Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun (Friday Humor)

[Meyer, Jennifer L]

I love that site.

Jennifer Meyer
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But ... Will it blend?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/apr/09/viral-video-chart-ipad

P.S. Sorry about the link to the UK for the video. But the company web
site appears to be "slow" or "non-responsive" to me. You should be
able to also find the video somewhere here too:
http://www.blendtec.com/willitblend/

:)

Spoiler alert: ..




He pushes the "i-blend button" in the video.

-- 
Carey Matthew Black

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, John Sundberg
 wrote:
> **
>
>
> I got an iPad -- it is quite sharp - and surprisingly fast.
> I loaded some Kinetic apps with the iPad.
> Check them out here:
>

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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun (Friday Humor)

[Carey Matthew Black]

But ... Will it blend?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/apr/09/viral-video-chart-ipad

P.S. Sorry about the link to the UK for the video. But the company web
site appears to be "slow" or "non-responsive" to me. You should be
able to also find the video somewhere here too:
http://www.blendtec.com/willitblend/

:)

Spoiler alert: ..




He pushes the "i-blend button" in the video.

-- 
Carey Matthew Black

On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 11:22 AM, John Sundberg
 wrote:
> **
>
>
> I got an iPad -- it is quite sharp - and surprisingly fast.
> I loaded some Kinetic apps with the iPad.
> Check them out here:
>
> Kinetic Catalog
> http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kd4/skitched-20100405-100747
> Ordering a PC
> http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kd7/skitched-20100405-100808
> Kinetic Calendar
> http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kry/skitched-20100405-100835
> iPad Homescreen
> http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kry/skitched-20100405-100835
>
>
> I would think this would make for an excellent mobile IT device if you were
> roaming around doing repairs. Very fast, easily viewable, reasonable to type
> -- full web functionality.
>
>
>
> If anybody wants me to try something specific - let me know.
>
> -John
>
>
>
>
> --
> John Sundberg
>
> Kinetic Data, Inc.
> "Building a Better Service Experience"
> Recipient of the WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award
>
> john.sundb...@kineticdata.com
> 651.556.0930  I  www.kineticdata.com

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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Shellman, David]

Ian,

Thanks for the info.  This shows that the issue is more with the port of Safari 
or the iPhone/Touch/iPad OS or even a combination of the two.

There is an interesting article on Gizmodo titled "Understanding the iPad's 
Software"  Here is a portion that talks about Safari:

"Safari's one place where the iPad's memory shortage makes itself apparent, 
since you're limited to nine windows, and quite often, it dumps the contents of 
a window, so when you go back you'll have to reload the whole page. That's 
pretty annoying. This is also, I suspect, why it doesn't have true tabs: People 
aren't encouraged to open a bunch, because it can't handle it. Still, tabs 
would be incredibly welcome for the sheer fact that the iPhone-originated 
process of switching between windows (click the button, you're taken to a 
thumbnail view of your windows, then click the window) feels more tedious than 
ever. With this nice big display, it shouldn't take two screens and multiple 
seconds to switch to a new window when everything else practically flies."

The complete article can be found at 
http://gizmodo.com/5510655/understanding-the-ipads-software

Dave


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Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

** On 07/04/2010 01:37, Shellman, David wrote:
**
Hmmm.  Safari is a supported browser.  The iPad is using a variant of the 
iPhone/Touch OS.  Mostly soon to be the same version.

Has anyone been able to connect to MidTier using the Safari browser on an 
iPhone or Touch?  If so then the issue may reside with the Safari port for the 
iPad which hopefully would be corrected with the next patch?

Dave

The problems that John experienced with the iPad are exactly the same as those 
I experienced with the iPhone.  I should therefore assume that the Safari 
browser on the iPad is the same as that on the iPhone - you just see a larger 
web page :-)

I have done a few workarounds on forms that I wanted to use on the iPhone.  For 
example, on a table I have added a button to each row allowing users to select 
a row (we are using ARS 7.5).  I am unsure what it is that the iPhone/iPad 
Safari is missing to stop the Mid-Tier working properly.  It would be extremely 
useful to know whether this is something that BMC is looking into but I can't 
imaging that it is high on their list of priorities.

Ian

Ian Trimnell, AR System Lead Developer (amongst other jobs),
Specialist Support & Development, Training & Support Services, Academic & 
Administrative Computing Service
Open University, MILTON KEYNES, UK
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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Ian Trimnell]

On 07/04/2010 01:37, Shellman, David wrote:

**
Hmmm.  Safari is a supported browser.  The iPad is using a variant of 
the iPhone/Touch OS.  Mostly soon to be the same version.
Has anyone been able to connect to MidTier using the Safari browser on 
an iPhone or Touch?  If so then the issue may reside with the Safari 
port for the iPad which hopefully would be corrected with the next patch?

