[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-21 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 -got to back even further to the mid 70's when the first deal to sell 
the boardwalk was 
 hatched to a guy from Red bank named robert Oberst or something 
close.  I don't have docs, 
 but perhaps werner could help pin down the time frame - 76-78 around 
there.

it was in the early 80s he and his partners wanted to redevelop entire 
bdwlk area, put on public display in the old senior center, his 
original renderings were not that bad, was thrown out  not sure think 
kramer was gone fiorentino mayor, supposedly, allegedly, not saying its 
the truth would'nt kick back hence we got caarabretta






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[AsburyPark] Re: More dumping in/on Asbury Park...

2006-07-21 Thread chooseorlose3636
I think your right. 

You can watch the dealers every day pull up on bikes and sell the 
crack heads their fix for the day. Or if your lucky, they go around 
the corner(5th Ave or 3rd Ave and sell their Meth to someone else.

There should be a cop posted there each day. 

I just don't get why Asbury is the dumping ground for this crap?

Thanks for the post Mario...




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 Does anyone know if it is really true that AP houses  the only 
meth clinic in 
 Monmouth County ?
 
  
 Silent Bob, promoting his latest sophomoric flick, Clerks 2   ( 
_WeeklyDig  : 
  KEVIN SMITH_ 
 
(http://www.weeklydig.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/article.view/issueID/d
914d07a-638d-41dd-8a9f-9eb80697d2b7/articleID/1ca7784c-62a8-4811-
a9a5-76
 9b22dfa18f/nodeID/c73f7601-ba43-4a94-b026-9f85e0c9dbc3)   ) in 
Boston:
  
 We went through the methadone program together, which  was 
fucking awkward. 
 You show up in Asbury Park, in this really low-rent  neighborhood 
where the 
 one meth clinic in Monmouth County resides, and there's a  fucking 
line of 
 junkies and substance abusers out  front. 
  
 [ According to the New York Post, Joel Siegel sat through 40 
minutes of  
 Smith's film before telling his fellow critics, Time to go! First 
movie I've  
 walked out on in 30 fucking years. ]








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[AsburyPark] Re: More dumping in/on Asbury Park...

2006-07-21 Thread oakdorf
 
 
 You can watch the dealers every day pull up on bikes and sell the 
 crack heads their fix for the day. Or if your lucky, they go around 

Amazing how many people can see it happening. It's nice when you're 
driving down main street and your kids notice a deal going down.

Lets go back to the camera idea - but let the police do it. Monitor the 
cameras and make the arrests. 





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[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-21 Thread dfsavgny
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 The Triangle is clearly visible in the second image. What most people 
do not realize is that 
 the parcel was never developed or contemplated for development. it 
has, as far as I can 
 determined,  been public property. Another example of the lack of 
research and planning in 
 this redevelopment project.
 
 Werner

I think the 1984 plan envisioned high density residential on both the 
triangle and marine grill sites.





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[AsburyPark] Free AP Sweepstakes

2006-07-21 Thread Gary9007





Free Wedding Singer Raffle in Asbury Park-

If you have a store inAsbury Park and would like to participate drop 
us an email. All that is involved is placingour Wedding Singer sign 
which states "Win Tickets Inside"in your window and displaying our coupon 
box and coupons inside the store.

Participating merchants to date include:

Chat and Nibble, SouthSide Florists
Gloss Salon, Zach Shore Realtors
America's Cup Coffee, Wish You Were Here
Lather Salon, Motif, The Spa
Brickwall, Market In The Middle
Gerorgie's, Robert Legere Home

Asbury Park "Wedding Singer" 
SweepstakesThe new hit Broadway musical 
The Wedding Singer is coming back to Jersey this summer (sort of). 

