[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye
Just letting people pay for parking when it's free is complete BS. Werner, don't you get the point that one of the issues that AP is constantly dealing with is decades of bad PR about the city? So, you get people coming here for a concert or dinner, they mistakenly pay to park, and when they find out it was actually free, they will then complain to their friends about the ridiculous parking situation in our city. Bottom line, city is once again dropping the ball by not properly informing the public. Letting people pay is ripping them off. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: Telling people not to feed the meters certainly doesn't help, just let them do it. Werner I normally don't say a word. But it wasn't working. I even TRIED to HELP him put the money in. I didn't feel that generous do spend $1 on the credit card. It was beeping away. Let me know where to send the $1 to. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: Just letting people pay for parking when it's free is complete BS. Werner, don't you get the point that one of the issues that AP is constantly dealing with is decades of bad PR about the city? So, you get people coming here for a concert or dinner, they mistakenly pay to park, and when they find out it was actually free, they will then complain to their friends about the ridiculous parking situation in our city. Bottom line, city is once again dropping the ball by not properly informing the public. Letting people pay is ripping them off. = WADR - Don't you get that the City needs every dime it can find? Should the city refund all the parking fees it collected for decades from the old mechanical meters that were not in official operation ? There has been free parking since the 80s yet people bought peace of mind by putting a quarter in the slot. The City was happy to collect 100s of thousands in revenue during that time. There has been much discussion about a 50 cent an hour fee not being a big deal when a night out can cost $50 +++. Complaints should be directed to our policy makers. The initial proposal was to suspend enforcement so as not to aggravate people with summonses and fines. Nw that was a good idea until the bugs were worked out. Somehow that morphed into Lets Advertise Free Parking. Implementation of which has been ridiculous as you noted. That much we can agree on. However, let visitors buy some peace of mind for 50 cents. I stress again that people need to shift their thinking to what is in the best interests of the City given there is a deficit of $13+ Million in spite of almost 10 years of (cough, cough) Redevelopment. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye
Yes, the city needs every dime it can find. But taking those dimes at the risk of perpetuating our bad reputation isn't worth it in my opinion. Either parking is free, or it isn't, and it's the cities responsibility to publicize it, and it's done a horrible job doing so. I'm sorry, but there's no defense for taking peoples money when they are unaware that parking is free. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Just letting people pay for parking when it's free is complete BS. Werner, don't you get the point that one of the issues that AP is constantly dealing with is decades of bad PR about the city? So, you get people coming here for a concert or dinner, they mistakenly pay to park, and when they find out it was actually free, they will then complain to their friends about the ridiculous parking situation in our city. Bottom line, city is once again dropping the ball by not properly informing the public. Letting people pay is ripping them off. = WADR - Don't you get that the City needs every dime it can find? Should the city refund all the parking fees it collected for decades from the old mechanical meters that were not in official operation ? There has been free parking since the 80s yet people bought peace of mind by putting a quarter in the slot. The City was happy to collect 100s of thousands in revenue during that time. There has been much discussion about a 50 cent an hour fee not being a big deal when a night out can cost $50 +++. Complaints should be directed to our policy makers. The initial proposal was to suspend enforcement so as not to aggravate people with summonses and fines. Nw that was a good idea until the bugs were worked out. Somehow that morphed into Lets Advertise Free Parking. Implementation of which has been ridiculous as you noted. That much we can agree on. However, let visitors buy some peace of mind for 50 cents. I stress again that people need to shift their thinking to what is in the best interests of the City given there is a deficit of $13+ Million in spite of almost 10 years of (cough, cough) Redevelopment. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Council appointment recommendations...
