[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One major crime related problem in Asbury Park is that we have our own private 911 center, instead of merging with the county 911 center. So instead of spending money to put more cops and horses on the streets, we use it to staff an inadequate 24 hour call center with all the fancy equipment that this involves. Redundancy? In addition, being part of the county system puts another set of eyes on what is happening in Asbury Park. It's crime and it's policing as well. i personally think the horses are the biggest waste of money and manpower, oh they will look great on cookman at first saturday and will be nice in parades, but bottomline 2 more officers off the streets,i know its too early but i wonder how many citations they have given out? dog and pony show when we need foot patrols as far as the 911 i totally disagree with you, first of all to continue to be in the county system had serious defects, number one the cost , its not free the number i heard was well over 50 thousand last year, secondly the time factor i call 911 it goes to the county then back to ap fire or police, instead of directly to them, 911 is suppose to be for an emergency if i ever have one i dont want a time lapse while phone calls are being relayed, i would also think local dispatchers are more knowledgable about our streets, then someone sitting behind a switchboard in freehold, which again could be a worth while time factor, thank you Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Oh some level, I agree, but the police aren't doing sureillence, and aren't making arrests. Calvin, who lives across the street, says he's called the PD many times, and he's fed up with their lack of effort. Now, I know the PD already have their hands full, but please. How many phone calls does it take for them to get the message. And, when a concerned for their safety citizen like myself contacts the PD, worried about the kids that I just reported, and they don't even bother to ask my name, that's also a problem. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
You have a point, but the whole nation has moved or is moving to county based 911. We are not special in Asbury Park to think that we can be different in this capacity. We need to cut costs. This is a place where it should be done. In addition, did you see app.com today? Guy from Neptune served 11 years for killing and sexually mutillating a women is accused again of new murder. How does a guy serve only 11 years for killing someone, especially that way? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: One major crime related problem in Asbury Park is that we have our own private 911 center, instead of merging with the county 911 center. So instead of spending money to put more cops and horses on the streets, we use it to staff an inadequate 24 hour call center with all the fancy equipment that this involves. Redundancy? In addition, being part of the county system puts another set of eyes on what is happening in Asbury Park. It's crime and it's policing as well. i personally think the horses are the biggest waste of money and manpower, oh they will look great on cookman at first saturday and will be nice in parades, but bottomline 2 more officers off the streets,i know its too early but i wonder how many citations they have given out? dog and pony show when we need foot patrols as far as the 911 i totally disagree with you, first of all to continue to be in the county system had serious defects, number one the cost , its not free the number i heard was well over 50 thousand last year, secondly the time factor i call 911 it goes to the county then back to ap fire or police, instead of directly to them, 911 is suppose to be for an emergency if i ever have one i dont want a time lapse while phone calls are being relayed, i would also think local dispatchers are more knowledgable about our streets, then someone sitting behind a switchboard in freehold, which again could be a worth while time factor, thank you Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Oh some level, I agree, but the police aren't doing sureillence, and aren't making arrests. Calvin, who lives across the street, says he's called the PD many times, and he's fed up with their lack of effort. Now, I know the PD already have their hands full, but please. How many phone calls does it take for them to get the message. And, when a concerned for their safety citizen like myself contacts the PD, worried about the kids that I just reported, and they don't even bother to ask my name, that's also a problem. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
A major issue with 911 in AP -- it is misused for non-emergencies. Also many calls are made from pay-phones and then hung-up on. The cost factor is -- each call gets billed to Asbury Park. References to 911 should be removed from all police vehicles, it only ecourages calls for ANY type of police service. 911 is so universally known that displaying it is not needed. Police vehicles should have only the local AP Police Dept number so the public gets familiar with it. A local 911 center was in response to the high cost of County billed 911 services. Werner --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You have a point, but the whole nation has moved or is moving to county based 911. We are not special in Asbury Park to think that we can be different in this capacity. We need to cut costs. This is a place where it should be done. In addition, did you see app.com today? Guy from Neptune served 11 years for killing and sexually mutillating a women is accused again of new murder. How does a guy serve only 11 years for killing someone, especially that way? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: One major crime related problem in Asbury Park is that we have our own private 911 center, instead of merging with the county 911 center. So instead of spending money to put more cops and horses on the streets, we use it to staff an inadequate 24 hour call center with all the fancy equipment that this involves. Redundancy? In addition, being part of the county system puts another set of eyes on what is happening in Asbury Park. It's crime and it's policing as well. i personally think the horses are the biggest waste of money and manpower, oh they will look great on cookman at first saturday and will be nice in parades, but bottomline 2 more officers off the streets,i know its too early but i wonder how many citations they have given out? dog and pony show when we need foot patrols as far as the 911 i totally disagree with you, first of all to continue to be in the county system had serious defects, number one the cost , its not free the number i heard was well over 50 thousand last year, secondly the time factor i call 911 it goes to the county then back to ap fire or police, instead of directly to them, 911 is suppose to be for an emergency if i ever have one i dont want a time lapse while phone calls are being relayed, i would also think local dispatchers are more knowledgable about our streets, then someone sitting behind a switchboard in freehold, which again could be a worth while time factor, thank you Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Oh some level, I agree, but the police aren't doing sureillence, and aren't making arrests. Calvin, who lives across the street, says he's called the PD many times, and he's fed up with their lack of effort. Now, I know the PD already have their hands full, but please. How many phone calls does it take for them to get the message. And, when a concerned for their safety citizen like myself contacts the PD, worried about the kids that I just reported, and they don't even bother to ask my name, that's also a problem. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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I don't know this for a fact and maybe someone out there knows, but with technology, the PD, may NOT have to ask, what your name is, due to the fact that caller ID, has been in the mainstream, since the 80's and was known technology at ATT, (experimental), but known, so they already know, that you are a frequent caller, may be seen as a nuisance, to them, but not to us. Authorities, forget, on purpose, how monies are derived to pay them and not necessarily from property taxes. State, local and federal taxes, are probably pooled to pay PD, Fire, etc., especially in AP, where firemen are paid instead of volunteer. Just saying that, to say, when you call in, you are seen as a frequent caller! Perhaps if more of us got involved and called, something, just might be done! Place yourself in their place, keep a diary of how many times a week, day, month, you call. Who knows, they may well be keeping tabs on you! Don't mean to run on, but I worked in Safety and Security, at one time in conjunction, with other managerial duties and I did keep a diary/record, of complaints/concerns. I'm not saying your calls weren't legitimate. You should also follow up with letters to the Mon. Co. Prosecutor/Sheriff, keep copies and retain a lawyer, on retainer, just in case. You may have legal recourse for the City not heeding your calls and JR, if you're reading this, please advise. Oops, forgot this is what you do for a living! Not looking for pro bono advice, but wondering whether we should form a safety coalition group, to show solidarity with Hinge on this issue! I live about 5 blocks from the park, never walk over there, but drive to the library, instead, but still interested in the welfare and safety of those living in proximity. I don't live on the West Side but I'm just as concerned for thier safety as I am for my own! I still drive everywhere from habit of living in the hills of Neptune, where EVERYTHING, was far away! One more thing, there is/was a citizens group, that is supposed to observe, the things that Hinge, keeps us informed on. Why aren't THEY patrolling this area? What is their purpose? I forget what they call themselves and they have an annual lights on march? When a little girl, was murdered, some time ago, a march was held and has been held yearly, in her memory. Her murderer, was never caught! I won't call her name, but if you've lived in AP 15 years or more, you know what I'm talking about. She was African-American and school age. The lack of follow-up, is so telling. It happened before the Louis Jordan era. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One major crime related problem in Asbury Park is that we have our own private 911 center, instead of merging with the county 911 center. So instead of spending money to put more cops and horses on the streets, we use it to staff an inadequate 24 hour call center with all the fancy equipment that this involves. Redundancy? In addition, being part of the county system puts another set of eyes on what is happening in Asbury Park. It's crime and it's policing as well. Just think how these county dispatchers could link crimes that are happening outside of Asbury Park to ones happening inside Asbury Park. I.e. The such and such drug gang did so and so in Neptune at 10:30 p.m. and then did such and such in Asbury Park at midnight. I think it would make it much easier to catch the criminals this way. I always find it such a joke that we are in so much of a financial crisis, yet we maintain the fire department and the police departments in a fashion that no other well heeled town with lots of money to waste would even consider doing. Borrowing from Frank: I speak for no one but myself Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Oh some level, I agree, but the police aren't doing sureillence, and aren't making arrests. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
