[AsburyPark] Re: A big fan of Pivinski here!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: . So much for your argument unless you meant those poor folks who would benefit are in Greenland and Siberia. And Canada. Buy land in interior Canada. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A big fan of Pivinski here!
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure where you got your geology and earth-science degree Tom, Wasn't aware I needed one. I don't rely on what a person says based upon his title. He still has to make sense and tell me the truth, otherwise we end up with a world run by academic ellitists. As Reagan said, trust but verify. The world's temperature rose 1/3 of a degree the last century, and somehow the enviro extremists are convincing people (not me of course) that we caused it and it's doomsday. 1/3 of one degree. I'm starting to collect crazy claims about things that allegedly cause global warming (like having babies and eating meat) and things that global warming is causing (other than mass hysteria, there's nothing). Maybe I'll write a book. In the end, it will have proved to be about 2 things: Another excuse for taxes (already pols are talking about a personal carbon emission tax) and about global economy, of which USA is still the giant, and this is a reason to artificially change the playing field. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
Another victory for environmentalists, more problems for us. From today's Press: Monmouth freeholders approve open space grants for municipalities William Heine Reader Submitted The Board of Chosen Freeholders has approved grants totaling $2,301,000 from the 2007 Monmouth County Open Space Trust Fund to acquire, create or improve park facilities in 11 municipalities. This program helps municipalities preserve open space and acquire and improve parkland by sharing the costs with the county, said Freeholder Lillian G. Burry, liaison to the county's Park System. Both land acquisition and park, recreation and open space improvement efforts were eligible and considered. This is a valuable tool to help municipalities maintain and improve the quality of life in their communities. All of the county's 53 municipalities were eligible to apply for funding awards. Twenty towns made requests seeking a total of $3.9 million. The Board of Chosen Freeholders approved the grant awards at its Dec. 6 regular meeting. This is the fifth year of the program. Maximum $250,000 grants, all for acquisition, were awarded to five municipalities: Allentown, for the acquisition and preservation of a 33-acre parcel on Breza Road as part of a regional plan and partnership with Upper Freehold, Washington Township, and the regional Board of Education. Belmar, for the acquisition of the .28 acres of waterfront property adjacent to the Shark River Inlet. Holmdel, for the acquisition of a 12-acre parcel adjacent to Mahoras Brook and an existing municipal park. Tinton Falls, for the acquisition of 4.89 acres located between State, town, and school lands. Upper Freehold, for the acquisition and preservation of a 35-acre parcel on Breza Road as part of a regional plan and partnership with Allentown, Washington Township, and the regional Board of Education. Six other municipalities were granted funding awards, in the following amounts: Aberdeen, $169,000 for new and improved access to the waterfront at Seawall Park. Hazlet, $238,000 for boardwalk, gazebo, and tennis court improvements as well as a new skate park area at Veterans? Memorial Park. Howell, $150,000 for improvements to a 178-acre park, including two off-leash dog areas, fountains, benches and fencing. Sea Bright, $153,000 for the improvements to an oceanfront park including the creation of a concrete skateboard park. Sea Girt, $238,000 for a cooperative project with the Board of Education to create a new, multi-use play facility to support municipal recreation programs. Union Beach, $103,000 for Phase 2 of a project to rehabilitate and expand Scholer Park. Land acquisition and development for park recreation and open-space purposes are made possible by the Monmouth County Municipal Open Space Grant Program, a competitive matching-funds program for municipalities sponsored by the Monmouth County Board of Chosen Freeholders and administered by the Monmouth County Park System. Applications were due Sept. 19. The county's significant contribution to the Riverdale Avenue East acquisition allows us to protect and link nearly five acres of land with a state natural area and municipal and school properties, Tinton Falls Mayor Peter Maclearie said. This county program is a perfect example of the county's willingness to support local community efforts to preserve open space and maintain the quality of life in Monmouth County. Applications for the 2008 Monmouth County Municipal Open Space Grant Program will be available on or about May 1. The filing deadline will be in September. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A big fan of Pivinski here!
