Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
Quoting TC [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I agree -- I must admit I added the IAXy to pad out my argument -- my main beef is with the TDM4XXP card/driver. Nonsense the IAXy not only has some driver / hardware issues but the feature set make it unuseable in profession corporate enviroments no echo can no cpu for std codec like g723/g729/ilbc, only pcm/ulaw No DNS, bootp only bad provisioning IAXy has no security Not configurable via http single port price point $99, (sipura 2 port 75us), or 1 port $64 Oh wow. I didn't know the IAXy lacked all those features. I can get a Linksys PAP2-NA for $50 that has g729, dhcp, http config, echo can, etc..etc..I wanted to use the IAXy in deployment to work around NAT issues using IAX but if the hardware doesn't support some of the most basic features... Matthew This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
[Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes, digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must turn to the list. Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is there a HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of public IPs I can assign to it but don't know how. Thanks, Matthew - Original Message - From: Matthew A. Nicholson via RT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth Yes the hardware, and our drivers suppport both voice and data modes, but because of the nature of the configuration we do not support it. Configuring one of our T1 cards for data mode often requires a kernel recompile, and extensive network device configuration. Here at Digium our speciality is telephony not networking, this is why we do not support the data mode of our hardware. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed Dec 22 17:16:29 2004]: I dont mean to sound like a jerk but it says quite clearly on your website (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=wildcard_t100p) that this card does both Voice and Data. Why would you guys tell me that the card supports data but not support data config yourself? They are your cards right? Thanks, Matthew -- Matthew A. Nicholson Digium ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On December 23, 2004 10:37 am, Matthew Boehm wrote: Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes, digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must turn to the list. If Digium won't support it return the card and get a Sangoma A101u, it's approximately the same price and they've been doing HDLC/data T1s for damn near a decade. I am a fan of Digium but I am quickly growing tired of the lack of responsiveness from them on their hardware. Software wise I have *zero* complaints but the story is quite different when it comes to hardware support. :-( -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
At 10:37 AM 12/23/04, you wrote: Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes, digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must turn to the list. Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is there a HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of public IPs I can assign to it but don't know how. Thanks, Matthew I've gone round and round with them on this. From what I understand, the card will only work with a pri type t1 not a data line unless you have a device that will emulate that configuration. (same with the sangoma card by the way) only sangoma will tell you that. If you are thinking of a return on this card, They will tell you the loopback works so the card is ok, no return. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
At 10:43 AM 12/23/04, you wrote: On December 23, 2004 10:37 am, Matthew Boehm wrote: Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes, digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must turn to the list. If Digium won't support it return the card and get a Sangoma A101u, it's approximately the same price and they've been doing HDLC/data T1s for damn near a decade. I am a fan of Digium but I am quickly growing tired of the lack of responsiveness from them on their hardware. Software wise I have *zero* complaints but the story is quite different when it comes to hardware support. :-( -A. I spoke with a fellow, (can't remember his name, but had a british accent, there are only about 10 folks working there) at sangoma, and he specifically said the sangoma card will only work with a pri t1 (24channel isdn) not with a data line. regards greg ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is there a HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of public IPs I can assign to it but don't know how. Matthew, I fought with this for quite a while, too. I feel your pain. There is a wiki page that gives pretty good info: http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+data+configuration The biggest issue that I had was building the right version of the kernel. I have done this a few times now, and my recommendation would be Fedora Core 2 (2.6.8) kernel rebuilt with HDLC. Just so you, since you are talking data only, if you are setting up a separate box as a T1 router, you don't need to install asterisk at all. You only need zaptel for data mode. Let me know if you run into any more trouble. I would be happy to send you the .config for my kernel or answer any questions that come up. Hope this helps, Patrick ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On December 23, 2004 10:37 am, Matthew Boehm wrote: Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes, digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must turn to the list. If Digium won't support it return the card and get a Sangoma A101u, it's approximately the same price and they've been doing HDLC/data T1s for damn near a decade. I am a fan of Digium but I am quickly growing tired of the lack of responsiveness from them on their hardware. Software wise I have *zero* complaints but the story is quite different when it comes to hardware support. :-( And thats funny since I am led to believe most of their revenue stream comes from hardware they have the problematic TDM FXS/FXO cards and the non functional IAXy, ... and soon there will be DSP based T1 cards and we dont hear any announcements to add real hardware echo can's to their product offering AND where they excel is in asterisk software development but they are in a conflict of interest there being the hardware vendor, in some instances they wont list on the asterisk site some of these other hardware vendors (ie sangoma) one wonders how long you can go on as the dictator of OSS software whist being the defacto hardware supplier that controls the software site ... It sure would level the playing field if at some point down the line if asterisk dev was run more like the apache project with software dev independent of the hardware interests... and the hardware providers get out and compete on price/performance alone... this sure would get Digium focused :) but thats the bitch Mark has put years of blood sweat into it, now as asterisk start to become much bigger than the single developer/co how do you divest that control in a fair/equitable manner ...let the flames begin ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On December 23, 2004 10:59 am, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote: I spoke with a fellow, (can't remember his name, but had a british accent, there are only about 10 folks working there) at sangoma, and he specifically said the sangoma card will only work with a pri t1 (24channel isdn) not with a data line. That's David -- I have used Sangoma T1 cards for strictly data (no PRI, this was Frame Relay) for years -- perhaps not the A101u then but they do have T1 cards that do data. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
I tried to configure a TE110XP using HDLC (mainly to see if it worked) I called the guys at Digium because HDLC support is not natively compiled, they told me that HDLC was not covered in the free support provided with the card, I had to rebuildl the kernel but as I had not that much time available to play with the Cisco swith which was the E1 connection I had to end the test there, however there is some info in: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Data%20Configuration I also read some of the posts in the lists like http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-May/047704.html http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-May/000545.html hope this helps... bye, M. - Original Message - From: Matthew Boehm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:37 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes, digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must turn to the list. Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is there a HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of public IPs I can assign to it but don't know how. Thanks, Matthew - Original Message - From: Matthew A. Nicholson via RT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth Yes the hardware, and our drivers suppport both voice and data modes, but because of the nature of the configuration we do not support it. Configuring one of our T1 cards for data mode often requires a kernel recompile, and extensive network device configuration. Here at Digium our speciality is telephony not networking, this is why we do not support the data mode of our hardware. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed Dec 22 17:16:29 2004]: I dont mean to sound like a jerk but it says quite clearly on your website (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=wildcard_t100p) that this card does both Voice and Data. Why would you guys tell me that the card supports data but not support data config yourself? They are your cards right? Thanks, Matthew -- Matthew A. Nicholson Digium ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
At 11:17 AM 12/23/04, you wrote: On December 23, 2004 10:59 am, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote: I spoke with a fellow, (can't remember his name, but had a british accent, there are only about 10 folks working there) at sangoma, and he specifically said the sangoma card will only work with a pri t1 (24channel isdn) not with a data line. That's David -- I have used Sangoma T1 cards for strictly data (no PRI, this was Frame Relay) for years -- perhaps not the A101u then but they do have T1 cards that do data. Yes David. The card I was discussing with him was the A100 g ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On December 23, 2004 11:14 am, TC wrote: but thats the bitch Mark has put years of blood sweat into it, now as asterisk start to become much bigger than the single developer/co how do you divest that control in a fair/equitable manner I agree with you on all points -- If Digium needs to make money on hardware then they obviously need to get some decent hardware/driver design done -- What we have works for the most part but these ongoing problems and the almost total lack of dialogue is a big issue which *does* hurt future sales. I like Digium. I want to buy Digium. But I won't if the support or quality isn't there. It's really that simple. Digium's in a hard spot -- spend more money to fix the issues and eat into current revenues, or deal with lower future revenues. I don't envy them. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
What I am confused about the most is this section in /etc/zaptel.conf: # Next come the dynamic span definitions, in the form: # dynamic=driver,address,numchans,timing # # Where driver is the name of the driver (e.g. eth), address is the # driver specific address (like a MAC for eth), numchans is the number # of channels, and timing is a timing priority, like for a normal span. # use 0 to not use this as a timing source, or prioritize them as # primary, secondard, etc. Note that you MUST have a REAL zaptel device # if you are not using external timing. # # dynamic=eth,eth0/00:02:b3:35:43:9c,24,0 The wiki doesn't say anything about this dynamic stuff. Any clues out there? Or can I just ignore it? Thanks, Matthew - Original Message - From: Listas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:37 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth I tried to configure a TE110XP using HDLC (mainly to see if it worked) I called the guys at Digium because HDLC support is not natively compiled, they told me that HDLC was not covered in the free support provided with the card, I had to rebuildl the kernel but as I had not that much time available to play with the Cisco swith which was the E1 connection I had to end the test there, however there is some info in: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Data%20Configuration I also read some of the posts in the lists like http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-May/047704.html http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-May/000545.html hope this helps... bye, M. - Original Message - From: Matthew Boehm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:37 PM Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes, digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must turn to the list. Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is there a HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of public IPs I can assign to it but don't know how. Thanks, Matthew - Original Message - From: Matthew A. Nicholson via RT [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:38 AM Subject: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth Yes the hardware, and our drivers suppport both voice and data modes, but because of the nature of the configuration we do not support it. Configuring one of our T1 cards for data mode often requires a kernel recompile, and extensive network device configuration. Here at Digium our speciality is telephony not networking, this is why we do not support the data mode of our hardware. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed Dec 22 17:16:29 2004]: I dont mean to sound like a jerk but it says quite clearly on your website (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=wildcard_t100p) that this card does both Voice and Data. Why would you guys tell me that the card supports data but not support data config yourself? They are your cards right? Thanks, Matthew -- Matthew A. Nicholson Digium ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 11:24 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote: What I am confused about the most is this section in /etc/zaptel.conf: # Next come the dynamic span definitions, in the form: # dynamic=driver,address,numchans,timing # # Where driver is the name of the driver (e.g. eth), address is the # driver specific address (like a MAC for eth), numchans is the number # of channels, and timing is a timing priority, like for a normal span. # use 0 to not use this as a timing source, or prioritize them as # primary, secondard, etc. Note that you MUST have a REAL zaptel device # if you are not using external timing. # # dynamic=eth,eth0/00:02:b3:35:43:9c,24,0 The wiki doesn't say anything about this dynamic stuff. Any clues out there? Or can I just ignore it? The dynamic stuff is about using tdm over ethernet. I'm pretty sure it is covered, but I don't feel like looking it up. I still don't see much of a benefit to it over using IAX2 and trunking. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
At 11:52 AM 12/23/04, you wrote: On December 23, 2004 11:14 am, TC wrote: but thats the bitch Mark has put years of blood sweat into it, now as asterisk start to become much bigger than the single developer/co how do you divest that control in a fair/equitable manner I agree with you on all points -- If Digium needs to make money on hardware then they obviously need to get some decent hardware/driver design done -- What we have works for the most part but these ongoing problems and the almost total lack of dialogue is a big issue which *does* hurt future sales. I like Digium. I want to buy Digium. But I won't if the support or quality isn't there. It's really that simple. Digium's in a hard spot -- spend more money to fix the issues and eat into current revenues, or deal with lower future revenues. I don't envy them. -A. If it aint broke, don't fix it... in this case, it's broke. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 12:35 -0500, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote: At 11:52 AM 12/23/04, you wrote: On December 23, 2004 11:14 am, TC wrote: but thats the bitch Mark has put years of blood sweat into it, now as asterisk start to become much bigger than the single developer/co how do you divest that control in a fair/equitable manner I agree with you on all points -- If Digium needs to make money on hardware then they obviously need to get some decent hardware/driver design done -- What we have works for the most part but these ongoing problems and the almost total lack of dialogue is a big issue which *does* hurt future sales. I like Digium. I want to buy Digium. But I won't if the support or quality isn't there. It's really that simple. Digium's in a hard spot -- spend more money to fix the issues and eat into current revenues, or deal with lower future revenues. I don't envy them. -A. If it aint broke, don't fix it... in this case, it's broke. Maybe some of the users just aren't up to the task of getting the job done. My experience thus far has been very good. All the hardware with the exception of one which was in marginal at best pieces of equipment has performed perfectly and without fault. I currently have a T400P and a T100P in production use and they have been running non stop for months on end with out a single hardware related fault nor a single asterisk bug. I have had a T100P flake out before, but it was in some electrically difficult environment and on marginal(via) hardware. Our enjoyment of the stability has prompted us to buy a TE410P and another T100P for growth and redundancy. I think some users need to have their assumptions and values checked to see how far from reality they are. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On December 23, 2004 12:58 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote: Maybe some of the users just aren't up to the task of getting the job done. My experience thus far has been very good. All the hardware with the exception of one which was in marginal at best pieces of equipment has performed perfectly and without fault. The T100P is generally good and the TE405P is solid, IMO. However we're not talking about audio and these cards. :-) I think some users need to have their assumptions and values checked to see how far from reality they are. While I agree, I also must point out - TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems. I believe the FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around. Hopefully the same fix works. - IAXy - I have no personal experience with this but the list has been showing dead modules recently -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 13:26 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On December 23, 2004 12:58 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote: Maybe some of the users just aren't up to the task of getting the job done. My experience thus far has been very good. All the hardware with the exception of one which was in marginal at best pieces of equipment has performed perfectly and without fault. The T100P is generally good and the TE405P is solid, IMO. However we're not talking about audio and these cards. :-) I happen to know of at least one person doing mixed audio and data. I even have done ISDN dialup via ZapRAS when we had to prove it worked. I think it is as stated before, the free 1 hour of support is insufficient to help a mildly knowledgeable user through the setup. I think some users need to have their assumptions and values checked to see how far from reality they are. While I agree, I also must point out - TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems. I believe the FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around. Hopefully the same fix works. I think this is also a case of unprepared users and a not yet polished product. Only those doing small time to hobby deployments use those cards. You can't expect them to be as knowledgeable as the people deploying on PRIs. I think both aspects compound the trouble. - IAXy - I have no personal experience with this but the list has been showing dead modules recently Out of the number of multi hundred deployments I have heard about, I think the couple you hear here and there are probably statistically insignificant overall. Doesn't help the specific users who are getting bit, but overall, I don't see enough to think there is an inherent problem. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
