Re: [Assam] Law University in Assam(Asomiya Pratidin ,01.04.2008)

2008-04-01 Thread mc mahant

More Laws will be written here?
By Eminent Jurists?
Or by Briefless Lawyers?
What happens to all the Past Laws  dating back from 
Mahabaharat,Manu,Talmud,Testaments,-- IPC,AFSPA.TADA,POTA,NSA?
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,01.04.2008)  The Chief Minister of Assam has announced that there will be a 
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Re: [Assam] Potatoeconomics of Assam

2008-04-01 Thread umesh sharma
thats why one should be careful about demand and supply. grow what has 
sustained demand - like some cash crops -- tea, mushrooms, soyabeans -- I am 
just guessing. or grow which nobody else is growing - saffron, sandalwood

Umesh

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On 3/31/08, uttam borthakur  wrote:




 A news item in Pratidin makes a difficult reading. Less of facts, more of
 opinions.
 But an item published on 31st March2008 is of concern. The prices of
 potato have suddenly plummetted in Assam. Apparently it should indicate the
 positive impact of withdrawal of Value Added Tax on food items. But it is
 not, because of the simple reason that the prices of rice-cereals etc. have
 remained sky-high.

 Then why this sudden drop in potato prices? Its answer can be found in the
 huge production of potato in Barpeta district under the aegis of the Oxom
 Unnati Sabha. In order to ensure that the Oxomiya farmers producing potato
 incur loss and do not dare to cultivate it again successfully, the mainland
 India trading lobby or the oligopoly or the cartel, by whatever name called,
 has suddenly reduced the market prices of potato so that the reigning market
 prices would not allow the local cultivators recover the input prices, let
 alone make a profit. Moreover, storing in Assam is a bit difficult, because
 of dearth of cold storage facility and lack of electricity to run the cold
 storages effectively.

 Such things have been taking place in Assam for a number of years in
 respect of tea, vegetables and now Potato. Some people may argue that let
 the market forces rule, as in any free market system. But history of
 economics shows that it is the trade barriers, subsidies and in short the
 protective policies of the state that have allowed the economies of rich
 nations grow. So such advocates  actually are the spokespersons of the
 mighty, and in this case that of the mainland India that uses Assam like a
 hinterland. Moreover, had it been a fairplay, it would have been acceptable.
 But here is a design working to stifle capital formation in Assam and the
 Indian State and its local lackeys are helping such a design to succeed by
 its inaction or covert helping hand.

 I believe that we should do whatever we can to foil and expose such
 nefarious designs. Yes, desecration of archeological relics is important
 issue to tackle. But brazen economic loot is no less a question.

   I am also surprised that the outfits that want secession or sovereignty
 of Assam, do not point out these injustices in everyday life and restrict
 themselves to denouncing state atrocities, to which campaign people have
 become desensitized to an extent, as it smacks of partisanship. The major
 problem with these outfits are that they have failed to give anyone an
 alternative picture or system, if they have one, to fire the imaginations of
 the people, who they apparently want to win over.


 Uttam Kumar Borthakur


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Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote cause of underprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Monday, March 31, 2008 )

2008-04-01 Thread DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
Still its a big mystery to ask why we need another foreign Gandhain to come all 
the way from Australia?Whilst we have real Gandhian- who were shut by our own 
people and Govt Why we cant bring them up and pay good respect to do...they 
was the man behind Assam agitation to make gala public awareness. AGP AASU 
betrayed them.They did lot- but our people neglected.Is it Australian money 
that make him great to Assam???
  Has anyone got the right answer?
  

 


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Re: [Assam] Prafulla Kumar Mahanta's son Shyamanta Kashyap

2008-04-01 Thread Ranjan K Baruah
Simply to say .No

I shall Oppose the Bandh and i request all concerned to oppose the  bandh
announced by YWO.


Regards

Ranjan K Baruah


On 4/1/08, mc mahant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 S-H-I-T ! Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 04:53:39 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam]
 Prafulla Kumar Mahanta's son Shyamanta Kashyap  YOUTH WELFARE
 ORGANIZARTION GIVING ASSAM BANDH PRIOR TO OWN FESTIVAL!! SO SAD.. HOW THEY
 ARE GOING TO HEAD FOR WELFARE.Hope he better should take to path of his
 father. Again some roots to ruin already ruined Assam ! I object such
 attitude that he carried from his father- the great betrayer of Assam. so
 sad to hear this early morning. Bikash  Assam News 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The world's youngest Chief Minister Prafulla
 Kumar Mahanta's son Shyamanta Kashyap, President of Youth Welfare
 Organisation,Assam , has called for an Assam Bandh on April 7 next. For
 those who have not heard of him, he is 19. Do not be surprised if Assam
 close down on that day and give birth to a new leader or a new political
 dynasty to Assam. By the way he was in DPS and passed 12th standard. He
 addressed a press conference on Sunday(30.03.2008) and Guwahati was
 flooded with postering calling for bandh.What is your opinion?
 Dr.Bikash Kumar Das Bangalore  - Bring
 your gang together - do your thing. Start your group.
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Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote cause ofunderprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Monday, March 31, 2008 )

