[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vinyl siding is arguably one of the most destructive materials ever introduced into our biosphere. JK says vinyl siding will destroy the earth! EVERYBODY PANIC Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
Werner ask Maureen to play you the tape of the panel discussion at Holy Spirit Church on housing, where JK and I were both panelists. Without question he supports the efforts of the Mission to come here. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson nnjallans1@ wrote: Representing the people? This guy has got to GO == I'm concerned about what sounds like a dis-information campaign being waged. I attend the Council Meetings and at no time do I recall Councilman Keady taking a stand against Stand Up for Asbury or for Market Street Mission. What I recall was a statement to not sign onto the brief on the basis that it would waste tax payer dollars to interject the Council into what is a Zoning Board matter. Werner Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Open Space v Urban Development
When I was seeking the Freeholder nod from the GOP last year, one of the planks on my platform was pointing out how open space conservation is getting all the political attention while Urban planning is not. Even Republicans are acting like narrow-minded treehuggers when it comes to preserving open space (Judith Stanley Coleman is one of the more influential GOP'ers in the State). This lady in the Press today from Bay Head agrees with me. My army slowly grows. Building density all state's fault Monmouth County Conservation Foundation President Judith Stanley Coleman complained developers touting mixed-use traditional neighborhood development are guilty of bad planning practices. (High-density development just another term for urban sprawl, Feb. 14.) But the developers didn't invent this concept; the state Development and Redevelopment Plan did. The plan created by the New Jersey Planning Commission and administered by the state Office of Smart Growth touts mixed-use residential and commercial development in urban areas as the only way New Jersey should grow. What Coleman calls idyllic, but nonsensical is nothing more than how the state plan portrays the ideal 21st century development. She points out statewide mass transit doesn't exist here, which must have been known when the state plan was written. Coleman should check out New Jersey Future's smart growth and sustainable development Web site. She has mistakenly blamed the developers for the urban density vision spelled out in the state plan. Since so much of the state is prohibited from development (Highlands and Pinelands, close to 2 million acres), growth can go only where it is allowed. Developers are not the salesmen for high-density development, as Coleman says. It is our own state government that can rightly claim that title. Urban density, meet thine own sworn blood enemy, the conservationist. Penny Griber BAY HEAD Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: WORTH THE WAIT
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jim asburyjim@ wrote: It looks like he found it. ~And your spelling getting better Fred Asbury Park coming together.~ James Grabe *~ROLEOVER NEEDS TO GROWUP GET A LIFE HE IS LOOKING FOR ATTENTION~* ~James Grabe~ --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote: like i said genious, EDDIE MURPHY IS BACK MAN... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gary Wien lightgrw@ wrote: Roley thinks he gets under people's skin with his personal attacks but I think most everyone here just sort of feels sorry for him. When he attacks me or the magazine, I know its not worth my time to respond. He's not our target audience at all. We're looking for people who know how to read. If Roley knew how to read, the oceanfront probably would have been redeveloped by now... On Feb 22, 2007, at 6:51 PM, 2fine4u wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rolemover rolemover@ wrote: Gary, you sound dumber and dumber as the years go by..EDDIE MURPHY IS BACK MAN...what a waste of time you are... Gary, in defense of you, what in the world did this statement, mean? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: search warrants executed at BOE office
There are a few houses they should search.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: Wht what do you know. Please tell us.why stop at the BOE? Save gas and make a couple other stops in town. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
Low blow ridiculous post Tommy. I'm surprised you didn't write the same thing about me about a month ago when I posted what the potential effects of global warming might have on AP in the next 100 years. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@ wrote: Vinyl siding is arguably one of the most destructive materials ever introduced into our biosphere. JK says vinyl siding will destroy the earth! EVERYBODY PANIC Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Werner ask Maureen to play you the tape of the panel discussion at Holy Spirit Church on housing, where JK and I were both panelists. Without question he supports the efforts of the Mission to come here. Exactly the point in my response to Paul. JK is not, and should not be, the issue. He did not bring the Mission here. He has personal reasons for not opposing assistance to the homeless, but again, that is not the issue. I was there that night Tommy, I don't need to hear the tape. Since when did this country become a place where we all have to agree on everything and when someone doesn't, they are turned into a pariah? I have seen this slowly coming to be especially with JK at council meetings over the past several months. Cheap shots. It's like a work assignment. Never loose focus. Stay on the issues. