[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-22 Thread sharon_b283
Jack,
I agree!  So why aren't well-heeled Thieves like Madoff,  not being
prosecuted?  While this country has taken a giant step in electing
Obama, an everyman from the generation, I thought, years ago would
lead us into seeing the worth of everyone.  A young man from your
generation, with fresh ideas that seem honest on its' face.  Look at
the treatment he's (Madoff), getting for defrauding millions from
honest, hard-working Americans and using them in the biggest Ponzi
scheme perpetrated so far.

As far as some party going posters here, I don't think Obama would
waste $20 bucks on a drink!  Neither would I.  Matter of fact, I
told a very dear friend, that I would concoct my OWN Cosmos myself,
at home!  I don't consider myself cheap, by the fact I own bottles of
scotch worth over $200.US and wines worth over $50. right here!  I
find those prices excessive and I guess though it's whatever the
market will bear, so for those who think it's a bargain, go for it!
I have to smack my own wrist for paying $20 bucks for an absinthe, so
touche!

On a PS, my Bush clock ran out to 00:00 at 12:01 AM, 1/20/08.  Our
long nightmare is OVER!  Putting it and other Obama keepsakes in a
2009 scrapbook.

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote:

 It's not about spending for the economy's sake. It's about spending
responsibly.
 Too many of our citizens are over there heads in debt. Too many
people bought homes they 
 couldn't afford. I think that's what Oak is talking about.
 We also need to curb predatory creditors that pray on people's
inability to read the fine print 
 and understand what they are getting into.
 
 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote:
 
  --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote:
  
   
  
   I also agree about spending like fools
  
  Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending.
 






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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-22 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, sharon_b283 sharon_b...@... 
wrote:

 Jack,
 I agree!  So why aren't well-heeled Thieves like Madoff,  not being
 prosecuted?  

Neither are the former execs who quietly packed up and left the banks 
knowing full well the end had come. They left with hundreds of 
millons in bonuses and perks.

Madoff's mistake was that he should of just called the fed and said 
he needed help instead. The entire investment banking (and banking 
system) is flawed and corrupt. Pick up the sunday times from a couple 
weeks ago. The big banking party was in Boca. Fancy hotels, golf 
outings and speeches. Asked again how are these banks using their 
money - to protect the future of the bank, why not take free 
capital infusion - it makes us look better to a potential 
suitor.., to be open to aquiring others in trouble...  for 
operating purposes

Which comes right back to my example of Provident calling me the 
other day - busting chops for a regular loan to replace one adding 
fees upon fees - UNLESS, of course, it was an adjustable loan - then 
they would of been happy with 1/2 point. 

You ever imagine Citigroup at 3? Or Merrill being non-existent as is 
Bank of America - who are now both dollar for dollar BROKE?

BOA when aquiring ML - BOA was around 36, ML 27. Now combined 5? 

The entire market, I've said it here a thousand times, is and was a 
giant ponzi scheme. Your benefit to investing is the constant or 
increasing dividend you are to receive as incentive to hang in.

To tie it back to AP - that's what taxes are for. Taxes are like a 
ponzi  - you need more and more and to hope that property values go 
up and up or you lure newer streams of taxes - but to pay salaries  
etc etc...








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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread dsher4
Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be?  
Haven't we all learned that you can't just spend money without any 
thoughts about what the reason is for the spending.  The town has no 
money (12 million deficit) and MM has already spent millions without 
any payback as of yet.  


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 decided to set up large screens in CH or the Paramount for today's 
 event in Washington. Lots of places are doing it.
 
 
 Imagine that.






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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote:

 Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be?  


Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet.

No one would come, you're right.

He gave a great speech.




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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread Jack Pitzer
I'm inspired!!!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote:
 
  Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be?  
 
 
 Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet.
 
 No one would come, you're right.
 
 He gave a great speech.







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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread dsher4
I agree, great speech
I too am inspired Hinge
Oak and I at least agree it almost always comes back to economics.  
I haven't forget about the parking meter stuff, just backlogged a bit 
at work.  


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote:
 
  Well exactly who would pay for it and what would the turn out be?  
 
 
 Turn on the TV or better yet, the Internet.
 
 No one would come, you're right.
 
 He gave a great speech.






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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsh...@... wrote:

 I agree, great speech


Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, 
they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to 
the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway.

They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has 
created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were 
smart enough to print and sell his images on everything.

The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple 
given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of 
Obama on it. I know it's the event...






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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread Jack Pitzer
I can't agree more. I celebration about diversity beginning with a public 
gathering to watch 
the inauguration.
I'm glad we stopped production here at work to watch it as a group.
I also agree about spending like fools, and I'd love to see that ideal spread 
to the way we 
manufacture things in the US.
I know that's tough because we are a consumer driven society and so many of our 
products are designed with built in obsolescence. Surely we can figure out a 
new way...
I also hope we've seen an end to the era of the McMansion, but that's going to 
be a tough 
one since much of our television programming is aimed at showing us how great 
celebrities and people with money live compared to the larger population. Shows 
like 
Cribs and on and on and on. 

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote:
 
  I agree, great speech
 
 
 Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, 
 they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to 
 the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway.
 
 They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has 
 created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were 
 smart enough to print and sell his images on everything.
 
 The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple 
 given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of 
 Obama on it. I know it's the event...







