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Re: Audio labelers Dark, If you are curious to know which Pen Friend you have.I found some text instruction on the Internet for Pen Friend that described a Pen Friend different from what I have, I believe it's a description of the original Pen Friend.If your Pen Friend has two jacks on one side with no rubber flap to cover them, then you probably have the Pen Friend 2 as I do. These instructions described the Pen Friend as having three jacks on one side, covered by a rubber flap. The third jack is for an external microphone.These instructions also didn't mention the replaceable memory card underneath the batteries, so I believe the memory in the original Pen Friend wasn't expandable.Although the instructions recommended getting sighted help to swap out the memory card in the Pen Friend, I found it fairly easy to do myself. You do need pretty nimble fingers though, the memory card is smaller than the finger nail on your pinky finger, so you are dealing with a tiny memory card that goes into a tiny socket, in a cramped space. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=225917#p225917 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers No, I'd guess not.I just checked, mine shows up as a flash drive too. It has three folders, ap4, mp3, and rec. Easy enough to figure out without instructions or software.Since I don't need it, I'm uninstalling the software.I'd be really curious to know what kind of technology these the Pen Friend uses to identify the stickers. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224969#p224969 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers It's entirely possible I have the original, I've had it a few years, possibly as many as five so it wouldn't surprise me if there is a newer model. Yep, windows just recognizes the penfriend as a standard usb flash drive, indeed the instructions particularly noted which folder to back up labels with. To be honest if the software's "advanced mode" is inaccessible and all the basic mode does is backup labels I don't exactly think I'm missing much . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224962#p224962 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers I agree about labeling the sticker sets, it wouldn't have taken any more work than the instruction dots on the Pen Friend's box did. Oh well, one sticker out of around 400, less than a minute to record a label, done.That's interesting that your instructions don't mention the management software, but then I have a thought. How long have you had your Pen Friend? The one they are selling now they call the Pen Friend 2 and they say its new. I can't find when it was introduced, I'm thinking that you might have the original while I have the newer version and the management software didn't exist until the newer one was introduced. In fact I think I remember the information about the management software saying that it only worked with the Pen Friend 2.Anyway, from what you say, it sounds like the Pen Friend appears to the computer like a flash drive, if that's true, I'll skip the software and just use Windows to backup my la bel data.Please don't ask me what the differences are between the original and the new version because I don't have the foggiest notion, though from what you've said, they sound very similar, so the differences are probably minor. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224959#p224959 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers Funny, the instructions I have just say to backup the rec folder for storing backups of the labels. Typical rnib thinking however as far as sighted assistance goes. Not impossible I'll always just ask a friend of mine next time I see one of them, it just seems quite stupid to have a device that audio labels things and not then label the bloody packets . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224930#p224930 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers You are right about both, but then maybe nobody thought of something so obvious.For what it's worth, the actual manufacturer of Pen Friend is Mantra Lingua, I suspect that RNIB simply looked at what was available and chose what they thought was the best. Based on what I've seen of three labeling systems, I'd have to agree.What I ended up doing is using a lanyard to hang the Pen Friend on the side of my kitchen cupboard, which puts it in a central location, it's quick and easy to grab when I need it, yet safe from being damaged or lost.Whew! It turns out I did get label sets A and B. KNFB Reader apparently saw "Set A" as "Set F" which is unusual because it is usually pretty accurate.I should have been more clear. The label management software has two modes, basic and advanced. Basic is intended and designed for use by blind and visually impaired users and just backs up and restores your label data to and from the Pen Friend. The advanced mode allows you to manage the label data on an individual label basis. Other than to remove unwanted or unneeded labels, I'm not sure what else it can do. They also have software for creating specialized labels, such as those attached to pages in a book for something like a read-a-long.http://www.mantralingua.com/penfriend/ URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224836#p224836 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers You are right about both, but then maybe nobody thought of something so obvious.For what it's worth, the actual manufacturer of Pen Friend is Mantra Lingua, I suspect that RNIB simply looked at what was available and chose what they thought was the best. Based on what I've seen of three labeling systems, I'd have to agree.Wht I ended up doing is using a lanyard to hang the Pen Friend on the side of my kitchen cupboard, which puts it in a central location, it's quick and easy to grab when I need it, yet safe from being damaged.I should have been more clear. The label management software has two modes, basic and advanced. Basic is intended and designed for use by blind and visually impared users and just backs up and restores you label data to and from the Pen Friend. The advanced mode allows you to manage the label data on a label by label basis. Other than to remove unwanted or unneeded labels, I'm not sure what else it can do. T hey They also have software for creating specialized labels, such as those attached to pages in a book for something like a read-along.http://www.mantralingua.com/penfriend/ URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224836#p224836 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers I didn't even know there was! label management software, though to be honest any product design for blind people that says "get sighted help" rings alarm bells for me, bad design pure and simple. similarly, why the hell with an audio labelling device which already contains the instructions on the packets did they not include letter labels on each pack? Come on each pack? I probably will just ask someone, but it still seems a silly point of design, then again you can't have everything. