[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops

2008-07-25 Thread New Beetoap
There are places that protect scenic and historic views. Didn't 
anyone think of that before putting up those shacks?

I've always appreciated when I have good photo opportunities. That 
fortune teller place is known around the world and certainly should 
have been protected.

Its changed for the worse. It used to be a white building and the 
one nextdoor (bandstand) was orange. A great classic Asbury image 
from the boardwalk. Now its blue with a yellow building behind it as 
viewed looking NW.

 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Your point about taking that picture is a good one.
 People from all over the world who are Bruce fans come to Asbury 
to take pictures like the 
 one you mentioned. I met one of these people once in Germany, and 
she has a photo 
 album with a pic of her standing next to Madam Marie's. An entire 
side of that building is 
 now obscured by a shipping container.
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap newbeetoap@ 
wrote:
 
  That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up 
here 
  before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. 
They 
  block the views down the street too.
  
  Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good 
classic 
  picture anymore.
  
  
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap 
  wonderwomanator@ wrote:
  
   
   I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks!
   
   
   I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using 
shipping
   containers painted white as storefronts?  My God they are
   hideous!!!  They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions 
(which
   are looking great by the way)
   I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers
   whatever it may be is too much. 
  
 






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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops

2008-07-23 Thread New Beetoap
That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up here 
before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. They 
block the views down the street too.

Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good classic 
picture anymore.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks!
 
 
 I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping
 containers painted white as storefronts?  My God they are
 hideous!!!  They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which
 are looking great by the way)
 I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers
 whatever it may be is too much. 
 





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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops

2008-07-23 Thread Jack Pitzer
Your point about taking that picture is a good one.
People from all over the world who are Bruce fans come to Asbury to take 
pictures like the 
one you mentioned. I met one of these people once in Germany, and she has a 
photo 
album with a pic of her standing next to Madam Marie's. An entire side of that 
building is 
now obscured by a shipping container.


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, New Beetoap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That was my impression too, they are awful. This was brought up here 
 before they were even put in. Seems really cheap and tasteless. They 
 block the views down the street too.
 
 Madam Marie is really squeezed in now so I cant get a good classic 
 picture anymore.
 
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap 
 wonderwomanator@ wrote:
 
  
  I'm going to Rant so be prepared folks!
  
  
  I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping
  containers painted white as storefronts?  My God they are
  hideous!!!  They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which
  are looking great by the way)
  I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers
  whatever it may be is too much. 
 







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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops

2008-07-21 Thread njshoregirlap
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sandpiper15 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap 
 wonderwomanator@ wrote:
 I am a City Planner by education. I took many classes
  on Architecture and Urban Design . 
 
 They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which
  are looking great by the way)
 
 As a city planner what are your thoughts on having anything in those 
 spaces, regardless of how they look? I'm sure you know the history and 
 reasoning behind the flared streets between Ocean and Kingsley that 
 correspond to those spaces. Is it worth it lose that air flow and those 
 sightlines in order to gain whatever rent they're making on those 
 containers?


That's another point altogether!  I think that the thought that went
into the initial design of the street plan was visionary.  You have to
admit that the wide streets at the oceanside do allow some great
circulation to the uppper blocks in town,(of which I'm a beneficiary!)
If you compare Asbury design to say the obstruction of the oceanfront
in Long Branch you can see what extreme building conveysthe beach
is only for some people...for example.  

You raise some good points. I had only been thinking about the facade
factor when I initially posted.  Open spaces between the pavillions
does make sense if you are keeping with historical design standards.
It makes additional sense if you keep in mind environmental problems
of today.   Thanks.




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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops

2008-07-21 Thread oakdorf
-
 in Long Branch you can see what extreme building conveysthe beach
 is only for some people...for example.  


While the shops in LB (and AP) may be for some people - the beaches
aren't and won't be.

I've sat in the middle of Pier village on the beach - and it's
probably the most diversified beach in M county. And if you want to
see how the women from South America wear a bikini - that's the place
to go. 

Drive through Sea Bright - now that's really excluding some people.
And I'm one of the some (unless some other one invites me...then I
have to decide if I realy feel like being proper all day...or if I
want to hear about someone else
s problems...)




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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops

2008-07-21 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap
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 I haven't printed pics yet, but who ever heard of using shipping
 containers painted white as storefronts?  My God they are
 hideous!!!  They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which
 are looking great by the way)
 I am not sure how much the rent is for these hideous containers
 whatever it may be is too much. 


David Rockwell's latest design phase. Xanadu has a similar look.





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[AsburyPark] Re: Asbury Park Metal Container Shops

2008-07-20 Thread sandpiper15
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, njshoregirlap 
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I am a City Planner by education. I took many classes
 on Architecture and Urban Design . 

They dot the vacant spots between the pavillions (which
 are looking great by the way)

As a city planner what are your thoughts on having anything in those 
spaces, regardless of how they look? I'm sure you know the history and 
reasoning behind the flared streets between Ocean and Kingsley that 
correspond to those spaces. Is it worth it lose that air flow and those 
sightlines in order to gain whatever rent they're making on those 
containers?







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