Dave


The problems that John experienced with the iPad are exactly the same as 
those I experienced with the iPhone.  I should therefore assume that the 
Safari browser on the iPad is the same as that on the iPhone - you just 
see a larger web page :-)


I have done a few workarounds on forms that I wanted to use on the 
iPhone.  For example, on a table I have added a button to each row 
allowing users to select a row (we are using ARS 7.5).  I am unsure what 
it is that the iPhone/iPad Safari is missing to stop the Mid-Tier 
working properly.  It would be extremely useful to know whether this is 
something that BMC is looking into but I can't imaging that it is high 
on their list of priorities.


Ian


Ian Trimnell, AR System Lead Developer (amongst other jobs),
Specialist Support & Development, Training & Support Services, Academic 
& Administrative Computing Service

Open University, MILTON KEYNES, UK
Phone: 01908 653741   web: http://www.open.ac.uk/
The Open University is incorporated by Royal Charter (RC 000391), an 
exempt charity in England & Wales and a charity registered in Scotland 
(SC 038302).


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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Jason Miller]

Companies switching to a more modern browser?  Come on John, hold these kind
of postings for Friday :)

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 3:05 PM, John Sundberg  wrote:

> **
>
> I think HTML5 has stepped up to the plate -- my guess is it will be easier
> and more in BMC's control to switch to that.
>
> The question is -- will large companies switch to a more modern browser.
>
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Reinfeldt wrote:
>
> **
> John,
>
> If Apple does not lift its ban on Flash technology, and if BMC does not
> move away from it… not sure how they will “address” it… one can always hope,
> though.
>
> Matt
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [
> mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG ] *On Behalf Of *John
> Sundberg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:47 PM
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun
>
> **
>
> I have been sent a couple of links to external facing ARS -- both I think
> were 7.6.
>
> One was ITSM 7.6
> One was a custom simple app
>
>
> Unfortunately - neither worked.
>
> I did not do a lot of testing -- as the issues I found were early show
> stoppers:
>
> 1) You cannot select an item in a row (rendering consoles useless) (The
> iPad asks me if I want to copy the row)
> 2) You cannot select an item in a dropdown menu (rendering my available
> forms useless) (The iPad does nothing -- as if I have not clicked on it at
> all)
>
> I could however login and see the homepage.
> I was able to click on "approval central" and technically "get there" --
> however error messages that popped must have been serious enough - as I was
> unable to do anything once I got there. (meaning -- I was not able to select
> the "Approval tasks" (Needs Attention, etc...) or again -- any dropdown
> menus)
>
> So -- I was unable to look at any console/click on a record/and see an
> entry.
>
> Also -- I was unable to create a record - as the forms I had access to seem
> to all have at least one menu (Priority for example)
>
>
>
> It is early days -- I expect BMC will be able to address.
>
>
> I did check to see if the browser on the iPad is Acid3 compliant -- it
> appears it is.
> http://img.skitch.com/20100406-kutr5pmp4c3ud5ch4fire9i76s.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> -John
>
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>
> --
> John Sundberg
>
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> "Building a Better Service Experience"
> Recipient of the WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award
>
> john.sundb...@kineticdata.com
> 651.556.0930  I  www.kineticdata.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Shellman, David]

Hmmm.  Safari is a supported browser.  The iPad is using a variant of the 
iPhone/Touch OS.  Mostly soon to be the same version.

Has anyone been able to connect to MidTier using the Safari browser on an 
iPhone or Touch?  If so then the issue may reside with the Safari port for the 
iPad which hopefully would be corrected with the next patch?

Dave


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Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:06 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

**

I think HTML5 has stepped up to the plate -- my guess is it will be easier and 
more in BMC's control to switch to that.

The question is -- will large companies switch to a more modern browser.



-John



On Apr 6, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Reinfeldt wrote:

**
John,
If Apple does not lift its ban on Flash technology, and if BMC does not move 
away from it... not sure how they will "address" it... one can always hope, 
though.
Matt
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To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG<mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG>
Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun
**
I have been sent a couple of links to external facing ARS -- both I think were 
7.6.
One was ITSM 7.6
One was a custom simple app
Unfortunately - neither worked.
I did not do a lot of testing -- as the issues I found were early show stoppers:
1) You cannot select an item in a row (rendering consoles useless) (The iPad 
asks me if I want to copy the row)
2) You cannot select an item in a dropdown menu (rendering my available forms 
useless) (The iPad does nothing -- as if I have not clicked on it at all)
I could however login and see the homepage.
I was able to click on "approval central" and technically "get there" -- 
however error messages that popped must have been serious enough - as I was 
unable to do anything once I got there. (meaning -- I was not able to select 
the "Approval tasks" (Needs Attention, etc...) or again -- any dropdown menus)
So -- I was unable to look at any console/click on a record/and see an entry.
Also -- I was unable to create a record - as the forms I had access to seem to 
all have at least one menu (Priority for example)
It is early days -- I expect BMC will be able to address.
I did check to see if the browser on the iPad is Acid3 compliant -- it appears 
it is.
http://img.skitch.com/20100406-kutr5pmp4c3ud5ch4fire9i76s.jpg
-John
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Recipient of the WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award

