[AsburyPark] Re: Sunset Avenue Pavilion
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No one posted anything on my sidewalk and light post yet, but you appear to be over there now, and you probably saw it. what do you think of it? not saying all of this is 100% factual, but i believe it 1. sidewalks put in cheap and fast not up to codes and specs partners told to remove and do it right, nothing to do with m.m. 2. lamposts there might be 3 different sizes and style there are at least 2 that i have noitce one wider than the other and then the one that holds 2 lamps, 3. as far as c. bros. heard months ago they tried to buy pavilion made a generous offer, had plans to build bridge, build beach club, even gave partners retail rights to first floor, not enough offer rejected 1 and 2 are factual 3 comes from a good source i believe it, thank your - We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: double post
Why post this i felt like explaining. why'd you post what you said? - Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: message posts
.and this??? felt like posting that too. whats your point? sorry its not asbury park releated. i think you should be able to deleate it and not worry about it. its not one of those posts that has 50 posts atached to it. :-) - Get your own web address. Have a HUGE year through Yahoo! Small Business.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Sunset Avenue Pavilion
Are you imitating Chucky? wow! you people truely are very imature! no wonder this group goes off the wall so much. - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Sunset Avenue Pavilion
not saying all of this is 100% factual, but i believe it 1. sidewalks put in cheap and fast not up to codes and specs partners told to remove and do it right, nothing to do with m.m. 2. lamposts there might be 3 different sizes and style there are at least 2 that i have noitce one wider than the other and then the one that holds 2 lamps, 3. as far as c. bros. heard months ago they tried to buy pavilion made a generous offer, had plans to build bridge, build beach club, even gave partners retail rights to first floor, not enough offer rejected 1 and 2 are factual 3 comes from a good source i believe it, thank your yeah, im not sure what's going on with the lights. At first i thoguht it was every 2 that had a thick pole down ocean ave. But that prooed to be a wrong theory. The double headed lights are at the end of each avenues. - Don't be flakey. Get Yahoo! Mail for Mobile and always stay connected to friends.
[AsburyPark] Re: Recent Chetrit Activity (BCH)
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mr. Chetrit has purchased the Standard Oil Building at 26 Broadway for $225 million. It was Mr. Chetrit that just sold the Toy Building at 200 Fifth Avenue for $500 million to LL Holding Company (a price so high that it made more than a few real-estate insiders gasp) and is in contract to sell 450 West 33rd Street to Broadway Partners for $664 million. ... === I see vacant lots. They're all around me, they don't know they're vacate... Let's encourage him to buy ConHall and do it right. How about the entire beacfront..., Hell, lets sell him all of Asbury Park. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The partners are sitting on gold, and they now it. The that gets built up around them, the shiner that pot gets. What they pay in taxes is drop in the bucket to the final payoff. ... == Exactly why I recommended that the City retain ownership of the beachfront and lease it out. The most valuable property is that closest to the ocean. It will increase in value as adjoining development takes place. The City (taxpayers) would have enjoyed the benefits of the most valable real estate in Asbury Park instead of a private party. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Question for Werner: What's the story behind the Studebaker building?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, and i'm not talking about the antiques store on main. I'm talking about the one near The Saint. = As the emblem indicates it was the Studebaker dealership building. Haven't done any research on it, it is interesting. In particular, notice the metal architectural/art panel at the west side roof line. The stucco covering is peeling away revealing the images of industry and progress of the time. You can make out a train locomotive. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Sunset Avenue Pavilion
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you imitating Chucky? wow! you people truely are very imature! no wonder this group goes off the wall so much. No offense meant, but Oak ask me to comment and it was different from his typical style. I didn;t graps his meaning. It appeared as you wrote it. No offense. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The lights have turned into a huge problem. They are not standard fixtures supported by JCPL. Maintainance, repair and replacement will fall on the City (taxpayers). Need for spare parts was not accounted for and they may not be available in the future. Well if you recall that was brought out at a council meeting last month. The city said that Partners would be responsible for maintaining the lights within the waterfront redevelopment zone. Which prompted my response that there might be a run on flashlights at Asbury Hardware. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