2008-04-01 Thread W.Saleh
The answer is very simple Bikash. Because some of us from our comfortable
home, sitting behind the PC, glorifying the past achievements of friends and
relatives, passing judgements and comments on each and every subject,
without getting involved at the grass root level and do nothing to help the
needy. 

How many of us heard about the names of the schools which the Foreign
Gandhian is trying to help or other schools which are crying for attention.
A storm has damaged the school buildings and hostels of Prajnalaya, Titabor.
Are you or others organising a drive to collect funds to help them to
rebuild the damaged buildings? The Australian or any money will be most
welcome now.

Why throw mud on the face of a 79 year Australian who had the courage and
conviction to come to Assam to help the needy and underprivileged? From
Australia, the Foreign Gandhian was already assisting Parijat Academy
before any of us knew the existence of Parijat Academy. 

If you wear a pair of dark glasses you will see the world dark. Before
asking questions about Australian money, you should have tried to find out
what the Foreign Gandhian is doing for the schools in India. I can bet
that the Foreign Gandhian did and doing much more than many of us.

Wahid Saleh

-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens
DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
Verzonden: dinsdag 1 april 2008 9:36
Aan: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote cause
ofunderprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Monday, March 31, 2008 )

Still its a big mystery to ask why we need another foreign Gandhain to come
all the way from Australia?Whilst we have real Gandhian- who were shut by
our own people and Govt Why we cant bring them up and pay good respect
to do...they was the man behind Assam agitation to make gala public
awareness. AGP AASU betrayed them.They did lot- but our people neglected.Is
it Australian money that make him great to Assam???
  Has anyone got the right answer?
  

 


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Re: [Assam] Prafulla Kumar Mahanta's son Shyamanta Kashyap

2008-04-01 Thread W.Saleh

You can add my name too.

Wahid Saleh
 



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Simply to say .No

I shall Oppose the Bandh and i request all concerned to oppose the  bandh
announced by YWO.


Regards

Ranjan K Baruah


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 S-H-I-T ! Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 04:53:39 +0100 From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam]
 Prafulla Kumar Mahanta's son Shyamanta Kashyap  YOUTH WELFARE
 ORGANIZARTION GIVING ASSAM BANDH PRIOR TO OWN FESTIVAL!! SO SAD.. HOW THEY
 ARE GOING TO HEAD FOR WELFARE.Hope he better should take to path of his
 father. Again some roots to ruin already ruined Assam ! I object such
 attitude that he carried from his father- the great betrayer of Assam. so
 sad to hear this early morning. Bikash  Assam News 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:The world's youngest Chief Minister Prafulla
 Kumar Mahanta's son Shyamanta Kashyap, President of Youth Welfare
 Organisation,Assam , has called for an Assam Bandh on April 7 next. For
 those who have not heard of him, he is 19. Do not be surprised if Assam
 close down on that day and give birth to a new leader or a new political
 dynasty to Assam. By the way he was in DPS and passed 12th standard. He
 addressed a press conference on Sunday(30.03.2008) and Guwahati was
 flooded with postering calling for bandh.What is your opinion?
 Dr.Bikash Kumar Das Bangalore  - Bring
 your gang together - do your thing. Start your group.
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[Assam] Purno Sangma's Son's hands in the till too?

2008-04-01 Thread Rajiv Baruah

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Re: [Assam] Lachit Bordoloi booked under NSA

2008-04-01 Thread DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
Dada, honestly speaking now this the time to expose all.. who are alive now.
  Unfortunately most of them died like dogs.and rest are the AGP big belly 
ones
  All deserved to be exposed.Once I wrote about how Assam accord was signed. 
When we lost our traditions/culture/properties and glory- these people has 
nothing to be named even. They ruined all-
   
  Bikash
  
shantikam hazarika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bikash:
You should expose all those who ate at your house and later on betrayed you. 
Betrayal has been the hall mark of the aftermath of the Assam movement; the 
problem is that while the prominent ones attained a stature where they could 
adopt a stance of not bothering what people think of them, there are many who 
are still calling the shots but were never exposed.