I recommend they appoint Tom Deseno... what say you? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: Yes, the city needs every dime it can find. But taking those dimes at the risk of perpetuating our bad reputation isn't worth it in my opinion. Either parking is free, or it isn't, and it's the cities responsibility to publicize it, and it's done a horrible job doing so. I'm sorry, but there's no defense for taking peoples money when they are unaware that parking is free. == Speaking to the point of how the City could have properly and easily made the policy of Free Parking clear... Make fabric bags that completely cover the pay stations, Clearly printed on both sides - Free Parking - Thanks for Visiting. Simple, clear, reusable - The machine is inaccessible, cant pay even if you want to. and we say Thank You too. Incredible that a paid staff of professionals could not figure that out. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye
Exactly! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Yes, the city needs every dime it can find. But taking those dimes at the risk of perpetuating our bad reputation isn't worth it in my opinion. Either parking is free, or it isn't, and it's the cities responsibility to publicize it, and it's done a horrible job doing so. I'm sorry, but there's no defense for taking peoples money when they are unaware that parking is free. == Speaking to the point of how the City could have properly and easily made the policy of Free Parking clear... Make fabric bags that completely cover the pay stations, Clearly printed on both sides - Free Parking - Thanks for Visiting. Simple, clear, reusable - The machine is inaccessible, cant pay even if you want to. and we say Thank You too. Incredible that a paid staff of professionals could not figure that out. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Oak's Ad
Being that your websites are starting to grow you may want to consider taking off my hands www.thejerseyshore.com www.asburyparknj.com - make me an offer. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedri...@... wrote: Oak on my website, one of the Google Ads that was generated was a click to your website, AsburyBoardwalk.com. How much do you pay for that? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: Werner, It was nice to meet you last week. I wondered if anyone noticed that new part on your tax bill that shows what the state is paying on your behalf as a homeowner in Asbury. How is the town ever going to generate the 45+ million (this is my calculation so not sure if it is correct) for schooling that is carried by the state every year. The deficit is so large it would seem to be insurmountable. Does anyone have any knowledge on the topic and when the Asbury revaluation is coming if it hasn't already? Dan S. === Likewise, sorry we couldn't chat more as I was awaiting my date with Judge Apostolou, Bill Gray, et al. The single most significant issue facing Asbury Park is economics. All the nice stuff, fun stuff, things to to, its better than it was, etc... means nothing if the City can not support itself due to dysfunctional redevelopment policies. Everyone should be sharpening their pencils Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Due Process
Last friday I appeared in court on the 19 summonses I've been issued. I can not afford a lawyer since the proceedings against me have wiped out all my available money. The Court refuses to assign a public defender stating that I should sell my home and hire a lawyer. I was told that Your on your own and will be going to trial without legal representation. In fact, a special Werner Day is gong to be scheduled where no other business is before the court. Its my understanding that when faced with a consequence of magnitude one has to be represented by counsel. 'They' obviously have other ideas. I think 14.5 years in jail and a $38K fine is of consequence. I send this out in the hope that someplace, somewhere there is a competent attorney or that someone reading this knows of one that can help me. I've been through 3 attorneys in the past 2 years, each one more useless than the previous. Any leads would be appreciated. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: A black eye
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: City was happy to collect 100s of thousands in revenue during that time. Not really. There weren't that many people coming to pay. Actually none. I was on the BW then. It was me and the pigeons. What little money went into the meters was stolen one way or the other. Pay to park 7 days a week, 365 days year. MM can still open their free lots (free for now) people will pay. The food isn't free and neither are the drinks. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Citizen Service Act
Passing along some info from the Lauren at the Center for Civic Responsibility. Happy New Year! We have big news for Monmouth County. At last night's County Reorganization meeting, Freeholder Director Barbara McMorrow announced her plans to roll out our Call to Service for Monmouth County. This includes: 1) Citizen Service Act - which creates a public web hard copy directory of all county boards/commissions and sets up a standard application process. Folks will now know what positions vacancies exist, and how to apply. 2) Citizen Service Day resolution - which will establish one day a year to celebrate MC's exemplary residents who serve their communities. 