[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote: Putting on my counseling hat here. Reality is always subject to perception. Reality being the way things actually exist is always influenced by individual perception. Perception being a sensory experience of the world around us. Perception is based on individual experience. We can be in the same reality without the same perception of that existence. It makes human beings very interesting. Sooo...Everyone is entitled to their perceptions. The reality is the economy sucks and how you perceive the depth of that depends on individual experience. AKA - A recession is when your neighbor is out of work, a depression is when you're out of work. BTW, I remain perplexed by Newbee. S/he knows a lot of minutia for a visitor who came, had a great time, but wondered when the boardwalk would be finished. Newbee, if you really live here and care then just post. Your perceptions are much more valid when honestly put forth. Otherwise, I just find myself pondering who you really are. = Putting on my engineering hat here. You make a critical mistake in your analysis, perhaps you know and just phrased it poorly. Reality is not subject to perception - nor is it influenced by perception - Reality is Reality. Certainly experience and knowledge color how one perceives a given reality. Take the question of whether the redevelopment is a success or not. The less one knows about it the more positive the opinion based upon cursory observations. Sensory inputs tip the scale. The more one knows about it the more negative the opinion based upon the facts and figures involved. Critical analysis tips the scale. Its not unreasonable for someone to visit, have a good time, do some research and conclude that things are seriously amiss. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
I have to respectfully disagree with your assertion. Any given individuals perception is their reality. No one can state something as reality without it being skewed by their perception. So I guess you can say my reality is that perception is reality. Sent via BlackBerry Bold -Original Message- From: wernerapnj wernera...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:53:45 To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jennifer jennifern...@... wrote: Putting on my counseling hat here. Reality is always subject to perception. Reality being the way things actually exist is always influenced by individual perception. Perception being a sensory experience of the world around us. Perception is based on individual experience. We can be in the same reality without the same perception of that existence. It makes human beings very interesting. Sooo...Everyone is entitled to their perceptions. The reality is the economy sucks and how you perceive the depth of that depends on individual experience. AKA - A recession is when your neighbor is out of work, a depression is when you're out of work. BTW, I remain perplexed by Newbee. S/he knows a lot of minutia for a visitor who came, had a great time, but wondered when the boardwalk would be finished. Newbee, if you really live here and care then just post. Your perceptions are much more valid when honestly put forth. Otherwise, I just find myself pondering who you really are. = Putting on my engineering hat here. You make a critical mistake in your analysis, perhaps you know and just phrased it poorly. Reality is not subject to perception - nor is it influenced by perception - Reality is Reality. Certainly experience and knowledge color how one perceives a given reality. Take the question of whether the redevelopment is a success or not. The less one knows about it the more positive the opinion based upon cursory observations. Sensory inputs tip the scale. The more one knows about it the more negative the opinion based upon the facts and figures involved. Critical analysis tips the scale. Its not unreasonable for someone to visit, have a good time, do some research and conclude that things are seriously amiss. Werner [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jaede...@... wrote: I have to respectfully disagree with your assertion. Any given individuals perception is their reality. No one can state something as reality without it being skewed by their perception. So I guess you can say my reality is that perception is reality. Perceptions are just that, perceptions -- not reality in the collective sense An individuals reality perhaps, as in insisting that 2+2+5 in spite of the reality being that 2+2+4 Take Note: b: something that is neither derivative nor dependent but exists necessarily Main Entry: re·al·i·ty Pronunciation: \r#275;-#712;a-l#601;-t#275;\ Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural re·al·i·ties Date: 1550 1: the quality or state of being real 2 a (1): a real event, entity, or state of affairs his dream became a reality (2): the totality of real things and events trying to escape from reality b: something that is neither derivative nor dependent but exists necessarily 3: television programming that features videos of actual occurrences (as a police chase, stunt, or natural disaster) often used attributively reality TV in reality : in actual fact Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: Perceptions are just that, perceptions -- not reality in the collective sense An individuals reality perhaps, as in insisting that 2+2+5 in spite of the reality being that 2+2+4 Oops - sticky key of course that should be =5 and =4 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
re·al·i·ty (r-l-t) n. pl. re·al·i·ties 1. The quality or state of being actual or true. 2. One, such as a person, an entity, or an event, that is actual: the weight of history and political realities Benno C. Schmidt, Jr. 3. The totality of all things possessing actuality, existence, or essence. 4. That which exists objectively and in fact: Your observations do not seem to be about reality. Idiom: in reality In fact; actually. and reality Noun pl -ties 1. the state of things as they are or appear to be, rather than as one might wish them to be 2. something that is real 3. the state of being real 4. in reality in fact Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
Just look at http://www.thefreedictionary.com/reality and http://www.thefreedictionary.com/perception Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj wernera...@... wrote: ..and the real reality is that realty isn't spelled reality. the state of things as they actually exist Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] What would of happened if....