Shantikam Hazarika


   
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Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote cause ofunderprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Monday, March 31, 2008 )

2008-04-01 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Dear Saleh Sahib,

Very well said.

Just wanted to also point out that if one were to take the trouble to visit
Parijat Academy, they would see a small room, constructed with the help of
money donated from a couple from right there in Bangalore and Hyderabad (I
think). These people have never even visited Assam, and yet they came
forward. Do we want to question their motives as well?

Then there is our own Ankur Bora (of Austin) who was telling me over the
weekend how he practiced running for the marathon just to raise money for
the schools.

It is unfortunate that the selfless efforts of Garvin Brown to bring some
awareness regarding the schools and also peace in Assam is looked at in bad
light by some people.

Then there are some like yourself who has been steadfastly and quietly
supporting various such projects in Assam.

In any case, it would be very encouraging if people even remotely associated
with Assam come forward to help out in various ways, small or big, directly
or indirectly the numerous schools, colleges, hospitals, ashrams,
language/cultural development etc.

There are so many areas where help is needed, my suggestion (for what it is
worth) to take up any small cause and help that cause selflessly.

--Ram


On 4/1/08, W.Saleh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The answer is very simple Bikash. Because some of us from our comfortable
 home, sitting behind the PC, glorifying the past achievements of friends
 and
 relatives, passing judgements and comments on each and every subject,
 without getting involved at the grass root level and do nothing to help
 the
 needy.

 How many of us heard about the names of the schools which the Foreign
 Gandhian is trying to help or other schools which are crying for
 attention.
 A storm has damaged the school buildings and hostels of Prajnalaya,
 Titabor.
 Are you or others organising a drive to collect funds to help them to
 rebuild the damaged buildings? The Australian or any money will be most
 welcome now.

 Why throw mud on the face of a 79 year Australian who had the courage and
 conviction to come to Assam to help the needy and underprivileged? From
 Australia, the Foreign Gandhian was already assisting Parijat Academy
 before any of us knew the existence of Parijat Academy.

 If you wear a pair of dark glasses you will see the world dark. Before
 asking questions about Australian money, you should have tried to find out
 what the Foreign Gandhian is doing for the schools in India. I can bet
 that the Foreign Gandhian did and doing much more than many of us.

 Wahid Saleh

 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens
 DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
 Verzonden: dinsdag 1 april 2008 9:36
 Aan: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the world
 Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote cause
 ofunderprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Monday, March 31, 2008 )

 Still its a big mystery to ask why we need another foreign Gandhain to
 come
 all the way from Australia?Whilst we have real Gandhian- who were shut by
 our own people and Govt Why we cant bring them up and pay good respect
 to do...they was the man behind Assam agitation to make gala public
 awareness. AGP AASU betrayed them.They did lot- but our people
 neglected.Is
 it Australian money that make him great to Assam???
 Has anyone got the right answer?





 Dr.Bikash Kumar Das
 Bangalore

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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread Dilip/Dil Deka
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the 
flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing flowers 
like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there different varieties 
of Modar?
  Dilip
  ==

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya Xaalika name. Back at 
Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot about it.










At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS wrote:
Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA 
/XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original 
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one 
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly 
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only 
tear for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us 
always like a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to 
keep one, but died due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss 
them.So no more birds to sit on my shoulders..
 This bird is very humanly and available in Bangalore also.But 
here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt 
know the next home.
 Hope al doubt is clear now-
 Bikash

Chan Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And 
thanks for sharing the autherntic Oxomiya
name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread , lowly Xaalika Sorai 
is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah.



 
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Re: [Assam] Potatoeconomics of Assam

2008-04-01 Thread Chan Mahanta
   Then why this sudden drop in potato prices? Its answer can be 
found in the huge production of potato in Barpeta district under 
the aegis of the Oxom Unnati Sabha.



 I am no economist, nor am I conversed in the intricacies of 
market manipulation, be it in India or be it in the USA. But one 
question does come to mind:  What is Assam's total potato crop? My 
guess would be it is minuscule.

Assam has been a victim of many forms of exploitation perpetrated by 
India and Indians, but  if Assam's potato production  volume being 
what it must be, I don't think the Indian potato mafia is the one to 
have manipulated the pricing to destroy the Borpetia-aluguti 
industry.  Crying wolf one too many times destroys the credibility of 
REAL reasons for Assam's discontent and outrage that is so skillfully 
kept under the rug by Assam's establishment.


Moreover, storing in Assam is a bit difficult, because of dearth of 
cold storage facility and lack of electricity to run the cold 
storages effectively.