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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[John Sundberg]

I think HTML5 has stepped up to the plate -- my guess is it will be  
easier and more in BMC's control to switch to that.


The question is -- will large companies switch to a more modern browser.



-John



On Apr 6, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Matt Reinfeldt wrote:

**
John,

If Apple does not lift its ban on Flash technology, and if BMC does  
not move away from it… not sure how they will “address” it… one can  
always hope, though.


Matt

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] On Behalf Of John Sundberg

Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:47 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

**

I have been sent a couple of links to external facing ARS -- both I  
think were 7.6.


One was ITSM 7.6
One was a custom simple app


Unfortunately - neither worked.

I did not do a lot of testing -- as the issues I found were early show  
stoppers:


1) You cannot select an item in a row (rendering consoles useless)  
(The iPad asks me if I want to copy the row)
2) You cannot select an item in a dropdown menu (rendering my  
available forms useless) (The iPad does nothing -- as if I have not  
clicked on it at all)


I could however login and see the homepage.
I was able to click on "approval central" and technically "get there"  
-- however error messages that popped must have been serious enough -  
as I was unable to do anything once I got there. (meaning -- I was not  
able to select the "Approval tasks" (Needs Attention, etc...) or again  
-- any dropdown menus)


So -- I was unable to look at any console/click on a record/and see an  
entry.


Also -- I was unable to create a record - as the forms I had access to  
seem to all have at least one menu (Priority for example)




It is early days -- I expect BMC will be able to address.


I did check to see if the browser on the iPad is Acid3 compliant -- it  
appears it is.

http://img.skitch.com/20100406-kutr5pmp4c3ud5ch4fire9i76s.jpg





-John

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Recipient of the WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award

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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Jason Miller]

We have a few of them here at work.  We already have Citrix working on it.
It would be a bummer to have to use that as a middle layer but could be an
option.

Jason

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Matt Reinfeldt wrote:

> **
>
> John,
>
>
>
> If Apple does not lift its ban on Flash technology, and if BMC does not
> move away from it… not sure how they will “address” it… one can always hope,
> though.
>
>
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> arsl...@arslist.org] *On Behalf Of *John Sundberg
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:47 PM
>
> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
> I have been sent a couple of links to external facing ARS -- both I think
> were 7.6.
>
>
>
> One was ITSM 7.6
>
> One was a custom simple app
>
>
>
>
>
> Unfortunately - neither worked.
>
>
>
> I did not do a lot of testing -- as the issues I found were early show
> stoppers:
>
>
>
> 1) You cannot select an item in a row (rendering consoles useless) (The
> iPad asks me if I want to copy the row)
>
> 2) You cannot select an item in a dropdown menu (rendering my available
> forms useless) (The iPad does nothing -- as if I have not clicked on it at
> all)
>
>
>
> I could however login and see the homepage.
>
> I was able to click on "approval central" and technically "get there" --
> however error messages that popped must have been serious enough - as I was
> unable to do anything once I got there. (meaning -- I was not able to select
> the "Approval tasks" (Needs Attention, etc...) or again -- any dropdown
> menus)
>
>
>
> So -- I was unable to look at any console/click on a record/and see an
> entry.
>
>
>
> Also -- I was unable to create a record - as the forms I had access to seem
> to all have at least one menu (Priority for example)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It is early days -- I expect BMC will be able to address.
>
>
>
>
>
> I did check to see if the browser on the iPad is Acid3 compliant -- it
> appears it is.
>
> http://img.skitch.com/20100406-kutr5pmp4c3ud5ch4fire9i76s.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -John
>
>
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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Matt Reinfeldt]

John,

 

If Apple does not lift its ban on Flash technology, and if BMC does not move
away from it. not sure how they will "address" it. one can always hope,
though. 

 

Matt

 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of John Sundberg
Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2010 3:47 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

 

** 

 

I have been sent a couple of links to external facing ARS -- both I think
were 7.6.

 

One was ITSM 7.6

One was a custom simple app

 

 

Unfortunately - neither worked.