the people on this board (vs folks from NC) were on the plane that went in the Hudson? Guess. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] How come no one
decided to set up large screens in CH or the Paramount for today's event in Washington. Lots of places are doing it. Imagine that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be? Haven't we all learned that you can't just spend money without any thoughts about what the reason is for the spending. The town has no money (12 million deficit) and MM has already spent millions without any payback as of yet. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: decided to set up large screens in CH or the Paramount for today's event in Washington. Lots of places are doing it. Imagine that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be? Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet. No one would come, you're right. He gave a great speech. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
I'm inspired!!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be? Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet. No one would come, you're right. He gave a great speech. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
I agree, great speech I too am inspired Hinge Oak and I at least agree it almost always comes back to economics. I haven't forget about the parking meter stuff, just backlogged a bit at work. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be? Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet. No one would come, you're right. He gave a great speech. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: Good morning newbee, I was wondering where the anonymous malcontent was. Just to let you know I drove through town and by the boardwalk last night and there were LOTS of people enjoying AP. Spending their money eating and drinking and taking up parking spaces and providing work for all sorts of people paying sales sales tax etc. But you wouldn't know that because you don't live here. and again, I'll call you on who you really are. I think mark mentioned it once. You probably aren't new to ap, just a shit stirrer. maybe a failed business owner licking wounds and trying to create misery (unhappy people are good at that). I'll second that Gabrielle! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 44 U.S. Presidents -- Very Cool
Amazing! I was transfixed! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Michael W. Brim mw...@... wrote: 44 U.S. Presidents -- Very Cool VERY INTERESTING HOW THIS IS DONEA SEAMLESS TRANSITION FROM ONE PIC TO ANOTHER. . Click website below and turn up the volume. Forty four presidents, backed=2 0by Ravel's Bolero. http://www.flixxy.com/presidents-morphing.htm http://WWW.flixxy.. Com/presidents- morphing. htm Michael W. Brim 321 Sunset Avenue, Unit 5F Asbury Park NJ 07712-5550 Cell: 732-996-8160 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: I agree, great speech Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway. They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were smart enough to print and sell his images on everything. The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of Obama on it. I know it's the event... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
I can't agree more. I celebration about diversity beginning with a public gathering to watch the inauguration. I'm glad we stopped production here at work to watch it as a group. I also agree about spending like fools, and I'd love to see that ideal spread to the way we manufacture things in the US. I know that's tough because we are a consumer driven society and so many of our products are designed with built in obsolescence. Surely we can figure out a new way... I also hope we've seen an end to the era of the McMansion, but that's going to be a tough one since much of our television programming is aimed at showing us how great celebrities and people with money live compared to the larger population. Shows like Cribs and on and on and on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: I agree, great speech Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway. They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were smart enough to print and sell his images on everything. The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of Obama on it. I know it's the event... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
I can't agree more. A celebration about diversity beginning with a public gathering to watch the inauguration. I'm glad we stopped production here at work to watch it as a group. I also agree about spending like fools, and I'd love to see that ideal spread to the way we manufacture things in the US. I know that's tough because we are a consumer driven society and so many of our products are designed with built in obsolescence. Surely we can figure out a new way... I also hope we've seen an end to the era of the McMansion, but that's going to be a tough one since much of our television programming is aimed at showing us how great celebrities and people with money live compared to the larger population. Shows like Cribs and on and on and on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: I agree, great speech Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway. They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were smart enough to print and sell his images on everything. The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of Obama on it. I know it's the event... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: I also agree about spending like fools Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