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah. In fact, not one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or his positions. Werner made a judgment about SUFA though. He said it was misinformation to assert JK is for the Mission, and seems to indicate that JK has not come out for or against. Why is it a problem if I point out that at Holy Spirit JK certainly did come out for the Mission? I can understand the need some have to defend JK, but I honestly didn't say anything for or against the guy - I just corrected Werner on JK's stance. Some people are getting a bit sensitive about JK. I like the fella and his wife. Great people. I do have genuine disagreements with their political views, but please don't think if I post about him I'm attacking the guy. He's good people in my book; just not so in my much lesser important book on politics. So what. Still a good guy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Werner ask Maureen to play you the tape of the panel discussion at Holy Spirit Church on housing, where JK and I were both panelists. Without question he supports the efforts of the Mission to come here. Exactly the point in my response to Paul. JK is not, and should not be, the issue. He did not bring the Mission here. He has personal reasons for not opposing assistance to the homeless, but again, that is not the issue. I was there that night Tommy, I don't need to hear the tape. Since when did this country become a place where we all have to agree on everything and when someone doesn't, they are turned into a pariah? I have seen this slowly coming to be especially with JK at council meetings over the past several months. Cheap shots. It's like a work assignment. Never loose focus. Stay on the issues. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] MM - Done Deal?
I am not trying to be a party pooper, but something strikes me as strange. The day of the council meeting, sources indicated that the deal between Partners and MM was still not signed. At the meeting Gary Mottola said it was signed two days earlier. Subsequently I rechecked and sources indicate that it was apparently kept very close to the vest. Then I noticed the story in APP indicated that the deal was subject to investor review. I am uncertain whether that means in MM or Partners. It was obviously something that was said to reporters in the hall and not at the meeting. I posted that excerpt here. Today I again checked the MM website for an announcement of the deal. Still nothing. I would think that there would be something since there was last year well before a deal was even sketched out. Hopefully my suspicions will be misplaced. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
JK says vinyl siding will destroy the earth! EVERYBODY PANIC I can understand the need some have to defend JK, but I honestly didn't say anything for or against the guy So wait, one minute you are ridiculing him for his view about vinyl siding, and the next you are calling him a great guy? What is that? Ridiculous... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah. In fact, not one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or his positions. Werner made a judgment about SUFA though. He said it was misinformation to assert JK is for the Mission, and seems to indicate that JK has not come out for or against. Why is it a problem if I point out that at Holy Spirit JK certainly did come out for the Mission? I can understand the need some have to defend JK, but I honestly didn't say anything for or against the guy - I just corrected Werner on JK's stance. Some people are getting a bit sensitive about JK. I like the fella and his wife. Great people. I do have genuine disagreements with their political views, but please don't think if I post about him I'm attacking the guy. He's good people in my book; just not so in my much lesser important book on politics. So what. Still a good guy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Werner ask Maureen to play you the tape of the panel discussion at Holy Spirit Church on housing, where JK and I were both panelists. Without question he supports the efforts of the Mission to come here. Exactly the point in my response to Paul. JK is not, and should not be, the issue. He did not bring the Mission here. He has personal reasons for not opposing assistance to the homeless, but again, that is not the issue. I was there that night Tommy, I don't need to hear the tape. Since when did this country become a place where we all have to agree on everything and when someone doesn't, they are turned into a pariah? I have seen this slowly coming to be especially with JK at council meetings over the past several months. Cheap shots. It's like a work assignment. Never loose focus. Stay on the issues. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
