactly what you want to say.

This adapts to any value and changing menus.  However, it is dependent on the 
qualification.  So, if the
menu definition on the other form changes, you will have to change the active 
link set fields qualifier in
#1 to adapt.


Option 3 -- requires AR System 7.1 or later, is the most complete solution, but 
is also a bit more work

Redo your logic to move the push fields to a filter that fires on Service.  
Then, change the active link that
does the push to perform a Service action against your form (probably passing a 
code in some field to
tell it that this is the operation you are performing in case there are 
multiple service conditions) and have
the operation performed.

At this point you have the IDENTICAL operation you have now but instead of the 
active link performing the
operation, it calls an operation on the current form and a filter performs the 
operation.  But, the error is the
same and you still want it fixed.

HOWEVER, this is where you can then use the second new feature of 7.1 -- error 
handling  (available only
for filters which is why I had to get you to move the operation to filters 
first).

Define an error handler on the filter that does a push.  If an error occurs 
during the push, the error handler
will get called.

The error handler would have a run if qualification of

$ERRORNUMBER$ = 306 AND $ERRORMESSAGE$ LIKE %536870913%
  (note that the actual keywords are different strings, but you can look up 
the exact wording)

This would be true ONLY for error 306 on the field of interest.

Success, the error handler would not be called
Any other error and the error handler would run the ELSE branch (which is 
empty) and return the error

If it matches however, the error 306 would be suppressed completely.  You would 
then have an action on
your error handler filter that would be an error message of the text that you 
wanted to have.

Essentially, you have trapped the error you don't want in this case and 
substituted your error.  You could
alternatively have kept running or whatever you wanted but you wanted an 
alternate error.

This last one is the most work, but it works no matter what the values are 
today or change to, no matter
what the menu in question is.



I hope this shows the variety of types of things you can do to handle 
situations like the one you are
describing and that 

Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread LJ Longwing
Nicely worded Doug.

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Mueller, Doug
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:26 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.


** 
Nyall,
 
The key here is that you are trying to trap a specific instance where this
generic error message can come
up and provide a message that you control to give better indication about
this specific situation.
 
The various suggestions about changing menu styles and such help control
what can be entered, but do
not allow you to specifically address the issue.
 
Also, there seems to be a constraint about adding anything or doing any
checking on the remote form.
So, all the options here are adding things to the source form only.
 
The only way to accomplish what you want with a special error message for
the specific case you have is
to do your own validation or trapping of the problem and displaying your own
message.
 
So, here are some options:
 
Option 1 -- Easy, quick and dirty however is inflexible
 
This works ONLY IF you know that there is a bad value -- say 2008A -- that
is causing the problem.
 
Simply add an active link that fires BEFORE the active link that does the
push to the other form that fires
on the same conditions that has a run if
 
'field' = 2008A
 
and an action that says to display an error message and you can say that
value 2008A is not allowed.
You can be as specific as you want with the message.
 
NOTE: This is easy but it is inflexible since you need to know the exact
value that is wrong and need to
keep up if there are other values that can be wrong.  This is an option only
if the menu is essentially
static even though it is a lookup.
 
 
Option 2 -- A bit more work, much more robust and flexible than Option 1 but
still requires keeping
definitions in sync
 
Add (or use an available existing) temp field.  It doesn't matter what the
field is since you are really not going
to be using it, you are just going to do a NULL test on it.
 
Add two active links that run BEFORE the active link that does the push to
the other form that fire on the
same conditions
 
#1  if the field in question has a value (no need to test if it is NULL),
perform a set fields that has a qualifier
that is the same as the qualifier for the menu that is on the other form
with the following added on
 
AND 'field on target form' = $field on current form$
 
This does the same search for a subset of records to display AND says to see
if there is one that is the
value I am supplying.
 
Assign the field value you are looking up to the temp field you have
arranged for with the option for what to
do if there are no matches set to Assign a NULL value
 
#2 runs at a higher execution order than #1 has a run if
 
'temp field' = $NULL$
 
and an action that is an error message that says exactly what you want to
say.
 
This adapts to any value and changing menus.  However, it is dependent on
the qualification.  So, if the
menu definition on the other form changes, you will have to change the
active link set fields qualifier in
#1 to adapt.
 
 
Option 3 -- requires AR System 7.1 or later, is the most complete solution,
but is also a bit more work
 
Redo your logic to move the push fields to a filter that fires on Service.
Then, change the active link that
does the push to perform a Service action against your form (probably
passing a code in some field to
tell it that this is the operation you are performing in case there are
multiple service conditions) and have
the operation performed.
 
