Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

2010-05-04 Thread lisakemes
Joe Souza gave me some instructions on how to get rid of the fields that are
in the Fields Not In View and I cannot find the instructions.  Even though
I deleted these fields, they are still in Fields Not in View and are coming
up when creating Active Links, it's really irritating!

Does anyone have the instructions on how to get rid of them completely?  I
think I had to create a new view and all sorts of other things.

Why is it so hard to delete a field off of a form? (this is a display only
form as well).

ARS 7.1 p7
Windows 2003
Oracle 10g

Thanks!

Lisa




lisakemes wrote:
 
 Thanks!
 
 OK, they are in the Fields in View but they are on the Fields Not In
 View side.
 
 How do I get rid of them?
 
 
 Lisa
 
 
 
 
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 **
 Just to be safe look at the Fields in View.  Even on a single view form
 you can have fields not in the view
 
 Fred
 
 
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 Subject: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them
 
 **
 I deleted a bunch of fields off of my form and I still see them when I go
 to create an Active Link.
 
 I exported the form (and workflow), deleted the my form (which deletes the
 workflow) and reimported and I still see all the fields that I deleted.
 
 So I just deleted the Active Links and then reimported them, same thing.
 
 I do not have any views on this form and this is a display form.
 
 Lisa Kemes
 AR System Developer
 Tyco Electronics
 717-810-2408 tel
 717-810-2124 fax
 lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

2010-05-04 Thread Mueller, Doug
Lisa,

If the fields are in the Fields Not In View list, then they have not been
deleted.  They have simply been moved out of the view.

To delete a field, select the field and choose the Delete option (under the Edit
menu).

If a field is not in the view, you can either
   1) Go to a view that has the field in view
   2) Go to the Fields Not in View list and move it into the view

Then, the field is there, you can select it, and select the Delete option.

There will be a dialog that shows up asking if you really want to delete the
field.  Respond Yes to really delete the field.

Then, save the form.

The field will be deleted -- from the form and so from all views.

The only way that the field is present in the list of fields whether in view
or not in view is that it really exists and has not been deleted.  That would
be why you are seeing it on lists of fields -- it is really there.

Some people think that just by taking a field off the view -- moving it from in
view to not in view -- will delete it.  Only Deleting a field will gaurantee
deleting it.

Now, if the field is a piece of trim, removing from all views may cause the
field to be deleted because it no longer has meaning because all it is is a
display.  BUT, this is a side effect and may or may not happen (I don't remember
whether it does or not).  If you want a field deleted, select it and select the
Delete operation and it will be deleted.

I hope this helps,

Doug Mueller 

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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of lisakemes
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:47 AM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

Joe Souza gave me some instructions on how to get rid of the fields that are
in the Fields Not In View and I cannot find the instructions.  Even though
I deleted these fields, they are still in Fields Not in View and are coming
up when creating Active Links, it's really irritating!

Does anyone have the instructions on how to get rid of them completely?  I
think I had to create a new view and all sorts of other things.

Why is it so hard to delete a field off of a form? (this is a display only
form as well).

ARS 7.1 p7
Windows 2003
Oracle 10g

Thanks!

Lisa




lisakemes wrote:
 
 Thanks!
 
 OK, they are in the Fields in View but they are on the Fields Not In
 View side.
 
 How do I get rid of them?
 
 
 Lisa
 
 
 
 
 From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
 Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:14 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them
 
 **
 Just to be safe look at the Fields in View.  Even on a single view form
 you can have fields not in the view
 
 Fred
 
 
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 [mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
 Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:11 PM
 To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
 Subject: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them
 
 **
 I deleted a bunch of fields off of my form and I still see them when I go
 to create an Active Link.
 
 I exported the form (and workflow), deleted the my form (which deletes the
 workflow) and reimported and I still see all the fields that I deleted.
 
 So I just deleted the Active Links and then reimported them, same thing.
 
 I do not have any views on this form and this is a display form.
 
 Lisa Kemes
 AR System Developer
 Tyco Electronics
 717-810-2408 tel
 717-810-2124 fax
 lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

2010-05-04 Thread lisakemes

Hi Doug!

Thanks for responding!  I must be doing something wrong then.  I don't use the 
edit then delete but simply click on my delete button on my keyboard.  I 
get the dialog box that asks me if I really want to delete and I select yes.
But sometimes it doesn't delete it from my form, but simply puts the field in 
Fields not in View.

Maybe I'm hitting no by mistake, saving the form and this moves it to the 
Fields not in View?  I'm not sure, but I'm doing something wrong!

I just did what you suggested and now everything is nice and clean!

Thanks again!


Lisa




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To: Kemes, Lisa
Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

Lisa,

If the fields are in the Fields Not In View list, then they have not been
deleted.  They have simply been moved out of the view.

To delete a field, select the field and choose the Delete option (under the Edit
menu).

If a field is not in the view, you can either
   1) Go to a view that has the field in view
   2) Go to the Fields Not in View list and move it into the view

Then, the field is there, you can select it, and select the Delete option.

There will be a dialog that shows up asking if you really want to delete the
field.  Respond Yes to really delete the field.

Then, save the form.

The field will be deleted -- from the form and so from all views.

The only way that the field is present in the list of fields whether in view
or not in view is that it really exists and has not been deleted.  That would
be why you are seeing it on lists of fields -- it is really there.

Some people think that just by taking a field off the view -- moving it from in
view to not in view -- will delete it.  Only Deleting a field will gaurantee
deleting it.