Glad to see that your legal degree gives you the ability to serve as a subject matter expert in opposition to all those academics (also know as scientists) who are in overwhelming agreement on this issue. You were very critical of Springsteen for commenting on politics - which per your argument was not his area of expertise. So now you are more qualified than the scientific community??? Why should you ask others to stay out of areas you feel they are not qualified to comment on yet you are all-knowing and an expert in everything? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: Not sure where you got your geology and earth-science degree Tom, Wasn't aware I needed one. I don't rely on what a person says based upon his title. He still has to make sense and tell me the truth, otherwise we end up with a world run by academic ellitists. As Reagan said, trust but verify. The world's temperature rose 1/3 of a degree the last century, and somehow the enviro extremists are convincing people (not me of course) that we caused it and it's doomsday. 1/3 of one degree. I'm starting to collect crazy claims about things that allegedly cause global warming (like having babies and eating meat) and things that global warming is causing (other than mass hysteria, there's nothing). Maybe I'll write a book. In the end, it will have proved to be about 2 things: Another excuse for taxes (already pols are talking about a personal carbon emission tax) and about global economy, of which USA is still the giant, and this is a reason to artificially change the playing field. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
You're right. Who wants to preserve open space. Trees suck. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another victory for environmentalists, more problems for us. From today's Press: Monmouth freeholders approve open space grants for municipalities William Heine Reader Submitted The Board of Chosen Freeholders has approved grants totaling $2,301,000 from the 2007 Monmouth County Open Space Trust Fund to acquire, create or improve park facilities in 11 municipalities. This program helps municipalities preserve open space and acquire and improve parkland by sharing the costs with the county, said Freeholder Lillian G. Burry, liaison to the county's Park System. Both land acquisition and park, recreation and open space improvement efforts were eligible and considered. This is a valuable tool to help municipalities maintain and improve the quality of life in their communities. All of the county's 53 municipalities were eligible to apply for funding awards. Twenty towns made requests seeking a total of $3.9 million. The Board of Chosen Freeholders approved the grant awards at its Dec. 6 regular meeting. This is the fifth year of the program. Maximum $250,000 grants, all for acquisition, were awarded to five municipalities: Allentown, for the acquisition and preservation of a 33-acre parcel on Breza Road as part of a regional plan and partnership with Upper Freehold, Washington Township, and the regional Board of Education. Belmar, for the acquisition of the .28 acres of waterfront property adjacent to the Shark River Inlet. Holmdel, for the acquisition of a 12-acre parcel adjacent to Mahoras Brook and an existing municipal park. Tinton Falls, for the acquisition of 4.89 acres located between State, town, and school lands. Upper Freehold, for the acquisition and preservation of a 35-acre parcel on Breza Road as part of a regional plan and partnership with Allentown, Washington Township, and the regional Board of Education. Six other municipalities were granted funding awards, in the following amounts: Aberdeen, $169,000 for new and improved access to the waterfront at Seawall Park. Hazlet, $238,000 for boardwalk, gazebo, and tennis court improvements as well as a new skate park area at Veterans? Memorial Park. Howell, $150,000 for improvements to a 178-acre park, including two off-leash dog areas, fountains, benches and fencing. Sea Bright, $153,000 for the improvements to an oceanfront park including the creation of a concrete skateboard park. Sea Girt, $238,000 for a cooperative project with the Board of Education to create a new, multi-use play facility to support municipal recreation programs. Union Beach, $103,000 for Phase 2 of a project to rehabilitate and expand Scholer Park. Land acquisition and development for park recreation and open-space purposes are made possible by the Monmouth County Municipal Open Space Grant Program, a competitive matching-funds program for municipalities sponsored by the Monmouth County Board of Chosen Freeholders and administered by the Monmouth County Park System. Applications were due Sept. 19. The county's significant contribution to the Riverdale Avenue East acquisition allows us to protect and link nearly five acres of land with a state natural area and municipal and school properties, Tinton Falls Mayor Peter Maclearie said. This county program is a perfect example of the county's willingness to support local community efforts to preserve open space and maintain the quality of life in Monmouth County. Applications for the 2008 Monmouth County Municipal Open Space Grant Program will be available on or about May 1. The filing deadline will be in September. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
And biodiversity, who needs it. Let's populate the earth with more and more humans and build over every last piece of the globe. And on the way, lets kill each other over it. Because we can, it is our God given right. In the United States there are about 3000 Rite Aids, that look exactly the same. Is that what we need? It is just an unnessary repeat at this point. Lastly, conservatives should be conservationists. Remember that blow hard Teddy Roosevelt. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're right. Who wants to preserve open space. Trees suck. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] House full of stolen bikes
This past summer and friend and I went to Cookman for drinks. Were biking home very late and about 3 sheets to the wind. We passed a house with a garage behind it. The garage door was open and on the lawn were about 20 or 30 bikes. A woman on the lawn was talking with a man in a white panel truck who was loading the bikes. It took me till the next morning to realize what I'd seen. I always wondered why you never saw your stolen bike locked up somewhere else in your town. They were taking them far, far away for resale, I guess. I didn't know Asbury very well so I couldn't reconstruct what street I was on. Sure wish I could. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: House full of stolen bikes
I didn't know Asbury very well so I couldn't reconstruct what street I was on. Sure wish I could. If you do, let me know. I wouldn't mine going there and offering to buy bike 2 bikes that were stolen from me. Actually, 2 years ago, I had a bike stolen. They kind of waited until I agonized and finally purchased it from Peddlars. I had a good idea who did it. A tenant of mine, in Ocean Twp, not AP. I even offered the kid $100 to help me find it. Nothing. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
