Re: [AsburyPark] Sound Recordings of the AP Council
Thank you Maureen. Good to hear your mellifluous voice coming through cyberspace again. Encore! Encore! In a message dated 7/12/2008 6:45:56 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eureka, it's finally happened!!! I've posted those first Mp3s of Asbury Park's council meeting (July 2). The audio on the activities file gets a little better further into the file, but I'm really too far away for good pickup. I'll sit closer to the front next time. The public session recording is very sharp. The beeping you hear isn't my recorder. It's the clerk's timer, signaling that the speaker's 3 minutes of public comment are up. Speakers get one time at the mic for the whole meeting, unless there is an ordinance open for discussion. My goal is to record more parts of the meetings. I think this will give those who can't attend meetings themselves a better idea of what goes on at council meetings, without a reporter's filter. Also, these reports will go up shortly after the meeting ends. The other advantage is that you'll be able to blog your comments right on the same page at AsburyRadio.com. So please check it out and let me know what you think. For those who'd prefer video, yes, so would I. But the bandwidth requirement for your viewing would be far greater. If someone knows of a compression technique, please let me know and we can look into it. I don't own a video camera, but do have a digital camera that takes video. All best, Maureen - Asbury Radio - The Radio Voice of Asbury Park Maybe that should be the audio voice... Yahoo! Groups Links **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Colors have nothing to do with quality! Not sure why you're
bringing that up into the case you're trying to make! :-) The
stucco used could have been done the cheap with, foam board covered
in a skim coat. That is how most stucco jobs are done today.
However, the boardwalk buildings were done the right way with multi
steps and real metal mesh.
Color has everything to do with how things are perceived and
marketed. A black building gives a different feeling than a white
building. You mis-understood what I ment by quality, i was refering
to architectural quality, although the building materials are
questionable also.
You speak about the 5th ave pavilion, the one next to CH
(Convention Hall). How is it out of place of mismatched? How does
the current building, before it was remodeled fit in with the CH?
Classical stylings next to space age modern? The only thing
matching were the orange bricks and orange details of the HOJO.
Isnt it obvious?, one end is orange, the middle is cream snd the
other end is yellow. I wasnt comparing it to the convention center,
its a building unto itself whose parts are mismatched. Cartoon
architecture. My understanding is that it had nothing to do with
HoJo (the design), but you are getting to the point, the whole
building matched originally, orange brick, details, etc.
The 5th ave pavilion is not the state capital or a classy
building. If you were to paint 2 walls of the CH different colors,
that would be maddness. However, the building you speak of was
always corky (again, before the remodel). Back when it was first
built it was space age modern, jetsons, i'm pretty sure it was ahead
of it's time back then. Imagine what people might have said about
it when it went up? Something that crazy being sat next to CH??
I'm sure there must have been quite the uproar.
Not a classy building? WoW you must not get out often {a joke}. Ive
been to a lot of places and never seen anything like that. It is
soo cool and unique, but now looks nothing like when it was designed
and built. Have you ever been to Wildwood, NJ? They really take care
of their 50s and 60s, buildings. Here they all got ruined, the
Empress is another example, I'm wondering why.
I don't think the things being done so far are cheap, but
confused may be a better way to define it. Things are not done,
nothing is completed, yet things are trying to open. They are way
behind on the dates they gave, it's a fact! But instead of
complaining about it (not you), I say let them work and try to get
things done. Of course I think the city should come up with some
sort of an agreement with MM to get some things for the boardwalk
that the city wants also. Maybe more boardwalk type food, or
other traditional boardwalk features.
