[AsburyPark] Re: a political rant
That's the problem with journalists, when they get TOO close, to those they are supposed to investigate! You've lost me to Gwen Ifill forever! To look at Gwen, right off, you'd say, oh, an African-American! Wrong! She's from the Caribbean and not African American in the truest sense! Just as all whites aren't from England, the same goes for Blacks, as was the case with Colin Powell, whose parentage is also from the West Indies. Things just aren't what they seem. In the fight for civil rights, Gwen and Colin were absent on the picket lines, but take advantage of any gains American Blacks have achieved. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Except for Gwen My Dinners with Condi Ifill. AMY GOODMAN: You also write about Gwen Ifill and Condoleezza Rice. ERIC BOEHLERT: Right, they are good friends. Condoleezza Rice said at a function, talked about how they'd had dinner together, and Gwen Ifill was such a great cook, and this was right at the time when Condoleezza Rice was in -- got in trouble for not being up to speed, not reading an entire N.I.E. report. This was the whole Joe Wilson, aluminum tubes from Africa, and her explanation at the time was, `well, I didn't read the whole report,' but within weeks she had told Gwen Ifill two completely different explanations. But Gwen Ifill didn't ask her the obvious follow-up question: `Did you read the report or did you not?' And again, the fact that they're buddies and have a close social friendship, maybe it explains it. I don't know what else explains the sort of timidity that we've seen. http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/06/07/1420203 On Nov 2, 2007, at 4:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 11/2/2007 1:38:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is anybody else sick to death of the complete and utter bullshit being heaped upon America this election season? THIS election season? Since 24/7 cable news lured people from newspapers, all election seasons are hellish. Tabloid TV. Gotcha gobbledygook. Breathless (Wolfe) Blitzer and his clones turn everything into a crisis. And the season is now interminable, 365 days of every year. Remember when there were only 2 or 3 debates? My vote for sane TV reporting: PBS's NewsHour With Jim Lehrer See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
The bottom line is the CH is one of the focal points of Asbury Park that people will judge it by.? It looks like crap in the inside now, broken tile floors, cracks on the wall etc.? An attractive and fixed up CH will do alot to the revival of the town. -Original Message- From: Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 4 Nov 2007 7:52 am Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave. Considering that people go to Convention hall (shows and events are scheduled) maybe that is why there is a focus.? I gather the impression that some will not be happy unless Asbury Park looks exactly as it did in 1972 and back they it was failing.? - Original Message From: charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2007 3:49:55 PM Subject: Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave. Another inappropriate use of resources and waste of money. Large concrete planters and lots of plants - WHY ??? Has it not occured to anyone that there is a saddly neglected formal park right there. Bradley park is what needs the plants - to be restored as a beutiful landscape. So, they spend tons on money to put potted plants next to the park. Dysfunctional Theres nothing wrong with the planters in my opinion.? They look nice.? You're right however, there's no functional reason for their existence... . But does there have to be The shrubs planted decades ago on each corner of Bradley Park are also pointless.? They have no privacy function behind them.? Unless you know of something?? They were planted to beautify the park.? The same way the pots beautify the Paramount courtyard and sidewalk in front of CH.? If you don't agree with how it looks, thats your opinion, which is fine!! ? ?? I'm sure Bradley Park will be restored with new grass and plants someday soon.? The park still needs to be cut down a few feet to match the new sidewalk height...? In my opinion this is why the underground sprinkler system wasn't cared for, because they new it would need to come up in the future.? Not fair that the city paid for it, and it was destroyed tho.? Something should be given back for sure. ? ? ? A completely separate issue!? The two do not connect in anyway.? You can't compare adding beautification to sidewalks and courtyards with a park that is next to them!? One thing at a time.? _ _ _ _ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail. yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
[AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
React, what else? I hate to say it, we protest to no end, in this forum, but nothing is ever solved, in our favor. Cynical? Yes! The despair is, we're powerless to get anything done! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: - There are new large scale planters around the Paramoun entrance and along Ocean ave across from CH. Their huge, and look good in my Another inappropriate use of resources and waste of money. Large concrete planters and lots of plants - WHY ??? So, they spend tons on money to put potted plants next to the park. Dysfunctional everyone is entitiled to an opinion, quite frankly i think they are totally out of place, fugly, have no historic link or value to our city, this is not south beach? its asbury, i want to know who put them there? werner were they part of the the redevelopment agreement or is this madison marquette over steping their boundaries?( wouldnt be the first time) did anyone from the city know they were going to be placed? i doubt it or there would of been a dog and pony show, like the frigging horses, two cops off the beat for p.r., b.s. does anyone know whats going to happen next ? or do we just react to the new almighty saviors? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
Disputing the location of platers is really splitting hairs.we should all me happy MM is PLANTING as well as all the others who are vested in this AP community. I like Charlie's comment. one step at time.or was it step by step, something like that. John Thanks. It makes sence to me OF COURSE plants in the park would be nice, but do you see any construction activity going on there? Why plant shurbs and trees when the ground they are planted in will soon be leveled down a few feet? The placement of the planters is purley an opinon. They are beautifucation. If you don't like them, thats fine, but it's your opinion. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: New planters around Convention hall, and Bradley park side of Ocean ave.