It boogles the mind to think that a person could see something bad about wanting to preserve open spaces in the Garden State --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another victory for environmentalists, more problems for us. From today's Press: Monmouth freeholders approve open space grants for municipalities William Heine Reader Submitted The Board of Chosen Freeholders has approved grants totaling $2,301,000 from the 2007 Monmouth County Open Space Trust Fund to acquire, create or improve park facilities in 11 municipalities. This program helps municipalities preserve open space and acquire and improve parkland by sharing the costs with the county, said Freeholder Lillian G. Burry, liaison to the county's Park System. Both land acquisition and park, recreation and open space improvement efforts were eligible and considered. This is a valuable tool to help municipalities maintain and improve the quality of life in their communities. All of the county's 53 municipalities were eligible to apply for funding awards. Twenty towns made requests seeking a total of $3.9 million. The Board of Chosen Freeholders approved the grant awards at its Dec. 6 regular meeting. This is the fifth year of the program. Maximum $250,000 grants, all for acquisition, were awarded to five municipalities: Allentown, for the acquisition and preservation of a 33-acre parcel on Breza Road as part of a regional plan and partnership with Upper Freehold, Washington Township, and the regional Board of Education. Belmar, for the acquisition of the .28 acres of waterfront property adjacent to the Shark River Inlet. Holmdel, for the acquisition of a 12-acre parcel adjacent to Mahoras Brook and an existing municipal park. Tinton Falls, for the acquisition of 4.89 acres located between State, town, and school lands. Upper Freehold, for the acquisition and preservation of a 35-acre parcel on Breza Road as part of a regional plan and partnership with Allentown, Washington Township, and the regional Board of Education. Six other municipalities were granted funding awards, in the following amounts: Aberdeen, $169,000 for new and improved access to the waterfront at Seawall Park. Hazlet, $238,000 for boardwalk, gazebo, and tennis court improvements as well as a new skate park area at Veterans? Memorial Park. Howell, $150,000 for improvements to a 178-acre park, including two off-leash dog areas, fountains, benches and fencing. Sea Bright, $153,000 for the improvements to an oceanfront park including the creation of a concrete skateboard park. Sea Girt, $238,000 for a cooperative project with the Board of Education to create a new, multi-use play facility to support municipal recreation programs. Union Beach, $103,000 for Phase 2 of a project to rehabilitate and expand Scholer Park. Land acquisition and development for park recreation and open-space purposes are made possible by the Monmouth County Municipal Open Space Grant Program, a competitive matching-funds program for municipalities sponsored by the Monmouth County Board of Chosen Freeholders and administered by the Monmouth County Park System. Applications were due Sept. 19. The county's significant contribution to the Riverdale Avenue East acquisition allows us to protect and link nearly five acres of land with a state natural area and municipal and school properties, Tinton Falls Mayor Peter Maclearie said. This county program is a perfect example of the county's willingness to support local community efforts to preserve open space and maintain the quality of life in Monmouth County. Applications for the 2008 Monmouth County Municipal Open Space Grant Program will be available on or about May 1. The filing deadline will be in September. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The next time you see a family that can't afford a home, or a poorer family that can't afford to live in one, make sure you are just as sarcastic toward them. If none of you can see that the issues of setting aside enourmous amounts of land in rich towns like Marlboro and Middletown and that poorer people can't find places to live are connected, then it's not worth discussing it with you. He's got a point there. It is sometimes seen as an attempt to fend off affordable housing. Affordable housing programs in NJ are for the most part, a joke. The only reason they do get built is part of an overall development of larger homes whereby the developer sues the muni for not meeting the requirements. Or, in a case like AP, where the master developer promised to deliver $7m in funds to a city BASED UPON units COMPLETED/Cert Occuppancy. AP is a city that Monmouth County Parks and Rec doesn't know about or the City lacks the abilty to get funds for. Look at all those recreation fields in AP Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
For those Ronnie Ketchup is a vegetable Raygun quoters: Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do. -- Ronald Reagan, 1981 http://www.allhatnocattle.net/reagan%20quotes.htm On Dec 19, 2007, at 8:34 AM, asburycouple wrote: You're right. Who wants to preserve open space. Trees suck. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another victory for environmentalists, more problems for us. From today's Press: Monmouth freeholders approve open space grants for municipalities William Heine Reader Submitted The Board of Chosen Freeholders has approved grants totaling $2,301,000 from the 2007 Monmouth County Open Space Trust Fund to acquire, create or improve park facilities in 11 municipalities. This program helps municipalities preserve open space and acquire and improve parkland by sharing the costs with the county, said Freeholder Lillian G. Burry, liaison to the county's Park System. Both land acquisition and park, recreation and open space improvement efforts were eligible and considered. This is a valuable tool to help municipalities maintain and improve the quality of life in their communities. All of the county's 53 municipalities were eligible to apply for funding awards. Twenty towns made requests seeking a total of $3.9 million. The Board of Chosen Freeholders approved the grant awards at its Dec. 6 regular meeting. This is the fifth year of the program. Maximum $250,000 grants, all for acquisition, were awarded to five municipalities: • Allentown, for the acquisition and preservation of a 33-acre parcel on Breza Road as part of a regional plan and partnership with Upper Freehold, Washington Township, and the regional Board of Education. • Belmar, for the acquisition of the .28 acres of waterfront property adjacent to the Shark River Inlet. • Holmdel, for the acquisition of a 12-acre parcel adjacent to Mahoras Brook and an existing municipal park. • Tinton Falls, for the acquisition of 4.89 acres located between State, town, and school lands. • Upper Freehold, for the acquisition and preservation of a 35-acre parcel on Breza Road as part of a regional plan and partnership with Allentown, Washington