Jack my post is rediculous? Saying vinyl is one of the most destructive materials introduced into our biosphere isn't rediculous? Mine was obviously a joke. He's serious. With all the harmful crap that has been injected into our environment, to list vinyl as one of the most destructive is a wild exaggeration. Radiation, lead, mercury - I might say yes. Vinyl? Oh let me run home and throw out my old records before they kill me As to your questin, Global Warming will be great for Asbury - we can sell beach passes year 'round. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Low blow ridiculous post Tommy. I'm surprised you didn't write the same thing about me about a month ago when I posted what the potential effects of global warming might have on AP in the next 100 years. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@ wrote: Vinyl siding is arguably one of the most destructive materials ever introduced into our biosphere. JK says vinyl siding will destroy the earth! EVERYBODY PANIC Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah. In fact, not one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or his positions. Tom, look at my post. I never said you did anything. In fact, while I responded to your post I clearly said it was Paul's post, on behalf of SUFA, that I considered to be the germinating factor. Your post, which you have accurately explained, does not make him a pariah. But, is another in a series, started by Paul, followed by Allan, and of course by mine (which in essence probably exacerbated what I was complaining about), then Werner's and yours. All of which cumulatively took us off the issues. It is not JK that brought the Mission here, nor is it any of his support of/reluctance to oppose, or attendance at any zoning board or other meetings that will affect the Mission's existence here. All of that is quite frankly irrelevant, and Paul, on behalf of SUFA, should realize that. SUFA should not demonize ANYONE. SUFA is not about ANYONE. It is about the appropriateness of the Mission in AP. That's it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
You are mixing posts there Jack. The other was in resonse to Dan the Man. But since you brought it up, yes I can disagree with JK about vinyl, and even use sarcasm to defend his hyperbole, and still think he is a good fella. You have to carve out political views from the person. Political views are a tiny part of us - the rest of the stuff is more important. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JK says vinyl siding will destroy the earth! EVERYBODY PANIC I can understand the need some have to defend JK, but I honestly didn't say anything for or against the guy So wait, one minute you are ridiculing him for his view about vinyl siding, and the next you are calling him a great guy? What is that? Ridiculous... --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah. In fact, not one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or his positions. Werner made a judgment about SUFA though. He said it was misinformation to assert JK is for the Mission, and seems to indicate that JK has not come out for or against. Why is it a problem if I point out that at Holy Spirit JK certainly did come out for the Mission? I can understand the need some have to defend JK, but I honestly didn't say anything for or against the guy - I just corrected Werner on JK's stance. Some people are getting a bit sensitive about JK. I like the fella and his wife. Great people. I do have genuine disagreements with their political views, but please don't think if I post about him I'm attacking the guy. He's good people in my book; just not so in my much lesser important book on politics. So what. Still a good guy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Werner ask Maureen to play you the tape of the panel discussion at Holy Spirit Church on housing, where JK and I were both panelists. Without question he supports the efforts of the Mission to come here. Exactly the point in my response to Paul. JK is not, and should not be, the issue. He did not bring the Mission here. He has personal reasons for not opposing assistance to the homeless, but again, that is not the issue. I was there that night Tommy, I don't need to hear the tape. Since when did this country become a place where we all have to agree on everything and when someone doesn't, they are turned into a pariah? I have seen this slowly coming to be especially with JK at council meetings over the past several months. Cheap shots. It's like a work assignment. Never loose focus. Stay on the issues. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
You're right. I see that you were responding to Paul. While we are on that subject then, I don't think JK's view on the matter is irrelevant. I'm irrelevant. He's a sitting council person. There's a difference from when I talk and when he talks. His carries different weight. We've been down this road before. He isn't just an advocate anymore. He is a community leader. His words even when not on the dais have an effect. If he is going to ne neutral on the Mission he can't then continue to speak up for it and defend it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah. In fact, not one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or his positions. Tom, look at my post. I never said you did anything. In fact, while I responded to your post I clearly said it was Paul's post, on behalf of SUFA, that I considered to be the germinating factor. Your post, which you have accurately explained, does not make him a pariah. But, is another in a series, started by Paul, followed by Allan, and of course by mine (which in essence probably exacerbated what I was complaining about), then Werner's and yours. All of which cumulatively took us off the issues. It is not JK that brought the Mission here, nor is it any of his support of/reluctance to oppose, or attendance at any zoning board or other meetings that will affect the Mission's existence here. All of that is quite frankly irrelevant, and Paul, on behalf of SUFA, should realize that. SUFA should not demonize ANYONE. SUFA is not about ANYONE. It is about the appropriateness of the Mission in AP. That's it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