I'd like to see what other people think about something else. Does our cities PD have any physical fitness standards? Now, I don't want to be thought of as a jerk, or mean or anything, but we have at least one officer who is incredibly out of shape. He is caucasian, and I often see him just hanging out on Cookman. Does this really present the proper image to the public? Also, what if an out of shape officer had to chase somebody on foot, or got into some kind of scuffle. Is it just me, or does anybody else think this is a problem? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, rook782 rook782@ wrote: One major crime related problem in Asbury Park is that we have our own private 911 center, instead of merging with the county 911 center. So instead of spending money to put more cops and horses on the streets, we use it to staff an inadequate 24 hour call center with all the fancy equipment that this involves. Redundancy? In addition, being part of the county system puts another set of eyes on what is happening in Asbury Park. It's crime and it's policing as well. i personally think the horses are the biggest waste of money and manpower, oh they will look great on cookman at first saturday and will be nice in parades, but bottomline 2 more officers off the streets,i know its too early but i wonder how many citations they have given out? dog and pony show when we need foot patrols as far as the 911 i totally disagree with you, first of all to continue to be in the county system had serious defects, number one the cost , its not free the number i heard was well over 50 thousand last year, secondly the time factor i call 911 it goes to the county then back to ap fire or police, instead of directly to them, 911 is suppose to be for an emergency if i ever have one i dont want a time lapse while phone calls are being relayed, i would also think local dispatchers are more knowledgable about our streets, then someone sitting behind a switchboard in freehold, which again could be a worth while time factor, thank you Hinge hinge98@ wrote: Oh some level, I agree, but the police aren't doing sureillence, and aren't making arrests. Calvin, who lives across the street, says he's called the PD many times, and he's fed up with their lack of effort. Now, I know the PD already have their hands full, but please. How many phone calls does it take for them to get the message. And, when a concerned for their safety citizen like myself contacts the PD, worried about the kids that I just reported, and they don't even bother to ask my name, that's also a problem. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
Is it just me, or does anybody else think this is a problem? Whatever happened to the old stop! Police! as they draw the gun ..or I'll shoot... Then one shot, in a crowd and down or like the old tv shows - the guy stops as asked, drops whatever he had... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to see what other people think about something else. Does our cities PD have any physical fitness standards? Now, I don't want to be thought of as a jerk, or mean or anything, but we have at least one officer who is incredibly out of shape. He is caucasian, and I often see him just hanging out on Cookman. Does this really present the proper image to the public? Also, what if an out of shape officer had to chase somebody on foot, or got into some kind of scuffle. Is it just me, or does anybody else think this is a problem? I know the guy you are talking about. He hung out at the paninni palace on the bw all summer and I thought the same thing. Then I was there that day that the two girls who could not swim went out in a rip tide and got caught on the rocks. That office sprinted all the way down there. I was impressed. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
Well, that's good to hear. But, don't you think our PD should have some kind of physical fitness standard so they at least look the part? Like the State Troopers? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I'd like to see what other people think about something else. Does our cities PD have any physical fitness standards? Now, I don't want to be thought of as a jerk, or mean or anything, but we have at least one officer who is incredibly out of shape. He is caucasian, and I often see him just hanging out on Cookman. Does this really present the proper image to the public? Also, what if an out of shape officer had to chase somebody on foot, or got into some kind of scuffle. Is it just me, or does anybody else think this is a problem? I know the guy you are talking about. He hung out at the paninni palace on the bw all summer and I thought the same thing. Then I was there that day that the two girls who could not swim went out in a rip tide and got caught on the rocks. That office sprinted all the way down there. I was impressed. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that's good to hear. But, don't you think our PD should have some kind of physical fitness standard so they at least look the part? Like the State Troopers? I know this is going to piss you off, and I do not mean it as an insult. But you are starting to complain about everything. Having children teaches you to pick your battles. Pick one and pursue it. Don't tilt at every windmill along the way. An overweight white cop is not contributing to the crime in AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