Considering that people go to Convention hall (shows and events are scheduled) maybe that is why there is a focus. I gather the impression that some will not be happy unless Asbury Park looks exactly as it did in 1972 and back they it was failing. There will always be people who don't like change... Change is happening and will happen in the future (a lot!). There's no way around it. Saving buidlings and historical sites are good and should be done (I know there are issues with this topic, but lets not get into that right now, stick with the overall concept). When you start adding new things, things that weren't there before, people tend to throw questions out left and right. It's wild. New things are coming, things that weren't there before. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[AsburyPark] Housing bust in Jersey hits cities hardest
Housing bust in Jersey hits cities hardest Urban residential sales fall 34%, due in part to subprime debacle Sunday, November 04, 2007 BY JOE MALINCONICO AND ROBERT GEBELOFF Star-Ledger Staff New Jersey's five-year housing boom has given way to a market with flat prices and considerably lower sales volume, a Star-Ledger analysis has found. The new reality has hit hardest in urban areas, where the number of residential sales during the first six months of 2007 is 34 percent lower than volume during the same period in 2006, according to state figures. Overall, there were nearly 20 percent fewer transactions statewide and the median price was up just 1.5 percent, after double-digit growth each year since 2002. Experts attribute some of the slump to fallout from the subprime mortgage mess, particularly in urban areas where subprime loans have fueled the housing market in recent years. East Orange, for example, had a 59 percent drop in sales volume, Paterson a 57 percent decrease, Plainfield 46 percent, Elizabeth 41 percent and Newark 37 percent. Every upswing has a downswing, said James Hughes, dean of the Edward J. Bloustein School of Planning and Public Policy at Rutgers University. And we're in the downswing. Real estate experts say it was inevitable that the years of double- digit price increases would come to an end. In normal times, real estate grows in value an average of 5 to 8 percent, said Bill Hanley, president of the New Jersey Association of Realtors. We expected to see things even out, Hanley said. Statewide, the median sale price for homes in the first half of this year was $335,000 -- only $5,000 more than in 2006, but still more than double the median price at the beginning of the decade. In some counties, there was a slight dip in median prices -- 3.3 percent in Morris, 2.7 percent in Somerset and 1.3 percent in Hunterdon. Essex County real estate managed to buck the trend, registering a 10.1 percent rise. The Star-Ledger's analysis was based on home sales reported to the state Division of Taxation, which monitors real estate values for administrative purposes. The state database contains all home sales, including newly built and existing homes, that officials deem to be made on the open market. Intrafamily transactions, for example, are excluded. The analysis found 43,179 such sales from January through June of this year -- a far cry from the 62,816 homes sold over the first six months of 2004, during the housing boom's peak. The drop in sales is not from a lack of houses on the market, real estate experts say. New Jersey's inventory of homes for sale reached record levels this year, soaring to more than 72,000 in June, they report. MAKING ADJUSTMENTS Real estate brokers say it's a buyer's market. But there are plenty of buyers who have been unable to find a place that matches their needs. Take, for example, Bruce Gaylen of Wayne. He said he has looked at at least 40 two-family houses over the past year. In all but three instances, he didn't make an offer. I don't understand how they are asking that much for some of these places, said Gaylen, a first-time buyer. Indeed, some sellers -- especially investors looking for a quick profit -- are still living in the past, experts said, asking for prices as if the market remained as robust as it had been several years ago. Those are the houses that are not selling, Hanley said. But people who have adjusted to the market, their properties are being sold in 60 to 90 days. Buyers also have become increasingly patient, brokers said, waiting for the market to hit bottom before they pull the trigger. Nobody wants to buy something for $500,000 when they think that if they wait a while they can get it for $450,000, said Lawrence Perlaki, a broker at Joseph A. Del Forno Inc., a real estate firm in Jersey City. Nobody wants to look like a sucker. Everybody wants to say they got a great deal. Of course, many prospective buyers had no choice but to move slowly into the housing market after the collapse of the subprime mortgage business. It's no longer so easy for many to borrow money to a buy a house. The industry has become more rational about how we're lending money, said Michael Borodinsky, assistant vice president for Wells Fargo Home Mortgage. The industry is scrutinizing borrowers like we should have been before. News about subprime mortgage foreclosures also has revised people's perception of the housing market, experts said. The whole subprime debacle has changed the psychology of the housing market, Hughes said. Borodinsky said some folks are not even trying to get mortgages because of an inordinate fear that financing is not available. That's not true, he said. In some cases, we're still giving 100 financing or zero-down loans. But we're being more careful about whom we're giving them to.