Tom, in this case I think he has every right to support it without becoming the issue. Are you saying that just because he's on the council he doesn't get to have an opinion on this - or that it can't be different from your own? I am totally against the mission. I strongly disagree with Jim on this one. But being on the council does not eliminate his right to have an opinion, just as the others are not supportive of the mission and have their own right to express their opinion. I don't agree with Jim but respect him for not being afraid to take a visible stand for what he believes in the face of so much opposition. This isn't going to earn him votes, and he knows it. Yet he is willing to stand on conviction. Whether you agree or not, give some credit for standing on principles. I know someone else on this board who often takes an unpopular stand (ie., you). I also disagree with you much of the time but do appreciate the same quality in you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right. I see that you were responding to Paul. While we are on that subject then, I don't think JK's view on the matter is irrelevant. I'm irrelevant. He's a sitting council person. There's a difference from when I talk and when he talks. His carries different weight. We've been down this road before. He isn't just an advocate anymore. He is a community leader. His words even when not on the dais have an effect. If he is going to ne neutral on the Mission he can't then continue to speak up for it and defend it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah. In fact, not one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or his positions. Tom, look at my post. I never said you did anything. In fact, while I responded to your post I clearly said it was Paul's post, on behalf of SUFA, that I considered to be the germinating factor. Your post, which you have accurately explained, does not make him a pariah. But, is another in a series, started by Paul, followed by Allan, and of course by mine (which in essence probably exacerbated what I was complaining about), then Werner's and yours. All of which cumulatively took us off the issues. It is not JK that brought the Mission here, nor is it any of his support of/reluctance to oppose, or attendance at any zoning board or other meetings that will affect the Mission's existence here. All of that is quite frankly irrelevant, and Paul, on behalf of SUFA, should realize that. SUFA should not demonize ANYONE. SUFA is not about ANYONE. It is about the appropriateness of the Mission in AP. That's it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
How can you, or I, or pretty much everyone here, who hasn't studied it at length say that raising concerns about something like vinyl is ridiculous? Are you an expert about this topic? Do you know anything more then I do? I doubt it. You know what makes me sick about our culture? Everybody thinks they are an expert about everything because they read the headlines. They get 15 seconds of info, and then think they are informed enough to have an opinion. So you think JK is wrong for trying to raise concern about something, and somehow you think you know enough about vinyl to call him ridiculous. Sad indeed. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack my post is rediculous? Saying vinyl is one of the most destructive materials introduced into our biosphere isn't rediculous? Mine was obviously a joke. He's serious. With all the harmful crap that has been injected into our environment, to list vinyl as one of the most destructive is a wild exaggeration. Radiation, lead, mercury - I might say yes. Vinyl? Oh let me run home and throw out my old records before they kill me As to your questin, Global Warming will be great for Asbury - we can sell beach passes year 'round. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Low blow ridiculous post Tommy. I'm surprised you didn't write the same thing about me about a month ago when I posted what the potential effects of global warming might have on AP in the next 100 years. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, James Keady james.keady@ wrote: Vinyl siding is arguably one of the most destructive materials ever introduced into our biosphere. JK says vinyl siding will destroy the earth! EVERYBODY PANIC Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Last Night's Zoning Board Hearing