It doesn't piss me off at all. I'm talking about public perception. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Well, that's good to hear. But, don't you think our PD should have some kind of physical fitness standard so they at least look the part? Like the State Troopers? I know this is going to piss you off, and I do not mean it as an insult. But you are starting to complain about everything. Having children teaches you to pick your battles. Pick one and pursue it. Don't tilt at every windmill along the way. An overweight white cop is not contributing to the crime in AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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And honestly Dan, I am going to complain about obvious things. When I find a hypodermic needle, in a park where children are playing, and the city has been notified by multiple people about things like there being inadequte lighting, that's something to complain about. And if I see an overweight cop, I'm going to ask the question. It's not exactly complaining, it's observing. Sorry you have a problem with that. I'm only complaining about the things that I think will make a difference. Somebody needs to do it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: Well, that's good to hear. But, don't you think our PD should have some kind of physical fitness standard so they at least look the part? Like the State Troopers? I know this is going to piss you off, and I do not mean it as an insult. But you are starting to complain about everything. Having children teaches you to pick your battles. Pick one and pursue it. Don't tilt at every windmill along the way. An overweight white cop is not contributing to the crime in AP. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And honestly Dan, I am going to complain about obvious things. When I find a hypodermic needle, in a park where children are playing, and the city has been notified by multiple people about things like there being inadequte lighting, that's something to complain about. And if I see an overweight cop, I'm going to ask the question. It's not exactly complaining, it's observing. Sorry you have a problem with that. I'm only complaining about the things that I think will make a difference. Somebody needs to do it. The park is a big enough issue to deal with. I am trying to be helpful. You want to stay focused on that. If you add (I won't say criticize) other things to the mix, you get written off. yes, crime and public perception is the umbrella, but like anything else, deal with one thing at a time. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Ok, I'll take that advice. Perhaps I do need you to help keep me under control. Thanks, and I appreciate it. Jack --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: And honestly Dan, I am going to complain about obvious things. When I find a hypodermic needle, in a park where children are playing, and the city has been notified by multiple people about things like there being inadequte lighting, that's something to complain about. And if I see an overweight cop, I'm going to ask the question. It's not exactly complaining, it's observing. Sorry you have a problem with that. I'm only complaining about the things that I think will make a difference. Somebody needs to do it. The park is a big enough issue to deal with. I am trying to be helpful. You want to stay focused on that. If you add (I won't say criticize) other things to the mix, you get written off. yes, crime and public perception is the umbrella, but like anything else, deal with one thing at a time. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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tide and got caught on the rocks. That office sprinted all the way down there. I was impressed. Just proof that size DOES NOT matter Here's a story about a state trooper in that you bring it up. Years ago, I was actually at a city council meeting. At that meeting, there was a state trooper there - big. About 6'7. There was something on the agenda about a thank you from the gay state troopers association, When the time came, this very scary looking (size mattered) trooper gets up and proceeds to thank the city for allowing the gay pride parade etc etc, in his high voice. Many people turned their head and laughed. Me, I was impressed and asked someone why they were laughing. All I know is, if he pulled me over I knew he could kick my ass or due to his mattered size, I wouldn't attempt anything. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Ok, I will forget about this one. Besides, I guess I'm kinda chubby in certain places, so who am I to talk? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: tide and got caught on the rocks. That office sprinted all the way down there. I was impressed. Just proof that size DOES NOT matter Here's a story about a state trooper in that you bring it up. Years ago, I was actually at a city council meeting. At that meeting, there was a state trooper there - big. About 6'7. There was something on the agenda about a thank you from the gay state troopers association, When the time came, this very scary looking (size mattered) trooper gets up and proceeds to thank the city for allowing the gay pride parade etc etc, in his high voice. Many people turned their head and laughed. Me, I was impressed and asked someone why they were laughing. All I know is, if he pulled me over I knew he could kick my ass or due to his mattered size, I wouldn't attempt anything. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: 911 911 911 911...........