[AsburyPark] Re: a political rant
I believe it will get better. Much better in time. The world will recover from many of the things that make us so angry and frustrated. It just had to get this bad. In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have really lost our way in America, and I wonder if we will ever recover from our own arrogance and excesses. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT Real Estate: Asbury Park... Where Sales are Buoyant
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Mario [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WATER, WATER -- Wesley Grove, a condo in Asbury Park, one of several shore towns where prices have gone up, despite a downturn elsewhere. Home shoppers continue to stream in, == Welcome Wagons, On Your Mark! Get Set..., must be true, I actuly saw a light on in one of the duplexs at Westley Grove last night. He has a wall mount flat screen,...not that i was staring.:oP Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: NYT Real Estate: Asbury Park... Where Sales are Buoyant
In a message dated 11/4/2007 7:52:14 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: must be true, I actuly saw a light on in one of the duplexs grin Two truths I draw from the piece: 1. Great pr/marketing by AP pros responsible for getting that in today's paper, nice placement too. 2. The picture fascinates me. From that angle, doesn't look too bad. The full ocean view and partial view of the lake make a great partial frame. No amateur photographer. _Where Sales Are Buoyant - New York Times_ (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/04/realestate/04njzo.html?emex=1194235200en=ce065fd02ea5ae2bei=5087 ) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Handy Website for NJ Voter Information
In a message dated 11/4/2007 10:02:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mario, In light of the fact that I know so little about NJ Legislators, etc., these two websites, may clear up what knowledge, or the lack of the same! I have no idea how Sean Kean or Palaia voted on anything, but I've never voted for either of them, so any blunders on their part are no fault of mine. This county has been decidedly Republican, in a so-called blue state! I've never understood NJ politics and Asbury Park's is no different. Can anyone on this board cite any votes that the council made that are contrary to the will of the residents, here? I'll put my own spin on your points above. Can anyone on this board cite what aggressive actions, not tokens, Kean or Palaia have taken to benefit Asbury Park? Analyses of the four Ballot Questions here, with reasons to vote yes and reason to vote no, at least until I get to the polls, are better than sliced semolina bread for me. _Click here: News from The League of Women Voters of New Jersey_ (http://www.lwvnj.org/news/) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: [AsburyPark] Neutered Radio Nowhere Sterilizing Stifling the Boss?
In a message dated 11/3/2007 8:12:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After all, it wouldn't be so challenging (and rewarding) to seek out signs of life in music and culture had Clear Channel not _developed the machinery_ (http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/6432174/inside_clear_channel) necessary to sterilize and neuter the radio landscape. It wasn't the first corporation to try, but Clear Channel has succeeded more wildly than anyone could have anticipated. We're not in the business of providing news and information,We're not in the business of providing news and infoFortune in 2003. We're not in the business of providing well-researched music. We're simply in the business of selling our customers products. Shudder... John Ward's column One Man's Opinion in this week's Coaster is titled Radio Days. He recalls the Golden Age of Murrow, Severeid and others, and end with this: 'Radio used to be a dream,' and so it was. Television, once hailed as an electronic miracle of immense promise, could have improved on that dream, but greed and poor taste have made it more like a nightmare. = Tuesday: Villapiano, Napolitani, Pirnat,... (http://www.njvoterinfo.org/) ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