Et tu, Asbury Couple? Et tu? Why do people keep laying things on me today that aren't mine? I said nothing, good or bad about JK and his position on the Mission, and I did not say he himself is an issue. WERNER posted saying that it is misinformation to assert JK has a position on the mission. I did nothing more than refer to WERNER to the Holy Spirit tape, where Jim did have a position. That's it. Period. All I said. From that I'm being associated with calling him pariah and making him an issue. Was not Werner making him an issue for daring to speak his name? Like I said. Some folks are a bit too sensitive when it comes to him. I'm certain I did not attack him or make him an issue by simply pointing WERNER to a tape. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom, in this case I think he has every right to support it without becoming the issue. Are you saying that just because he's on the council he doesn't get to have an opinion on this - or that it can't be different from your own? I am totally against the mission. I strongly disagree with Jim on this one. But being on the council does not eliminate his right to have an opinion, just as the others are not supportive of the mission and have their own right to express their opinion. I don't agree with Jim but respect him for not being afraid to take a visible stand for what he believes in the face of so much opposition. This isn't going to earn him votes, and he knows it. Yet he is willing to stand on conviction. Whether you agree or not, give some credit for standing on principles. I know someone else on this board who often takes an unpopular stand (ie., you). I also disagree with you much of the time but do appreciate the same quality in you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: You're right. I see that you were responding to Paul. While we are on that subject then, I don't think JK's view on the matter is irrelevant. I'm irrelevant. He's a sitting council person. There's a difference from when I talk and when he talks. His carries different weight. We've been down this road before. He isn't just an advocate anymore. He is a community leader. His words even when not on the dais have an effect. If he is going to ne neutral on the Mission he can't then continue to speak up for it and defend it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: Nothing in my post here calls for JK to be a pariah. In fact, not one word of it makes a value judgment at all about him or his positions. Tom, look at my post. I never said you did anything. In fact, while I responded to your post I clearly said it was Paul's post, on behalf of SUFA, that I considered to be the germinating factor. Your post, which you have accurately explained, does not make him a pariah. But, is another in a series, started by Paul, followed by Allan, and of course by mine (which in essence probably exacerbated what I was complaining about), then Werner's and yours. All of which cumulatively took us off the issues. It is not JK that brought the Mission here, nor is it any of his support of/reluctance to oppose, or attendance at any zoning board or other meetings that will affect the Mission's existence here. All of that is quite frankly irrelevant, and Paul, on behalf of SUFA, should realize that. SUFA should not demonize ANYONE. SUFA is not about ANYONE. It is about the appropriateness of the Mission in AP. That's it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you an expert about this topic? Do you know anything more then I do? I doubt it. Jack has a new rule everyone. Only experts on a topic may have an opinion on this board. You must show your expert credentials to have an opinion. Jack will strictly enforce this rule. In other news, JK is now an expert on matters of earth sciences, biology and geology. If he asserts an opinion in these matters, it's OK. Anyone else who has an opinion must not express it, for failing to have expert credentials. Good grief. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/lOt0.A/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Tommy the Democrat?
I'm glad to see that Toomy has finally seen the light on which party he really wants to belong to. It was great to see you Friday night in full support of the Dems at the Wonder Bar. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy the Democrat?
Everyone knows I listen to both sides. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm glad to see that Toomy has finally seen the light on which party he really wants to belong to. It was great to see you Friday night in full support of the Dems at the Wonder Bar. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
You absolutely missed my point. I'm not saying you need to be an expert, i'm saying educate yourself more before taking jabs at people who are trying to inform people about something that may be a risk to the environment and peoples health. I will always stand by my opinion that too many people talk about things like they actually know the whole story, the big picture. Care to disagree with that? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Are you an expert about this topic? Do you know anything more then I do? I doubt it. Jack has a new rule everyone. Only experts on a topic may have an opinion on this board. You must show your expert credentials to have an opinion. Jack will strictly enforce this rule. In other news, JK is now an expert on matters of earth sciences, biology and geology. If he asserts an opinion in these matters, it's OK. Anyone else who has an opinion must not express it, for failing to have expert credentials. Good grief. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hOt0.A/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Tommy the Democrat?