3) Leadership Forums - to be held throughout the County, which will teach people how to effectively get involved in creating change within their communities. This is fantastic because Freeholder McMorrow, and presumptively Monmouth County's example will likely lead municipalities to launch their own Calls to Service. I am asking that you check your schedule for 2 upcoming dates. We need to provide the Freeholders with the support they need to get this done. And to show them that the citizenry wants to see a Call to Service in Monmouth County. We were able to move Pay-to-Play Reform this way. And while this initiative does not warrant the same time and resource commitment to get done, we still need to give a show of support. Please consider joining me in attending this Thursday's 2pm Freeholder workshop meeting at the Hall of Records (2nd floor, Meeting Rm) in Freehold. Freeholder McMorrow plans to introduce the Call to Service package at this meeting. We will then need to show the same, or more support at Thurs 1/22's regular Freeholder meeting (7pm Hall of Records, 2nd floor, Meeting Rm, Freehold) where the package will presumptively be adopted - if all goes well! Let me know if you are available to come to the meetings. And spread the word. This is something important to the citizens of Monmouth County, and we can prove so by showing up! lau...@jointhecampaign.com Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes and Meters
Werner, Thanks for providing me with Bill Grant's name. There are 1200 spots on the street and approx 580 in the lots paved over by MM. I will be doing a real world, real assumptions set of analysis to determine how much those meters could generate in a given year and what that could generate in revenues or upfront investment. I've been lazy last few weeks enjoying time with the kids and now busy at work but i will have it done shortly. I will also provide a spreadsheet so all my math can be checked :) --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: Werner, It was nice to meet you last week. I wondered if anyone noticed that new part on your tax bill that shows what the state is paying on your behalf as a homeowner in Asbury. How is the town ever going to generate the 45+ million (this is my calculation so not sure if it is correct) for schooling that is carried by the state every year. The deficit is so large it would seem to be insurmountable. Does anyone have any knowledge on the topic and when the Asbury revaluation is coming if it hasn't already? Dan S. === Likewise, sorry we couldn't chat more as I was awaiting my date with Judge Apostolou, Bill Gray, et al. The single most significant issue facing Asbury Park is economics. All the nice stuff, fun stuff, things to to, its better than it was, etc... means nothing if the City can not support itself due to dysfunctional redevelopment policies. Everyone should be sharpening their pencils Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Hot Gay Beach
I don't pick the ads that go on my website. Google puts them up there. So I went on my website today, and I am advertising the Hot Gay Beach in Asbury Park. I'm not asking because I intend upon going, but I wasn't aware Asbury Park has a Hot Gay Beach. Is there one? Should there be one? I did a column a few years back saying Gays should not be segregated nor segregate themselves on a beach. I received a good deal of support from the Gay Community in AP. Wondering about your feelings on the ad and the idea. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Closing time for a rock theme park
This is not intended to tweak anyone but i thought this was interesting that this music themed park failed. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123128760224559189.html? mod=googlenews_wsj Hard Rock Park, a 140-acre theme park in Myrtle Beach, S.C., opened with great fanfare last April, hoping to lure tourists with a penchant for roller coasters and Led Zeppelin. Now, though, despite four years in development and two years in construction, the attraction is unplugging just nine months after opening. Yesterday, a Delaware bankruptcy judge approved the company's request to begin liquidating what was billed as the world's first rock 'n' roll theme park and the single-largest tourism investment in South Carolina history. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Closing time for a rock theme park
B section of the January 7, 2009 Wall street journal for those who are interested --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: This is not intended to tweak anyone but i thought this was interesting that this music themed park failed. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123128760224559189.html? mod=googlenews_wsj Hard Rock Park, a 140-acre theme park in Myrtle Beach, S.C., opened with great fanfare last April, hoping to lure tourists with a penchant for roller coasters and Led Zeppelin. Now, though, despite four years in development and two years in construction, the attraction is unplugging just nine months after opening. Yesterday, a Delaware bankruptcy judge approved the company's request to begin liquidating what was billed as the world's first rock 'n' roll theme park and the single-largest tourism investment in South Carolina history. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes and Meters
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: Werner, Thanks for providing me with Bill Grant's name. There are 1200 spots on the street and approx 580 in the lots paved over by MM. I will be doing a real world, real assumptions set of analysis to determine how much those meters could generate in a given year and what that could generate in revenues or upfront investment. I've been lazy last few weeks enjoying time with the kids and now busy at work but i will have it done shortly. I will also provide a spreadsheet so all my math can be checked :) === Ahh - that would be Brian Grant :-) I think there are more than 1200, I recall seeing numbered spaces in the 1400s and there are 100s of un-numbered spaces in addition. I'll take a look next time I get out. As it stands, in the absence of the 3000+ tax paying condos we are supposed to have, the only sources of revenue to the city are parking fees, beach access fees, event permit fees, and mercantile license fees. On top of the current tax ratable base. Are these items line itemed in that budget that was circulated? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [AsburyPark] Council appointment recommendations...