 

I did not do a lot of testing -- as the issues I found were early show
stoppers:

 

1) You cannot select an item in a row (rendering consoles useless) (The iPad
asks me if I want to copy the row)

2) You cannot select an item in a dropdown menu (rendering my available
forms useless) (The iPad does nothing -- as if I have not clicked on it at
all)

 

I could however login and see the homepage.

I was able to click on "approval central" and technically "get there" --
however error messages that popped must have been serious enough - as I was
unable to do anything once I got there. (meaning -- I was not able to select
the "Approval tasks" (Needs Attention, etc...) or again -- any dropdown
menus)

 

So -- I was unable to look at any console/click on a record/and see an
entry.

 

Also -- I was unable to create a record - as the forms I had access to seem
to all have at least one menu (Priority for example)

 

 

 

It is early days -- I expect BMC will be able to address.

 

 

I did check to see if the browser on the iPad is Acid3 compliant -- it
appears it is.

http://img.skitch.com/20100406-kutr5pmp4c3ud5ch4fire9i76s.jpg

 

 

 

 

 

-John

 


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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Jason Miller]

This sounds very similar to what I have seen trying to use a Blackberry with
Mid-Tier.

Jason

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 1:46 PM, John Sundberg  wrote:

> **
>
> I have been sent a couple of links to external facing ARS -- both I think
> were 7.6.
>
> One was ITSM 7.6
> One was a custom simple app
>
>
> Unfortunately - neither worked.
>
> I did not do a lot of testing -- as the issues I found were early show
> stoppers:
>
> 1) You cannot select an item in a row (rendering consoles useless) (The
> iPad asks me if I want to copy the row)
> 2) You cannot select an item in a dropdown menu (rendering my available
> forms useless) (The iPad does nothing -- as if I have not clicked on it at
> all)
>
> I could however login and see the homepage.
> I was able to click on "approval central" and technically "get there" --
> however error messages that popped must have been serious enough - as I was
> unable to do anything once I got there. (meaning -- I was not able to select
> the "Approval tasks" (Needs Attention, etc...) or again -- any dropdown
> menus)
>
> So -- I was unable to look at any console/click on a record/and see an
> entry.
>
> Also -- I was unable to create a record - as the forms I had access to seem
> to all have at least one menu (Priority for example)
>
>
>
> It is early days -- I expect BMC will be able to address.
>
>
> I did check to see if the browser on the iPad is Acid3 compliant -- it
> appears it is.
> http://img.skitch.com/20100406-kutr5pmp4c3ud5ch4fire9i76s.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Doug Blair wrote:
>
> **
> John,
>
> So to resurrect a thread from a couple of months ago, do other Remedy apps
> work on your iPad, or is there too much dependency on Flash in the current
> versions?  I don't expect Flashboards or the CI viewer, but how about
> minimal functionality on an Incident? Safari's a supported browser.
>
> I don't expect the iPad to be able to do *everything* in 1st iteration, but
> I was impressed with Steven Colbert's use of an IPad as vegetable slicer the
> other night. Can't really do that well with an iPhone.
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:29 AM, John Sundberg wrote:
>
> **
>
> I checked and yes Kinetic Response works with the iPad. So the idea is a
> mobile worker or manager in a meeting can immediately connect up and see the
> high priority issues and participate if needed.
>
> BTW - I am responding with the iPad.
>
> It is surprisingly fast - not sure if it is because of the ssd hard drive
> or possibly because for the most part it is single tasking - either way - I
> like it.
>
> -John
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, "Paolino, Andrew" 
> wrote:
>
> **
>
> And somewhere between 300,000 and 700,000 people agree. Despite some of the
> obvious limitations of the technology, there’s certainly a demographic that
> is (at least initially) finding this useful.
>
>
>
> John – Does KD Response work as well? I could see IT folks in the field
> using this tool to collaborate on complex open issues….
>
>
>
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> *To:* arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
> *Subject:* Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun
>
>
>
> **
>
> I got one for my mom. She wants to use a computer and access the internet.
> She’s never used a computer and hates using a mouse. She loves pointing at
> things. The iPad is pretty much the perfect device for someone like that.
> J
>
>
>
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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[John Sundberg]

I have been sent a couple of links to external facing ARS -- both I  
think were 7.6.


One was ITSM 7.6
One was a custom simple app


Unfortunately - neither worked.

I did not do a lot of testing -- as the issues I found were early show  
stoppers:


1) You cannot select an item in a row (rendering consoles useless)  
(The iPad asks me if I want to copy the row)
2) You cannot select an item in a dropdown menu (rendering my  
available forms useless) (The iPad does nothing -- as if I have not  
clicked on it at all)


I could however login and see the homepage.
I was able to click on "approval central" and technically "get there"  
-- however error messages that popped must have been serious enough -  
as I was unable to do anything once I got there. (meaning -- I was not  
able to select the "Approval tasks" (Needs Attention, etc...) or again  
-- any dropdown menus)


So -- I was unable to look at any console/click on a record/and see an  
entry.