Remember that during election time.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everyone knows I listen to both sides. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: I'm glad to see that Toomy has finally seen the light on which party he really wants to belong to. It was great to see you Friday night in full support of the Dems at the Wonder Bar. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
See, there you go again Tommy, you've found yet another subtle way to somehow put JK down. If you read JKs original post, and followed the links in his post, you'd realize that he has spent some time studying the issue of vinyl, so that does give him an informed opinion. I truely believe that people need to be more informed when discussing the more difficult and complicated issues in our world. Take global warming for example. I have been reading about it, and studying it for approx. 15 years. Do I know what i'm talking about? Probably not, because I'll admit that I don't really understand all the science, but at least I've been paying attention and reading as much as I can about the topic. Along the way, i've encountered many people on both sides of the issue, and what will always amaze me is how people will garner what they can from the headlines, from the crawls at the bottom of the screen on news programs, from the 1 to 2 paragraph discussion of the issue on the internet, and next thing you know, they think they have a qualified opinion. Next, they start using the rhetoric of the topic, and you'll have people who have no idea at all what they are talking about using terms like funded by tree huggers and it's nature, not mankind and on and on...but the cumulative amount of their knowlege on the subject could fill a greeting card. Am I wrong about that? Do we not live in a culture filled with armchair experts about everything? I think we do. I think TV and the Internet has shortened peoples attention spans, and caused many many people to just skim the surface of life, rather then really figure out what's going on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Are you an expert about this topic? Do you know anything more then I do? I doubt it. Jack has a new rule everyone. Only experts on a topic may have an opinion on this board. You must show your expert credentials to have an opinion. Jack will strictly enforce this rule. In other news, JK is now an expert on matters of earth sciences, biology and geology. If he asserts an opinion in these matters, it's OK. Anyone else who has an opinion must not express it, for failing to have expert credentials. Good grief. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] MM - Done Deal?
Today I again checked the MM website for an announcement of the deal. Still nothing. I would think that there would be something since there was last year well before a deal was even sketched out. Hopefully my suspicions will be misplaced. i dont remeber the exact words of one of the MM team members, but he said something about technical reviews. etc. i dont think theres anything to worry about. clearly, if the company wasnt interested, they wouldnt have talked, and introduced themselves the way they did. they must be pretty confident that everythings a done deal (if if its not 100 percent signed and done!) - TV dinner still cooling? Check out Tonight's Picks on Yahoo! TV.
[AsburyPark] Nelson and Jeanette!
Hi Group Members, If there are any fans of really old (and I mean REALLY old) movies---at 4 PM Sunday at the Stephen Crane House, 508 Fourth Ave.) we're screening the 1938 MGM Technicolor film Sweethearts with Jeanette MacDonald and Nelson Eddy. It's not available yet on DVD, but I have a passable VHS copy. It's fun because it was co-scripted by Dorothy Parker, who turned a nicely corny Victor Herbert operetta from 1911 into a semi-screwball 1938 vintage comedy. One of only two of the great duets' films to be photographed in Technicolor (for which it won an Oscar--yes, tomorrow is Oscar night), it costars two folks who would team up the following year in a film near and dear to all our hearts: Frank Morgan (the Wizard himself) and Ray Bolger (who wanted so much to have a brain). Hopefully the weather will hold out, and after coffee, tea, etc., we'll be home in time for Ellen! Sunday also just happens to be the Great Caruso's 134th birthday, so we'll have some birthday cake, too. Alas, poor Enrico entered the heavenly choir seven years before there were any Academy Awards (although, believe it or not, he made a couple of silent--what was the point of that? short subjects)! Anyone interested is more than welcome. Frank D'Alessandro 6th Ave. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/kOt0.A/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