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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread Jack Pitzer

I can't agree more. A celebration about diversity beginning with a public
gathering to watch
the inauguration.
I'm glad we stopped production here at work to watch it as a group.
I also agree about spending like fools, and I'd love to see that ideal spread to
the way we
manufacture things in the US.
I know that's tough because we are a consumer driven society and so many of our
products are designed with built in obsolescence. Surely we can figure out a new
way...
I also hope we've seen an end to the era of the McMansion, but that's going to
be a tough
one since much of our television programming is aimed at showing us how great
celebrities and people with money live compared to the larger population. Shows
like
Cribs and on and on and on.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dsher4 dsher4@ wrote:
 
  I agree, great speech
 
 
 Actually, I thought if they pumped up an inaguration event in CH or P, 
 they would of could of had an event that would of meant something to 
 the diveristy of AP - something like that anyway.
 
 They are calling OB one great stimulus pacakge on his own - as he has 
 created probably more millonaires in one year. That is,those that were 
 smart enough to print and sell his images on everything.
 
 The problem is to get people to stop spending like fools. An exmaple 
 given - those that spend $10 to buy a fake $1.00 bill with the image of 
 Obama on it. I know it's the event...







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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote:

 

 I also agree about spending like fools

Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending.






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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread Jack Pitzer
It's not about spending for the economy's sake. It's about spending responsibly.
Too many of our citizens are over there heads in debt. Too many people bought 
homes they 
couldn't afford. I think that's what Oak is talking about.
We also need to curb predatory creditors that pray on people's inability to 
read the fine print 
and understand what they are getting into.

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hinge98@ wrote:
 
  
 
  I also agree about spending like fools
 
 Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending.







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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsav...@... wrote: 
 Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending.


How about spending smarter and/or healthier?

It's great when it's coming in - if you/your spouse or family have 
seen no impact or worried about job security-  then spend away.

But those who live day by day check to check or have other concerns - 
really have to pay attention to where it goes.

The old fashioned way:

Column A - what comes in
Column B - what goes out and where

Eating less is a good way to save your life and money.

The portions some places serve and the prices they charge saves your 
body but empties your wallet.






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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread Jack Pitzer
You know what was great for me on the eating less issue?
Finding out I have high blood pressure.
First thing I learned was how to live a low sodium lifestyle. Awesome and 
healthy.
Second thing was I had a really long bout with insomnia, so my dr prescribed 
Ambien.
In order for Ambien to work, you have to take it on an empty stomach, which in 
general is 
3 hours after eating dinner. So, that meant no more before the bed snacking.
Now my BP is normal, I'm sleeping like a baby, and I'm losing weight.
Love it.



--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakd...@... wrote:

 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny dfsavgny@ wrote: 
  Really want to see the economy tank - stop spending.
 
 
 How about spending smarter and/or healthier?
 
 It's great when it's coming in - if you/your spouse or family have 
 seen no impact or worried about job security-  then spend away.
 
 But those who live day by day check to check or have other concerns - 
 really have to pay attention to where it goes.
 
 The old fashioned way:
 
 Column A - what comes in
 Column B - what goes out and where
 
 Eating less is a good way to save your life and money.
 
 The portions some places serve and the prices they charge saves your 
 body but empties your wallet.







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[AsburyPark] Re: How come no one

2009-01-20 Thread oakdorf
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Jack Pitzer hing...@... wrote:



on on the bailout - I have a local bank to do a refi on a handshake 
deal. But someone asked someone from provident to give me a call. I 
finally hung up on them

Investment property.
Oh
What's your credit score?
Me: mid 6's some days some days less who knows...
Oh..so then we add 2 points...
Whats the value in TODAYS market
me: 250
Provident: amount required
me: 181
Provident Oh, that works out to 72% LTV.. we add another 2%...
Prov: but you can go with an adjustable over 25 years...then it's 
only 1/2 point for this and...

I hung up. Nice to see the banks making loans for people who pay on 
time more difficult. 

If anyone needs a commercial lender, let me know. 





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[AsburyPark] Re: HOW COME NO ONE IS ON THE BEACH WEEKDAYS......

2005-07-20 Thread bluebishop82
Mog, my kids and I were down the beach in Asbury today (wednesday)
spending hard earned dollars and having fun.  Where were you?


--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can't make it on just weekends.no one is on the beach during 
 weekdays.AND THE FACT IS THESE BEACH BADGES WERE ESSENTIALLY
 GIVEN 
 AWAY.MORE CRAP FROM ASBURY PARTNERS..ANTICIPATE PROPERTY TAX 
 INCREASES OF AT LEAST 300%! I'M sure Joey and Tommy will chip in and 
 pay everyone's bills! THE CHAT AND NIBBLE SHOULD STAY! That girl puts 
 in a ridiculous amount of workhowever...my opinion is the food 
 stinksand it's not HETEROSEXUAL FRIENDLYMORE LIKE A GAY
 HANGOUT 
 FOR JOEY AND DANNY JTHE QUEENS OF ASBURY




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: HOW COME NO ONE IS ON THE BEACH WEEKDAYS......

2005-07-20 Thread jerseyjohn99
From what I translated from MOGspeak, he had a great time at the Chat 
 Nibble, loved the place, and was so comfortable, he hit on Mary as 
he was settling his tab. After he was rebuffed, his whole opinion of 
the place changed. 

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 --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, mognj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  THE CHAT AND NIBBLE SHOULD STAY! That girl puts 
  in a ridiculous amount of workhowever...my opinion is the food 
  stinksand it's not HETEROSEXUAL FRIENDLYMORE LIKE A GAY
  HANGOUT 
  FOR JOEY AND DANNY JTHE QUEENS OF ASBURY
 
 Sorry, but it, and the Tiki Bar which Mary from Chat n Nibble runs 
is 
 both straight and family friendly. BTW, I think the food is great. 
PS, 
 some of us work during the week.




 
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