Township, and the regional Board of Education. Six other municipalities were granted funding awards, in the following amounts: • Aberdeen, $169,000 for new and improved access to the waterfront at Seawall Park. • Hazlet, $238,000 for boardwalk, gazebo, and tennis court improvements as well as a new skate park area at Veterans? Memorial Park. • Howell, $150,000 for improvements to a 178-acre park, including two off-leash dog areas, fountains, benches and fencing. • Sea Bright, $153,000 for the improvements to an oceanfront park including the creation of a concrete skateboard park. • Sea Girt, $238,000 for a cooperative project with the Board of Education to create a new, multi-use play facility to support municipal recreation programs. • Union Beach, $103,000 for Phase 2 of a project to rehabilitate and expand Scholer Park. Land acquisition and development for park recreation and open-space purposes are made possible by the Monmouth County Municipal Open Space Grant Program, a competitive matching-funds program for municipalities sponsored by the Monmouth County Board of Chosen Freeholders and administered by the Monmouth County Park System. Applications were due Sept. 19. The county's significant contribution to the Riverdale Avenue East acquisition allows us to protect and link nearly five acres of land with a state natural area and municipal and school properties, Tinton Falls Mayor Peter Maclearie said. This county program is a perfect example of the county's willingness to support local community efforts to preserve open space and maintain the quality of life in Monmouth County. Applications for the 2008 Monmouth County Municipal Open Space Grant Program will be available on or about May 1. The filing deadline will be in September. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
@ wrote: Another victory for environmentalists, more problems for us. From today's Press: AP COUNCIL and BOE should read this from that article and take a HINT: Sea Girt, $238,000 for a cooperative project with the Board of Education to create a new, multi-use play facility to support municipal recreation programs. ...a cooperative project This is what ALL muni's have to learn. It's the same goal. Not 2 fiefdoms. Fiefdom: Fiefdomism can refer to behavior of bureaucrats or small time politicians when information or programs are isolated and jealously guarded from other bureaucrats or small time politicians in order to preserve their power at the expense of making government worse. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Another victory for environmentalists, more problems for us. From today's Press: Monmouth freeholders approve open space grants for municipalities And look what town, once again, either didn't ask or asked but didn't receive. Using DAn's thoughts - you got nothing but ourselves (yourselves) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Stumbling toward Communisn, High Land Prices andS Segregation
The next time you see a family that can't afford a home, or a poorer family that can't afford to live in one, make sure you are just as sarcastic toward them. If none of you can see that the issues of setting aside enourmous amounts of land in rich towns like Marlboro and Middletown and that poorer people can't find places to live are connected, then it's not worth discussing it with you. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And biodiversity, who needs it. Let's populate the earth with more and more humans and build over every last piece of the globe. And on the way, lets kill each other over it. Because we can, it is our God given right. In the United States there are about 3000 Rite Aids, that look exactly the same. Is that what we need? It is just an unnessary repeat at this point. Lastly, conservatives should be conservationists. Remember that blow hard Teddy Roosevelt. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycouple asburycouple@ wrote: You're right. Who wants to preserve open space. Trees suck. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: House full of stolen bikes
I saw a story on TV about five years ago, some bikes are stolen, put on boats and shipped to island countries to sell to locals who can't afford cars. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, lindagriggsartist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It took me till the next morning to realize what I'd seen. I always wondered why you never saw your stolen bike locked up somewhere else in your town. They were taking them far, far away for resale, I guess. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Obama Meet-Up at Ocean Township's Panera Bread, Thursday
Monmouth County Obama Meet-Up in Ocean Township. Planning for New Jersey's primary election Feb. 5 Time: Thursday, December 13 at 7:30 PM Duration: 1 hour Host: Philip Blackwood Contact Phone: 732-687-3202 Location: Panera Bread, Ocean Township (Ocean, NJ) 1100 Route 35 Ocean, NJ 07712 Associated Groups: Central NJ for Obama http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/CentralNJforObama , Jersey Shore for Obama http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/JerseyShoreforObama , Monmouth University for Obama http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/MonmouthUniversityforObama Directions: near Wegman's BarackObama.com | Event | Monmouth County meet-up http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/4vgdk == From Republican David Brooks' December 18 column: The Obama-Clinton Issue - New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/18/opinion/18brooks.html?_r=1hporef=sl\ ogin Obama is an inner-directed man in a profession filled with insecure outer-directed ones. Like most of the rival campaigns, I've been poring over press clippings from Obama's past, looking for inconsistencies and flip-flops. There are virtually none. Moreover, he has a worldview that precedes political positions. Obama does not ratchet up hostilities; he restrains them. He does not lash out at perceived enemies, but is aloof from them. In the course of this struggle to discover who he is, Obama clearly learned from the strain of pessimistic optimism that stretches back from Martin Luther King Jr. to Abraham Lincoln. This is a worldview that detests anger as a motivating force, that distrusts easy dichotomies between the parties of good and evil, believing instead that the crucial dichotomy runs between the good and bad within each individual. Obama does not perceive politics as a series of battles but as a series of systemic problems to be addressed. He pursues liberal ends in gradualist, temperamentally conservative ways. Obama reveals glimpses of the ability to step outside his own ego and look at reality in uninhibited and honest ways. He still retains the capacity, also rare in presidents, of being able to sympathize with and grasp the motivations of his rivals. The presidency is a bacterium. It finds the open wounds in the people who hold it. The person with the fewest wounds usually does best in the White House, and is best for the country.
