AW: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property? RESOLVED

2009-02-26 Thread Conny Martin
All,
 
BMC has created a new defect ref for this issue.
 
SW00324113 
 
Kind Regards Conny



Von: Martin, Conny 
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Februar 2009 16:06
An: 'arslist@ARSLIST.ORG'
Betreff: AW: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
RESOLVED


Howard,
 
I reported this to BMC. I'm waiting for response. I'll let you know the
result.
 
Kind Regards Conny



Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von Charles Baldi
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Februar 2009 16:04
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
RESOLVED


** 
Howard,
 
As others on the thread have said, the 4k limit appears to be a database
one.  The 2k limit is a bug.
 
Chuck


On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Howard Richter 
wrote:


** 
Chuck,
 
Great news, bowever, is the size limit a bug with that patch or
a new feature going forward?
 
Howard


On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Charles Baldi
 wrote:


** 
All,
I was able to update the table query in question.  Here
is what I did:
 
1.  Downgraded my Admin tool to 7.1 patch 3 (thanks
Conny).  This allows creation of qualification strings up to 4k (4096
chars).
 
2.  Since the OOB qual was already at 4081 chars, I
could barely add the EXTERNAL() before running out of room.  So I took
the OOB qual and removed a pile of the superfluous spaces that the Admin
tool adds to the qual, such as those around the "=", etc.  This got the
OOB qual down to 3727 chars.
 
3.  Because I'm adding a half-dozen custom fields to the
qual, the addition would still put it over the 4k limit, so I added
another "AND EXTERNAL(custom_do_field)" and loaded my addition on Window
Open. (thanks Scott and others).
 
The real trick was to remove the extra spaces to make
room.  It is important to save a copy of the "compressed" qual for later
because if you ever modify the table field, like to add a column, the
Admin tool will barf again because it will have expanded the qual with
the extra spaces again so that it exceeds the 4k limit.  Saving a copy
avoids having to remove all the spaces again. 
 
Thanks again,
Chuck Baldi


 
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Charles Baldi
 wrote:


Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will see what
I can get to work.  FYI my Admin tool is at 7.1p4 while the ARServer is
at 7.1p5.
 
I will let you all know the result.
 
Regards,
Chuck Baldi


On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Carey Matthew
Black  wrote:


However, you should also be warned that
in at least a previous version
(v5 or was it v6 era) there was a
practical limit to the length of
these qualifications. I was never clear
if it was a RDBMS limitation
or an ARS limitation, but I remember a
number like 4000 characters as
an upper limit to what actually works.
Which was true even if you used
the EXTERNAL() operator.

--
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled
Professional (BRSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.




On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott
Illari  wrote:
> **
>
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> I would follow these steps
>
> 1)  Create a hidden
display only character field on the
> form. Just be sure the DB size of the
field is 0 to hold the qualification
> if it ever grows.
 

AW: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property? RESOLVED

2009-02-13 Thread Conny Martin
Howard,
 
I reported this to BMC. I'm waiting for response. I'll let you know the
result.
 
Kind Regards Conny



Von: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] Im Auftrag von Charles Baldi
Gesendet: Freitag, 13. Februar 2009 16:04
An: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Betreff: Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
RESOLVED


** 
Howard,
 
As others on the thread have said, the 4k limit appears to be a database
one.  The 2k limit is a bug.
 
Chuck


On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Howard Richter 
wrote:


** 
Chuck,
 
Great news, bowever, is the size limit a bug with that patch or
a new feature going forward?
 
Howard


On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Charles Baldi
 wrote:


** 
All,
I was able to update the table query in question.  Here
is what I did:
 
1.  Downgraded my Admin tool to 7.1 patch 3 (thanks
Conny).  This allows creation of qualification strings up to 4k (4096
chars).
 
2.  Since the OOB qual was already at 4081 chars, I
could barely add the EXTERNAL() before running out of room.  So I took
the OOB qual and removed a pile of the superfluous spaces that the Admin
tool adds to the qual, such as those around the "=", etc.  This got the
OOB qual down to 3727 chars.
 
3.  Because I'm adding a half-dozen custom fields to the
qual, the addition would still put it over the 4k limit, so I added
another "AND EXTERNAL(custom_do_field)" and loaded my addition on Window
Open. (thanks Scott and others).
 
The real trick was to remove the extra spaces to make
room.  It is important to save a copy of the "compressed" qual for later
because if you ever modify the table field, like to add a column, the
Admin tool will barf again because it will have expanded the qual with
the extra spaces again so that it exceeds the 4k limit.  Saving a copy
avoids having to remove all the spaces again. 
 