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[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
Opps, Sorry, I just read my own post and realize I didnt quite answer your specific question. I never implied that the pavilion and the center were matched or should be matched. But your question is 'how did it fit before it was remodeled'. Well its unique to Asbury. Architecture goes through phases and certain buildings from the 50s/60s are recognized as worth saving. Its a record of the life of the town and in a larger picture a record of civilization. You think everything should be plowed down or remodeled just because it can be ? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie oceanchuck@ wrote: You speak about the 5th ave pavilion, the one next to CH (Convention Hall). How is it out of place of mismatched? How does the current building, before it was remodeled fit in with the CH? Classical stylings next to space age modern? The only thing matching were the orange bricks and orange details of the HOJO. Isnt it obvious?, one end is orange, the middle is cream snd the other end is yellow. I wasnt comparing it to the convention center, its a building unto itself whose parts are mismatched. Cartoon architecture. My understanding is that it had nothing to do with HoJo (the design), but you are getting to the point, the whole building matched originally, orange brick, details, etc. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: The Carousel House has Gates.
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[AsburyPark] Re: The Carousel House has Gates.
Here is a link to the picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/my73pumpkin/2659500869/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/my73pumpkin/2659500869/ --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dapawprint dapawprint@ wrote: I just viewed a Flickr picture. There are gate doors on the carousel house of The Casino. Where is that picLove to see it.
[AsburyPark] Asbury Park crime rate remains lower than in previous years
Asbury Park crime rate remains lower than in previous years BY NANCY SHIELDS COASTAL MONMOUTH BUREAU JULY 13, 2008 ASBURY PARK A downturn in crime that made last year the best in the city in a decade is continuing so far this year, according to reports for the first half of 2008. Police Chief Mark Kinmon released statistics through the end of June showing one murder compared with three at the halfway point last year. There were reports of 69 robberies compared to 86 halfway through 2007, two rapes compared with six at the same time last year, and 62 aggravated assaults compared with 74 as of June 30 last year. The reduction in homicides, if it continues, is significant, following the high of eight in 2006 and six last year. The city, like many urban communities, was hit hard with young people, often gang members, shooting and killing each other. We feel we're making a lot of progress on the gangs, Kinmon said. The county (Monmouth County Prosecutor's Office) continues to be a big help. He said the increase of the city police officers to 90 has been important as well as assigning city police members to the county gang task force, the FBI's gang task force and the U.S. Marshals fugitive task force. The city police budget had a $1.75 million increase this year, which included money for 14 positions added to the department in the past year and a half. Car thefts were down to 24 from 42 reported by the end of June last year. Burglaries were about the same, at 120 so far this year. Anytime the numbers are down, we are happy, the chief said. We've started strong for the first part of the year. We want to finish strong. We have the right people in the right positions and we have to keep the heat on, said Deputy Mayor Jimmy Bruno. The street crimes unit, which is doing one heck of a job, has to continue. If we have the resources, we'd love to increase the police department even more. A significant increase this year came in larcency, with 252 reports the first half of this year compared with 164 for the same period last year. Kinmon said the increase reflects a hot trend, here and elsewhere, of stealing navigation Global Positioning Systems (GPS) from cars. We made several arrests around the beginning of May, and it seems to have dropped, the chief said. Kinmon said city patrol officers and detectives are taking policing to a new level. For example, he said, there have been 25 driving-while-intoxicated arrests as of June 30, compared with 12 last year. And there's been an increase in traffic summonses. At the same time, the data shows a downward trend in narcotics activity. As of June 30, there were 214 reports of drug activity compared with 273 half way through last year. The total reports of drug activity in 2007 was 515, half of the total 1,038 in 2006, Kinmon said. Narcotics arrests were up 450 arrests compared with 405 halfway through 2007. Simple assaults were up from 220 to 255 for the first six months, and criminal mischief was up from 276 to 310. Disorderly conduct incidents were down from 2,003 the first half of last year, to 1,835. There's a lot of work to be done and we have a long way to go but Im very pleased with the direction the department's going, Kinmon said. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: NYT
