Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-25 Thread mboehm
Quoting TC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > I agree -- I must admit I added the IAXy to "pad out" my argument -- my
> main
> > beef is with the TDM4XXP card/driver.
> Nonsense the IAXy not only has some driver / hardware issues but the feature
> set make it unuseable in profession corporate enviroments
> no echo can
> no cpu for std codec like g723/g729/ilbc, only pcm/ulaw
> No DNS, bootp only
> bad provisioning
> IAXy has no security
> Not configurable via http
> single port
> price point $99, (sipura 2 port 75us), or 1 port $64

Oh wow. I didn't know the IAXy lacked all those features. I can get a Linksys
PAP2-NA for $50 that has g729, dhcp, http config, echo can, etc..etc..I wanted
to use the IAXy in deployment to work around NAT issues using IAX but if the
hardware doesn't support some of the most basic features...

Matthew


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread TC
> I agree -- I must admit I added the IAXy to "pad out" my argument -- my
main
> beef is with the TDM4XXP card/driver.
Nonsense the IAXy not only has some driver / hardware issues but the feature
set make it unuseable in profession corporate enviroments
no echo can
no cpu for std codec like g723/g729/ilbc, only pcm/ulaw
No DNS, bootp only
bad provisioning
IAXy has no security
Not configurable via http
single port
price point $99, (sipura 2 port 75us), or 1 port $64

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Andrei (MPI)
Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
On December 23, 2004 02:31 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
 

While I agree, I also must point out
- TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems.  I believe
the FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around. 
Hopefully the same fix works.
 

I think this is also a case of unprepared users and a not yet polished
product. Only those doing small time to hobby deployments use those
cards. You can't expect them to be as knowledgeable as the people
deploying on PRIs. I think both aspects compound the trouble.
   

Untrue.  SOHO deployments would make very good use of this card, but I am 
speccing out T100Ps and channel banks (and all the costs associated with this 
setup) because these cards are not stable (yet).  Being able to put a pair or 
even three TDM400Ps would be very beneficial to me, and I'm neither a hobby 
user nor unknowlegeable about the issues at hand.  (At least I don't think I 
am unknowlegeable, perhaps I am?)
 

Yes, and the attitude towards TDM400s coming from Digium and 
professionals in general does not help much to resolve issues with this 
card.

Also, treating TDM400 as a hobbyist's toy is not helping to promote this 
card, while the whole setup considering the price and 
would-be-performance is unbelievable and has a great potential.

Thank you,
Andrei
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On December 23, 2004 02:31 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> > While I agree, I also must point out
> > - TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems.  I believe
> > the FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around. 
> > Hopefully the same fix works.

> I think this is also a case of unprepared users and a not yet polished
> product. Only those doing small time to hobby deployments use those
> cards. You can't expect them to be as knowledgeable as the people
> deploying on PRIs. I think both aspects compound the trouble.

Untrue.  SOHO deployments would make very good use of this card, but I am 
speccing out T100Ps and channel banks (and all the costs associated with this 
setup) because these cards are not stable (yet).  Being able to put a pair or 
even three TDM400Ps would be very beneficial to me, and I'm neither a hobby 
user nor unknowlegeable about the issues at hand.  (At least I don't think I 
am unknowlegeable, perhaps I am?)

> Out of the number of multi hundred deployments I have heard about, I
> think the couple you hear here and there are probably statistically
> insignificant overall. Doesn't help the specific users who are getting
> bit, but overall, I don't see enough to think there is an inherent
> problem.

I agree -- I must admit I added the IAXy to "pad out" my argument -- my main 
beef is with the TDM4XXP card/driver.

-A.
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RE: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Brian West
A lot of this has to do with the stupid linux kernel changing HDLC api time
after time after time.. I think at least 4 times thus far.  I think if you
use 2.4.18 kernel you'll be able to get it to work.