[AsburyPark] NEWS 12 will be covering
FYI: News12 NJ looking for info on today's Esperanza conference. Looks like they will be at the ESP conference. Dress nice. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Werner's secret life
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Re: [AsburyPark] Obama Meet-Up at Ocean Township's Panera Bread, Thursday
Re: Mario, It looks like this event happened last week. Just checked on it with Adam Goldfarb at 973-243-7076 who left voice mail for me last night. It is set for tomorrow night, 12/20. They had one last week too he says, so I may have copied from a cached web site. Sorry for the confusion. See also the contact name and number previously posted. **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop000304)
[AsburyPark] Re: Werner's secret life
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny. http://www.cnn.com/2007/TRAVEL/getaways/12/19/rothenburg.ap/index.html Baumgartner makes no apology for the fact that tourism is the town's - - and his -- lifeblood. We just had to wait long enough until the tourist business started, and now we are back, world-famous, rich again, because of you, he tells his appreciative audience. . There's a devil and it's hell, but it's still a nice place, Baumgartner said. When you walk around our streets and someone tells you go to hell, it's a good recommendation. Predictable, perhaps, but that line got a laugh, too Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] House full of stolen bikes
So let me just recap your some of your post-the part about you being 3 sheets to the wind. So you can then assume(ass u me) that the bikes were stolen not that the person loading the bike was a bike shop owner? - Original Message From: lindagriggsartist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:04:33 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] House full of stolen bikes This past summer and friend and I went to Cookman for drinks. Were biking home very late and about 3 sheets to the wind. We passed a house with a garage behind it. The garage door was open and on the lawn were about 20 or 30 bikes. A woman on the lawn was talking with a man in a white panel truck who was loading the bikes. It took me till the next morning to realize what I'd seen. I always wondered why you never saw your stolen bike locked up somewhere else in your town. They were taking them far, far away for resale, I guess. I didn't know Asbury very well so I couldn't reconstruct what street I was on. Sure wish I could. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[AsburyPark] Today's press conference.
Here's hoping that ALL of our councilmen bury their differences, display some unity, and put forward the best possible assesment of Asbury Park's redevelopment in light of the current economic climate. This is no time for grandstanding. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] what should replace the E-8 II
I suggest we build a indoor water park that includes a jazz club , a gospel club and few more various music clubsand small play houses. I suggest we build the boardwalk back up with rides and various food and concecession stands/restaurants. I suggest we make Asbury Park the family friendly place that it use to be. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Today's press conference.
Well said. The market conditions as well as the surplus of units, will present opportunity to make change. - Original Message From: Paul Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 1:05:28 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] Today's press conference. Here's hoping that ALL of our councilmen bury their differences, display some unity, and put forward the best possible assesment of Asbury Park's redevelopment in light of the current economic climate. This is no time for grandstanding. Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[AsburyPark] Re: Maureens Column
Okay! I meant in the group HERE! I don't read the app.com comments, because they started publishing them in the paper! Tommu gets a bye for being sick. Hope you feel better, Tommy. To all who commented in the AP Press, KUDOS! I've been on my December social circle, so I haven't had time to post here. Sorry, if I posted improperly, but meant that I hadn't read any comments, here! Sorry, for the mix-up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/17/2007 7:40:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to congratulate Maureen, on her new column, with the Asbury Park Press, a legitimate, mainstream Newspaper. No one in this forum, has bothered to comment on it Wrong. Frank D was first and I was second. They must have taken the comments off from last week. (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=pluckpersonaU=3368a999d7d449dba57d755931470075) Mairemartello wrote: Good article, Maureen. Coverage of radio is very important in these days of talk radio. Glad APP has brought you aboard. The only NYC paper that covers radio is the New York Daily News! 12/10/2007 4:21:35 PM (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=pluckpersonaU=2c204719f1024451a59e566a3dddf556) dfsavgny wrote: Local radio is an important asset that is quickly vanishing. it provides an alternative to the mass-produced comglomerates that are taking over not only the public airwaves, but most media. If there are not local and independent alternatives, we will some day only see and hear what they want us to. Remember, the air waves are PUBLIC property. Let's make sure that there are still independent voices for the public. One of those valuable independent local voices is Maureen Nevin. We need to get ASBURY RADIO back on the air! It is sorely missed. 12/10/2007 12:07:07 PM (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?category=pluckpersonaU=c8bb22073a8d4e9094de2e770fd189da) asburyfrank wrote: What a terrific article about Doris! She and her husband John are such wonderful, positive and talented people, and El Lobo is greatly missed. Nice work, Maureen, and I'd say that even if I weren't your friend! We need to get your voice about all things Asbury Park back on the air, too! 12/10/2007 9:26:30 AM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: New file uploaded to AsburyPark
I can't see or hear it. Which player are you using? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Wow This is awesome! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com wrote: Very very funny. Actually, that brings me right back to little league. We once went on a trip to Yankee stadium. It was bat day. Somewhere, up in my parent's attic, there migh be a Joe Pepitone bat. It was those little billy clubs. I think it was a red sox doubleheader. Completely out of control crowd. Little League. An amazing thing for a kid. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] 1/3 of one degree.