 I have heard of this complaint for, at the very least, a quarter 
century, if not more.  Question is what have we seen as progress in 
this front?  Those who are ready to advise patience have a 
responsibility to explain WHY and HOW MUCH more patience Assam  must 
endure. And those pillars of Assam's society who would acknowledge 
the problem but would continue to aid and abet the systemic 
dysfunction of Indian governance over Assam which is /are 
responsible,  are at best sly operators trying to have it both ways.

I believe that we should do whatever we can to foil and expose 
such nefarious designs.

*** When those are REAL, I agree we should.  What holds us back?


I am also surprised that the outfits that want secession or 
sovereignty of Assam, do not point out these injustices in everyday 
life and restrict themselves to denouncing state atrocities, to 
which campaign people have become desensitized to an extent, as it 
smacks of partisanship.


*** Two points to note:

A: It is the same kind of logic that Indian apologists of Assam make 
about  holding ULFA  responsible for border protection, or taunting 
them for taking shelter in B'desh or challenging them to undertake 
development projects in Assam.   It is a patently immature tactic 
and/or complaint. Could be described in much harsher terms.  I will 
be pleased to explain if absolutely necessary. But I prefer not to 
get all that
harsh :-).

B: One cannot dismiss these villains on the one hand as 
inconsequential or stupid or both and on the other hand expect them 
to air their views in the media, while knowing full well that they 
won't be able to get a letter to the editor that mince no words, 
published; let alone be given publicity by the media controlled by 
the entrenched media. That is living in a make-believe world.


   I believe that we should do whatever we can to foil and expose 
such nefarious designs. Yes, desecration of archeological relics is 
important issue to tackle. But brazen economic loot is no less 
a question.


 These are NOT zero sum games in where they are exclusive of each 
other; where if one is pursued the other must be abandoned, just like 
everything else in life. The complaint is not at all valid.









At 6:44 AM +0100 3/31/08, uttam borthakur wrote:
   
   

A news item in Pratidin makes a difficult reading. Less of facts, 
more of opinions.
   But an item published on 31st March2008 is of concern. The prices 
of potato have suddenly plummetted in Assam. Apparently it should 
indicate the positive impact of withdrawal of Value Added Tax on 
food items. But it is not, because of the simple reason that the 
prices of rice-cereals etc. have remained sky-high.

   Then why this sudden drop in potato prices? Its answer can be 
found in the huge production of potato in Barpeta district under the 
aegis of the Oxom Unnati Sabha. In order to ensure that the Oxomiya 
farmers producing potato incur loss and do not dare to cultivate it 
again successfully, the mainland India trading lobby or the 
oligopoly or the cartel, by whatever name called, has suddenly 
reduced the market prices of potato so that the reigning market 
prices would not allow the local cultivators recover the input 
prices, let alone make a profit. Moreover, storing in Assam is a bit 
difficult, because of dearth of cold storage facility and lack of 
electricity to run the cold storages effectively.
   
   Such things have been taking place in Assam for a number of years 
in respect of tea, vegetables and now Potato. Some people may argue 
that let the market forces rule, as in any free market system. But 
history of economics shows that it is the trade barriers, subsidies 
and in short the protective policies of the state that have allowed 
the economies of rich nations grow. So such advocates  actually are 
the spokespersons of the mighty, and in this case that of the 
mainland India that uses Assam like a hinterland. Moreover, 

Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread mc mahant

Flowers of  Bottle Brush- a decorative bush introduced into Assam Around 
1950-- not from Indian Subcontinent.We have a big Bottle Brush bush at the 
entrance to our ancestral home  at Namti. I remember bringing that 
sapling+Mahogany ones from a Banamahotsav at Sivsagar in 1980
mm Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika  
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the 
flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing flowers 
like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there different varieties 
of Modar? Dilip ==  
Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the 
Sutiya Xaalika name. Back at  Namti we called it that as well--completely 
forgot about it.   At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR 
DAS wrote: Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA 
SHALIKA  /XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original  
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one  before 
leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly  behind me and 
sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only  tear for her..She was 
with us for long and will sit in front of us  always like a part of family 
and look at us.Here also I tried to  keep one, but died due to some food 
poison.Its too painful to miss  them.So no more birds to sit on my 
shoulders..  This bird is very humanly and available in Bangalore also.But  
here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt  know the 
next home.  Hope al doubt is clear now-  Bikash  Chan Mahanta 
wrote:excellent Chitta! And  thanks for sharing the autherntic Oxomiya 
name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread , lowly Xaalika Sorai  is a 
Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah.  
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Re: [Assam] Bottle Brush?