At this point you have the IDENTICAL operation you have now but instead of
the active link performing the
operation, it calls an operation on the current form and a filter performs
the operation.  But, the error is the
same and you still want it fixed.
 
HOWEVER, this is where you can then use the second new feature of 7.1 --
error handling  (available only
for filters which is why I had to get you to move the operation to filters
first).
 
Define an error handler on the filter that does a push.  If an error occurs
during the push, the error handler
will get called.
 
The error handler would have a run if qualification of
 
$ERRORNUMBER$ = 306 AND $ERRORMESSAGE$ LIKE %536870913%
  (note that the actual keywords are different strings, but you can look
up the exact wording)
 
This would be true ONLY for error 306 on the field of interest.
 
Success, the error handler would not be called
Any other error and the error handler would run the ELSE branch (which is
empty) and return the error
 
If it matches however, the error 306 would be suppressed completely.  You
would then have an action on
your error handler filter that would be an error message of the text that
you wanted to have.
 
Essentially, you have trapped the error you don't want in this case and
substituted your error.  You could
alternatively have kept running or whatever you wanted but you wanted an
alternate 

Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

2009-05-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
Thanks Fredrick, Martin,

I think Fred is more accurate on the FBOPTION.. I did find that list too but 
was wondering what the other values greater than 4 signified.. The list of 
FBOPTION values found my my DB on doing a distinct select was 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 
6, 8, 10 and 14

For FieldType I get a distinct list of 0, 1, 2, 3 and 4.

I'll try combing the ar.h file later but in the meantime if someone out there 
already has this list - please do share..

Anyone?

Cheers

Joe





From: Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 3:31:34 PM
Subject: Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

** 
Actually I believe the FBOPTION in FIELD is:
 
#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_REQUIRED   1   /* tags for field definition option */
#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_OPTIONAL   2
#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_SYSTEM 3   /* system field; read-only to ALL users 
*/
   /*  NOTE that fields cannot be created  
*/
   /*   with nor set to this option    
*/
#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_DISPLAY    4   /* display-only field; no data will be */
   /*  stored for this field in the DB    */
 
Fred
 
 
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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..
 
** 
Joe,
 
from ar.h
 
FBOption
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_NONE  0x /* no bit option */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT 0x0001 /* BIT 0 - bit option to audit */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_COPY  0x0002 /* BIT 1 - bit option to copy when 
some field is being audited */
  /* 0x0003    BIT 0  1 - indicates AUDIT + 
COPY */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY1 0x0004  /* BIT 2 - bit option to indicate 
this field is log key 1 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY2 0x0008  /* BIT 3 - bit option to indicate 
this field is log key 2 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY3 0x000c  /* BIT 2  3 - bit option to 
indicate this field is log key 3 */
 
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_MASK 0x0003 /* mask to check if any audit 
option is set */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_LOG_KEY_MASK 0x000c /* mask to check if any 
audit log key is set */
 
FieldType
#define AR_FIELD_NONE 0  /* null field */
#define AR_FIELD_REGULAR  1  /* field of regular schema */
#define AR_FIELD_JOIN 2  /* field of join schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VIEW 3  /* field of view schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VENDOR   4  /* field of vendor schema */
#define AR_FIELD_INHERITANCE  5  /* field of inheritance type */
 
HTH
 
Kind Regards Conny
 



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Betreff: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..
** 
I had a compiled a list of what these values meant. I don't seem to find where 
I kept that information.. Does anyone have it handy?
 
I need to write a db script to change some value in a field and it would be 
nice to have this info. I looked up the ar.h file (which I usually do when 
looking for such info) but I sort of have forgotten what to grep for to return 
only that section for finding the map to these values.. I did find the data 
type though..
 
FieldType
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
 
FBOption
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
5 - 
6 - 
8 - 
10 - 
14 - 
 
DataType
0 - NULL
1 - KEYWORD
2 - Integer Field
3 - Real Field
4 - Character Field
5 - Diary Field
6 - Enum (Drop Down) Field
7 - Time Field
10 - Decimal Field
11 - Attachment Field
12 - Currency Field
13 - Date Field
14 - Time of Day Field
31 - Visual Trim Field
32 - Control button, Menu Icon Field
33 - Table Field
34 - Table Column Field
35 - Page Field
36 - Page Holder Field
37 - Attachment Pool Field
40 - ULONG
41 - COORDS
42 - View Field
43 - Display Field
 