In keeping with its Jersey roots, The Wedding Singer is partnering 
with local businesses throughout Asbury Park to run a totally awesome 
sweepstakes. Patrons can sign up for the free raffle at various 
establishments throughout the area starting July 22nd. Based on 
the 1998 Adam Sandler movie, the show takes place in Ridgefield, New 
Jersey. With a brand new score that pays loving homage to the pop songs of 
the 1980's and a design that captures the styles and spirit that marked the 
decade, The Wedding Singer takes us back to 1985, a time when hair was big, 
greed was good, collars were up, and a wedding singer just might be the coolest 
guy in the room.In this original musical, rock-star wannabe Robbie Hart 
is New Jersey's favorite wedding singer. He's the life of the party-until 
his own fiancée leaves him at the altar. Shot through the heart, Robbie 
becomes a newlywed's worst nightmare-a wedding singer bent on destroying other 
people's weddings. Enter Julia, a winsome waitress who wins his affection 
and helps Robbie pick up the pieces of his own heart. Only trouble is 
Julia is about to be married to a Wall Street shark, and unless Robbie can pull 
off the performance of the decade, the girl of his dreams will be gone forever. 
The Grand Prize winner of the sweepstakes will receive 4 tickets to the 
show, a backstage tour, and memorabilia signed by the cast. Two 
2nd Prize winners will also be awarded tickets and memorabilia to the show. 
The sweepstakeswill culminate in a drawing in Asbury Park the last 
weekend in August.The Wedding Singer is currently playing at 
the Al Hirschfeld Theater on 45th Street  8th Avenue in New York 
City.
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[AsburyPark] Esperanza

2006-07-21 Thread dfsavgny
I notice that the amenities listed on the Esperanza web site say that 
the building will include plaza level and outdoor bars. They have 
liquor licenses for that location?  





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[AsburyPark] hey

2006-07-21 Thread David Clement



Hello My nsme is David "DCpoet34" Clement and I have been writin poetry for years. Presently, I attend Monmouth University. I was wondering are there any poetry venues in Asbury Park? If not, what would be a good location in Asbury Park to start one? Thsmx  DC 
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[AsburyPark] Re: validity of the city's claim regarding a riparian grant

2006-07-21 Thread wernerapnj
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 I think the 1984 plan envisioned high density residential on both the 
 triangle and marine grill sites.


Dan, The real Marine Grill site, the one East of Ocean avenue at the 
foot of Deal Lake, was not even part of the original redevelopment plan.

Recall that the eastern boundry of the Redevelopment Area is Ocean 
Avenue. Everything east of Ocean Ave was Public Property and was 
designated a rehabilitation area.

Condos east of O.A. was never part of the vision. Recall also that the 
redevelopment area boundries were incorrectly transcribed early on and 
that is why the triangle came to be refered to as the Marine Grill 
site.

With regard to the Triangle I beleive that it too was not slated for 
development. Reason being that it is also Public Property.. I will 
check my documents.

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Re: [AsburyPark] hey

2006-07-21 Thread Tex Hatfield
hey dave,
 there most regular venue for poetry at this point is
in Long ranch, at the brighton bar. Once a month. The
next show is Wednesday the 26th. I am familiar with
your work via the New jersey Poetry Yahoo! group. You
will fit in nicely there, as there is a wide range of
styles. The Saint occassionally has shows, and the
Deep used to. If you are serious about starting a show
I have a huge amount of local poet contacts and I can
put you in contact with Phil Montgomery, an AP police
officer who is very active in supporting and promoting
spoken word shows. There is also some area open mics
that welcome spoken word/poetry: berkeley carteret on
friday night, brighton bar on mondays, and internet
cafe (red bank) on sundays. In addition, Upstage
Magazine welcomes submissions for their monthly
publication. You can send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gary from upstage also runs a web based radio station
www.upstageradio.com that welcomes spoken word
submissions for airplay (send mp3s to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]) . In the past, there was a
pretty large poetry scene happening in asbury, but it
has trailed off somewhat recently. Thats said, there
is still a huge pool of local talent. The local music 
scene has an annual 'awards' show (Asbury Music
Awards) that also includes a poet laureate category (I
happen to be this years AMA Poet Laureate). Again,
this wednesday at the Brighton Bar is your best bet
for exposure to a new audience and a taste of the wide
range of styles and rich talent this area has to
offer.