So basically, we have a bunch of non-working, non-standard useless lights that all need to be replaced? Amazing. --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: The lights have turned into a huge problem. They are not standard fixtures supported by JCPL. Maintainance, repair and replacement will fall on the City (taxpayers). Need for spare parts was not accounted for and they may not be available in the future. Well if you recall that was brought out at a council meeting last month. The city said that Partners would be responsible for maintaining the lights within the waterfront redevelopment zone. Which prompted my response that there might be a run on flashlights at Asbury Hardware. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So basically, we have a bunch of non-working, non-standard useless lights that all need to be replaced? Amazing. I would not say that. There is nothing wrong with having a different style of lights, however, when the bulbs become non-standard and the master developer has to maintain them, and the master developer is someone like Partners, well then - that's a horse of a different color. This is characteristic of the entire WRP from the beginning. Despite big name planners, etc., it was not well thought out. I suspect that there will be many changes to come. Some right in line with the criticisms levelled in this forum. A living document is one thing. A poorly though out plan that requires constant revision is another. This was, and continues to be, way over their heads. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
So basically, we have a bunch of non-working, non-standard useless One of my favorite pit stops in Florida is the Thomas edison Labs in Ft. Meyers. One of the highlights are the bulbs that are still burning from way back when... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Sunset Avenue Pavilion
NEver post when you just got your hiarcut and the salon is more like a saloon. Good cheap bottle of wine and pocket pc with a tiny keyboard. To translate what I meant was: 1. The Cherts dump $16m in to the berk just to buy it. 2. Possibilities of the fate of the berk: a)a good dose of white paint, new awnings and some cool lighting b) it gets knocked down and ground up to make make way for a new hotel/condo complexgiven the fact that you can cover 100% of the lot in the zone - there's wasted ground AND air space. They can do this and pocket another $80million. c)They can be nice, fix a couple broken windows and operate it as a hotel. d)They can do a real nice makeover and operate it as a first class hotel. Does it pay to pump $50 million into it - doubt it. But it's not my money. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Sunset Avenue Pavilion
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: NEver post when you just got your hiarcut and the salon is more like a saloon. Good cheap bottle of wine and pocket pc with a tiny keyboard. I thought something like that was the problem. Love/hate those blackberries. To translate what I meant was: 1. The Cherts dump $16m in to the berk just to buy it. 2. Possibilities of the fate of the berk: a)a good dose of white paint, new awnings and some cool lighting b) it gets knocked down and ground up to make make way for a new hotel/condo complexgiven the fact that you can cover 100% of the lot in the zone - there's wasted ground AND air space. They can do this and pocket another $80million. I am unsure about this (Werner?). Wasn't the BC sort of left out, like the Salvation Army? It is a pretty substantial building which would save a great deal of money considering labor and concrete costs today. It's configuration is not bad as well for residential conversion except for the lack of terraces. IF you could build much bigger then yes it might make sense to do that, but I have to think that the building as is could save $200/sf in construction costs. Certainly $100/sf. Here in NYC, shells that are stripped are bought for $400/sf. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Sunset Avenue Pavilion
No offense meant, but Oak ask me to comment and it was different from his typical style. I didn;t graps his meaning. It appeared as you wrote it. No offense. Hmmm. Oh ok. I guess i wont take offence to that then... Well, if your thinking painting something white and throing a few lights on is it my thinking, you are entirly wrong. No offence to peddler, but if correcting an email and giving reason to why there are two is wrong, then this board indeed is heading to a bad place. - Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games.
Re: [AsburyPark] Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
Nicely said there werner! By the way, i didn't think MM for a fact had anything to do with the curbscape, i just through the question out there! You didnt mention the light pole size. Did you notice the change in thickness? What do you think inspired the change? Or is it just a 2nd part to the way the design is installed? charlie - It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar.