bkw

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-users-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steven Critchfield
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 1:32 PM
> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
> 
> On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 13:26 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> > On December 23, 2004 12:58 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> > > Maybe some of the users just aren't up to the task of getting the job
> > > done. My experience thus far has been very good. All the hardware with
> > > the exception of one which was in marginal at best pieces of equipment
> > > has performed perfectly and without fault.
> >
> > The T100P is generally good and the TE405P is solid, IMO.
> >
> > However we're not talking about audio and these cards.  :-)
> 
> I happen to know of at least one person doing mixed audio and data. I
> even have done ISDN dialup via ZapRAS when we had to prove it worked. I
> think it is as stated before, the free 1 hour of support is insufficient
> to help a mildly knowledgeable user through the setup.
> 
> > > I think some users need to have their assumptions and values checked
> to
> > > see how far from reality they are.
> >
> > While I agree, I also must point out
> > - TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems.  I believe
> the
> > FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around.
> Hopefully
> > the same fix works.
> 
> I think this is also a case of unprepared users and a not yet polished
> product. Only those doing small time to hobby deployments use those
> cards. You can't expect them to be as knowledgeable as the people
> deploying on PRIs. I think both aspects compound the trouble.
> 
> > - IAXy - I have no personal experience with this but the list has been
> showing
> > dead modules recently
> 
> Out of the number of multi hundred deployments I have heard about, I
> think the couple you hear here and there are probably statistically
> insignificant overall. Doesn't help the specific users who are getting
> bit, but overall, I don't see enough to think there is an inherent
> problem.
> --
> Steven Critchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Patrick Conroy
> # Next come the dynamic span definitions, in the form:
> # dynamic=,,,
> #
> # Where  is the name of the driver (e.g. eth),  is the
> # driver specific address (like a MAC for eth),  is the number
> # of channels, and  is a timing priority, like for a normal span.
> # use "0" to not use this as a timing source, or prioritize them as
> # primary, secondard, etc.  Note that you MUST have a REAL zaptel device
> # if you are not using external timing.
> #
> # dynamic=eth,eth0/00:02:b3:35:43:9c,24,0
> 
> The wiki doesn't say anything about this dynamic stuff. Any clues out there?
> Or can I just ignore it?
> 

I am pretty sure the dynamic stuff is for TDMoE, not data T1.

Patrick
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 13:26 -0500, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote:
> On December 23, 2004 12:58 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> > Maybe some of the users just aren't up to the task of getting the job
> > done. My experience thus far has been very good. All the hardware with
> > the exception of one which was in marginal at best pieces of equipment
> > has performed perfectly and without fault.
> 
> The T100P is generally good and the TE405P is solid, IMO.  
> 
> However we're not talking about audio and these cards.  :-)

I happen to know of at least one person doing mixed audio and data. I
even have done ISDN dialup via ZapRAS when we had to prove it worked. I
think it is as stated before, the free 1 hour of support is insufficient
to help a mildly knowledgeable user through the setup.  

> > I think some users need to have their assumptions and values checked to
> > see how far from reality they are.
> 
> While I agree, I also must point out
> - TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems.  I believe the 
> FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around.  Hopefully 
> the same fix works.

I think this is also a case of unprepared users and a not yet polished
product. Only those doing small time to hobby deployments use those
cards. You can't expect them to be as knowledgeable as the people
deploying on PRIs. I think both aspects compound the trouble.

> - IAXy - I have no personal experience with this but the list has been 
> showing 
> dead modules recently

Out of the number of multi hundred deployments I have heard about, I
think the couple you hear here and there are probably statistically
insignificant overall. Doesn't help the specific users who are getting
bit, but overall, I don't see enough to think there is an inherent
problem. 
-- 
Steven Critchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On December 23, 2004 12:58 pm, Steven Critchfield wrote:
> Maybe some of the users just aren't up to the task of getting the job
> done. My experience thus far has been very good. All the hardware with
> the exception of one which was in marginal at best pieces of equipment
> has performed perfectly and without fault.

The T100P is generally good and the TE405P is solid, IMO.  

However we're not talking about audio and these cards.  :-)

> I think some users need to have their assumptions and values checked to
> see how far from reality they are.

While I agree, I also must point out
- TDM400P - this card seems to be the #1 source of problems.  I believe the 
FXO module issues are solved but the FXS issues are still around.  Hopefully 
the same fix works.
- IAXy - I have no personal experience with this but the list has been showing 
dead modules recently

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 12:35 -0500, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote:
> At 11:52 AM 12/23/04, you wrote:
> >On December 23, 2004 11:14 am, TC wrote:
> > > but thats the bitch Mark has put years of blood & sweat into it,
> > > now as asterisk start to become much bigger than the single developer/co
> > > how do you divest
> > > that control in a fair/equitable  manner
> >
> >I agree with you on all points -- If Digium needs to make money on hardware
> >then they obviously need to get some decent hardware/driver design done --
> >What we have works for the most part but these ongoing problems and the
> >almost total lack of dialogue is a big issue which *does* hurt future sales.
> >
> >I like Digium.  I want to buy Digium.  But I won't if the support or quality
> >isn't there.  It's really that simple.  Digium's in a hard spot -- spend more
> >money to fix the issues and eat into current revenues, or deal with lower
> >future revenues.  I don't envy them.
> >
> >-A.
> 
> 
> If it aint broke, don't fix it... in this case, it's broke.