Wait and see... Must we always be in a passive, at the mercy of...mode? What's the council's current position on performance bonds for revised building plans, new plans, old plans and boardwalk rehabs? Unless the city starts conducting itself like the expensive business that it is, its citizens will continue to be blown about by every economic setback and political wind that comes along. I've asked our redevelopment counsel this question and been told that private development doesn't require performance bonds. Well, if we're now defining the waterfront renewal as a private development, someone owes the city and state the dollars they gave out for public/private projects. Better not even go back there. Just draw up those performance contingencies now -- and make sure they contain provisions for when lots of land have to be developed and if development is not feasible by then, a reasonable substitute; i.e. park, etc. Having empty lots with ocean views isn't doing any of us any good. When we first started this century's waterfront plan, the government said timetables would be attached to all projects, with the property reverting to the city if they weren't met. What happened? This isn't just a matter of aesthetics, we're losing ratables at an alarming rate. Maureen --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like their plan was doomed from the start. 84 designs, reaching for the stars for the buyer demo, costly marketing , plus the high price to pay partners. Not sure how they will do it, they have a ton of costs to make up and they can't build it too cheap. Time will tell - Original Message From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 1:43:01 PM Subject: [AsburyPark] NYT July 13, 2008 In the Region | New Jersey Deferred Hopes and Stalled Projects By ANTOINETTE MARTIN WHEN word came last December that work had stopped at the Esperanza, the centerpiece of Asbury Park's long-awaited beachside redevelopment, even the project's name hope in Spanish seemed to mock the city's aspirations. I know a lot of people were very much stunned, and upset, said Dean Geibel, the principal of Metro Homes, the developer of the double-tower condominium, for which only the foundation has been completed. The Esperanza was starting to rise on the site of a previous failure, where a steel skeleton had stood for two decades, menacing prospects for revitalization. And we were sort of the first big project in New Jersey to take a hit when the financial market turned sour, Mr. Geibel said. Since then, destructive market forces have slowed progress on other large projects around the state. Work has sputtered to a stop at two of them the $1.5 billion Centuria development at the foot of the George Washington Bridge in Fort Lee, and the $66 million Town Center development in Somerville before foundations have even been laid. These large projects are facing trouble, said Andrew J. Merin, a broker who is currently marketing the rights to build Centuria, because financing is almost impossible today. Mr. Merin, a vice chairman of Cushman Wakefield who is based in East Rutherford, said banks had all but ceased making construction loans for projects costing more than $50 million. And investors are holding back, looking for the rich returns that mixed-use real estate projects do not currently guarantee. Mr. Merin said a number of developers were bidding to develop some portion of Centuria. But Fort Lee officials have their hearts set on a redevelopment plan that requires one master developer to produce about 500 rental apartments, more than 150,000 square feet of retail space, an office building and a hotel. The current developer, the Town and Country Corporation of Manhattan, bought the 16-acre Centuria site from the Helmsley Organization in 2003, and then laid out millions of dollars to clean up contaminated soil, Mr. Merin said. By the time the site preparation was finished, the financing situation had turned grim. Also in 2003, Edgewood Properties bought its Somerville project site, a run-down strip mall that was to be demolished. The project, which envisions 272 apartments, retail shops and office space, became mired in delays because of a lawsuit brought by the Pathmark grocery chain, which operated a store in the strip mall. Now, the project is on hold, until the market improves, according to the developer and city officials. Meanwhile, in Asbury Park, Mr. Geibel is working feverishly on a scaled-down plan and on securing reduced financing with the goal of beginning work afresh by the end of the year. This summer, city redevelopment officials worked out a new agreement with the builder, acknowledging that a redesign of Esperanza would take into account current economic and market
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
Color has everything to do with how things are perceived and
marketed. A black building gives a different feeling than a white
building. You mis-understood what I ment by quality, i was refering
to architectural quality, although the building materials are
questionable also.
No cheap building materials appear to have been used.
Isnt it obvious?, one end is orange, the middle is cream snd the
other end is yellow. I wasnt comparing it to the convention center,
its a building unto itself whose parts are mismatched. Cartoon
architecture. My understanding is that it had nothing to do with
HoJo (the design), but you are getting to the point, the whole
building matched originally, orange brick, details, etc.
I don't have your original quote in front of me, but I thought you
commented how the 5th ave pavilion looked out of place next to the CH??? The
point I was making is, weather it be the newly remodeled 5th ave or the old
one, both didn't match or go with the Ch to it's north. Different stylings
totally, nothing in comparison expect the orange color of the bricks and the
few HOjo details.