Also -- I was unable to create a record - as the forms I had access to  
seem to all have at least one menu (Priority for example)




It is early days -- I expect BMC will be able to address.


I did check to see if the browser on the iPad is Acid3 compliant -- it  
appears it is.

http://img.skitch.com/20100406-kutr5pmp4c3ud5ch4fire9i76s.jpg





-John




On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Doug Blair wrote:

**
John,

So to resurrect a thread from a couple of months ago, do other Remedy  
apps work on your iPad, or is there too much dependency on Flash in  
the current versions?  I don't expect Flashboards or the CI viewer,  
but how about minimal functionality on an Incident? Safari's a  
supported browser.


I don't expect the iPad to be able to do *everything* in 1st  
iteration, but I was impressed with Steven Colbert's use of an IPad as  
vegetable slicer the other night. Can't really do that well with an  
iPhone.


Doug


On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:29 AM, John Sundberg wrote:


**

I checked and yes Kinetic Response works with the iPad. So the idea  
is a mobile worker or manager in a meeting can immediately connect  
up and see the high priority issues and participate if needed.


BTW - I am responding with the iPad.

It is surprisingly fast - not sure if it is because of the ssd hard  
drive or possibly because for the most part it is single tasking -  
either way - I like it.


-John



Sent from my iPad

On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, "Paolino, Andrew"  
 wrote:



**
And somewhere between 300,000 and 700,000 people agree. Despite  
some of the obvious limitations of the technology, there’s  
certainly a demographic that is (at least initially) finding this  
useful.




John – Does KD Response work as well? I could see IT folks in the  
field using this tool to collaborate on complex open issues….




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Column Technologies



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Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun



**

I got one for my mom. She wants to use a computer and access the  
internet. She’s never used a computer and hates using a mouse. She  
loves pointing at things. The iPad is pretty much the perfect  
device for someone like that. J




Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst, Service Management

Mobile:646.483.2779



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn

Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun



Too bad BMC is so focused on moving things to Flash (CI Viewer,  
Flashboards, etc) and Apple seems to have a problem with Adobe.   
It’s cool that the Kinetic apps work, but I think I’ll be waiting  
for a Windows or Android based equivalent that costs $200 and is  
capable of things like copy and paste, multitasking, flash,  
installing software that doesn’t require the manufacturer’s  
approval, letting you change the battery, etc.




Sorry, I just don’t understand the fascination with recent Apple  
products.  It’s a great marketing tool if you can use it with your  
software, but as a consumer I am not convinced.  I played around  
with one at the Apple store and found it interesting, but it seems  
too limiting to me.


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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[John Sundberg]

Double checked my facts -- it is a .pdf of a visio.

So -- the email client may be able to view a visio -- but what I did  
see was a .pdf of the visio - as that is what was attached.



-John




On Apr 6, 2010, at 12:36 PM, John Sundberg wrote:


Doug,

I can check if the iPad works on the "latest version of MidTier" -- if  
somebody has an external link I can get to.


Otherwise - I will spin up a 7.5 and try it out -- and let you know.

One thing the iPad/Safari does not do - is upload files. (No real file  
system is available to upload from anyway) -- probably the same with  
download -- except I would imagine it does launch other apps with the  
file.


For example:
a ppt would open in Keynote.
a pdf would open in (some viewer).
etc...

I think it has quite a few "viewers" built into the mail application  
-- as I was able to see an XL ss and Visio diagrams in an email sent  
to me earlier today.
For a totally sweet usage of Kinetic Request -- Contract Management  
(it will be used to manage the "vendor onboarding process" at this  
company)




So - if anybody has an external 7.5+ Remedy app -- that they would  
like me to load on the iPad -- let me know.




-John



On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Doug Blair wrote:

**
John,

So to resurrect a thread from a couple of months ago, do other Remedy  
apps work on your iPad, or is there too much dependency on Flash in  
the current versions?  I don't expect Flashboards or the CI viewer,  
but how about minimal functionality on an Incident? Safari's a  
supported browser.


I don't expect the iPad to be able to do *everything* in 1st  
iteration, but I was impressed with Steven Colbert's use of an IPad as  
vegetable slicer the other night. Can't really do that well with an  
iPhone.


Doug


On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:29 AM, John Sundberg wrote:


**

I checked and yes Kinetic Response works with the iPad. So the idea  
is a mobile worker or manager in a meeting can immediately connect  
up and see the high priority issues and participate if needed.


BTW - I am responding with the iPad.