Tommie, can you hear me? Go to the mir..er...window. Yer right, .3334 of a degree is a little less than .4. But when you look out that window, past rigor's assassin, can't you see the errors. Poisonous exhaust literally choking our atmosphere. Unholy wars fought over it. Environmental holocaust around the globe resultant from the mining of fossil fuels. A little common sense can go a long way. Maybe Gore is wrong about global warming. Wouldn't surprise me. But he isn't wrong that these issues aren't poison. and still has the balls to say... If none of you can see that the issues of setting aside enormous amounts of land in rich towns like Marlboro and Middletown and that poorer people can't find places to live are connected, then it's not worth discussing it with you. C'mon argue with that, because all this money .Hazlet, $238,000 for boardwalk, gazebo, and tennis court improvements as well as a new skate park area at Veterans? Memorial Park. • Howell, $150,000 for improvements to a 178-acre park, including two off-leash dog areas, fountains, benches and fencing. • Sea Bright, $153,000 for the improvements to an oceanfront park including the creation of a concrete skateboard park. • Sea Girt, $238,000 for a cooperative project with the Board of Education to create a new, multi-use play facility to support municipal recreation programs. • Union Beach, $103,000 for Phase 2 of a project to rehabilitate and expand Scholer Park. will go to waste, will be stole, will be stolen again, will be given to somebody's bro-in-law just because. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] AP Group Pets
Since the issue of dogs/pets have been posted here over the past few days, I took the liberty of creating a new photo album for us to share photos of our pets. Nothing obscene please. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] mumblin stumblin walkin humble
lehinge wrote... It boogles the mind to think that a person could see something bad about wanting to preserve open spaces in the Garden State and Joni Mitchell wrote... Both Sides, Now by Joni Mitchell Rows and flows of angel hair Hazlet, $238,000 for boardwalk, gazebo, and tennis court And ice cream castles in the air And feather canyons everywhere I've looked at clouds that way But now they only block the sun Howell, $150,000 for improvements to a 178-acre park They rain and snow on everyone So many things I would have done But clouds got in my way I've looked at clouds from both sides now From up and down, and still somehow Sea Bright, $153,000 for the improvements to an oceanfront park It's cloud illusions I recall I really don't know clouds at all Moons and Junes and Ferris wheels The dizzy dancing way you feel As ev'ry fairy tale comes real I've looked at love that way But now it's just another show You leave 'em laughing when you go And if you care, don't let them know Don't give yourself away I've looked at love from both sides now From give and take, and still somehow It's love's illusions I recall I really don't know love at all Tears and fears and feeling proud To say I love you right out loud Dreams and schemes and circus crowds I've looked at life that way But now old friends are acting strange They shake their heads, they say I've changed Well something's lost, but something's gained In living every day I've looked at life from both sides now From win and lose and still somehow It's life's illusions I recall I really don't know life at all I've looked at life from both sides now From up and down, and still somehow It's life's illusions I recall I really don't know life at all Copyright © 1969; Siquomb Publishing Company Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] mumblin stumblin walkin humble
lehinge wrote... It boogles the mind to think that a person could see something bad about wanting to preserve open spaces in the Garden State and Joni Mitchell wrote... Both Sides, Now by Joni Mitchell Rows and flows of angel hair Hazlet, $238,000 for boardwalk, gazebo, and tennis court And ice cream castles in the air And feather canyons everywhere I've looked at clouds that way But now they only block the sun Howell, $150,000 for improvements to a 178-acre park They rain and snow on everyone So many things I would have done But clouds got in my way I've looked at clouds from both sides now From up and down, and still somehow Sea Bright, $153,000 for the improvements to an oceanfront park It's cloud illusions I recall I really don't know clouds at all Moons and Junes and Ferris wheels The dizzy dancing way you feel As ev'ry fairy tale comes real I've looked at love that way But now it's just another show You leave 'em laughing when you go And if you care, don't let them know Don't give yourself away I've looked at love from both sides now From give and take, and still somehow It's love's illusions I recall I really don't know love at all Tears and fears and feeling proud To say I love you right out loud Dreams and schemes and circus crowds I've looked at life that way But now old friends are acting strange They shake their heads, they say I've changed Well something's lost, but something's gained In living every day I've looked at life from both sides now From win and lose and still somehow It's life's illusions I recall I really don't know life at all I've looked at life from both sides now From up and down, and still somehow It's life's illusions I recall I really don't know life at all Copyright © 1969; Siquomb Publishing Company Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] News Conference on Metro