Thanks again,
Chuck Baldi


 
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Charles Baldi
 wrote:


Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will see what
I can get to work.  FYI my Admin tool is at 7.1p4 while the ARServer is
at 7.1p5.
 
I will let you all know the result.
 
Regards,
Chuck Baldi


On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Carey Matthew
Black  wrote:


However, you should also be warned that
in at least a previous version
(v5 or was it v6 era) there was a
practical limit to the length of
these qualifications. I was never clear
if it was a RDBMS limitation
or an ARS limitation, but I remember a
number like 4000 characters as
an upper limit to what actually works.
Which was true even if you used
the EXTERNAL() operator.

--
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled
Professional (BRSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.




On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott
Illari  wrote:
> **
>
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> I would follow these steps
>
> 1)  Create a hidden
display only character field on the
> form. Just be sure the DB size of the
field is 0 to hold the qualification
> if it ever grows.
>
> 2)  Update the table
field so the qualification is
> EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)
>
> 3)  Have an Active
Link set the displa

Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property? RESOLVED

2009-02-13 Thread Charles Baldi
Howard,

As others on the thread have said, the 4k limit appears to be a database
one.  The 2k limit is a bug.

Chuck

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Howard Richter  wrote:

> ** Chuck,
>
> Great news, bowever, is the size limit a bug with that patch or a new
> feature going forward?
>
> Howard
>
> On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Charles Baldi wrote:
>
>> **
>>  All,
>> I was able to update the table query in question.  Here is what I did:
>>
>> 1.  Downgraded my Admin tool to 7.1 patch 3 (thanks Conny).  This allows
>> creation of qualification strings up to 4k (4096 chars).
>>
>> 2.  Since the OOB qual was already at 4081 chars, I could barely add the
>> EXTERNAL() before running out of room.  So I took the OOB qual and removed a
>> pile of the superfluous spaces that the Admin tool adds to the qual, such as
>> those around the "=", etc.  This got the OOB qual down to 3727 chars.
>>
>> 3.  Because I'm adding a half-dozen custom fields to the qual, the
>> addition would still put it over the 4k limit, so I added another "AND
>> EXTERNAL(custom_do_field)" and loaded my addition on Window Open. (thanks
>> Scott and others).
>>
>> The real trick was to remove the extra spaces to make room.  It is
>> important to save a copy of the "compressed" qual for later because if you
>> ever modify the table field, like to add a column, the Admin tool will barf
>> again because it will have expanded the qual with the extra spaces again so
>> that it exceeds the 4k limit.  Saving a copy avoids having to remove all the
>> spaces again.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Chuck Baldi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Charles Baldi 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will see what I can get to work.  FYI
>>> my Admin tool is at 7.1p4 while the ARServer is at 7.1p5.
>>>
>>> I will let you all know the result.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck Baldi
>>>
>>>   On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Carey Matthew Black <
>>> black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> However, you should also be warned that in at least a previous version
>>>> (v5 or was it v6 era) there was a practical limit to the length of
>>>> these qualifications. I was never clear if it was a RDBMS limitation
>>>> or an ARS limitation, but I remember a number like 4000 characters as
>>>> an upper limit to what actually works. Which was true even if you used
>>>> the EXTERNAL() operator.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Carey Matthew Black
>>>> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP)
>>>> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>>>>
>>>> Love, then teach
>>>> Solution = People + Process + Tools
>>>> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Illari 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > **
>>>> >
>>>> > Chuck,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > I would follow these steps
>>>> >
>>>> > 1)  Create a hidden display only character field on
>>>> the
>>>> > form. Just be sure the DB size of the field is 0 to hold the
>>>> qualification
>>>> > if it ever grows.
>>>> >
>>>> > 2)      Update the table field so the qualification is
>>>> > EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)
>>>> >
>>>> > 3)  Have an Active Link set the display only field on
>>>> Window
>>>> > Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever works for you)
>>>> >
>>>> > 4)  Have the next action perform a Change Fields that
>>>> > refreshes the table.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Hope that helps.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Scott Illari
>>>> >
>>>> > 908-601-8948
>>>> >
>>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>>> > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Charles Baldi
>>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:30 PM
>>>> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>&g

Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property? RESOLVED

2009-02-13 Thread Howard Richter
Chuck,

Great news, bowever, is the size limit a bug with that patch or a new
feature going forward?