It is surprisingly fast - not sure if it is because of the ssd hard  
drive or possibly because for the most part it is single tasking -  
either way - I like it.


-John



Sent from my iPad

On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, "Paolino, Andrew"  
 wrote:



**
And somewhere between 300,000 and 700,000 people agree. Despite  
some of the obvious limitations of the technology, there’s  
certainly a demographic that is (at least initially) finding this  
useful.




John – Does KD Response work as well? I could see IT folks in the  
field using this tool to collaborate on complex open issues….




Andrew Paolino

Column Technologies



130 William Street, 8th Floor

New York, New York 10038



Cell: 551-486-2549

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Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun



**

I got one for my mom. She wants to use a computer and access the  
internet. She’s never used a computer and hates using a mouse. She  
loves pointing at things. The iPad is pretty much the perfect  
device for someone like that. J




Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst, Service Management

Mobile:646.483.2779



From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:arslist@ARSLIST.ORG 
] On Behalf Of Pierson, Shawn

Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun



Too bad BMC is so focused on moving things to Flash (CI Viewer,  
Flashboards, etc) and Apple seems to have a problem with Adobe.   
It’s cool that the Kinetic apps work, but I think I’ll be waiting  
for a Windows or Android based equivalent that costs $200 and is  
capable of things like copy and paste, multitasking, flash,  
installing software that doesn’t require the manufacturer’s  
approval, letting you change the battery, etc.




Sorry, I just don’t understand the fascination with recent Apple  
products.  It’s a great marketing tool if you can use it with your  
software, but as a consumer I am not convinced.  I played around  
with one at the Apple store and found it interesting, but it seems  
too limiting to me.


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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[John Sundberg]

Doug,

I can check if the iPad works on the "latest version of MidTier" -- if  
somebody has an external link I can get to.


Otherwise - I will spin up a 7.5 and try it out -- and let you know.

One thing the iPad/Safari does not do - is upload files. (No real file  
system is available to upload from anyway) -- probably the same with  
download -- except I would imagine it does launch other apps with the  
file.


For example:
a ppt would open in Keynote.
a pdf would open in (some viewer).
etc...

I think it has quite a few "viewers" built into the mail application  
-- as I was able to see an XL ss and Visio diagrams in an email sent  
to me earlier today.
For a totally sweet usage of Kinetic Request -- Contract Management  
(it will be used to manage the "vendor onboarding process" at this  
company)




So - if anybody has an external 7.5+ Remedy app -- that they would  
like me to load on the iPad -- let me know.




-John



On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:58 AM, Doug Blair wrote:

**
John,

So to resurrect a thread from a couple of months ago, do other Remedy  
apps work on your iPad, or is there too much dependency on Flash in  
the current versions?  I don't expect Flashboards or the CI viewer,  
but how about minimal functionality on an Incident? Safari's a  
supported browser.


I don't expect the iPad to be able to do *everything* in 1st  
iteration, but I was impressed with Steven Colbert's use of an IPad as  
vegetable slicer the other night. Can't really do that well with an  
iPhone.


Doug


On Apr 6, 2010, at 11:29 AM, John Sundberg wrote:


**

I checked and yes Kinetic Response works with the iPad. So the idea  
is a mobile worker or manager in a meeting can immediately connect  
up and see the high priority issues and participate if needed.


BTW - I am responding with the iPad.

It is surprisingly fast - not sure if it is because of the ssd hard  
drive or possibly because for the most part it is single tasking -  
either way - I like it.


-John



Sent from my iPad

On Apr 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, "Paolino, Andrew"  
 wrote:



**
And somewhere between 300,000 and 700,000 people agree. Despite  
some of the obvious limitations of the technology, there’s  
certainly a demographic that is (at least initially) finding this  
useful.




John – Does KD Response work as well? I could see IT folks in the  
field using this tool to collaborate on complex open issues….




Andrew Paolino

Column Technologies



130 William Street, 8th Floor

New York, New York 10038



Cell: 551-486-2549

Office: 201-676-0277

Fax: 212-227-3040

Email: apaol...@columnit.com

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**

I got one for my mom. She wants to use a computer and access the  
internet. She’s never used a computer and hates using a mouse. She  
loves pointing at things. The iPad is pretty much the perfect  
device for someone like that. J




Tauf Chowdhury | Forest Laboratories, Inc.

Analyst, Service Management

Mobile:646.483.2779



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Sent: Monday, April 05, 2010 2:18 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun



Too bad BMC is so focused on moving things to Flash (CI Viewer,  
Flashboards, etc) and Apple seems to have a problem with Adobe.   
It’s cool that the Kinetic apps work, but I think I’ll be waiting  
for a Windows or Android based equivalent that costs $200 and is  
capable of things like copy and paste, multitasking, flash,  
installing software that doesn’t require the manufacturer’s  
approval, letting you change the battery, etc.