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Re: [AsburyPark] hey

2006-07-21 Thread Tex Hatfield
hey dave,
 The most regular venue for poetry at this point is
in Long Branch, at the brighton bar. Once a month. The
next show is Wednesday the 26th. I am familiar with
your work via the New jersey Poetry Yahoo! group. You
will fit in nicely there, as there is a wide range of
styles. The Saint occassionally has shows, and the
Deep used to. If you are serious about starting a
show, I have a huge amount of local poet contacts and
I can put you in contact with Phil Montgomery, an AP
police officer who is very active in supporting and
promoting spoken word shows. There are also some area
open mics that welcome spoken word/poetry: berkeley
carteret on friday night, brighton bar on mondays, and
internet cafe (red bank) on sundays. In addition,
Upstage Magazine welcomes submissions for their
monthly publication. You can send to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gary from upstage also runs
a web based radio station www.upstageradio.com that
welcomes spoken word submissions for airplay (send
mp3s to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) . In the past, there
was a pretty large poetry scene happening in asbury,
but it has trailed off somewhat recently. That said,
there is still a huge pool of local talent. So musch
that it is recognized when the local music scene has
its annual 'awards' show (Asbury Music Awards) it also
includes a poet laureate category (I happen to be this
years AMA Poet Laureate). Again, this wednesday at the
Brighton Bar is your best bet
for exposure to a new audience and a taste of the wide
range of styles and rich talent this area has to
offer.


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   Thsmx
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Re: [AsburyPark] hey

2006-07-21 Thread David Clement



I am very serious. I never started my own venue much less host an eventThis is something I want to try...Tex Hatfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  hey dave,there most regular venue for poetry at this point isin Long ranch, at the brighton bar. Once a month. Thenext show is Wednesday the 26th. I am familiar withyour work via the New jersey Poetry Yahoo! group. Youwill fit in nicely there, as there is a wide range ofstyles. The Saint occassionally has shows, and theDeep used to. If you are serious about starting a
 showI have a huge amount of local poet contacts and I canput you in contact with Phil Montgomery, an AP policeofficer who is very active in supporting and promotingspoken word shows. There is also some area open micsthat welcome spoken word/poetry: berkeley carteret onfriday night, brighton bar on mondays, and internetcafe (red bank) on sundays. In addition, UpstageMagazine welcomes submissions for their monthlypublication. You can send to [EMAIL PROTECTED]e.com.Gary from upstage also runs a web based radio stationwww.upstageradio.com that welcomes spoken wordsubmissions for airplay (send mp3s to[EMAIL PROTECTED]com) . In the past, there was apretty large poetry scene happening in asbury, but ithas trailed off somewhat recently. Thats said, thereis still a huge pool of local talent. The local music
 scene has an annual 'awards' show (Asbury MusicAwards) that also includes a poet laureate category (Ihappen to be this years AMA Poet Laureate). Again,this wednesday at the Brighton Bar is your best betfor exposure to a new audience and a taste of the widerange of styles and rich talent this area has tooffer.-- David Clement [EMAIL PROTECTED]com wrote: Hello  My nsme is David "DCpoet34" Clement and I have been writin poetry for years. Presently, I attend Monmouth University. I was wondering are there any poetry venues in Asbury Park? If not, what would be a good location in Asbury Park to start one?   Thsmx DC   - Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo!
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[AsburyPark] Re: Stand Up For Asbury, Meeting!

2006-07-21 Thread Steve
Hey Paul,

Everyone has a right to an Opinion, but unfortunately what's coming
out of your Group SUFA seems to include Lies and Distortions of the
Real Truth!

Fact is that Surveys have already been taken, and there are enough
Homeless and Poor (For the Daily Meals) in the IMMEDIATE Asbury Park
Area to Justify an even bigger Shelter than the Jersey Shore Rescue
Mission.

You guys are even using the wrong name  The name of their
Morristown Operation ... Which by the way, has been very successful
and mostly accepted by the Community!

The Atlantic City rescue Mission, which is one of the best in NJ, DOES 
 take people from all over because of it's Gigantic Capacity and
phenomenal turn around. Our shelter will actually be Undersized for
the Population of Homeless just in the Greater Asbury Park Area, and
chances are slim to NONE that People will be coming from Newark,
Paterson, etc., as your Propaganda has Said!

Maybe you should have a Meeting to END Homelessness, and discuss how
to get:

1. Rent Control
2. Low Income Affordable Housing
3. Living Wage Jobs

If the Redevelopment wasn't CREATING Homelessness due to the Lack of
Will, Action or Desire to get the Above Three Things into Effect,
there virtually wouldn't BE much Homelessness here!  But it's
happening all over, not JUST in Asbury Park.  Many formerly Middle
Classed WHOLE families are now Homeless Call up the Group run by
14 Churches in Keansburg who House Whole FAMILIES who were previously
Working, then lost their Jobs and became Homeless. They have a 5 Year
List to help People . And many are from right near here ...All in
Monmouth County!