2008-04-01 Thread Chan Mahanta
Where has Bottle brush come from? The flowers in the AT  picture are 
NOT Bottle-brush flowers. They are not even close :-).







At 7:22 PM +0530 4/1/08, mc mahant wrote:
Bottle Brush  is close to the Weeping Willows  which interfered 
with  my Punting(kind of push barging) along Cambridge University's 
Cam (river) which was/is about 20' wide and 5' deep-- but to some- a 
Romantic name and Tourist attraction in England.
mm From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Tue, 
1 Apr 2008 19:13:06 +0530 Subject: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: 
Chutiya Xalika   Flowers of Bottle Brush- a decorative bush 
introduced into Assam Around 1950-- not from Indian Subcontinent.We 
have a big Bottle Brush bush at the entrance to our ancestral home 
at Namti. I remember bringing that sapling+Mahogany ones from a 
Banamahotsav at Sivsagar in 1980 mm Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:41:26 
-0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Subject: 
Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika  Looks like the 
bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the flower 
has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing 
flowers like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there 
different varieties of Modar? Dilip 
==  Chan 
Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bikash for reminding 
us of the Sutiya Xaalika name. Back at  Namti we called it that as 
well--completely forgot about it.   At 3:15 AM 
+0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS wrote: Haaa... Dada This is 
known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA  /XALIKA ( Chutiya 
Shalka).They are the direct version of original  Indian Mynah all 
because they call talk like you and me. I had one  before leaving 
for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly  behind me and 
sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only  tear for 
her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us  always 
like a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to  keep 
one, but died due to some food poison.Its too painful to 
miss  them.So no more birds to sit on my shoulders..  This bird 
is very humanly and available in Bangalore also.But  here people 
are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt  know the 
next home.  Hope al doubt is clear now-  Bikash  Chan 
Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And  thanks for sharing the 
autherntic Oxomiya name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread 
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Re: [Assam] vegetableconomics

2008-04-01 Thread Chan Mahanta
At 10:17 PM +0530 3/31/08, shantikam hazarika wrote:
I think this has been happening all along in Assam. A few years back 
I came across farmers in Kharupetia allowing their tomato crop to 
rot because the price they were fetching in the nearby market would 
not even meet their transportation cost to the market.


 And the answer to it is???


Unless the power situation improves, cold storage may not be the solution.

 The SOLUTION therefore is???


Also, simply having the cold storage may not be adequate, unless we 
have the total linkages in place.

 Therefore we ought to  ---???


Your jibe at the freedom seekers at the end of your note was not necessary.

 How mature an observation!

I am sure they are still looking into our antecedants before they 
can reply to the queries raised by us.

  Yes indeed!  The blind looking at the blind to lead the way.

So please do not disturb them with such issues which may be beyond 
their comprehension.

 Now that shows true maturity and deliberative skills so needed 
to engage in a productive discourse.



 I am not sure if I should laugh or cry.



As far as I remember, Assam Unnati Sabha need not worry since they 
have already contracted their production to a buyer at a 
predetermined rate. For any one starting a new business, that is the 
most sensible thing to do.State intervention is the only answer, but 
how it is to be done is again a matter that can be decided by in 
depth going into the problem. Unless the power situation improves, 
cold storage may not be the solution. Also, simply having the cold 
storage may not be adequate, unless we have the total linkages in 
place.
Your jibe at the freedom seekers at the end of your note was not 
necessary. I am sure they are still looking into our antecedants 
before they can reply to the queries raised by us. So please do not 
disturb them with such issues which may be beyond their 
comprehension.

Shantikam Hazarika
Director,
Assam Institute of Management
PO Box 30, GUWAHATI 781001, India
HOME PAGE: www.aimguwahati.edu.in

  Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:44:27 +0100 From: 
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[Assam] Potatoeconomics of Assam A news item in Pratidin 
makes a difficult reading. Less of facts, more of opinions.  But 
an item published on 31st March2008 is of concern. The prices of 
potato have suddenly plummetted in Assam. Apparently it should 
indicate the positive impact of withdrawal of Value Added Tax on 
food items. But it is not, because of the simple reason that the 
prices of rice-cereals etc. have remained sky-high.  Then why 
this sudden drop in potato prices? Its answer can be found in the 
huge production of potato in Barpeta district under the aegis of 
the Oxom Unnati Sabha. In order to ensure that the Oxomiya farmers 
producing potato incur loss and do not dare to cultivate it again 
successfully, the mainland India trading lobby or the oligopoly or 
the cartel, by whatever name called, has suddenly reduced the 
market prices of potato so that the reigning market prices would 
not allow the local cultivators recover the input prices, let alone 
make a profit. Moreover, storing in Assam is a bit difficult, 
because of dearth of cold storage facility and lack of electricity 
to run the cold storages effectively.  Such things have been 
taking place in Assam for a number of years in respect of tea, 
vegetables and now Potato. Some people may argue that let the 
market forces rule, as in any free market system. But history of 
economics shows that it is the trade barriers, subsidies and in 
short the protective policies of the state that have allowed the 
economies of rich nations grow. So such advocates actually are the 
spokespersons of the mighty, and in this case that of the mainland 
India that uses Assam like a hinterland. Moreover, had it been a 
fairplay, it would have been acceptable. But here is a design 
working to stifle capital formation in Assam and the Indian State 
and its local lackeys are helping such a design to succeed by its 
inaction or covert helping hand.  I believe that we should do 
whatever we can to foil and expose such nefarious designs. Yes, 
desecration of archeological relics is important issue to tackle. 
But brazen economic loot is no less a question.  I am also 
surprised that the outfits that want secession or sovereignty of 
Assam, do not point out these injustices in everyday life and 
restrict themselves to denouncing state atrocities, to which 
campaign people have become desensitized to an extent, as it smacks 
of partisanship. The major problem with these outfits are that they 
have failed to give anyone an alternative picture or system, if 
they have one, to fire the imaginations of the people, who they 
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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread Chan Mahanta
O' Deka:

Apuni etiyahe xui-uthil neki? Din-dupor holhi, gomei nepale. 
Xui-thoka xiale haanh dhorar kthatw xunise nissoy :-).



They have been identified and rested.

The flower is  of the Ximolu gos--Silk Cotton tree, Bombax  indica. 
Nothing even akin to 'modaar' , a wholly different genus. Yes there 
are different kinds of coral trees ( modaar). In Assam there are two 
varieties, the red and the white flowering ones. They are easily 
identified by the SHAPE of the petals and the tree trunks. which are 
dramatically different. Polaax  flowers are closer in looks to the 
'modaar', but not all to the 'ximolu' flowers.

In other parts of the world there are quite a few variants. One grows 
widely in Southern California coastal areas that is very similar to 
the red ones from Assam. The tropical islands like in the Caribbean 
and in Hawii have two or three different vrieties that are similar.

The bird is Sutiya Xaalika, Jungle  Mynah  -- Acridotheres fuscus, 
whose habitat is widespread in south Asia.  The picture I sent the 
link to the other day was from  Fiji.  The bird probably got there 
with Indian laborers taken by the British.

BTW, the familiar Xaalika sorai ( Common Indian Mynah) has become a 
much despised pest in Australia.

Hope this helps.

O'm









At 5:41 AM -0700 4/1/08, Dilip/Dil Deka wrote:
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too 
sure if the flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do 
remember seeing flowers like in the photo that we used to call 
Modar. Aren't there different varieties of Modar?
   Dilip
   ==

Chan Mahanta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya Xaalika name. Back at
Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot about it.










At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS wrote:
Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA
/XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only
tear for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us
always like a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to
keep one, but died due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss
them.So no more birds to sit on my shoulders..
  This bird is very humanly and available in Bangalore also.But
here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about bird, they dnt
know the next home.
  Hope al doubt is clear now-
  Bikash

Chan Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And
thanks for sharing the autherntic Oxomiya
name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread , lowly Xaalika Sorai
is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah.




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Re: [Assam] Modaar and Bottle-brush Flowers

2008-04-01 Thread mc mahant

So lifelike-all!!
 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 09:14:32 -0500 To: assam@assamnet.org From: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] Subject: [Assam] Modaar and Bottle-brush Flowers  For a picture 
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Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote cause of underprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Mo

2008-04-01 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
neglected.Is it Australian money that make him great to Assam???
 
No. He saw what many others (except Uttam Teron and a few) could not - that the 
children of the labor workers also need to grow up like regular human beings 
with dignity. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 

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 Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 08:36:08 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
 assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote 
 cause of underprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Monday, March 31, 2008 
 )  Still its a big mystery to ask why we need another foreign Gandhain to 
 come all the way from Australia?Whilst we have real Gandhian- who were shut 
 by our own people and Govt Why we cant bring them up and pay good respect 
 to do...they was the man behind Assam agitation to make gala public 
 awareness. AGP AASU betrayed them.They did lot- but our people neglected.Is 
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Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote cause ofunderprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Mon

2008-04-01 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
Very well said, Wahid-da. Thank you!!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Do what you feel in your heart to be right, for you'll be criticized anyway. 
- Eleanor Roosevelt 
 
 