He doesn't live in AP! From: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com [mailto:asburyp...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Brown Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:44 AM To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Council appointment recommendations... I recommend they appoint Tom Deseno... what say you? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Closing time for a rock theme park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: B section of the January 7, 2009 Wall street journal for those who are interested where's my confederate flag Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes and Meters
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: add a liquor tax of 2.5% Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hot Gay Beach
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedri...@... wrote: I don't pick the ads that go on my website. Google puts them up there. So I went on my website today, and I am advertising the Hot Gay Beach in Asbury Park. Then why did they block the Road Trip party on 5th ave beach from the general public view Like it's ok to have this gay event on the beach - but we might offend people - alot of people. Or make those that are wondering what the heck is going on stand on benches to peak over the blue wall... menanwhile you can wind up on a nude beach in sandy hook and not pay attention to warning signs... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes and Meters
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernerapnj@ wrote: add a liquor tax of 2.5% What ar you saying? There should be a tax? or There is a tax that the city collects? Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hot Gay Beach
The ad is from a website called Philly to Asbury run by to guys from Conover Agency to sell Real Estate. Congrats to them. It's a good ad seeking a certain buyer. Pretty smart. As for whether there is a Gay Beach - let's call it sales puffery. I hope they do well with the ad. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, justifiedright justifiedright@ wrote: I don't pick the ads that go on my website. Google puts them up there. So I went on my website today, and I am advertising the Hot Gay Beach in Asbury Park. Then why did they block the Road Trip party on 5th ave beach from the general public view Like it's ok to have this gay event on the beach - but we might offend people - alot of people. Or make those that are wondering what the heck is going on stand on benches to peak over the blue wall... menanwhile you can wind up on a nude beach in sandy hook and not pay attention to warning signs... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Citizen Service Act
New Dates OK, I just got a call from Susan at the Freeholder's office, and it looks like with all of the commotion of the reorg meeting last night, they didn't get the Call to Service documents into the Freeholders' packets. So it is being pushed back 2 weeks. Nothing will be happening this Thursday. Instead: Call to Service introduction: Thurs 1/22 @ 2pm, Hall of Records, 2nd floor Call to Service adoption: Thurs 2/12 @ 7pm, Hall of Records, 2nd floor Let me know if these dates/times work for you. Cheers, Lauren -- Lauren Skowronski State Campaign Director Citizens' Campaign 450 Main Street, 2nd floor Metuchen, NJ 08840 P: 732.548.9798 x2 F: 732.548.9298 www.jointhecampaign.com Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has. - M. Mead --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: Passing along some info from the Lauren at the Center for Civic Responsibility. Happy New Year! We have big news for Monmouth County. At last night's County Reorganization meeting, Freeholder Director Barbara McMorrow announced her plans to roll out our Call to Service for Monmouth County. This includes: 1) Citizen Service Act - which creates a public web hard copy directory of all county boards/commissions and sets up a standard application process. Folks will now know what positions vacancies exist, and how to apply. 2) Citizen Service Day resolution - which will establish one day a year to celebrate MC's exemplary residents who serve their communities. 3) Leadership Forums - to be held throughout the County, which will teach people how to effectively get involved in creating change within their communities. This is fantastic because Freeholder McMorrow, and presumptively Monmouth County's example will likely lead municipalities to launch their own Calls to Service. I am asking that you check your schedule for 2 upcoming dates. We need to provide the Freeholders with the support they need to get this done. And to show them that the citizenry wants to see a Call to Service in Monmouth County. We were able to move Pay-to-Play Reform this way. And while this initiative does not warrant the same time and resource commitment to get done, we still need to give a show of support. Please consider joining me in attending this Thursday's 2pm Freeholder workshop meeting at the Hall of Records (2nd floor, Meeting Rm) in Freehold. Freeholder McMorrow plans to introduce the Call to Service package at this meeting. We will then need to show the same, or more support at Thurs 1/22's regular Freeholder meeting (7pm Hall of Records, 2nd floor, Meeting Rm, Freehold) where the package will presumptively be adopted - if all goes well! Let me know if you are available to come to the meetings. And spread the word. This is something important to the citizens of Monmouth County, and we can prove so by showing up! lau...@... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hot Gay Beach