Howard

On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Charles Baldi wrote:

> ** All,
> I was able to update the table query in question.  Here is what I did:
>
> 1.  Downgraded my Admin tool to 7.1 patch 3 (thanks Conny).  This allows
> creation of qualification strings up to 4k (4096 chars).
>
> 2.  Since the OOB qual was already at 4081 chars, I could barely add the
> EXTERNAL() before running out of room.  So I took the OOB qual and removed a
> pile of the superfluous spaces that the Admin tool adds to the qual, such as
> those around the "=", etc.  This got the OOB qual down to 3727 chars.
>
> 3.  Because I'm adding a half-dozen custom fields to the qual, the addition
> would still put it over the 4k limit, so I added another "AND
> EXTERNAL(custom_do_field)" and loaded my addition on Window Open. (thanks
> Scott and others).
>
> The real trick was to remove the extra spaces to make room.  It is
> important to save a copy of the "compressed" qual for later because if you
> ever modify the table field, like to add a column, the Admin tool will barf
> again because it will have expanded the qual with the extra spaces again so
> that it exceeds the 4k limit.  Saving a copy avoids having to remove all the
> spaces again.
>
> Thanks again,
> Chuck Baldi
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Charles Baldi wrote:
>
>> Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will see what I can get to work.  FYI
>> my Admin tool is at 7.1p4 while the ARServer is at 7.1p5.
>>
>> I will let you all know the result.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Chuck Baldi
>>
>>   On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Carey Matthew Black <
>> black@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> However, you should also be warned that in at least a previous version
>>> (v5 or was it v6 era) there was a practical limit to the length of
>>> these qualifications. I was never clear if it was a RDBMS limitation
>>> or an ARS limitation, but I remember a number like 4000 characters as
>>> an upper limit to what actually works. Which was true even if you used
>>> the EXTERNAL() operator.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carey Matthew Black
>>> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP)
>>> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>>>
>>> Love, then teach
>>> Solution = People + Process + Tools
>>> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Illari 
>>> wrote:
>>> > **
>>> >
>>> > Chuck,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I would follow these steps
>>> >
>>> > 1)  Create a hidden display only character field on the
>>> > form. Just be sure the DB size of the field is 0 to hold the
>>> qualification
>>> > if it ever grows.
>>> >
>>> > 2)  Update the table field so the qualification is
>>> > EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)
>>> >
>>> > 3)  Have an Active Link set the display only field on
>>> Window
>>> > Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever works for you)
>>> >
>>> > 4)  Have the next action perform a Change Fields that
>>> > refreshes the table.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hope that helps.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Scott Illari
>>> >
>>> > 908-601-8948
>>> >
>>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>>> > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Charles Baldi
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:30 PM
>>> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>>> > Subject: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > **
>>> >
>>> > Hello all,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident
>>> Assoc
>>> > Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.
>>>  However,
>>> > the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let
>>> me add
>>> > to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the
>>> field
>>> > if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE
>>> qualification
>>> > string here.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Does anyone know how to do this?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > ARS 7.1 p5
>>> > ITSM 7.0.03 p8
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks in advance,
>>> >
>>> > Chuck Baldi
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property? RESOLVED

2009-02-13 Thread Charles Baldi
All,
I was able to update the table query in question.  Here is what I did:

1.  Downgraded my Admin tool to 7.1 patch 3 (thanks Conny).  This allows
creation of qualification strings up to 4k (4096 chars).

2.  Since the OOB qual was already at 4081 chars, I could barely add the
EXTERNAL() before running out of room.  So I took the OOB qual and removed a
pile of the superfluous spaces that the Admin tool adds to the qual, such as
those around the "=", etc.  This got the OOB qual down to 3727 chars.

3.  Because I'm adding a half-dozen custom fields to the qual, the addition
would still put it over the 4k limit, so I added another "AND
EXTERNAL(custom_do_field)" and loaded my addition on Window Open. (thanks
Scott and others).

The real trick was to remove the extra spaces to make room.  It is important
to save a copy of the "compressed" qual for later because if you ever modify
the table field, like to add a column, the Admin tool will barf again
because it will have expanded the qual with the extra spaces again so that
it exceeds the 4k limit.  Saving a copy avoids having to remove all the
spaces again.