Sharon, Having been in a more technical role at ATT, I can add a little about Caller ID. Caller ID is actually called ANI, or Automatic Number Identification. Every time a call is initiated, ANI is sent along with the call data. In the early days, all that the data contained was the calling number. Later, database information was added to the ANI from LMOS (I think that was the Line Maintenance Operation System which included the subscriber's address. Whomever posted (I think it was DD) that the information is only 95% accurate is about correct. The introduction of VOIP (Voice over I.P.) made that accuracy even worse, but litigation has improved that number. I would think that the data of today comes from multiple sources. The divestiture of The Bell System certainly did not help this effort. One interesting fact about ANI is that although you can pay a small fee monthly to have Caller ID restriction or use *67 before dialing to hide your number, the number will only be hidden from the common folk. If you call a enforcement agency... or even a telephone Operator, they will still see the number you are calling from; in the case of 911, they also will see the address of the subscriber. Cellphones: About two years ago, a federal law was passed that ALL cellphones must pass ANI information to 911. A few providers also will pass GPS (Global Positioning System) information along with the ANI data. (If your carrier does this, it is usually disabled within your phone and available if you want it.) OK, enough about that. LOL If Asbury Park has E-911 Enhanced 911 the system is already logging the frequent callers which you spoke about. Some municipalities use that information to collect fines and / or prosecute frequent abusers. I agree with whomever pointed out that 911 should be used for emergencies ONLY... and that EVERYONE should know the telephone number of their local authority. And lastly... The Citizens group that you referred to is called Asbury Park C.O.P (Citizens on Patrol.) I met a few members this summer and made a monetary donation to their cause. (They were surprised that a non- resident was making a decent donation.) To contact C.O.P. with regard to assistance with Library Square Park (or anything else), please call Lawson June at 732-988-3269. If anyone can think of a way that I might assist in this effort (I am 3 hours away) please let me know. Congratulations to everyone today for keeping on topic and helping each other out! It was refreshing to read through the posts tonight. Glenn --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, 2fine4u [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know this for a fact and maybe someone out there knows, but with technology, the PD, may NOT have to ask, what your name is, due to the fact that caller ID, has been in the mainstream, since the 80's and was known technology at ATT, (experimental), but known, so they already know, that you are a frequent caller, may be seen as a nuisance, to them, but not to us. Authorities, forget, on purpose, how monies are derived to pay them and not necessarily from property taxes. State, local and federal taxes, are probably pooled to pay PD, Fire, etc., especially in AP, where firemen are paid instead of volunteer. Just saying that, to say, when you call in, you are seen as a frequent caller! Perhaps if more of us got involved and called, something, just might be done! Place yourself in their place, keep a diary of how many times a week, day, month, you call. Who knows, they may well be keeping tabs on you! Don't mean to run on, but I worked in Safety and Security, at one time in conjunction, with other managerial duties and I did keep a diary/record, of complaints/concerns. I'm not saying your calls weren't legitimate. You should also follow up with letters to the Mon. Co. Prosecutor/Sheriff, keep copies and retain a lawyer, on retainer, just in case. You may have legal recourse for the City not heeding your calls and JR, if you're reading this, please advise. Oops, forgot this is what you do for a living! Not looking for pro bono advice, but wondering whether we should form a safety coalition group, to show solidarity with Hinge on this issue! I live about 5 blocks from the park, never walk over there, but drive to the library, instead, but still interested in the welfare and safety of those living in proximity. I don't live on the West Side but I'm just as concerned for thier safety as I am for my own! I still drive everywhere from habit of living in the hills of Neptune, where EVERYTHING, was far away! One more thing, there is/was a citizens group, that is supposed to observe, the things that Hinge, keeps us informed on. Why aren't THEY patrolling this area? What is their purpose? I forget what they call themselves and they have an annual lights on march? When a little girl, was murdered, some time ago, a march was