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224826#p224826 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers Mystery solved, that round depression near the USB port is a headphone jack.Do you use the label management software? If so have you ever tried to use the advanced mode? According the the information I found on the software, they recommend getting sighted help to use the advanced mode because it doesn't work with screen readers. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224790#p224790 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers If you have one, you might try an OCR scanning program or app to read the label on the Pen Friend label packs.I used KNFB Reader to check the packs immediately because I wanted to store them in alphabetical order.If KNFB Reader is too pricey for you, there are several free OCR scanning apps for the iPhone and I'm sure there are some for Android as well.Be careful though, unlike KNFB Reader where your document is processed right there on your device, most free OCR scanning apps simply send the picture of the document to be scanned to a server for processing, so there may be privacy issues there. That is the one thing that makes KNFB Reader worth the $100 it costs.Here's a idea, since you don't like or can't use the larger square labels, use one of them to label the label pack once you know which letter it is.I also plan to keep a text file on my computer that tell me which label pack I'm using and which ones I've alre ady used. I guess you could also store that information on a label like you do your bank information. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224724#p224724 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers No idea what the port is. I know at one time the penfriend was planned to interface with some devices (from the rnib over here), but I don't think that materialized, I don't know if the port was added for that reason. Bringing up the packs you do bring up a good point, sinse I actually don't know which letter pack I have. I have one where I've used up all the round labels and just have some of the square ones, and another I'm using, plus a spare one I bought just in case, but sinse the letters on the packs are only in print and there isn't a record on the machine or in braille or by pen friend label on the pack itself, I'll probably have to get someone to read me what letter a given pack is which is a miner pest, unless there is a way to tell by looking at the label files themselves, though I've not noticed such a thing yet, the numerical names they're given are sort of a bit random. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224711#p224711 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers @Dark;Thank you for your input on the Pen Friend, I just got it and am impressed.The lanyard that comes with it is too long and I don't like the way it attaches to the Pen Friend, but that's Ok, I have a lanyard I can use with it that will be ideal.The big surprize was that its memory is expandable from the 4 GB it comes with up to 16 GB by simply replacing the microHD flash memory card underneath the batteries. I'm not sure I'll need it, but I'll probably go ahead and max out its memory, that way I know I'll never run out of memory, according to Mantra Lingua, 16 GB should provide about 500 hours of audio storage. Plenty of room!A question: Next to the port for the USB cable, there is a round depression that isn't mentioned in the audio documentation, do you know what it is?I really should quit using Maxi-Aids, besides getting the dimensions of the Pen Friend wrong by measuring the plastic box it comes in inste ad of the device itself, I ordered label sets A and B when I ordered the Pen Friend, they sent me label sets B and F. I'm sending back label set F and insisting they send the ordered label set A.In one year and five or six orders, at least three of the orders had mistakes made by their people, then to make matters worse, they are very reluctant to accept returns. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224680#p224680 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers @Dark;Thank you for your input on the Pen Friend, I just got it and am impressed.The lanyard that comes with it is too long and I don't like the way it attaches to the Pen Friend, but that's Ok, I have a lanyard I can use with it that will be ideal.The big surprize was that its memory is expandable from the 4 GB it comes with up to 16 GB by simply replacing the microHD flash memory card underneath the batteries. I'm not sure I'll need it, but I'll probably go ahead and max out its memory, that way I know I'll never run out of memory, according to Mantra Lingua, 16 GB should provide about 500 hours of audio storage. Plenty!I really should quit using Maxi-Aids, besides getting the dimensions of the Pen Friend wrong by measuring the plastic box it comes in, I ordered label sets A and B when I ordered the Pen Friend, they sent me label sets B and F. I'm sending back label set F and insisting they send the ordered label set A.In one year and five or six orders, at least three of the orders had mistakes made by their people, then to make matters worse, they are very reluctant to accept returns. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224680#p224680 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers @Dark;Thank you for your input on the Pen Friend, I just got it and am impressed. The lanyard that comes with it is too long and I don't like the way it attaches to the Pen Friend, but that's Ok, I have a lanyard I can use with it that will be ideal.I really should quit using Masi-Aids, besides getting the dimensions of the Pen Friend wrong by measuring the plastic box it comes in, I ordered label sets A and B when I ordered the Pen Friend, they sent me label sets B and F. I'm sending back label set F and insisting they send the ordered label set A.In one year and five or six orders, at least three of the orders had mistakes made by their people, then to make matters worse, they are very reluctant to accept returns. I don't think I'll patronize them any more. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224680#p224680 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers To each his own. I'm currently in that situation where I have to go to another room to get my label reader, its annoying and create unnecessary leg work.I may eventually get a credit card, but its a low priority since what I'm doing has worked for over fifteen years with only the one problem at the one bank. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224169#p224169 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers I'm not really a fan of dangling lanyards, I prefer to keep my penfriend in the box in the draw of my desc until i need to read something with it.As to cards, I might do the debit thing if my bank's credit card wasn't so easy to pay off avoiding interest, but as it is I'm quite happy with how it's worked thus far. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224112#p224112 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers Yes, debit cards are tied directly to your bank account, however; if you detect a fraudulent charge, the money is put back within 24 hours. One of the things my bank allows me to do is set the limits on the debit card through their online banking site, I keep its limits low to minimize any damage a fraudster might do. I'll raise them when I'm going to make a large purchase, then lower it again once the purchase has been made and paid.It's a little less convenient, but I put my DVD and CD labels inside the box or jewel case, that way the look of the case isn't marred. though as small as the circles are, they would be barely noticeable on the outside. I can always find other uses for the larger squares. At least the packs seem to be 80% small circles and 20% large squares. It'd be worse if they were hafl small and half large labels.I ordered the Pen Friend and label packs A and B, that should keep me supplied a good long while. The store was ou t of the magnetic labels, so I'll either have to find them somewhere else or wait for them to get more of them.I like the idea of the lanyard, as small and light as the Pen Friend sounds, I can wear it around my neck and so have it with me whenever I might need it. Right now, whenever I need to read a label, I have to go get the VoxCom device, its rather big to have on you all the time. The Voila reader is better in that its pen shaped rather than a box like the VoxCom, but its big, about the size and weight of an electric toothbrush from 20 or more years ago. I wouldn't want to wear either of those around my neck all day. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224087#p224087 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers With my credit card, it's actually a credit card with my bank, which is one reason it's easy to pay off and check charges with. I would only be charged interest the month ending the month after I made my payment, so effectively anywhere between about 30 and 60 days, and sinse I pay my credit card off at the bank which is five minutes around the corner (or will be up until the end of August, thanks to those douchebastards), this isn't an issue, one reason I had to get the telephone banking fixed. I don't actually think I've ever! been charged interest at all.As to online, well I prefer to be safe with the credit card and keep my banking off the internet as much as humanly possible, sinse even if someone did! attempt credit card fraud, and even if they did! go below my low spending limit, well I'd still be able to cancel the payment, as opposed to a debit which goes streight out of your account.Pluss of course, there are occasions a cr edit card is just necessary for online payment such as kickstarter. I don't actually stick labels around my flat, which is why I might have to warn the cleaning service, especially sinse they're a new service that I've just started with, previously it was done by my down stairs neighbor but she's been ill. Medication is a good suggestion, however sinse most of my medication are eye drops anyway switching tops wouldn't be a good idea generally, I use coloured hair bands wrapped around the bottles instead, though if I ever lost my vision I could always make some little sleaves to stick the lables on.Likewise in terms of vision, because one thing I like for dvds are the aesthetic boxes, that is why I'm not keen on the larger lables, though I'm sure I will find other uses for them occasionally, as I did with my bank details. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224073#p224073 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers If the housekeeping service sends the same people out to you every time, just tell them they aren't garbage and to just leave them there. However; if they've seen those dots all around your place, and they are of reasonable intelligence, they should realize you put them there intentionally and leave them alone.I don't have any credit cards by choice, the credit card companies over here are vultures just looking for ways to catch you in the credit card trap, I won't give them the opening. Though I have thought about getting one with a very low spending limit that I could pay off each month to avoid the interest charges and to put a buffer between my money and the outside world. But as time keeps going by and I never have any problems with fraudulent charges, I decide that I don't really need it. And I do online shopping with my debit card and do online banking with my bank. I've come to the conclusion that if you use a little common sense along with some caution where appropriate, you can enjoy the conveniences modern technology has to offer with minimal risk. I'm not saying you don't use common sense, just that that is all it takes to remain safe in anh increasingly online world.There was one period about a year long where I did have problems with fraudulent charges appearing in my account. It turned out the bank wasn't as secure as they thought they were because the problems occurred only while I was banking with that bank, there were no problems before or after that one bank. I didn't like that bank anyway and never applied for accounts with them in the first place. I ended up having accounts with them because they bought out a bank I was using. I was so annoyed when the announcement was released.A thought I had about labeling prescription bottles. Don't put the label on the bottle, instead put the label on the cap. Then when you get refills in a new bottle, just put the labeled ca p on the new bottle. That is what I'll be doing, when needed. Right now all my prescriptions use pills that are different sizes and shapes, so I can identify them by their pills.If you haven't figured this out already, the labels in each lettered pack are coded differently from those in other labeled pack. Once you buy and start using a particular letter, you aren't supposed to buy another pack of the same letter as the Pen Friend will see them as the same as the original pack. So as needed, they can just keep releasing new packs continuing up the alphabet as they do.For the different sized labels, the way around that is to use the largest label that can be conveniently used. Such as, the large squares would work fine in DVD and CD cases, there's plenty of room to accomodate them. The small circles are small enough to go on something small like the cap of a pill bottle.Between the Colorino color identifier and being able to feel the dif ferences in my articles of clothing, I haven't needed to use any special labels for my clothes, so I'll pass on the laundry labels.And I will get a set of magnetic labels, I can stick them on the refridgerator and use them to make notes to myself.You were lucky in that you found the Pen Friend first. I unfortunately didn't find it until I'd tried two other labeling systems first. Oh well, live and learn. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224061#p224061 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers Lol, that website are morons! actually the plastic case is rather handy and is something I've kept, sinse it also stores the usb lead and instructions rather nicely, but it is way bigger than the device itself. With my bank, it's that I didn't want to have my actual account details on my computer if i could help it. That's why I have a credit card tied into my paypal account, (and a credit card with as low a borrowing limit as I can).Unfortunately, sinse it won't be as easy for me to get to the bank itself sinse those greedy corporate drone bots are closing my local branch this leaves me with telephone banking (I'm not going to do it online for aforesaid reason), so I'll need access to my sort code and account number in a hurry, as well as the telephone security number the bank setup (yes it gets crazy).I was considering getting these brailled but trying to read braille with one hand and push numbers into a phone keypad with the other is not fun, so the penfriend idea came up. I just hope my cleaning service doesn't think all the little bits of white paper stuck to the underside of my desc are rubbish .Actually up until a few years ago, I'd have said braille was still necessary for instant labelling, now with the penfriend I'm not quite so sure. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=224044#p224044 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers @IronCross32;YeOuch! For my needs, I can't justify spending $1,200 to $1,300 for a bar code scanner. Even though I could easily afford it.@Dark;Yeah, it's better to label the cases rather than the DVDs or CDs themselves, as fast as they spin, putting a label on them would unbalance them.True, the only way anyone could get your bank information from those labels is if they got ahold of your personal Pen Friend, since it is in the device itself your label messages are stored. All the labels do is provide a number to assign the message to. A friend could put his own Pen Friend near your labels, but what they'd get is their own messages, not yours.Here's a laugh, at one of the store web sites I looked at for the Pen Friend, for the dimensions of the device , they give you the dimensions of the box it comes in. LOL! Idiots! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=223940#p223940 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers @IronCross32;YeOuch! For my needs, I can't justify spending $1,200 to $1,300 for a bar code scanner. Even though I could easily afford it.@Dark;True, the only way anyone could get your bank information from those labels is if they got ahold of your personal Pen Friend, since it is in the device itself your label messages are stored. All the labels do is provide a number to assign the message to. A friend could put his own Pen Friend near your labels, but what they'd get is their own messages, not yours.Here's a laugh, at one of the store web sites I looked at for the Pen Friend, for the dimensions of the device , they give you the dimensions of the box it comes in. LOL! Idiots! URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=223940#p223940 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers I am a fan of the Penfriend, but I admit I didn't consider or look around at other devices. I find the sensor pickup on labels is particularly good and I like the fact that the labels are small enough to say stick in the corner of a dvd box so you can label where each disc goes (I don't label the discs themselves sinse I'm not sure what the labels would do, but labelling the box is just as effective). to answer your