Thanks again,
Chuck Baldi



On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Charles Baldi wrote:

> Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will see what I can get to work.  FYI my
> Admin tool is at 7.1p4 while the ARServer is at 7.1p5.
>
> I will let you all know the result.
>
> Regards,
> Chuck Baldi
>
>   On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Carey Matthew Black <
> black@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> However, you should also be warned that in at least a previous version
>> (v5 or was it v6 era) there was a practical limit to the length of
>> these qualifications. I was never clear if it was a RDBMS limitation
>> or an ARS limitation, but I remember a number like 4000 characters as
>> an upper limit to what actually works. Which was true even if you used
>> the EXTERNAL() operator.
>>
>> --
>> Carey Matthew Black
>> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP)
>> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>>
>> Love, then teach
>> Solution = People + Process + Tools
>> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Illari 
>> wrote:
>> > **
>> >
>> > Chuck,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I would follow these steps
>> >
>> > 1)  Create a hidden display only character field on the
>> > form. Just be sure the DB size of the field is 0 to hold the
>> qualification
>> > if it ever grows.
>> >
>> > 2)  Update the table field so the qualification is
>> > EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)
>> >
>> > 3)  Have an Active Link set the display only field on
>> Window
>> > Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever works for you)
>> >
>> > 4)  Have the next action perform a Change Fields that
>> > refreshes the table.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Hope that helps.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Scott Illari
>> >
>> > 908-601-8948
>> >
>> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
>> > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Charles Baldi
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:30 PM
>> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
>> > Subject: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > **
>> >
>> > Hello all,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident
>> Assoc
>> > Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.
>>  However,
>> > the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let me
>> add
>> > to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the
>> field
>> > if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE
>> qualification
>> > string here.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Does anyone know how to do this?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ARS 7.1 p5
>> > ITSM 7.0.03 p8
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance,
>> >
>> > Chuck Baldi
>>
>>
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Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

2009-02-12 Thread Charles Baldi
Thanks for all the suggestions.  I will see what I can get to work.  FYI my
Admin tool is at 7.1p4 while the ARServer is at 7.1p5.

I will let you all know the result.

Regards,
Chuck Baldi

On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:17 AM, Carey Matthew Black wrote:

> However, you should also be warned that in at least a previous version
> (v5 or was it v6 era) there was a practical limit to the length of
> these qualifications. I was never clear if it was a RDBMS limitation
> or an ARS limitation, but I remember a number like 4000 characters as
> an upper limit to what actually works. Which was true even if you used
> the EXTERNAL() operator.
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Illari 
> wrote:
> > **
> >
> > Chuck,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would follow these steps
> >
> > 1)  Create a hidden display only character field on the
> > form. Just be sure the DB size of the field is 0 to hold the
> qualification
> > if it ever grows.
> >
> > 2)  Update the table field so the qualification is
> > EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)
> >
> > 3)  Have an Active Link set the display only field on
> Window
> > Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever works for you)
> >
> > 4)  Have the next action perform a Change Fields that
> > refreshes the table.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope that helps.
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott Illari
> >
> > 908-601-8948
> >
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> > [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Charles Baldi
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:30 PM
> > To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> > Subject: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
> >
> >
> >
> > **
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> >
> >
> > I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident Assoc
> > Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.
>  However,
> > the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let me
> add
> > to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the
> field
> > if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE
> qualification
> > string here.
> >
> >
> >
> > Does anyone know how to do this?
> >
> >
> >
> > ARS 7.1 p5
> > ITSM 7.0.03 p8
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Chuck Baldi
>
>
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Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

2009-02-12 Thread Carey Matthew Black
However, you should also be warned that in at least a previous version
(v5 or was it v6 era) there was a practical limit to the length of
these qualifications. I was never clear if it was a RDBMS limitation
or an ARS limitation, but I remember a number like 4000 characters as
an upper limit to what actually works. Which was true even if you used
the EXTERNAL() operator.

-- 
Carey Matthew Black
BMC Remedy AR System Skilled Professional (BRSP)
ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)

Love, then teach
Solution = People + Process + Tools
Fast, Accurate, Cheap Pick two.



On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Scott Illari  wrote:
> **
>
> Chuck,
>
>
>
> I would follow these steps
>
> 1)  Create a hidden display only character field on the
> form. Just be sure the DB size of the field is 0 to hold the qualification
> if it ever grows.
>
> 2)  Update the table field so the qualification is
> EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)
>
> 3)  Have an Active Link set the display only field on Window
> Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever works for you)
>
> 4)  Have the next action perform a Change Fields that
> refreshes the table.
>
>
>
> Hope that helps.
>
>
>
> Scott Illari
>
> 908-601-8948
>
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari
>
>
>
> From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
> [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Charles Baldi
> Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:30 PM
> To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> Subject: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?
>
>
>
> **
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident Assoc
> Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.  However,
> the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let me add
> to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the field
> if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE qualification
> string here.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know how to do this?
>
>
>
> ARS 7.1 p5
> ITSM 7.0.03 p8
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Chuck Baldi

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Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

2009-02-12 Thread Peter Romain
One trick that used to work was to replace the field names in the
qualification with field IDs.