Cheers
 
Joe




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Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

2009-05-27 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Oops ... Time to clean the glasses

 

You are correct that there are 2 fields in the Field table... FOPTION
and FBOPTION

 

My bad

Fred

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:39 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

 

** 

this is foption not fboption

 



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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 21:32
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Betreff: Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

** 

Actually I believe the FBOPTION in FIELD is:

 

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_REQUIRED   1   /* tags for field definition
option */

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_OPTIONAL   2

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_SYSTEM 3   /* system field; read-only to ALL
users */

   /*  NOTE that fields cannot be
created  */

   /*   with nor set to this option
*/

#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_DISPLAY4   /* display-only field; no data
will be */

   /*  stored for this field in the
DB*/

 

Fred

 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

 

** 

Joe,

 

from ar.h

 

FBOption

#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_NONE  0x /* no bit option */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT 0x0001 /* BIT 0 - bit option to
audit */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_COPY  0x0002 /* BIT 1 - bit option to
copy when some field is being audited */
  /* 0x0003BIT 0  1 - indicates
AUDIT + COPY */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY1 0x0004  /* BIT 2 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 1 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY2 0x0008  /* BIT 3 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 2 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY3 0x000c  /* BIT 2  3 - bit option to
indicate this field is log key 3 */

 

#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_MASK 0x0003 /* mask to check if any
audit option is set */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_LOG_KEY_MASK 0x000c /* mask to check if
any audit log key is set */

 

FieldType

#define AR_FIELD_NONE 0  /* null field */
#define AR_FIELD_REGULAR  1  /* field of regular schema */
#define AR_FIELD_JOIN 2  /* field of join schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VIEW 3  /* field of view schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VENDOR   4  /* field of vendor schema */
#define AR_FIELD_INHERITANCE  5  /* field of inheritance type */

 

HTH

 

Kind Regards Conny

 



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Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 20:56
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

** 

I had a compiled a list of what these values meant. I don't seem to find
where I kept that information.. Does anyone have it handy?

 

I need to write a db script to change some value in a field and it would
be nice to have this info. I looked up the ar.h file (which I usually do
when looking for such info) but I sort of have forgotten what to grep
for to return only that section for finding the map to these values.. I
did find the data type though..

 

FieldType
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 

 

FBOption
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
5 - 
6 - 
8 - 
10 - 
14 - 

 

DataType
0 - NULL
1 - KEYWORD
2 - Integer Field
3 - Real Field
4 - Character Field
5 - Diary Field
6 - Enum (Drop Down) Field
7 - Time Field
10 - Decimal Field
11 - Attachment Field
12 - Currency Field
13 - Date Field
14 - Time of Day Field
31 - Visual Trim Field
32 - Control button, Menu Icon Field
33 - Table Field
34 - Table Column Field
35 - Page Field
36 - Page Holder Field
37 - Attachment Pool Field
40 - ULONG
41 - COORDS
42 - View Field
43 - Display Field

 

Cheers

 

Joe


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Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

2009-05-27 Thread Joe DeSouza
To be honest I think its the FOption field I should have been writing about in 
the first place in my first mail..

Thanks for the catch Martin..

Joe





From: Grooms, Frederick W frederick.w.gro...@xo.com
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 4:48:21 PM
Subject: Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..

** 
Oops … Time to clean the glasses
 
You are correct that there are 2 fields in the Field table… FOPTION and FBOPTION
 
My bad
Fred
 
From:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Conny Martin
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:39 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..
 
** 
this is foption not fboption
 



Von:Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] 
Im Auftrag von Grooms, Frederick W
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 21:32
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..
** 
Actually I believe the FBOPTION in FIELD is:
 
#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_REQUIRED   1   /* tags for field definition option */
#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_OPTIONAL   2
#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_SYSTEM 3   /* system field; read-only to ALL users 
*/
   /*  NOTE that fields cannot be created  
*/
   /*   with nor set to this option    
*/
#define AR_FIELD_OPTION_DISPLAY    4   /* display-only field; no data will be */
   /*  stored for this field in the DB    */
 
Fred
 
 
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Conny Martin
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 2:21 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: AW: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..
 