Not a classy building? WoW you must not get out often {a joke}. Ive
been to a lot of places and never seen anything like that. It is
soo cool and unique, but now looks nothing like when it was designed
and built. Have you ever been to Wildwood, NJ? They really take care
of their 50s and 60s, buildings. Here they all got ruined, the
Empress is another example, I'm wondering why.
I don't consider the 5th ave pavilion to be classy in the same way that I
would consider the CH is what I ment... A building that is cool I don't th ink
i'd classify as being classy. I think the 5th is a very good building though.
The Empress was remodeled a few years ago by the current owners. Nothing
to do ith the development plan of AP. They did a lot of work, but i'll agree
that I think it lost some of it's style during the renovation. I don't
remember the details, but I think they had a timeline to get the work done by,
or else their ownership would be questioned. Maybe someone else remembers more
details on what happened there.
Welcome to the group!
Charlie
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
I never implied that the pavilion and the center were matched or should be matched. But your question is 'how did it fit before it was remodeled'. Well its unique to Asbury. Architecture goes through phases and certain buildings from the 50s/60s are recognized as worth saving. Its a record of the life of the town and in a larger picture a record of civilization. I agree with that. Nothing is the same, and if it was, it would appear fake. You think everything should be plowed down or remodeled just because it can be ? No, not at all. I liked a lot of the old pavilions before they were worked on. However, parts of their design I didn't like. Some of them could have been edited to open them up more while keeping their already existing design. Making the pavilions more open to ocean ave was a good idea in my opinion. Before, all the pavilions had back doors facing ocean ave. Picture driving behind a strip mall, seeing all the back singel doors to each business. That is what ocean ave was like before. It's nice the way it is now. I just want to see some good stuff come into them!!
Re: [AsburyPark] Carousels Make A Comeback
Excellent! I shoot for a tall Ferris Wheel first. It can be seen up and down the coast and inland if tall enough and lighted appropriately. A nice touch would be to name each of the Ferris cars after a benny towns all over the state -- just as the old Palace Ferris Wheel did. SighAnd I could reach out and almost touch it from my 213 Lake Av apt. -- back in the day. In a message dated 7/13/2008 7:26:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello? MM? Asbury Partners? _http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/13/sunday/main4256564.shtml_ (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/13/sunday/main4256564.shtml) **Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus0005000112)
[AsburyPark] Deja Vu: Delayed Construction
It's deja vu all over again. -- Yogi Berra Inability to finance the project has delayed construction and is doing what critics who had complained about the tower's size could not: reduce its height by about a third. July 12, 2008 Developer Cuts Back on Plans for Tower to House Baseball's Cable Network By CHARLES V. BAGLI http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/b/charles_v_\ bagli/index.html?inline=nyt-per A 21-story office building planned in East Harlem for Major League Baseball is shrinking. The tower's developer, Vornado Realty Trust, had planned to begin construction in April on what would be the home for professional baseball's newly created cable network, which is scheduled to make its debut in January with 50 million subscribers. But, according to real estate executives and city officials, Vornado's inability to finance the $435 million project, known as Harlem Park, has delayed construction and is doing what critics who had complained about the tower's size could not: reduce its height by about a third. That is in part because the developer seems to have had problems signing up other tenants for the building. Vornado is now considering a revised plan for a 14-story building at 125th Street and Park Avenue and renegotiating its lease with Major League Baseball, the executives and officials said. The developer did not return calls requesting comment, and officials at Major League Baseball said they were too busy organizing the festivities surrounding the All-Star Game to be held on Tuesday at Yankee Stadium to look at the newly proposed lease. It is the latest example of the difficulty developers have had in trying to borrow money for projects amid the national debt crisis, even projects that only a few months ago seemed to be on the fast track. More http://tinyurl.com/6anq98 http://tinyurl.com/6anq98
[AsburyPark] Live Nation is Cautious Mr. Bongiovanni: Everybody's Nervous
