[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-29 Thread 2fine4u
Mario,
For once, I read the APP, on the day it was published!  I'm always
behind, but I get enough news here, that when I read the paper, I
sometime, get another take on someone else's reading.  Boola Boola! 
My uncle Joe, who fought at the Battle of the Bulge, used to sing that
song all day for us!  He used to sing the songs, from the Jeanette
McDonald films, ALL parts, until we had tears rolling down our faces,
from laughing.  On the song, Boola Boola, those were the only words,
he knew!  Imagine him, singing THAT, all day!  

For those who think me crazy, I think it's genetic, in my family! 
They were such an eccentric bunch of people!  My Grandma, was very
dramatic!  A college educated Southern Belle, to the Max!  You
haven't seen Steel Magnolias, until you saw them!  Very genteel, but
FIRM!  She ran EVERYTHING, with a steel hand, in a cotton glove! 
There ARE no dumb southern women, from my vantage point!

On the school principal, I admire him, for getting off to a good
start.  Just showing the kids, that I care and I give a damn, speaks
volumes!  I've seen others try to do the same, but the system is
geared to beat you down!  I will pray for the success of a genuinely
naive man, but since he comes from the valleys of California, he just
might do it!  As far as the board, just when I thought they were all
getting along, I find that Frank D, is all alone.  It must be because
he is on the side for right!  Okay, going to go back to your link and
watch Boola Boola!  Thanks Mario, I need a lift!

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 In a message dated 11/28/2007 7:18:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Mario,  Boola, Boola, was before anybody's time! 
  
 lol. The  football fight song just popped into my head as I was
typing 
 that  post: memory cells are strange.
 Probably the only time I ever heard that song occurred when I was a
kid  
 watching cartoons on tv with my aunt who was baby sitting me.
 We both thought it was so silly that we laughed and sang it 
afterwards.  It 
 became our secret code song.
  
  
 Now, thanks to the IMDb web site and your comment, I was able to 
locate the 
 actual cartoon: 
 Tom and Jerry in Puss n' Toots_Allan M. Hirsh_ 
 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/)  .
(_http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/_ 
 (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/) )
 It's on the soundtrack for 8 movies -- all corny as hell, but such
sweet  
 memories of kids' tv from the 50's.
  
 
 I echo  your sentiment, too!  Academics were the thing for me, too!
Sports is 
 the  reward, for having done the work.
  
  
 It looks like we're in tune with Tyler Blackmore's  sentiments.
 Today's APP article about him hit all the right notes for me.  It
may  seem 
 trivial, but greeting everyone from the school steps is important;
I've  seen 
 the reassuring effect that has in my own experience elsewhere.  
Also, his 
 picking up trash is great modeling behavior. Block scheduling, 
Character 
 Counts, a passion for urban districts with low scores: All 
encouraging signs that 
 he knows what he's up to.
  
  
 His goal to change the public's perception is no small matter as
evidenced  
 by some of the comments following the article.
  
  
 Maybe the most significant point: He knew no one in the city  school 
 district when he applied for the job
  
 
  
 For all the lyrics and everything you never wanted to know about
Boola,  
 Boola!  _Click here: YAM  October 2000 - The Secret Source of that
Silly Tune_ 
 (http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/00_10/boola.html)  
  
  
  
  
  
 
  
 
 
 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-28 Thread apoojo
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

   SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF as one board member, I agree
 whole-heartedly with what you have said!  The situation would be a
 farce if it weren't so tragic.  Our lawyers work for us, but for 
some
 reason, they have made some sort of crusade in stopping Danny McKee
 from moving forward.  I know I am a frequent critic of the city
 council, but in this case, the city has given Danny the permits he
 needs.  That should have been the happy end of the story.  I hope
 tomorrow that parents and supporters of the Little League make their
 feelings of disgust and frustration known.  To add to the
 ridiculousness of the situation, it is my understanding that the 
State
 monitors, who have veto power over the BOE(!), are now involved in
 supporting our lawyers in their position that Danny must jump 
through
 ever increasing number of flaming hoops in order to accomplish what
 should have been a really simple process.  I am usually not a
 conspiracy theorist, but I'd really like to find out just who or 
what
 is behind this.  Does anyone realize the thousands and thousands of
 dollars in billing hours that our lawyers have charged the taxpayers
 in their effort to stop the Little League? My yelling and screaming 
at
 the lawyers has accomplished nothing.  I have said to them that I 
hope
 Danny and the Little League sue the BOE, and if he does, I will be a
 witness for the Little League, and if it means I have to resign my
 seat on the BOE in order to do that, then so be it. If the monthly
 bill for the law firm comes up at tomorrow night's BOE meeting, I 
will
 ask that it be separated, so that can have the pleasure of voting
 against it and explaining why.
Frank D'Alessandro
Thank you for the post, please provide us the voters with some 
answers, are not the lawyers appointed by the bd? i would think for 
them to go off on a crusade they would need the support of 5 bd. 
members, who are these knuckleheads? Let the public know and they can 
be voted out of office, that would seem more logical then you 
resigning. Im also surpirised, it always seemed you had the ability 
to reason with your fellow members and receive support, i am sure you 
have lobbied for this but obvioulsy with little or no help, again , 
name the names, this is outrageous, when wand where is the meeting? 
what is the total amount the lawyers are to be paid? good luck!!!




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-28 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thank you for the post, please provide us the voters with some 
 answers, are not the lawyers appointed by the bd? i would think for 
 them to go off on a crusade they would need the support of 5 bd. 
 members, who are these knuckleheads? Let the public know and they can 
 be voted out of office, that would seem more logical then you 
 resigning. Im also surpirised, it always seemed you had the ability 
 to reason with your fellow members and receive support, i am sure you 
 have lobbied for this but obvioulsy with little or no help, again , 
 name the names, this is outrageous, when wand where is the meeting? 
 what is the total amount the lawyers are to be paid? good luck!!!


Again, speaking only for myself, the BOE has on at least three
occasions voted its support for the Little League and Danny's efforts.
 Each and every time the law firm on who knows whose initiative has
turned yes into no.  (To add to my disclaimer above, I must add
that I voted against this law firm but I was in the distinct
minority.)  This law firm acts as if we work for them and not
vice-versa.  Unfortunately, when they spend countless hours (and
thousands of taxpayer dollars) on report after report advising the BOE
that 17 hoops have to be jumped through before Danny can proceed,
there are some who believe they are acting in the best interests of
the kids.  To me it seems like a protection racket of some kind.  And
most unfortunately, the new state monitor, yet another unnecessary
layer of bureaucracy, backs the lawyers!  The state claims to have
veto power over the BOE.  So I do not think you will find a single
person on the  board who does not support Danny and the Little League,
at least I hope that's the case, but we are more and more
marginalized.  And, yes, I have been totally ineffective and I know
it. Only in Asbury Park could this possibly be an issue.  Any other
town would celebrate the efforts of volunteers like Danny, not try to
thwart them.  I am ready to pay for the banner that can go over the
entrance to the city stating Abandon Hope, All Ye Who Enter Here.
   As stated in another post, the Board meeting is tonight (Wednesday)
at 6:30 at the Bradley Elem. School on 3rd Ave. 

Frank D'Alessandro



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-28 Thread 2fine4u
Mario,
Boola, Boola, was before anybody's time!  I echo your sentiment, too!
 Academics were the thing for me, too!  Sports is the reward, for
having done the work, first!  Back in the 70's I saw nothing but kids
who wanted to be a pro!  My advice was, learn all you can, first so
you enjoy the fact, that sports is the recreation deserved, for a job
well done in school!  I dunno, but I enjoyed cheering, knowing that,
I missed the honor roll, by a few points! All A's and maybe a B+, kept
me on the cheering squad!  Without those grades, I was toast!  No
activities, except books, were it not for my fierce competiveness, in
getting those grades!  It guaranteed me, that I wasn't just a pretty
face!