** 
Joe,
 
from ar.h
 
FBOption
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_NONE  0x /* no bit option */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT 0x0001 /* BIT 0 - bit option to audit */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_COPY  0x0002 /* BIT 1 - bit option to copy when 
some field is being audited */
  /* 0x0003    BIT 0  1 - indicates AUDIT + 
COPY */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY1 0x0004  /* BIT 2 - bit option to indicate 
this field is log key 1 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY2 0x0008  /* BIT 3 - bit option to indicate 
this field is log key 2 */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_LOG_KEY3 0x000c  /* BIT 2  3 - bit option to 
indicate this field is log key 3 */
 
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_MASK 0x0003 /* mask to check if any audit 
option is set */
#define AR_FIELD_BITOPTION_AUDIT_LOG_KEY_MASK 0x000c /* mask to check if any 
audit log key is set */
 
FieldType
#define AR_FIELD_NONE 0  /* null field */
#define AR_FIELD_REGULAR  1  /* field of regular schema */
#define AR_FIELD_JOIN 2  /* field of join schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VIEW 3  /* field of view schema */
#define AR_FIELD_VENDOR   4  /* field of vendor schema */
#define AR_FIELD_INHERITANCE  5  /* field of inheritance type */
 
HTH
 
Kind Regards Conny
 



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Im Auftrag von Joe DeSouza
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2009 20:56
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Values of FieldType and FBOption in the table field..
** 
I had a compiled a list of what these values meant. I don't seem to find where 
I kept that information.. Does anyone have it handy?
 
I need to write a db script to change some value in a field and it would be 
nice to have this info. I looked up the ar.h file (which I usually do when 
looking for such info) but I sort of have forgotten what to grep for to return 
only that section for finding the map to these values.. I did find the data 
type though..
 
FieldType
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
 
FBOption
0 - 
1 - 
2 - 
3 - 
4 - 
5 - 
6 - 
8 - 
10 - 
14 - 
 
DataType
0 - NULL
1 - KEYWORD
2 - Integer Field
3 - Real Field
4 - Character Field
5 - Diary Field
6 - Enum (Drop Down) Field
7 - Time Field
10 - Decimal Field
11 - Attachment Field
12 - Currency Field
13 - Date Field
14 - Time of Day Field
31 - Visual Trim Field
32 - Control button, Menu Icon Field
33 - Table Field
34 - Table Column Field
35 - Page Field
36 - Page Holder Field
37 - Attachment Pool Field
40 - ULONG
41 - COORDS
42 - View Field
43 - Display Field
 
Cheers
 
Joe




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Re: Need to make an error message more friendly.

2009-05-27 Thread Axton
Option 4 would be to not store a literal representation of a moving
target (a text label) but instead store a constant reference to the
value.  This would require that you alter the way you think about
storing data within your applications; to achieve this, things need to
be normalized and you need to enforce constraints [1] to the extent
the system allows.

Consider the following design:
- the character field (with the menu) where the user selects the value
is a display only field
- the value returned from the menu is a primary key from another form
(a guid or entryid or some other value)
- you have a separate optional/required field (hidden) that stores the
foreign key
- on menu select, you translate that foreign key the menu returns by
retrieving the literal representation and placing it in the
display-only field (active link) and moving the foreign key to the
hidden field
- you have filters that perform validation on the create of the record
or modify of the foreign key to check the foreign key is valid

Added advantages:
1. Native AR form searches work as you would like.
2. It is simply not possible to get a bad value into the field, so
subsequent modify operations will not trigger an error.
3. Should you want to change a menu value at some point in the future,
it is reflected everywhere without updating 'potentially' millions of
values (think of values like login name or full name or email
address).  This has a potentially huge impact on (a) the consistency
and reliability of your data and (b) the potential bottlenecks the
system will run into should you need to modify these values
4. It's efficient (for updates, validity checks, ...)
5. It's reliable; bad data simply won't get in (through changes to the
source data, changes to the referencing data, ...)

Footnotes:
1. This means that once a key is defined, it can not be removed
without cleaning up all references; this is typically achieved using a
cascading delete.  This could also be achieved by having mechanism
that (a) update references to another key or (b) nulls all key
references

Axton Grams

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Mueller, Doug doug_muel...@bmc.com wrote:
 **
 Nyall,

 The key here is that you are trying to trap a specific instance where this
 generic error message can come
 up and provide a message that you control to give better indication about
 this specific situation.

 The various suggestions about changing menu styles and such help control
 what can be entered, but do
 not allow you to specifically address the issue.

 Also, there seems to be a constraint about adding anything or doing any
 checking on the remote form.
 So, all the options here are adding things to the source form only.

 The only way to accomplish what you want with a special error message for
 the specific case you have is
 to do your own validation or trapping of the problem and displaying your own
 message.