# Next come the dynamic span definitions, in the form: # dynamic=driver,address,numchans,timing # # Where driver is the name of the driver (e.g. eth), address is the # driver specific address (like a MAC for eth), numchans is the number # of channels, and timing is a timing priority, like for a normal span. # use 0 to not use this as a timing source, or prioritize them as # primary, secondard, etc. Note that you MUST have a REAL zaptel device # if you are not using external timing. # # dynamic=eth,eth0/00:02:b3:35:43:9c,24,0 The wiki doesn't say anything about this dynamic stuff. Any clues out there? Or can I just ignore it? I am pretty sure the dynamic stuff is for TDMoE, not data T1. Patrick ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
A lot of this has to do with the stupid linux kernel changing HDLC api time after time after time.. I think at least 4 times thus far. I think if you use 2.4.18 kernel you'll be able to get it to work. bkw -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Critchfield Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:32 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 13:26 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On December 23, 2004 12:58 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote: Maybe some of the users just aren't up to the task of getting the job done. My experience thus far has been very good. All the hardware with the exception of one which was in marginal at best pieces of equipment has performed perfectly and without fault. The T100P is generally good and the TE405P is solid, IMO. However we're not talking about audio and these cards. :-) I happen to know of at least one person doing mixed audio and data. I even have done ISDN dialup via ZapRAS when we had to prove it worked. I think it is as stated before, the free 1 hour of support is insufficient to help a mildly knowledgeable user through the setup. I think some users need to have their assumptions and values checked to see how far from reality they are. While I agree, I also must point out - TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems. I believe the FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around. Hopefully the same fix works. I think this is also a case of unprepared users and a not yet polished product. Only those doing small time to hobby deployments use those cards. You can't expect them to be as knowledgeable as the people deploying on PRIs. I think both aspects compound the trouble. - IAXy - I have no personal experience with this but the list has been showing dead modules recently Out of the number of multi hundred deployments I have heard about, I think the couple you hear here and there are probably statistically insignificant overall. Doesn't help the specific users who are getting bit, but overall, I don't see enough to think there is an inherent problem. -- Steven Critchfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
On December 23, 2004 02:31 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote: While I agree, I also must point out - TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems. I believe the FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around. Hopefully the same fix works. I think this is also a case of unprepared users and a not yet polished product. Only those doing small time to hobby deployments use those cards. You can't expect them to be as knowledgeable as the people deploying on PRIs. I think both aspects compound the trouble. Untrue. SOHO deployments would make very good use of this card, but I am speccing out T100Ps and channel banks (and all the costs associated with this setup) because these cards are not stable (yet). Being able to put a pair or even three TDM400Ps would be very beneficial to me, and I'm neither a hobby user nor unknowlegeable about the issues at hand. (At least I don't think I am unknowlegeable, perhaps I am?) Out of the number of multi hundred deployments I have heard about, I think the couple you hear here and there are probably statistically insignificant overall. Doesn't help the specific users who are getting bit, but overall, I don't see enough to think there is an inherent problem. I agree -- I must admit I added the IAXy to pad out my argument -- my main beef is with the TDM4XXP card/driver. -A. ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: On December 23, 2004 02:31 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote: While I agree, I also must point out - TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems. I believe the FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around. Hopefully the same fix works. I think this is also a case of unprepared users and a not yet polished product. Only those doing small time to hobby deployments use those cards. You can't expect them to be as knowledgeable as the people deploying on PRIs. I think both aspects compound the trouble. Untrue. SOHO deployments would make very good use of this card, but I am speccing out T100Ps and channel banks (and all the costs associated with this setup) because these cards are not stable (yet). Being able to put a pair or even three TDM400Ps would be very beneficial to me, and I'm neither a hobby user nor unknowlegeable about the issues at hand. (At least I don't think I am unknowlegeable, perhaps I am?) Yes, and the attitude towards TDM400s coming from Digium and professionals in general does not help much to resolve issues with this card. Also, treating TDM400 as a hobbyist's toy is not helping to promote this card, while the whole setup considering the price and would-be-performance is unbelievable and has a great potential. Thank you, Andrei ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
I agree -- I must admit I added the IAXy to pad out my argument -- my main beef is with the TDM4XXP card/driver. Nonsense the IAXy not only has some driver / hardware issues but the feature set make it unuseable in profession corporate enviroments no echo can no cpu for std codec like g723/g729/ilbc, only pcm/ulaw No DNS, bootp only bad provisioning IAXy has no security Not configurable via http single port price point $99, (sipura 2 port 75us), or 1 port $64 ___ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
