Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
In a message dated 9/3/2007 8:48:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are groups: Blue Star Mothers of America, a support group, that councils spouses of their needs, financially and morally, The USO, ...We are constantly gathering supplies, such as lotions,... are in constant need, for lack of these items being readily available The media would have us believe that Cheny's Halliburton was tending to all those needs via their no-bid contracts. Some of the clips they used to show made it look like Main Street, Vacationland. That along with money donated to purchase all of the other items, add up and are largely donated by retired workers, like me. ...pregnant pause... It may not seem like much, but the letters and photos we receive, are worth it. This group did a lot of good, when AP had its' Katrina Drive right after the storm. I met many of the incredible people in this group and those who know me, know that I'm eternally grateful! We come through, when needed Wow, Sharon, what a great tribute to the value of community service, human interaction, and selfless giving. just don't know how this war is going to affect citizens, for decades to come! It's a shame! All those unaccounted for billions are a shame, more likely criminal! Regaining our lost goodwill will take decades. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
In a message dated 9/3/2007 10:20:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However or on the other hand sound to me like I would be sayihng something contrary. Perhads, additionally or not only that? Perhaps. Let's see. My gist was: The simple display of God Bless... or the Flag on your sleeve, SUV, or home doesn't really amount to support for our military. Without shared sacrifice, it's tokenism and show biz. Only military personnel and their families are sacrificing in this war. Your point: To the troop himself I imagine it means a great deal. To go into battle, to kill and risk being killed, I think I would want to feel a closeness with God. I would want to be sure in my cause being just, to be able to reconcile the killing with my religeous belief. Forget the perhaps. I'll stick with however or on the other hand. E.g. Without any real sacrifice, the average citizen's God Bless Our Troops and patriotism rings hollow; however, a spiritual closeness duty must mean a great deal to a man or woman in combat. or The average citizen's trappings of patriotism and religion, without shared sacrifice for the war, ring hollow; on the other hand, a sense of spirituality and/or patriotic duty must mean a great deal to many men and women in actual combat. If Werner were posting, he would have said a while back, That's all very interesting; however, let's bring the focus back to Asbury Park. His points would not exactly be contrary; but additionally or not only that don't work. Nevertheless, Cordiali saluti ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
Mario, I have photos of a soldier, hugging his box, from Monmouth/Ocean County, Blue Star Mothers and emails from him and his mother. They write: We didn't know that people like you existed! It makes whatever it took to see that smile, worth it! If someone tells me how, I'll post his picture, where you all can see it! If a picture is worth a thousand words, then this is it! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2007 8:48:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There are groups: Blue Star Mothers of America, a support group, that constantly gathering supplies, such as lotions,... are in constant need, for lack of these items being readily available The media would have us believe that Cheny's Halliburton was tending to all those needs via their no-bid contracts. Some of the clips they used to show made it look like Main Street, Vacationland. I saw a clip of that once and wondered if they really believe it themselves! Main Street, Vacationland! It's a bald-faced lie! They beg us for deodorant, toothpaste, replacement brushes, kleenex and baby wipes! The women GI's are sent feminine hygiene products, enough to last 3 months, or until the next box arrives! I feel a cry coming on. Sorry! Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
Twist your words? Friend my post didn't even disagree with yours. I simple added a new thought. Don't always jump to the conclusion that if I'm posting I'm doing so to be against you. That's a sure sign of how much you hate me. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2007 5:21:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To the troop himself I imagine it means a great deal. To go into battle, to kill and risk being killed, I think I would want to feel a closeness with God. I would want to be sure in my cause being just, to be able to reconcile the killing with my religeous belief. I didn't allude at all to any soldier's private religious belief. Don't twist my words. The God Bless and the Colors can be hijacked by those claiming to support the troops. In fact, no one, except the soldiers and their families, is supporting in terms of sacrifice Where is the leadership calling for us all to sacrifice, materially or otherwise? Mark Twain had the best take on War Prayer:_Click here: The War Prayer_ (http://thewarprayer.com/war_film.html) ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
Mario, There are groups: Blue Star Mothers of America, a support group, that councils spouses of their needs, financially and morally, The USO, The American Legion Auxiliary, VFW and their Auxiliary, Gold Star Mothers, Navy League and America Supports You, which is run by the DoD. We are constantly gathering supplies, such as lotions, soaps, baby wipes, razors and feminine hygiene products and snacks, as Exchanges in Iraq and Afghanistan, are in constant need, for lack of these items being readily available. Not a victory garden, or bond purchases, as we had during WWII and Viet Nam, but many people I know, still buy bonds through payroll deductions. You are correct, that the families and the soldiers are the ones suffering and being sacrificed, while those who have already served, do help by sending care packages over every month, bearing the costs, through donations. I purchased a case of hotel shampoos for $10.00, from a thrift store. It was worth $40.00 and had over 200, 1-ounce bottles. That along with money donated to purchase all of the other items, add up and are largely donated by retired workers, like me. We then have sorting parties, to pack the items. Over 50 cases a month are sent overseas, marked Any Soldier or Female Soldier, when feminine hygiene products are sent. It may not seem like much, but the letters and photos we receive, are worth it. This group did a lot of good, when AP had its' Katrina Drive right after the storm. I met many of the incredible people in this group and those who know me, know that I'm eternally grateful! We come through, when needed, but Bush Co., just don't know how this war is going to affect citizens, for decades to come! It's a shame! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2007 5:21:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To the troop himself I imagine it means a great deal. To go into battle, to kill and risk being killed, I think I would want to feel a closeness with God. I would want to be sure in my cause being just, to be able to reconcile the killing with my religeous belief. I didn't allude at all to any soldier's private religious belief. Don't twist my words. The God Bless and the Colors can be hijacked by those claiming to support the troops. In fact, no one, except the soldiers and their families, is supporting in terms of sacrifice Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
In a message dated 9/3/2007 6:11:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Twist your words? Friend my post didn't even disagree with yours. I simple added a new thought. Then use transitional words or phrases: however, on the other hand, etc. Otherwise, What we've got here is failure to communicate. Cool Hand Luke That's a sure sign of how much you hate me. You said the magic word. Goucho Marx If that's what you want to think fine.Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Cool Hand Luke But don't sully my rep with that childish you hate me. A line can be drawn between a person and their words or ideas. So I can hate the sin while remaining disinterested in the sinner; and now since the sinner broke our bargain, I don't have to buy all those drinks at The Wonder Bar. And I don't like it any more than you men. Cool Hand Luke Cordiali saluti, ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
[AsburyPark] Re: Prayer and Sacrifice
However or on the other hand sound to me like I would be sayihng something contrary. Perhads, additionally or not only that? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/3/2007 6:11:35 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Twist your words? Friend my post didn't even disagree with yours. I simple added a new thought. Then use transitional words or phrases: however, on the other hand, etc. Otherwise, What we've got here is failure to communicate. Cool Hand Luke That's a sure sign of how much you hate me. You said the magic word. Goucho Marx If that's what you want to think fine.Some men you just can't reach, so you get what we had here last week which is the way he wants it. Cool Hand Luke But don't sully my rep with that childish you hate me. A line can be drawn between a person and their words or ideas. So I can hate the sin while remaining disinterested in the sinner; and now since the sinner broke our bargain, I don't have to buy all those drinks at The Wonder Bar. And I don't like it any more than you men. Cool Hand Luke Cordiali saluti, ** Get a sneak peek of the all- new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