Sorry, I just don’t understand the fascination with recent Apple  
products.  It’s a great marketing tool if you can use it with your  
software, but as a consumer I am not convinced.  I played around  
with one at the Apple store and found it interesting, but it seems  
too limiting to me.


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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

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**
John,So to resurrect a thread from a couple of months ago, do other Remedy apps work on your iPad, or is there too much dependency on Flash in the current versions?  I don't expect Flashboards or the CI viewer, but how about minimal functionality on an Incident? Safari's a supported browser.I don't expect the iPad to be able to do *everything* in 1st iteration, but I was impressed with Steven Colbert's use of an IPad as vegetable slicer the other night. Can't really do that well with an iPhone.DougOn Apr 6, 2010, at 11:29 AM, John Sundberg wrote:**
I checked and yes Kinetic Response works with the iPad. So the idea is a mobile worker or manager in a meeting can immediately connect up and see the high priority issues and participate if needed. BTW - I am responding with the iPad.It is surprisingly fast - not sure if it is because of the ssd hard drive or possibly because for the most part it is single tasking - either way - I like it.-JohnSent from my iPadOn Apr 5, 2010, at 4:47 PM, "Paolino, Andrew" <apaol...@columnit.com> wrote:**


And somewhere between 300,000
and 700,000 people agree. Despite some of the obvious limitations of the
technology, there’s certainly a demographic that is (at least initially)
finding this useful. John – Does KD Response work
as well? I could see IT folks in the field using this tool to collaborate on
complex open issues…. Andrew
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 ** I
got one for my mom. She wants to use a computer and access the internet. She’s
never used a computer and hates using a mouse. She loves pointing at things.
The iPad is pretty much the perfect device for someone like that. J 

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Subject: Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

 Too bad BMC is so focused on moving things to Flash (CI Viewer,
Flashboards, etc) and Apple seems to have a problem with Adobe.  It’s cool
that the Kinetic apps work, but I think I’ll be waiting for a Windows or
Android based equivalent that costs $200 and is capable of things like copy and
paste, multitasking, flash, installing software that doesn’t require the
manufacturer’s approval, letting you change the battery, etc. Sorry, I just don’t understand the fascination with recent Apple
products.  It’s a great marketing tool if you can use it with your
software, but as a consumer I am not convinced.  I played around with one
at the Apple store and found it interesting, but it seems too limiting to me.





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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[John Sundberg]

I checked and yes Kinetic Response works with the iPad. So the idea is a mobile 
worker or manager in a meeting can immediately connect up and see the high 
priority issues and participate if needed. 

BTW - I am responding with the iPad.

It is surprisingly fast - not sure if it is because of the ssd hard drive or 
possibly because for the most part it is single tasking - either way - I like 
it.

-John



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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Daniel Bloom]

I can think of a boat load of uses, and Rick, the airplane bit was of
interest to me as well, and yes, if the Kinetic product bypasses
the Flash limitation kudos to them, and a whole other set of uses for the
iPad become apparent.
 
Since I am a pragmatist and strive for simplicity, I think an extra 15
minutes to use one filter instead of 10,
I like the Apple approach. 
 
Granted, much of their approach is self serving protectionism which gets
annoying at times, but their build quality
and refinement is appealing.
 
That being said, I have to wait a few weeks to get my hands on one in Canada
so I could still change my mind
(although you can guess I am planning on buying one).
 
I'd go further, but I am already somewhat off topic. sorry.
 
 Dan
 
 

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** 

And somewhere between 300,000 and 700,000 people agree. Despite some of the
obvious limitations of the technology, there's certainly a demographic that
is (at least initially) finding this useful.

 

John - Does KD Response work as well? I could see IT folks in the field
using this tool to collaborate on complex open issues..

 

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Column Technologies

 

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** 

I got one for my mom. She wants to use a computer and access the internet.
She's never used a computer and hates using a mouse. She loves pointing at
things. The iPad is pretty much the perfect device for someone like that. J

 

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Too bad BMC is so focused on moving things to Flash (CI Viewer, Flashboards,
etc) and Apple seems to have a problem with Adobe.  It's cool that the
Kinetic apps work, but I think I'll be waiting for a Windows or Android
based equivalent that costs $200 and is capable of things like copy and
paste, multitasking, flash, installing software that doesn't require the
manufacturer's approval, letting you change the battery, etc.

 

Sorry, I just don't understand the fascination with recent Apple products.
It's a great marketing tool if you can use it with your software, but as a
consumer I am not convinced.  I played around with one at the Apple store
and found it interesting, but it seems too limiting to me.