 
 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: assam@assamnet.org Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 
 10:17:27 +0200 Subject: Re: [Assam] Gandhian visits State to promote cause 
 ofunderprivileged children(The Assam Tribune, Monday, March 31, 2008 )  The 
 answer is very simple Bikash. Because some of us from our comfortable home, 
 sitting behind the PC, glorifying the past achievements of friends and 
 relatives, passing judgements and comments on each and every subject, 
 without getting involved at the grass root level and do nothing to help the 
 needy.   How many of us heard about the names of the schools which the 
 Foreign Gandhian is trying to help or other schools which are crying for 
 attention. A storm has damaged the school buildings and hostels of 
 Prajnalaya, Titabor. Are you or others organising a drive to collect funds 
 to help them to rebuild the damaged buildings? The Australian or any money 
 will be most welcome now.  Why throw mud on the face of a 79 year 
 Australian who had the courage and conviction to come to Assam to help the 
 needy and underprivileged? From Australia, the Foreign Gandhian was 
 already assisting Parijat Academy before any of us knew the existence of 
 Parijat Academy.   If you wear a pair of dark glasses you will see the 
 world dark. Before asking questions about Australian money, you should have 
 tried to find out what the Foreign Gandhian is doing for the schools in 
 India. I can bet that the Foreign Gandhian did and doing much more than 
 many of us.  Wahid Saleh  -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL 
 PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS Verzonden: 
 dinsdag 1 april 2008 9:36 Aan: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam 
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Re: [Assam] Modaar and Bottle-brush Flowers

2008-04-01 Thread Alpana B. Sarangapani
Great pictures, C'da. Thanks for sending them to us. 
 
While growing up, I never paid much attention to Modaar phul, especially after 
listening specifically to Dr. Bhupen Hazarika's song with the starting line - 
Modaar-ore` phul henu pujaatu nelaage`. :)
 
I have learnt to appreciate everything colorful now though, no matter what 
people have interpreted it to be. But I wouldn't use it in a puja again (if I 
know that it is a Modaar-phul!), but that's just me. :)
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 

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Re: [Assam] Modaar and Bottle-brush Flowers

2008-04-01 Thread Chan Mahanta
At 11:27 AM -0500 4/1/08, Alpana B. Sarangapani wrote:
Great pictures, C'da. Thanks for sending them to us.

While growing up, I never paid much attention to Modaar phul, 
especially after listening specifically to Dr. Bhupen Hazarika's 
song with the starting line - Modaar-ore` phul henu pujaatu 
nelaage`. :)

I have learnt to appreciate everything colorful now though, no 
matter what people have interpreted it to be. But I wouldn't use it 
in a puja again (if I know that it is a Modaar-phul!), but that's 
just me. :)



 Thanks A.

You  will be, I am sure, forgiven by the gods :-). After all they 
must be the ones who ordered man not to use 'modaar ful' in their 
'puja'.  That is quite a break for 'modaar-ful' really. Because so 
few other flowers survive in urban areas, because they are plucked 
for worship, before man can enjoy them.

Anyway, does any one know what 'modaar-ful' did to fall from grace of 
the gods? It is, I hope, not something like 'boraali-maas' troubles.

Finally, there is much to derive pleasure from the plant world 
besides brightly colored flowers. Don't forget the lovely yellow 
green leaves of early spring, or the delicate lace-like tapestry of 
Krisnosura leaves against a clear blue sky, or the lance like bamboo 
leaves holding glittery dew drops on their tips in wintry mornings, 
or the silhouettes of arum leaves ( kosu paat) in the dusk on a ditch 
standing  like the heads of a herd of alarmed animals, or the 
graceful arching leaves of tall grasses mirroring on the still waters 
of a pond --- one can go on and on.

Colors, textures, shapes, the constantly changing quality of light 
-from dawn thru dusk and the accompanying shadows; fragrances, 
patterns --- all contribute to creating the magic of the natural 
world.
And they are all free. All we need is the desire and a conditioning 
to enjoy them. And once we begin to enjoy them and value them, we can 
begin to be good custodians of it.



























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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread W.Saleh

The Bottle Brush flowers (Genus Callistemon) - for more information see
Australian National Botanic Gardens.
http://www.anbg.gov.au/callistemon/index.html 

Bottle Brush is a native of Australia. As such I assume that the British has
introduce them to India and most probably the tea planters planted it in
their gardens in Assam. In that case it was in Assam long before 1950. 