Maybe some of the users just aren't up to the task of getting the job
done. My experience thus far has been very good. All the hardware with
the exception of one which was in marginal at best pieces of equipment
has performed perfectly and without fault. 

I currently have a T400P and a T100P in production use and they have
been running non stop for months on end with out a single hardware
related fault nor a single asterisk bug.

I have had a T100P flake out before, but it was in some electrically
difficult environment and on marginal(via) hardware. 

Our enjoyment of the stability has prompted us to buy a TE410P and
another T100P for growth and redundancy.

I think some users need to have their assumptions and values checked to
see how far from reality they are.
-- 
Steven Critchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
At 11:52 AM 12/23/04, you wrote:
On December 23, 2004 11:14 am, TC wrote:
> but thats the bitch Mark has put years of blood & sweat into it,
> now as asterisk start to become much bigger than the single developer/co
> how do you divest
> that control in a fair/equitable  manner
I agree with you on all points -- If Digium needs to make money on hardware
then they obviously need to get some decent hardware/driver design done --
What we have works for the most part but these ongoing problems and the
almost total lack of dialogue is a big issue which *does* hurt future sales.
I like Digium.  I want to buy Digium.  But I won't if the support or quality
isn't there.  It's really that simple.  Digium's in a hard spot -- spend more
money to fix the issues and eat into current revenues, or deal with lower
future revenues.  I don't envy them.
-A.

If it aint broke, don't fix it... in this case, it's broke.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Steven Critchfield
On Thu, 2004-12-23 at 11:24 -0600, Matthew Boehm wrote:
> What I am confused about the most is this section in /etc/zaptel.conf:
> 
> # Next come the dynamic span definitions, in the form:
> # dynamic=,,,
> #
> # Where  is the name of the driver (e.g. eth),  is the
> # driver specific address (like a MAC for eth),  is the number
> # of channels, and  is a timing priority, like for a normal span.
> # use "0" to not use this as a timing source, or prioritize them as
> # primary, secondard, etc.  Note that you MUST have a REAL zaptel device
> # if you are not using external timing.
> #
> # dynamic=eth,eth0/00:02:b3:35:43:9c,24,0
> 
> The wiki doesn't say anything about this dynamic stuff. Any clues out there?
> Or can I just ignore it?

The dynamic stuff is about using tdm over ethernet. I'm pretty sure it
is covered, but I don't feel like looking it up. I still don't see much
of a benefit to it over using IAX2 and trunking.
-- 
Steven Critchfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Matthew Boehm
What I am confused about the most is this section in /etc/zaptel.conf:

# Next come the dynamic span definitions, in the form:
# dynamic=,,,
#
# Where  is the name of the driver (e.g. eth),  is the
# driver specific address (like a MAC for eth),  is the number
# of channels, and  is a timing priority, like for a normal span.
# use "0" to not use this as a timing source, or prioritize them as
# primary, secondard, etc.  Note that you MUST have a REAL zaptel device
# if you are not using external timing.
#
# dynamic=eth,eth0/00:02:b3:35:43:9c,24,0

The wiki doesn't say anything about this dynamic stuff. Any clues out there?
Or can I just ignore it?

Thanks,
Matthew

- Original Message - 
From: "Listas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"

Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth


> I tried to configure a TE110XP using HDLC (mainly to see if it worked) I
> called the guys at Digium because HDLC support is not natively compiled,
> they told me that HDLC was not covered in the free support provided with
the
> card, I had to rebuildl the kernel but as I had not that much time
available
> to play with the Cisco swith which was the E1 connection I had to end the
> test there, however there is some info in:
>
>
http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Data%20Configuration
>
> I also read some of the posts in the lists like
> http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-May/047704.html
>
> http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-May/000545.html
>
> hope this helps...
>
> bye,
> M.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Matthew Boehm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:37 PM
> Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
>
>
> > Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data
> modes,
> > digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I
must
> > turn to the list.
> >
> > Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is
there
> a
> > HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of
public
> > IPs I can assign to it but don't know how.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matthew
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Matthew A. Nicholson via RT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:38 AM
> > Subject: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
> >
> >
> > > Yes the hardware, and our drivers suppport both voice and data modes,
> > > but because of the nature of the configuration we do not support it.
> > > Configuring one of our T1 cards for data mode often requires a kernel
> > > recompile, and extensive network device configuration.  Here at Digium
> > > our speciality is telephony not networking, this is why we do not
> > > support the data mode of our hardware.
> > >
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed Dec 22 17:16:29 2004]:
> > > >
> > > > I dont mean to sound like a jerk but it says quite clearly on your
> > website
> > > > (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=wildcard_t100p) that this card
> > does
> > > > both Voice and Data. Why would you guys tell me that the card
supports
> > > data
> > > > but not support data config yourself? They are your cards right?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Matthew
> > > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Matthew A. Nicholson
> > > Digium
> >
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On December 23, 2004 11:14 am, TC wrote:
> but thats the bitch Mark has put years of blood & sweat into it,
> now as asterisk start to become much bigger than the single developer/co
> how do you divest
> that control in a fair/equitable  manner

I agree with you on all points -- If Digium needs to make money on hardware 
then they obviously need to get some decent hardware/driver design done -- 
What we have works for the most part but these ongoing problems and the 
almost total lack of dialogue is a big issue which *does* hurt future sales.

I like Digium.  I want to buy Digium.  But I won't if the support or quality 
isn't there.  It's really that simple.  Digium's in a hard spot -- spend more 
money to fix the issues and eat into current revenues, or deal with lower 
future revenues.  I don't envy them.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
At 11:17 AM 12/23/04, you wrote:
On December 23, 2004 10:59 am, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote:
> I spoke with a fellow, (can't remember his name, but had a british accent,
> there
> are only about 10 folks working there) at sangoma, and he specifically said
> the
> sangoma card will only work with a pri t1 (24channel isdn) not with a data
> line.
That's David -- I have used Sangoma T1 cards for strictly data (no PRI, this
was Frame Relay) for years -- perhaps not the A101u then but they do have T1
cards that do data.
Yes David.  The card I was discussing with him was the A100
g
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Listas
I tried to configure a TE110XP using HDLC (mainly to see if it worked) I
called the guys at Digium because HDLC support is not natively compiled,
they told me that HDLC was not covered in the free support provided with the
card, I had to rebuildl the kernel but as I had not that much time available
to play with the Cisco swith which was the E1 connection I had to end the
test there, however there is some info in:

http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20Data%20Configuration

I also read some of the posts in the lists like
http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-May/047704.html

http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2003-May/000545.html

hope this helps...

bye,
M.
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From: "Matthew Boehm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 12:37 PM
Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth


> Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data
modes,
> digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must
> turn to the list.
>
> Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is there
a
> HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of public
> IPs I can assign to it but don't know how.
>
> Thanks,
> Matthew
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Matthew A. Nicholson via RT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 23, 2004 10:38 AM
> Subject: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth
>
>
> > Yes the hardware, and our drivers suppport both voice and data modes,
> > but because of the nature of the configuration we do not support it.
> > Configuring one of our T1 cards for data mode often requires a kernel
> > recompile, and extensive network device configuration.  Here at Digium
> > our speciality is telephony not networking, this is why we do not
> > support the data mode of our hardware.
> >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Wed Dec 22 17:16:29 2004]:
> > >
> > > I dont mean to sound like a jerk but it says quite clearly on your
> website
> > > (http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=wildcard_t100p) that this card
> does
> > > both Voice and Data. Why would you guys tell me that the card supports
> > data
> > > but not support data config yourself? They are your cards right?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matthew
> > >
> >
> > -- 
> > Matthew A. Nicholson
> > Digium
>
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On December 23, 2004 10:59 am, Greg - Cirelle Enterprises wrote:
> I spoke with a fellow, (can't remember his name, but had a british accent,
> there
> are only about 10 folks working there) at sangoma, and he specifically said
> the
> sangoma card will only work with a pri t1 (24channel isdn) not with a data
> line.

That's David -- I have used Sangoma T1 cards for strictly data (no PRI, this 
was Frame Relay) for years -- perhaps not the A101u then but they do have T1 
cards that do data.

