[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
Jack, I agree! So why aren't well-heeled Thieves like Madoff, not being prosecuted? While this country has taken a giant step in electing Obama, an everyman from the generation, I thought, years ago would lead us into seeing the worth of everyone. A young man from your generation, with fresh ideas that seem honest on its' face. Look at the treatment he's (Madoff), getting for defrauding millions from honest, hard-working Americans and using them in the biggest Ponzi scheme perpetrated so far. As far as some party going posters here, I don't think Obama would waste $20 bucks on a drink! Neither would I. Matter of fact, I told a very dear friend, that I would concoct my OWN Cosmos myself, at home! I don't consider myself cheap, by the fact I own bottles of scotch worth over $200.US and wines worth over $50. right here! I find those prices excessive and I guess though it's whatever the market will bear, so for those who think it's a bargain, go for it! I have to smack my own wrist for paying $20 bucks for an absinthe, so touche! On a PS, my Bush clock ran out to 00:00 at 12:01 AM, 1/20/08. Our long nightmare is OVER! Putting it and other Obama keepsakes in a 2009 scrapbook. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: It's not about spending for the economy's sake. It's about spending responsibly. Too many of our citizens are over there heads in debt. Too many people bought homes they couldn't afford. I think that's what Oak is talking about. We also need to curb predatory creditors that pray on people's inability to read the fine print and understand what they are getting into. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I also agree about spending like fools Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b...@... wrote: Jack, I agree! So why aren't well-heeled Thieves like Madoff, not being prosecuted? Neither are the former execs who quietly packed up and left the banks knowing full well the end had come. They left with hundreds of millons in bonuses and perks. Madoff's mistake was that he should of just called the fed and said he needed help instead. The entire investment banking (and banking system) is flawed and corrupt. Pick up the sunday times from a couple weeks ago. The big banking party was in Boca. Fancy hotels, golf outings and speeches. Asked again how are these banks using their money - to protect the future of the bank, why not take free capital infusion - it makes us look better to a potential suitor.., to be open to aquiring others in trouble... for operating purposes Which comes right back to my example of Provident calling me the other day - busting chops for a regular loan to replace one adding fees upon fees - UNLESS, of course, it was an adjustable loan - then they would of been happy with 1/2 point. You ever imagine Citigroup at 3? Or Merrill being non-existent as is Bank of America - who are now both dollar for dollar BROKE? BOA when aquiring ML - BOA was around 36, ML 27. Now combined 5? The entire market, I've said it here a thousand times, is and was a giant ponzi scheme. Your benefit to investing is the constant or increasing dividend you are to receive as incentive to hang in. To tie it back to AP - that's what taxes are for. Taxes are like a ponzi - you need more and more and to hope that property values go up and up or you lure newer streams of taxes - but to pay salaries etc etc... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be? Haven't we all learned that you can't just spend money without any thoughts about what the reason is for the spending. The town has no money (12 million deficit) and MM has already spent millions without any payback as of yet. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: decided to set up large screens in CH or the Paramount for today's event in Washington. Lots of places are doing it. Imagine that. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be? Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet. No one would come, you're right. He gave a great speech. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
I'm inspired!!! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be? Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet. No one would come, you're right. He gave a great speech. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
I agree, great speech I too am inspired Hinge Oak and I at least agree it almost always comes back to economics. I haven't forget about the parking meter stuff, just backlogged a bit at work. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be? Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet. No one would come, you're right. He gave a great speech. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote: I agree, great speech Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway. They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were smart enough to print and sell his images on everything. The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of Obama on it. I know it's the event... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
I can't agree more. I celebration about diversity beginning with a public gathering to watch the inauguration. I'm glad we stopped production here at work to watch it as a group. I also agree about spending like fools, and I'd love to see that ideal spread to the way we manufacture things in the US. I know that's tough because we are a consumer driven society and so many of our products are designed with built in obsolescence. Surely we can figure out a new way... I also hope we've seen an end to the era of the McMansion, but that's going to be a tough one since much of our television programming is aimed at showing us how great celebrities and people with money live compared to the larger population. Shows like Cribs and on and on and on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: I agree, great speech Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway. They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were smart enough to print and sell his images on everything. The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of Obama on it. I know it's the event... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