Your Group will just Aggravate the Situation by not Dealing with the
REAL Problems (Lack of Above 3 things  others)! When you're not a
part of the Solution, you ARE a Part of the PROBLEM, which is EXACTLY
what Stand Up For Asbury IS!

Why don't you DEMAND Both Middle Class AND Low Income Housing to be
Included in the Building, as it is even done in some really Nice
Sections of California?

How about helping ME and my Friends to create Jobs for not ONLY the
Poor, but for people such as the Fort Monmouth People about to be out
of work SOON?  That Ft. Monmouth situation is going to bump people
from Solid Middle Class to POOR VERY Quickly!

Since Cities with Rent Control have grown in a HIGHLY more stable way
than ones without it over the past 30 Years (See Policylink.org ..Rent
Control), why not use your intelligence to help engineer a Phenomenal
rent Control Ordinance, and help to get it passed?

By the Way, are you getting Wealthy off the Redevelopment Blowing
everything out of Proportion including Rents  Real Estate Values? I'd
Venture to guess that the answer is YES to that question, either that,
or you're just not too Bright (5 Watts?)  !

Everything being done is making Asbury Park WORSE, not better, but the
greedy ones who probably also run SUFA are either too Blind or too
Corrupt and selfish to see what would be better Long Term for the City!

What's being done now is VERY similar to what HITLER tried to do to
the German Population in the 1930's-40's!  It's Ironic though, because
the Same type of People who Suffered from Hitler's Actions Then, are
RUNNING what's happening in Asbury Park ... And they're JUST as
Ruthless, Heartless and Corrupt .. But just more Sneaky, and they
have smart, immoral and Corrupt as Hell Lawyers to bend the Laws to
the Max while spreading Pain and Sinning against their Neighbors!

Have a Wonderful Afterlife! I hope it doesn't get too Hot for you
Folks!  Karma's a Bitch, especially the Pay Back for the Bad Kind!

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 Stand Up For Asbury! is holding a meeting to discuss legal appeals 
 to the variances issued to The Market Street Mission, a homeless 
 shelter and soup kitchen to open on the corner of Memorial and 
 Sewall in Asbury Park.
 
 WHEN: (This) Saturday, June 24th at 4:00 PM
 WHERE: 511 Second Ave, Asbury Park.
 
 There will be at least one representative from the City Council as 
 well as representatives from several Asbury Park leadership bodies 
 at the meeting. The meeting will be brief.
 
 Anyone who opposes the establishment of the Market Street Mission in 
 Asbury Park is welcome to attend.
 
 Donations to help finance our appeal can be sent to:
 
 Stand up for Asbury!
 P.O. Box 643
 Asbury Park, NJ 07712
 
 Checks should be made payable to Stand Up For Asbury!
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Paul Vail
 511 Second Ave






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[AsburyPark] Re: Family Values!

2006-07-21 Thread Steve
WHO's Hateful?  Masterminding a Massive Gentrification to FORCE as
MANY Afro-Americans OUT of the City as Possible?

You are a Massive HYPOCRIT!

If you wish to USE Jesus Christ's Name in a Conversation, then FIRST
Read Matthew 25:31-46 in the Bible, then EXPLAIN to ME how YOU and
your Racist Friends are DOING what those verses DEMAND that ALL
Christians DO!

I don't Hate ANYONE, but I despise the Racially and Monetarily
Motivated Actions to Clean Up the City that three current Groups of
People in the City are involved in!  And it has nothing to DO with
their Race, Religion or Sexual Preference, but solely to do with their
utter and COMPLETE Lack of Both Morals and Humane VALUES!

I don't respect Hypocrites who attack others while THEY perpetrate
Crimes Against Humanity!

Peace,

Steve






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 RE:  I do not believe Jesus Christ (never read a hateful word out of 
 his mouth in
 the New Testament), Gandhi and Martin Luther King (both of whom have
 relatives speaking out today for gay rights), Thomas Jefferson(the big
 pusher of Separation between Church and State), and American Indians
 (referred to gays as Two-Spirited and often they were the tribe's 
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 Unlike you, I wish you a happy and healthy life and hope you are 
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