question about the instructions, the pen friend comes in a rather nice travle box and the instructions are actually contained on pre recorded pen friend labels in that box, as well as being a dstnadard text file. I know that using the labelling machine to read the instructions on how to use the labelling machine seems redundent to the point of insanity, but it actually isn't, indeed if I remember rightly when you first switch the machine on by default an instructional file will play on how to play the instructions which will also tell you the basics of making labels.I wouldn't really use the penfriend for disposable labels on tins or medication or anything I want to throw away after use, particularly because though the labels can be backed up on computer, actually fidning what file is what is dam difficult sinse it doesn't give them sensible numeric names, so it'd be quite hard to delete, plus I don't know how the machine handles label priority.The only two things that are a miner issue with the penfriend are firstly you can't choose your label size, so I've got loads of the larger size ones that I've just never found a use for, (they're about the size of a credit card as you said and way too big for me to want to muck up my dvds with them), and you can't choose what new packs of labels you buy or new types, you just get lumbered with a pack containing both the large and the small sorts, so if you don't use the large ones your wasting cash. The only other thing I don't like is that a couple of opperations in the machine seem specifically designed to be done slowly. For example to turn on and off, you need to push and hold the on button for about a quarter second, and though reccording is fairly simple given that you hold the reccord buttonn point the machine at the label and wait for the ping, the recording doesn't actually start again until about a quarter second after the ping, meaning that frequently I needed to re reccord labels because the first syllable got chopped off. I have a sneaking suspicion that this was done for those slow fumble fingered blindies, but I'm not sure. this is however a miner annoyence in something I'm generally amazingly pleased with, indeed I love the fact that all my cds, dvds and games are so easy to label, and also that unlike with braille i can get as much information as I like onto a label which takes up a tiny physical space, so if I want to say &quo t;The hobbit the desolation of Smaug special addition disc 3, appendices part 9 making the dragon, costumes and realizing the battle" I can do .Also, despite aforesaid moanings, applying labels is very quick. I employed a friend of mine who also served as my research assistant, and in less than half an hour we were able to get done all 7 series of Buffy the Vampire slayer and all 5 series of Angel, each series containing six disks, (she reading the discs, me sticking on and speaking labels).Actually, sinse my bank is closing their closest branch to me and I'm going to need to telephone bank, I'm going to stick my bank details on penfriend labels and attach them to my desc, well nobody will be able to read them and it'll be much more secure than on a text file on my computer . URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=223935#p223935 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers I do something like that now, I'd been using Red Laser on my iPhone for grocery items, because they usually will have their UPC codes on them, but I have since discovered Digit-Eyes, the big difference between the two is that the database Digit-Eyes uses has more detailed information like cooking instructions. Red Laser seems more interested in telling me where I can buy it for less where Digit-Eyes seems more interested in telling me everything there is to know about it. I use the UPC scan to identify items as I put them away, that way I'll know what's what by where it is.I try not to use these labels on consumables, that would burn through labels pretty quickly.I have thought about getting a dedicated UPC scanner, simply for higher performance, sometimes it can be a real test of your patience to get either iPhone app to see a UPC and scan it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=223932#p223932 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Audio labelers
Re: Audio labelers I do something like that know, I'd been using Red Laser on my iPhone for grocery items, because they usually will have their UPC codes on them, but I have since discovered Digit-Eyes, the big difference between the two is that the database Digit-Eyes uses has more detailed information like cooking instructions. Red Laser seems more interested in telling where can buy it for less where Digit-Eyes seems more interested in telling everything there is to know about it. I use the UPC scan to identify items as I put them away, that way I'll know what's what by where it is.I try not to use these labels on consumables, that would burn through labels pretty quickly.I have thought about getting a dedicated UPC scanner, simply for higher performance, sometimes it can be a real test of your patience to get either iPhone app to see a UPC and scan it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=223932#p223932 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: Audio labelers Well its all about what you need, for example I'd try to score a barcode reader like the ID Mate quest or the summit, reason being is that way, it contains a huge database and all you have o do is scan it and read through. For food items, it gives cooking instructions and nutritional facts and all the relevant stuff. I know it does CDs and DVDs too, It will do off the shelf pills or tablets, but for prescriptions, you need something else. I've never owned one, but from the demonstrations I have heard, it works quite well. Also no labels to keep track of. Maybe a combination of the two would work for you. Use the audio labels on stuff that never changes. and use the barcode reader for food and other stuff. It also will read UPC codes I think. It does a lot. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=223910#p223910 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