My nemisis, was I had an older sister, who was skipped a grade, she
was so smart!  She graduated Xavier at 16, honor society, a debutante,
her senior year, etc.  I had to follow her example, because this was
how parents raised their kids, back then.  It was Be like your
sister, which was no easy feat, for me.  I had to put my nose to the
grindstone, studing most nights until after 10PM, when there was
mid-terms, etc.  To my surprise, when you are a constant A student,
you get exempted from certain exams, unless they are state mandated!

I was one lucky kid, to have the kind of parents, I had. My father
taught me Algebra, who without his help, I'd have been a bum, as the
sisters would say!  So no, I didn't become a bum, or the H word, so
prevalent in today's society.  The B and H words were for girls who
didn't care about themselves.  My mother said they were common! 
Funny, I never heard a boy say those words, only grownups used that
language and rarely.  I remember my Mom, calling someone a harlot
and when I asked what it was, she rolled her eyes at me and said, you
don't want to know!   Sports are good for children.  It teaches
sportsmanship and discipline.  How to be a member of a team, rather
than a gang and making friends, for life.

When an adult who could be doing something else, takes time, for kids,
I call that love.  It's sad, that the Little League Coach is going
through something that can be made simple!  This is what turns me off
and wonder what the hell is going on in this town!

--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In a message dated 11/27/2007 9:12:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Mario and Denise had a short discussion  about the varying degrees
between 
 supporting education and supporting  sports  Both were making a
valid 
 point A few years back, ...  I was heartened by the extreme show
of support by 
 AP parents for their  football program, but I came to the same
conclusion Mario 
 did. Yes, it was a  great show of support for an undefeated football
team, 
 but, where, I wondered,  was that show of support(and outrage) over
the sad 
 state of Asbury's school  district? Asbury Park seems to be a front
runner, when 
 the team is good  support them, when the show is Springsteen support
him, but 
 the little guys  and the losers are just left behind.
 
 
 Fortunately for me, I taught in a system where academics were a top  
 priority.  Academics were complemented, not overshadowed, by sports;
and  more than 
 enough parents were just as interested in Advanced Placement scores
as  they 
 were in the game scores.
  
 I loved teaching advanced placement,
 BUT I'm also in favor of fully funded performing arts AND  physical
education 
 classes for all students:  teaching life-long skills for  physical 
 well-being. 
  




 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-28 Thread oakdorf
traderdube...I guess that's why we don't get it. That being that we 
grew up in Ocean Twp and played on what was the nicest little league 
field in almost the country. I know. I umped there all through 
highschool and took care of the field for a year or 2.





 
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Re: [AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-28 Thread MarioAPNJ
In a message dated 11/28/2007 7:18:53 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Mario,  Boola, Boola, was before anybody's time! 
 
lol. The  football fight song just popped into my head as I was typing 
that  post: memory cells are strange.
Probably the only time I ever heard that song occurred when I was a kid  
watching cartoons on tv with my aunt who was baby sitting me.
We both thought it was so silly that we laughed and sang it  afterwards.  It 
became our secret code song.
 
 
Now, thanks to the IMDb web site and your comment, I was able to  locate the 
actual cartoon: 
Tom and Jerry in Puss n' Toots_Allan M. Hirsh_ 
(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/)  . (_http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/_ 
(http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1458860/) )
It's on the soundtrack for 8 movies -- all corny as hell, but such sweet  
memories of kids' tv from the 50's.
 

I echo  your sentiment, too!  Academics were the thing for me, too! Sports is 
the  reward, for having done the work.
 
 
It looks like we're in tune with Tyler Blackmore's  sentiments.
Today's APP article about him hit all the right notes for me.  It may  seem 
trivial, but greeting everyone from the school steps is important; I've  seen 
the reassuring effect that has in my own experience elsewhere.   Also, his 
picking up trash is great modeling behavior. Block scheduling,  Character 
Counts, a passion for urban districts with low scores: All  encouraging signs 
that 
he knows what he's up to.
 
 
His goal to change the public's perception is no small matter as evidenced  
by some of the comments following the article.
 