Live Nation and Mr. Bongiovanni comment: Pop Tours Still Sell, Despite Economy July 12 For the music industry these days, flat is good. Despite inflation, rising gasoline prices and the continuing slide of record sales, concert tours from January to June grossed $1.05 billion in North America, the same as the midyear gross in 2007, according to a report this week by Pollstar, a trade magazine. Bon Jovi topped the list with a gross of $56.3 million, followed by Bruce Springsteen http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/s/bruce_spri\ ngsteen/index.html?inline=nyt-per , with $40.8 million, and Van Halen http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/v/van\ _halen/index.html?inline=nyt-org , with $36.8 million. But with grim economic forecasts, many in the industry are bracing for a sharp downturn for the rest of the summer and the fall. Everybody's nervous, said Gary Bongiovanni, the editor of Pollstar. If you look at the parade of bad economic news we've seen in the first six months of the year, we're doing better than we should be. When is the bottom going to drop? Because tickets for the most popular tours are often bought months in advance, sales for recent shows may not reflect the jump in fuel prices over the last couple of months. The true test, according to concert promoters, booking agents and others, will be over the next few months, as consumers decide whether to buy tickets for the fall. There's been a delayed effect, said Randy Phillips, the chief executive of AEG Live, the second-largest promoter (after Live Nation). Most of these shows went on public sale in February, March and April, and it wasn't as dire as it got right after that. Not everyone in the industry is so worried. Live Nation is doing strong business on some of its most important tours, More http://tinyurl.com/6lv5f4 http://tinyurl.com/6lv5f4
[AsburyPark] Traffic Circulation and parking ...again
This past Saturday should leave no doubts regarding the validity of my criticisms of the traffic circulation and parking design in the beachfront. It was total grid lock. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll second that, it looked to me what Ive heard about in the media did not get done. I thought Asbury was rebuilt over the last years. Looks like a long wasy to go. - first off another great weekend in AP. I am not quite sure to what you are agreeing to in my previous post? The first time I visited AP was about 14 months ago and I think the city has made significant progress since my first visit. as far as the boardwalk looking cheapI am also in disagreement, of course this is very subjective. (keep in mind that it is not finished yet). If you look at where we could or should be now based on expectaions from 2001 you could drive yourself crazyuse 1/08 or even today as your frame of reference and move forward from herefuture looks good in my opinion, why dwell on the past and be negative? i think the bottom line is that a safe, clean and interesting boardwalk, beach and city with lots of great businesses, people, music and entertainment is going to be the deciding factor on the success of the city not whether or not there is 1 or 3 colors on a building. Just my opinion. John Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, charlie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Empress was remodeled a few years ago by the current owners. Nothing to do ith the development plan of AP. They did a lot of work, but i'll agree that I think it lost some of it's style during the renovation. I don't remember the details, but I think they had a timeline to get the work done by, or else their ownership would be questioned. Maybe someone else remembers more details on what happened there. === The Empress remodeling was started before the redevelopment deal. The stucco on the West side came first. Then the redevelopment plan required approvals for the East side. The TRC and Planning board wanted it restored to a look more in keeping with its original design. Those terms were not complied with. Now the building is another classic 60s icon badly remodeled with a stucco overcoat. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hi - Questions
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, nobepeymay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i think the bottom line is that a safe, clean and interesting boardwalk, beach and city with lots of great businesses, people, music and entertainment is going to be the deciding factor on the success of the city not whether or not there is 1 or 3 colors on a building. Just my opinion. John, I'm certain that in your business the issues of presentation or packaging come into play. Shape of jars, colors of labels etc. The same applies to buildings and architectural identity. That's what differentiates the simply good or acceptable from the really great and forward looking. At issue is, could the 5th Avenue Pavilion have been better designed esthetically with no additional cost. Clearly the answer is yes, We have lost a significant architectural icon due to the choices made and allowed. The terms of the Dispute Resolution Agreement and the specifics of the Redevelopment Plan were violated. There appear to be no consequences, that is what's problematic. Werner PS: Please don't fall for the Its OK because we are moving forward argument. Details of what the Public was promised are significant. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