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: Then why did they block the Road Trip party on 5th ave beach from the general public view Like it's ok to have this gay event on the beach - but we might offend people - alot of people. Or make those that are wondering what the heck is going on stand on benches to peak over the blue wall... I didn't get the feeling that the blocking had anything to do with it being a primarily gay event. I thought it was an attempt to get people to pay to get in. If it was in fear of offending, lord help them and the potential offendees. I always considered 5th ave the gay beach, and I mean that as merely a description of a beach where a lot of the gay community hung out. But 5th ave seemed pretty family full this summer. I sorta sense a watering down of the fun, sexy gay vibe in AP. That would be sad. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hot Gay Beach
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: I sorta sense a watering down of the fun, sexy gay vibe in AP. That would be sad. I took it, as did many other, as a shield to block the view of speedo beach. If you want people to come in, let them see the fun and then pay to come in. Maybe I'm wrong. As for the hot gay beach Rule# 1 - Attention Getting Headline And Google lets the publisher block an add if it's offensive or competes with the publishers site or ads... so I block it ): Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Public Defender
Werner, The Office of the Public Defender is for people facing criminal charges who cannot afford legal representation. If you feel you fit in that definition then call them (732) 308-4320. You can also try Monmouth Ocean Legal Services 908-776-7733. Legal Aid sometimes has sliding scale fees for people who have assets. Good luck Jennifer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Taxes and Meters
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: Werner, Thanks for providing me with Bill Grant's name. There are 1200 spots on the street and approx 580 in the lots paved over by MM. I will be doing a real world, real assumptions set of analysis to determine how much those meters could generate in a given year and what that could generate in revenues or upfront investment. I've been lazy last few weeks enjoying time with the kids and now busy at work but i will have it done shortly. I will also provide a spreadsheet so all my math can be checked :) Does the 1,200 spaces exclude the free handicap spaces? It would be nice if we had some statistics from the short period of parking revenues generated this summer. Because you have to estimate the average revenue per space per day. That of course depends upon the hours of operation, the likely length used on average, how many days at that rate and the turnover. There are some rules of thumb in parking operations depending upon the market. A lot of the assumptions (use depending upon season, turnover, etc.) could be reflected in historical average revenue but the operating history s too small to give a reasonable estimate. But I think we raked in $55K for a few weeks. That was with free parking in MM lots. I think you have operation of 19 hours from 9 am-2 am. At 100% utilization and at $.50/ hour that's $9.50/day per meter. That of course does not count for turnover when someone paid for more time but doesn't use it (the beauty of the central system - there are others that zero out the time when the car pulls out). But it also assumes 100% utilization. Take a conservative figure of $5 per meter per day. That's $6k/day for all 1,200 (if that is the number). So let's talk about just the summer for a moment. Figure 8 weeks at 7 days at that rate = $336,000. I think Oak and I lowballed it way back at least at $500K per year. There is a lot of revenue to be made from parking. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Closing time for a rock theme park
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: This is not intended to tweak anyone but i thought this was interesting that this music themed park failed. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123128760224559189.html? mod=googlenews_wsj Hard Rock Park, a 140-acre theme park in Myrtle Beach, S.C., opened with great fanfare last April, hoping to lure tourists with a penchant for roller coasters and Led Zeppelin. Now, though, despite four years in development and two years in construction, the attraction is unplugging just nine months after opening. Yesterday, a Delaware bankruptcy judge approved the company's request to begin liquidating what was billed as the world's first rock 'n' roll theme park and the single-largest tourism investment in South Carolina history. So that this morning an was thinking of posting too. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Closing time for a rock theme park