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nicely said there werner! By the way, i didn't think MM for a fact had anything to do with the curbscape, i just through the question out there! You didnt mention the light pole size. Did you notice the change in thickness? What do you think inspired the change? Or is it just a 2nd part to the way the design is installed? == Thanks, The fatter poles have an outlet box mounted on them for 'decorative lights'. The thin poles would not accomodate the outlet box. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well if you recall that was brought out at a council meeting last month. The city said that Partners would be responsible for maintaining the lights within the waterfront redevelopment zone. Which prompted my response that there might be a run on flashlights at Asbury Hardware. There is nothing in the agreement that makes Asbury Partners responsible for the streetscape fixtures once they are installed and accepted by the City. They are in the public ROW, become the property of the City and the maintainance responsibility falls to the Taxpayers. I recall at that Council meeting - the issue of the Partners being responsible was only raised as a question. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is nothing in the agreement that makes Asbury Partners responsible for the streetscape fixtures once they are installed and accepted by the City. They are in the public ROW, become the property of the City and the maintainance responsibility falls to the Taxpayers. I recall at that Council meeting - the issue of the Partners being responsible was only raised as a question. It was stated that that was the fact, whether correct or otherwise. In regard to those outlet boxes - great, I can run my laptop on their dime. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Recent Chetrit Activity (BCH)
Ha. If he has that much money, and is willing to invest in Asbury Park. Then yes, i recomend he buy something else, perhaps take over Asbury partners! Instead of him investing all his money into one project (BC), id rather see him spread it around thin. charlie - Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail QA for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users.
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was stated that that was the fact, whether correct or otherwise. In regard to those outlet boxes - great, I can run my laptop on their dime. It was asked if they are responsible for the lights. It was stated that they are responsible for the lights. The detail left out is that they are only responsible for installing them nothing more. You will need a ladder to reach the outlet, not a bad idea, bring an extension cord ! Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
Thanks, The fatter poles have an outlet box mounted on them for 'decorative lights'. The thin poles would not accomodate the outlet box. Werner Your welcome. Hmmm. I'd like to agree with you there, but i don't know if that's the reason! I recall seeing the outlet boxes on about every 3rd or so lamp post too, but i noticed these months ago. They were also on the thin poles. More and more thicker poles seem to be emerging daily. charlie - Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains.
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was asked if they are responsible for the lights. It was stated that they are responsible for the lights. The detail left out is that they are only responsible for installing them nothing more. Yes, but it came up in the context when Pam gave the entire list of burnt out bulbs in the city and the Council said JCPL is responsible for repalcing the bulbs. Then the proviso was made that Partners would be responsible for the ones in the waterfront because they put in non- standard fixtures. You will need a ladder to reach the outlet, not a bad idea, bring an extension cord ! People even tap into the bottom box of lightpoles without outlet boxes to run their electricity. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Curbs, Windows, MM, Paramount, Lights ?
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They were also on the thin poles. More and more thicker poles seem to be emerging daily. They are gaining gravitas Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Recent Chetrit Activity (BCH)
I actually laugehd a few days ago, probably a few weeks by now. As i posted in an earlier post, i noticed the new windows with stickers on them. I laughed to myself thinking, why would they replace them with that? It doesn't seem like the kind of window youd go out and by if you had a choice. This reminds me of a constructino project on Ocean ave, right before the bridge, and just behond the Windmill. An older house on the eastern side of ocean ave had been empty for years. It was sold, new windows were installed (the cheapest kind going). About 2 months later, the house was demolished. Now an empty lot sits, with plans for a new house spread over someones desk most likely. Not that that is a bad thing of course. It's just funny sometimes how you can watch, take notice, and figure out whats going on without even knowing the parties invovled. Does anyone really think something like this could happen to the BC? Are the Chetrit brothers known for doing any work on older buildings? Are they known for tearing things down? I don't really think this would happen, or even allowed. Since it's in private ownership though, if this were to happen, then theres no way to stop it, right? The building isn't protected by anything (not that that really matters anyway, as we have learned from the past..,). - The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing.