It's not about spending for the economy's sake. It's about spending responsibly. Too many of our citizens are over there heads in debt. Too many people bought homes they couldn't afford. I think that's what Oak is talking about. We also need to curb predatory creditors that pray on people's inability to read the fine print and understand what they are getting into. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I also agree about spending like fools Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. How about spending smarter and/or healthier? It's great when it's coming in - if you/your spouse or family have seen no impact or worried about job security- then spend away. But those who live day by day check to check or have other concerns - really have to pay attention to where it goes. The old fashioned way: Column A - what comes in Column B - what goes out and where Eating less is a good way to save your life and money. The portions some places serve and the prices they charge saves your body but empties your wallet. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
You know what was great for me on the eating less issue? Finding out I have high blood pressure. First thing I learned was how to live a low sodium lifestyle. Awesome and healthy. Second thing was I had a really long bout with insomnia, so my dr prescribed Ambien. In order for Ambien to work, you have to take it on an empty stomach, which in general is 3 hours after eating dinner. So, that meant no more before the bed snacking. Now my BP is normal, I'm sleeping like a baby, and I'm losing weight. Love it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. How about spending smarter and/or healthier? It's great when it's coming in - if you/your spouse or family have seen no impact or worried about job security- then spend away. But those who live day by day check to check or have other concerns - really have to pay attention to where it goes. The old fashioned way: Column A - what comes in Column B - what goes out and where Eating less is a good way to save your life and money. The portions some places serve and the prices they charge saves your body but empties your wallet. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: on on the bailout - I have a local bank to do a refi on a handshake deal. But someone asked someone from provident to give me a call. I finally hung up on them Investment property. Oh What's your credit score? Me: mid 6's some days some days less who knows... Oh..so then we add 2 points... Whats the value in TODAYS market me: 250 Provident: amount required me: 181 Provident Oh, that works out to 72% LTV.. we add another 2%... Prov: but you can go with an adjustable over 25 years...then it's only 1/2 point for this and... I hung up. Nice to see the banks making loans for people who pay on time more difficult. If anyone needs a commercial lender, let me know. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
-I am not quibbling on the definition of reality. It is the way that things actually exist. The reason I said I was writing as a counselor is because human beings see reality through perception. That isn't an argument. It simply is something that needs to be seen when dealing with human behavior. Arguing with someone who is optimistic about the same reality that another is pessimistic about is not going to change their view. We all see through the prism of our own perception. It is interesting that your definition included reality TV. Is that truly reality or is it a manipulated reality? A great example of perception's role in reality. I stand by my own perception that Newbee's very strong opinion of local AP centered politics and happenings does not fit his or her self-description. I also personally take the posts of those who put their real name after their perceptions much more seriously than those who do not. Jennifer Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
Thank you so much Jennifer and Jadee for the perception thoughts. Jennifer, your balance and equanimity is an inspiration for me and something I need to learn from. Werner, I am truly sorry for going off on you some weeks ago. I know how valuable your knowledge of Asbury is. Your love is clear. But science does tell us that perception has a lot to do with us. Is it Heisenberg's principle that even suggests that we CHANGE reality with our perceptions? I just listened to a talk by Russel Targ, physicist, CIA trainer and author of a new book called I think the end of suffering. Thats where my passion lies. I used to be so negative about everything (ask my mother). We have to change if we want our world to change. Be negative if you want, but it really only hurts yourself. Jack, you take things way too personally. Life is so much more enjoyable when you don't. Whatever someone says has nothing to do with us. Only egos get offended. No one can touch who you are at essence. Thats freedom. And insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. And complaining is useless. I don't have the time to be as involved as I would like, and I don't have the tolerance for the BS, phoniness, scheming etc. And I don't live in the past, or reminisce about it. I am an optimist and most people would look at my life and wonder how that is possible. I'm 41 about to enter vocational school. There are so many good things happening in the world its amazing. Find a talk on FORA tv by Paul Hawken. So beautiful. And it may sound kooky on this board, but the only reason we are here is to expand in consciousness and love. Yes for our enemies, those who would take us down, etc. Happy Happy inauguration Day! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: - maybe change is needed in AP as well. Someone to figure out AP's decades old fiscal problems and devise a plan that will focus on becoming self funded with such a reliance on the state, fed gov, singers, builders etc.. Story in the APP on how the 600 school districts are going to HAVE to go k-12 or form regional districts. But that will up to the county to decide. So right along the shore you have Bradley, Deal, Belmar etc - all will have to come to grips soon, as will having to pay a fairer sahre of our property taxes. Anyone see that Neptune has introduced an ordinance to charge a 3% hotel tax? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: reality is a woman