-A.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread TC
> On December 23, 2004 10:37 am, Matthew Boehm wrote:
> > Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data
modes,
> > digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I
must
> > turn to the list.
>
> If Digium won't support it return the card and get a Sangoma A101u, it's
> approximately the same price and they've been doing HDLC/data T1s for damn
> near a decade.
>
> I am a fan of Digium but I am quickly growing tired of the lack of
> responsiveness from them on their hardware.  Software wise I have *zero*
> complaints but the story is quite different when it comes to hardware
> support.  :-(
And thats funny since I am led to believe most of their revenue
stream comes from hardware & they have the problematic TDM FXS/FXO cards
and the non functional IAXy,
... and soon there will be  DSP based T1 cards  and we dont hear any
announcements
to add real hardware echo can's to their product offering

AND where they excel is in asterisk software development but they are in a
conflict of interest there being the hardware vendor, in some instances they
wont list on the
asterisk site some of these other hardware vendors (ie sangoma)
one wonders how long you can go on as the dictator of OSS software whist
being
the defacto hardware supplier that controls the software site ...

It sure would level the playing field if at some point down the line if
asterisk dev was run more
like the apache project with software dev independent of the hardware
interests...
and the hardware providers get out and compete on price/performance alone...
this sure would get Digium focused :)

but thats the bitch Mark has put years of blood & sweat into it,
now as asterisk start to become much bigger than the single developer/co how
do you divest
that control in a fair/equitable  manner

...let the flames begin


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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Patrick Conroy
> Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is there a
> HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of public
> IPs I can assign to it but don't know how.

Matthew,

I fought with this for quite a while, too.  I feel your pain.  There
is a wiki page that gives pretty good info:

http://voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+data+configuration

The biggest issue that I had was building the right version of the
kernel.  I have done this a few times now, and my recommendation would
be Fedora Core 2 (2.6.8) kernel rebuilt with HDLC.  Just so you, since
you are talking data only, if you are setting up a separate box as a
T1 router, you don't need to install asterisk at all.  You only need
zaptel for data mode.  Let me know if you run into any more trouble. 
I would be happy to send you the .config for my kernel or answer any
questions that come up.

Hope this helps,
Patrick
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
At 10:43 AM 12/23/04, you wrote:
On December 23, 2004 10:37 am, Matthew Boehm wrote:
> Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes,
> digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must
> turn to the list.
If Digium won't support it return the card and get a Sangoma A101u, it's
approximately the same price and they've been doing HDLC/data T1s for damn
near a decade.
I am a fan of Digium but I am quickly growing tired of the lack of
responsiveness from them on their hardware.  Software wise I have *zero*
complaints but the story is quite different when it comes to hardware
support.  :-(
-A.

I spoke with a fellow, (can't remember his name, but had a british accent, 
there
are only about 10 folks working there) at sangoma, and he specifically said 
the
sangoma card will only work with a pri t1 (24channel isdn) not with a data 
line.

regards
greg
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Greg - Cirelle Enterprises
At 10:37 AM 12/23/04, you wrote:
Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes,
digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must
turn to the list.
Has anyone configured a T100P to use a T1 strictly as bandwidth? Is there a
HOWTO somewhere? Wiki has nothing I could find. I've got plently of public
IPs I can assign to it but don't know how.
Thanks,
Matthew

I've gone round and round with them on this.
From what I understand, the card will only work with a pri type t1 not
a data line unless you have a device that will emulate that configuration.
(same with the sangoma card by the way) only sangoma will tell you that.
If you are thinking of a return on this card, They will tell you the loopback
works so the card is ok, no return.
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Re: [Asterisk-Users] Fw: [digium.com #12961] T100P as bandwidth

2004-12-23 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On December 23, 2004 10:37 am, Matthew Boehm wrote:
> Even though they make the cards and advertise that they support data modes,
> digium won't support data mode on the $500 card they sold to me, so I must
> turn to the list.

If Digium won't support it return the card and get a Sangoma A101u, it's 
approximately the same price and they've been doing HDLC/data T1s for damn 
near a decade.

I am a fan of Digium but I am quickly growing tired of the lack of 
responsiveness from them on their hardware.  Software wise I have *zero* 
complaints but the story is quite different when it comes to hardware 
support.  :-(

-A.
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