Jack, If I may inquire, what would lead you to the conclusion that I have not studied the issue? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See, there you go again Tommy, you've found yet another subtle way to somehow put JK down. If you read JKs original post, and followed the links in his post, you'd realize that he has spent some time studying the issue of vinyl, so that does give him an informed opinion. I truely believe that people need to be more informed when discussing the more difficult and complicated issues in our world. Take global warming for example. I have been reading about it, and studying it for approx. 15 years. Do I know what i'm talking about? Probably not, because I'll admit that I don't really understand all the science, but at least I've been paying attention and reading as much as I can about the topic. Along the way, i've encountered many people on both sides of the issue, and what will always amaze me is how people will garner what they can from the headlines, from the crawls at the bottom of the screen on news programs, from the 1 to 2 paragraph discussion of the issue on the internet, and next thing you know, they think they have a qualified opinion. Next, they start using the rhetoric of the topic, and you'll have people who have no idea at all what they are talking about using terms like funded by tree huggers and it's nature, not mankind and on and on...but the cumulative amount of their knowlege on the subject could fill a greeting card. Am I wrong about that? Do we not live in a culture filled with armchair experts about everything? I think we do. I think TV and the Internet has shortened peoples attention spans, and caused many many people to just skim the surface of life, rather then really figure out what's going on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Are you an expert about this topic? Do you know anything more then I do? I doubt it. Jack has a new rule everyone. Only experts on a topic may have an opinion on this board. You must show your expert credentials to have an opinion. Jack will strictly enforce this rule. In other news, JK is now an expert on matters of earth sciences, biology and geology. If he asserts an opinion in these matters, it's OK. Anyone else who has an opinion must not express it, for failing to have expert credentials. Good grief. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Vinyl Siding in AP
Because of the sad way that you chose to ridicule JK after he merely tried to give us something to think about. You made a joke of his attempt to make people think about something, and consider the alternatives. If you studied the issue he made reference to, you probably wouldn't made a joke of it. But you did, because you like to attack his politics and position in AP whenever you get a chance. JK wasn't being political. He was presenting food for thought about a simple thing that most of us never think about. If i'm wrong, I apologize. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jack, If I may inquire, what would lead you to the conclusion that I have not studied the issue? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: See, there you go again Tommy, you've found yet another subtle way to somehow put JK down. If you read JKs original post, and followed the links in his post, you'd realize that he has spent some time studying the issue of vinyl, so that does give him an informed opinion. I truely believe that people need to be more informed when discussing the more difficult and complicated issues in our world. Take global warming for example. I have been reading about it, and studying it for approx. 15 years. Do I know what i'm talking about? Probably not, because I'll admit that I don't really understand all the science, but at least I've been paying attention and reading as much as I can about the topic. Along the way, i've encountered many people on both sides of the issue, and what will always amaze me is how people will garner what they can from the headlines, from the crawls at the bottom of the screen on news programs, from the 1 to 2 paragraph discussion of the issue on the internet, and next thing you know, they think they have a qualified opinion. Next, they start using the rhetoric of the topic, and you'll have people who have no idea at all what they are talking about using terms like funded by tree huggers and it's nature, not mankind and on and on...but the cumulative amount of their knowlege on the subject could fill a greeting card. Am I wrong about that? Do we not live in a culture filled with armchair experts about everything? I think we do. I think TV and the Internet has shortened peoples attention spans, and caused many many people to just skim the surface of life, rather then really figure out what's going on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Are you an expert about this topic? Do you know anything more then I do? I doubt it. Jack has a new rule everyone. Only experts on a topic may have an opinion on this board. You must show your expert credentials to have an opinion. Jack will strictly enforce this rule. In other news, JK is now an expert on matters of earth sciences, biology and geology. If he asserts an opinion in these matters, it's OK. Anyone else who has an opinion must not express it, for failing to have expert credentials. Good grief. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Marble History
Found this on a 1955 newsreel description: MARBLE CHAMPS knuckle down in the finals for the national crown at Asbury Park, N.J. 10-year old Dick Hickman, brother of last year's champ, is edged out by 12-year old Raymond Jones of Pittsburgh in a tense climax. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0It09A/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] red fusion now roadhouse bar
the site of red fusion on cookman ave is changing again. same owners, but now its to be called roadhouse bar. coming soon. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/4It09A/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/Y2tolB/TM ~- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