[AsburyPark] Re: AP BOE - Public Service Announcement
Honey, whoever you are, I can't access your information. Maybe you should get some people that have technological knowledge to post for you. Maybe repost with a proper attachment. Thank you! Jon --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], wait_foru [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, We are a dedicated team of parents and/or grandparents, seeking seats of the Asbury Park Board Education. Our schools are in chaos! Our students need board members that believe in all of them. We do not want our high school closed. We want to revitalize our high school and middle school academically. Right now the board majority is made up of individuals who have no children. We are not knocking them for exercising their democratic right, however they are not making decisions in the best interest of the children in Asbury Park. They are making decisions to support the wishes of the community they represent. One such wish is to close our high school. It's time for a change and that change is now. Attached please find our information. God Bless and Thanks for the support. - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Berkeley
One thing about the Berkeley -- do not underestimate what the value to Asbury Park would be to have a world-class hotel. The Empress has done very good business, but a fixed up Berkeley (or a completely new Berkeley) would be one of the anchors to bringing people to town for extended stays. I remember a few years ago when fans of Bruce Springsteen started coming to Asbury from far away. While many of them now stay at the Berkeley or Empress, the majority of them used to stay in the Eatontown hotels. If the Berkeley was fixed up, people like that would gladly stay in Asbury instead of driving back and forth each day. For some reason, most of the towns along the Jersey Shore in Monmouth County do not have hotels. I still believe that hotels are what ultimately bring people for mini-vacations. And it's those mini- vacations that Shore towns like Asbury Park could benefit most from. Imagine someone and their family sampling not just one restaurant but three or four days worth of dining along Cookman. That kind of revenue starts to add up. The lack of hotel was why I was very worried with the redevelopment plan. Sure there was a hotel scheduled in the original plan, but that plan could just as easily been labeled fantasy land as most people didn't expect to see much from that plan come to life. If they were serious about bringing tourists to Asbury, the hotel could have been one of the first things built. I know some would say why build it now when there's so much construction going on. My answer - the beach. Tourists would still come to Asbury and book rooms even if all they had to do was visit the beach and dine/shop on Cookman. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Berkeley
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Gary Wien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... The lack of hotel was why I was very worried with the redevelopment plan. Sure there was a hotel scheduled in the original plan, but that plan could just as easily been labeled fantasy land as most people didn't expect to see much from that plan come to life. If they were serious about bringing tourists to Asbury, the hotel could have been one of the first things built. == The C-8 site should have been the New Modern Hotel , centrally located on the beachfront. I advocated for that without results. That along with the Historic BCH and Retro Empress Hotel we would have had the makings of a diversified destination oceanfront. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: From APP
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...and while you may not like PF changs, cheesecake etc - they all are a draw, cause that's what people what to piss away their money on. Golden Corral, Cheesecake etc - all have pretty good expansion plans in NJ. Trust me. And, if you read the article, a fact - there is NO commercial land around where they want to be. That's why you have the developers building the outlet center on 66 - doing all the infrastructure before they even have final approvals. Why? cause they have to beat out new land use regulations. YOu have a ton of new housing in the immediate area - and a need for more and more franchise type of operations - like it or not. And - as proven in AP, theres room for the non-standard palces as well. Plenty of $$$ in the area to be spent. The partners are sitting on gold, and they now it. The that gets built up around them, the shiner that pot gets. What they pay in taxes is drop in the bucket to the final payoff. Something willhappen at the bc, the salvation army tower, another new hotel - in time. You guys missed the most important Asbury related fact of the Freehold mall expansion. It was proposed in July '06, approved Sept '06, groundbreaking was Feb '07, and tenants will be in by Nov '07. 16 months from dream to reality, and if it wasn't for Holiday Shopping crowds, construction would have started earlier. To compare, Madison Marquette was named developer in May '06: http://tinyurl.com/2nlray In the same time Asbury turned ratables into parking lots, Freehold is turning parking lots into ratables. Yet the story doesn't even mention who the developer was on the project? I wonder if the taxpayers of Freehold even care who the developer is and what awards he has won? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