--- No, ultimately, arrogance did in the Hard Rock Park, long before the park even opened. Park managers' refusal to advertise, to work with local hotels on promotion, to package and price the park aggressively -- all these failures to work with others left the park empty and its balance sheet a mess. see: http://www.themeparkinsider.com/flume/200812/994/ ...The $400 million, 55-acre park opened in April and was the biggest single investment ever in South Carolina tourism. The company filed for Chapter 11 protection in September and had planned to reopen this year. The park went up for auction last month, but no bidder who could pay at least $35 million emerged Eventually someone will come along and acquire it - nearly debt free and at least the grounds set to go. Easy to spend when it's not your money. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Hot Gay Beach
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: I took it, as did many other, as a shield to block the view of speedo beach. that can't be it. ive seen cheezy gogo dancers on the bb stage with a bunch of middle aged men looking like they didn't have enough fun in their youth. I'd like, way prefer my kids see men in speedos getting their groove on than candidates for viagra ogling go go dancers. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Flixster ???
Anyone else here getting invitations from flixster using name(s) from this group? I was suspicious, did a quick check, and I think it's one of those sites that commandeers a person's address book and sends viral emails. I block all such domains, but I've noticed an up tick in new ones lately. **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Flixster ???
SPAM! On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:39 PM, marioa...@aol.com wrote: Anyone else here getting invitations from flixster using name(s) from this group? I was suspicious, did a quick check, and I think it's one of those sites that commandeers a person's address book and sends viral emails. I block all such domains, but I've noticed an up tick in new ones lately. **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Flixster ???
John, I believe that you are correct, I am getting the same e-mails - probably from the same person. I will call that person at a reasonable hour tomorrow and alert them. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jersey Shore John jerseyshorej...@... wrote: SPAM! On Jan 7, 2009, at 8:39 PM, marioa...@... wrote: Anyone else here getting invitations from flixster using name(s) from this group? I was suspicious, did a quick check, and I think it's one of those sites that commandeers a person's address book and sends viral emails. I block all such domains, but I've noticed an up tick in new ones lately. **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Closing time for a rock theme park
The big difference is that Asbury Park could really do something with music history (or New Jersey music history) while South Carolina was trying to do something for Led Zeppelin fans... odd, considering that's a band from Britain. dsher4 wrote: This is not intended to tweak anyone but i thought this was interesting that this music themed park failed. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123128760224559189.html? http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123128760224559189.html? mod=googlenews_wsj Hard Rock Park, a 140-acre theme park in Myrtle Beach, S.C., opened with great fanfare last April, hoping to lure tourists with a penchant for roller coasters and Led Zeppelin. Now, though, despite four years in development and two years in construction, the attraction is unplugging just nine months after opening. Yesterday, a Delaware bankruptcy judge approved the company's request to begin liquidating what was billed as the world's first rock 'n' roll theme park and the single-largest tourism investment in South Carolina history. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Hot Gay Beach
No beach in Asbury Park is exclusively gay. At one point in our citys rebirth the 5th Avenue beach by Convention Hall was predominately gay. Over the past two years that beach has become more and more of a mixed crowd. Families, straights and gays. As an avid beach goer in Asbury Park I observed this past summer that all the beaches were of a mixed crowd. It just happens that 5th Ave is where a good number of gays congregate, make no mistake, no beach in Asbury Park is specified a gay beach. Garrett Giberson Jr **New year...new news. Be the first to know what is making headlines. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom0026) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