City gets points for getting tough. Hope it is a new approach to be expanded to Asbury Partners et al. December 19, 2007 Asbury may head to court over delayed high-rise By NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU City officials today announced they have notified Metro Homes President Dean Geibel that his Hoboken-based company is in default after Geibel told the city Dec. 7 he was halting construction and sales of the swanky 224-unit beachfront Esperanza high-rise. We need Metro Homes to get back to work or get out of the way for someone else to do the work,'' Mayor Kevin Sanders said at a city press conference this afternoon. They (Metro Homes) are in violation of their legal agreement with the city...and they have violated their commitment to the people of the Asbury Park.'' If the reason for Metro Homes' decision was the slowdown in the national real estate market, then why are they building in other towns,'' the mayor said. ''I know that this administration has kept its commitment to Metro Homes and done everything possible to make this project a success.'' At the time the shutdown was made public Dec. 10, Geibel said his company was convinced the ''national mortgage crisis now impacting real estate markets around the country represents a temporary setback...'' A few hours before today's press conference, Geibel said in a telephone interview that ''the best thing to say is that Metro Homes and Dean Geibel are feverishly working to try to get the project back on track and restarted.'' I can't give more than that right now,'' Geibel said. The point Im trying to make is that we're still very much committed to the ...rebirth of Asbury Park.'' Glenn Scotland, one of the city's redevelopment lawyers, said the city's agreement with Metro Homes specifies a 30-day cure period of the default, although in some cases it could be as much as 120 days. Our position is 30 days...,'' Scotland said. According to the letter that Geibel received today, the city said Metro Homes' was in default because it stopped work unilaterally and taking that step showed it is unable to finance and construct the Esperanza. Metro Homes also is in default because it will now fail to meet deadlines and timeframes to complete the Esperanza, and was obligated to make its best effort to construct the project. And, the city asserted, the redeveloper failed to inform the city of a change in its financial condition or its capacity to construct the project until Dec. 7. It is apparent from the timing and the course of these events that (the) redeveloper has, for a period of time, had information regarding its inability to proceed with the construction of the project...,'' the letter said. The city said Metro Homes did not share that information with city officials until moments before the stop work order was given. City officials asked that Geibel start the project back up within 72 hours of getting the letter today, cure all defaults, and provide the city with a long list of financial information within five days from being notified. Specifically, the city's seeking Metro Homes' applications for financing submitted to lenders, any loan commitments and loan documentation for the Esperanza, all sales information on contracts or deposits, all construction costs and expenses of the project to date, and all liens or encumbrances on the oceanfront property between Third and Fourth avenues. The city says the developer must explain why Metro Homes stopped the Esperanza over other Metro Homes projects, and give a comparison of Metro Homes' proposed return on investment during the project development compared to the current proposed return on investment on the day of the decision to stop work. Geibel said last week that work was continuing on his other projects which he has previously described as large condominium developments -- one in Hoboken, and two in Jersey City, one of which he is partnered with Donald Trump. Geibel and his partner, Paul Fried, made their interest in Asbury Park development public in 2004, saying they would take on the failed C-8 steel skeletal site of New England builder Joseph Carabetta who filed for bankruptcy in the early 1990s and held the city's beachfront hostage from development until Asbury Partners bought him out in 2001. Metro Homes came into Asbury Park behind the pioneering subdevelopers lined up by Asbury Partners -- Paramount Homes, which is completing its first block north of the Berkeley Hotel, and Westminster Communities, which has completed its first block next to Wesley Lake, but appears to be getting out, possibly with a sale of its project to the city's boardwalk retail developer, Madison Marquette. Geibel said last week that Metro Homes had pre-sold about 70 of the 224 Esperanza units. The building is to be two towers, 10 and 16 stories. Two or three stories are visible at this point above ground. City Manager Terence Reidy said at the press conference that he had talked with Geibel
[AsburyPark] Re: House full of stolen bikes
Do most legitimate vendors do business after the bars close? and do they use plain, white panel trucks? You're right, I'm just guessing. And I was drunk. But when I'm sober, gaul dang it, I'm not naive. BTW, Happy New Year Everybody. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So let me just recap your some of your post-the part about you being 3 sheets to the wind. So you can then assume(ass u me) that the bikes were stolen not that the person loading the bike was a bike shop owner? - Original Message From: lindagriggsartist [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:04:33 AM Subject: [AsburyPark] House full of stolen bikes This past summer and friend and I went to Cookman for drinks. Were biking home very late and about 3 sheets to the wind. We passed a house with a garage behind it. The garage door was open and on the lawn were about 20 or 30 bikes. A woman on the lawn was talking with a man in a white panel truck who was loading the bikes. It took me till the next morning to realize what I'd seen. I always wondered why you never saw your stolen bike locked up somewhere else in your town. They were taking them far, far away for resale, I guess. I didn't know Asbury very well so I couldn't reconstruct what street I was on. Sure wish I could. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Fri. PARAMONT SAVES 500 Kids X-mas Party : Maureens Column