 So, here are some options:

 Option 1 -- Easy, quick and dirty however is inflexible

 This works ONLY IF you know that there is a bad value -- say 2008A -- that
 is causing the problem.

 Simply add an active link that fires BEFORE the active link that does the
 push to the other form that fires
 on the same conditions that has a run if

 'field' = 2008A

 and an action that says to display an error message and you can say that
 value 2008A is not allowed.
 You can be as specific as you want with the message.

 NOTE: This is easy but it is inflexible since you need to know the exact
 value that is wrong and need to
 keep up if there are other values that can be wrong.  This is an option only
 if the menu is essentially
 static even though it is a lookup.


 Option 2 -- A bit more work, much more robust and flexible than Option 1 but
 still requires keeping
 definitions in sync

 Add (or use an available existing) temp field.  It doesn't matter what the
 field is since you are really not going
 to be using it, you are just going to do a NULL test on it.

 Add two active links that run BEFORE the active link that does the push to
 the other form that fire on the
 same conditions

 #1  if the field in question has a value (no need to test if it is NULL),
 perform a set fields that has a qualifier
 that is the same as the qualifier for the menu that is on the other form
 with the following added on

 AND 'field on target form' = $field on current form$

 This does the same search for a subset of records to display AND says to see
 if there is one that is the
 value I am supplying.

 Assign the field value you are looking up to the temp field you have
 arranged for with the option for what to
 do if there are no matches set to Assign a NULL value

 #2 runs at a higher execution order than #1 has a run if

 'temp field' = $NULL$

 and an action that is an error message that says exactly what you want to
 say.

 This adapts to any value and changing menus.  However, it is dependent on
 the qualification.  So, if the
 menu definition on the other form 

Re: View Forms and Synoyms....

2009-05-27 Thread Axton
So what do the sql statements below return when run from your sql
client?  Are synonyms available in all_tab_columns?  If they are not
then you are probably out of luck using synonyms.

Axton Grams

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Kemes, Lisa
lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com wrote:
 Thanks Fred.  I tried this, but I'm still getting the error. (Even though 
 it's not captured on the SQL logs for some reason)

 */SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'COST_CENTER_V' and 
 owner = 'DCC'
 */OK
 */SELECT table_name from all_synonyms where synonym_name = 'COST_CENTER_V' 
 and owner = 'DCC'
 */OK


 Lisa

 -Original Message-
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 12:12 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

 Try adding in the owner of your synonym.

 Here is an excerpt of the server SQL Log.  This is with 7.1.0 Patch 007 on 
 Solaris w/Oracle 10i (Remote DB)

 Attempting to create a View Form on USER_VIEWS

 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:49:37.0270 */
 SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and 
 owner = 'ARADMIN'
 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:49:37.0325 */OK
 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:49:37.0327 */
 SELECT table_name from all_synonyms where synonym_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and 
 owner = 'ARADMIN'
 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:49:37.0574 */OK
 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:49:37.0575 */
 Error - can't find table USER_VIEWS (owner = ARADMIN).

 Attempting to create a View Form on SYS.USER_VIEWS

 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:51:30.7681 */
 SELECT count(*) from all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and 
 owner = 'SYS'
 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:51:30.7696 */OK
 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:51:30.7699 */
 SELECT column_name,data_type,data_length,data_precision,data_scale from 
 all_tab_columns where table_name = 'USER_VIEWS' and owner = 'SYS'
 SQL   Queue: Admin Client-RPC: 390600 USER: fwgrooms /* Wed May 27 
 2009 10:51:30.7771 */OK


 Fred

 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:14 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

 Yes it does work from the SQL Client.  Sorry, I should have specified 
 that.

 Lisa

 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Joe DeSouza
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 11:01 AM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: View Forms and Synoyms

 I thought I'd ask you the very obvious question... Can you query the view 
 form as aradmin from the SQL client when logged in as aradmin using that same 
 view name???

 Joe
 
 From: Kemes, Lisa lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:44:30 AM
 Subject: View Forms and Synoyms

 Got a ticket into BMC, we are having problems using Synonyms for our View 
 Forms.  Getting Requested Database table not found.  Please check the 
 spelling (table name is case-sensitive) ARERR 481.

 We are on 7.01 patch 3.  I thought this bug was fixed with SW00180955?

 Oracle 10i
 Windows 2003

 Lisa Kemes
 AR System Developer
 Tyco Electronics
 717-810-2408 tel
 717-810-2124 fax
 lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com

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