Wahid Saleh

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Flowers of  Bottle Brush- a decorative bush introduced into Assam Around
1950-- not from Indian Subcontinent.We have a big Bottle Brush bush at the
entrance to our ancestral home  at Namti. I remember bringing that
sapling+Mahogany ones from a Banamahotsav at Sivsagar in 1980
mm Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika 
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the
flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing
flowers like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there different
varieties of Modar? Dilip
==  Chan Mahanta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya
Xaalika name. Back at  Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot
about it.   At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
wrote: Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA
 /XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original 
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one 
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly 
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only  tear
for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us  always like
a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to  keep one, but died
due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss  them.So no more birds to
sit on my shoulders..  This bird is very humanly and available in
Bangalore also.But  here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about
bird, they dnt  know the next home.  Hope al doubt is clear now- 
Bikash  Chan Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And  thanks for sharing
the autherntic Oxomiya name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread ,
lowly Xaalika Sorai  is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah. 
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Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika

2008-04-01 Thread Chan Mahanta
  In that case it was in Assam long before 1950.



 I think so too.











At 11:03 PM +0200 4/1/08, W.Saleh wrote:
The Bottle Brush flowers (Genus Callistemon) - for more information see
Australian National Botanic Gardens.
http://www.anbg.gov.au/callistemon/index.html

Bottle Brush is a native of Australia. As such I assume that the British has
introduce them to India and most probably the tea planters planted it in
their gardens in Assam. In that case it was in Assam long before 1950.

Wahid Saleh

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Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika


Flowers of  Bottle Brush- a decorative bush introduced into Assam Around
1950-- not from Indian Subcontinent.We have a big Bottle Brush bush at the
entrance to our ancestral home  at Namti. I remember bringing that
sapling+Mahogany ones from a Banamahotsav at Sivsagar in 1980
mm Date: Tue, 1 Apr 2008 05:41:26 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:
assam@assamnet.org Subject: Re: [Assam] AT Photo- A Quiz: Chutiya Xalika 
Looks like the bird's genus and name are now known. I am not too sure if the
flower has been identified quite definitely yet. I do remember seeing
flowers like in the photo that we used to call Modar. Aren't there different
varieties of Modar? Dilip
==  Chan Mahanta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Bikash for reminding us of the Sutiya
Xaalika name. Back at  Namti we called it that as well--completely forgot
about it.   At 3:15 AM +0100 3/30/08, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS
wrote: Haaa... Dada This is known in Darrang and Kamrup as CHUTIYA SHALIKA
  /XALIKA ( Chutiya Shalka).They are the direct version of original 
Indian Mynah all because they call talk like you and me. I had one 
before leaving for Military.She used to talk and if I run will fly 
behind me and sit on my shoulders... now when I saw this- I only  tear
for her..She was with us for long and will sit in front of us  always like
a part of family and look at us.Here also I tried to  keep one, but died
due to some food poison.Its too painful to miss  them.So no more birds to
sit on my shoulders..  This bird is very humanly and available in
Bangalore also.But  here people are not like we Axomiya !! Forget about
bird, they dnt  know the next home.  Hope al doubt is clear now- 
Bikash  Chan Mahanta wrote:excellent Chitta! And  thanks for sharing
the autherntic Oxomiya name, Kath Xaalika.Incidentally the widespread ,
lowly Xaalika Sorai  is a Mynah too. It is called Common Indian Mynah. 
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[Assam] Rome: Penalty for Celibacy; India - World's first family planning

2008-04-01 Thread umesh sharma
Hi,

I read today in Annals of Imperial Rome - by Tacitus written in  1st century  
CE / AD  in the chapter on  Tiberius  and the Senate   - pages 129 - 133  that  
there  was penaly if someone didn't marry  and  those who  had children got 
rewards.
http://books.google.com/books?id=eRtkHtyXNSgCdq=the+annals+of+imperial+rome+tacituspg=PP1ots=SjOB8y_Wjbsig=EbDpvbw0IV1z95_QcnzhUVEDQnshl=enprev=http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Annals+of+Imperial+Rome+tacitusie=utf-8oe=utf-8rls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialclient=firefox-asa=Xoi=printct=titlecad=one-book-with-thumbnail

Now this powerpoint at Johns Hopkins Univ says that India  started  the  first  
family planning  system in the  world.  Earlier  Rome (Augustus in early AD) , 
France (1666)  etc  rewarded  those with children  - perhaps   after  most of 
Europe  died  due to plague in the  earlier eras.
ocw.jhsph.edu/courses/FamilyPlanning/PDFs/Session1Slides.pdf


so health care improvement could perhaps lead to real efforts to control  
population otherwise there is incentive to have more population.

any comments?




Umesh Sharma

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Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
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http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)




www.gse.harvard.edu/iep  (where the above 2 are used )
http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/



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