---YOU GO GIRL! Well done Ms M! Bob, Doris and John are great community leaders and so are you, Welcome Back! FYI: Can you Please cover the Paramont SAVES the CHANT Food Pantry KIDS Xmas Party on Dec 21, 2007 6pm -8pm. With donated toys, clothes and food for 500 Kids AND THEIR FAMILIES, the CHANT Food Pantry had no place to host their 10th Annual Kid's Xmas party until Mega gave the go ahead today for the FREE OF CHARGE use of the Paramont Theatre. Hope to See ALL of you there! Shangazi In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay! I meant in the group HERE! I don't read the app.com comments, because they started publishing them in the paper! Tommu gets a bye for being sick. Hope you feel better, Tommy. To all who commented in the AP Press, KUDOS! I've been on my December social circle, so I haven't had time to post here. Sorry, if I posted improperly, but meant that I hadn't read any comments, here! Sorry, for the mix-up! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, MarioAPNJ@ wrote: In a message dated 12/17/2007 7:40:13 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, dfsavgny@ writes: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com) , 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just want to congratulate Maureen, on her new column, with the Asbury Park Press, a legitimate, mainstream Newspaper. No one in this forum, has bothered to comment on it Wrong. Frank D was first and I was second. They must have taken the comments off from last week. (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section? category=pluckpersonaU=3368a999d7d449dba57d755931470075) Mairemartello wrote: Good article, Maureen. Coverage of radio is very important in these days of talk radio. Glad APP has brought you aboard. The only NYC paper that covers radio is the New York Daily News! 12/10/2007 4:21:35 PM (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section? category=pluckpersonaU=2c204719f1024451a59e566a3dddf556) dfsavgny wrote: Local radio is an important asset that is quickly vanishing. it provides an alternative to the mass-produced comglomerates that are taking over not only the public airwaves, but most media. If there are not local and independent alternatives, we will some day only see and hear what they want us to. Remember, the air waves are PUBLIC property. Let's make sure that there are still independent voices for the public. One of those valuable independent local voices is Maureen Nevin. We need to get ASBURY RADIO back on the air! It is sorely missed. 12/10/2007 12:07:07 PM (http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section? category=pluckpersonaU=c8bb22073a8d4e9094de2e770fd189da) asburyfrank wrote: What a terrific article about Doris! She and her husband John are such wonderful, positive and talented people, and El Lobo is greatly missed. Nice work, Maureen, and I'd say that even if I weren't your friend! We need to get your voice about all things Asbury Park back on the air, too! 12/10/2007 9:26:30 AM Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: News Conference on Metro
...ok. I made it to the press conference today. Got ot meet John as well. My take: It was nice to see a unified, public response to Metro's work stoppage. 1. I didn't get the chance to ask WHEN did Dean first approach the city about changing the design - was it Dec 7 - doubtful. So when he did mention it, did anyone ask WHY? 2. Nancy Shields kind of asked a few tough questions... 3. I would like to see the Star ledger version of the press conference. She was pretty good at asking questions - trying to pin down some dates. On one question - did the city have any conversations with Dean after the stoppage - Reaidy first said just today. She pressed and he stuck to it before Johnson spoke up and said they did have a conference call - the redevelopment committee - Reidy, Bruno, and Johnson. They gave the impression that it WAS NOT so friendly - at least by way of expression. 4. On the issue of performance bonds. Complete bullshit and oversight. What private little project doesn't REQUIRE a bond. Go to build a house - a bond is required. If AP doesn't do it, they should start. I actaully did some work to collect developer's bond money - by cllsing out open issues on projects. Bonding a project insures that the project is finished as approved - from painting the lines in the parking lot to landscaping and covers the town costs - engineers, inspectors etc. THE reason given no PERFORMANCE BOND was required was WEAK - that they rely on the mortgage company lending out millions of dollars - don't you think they want the project completed. Yes, of course they do. Maybe that's what happened here as well. Dpends on how the money was handed out - was it monthly - based on sales and material needs or other timelines?? Was the loan(s) made to Metro made in free money days - now those officers who made those loans laid off, fired or elect early retirement? 4. The get tough policy is nice - but you CANNOT force them to continue - especially if there is NO MONEY to do so. Whose going to fund it? Can you force metro or the banks to lose $80 million or can they walk with a $20 million loss (guesses)?? 5. Who is going to pay for the litagation which for arguments sale has begun? Obviously, costs have already been occurred - by city attorney, dev attorney, engineers etc. To review all the docs requested by the city will require EXPERTS in various fields to review - accountants, engineers, attorneys, etc etc. Whose footing the bill? 6. The question of the costs to renovate the sewer plant was raised. Since it is being bonded by the city - who is stuck with bond payments. The response was AP Partners is. Are they, if THEY don't collect? Are they CURRENT on current obligations?? 7. On ownership of the property. I'd take my shot at this and say that PARTNERS does not own the land nor does the city that this project is being built on. It was purchased by METRO and financed by them. That is, at least until we see their agreements with Partners and their lenders. Again, something that MUST be made public i the future. 8. On Springwood Ave, when asked by Nancy Shields - the mayor said they were here to only discuss ESP. She did note that it has been SIX years.Actaully Nancy, it's been about 30. 9. The get tough policy has only one problem. That is the legal system. YOu can stick all these drop dead dates you want, but if it does wind up in the court room, lets hope its before a judge from the area and is sick and tired of the crappola. Otherwise, Metro and whomever else is dragged in, will milk this baby til the time is ripe. It better be before I'm a grandpa. LAstly before the meeting as stopped - someone pointed out tht this is just ONE project in a town that has everything going for it. And it does. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