I can't agree more. A celebration about diversity beginning with a public gathering to watch the inauguration. I'm glad we stopped production here at work to watch it as a group. I also agree about spending like fools, and I'd love to see that ideal spread to the way we manufacture things in the US. I know that's tough because we are a consumer driven society and so many of our products are designed with built in obsolescence. Surely we can figure out a new way... I also hope we've seen an end to the era of the McMansion, but that's going to be a tough one since much of our television programming is aimed at showing us how great celebrities and people with money live compared to the larger population. Shows like Cribs and on and on and on. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote: I agree, great speech Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway. They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were smart enough to print and sell his images on everything. The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of Obama on it. I know it's the event... Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: I also agree about spending like fools Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
It's not about spending for the economy's sake. It's about spending responsibly. Too many of our citizens are over there heads in debt. Too many people bought homes they couldn't afford. I think that's what Oak is talking about. We also need to curb predatory creditors that pray on people's inability to read the fine print and understand what they are getting into. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote: I also agree about spending like fools Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. How about spending smarter and/or healthier? It's great when it's coming in - if you/your spouse or family have seen no impact or worried about job security- then spend away. But those who live day by day check to check or have other concerns - really have to pay attention to where it goes. The old fashioned way: Column A - what comes in Column B - what goes out and where Eating less is a good way to save your life and money. The portions some places serve and the prices they charge saves your body but empties your wallet. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
You know what was great for me on the eating less issue? Finding out I have high blood pressure. First thing I learned was how to live a low sodium lifestyle. Awesome and healthy. Second thing was I had a really long bout with insomnia, so my dr prescribed Ambien. In order for Ambien to work, you have to take it on an empty stomach, which in general is 3 hours after eating dinner. So, that meant no more before the bed snacking. Now my BP is normal, I'm sleeping like a baby, and I'm losing weight. Love it. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending. How about spending smarter and/or healthier? It's great when it's coming in - if you/your spouse or family have seen no impact or worried about job security- then spend away. But those who live day by day check to check or have other concerns - really have to pay attention to where it goes. The old fashioned way: Column A - what comes in Column B - what goes out and where Eating less is a good way to save your life and money. The portions some places serve and the prices they charge saves your body but empties your wallet. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote: on on the bailout - I have a local bank to do a refi on a handshake deal. But someone asked someone from provident to give me a call. I finally hung up on them Investment property. Oh What's your credit score? Me: mid 6's some days some days less who knows... Oh..so then we add 2 points... Whats the value in TODAYS market me: 250 Provident: amount required me: 181 Provident Oh, that works out to 72% LTV.. we add another 2%... Prov: but you can go with an adjustable over 25 years...then it's only 1/2 point for this and... I hung up. Nice to see the banks making loans for people who pay on time more difficult. If anyone needs a commercial lender, let me know. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:asburypark-dig...@yahoogroups.com mailto:asburypark-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: asburypark-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: HOW COME NO ONE IS ON THE BEACH WEEKDAYS......
Mog, my kids and I were down the beach in Asbury today (wednesday) spending hard earned dollars and having fun. Where were you? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can't make it on just weekends.no one is on the beach during weekdays.AND THE FACT IS THESE BEACH BADGES WERE ESSENTIALLY GIVEN AWAY.MORE CRAP FROM ASBURY PARTNERS..ANTICIPATE PROPERTY TAX INCREASES OF AT LEAST 300%! I'M sure Joey and Tommy will chip in and pay everyone's bills! THE CHAT AND NIBBLE SHOULD STAY! That girl puts in a ridiculous amount of workhowever...my opinion is the food stinksand it's not HETEROSEXUAL FRIENDLYMORE LIKE A GAY HANGOUT FOR JOEY AND DANNY JTHE QUEENS OF ASBURY Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: HOW COME NO ONE IS ON THE BEACH WEEKDAYS......
From what I translated from MOGspeak, he had a great time at the Chat Nibble, loved the place, and was so comfortable, he hit on Mary as he was settling his tab. After he was rebuffed, his whole opinion of the place changed. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE CHAT AND NIBBLE SHOULD STAY! That girl puts in a ridiculous amount of workhowever...my opinion is the food stinksand it's not HETEROSEXUAL FRIENDLYMORE LIKE A GAY HANGOUT FOR JOEY AND DANNY JTHE QUEENS OF ASBURY Sorry, but it, and the Tiki Bar which Mary from Chat n Nibble runs is both straight and family friendly. BTW, I think the food is great. PS, some of us work during the week. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/