Now, if the field is a piece of trim, removing from all views may cause the
field to be deleted because it no longer has meaning because all it is is a
display.  BUT, this is a side effect and may or may not happen (I don't remember
whether it does or not).  If you want a field deleted, select it and select the
Delete operation and it will be deleted.

I hope this helps,

Doug Mueller

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Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

Joe Souza gave me some instructions on how to get rid of the fields that are
in the Fields Not In View and I cannot find the instructions.  Even though
I deleted these fields, they are still in Fields Not in View and are coming
up when creating Active Links, it's really irritating!

Does anyone have the instructions on how to get rid of them completely?  I
think I had to create a new view and all sorts of other things.

Why is it so hard to delete a field off of a form? (this is a display only
form as well).

ARS 7.1 p7
Windows 2003
Oracle 10g

Thanks!

Lisa




lisakemes wrote:


 Thanks!

 OK, they are in the Fields in View but they are on the Fields Not In
 View side.

 How do I get rid of them?


 Lisa



 
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 Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

 **
 Just to be safe look at the Fields in View.  Even on a single view form
 you can have fields not in the view

 Fred


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 **
 I deleted a bunch of fields off of my form and I still see them when I go
 to create an Active Link.

 I exported the form (and workflow), deleted the my form (which deletes the
 workflow) and reimported and I still see all the fields that I deleted.

 So I just deleted the Active Links and then reimported them, same thing.

 I do not have any views on this form and this is a display form.

 Lisa Kemes
 AR System Developer
 Tyco Electronics
 717-810-2408 tel
 717-810-2124 fax
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Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

2010-03-05 Thread Kemes, Lisa
I deleted a bunch of fields off of my form and I still see them when I go to 
create an Active Link.

I exported the form (and workflow), deleted the my form (which deletes the 
workflow) and reimported and I still see all the fields that I deleted.

So I just deleted the Active Links and then reimported them, same thing.

I do not have any views on this form and this is a display form.

Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com




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Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

2010-03-05 Thread Grooms, Frederick W
Just to be safe look at the Fields in View.  Even on a single view form you can 
have fields not in the view

Fred


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Subject: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

**
I deleted a bunch of fields off of my form and I still see them when I go to 
create an Active Link.

I exported the form (and workflow), deleted the my form (which deletes the 
workflow) and reimported and I still see all the fields that I deleted.

So I just deleted the Active Links and then reimported them, same thing.

I do not have any views on this form and this is a display form.

Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com





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Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

2010-03-05 Thread Joe D'Souza
Was about to say the same thing.. bet they are there..

If they are not there, then there must be something wrong with your meta
data..

You could try to look up the T table structures and see if they exist in the
structure.. If they do not exist in the structure but yet for some reason
exist in the fields table and the field_dispprop, something may have gone
wrong when you were deleting these fields that didn't delete the meta data
tied to the fields.. you may in that event have to do some manual cleanup..

Joe
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[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
  Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:14 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them


  **
  Just to be safe look at the Fields in View.  Even on a single view form
you can have fields not in the view



  Fred





  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
  Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:11 PM
  To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
  Subject: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them



  **

  I deleted a bunch of fields off of my form and I still see them when I go
to create an Active Link.



  I exported the form (and workflow), deleted the my form (which deletes the
workflow) and reimported and I still see all the fields that I deleted.


  So I just deleted the Active Links and then reimported them, same thing.



  I do not have any views on this form and this is a display form.



  Lisa Kemes

  AR System Developer

  Tyco Electronics

  717-810-2408 tel

  717-810-2124 fax

  lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com

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Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

2010-03-05 Thread Kemes, Lisa
Thanks!

OK, they are in the Fields in View but they are on the Fields Not In View 
side.

How do I get rid of them?


Lisa




From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

**
Just to be safe look at the Fields in View.  Even on a single view form you can 
have fields not in the view

Fred


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

**
I deleted a bunch of fields off of my form and I still see them when I go to 
create an Active Link.

I exported the form (and workflow), deleted the my form (which deletes the 
workflow) and reimported and I still see all the fields that I deleted.

So I just deleted the Active Links and then reimported them, same thing.

I do not have any views on this form and this is a display form.

Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com




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Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

2010-03-05 Thread Kemes, Lisa
OK, I think I know how to delete them.  Put them in view and delete them.

Thanks!


Lisa




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Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:20 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

**
Was about to say the same thing.. bet they are there..

If they are not there, then there must be something wrong with your meta data..

You could try to look up the T table structures and see if they exist in the 
structure.. If they do not exist in the structure but yet for some reason exist 
in the fields table and the field_dispprop, something may have gone wrong when 
you were deleting these fields that didn't delete the meta data tied to the 
fields.. you may in that event have to do some manual cleanup..

Joe
-Original Message-
From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org]on Behalf Of Grooms, Frederick W
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 5:14 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Re: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

**
Just to be safe look at the Fields in View.  Even on a single view form you can 
have fields not in the view

Fred


From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
[mailto:arsl...@arslist.org] On Behalf Of Kemes, Lisa
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 4:11 PM
To: arslist@ARSLIST.ORG
Subject: Still See Fields After I Deleted Them

**
I deleted a bunch of fields off of my form and I still see them when I go to 
create an Active Link.

I exported the form (and workflow), deleted the my form (which deletes the 
workflow) and reimported and I still see all the fields that I deleted.

So I just deleted the Active Links and then reimported them, same thing.

I do not have any views on this form and this is a display form.

Lisa Kemes
AR System Developer
Tyco Electronics
717-810-2408 tel
717-810-2124 fax
lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.commailto:lisa.ke...@tycoelectronics.com
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