The shorter qualification saved and when viewed again the field ids were
replaced with field names.



> Hello all,
>
> I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident Assoc
> Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.  However,
> the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let me
> add
> to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the
> field
> if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE
> qualification
> string here.
>
> Does anyone know how to do this?
>
> ARS 7.1 p5
> ITSM 7.0.03 p8
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Chuck Baldi
>
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AW: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

2009-02-12 Thread Conny Martin
Hi Chuck,
 
this seems to be a bug in the Admin Tool. We had the same problem, but
with Admin Tool 7.1p3 you can put long qualification strings (>2000
bytes) into the field.
 
Kind Regards Conny



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** 
Hello all,
 
I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident
Assoc Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.
However, the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will
not let me add to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification
back into the field if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for
pasting a HUGE qualification string here.
 
Does anyone know how to do this?
 
ARS 7.1 p5
ITSM 7.0.03 p8
 
Thanks in advance,
Chuck Baldi
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Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

2009-02-11 Thread Roys, Eric D
** 

As a side you may want to have your qual include $do field$ != $NULL$ to 
prevent an unqualified search on the table since that will not be immediately 
set. 

Hth,

Eric



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Chuck,

 

I would follow these steps

1)  Create a hidden display only character field on the form. 
Just be sure the DB size of the field is 0 to hold the qualification if it ever 
grows.

2)  Update the table field so the qualification is 
EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)

3)  Have an Active Link set the display only field on Window 
Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever works for you) 

4)  Have the next action perform a Change Fields that refreshes 
the table.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Scott Illari

908-601-8948

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Subject: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

 

** 

Hello all,

 

I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident Assoc 
Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.  However, the 
Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let me add to it. 
 I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the field if I 
remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE qualification string 
here.

 

Does anyone know how to do this?

 

ARS 7.1 p5

ITSM 7.0.03 p8

 

Thanks in advance,

Chuck Baldi

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Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

2009-02-11 Thread Joe DeSouza
Chuck,

I'd suggest taking an xml def of that table and edit the qualification in the 
def file but it might be kind of tedious. And then import that definition file.

Just curious but is the version of the Admin tool and the Server the same? If 
not it might be the logic in the Admin tool that is preventing the update.

Joe





From: Charles Baldi 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:30:21 PM
Subject: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

** 
Hello all,

I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident Assoc 
Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.  However, the 
Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let me add to 
it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the field if I 
remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE qualification string 
here.

Does anyone know how to do this?

ARS 7.1 p5
ITSM 7.0.03 p8

Thanks in advance,
Chuck Baldi




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Re: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Illari
Chuck,

 

I would follow these steps

1)  Create a hidden display only character field on the
form. Just be sure the DB size of the field is 0 to hold the qualification
if it ever grows.

2)  Update the table field so the qualification is
EXTERNAL($Display Only Field$)

3)  Have an Active Link set the display only field on Window
Open or Display or Loaded (Whichever works for you) 

4)  Have the next action perform a Change Fields that
refreshes the table.

 

Hope that helps.

 

Scott Illari

908-601-8948

 <http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari>
http://www.linkedin.com/in/scottillari

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 5:30 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

 

** 

Hello all,

 

I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident Assoc
Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.  However,
the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let me add
to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the field
if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE qualification
string here.

 

Does anyone know how to do this?

 

ARS 7.1 p5

ITSM 7.0.03 p8

 

Thanks in advance,

Chuck Baldi

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How to save huge qual string in Table / Tree Property?

2009-02-11 Thread Charles Baldi
Hello all,

I am trying to update the Table / Tree Property on the HPD:Incident Assoc
Search form to let users search for some of their custom fields.  However,
the Qualification string is so large that the Admin tool will not let me add
to it.  I can't even re-paste the original qualification back into the field
if I remove it.  So, BMC must have a trick for pasting a HUGE qualification
string here.

Does anyone know how to do this?

ARS 7.1 p5
ITSM 7.0.03 p8

Thanks in advance,
Chuck Baldi

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