 
Maybe the most significant point: He knew no one in the city  school 
district when he applied for the job
 

 
For all the lyrics and everything you never wanted to know about Boola,  
Boola!  _Click here: YAM  October 2000 - The Secret Source of that Silly Tune_ 
(http://www.yalealumnimagazine.com/issues/00_10/boola.html)  
 
 
 
 
 

 



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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-27 Thread asburycheech
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Case in point is the nonsensical BS surrounding the little league
field. 
 That was such a piece of crap story. Where are the leaders of the 
 community and why wasn't their voices screaming out against the BS? 
 Reidy, the Mayor, Bruno, the Bd of Ed, the school administration. That 
 anything could stop the hard volunteer work of anyone trying to make 
 sports more accessible in a town who's youth are decimated by drugs and 
 gangs is criminal beyond reason. Growing up in Ocean Township and 
 playing little league at Colt Field was a treasured experience that 
 taught life lessons still in use today. To think that the youngsters of 
 AP don't get that equal opportunity is ridiculous.
 
 That the kids have achieved so much in the face of such adversity, the 
 HS team going for a championship along with the Pop Warner kids
means so 
 much. I hope we all get out there and support them with all we have, I 
 know that I will.


SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF as one board member, I agree
whole-heartedly with what you have said!  The situation would be a
farce if it weren't so tragic.  Our lawyers work for us, but for some
reason, they have made some sort of crusade in stopping Danny McKee
from moving forward.  I know I am a frequent critic of the city
council, but in this case, the city has given Danny the permits he
needs.  That should have been the happy end of the story.  I hope
tomorrow that parents and supporters of the Little League make their
feelings of disgust and frustration known.  To add to the
ridiculousness of the situation, it is my understanding that the State
monitors, who have veto power over the BOE(!), are now involved in
supporting our lawyers in their position that Danny must jump through
ever increasing number of flaming hoops in order to accomplish what
should have been a really simple process.  I am usually not a
conspiracy theorist, but I'd really like to find out just who or what
is behind this.  Does anyone realize the thousands and thousands of
dollars in billing hours that our lawyers have charged the taxpayers
in their effort to stop the Little League? My yelling and screaming at
the lawyers has accomplished nothing.  I have said to them that I hope
Danny and the Little League sue the BOE, and if he does, I will be a
witness for the Little League, and if it means I have to resign my
seat on the BOE in order to do that, then so be it. If the monthly
bill for the law firm comes up at tomorrow night's BOE meeting, I will
ask that it be separated, so that can have the pleasure of voting
against it and explaining why.
   Frank D'Alessandro
   



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Traderdube [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Case in point is the nonsensical BS surrounding the little league
field. 
 That was such a piece of crap story. Where are the leaders of the 
 community and why wasn't their voices screaming out against the BS? 
 Reidy, the Mayor, Bruno, the Bd of Ed, the school administration.

Government in AP I've come to realize is like living in a family. You
build up defenses and mechanisms and ways of interacting with spouses,
parents, children and siblings. Sometimes the noise of the past keep
us from hearing or seeing what is NOW. We don't really listen
sometimes. You build up positions like a military operation and refuse
to budge.

Take for instance the city and the BOE. Why be at an impasse? I am
sure the condemnation of the BOE headquarters is a sore point. I am
sure there are even other circumstances I am not aware of. We have to
stop being prisoners of the past. We have to recognize that perhaps we
were wrong, or even if we were not and the other was, how long do they
have to pay for it?

And for some reason there is a tendency not to be open in AP (and I
assume most places). I give a person/entity more credit when they say
I made a mistake. Move one.

I don't suggest singing kumbaya around the camp fire, but there has to
be a realization that we are all in the same boat. Ultimately I
believe most want to get to the same place but just have different
ways of getting there.

I know the city was aware of the BOE's position of standing in the way
of the LL field. Whay was done to bridge the gap I don't know. Nor do
I know why if nothing was done. Frank was courageous and spoke out.

So instead of placing blame we move forward and fix the problem. That
is always my solution. What needs to be done to fix the problem. All
else is meaningless.  



 
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[AsburyPark] Re: sports and education

2007-11-27 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 SPEAKING ONLY FOR MYSELF as one board member, etc., etc.


Again, Bravisimo Frank!




 
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