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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Paolino, Andrew]

And somewhere between 300,000 and 700,000 people agree. Despite some of
the obvious limitations of the technology, there's certainly a
demographic that is (at least initially) finding this useful.

 

John - Does KD Response work as well? I could see IT folks in the field
using this tool to collaborate on complex open issues

 

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** 

I got one for my mom. She wants to use a computer and access the
internet. She's never used a computer and hates using a mouse. She loves
pointing at things. The iPad is pretty much the perfect device for
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Too bad BMC is so focused on moving things to Flash (CI Viewer,
Flashboards, etc) and Apple seems to have a problem with Adobe.  It's
cool that the Kinetic apps work, but I think I'll be waiting for a
Windows or Android based equivalent that costs $200 and is capable of
things like copy and paste, multitasking, flash, installing software
that doesn't require the manufacturer's approval, letting you change the
battery, etc.

 

Sorry, I just don't understand the fascination with recent Apple
products.  It's a great marketing tool if you can use it with your
software, but as a consumer I am not convinced.  I played around with
one at the Apple store and found it interesting, but it seems too
limiting to me.



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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Chowdhury, Tauf]

I got one for my mom. She wants to use a computer and access the
internet. She's never used a computer and hates using a mouse. She loves
pointing at things. The iPad is pretty much the perfect device for
someone like that. :-)

 

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Too bad BMC is so focused on moving things to Flash (CI Viewer,
Flashboards, etc) and Apple seems to have a problem with Adobe.  It's
cool that the Kinetic apps work, but I think I'll be waiting for a
Windows or Android based equivalent that costs $200 and is capable of
things like copy and paste, multitasking, flash, installing software
that doesn't require the manufacturer's approval, letting you change the
battery, etc.

 

Sorry, I just don't understand the fascination with recent Apple
products.  It's a great marketing tool if you can use it with your
software, but as a consumer I am not convinced.  I played around with
one at the Apple store and found it interesting, but it seems too
limiting to me.

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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Pierson, Shawn]

Too bad BMC is so focused on moving things to Flash (CI Viewer, Flashboards, 
etc) and Apple seems to have a problem with Adobe.  It's cool that the Kinetic 
apps work, but I think I'll be waiting for a Windows or Android based 
equivalent that costs $200 and is capable of things like copy and paste, 
multitasking, flash, installing software that doesn't require the 
manufacturer's approval, letting you change the battery, etc.

Sorry, I just don't understand the fascination with recent Apple products.  
It's a great marketing tool if you can use it with your software, but as a 
consumer I am not convinced.  I played around with one at the Apple store and 
found it interesting, but it seems too limiting to me.

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Subject: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

**



I got an iPad -- it is quite sharp - and surprisingly fast.

I loaded some Kinetic apps with the iPad.

Check them out here:


Kinetic Catalog
http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kd4/skitched-20100405-100747

Ordering a PC
http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kd7/skitched-20100405-100808

Kinetic Calendar
http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kry/skitched-20100405-100835

iPad Homescreen
http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kry/skitched-20100405-100835



I would think this would make for an excellent mobile IT device if you were 
roaming around doing repairs. Very fast, easily viewable, reasonable to type -- 
full web functionality.




If anybody wants me to try something specific - let me know.


-John





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Re: OT:Kinetic apps and some iPad fun

[Rick Cook]

That does look good.  The first thought I had regarding its usefulness was
on an airplane, where laptops often have their usefulness minimized by a
reclining seat back.  Given the battery life of these, it would be a viable
option as a remote IT tool.

Rick
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 8:22 AM, John Sundberg  wrote:

> **
>
>
>
> I got an iPad -- it is quite sharp - and surprisingly fast.
>
> I loaded some Kinetic apps with the iPad.
>
> Check them out here:
>
>
> Kinetic Catalog
> http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kd4/skitched-20100405-100747
>
> Ordering a PC
> http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kd7/skitched-20100405-100808
>
> Kinetic Calendar
> http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kry/skitched-20100405-100835
>
> iPad Homescreen
> http://skitch.com/johnsundberg/n7kry/skitched-20100405-100835
>
>
>
> I would think this would make for an excellent mobile IT device if you were
> roaming around doing repairs. Very fast, easily viewable, reasonable to type
> -- full web functionality.
>
>
>
>
> If anybody wants me to try something specific - let me know.
>
>
> -John
>
>
>
>
>
>--
> John Sundberg
>
> Kinetic Data, Inc.
> "Building a Better Service Experience"
> Recipient of the WWRUG09 Innovator of the Year Award
>
> john.sundb...@kineticdata.com
> 651.556.0930  I  www.kineticdata.com
>
>
>
>
>
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