My name isn't Gabie Dubie. Maybe I'm wrong, but businesses in AP seem pretty busy, certainly on weekends. Do you drive around here much? Maybe some are hurting, but there are lots of people around considering it is the middle of winter in a harsh economy. I'll tell you what is not reality, a misogynist trader whose life is money. I got to witness those cretins on the floor of NYMEX. Positively devolution in action. But I do love the markets somehow. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Dennis Dubrow traderd...@... wrote: Gabrielle wroteA thriving restaurant/entertainment economy. Just where are you describing there Gabie? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
No, I actually don't take things too personally. I think you are blissfully unaware of how insulting you can be at times. You basically suggested I was insane in a recent post. You told me my perception is wrong. I love Asbury Park and I have a different vision where I wish the city would go and you tell me I'm wrong. Complaining isn't useless when it leads to meaningful discussion, and it breaks down when you interrupt that discussion by projecting thoughts in which you suggest insanity. You refuse to understand that my thoughts about AP come from the fact that I love this place. I subject myself and my car to a 140 mile a day commute because I don't want to live any place else. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: Thank you so much Jennifer and Jadee for the perception thoughts. Jennifer, your balance and equanimity is an inspiration for me and something I need to learn from. Werner, I am truly sorry for going off on you some weeks ago. I know how valuable your knowledge of Asbury is. Your love is clear. But science does tell us that perception has a lot to do with us. Is it Heisenberg's principle that even suggests that we CHANGE reality with our perceptions? I just listened to a talk by Russel Targ, physicist, CIA trainer and author of a new book called I think the end of suffering. Thats where my passion lies. I used to be so negative about everything (ask my mother). We have to change if we want our world to change. Be negative if you want, but it really only hurts yourself. Jack, you take things way too personally. Life is so much more enjoyable when you don't. Whatever someone says has nothing to do with us. Only egos get offended. No one can touch who you are at essence. Thats freedom. And insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. And complaining is useless. I don't have the time to be as involved as I would like, and I don't have the tolerance for the BS, phoniness, scheming etc. And I don't live in the past, or reminisce about it. I am an optimist and most people would look at my life and wonder how that is possible. I'm 41 about to enter vocational school. There are so many good things happening in the world its amazing. Find a talk on FORA tv by Paul Hawken. So beautiful. And it may sound kooky on this board, but the only reason we are here is to expand in consciousness and love. Yes for our enemies, those who would take us down, etc. Happy Happy inauguration Day! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: - maybe change is needed in AP as well. Someone to figure out AP's decades old fiscal problems and devise a plan that will focus on becoming self funded with such a reliance on the state, fed gov, singers, builders etc.. Story in the APP on how the 600 school districts are going to HAVE to go k-12 or form regional districts. But that will up to the county to decide. So right along the shore you have Bradley, Deal, Belmar etc - all will have to come to grips soon, as will having to pay a fairer sahre of our property taxes. Anyone see that Neptune has introduced an ordinance to charge a 3% hotel tax? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
I thought about what you wrote before, about me taking things too personally. I'll admit that I'm too sensitive, so you are probably right. So, in the spirit of change that is so prevailing today, I'll take your observation as constructive criticism. I'd also like to suggest that you read the book The Tao of Pooh Best wishes on this amazing day. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleo...@... wrote: Thank you so much Jennifer and Jadee for the perception thoughts. Jennifer, your balance and equanimity is an inspiration for me and something I need to learn from. Werner, I am truly sorry for going off on you some weeks ago. I know how valuable your knowledge of Asbury is. Your love is clear. But science does tell us that perception has a lot to do with us. Is it Heisenberg's principle that even suggests that we CHANGE reality with our perceptions? I just listened to a talk by Russel Targ, physicist, CIA trainer and author of a new book called I think the end of suffering. Thats where my passion lies. I used to be so negative about everything (ask my mother). We have to change if we want our world to change. Be negative if you want, but it really only hurts yourself. Jack, you take things way too personally. Life is so much more enjoyable when you don't. Whatever someone says has nothing to do with us. Only egos get offended. No one can touch who you are at essence. Thats freedom. And insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. And complaining is useless. I don't have the time to be as involved as I would like, and I don't have the tolerance for the BS, phoniness, scheming etc. And I don't live in the past, or reminisce about it. I am an optimist and most people would look at my life and wonder how that is possible. I'm 41 about to enter vocational school. There are so many good things happening in the world its amazing. Find a talk on FORA tv by Paul Hawken. So beautiful. And it may sound kooky on this board, but the only reason we are here is to expand in consciousness and love. Yes for our enemies, those who would take us down, etc. Happy Happy inauguration Day! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: - maybe change is needed in AP as well. Someone to figure out AP's decades old fiscal problems and devise a plan that will focus on becoming self funded with such a reliance on the state, fed gov, singers, builders etc.. Story in the APP on how the 600 school districts are going to HAVE to go k-12 or form regional districts. But that will up to the county to decide. So right along the shore you have Bradley, Deal, Belmar etc - all will have to come to grips soon, as will having to pay a fairer sahre of our property taxes. Anyone see that Neptune has introduced an ordinance to charge a 3% hotel tax? Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Reality vs Rose Colored Glasses
Jack, I did NOT call you insane. I repeated a line I have heard over and over that has been helpful to me. When I get insulted, I AM taking something personally. Complaining IS useless. I even found a site (connected to the work of Eckhart Tolle) that aims to end complaining, gossip and criticizing http://www.acomplaintfreeworld.org/howitworks.html AND, I do not say this because I am free of complaining, gossip or criticizing. There are tons of things that the city does that I find absolutely ludicrous. The bike unfriendliness of cookman (the new section) is one of the grossest examples of absolute idiocy. So I make fun of them for it and ride my bike smack down the middle. But I also have to acknowledge that I wasn't there at the meetings, so I have to take some responsibility. All of my experiences sitting in the council chambers were a hoot to me. Ridiculous really. They are not smart people generally speaking. A friend who lives out of state for part of the year and is very active in his community once asked me about one of the council members. Does that guy have ANY education he asked me, He's a buffoon. That's why I can't go to those meetings. I once listened to one of the council members respond to a question and it was perfectly clear that the guy had no idea what the question was about. It was embarrassing. I'd give anything for someone educated in communication and government to sit and write comments about it. Another thing as I yab on. I was at an event where women in smaller government were being celebrated. A fairly well known woman asked me where I lived and when I told her, her response was Oh boy, you've got problems down there. They should NOT be sitting above members of the community, they should be sitting beneath them. Go sometime for entertainment. I recommend a few cocktails beforehand. I'll go with you, but I need a buzz. And it will be killed fast. That said, we can enjoy what is here. And it genuinely just makes me sad when it seems to bum you out so much. One of my favorite spiritual teachers says something like, everything is a mess and everything is exactly the way its supposed to be. He's the I'm an ass your an ass guy. Anthony DeMello. I will shut up with a quote from Ani Difranco The world owes me nothing, we owe each other the world. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: No, I actually don't take things too personally. I think you are blissfully unaware of how insulting you can be at times. You basically suggested I was insane in a recent post. You told me my perception is wrong. I love Asbury Park and I have a different vision where I wish the city would go and you tell me I'm wrong. Complaining isn't useless when it leads to meaningful discussion, and it breaks down when you interrupt that discussion by projecting thoughts in which you suggest insanity. You refuse to understand that my thoughts about AP come from the fact that I love this place. I subject myself and my car to a 140 mile a day commute because I don't want to live any place else. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Obre gabrielleobre@ wrote: Thank you so much Jennifer and Jadee for the perception thoughts. Jennifer, your balance and equanimity is an inspiration for me and something I need to learn from. Werner, I am truly sorry for going off on you some weeks ago. I know how valuable your knowledge of Asbury is. Your love is clear. But science does tell us that perception has a lot to do with us. Is it Heisenberg's principle that even suggests that we CHANGE reality with our perceptions? I just listened to a talk by Russel Targ, physicist, CIA trainer and author of a new book called I think the end of suffering. Thats where my passion lies. I used to be so negative about everything (ask my mother). We have to change if we want our world to change. Be negative if you want, but it really only hurts yourself. Jack, you take things way too personally. Life is so much more enjoyable when you don't. Whatever someone says has nothing to do with us. Only egos get offended. No one can touch who you are at essence. Thats freedom. And insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. And complaining is useless. I don't have the time to be as involved as I would like, and I don't have the tolerance for the BS, phoniness, scheming etc. And I don't live in the past, or reminisce about it. I am an optimist and most people would look at my life and wonder how that is possible. I'm 41 about to enter vocational school. There are so many good things happening in the world its amazing. Find a talk on FORA tv by Paul Hawken. So beautiful. And it may sound kooky on this board, but the only reason we are here is to expand in consciousness and love. Yes for our enemies, those who would take us down, etc. Happy Happy inauguration Day! --- In
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