Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? Hi.Hmm yeah, good point. In fact I due hope that as you said, episode 8 is not a general fluff and romance movie.But to be quite honest, I think that after episode 6, they should have stopped making starwars films. Because come on, this is just to get more money out of an already big genre, and well, as we have seen it before, this might just fail in a way that noone want's to watch those movies anymore.Also something i really don't like is that disney announced that all the timelines that independend authors brought up are now not valid anymore and the only timeline that still has a right to exist is the one that disney produces.Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=292098#p292098 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? @Simba, I didnt' look at any teasers or anything before seeing the film, but to be honest that's not an excuse anyway. Even the most renowned action films you can think of, indiana jones, Terminator, robo cop (or at least the first one), had some sort of point along side their action, rather than just throwing huge amounts of action at the screen and missing off characters, plot, logic, and indeed telling a good story. hell, films like saving private ryan are set during the war and especially exist to show! good characters and such to give the action a sense of purpose. So, even if billed as a war film, that's not an excuse. As I said, it's not that I'm against action sequences, it's just when action sequences take over the hole story and you lose everything else that gives the story point. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=292081#p292081 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? Hi.At dark ok, maybe the movie was differently teaserd in germany and the UK, because it was alredady announced tthat this is more of a war film and action flick than an actuall plot highlight.Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=292075#p292075 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? Hmm, I didn't know that. I do remember the few I tried varied quite a lot in quality, especially when authors tried to create characters who were sooo much better than the original cast, for example I recall one where there was another of alpatine's apprentices who was a reptile, and a cyborg, and a prince of a random planet, and had two light sabers, and made darth vader look pathetic! it was a bit too much. Then again even in the big finish stories there have been similar excesses, and as I said I can see the point if things tie together. I did really enjoy shadow hunter, whichw as set shortly before phantom menice and basically just had the plot that darth mawl is really, really scary! . Getting back to the films, the trek ones actually disappointed me for removing so much, indeed I'd much rather see a new film with picard and crusher and the characters I like from next gen, or even a ds9 film than some alternative kirk thing, but of course if they do a reboot they can throw canon out of the window, just like #Steven mophat did with the cracks in time and retconning the entire plot of the previous 7 series of doctor who (he's not getting off the hook for that one). URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=292001#p292001 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? Yeah, I'm not a fan of the new Trek movies either.It's similar with the Star Wars books though. they had to make it all tie in, and lucasfilm was in charge of the overall direction of the books so they are all at least easy enough to follow. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291980#p291980 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? @Simba, I don't know what you mean by "teaser more action film" It certainly is part of the starwars plot since it leads directly into A new hope, though it isn't about the main starwars cast such as Luke, Han, etc. To be honest though that's not really an excuse for making a film with far too little plot s opposed to action, indeed it does make me worry for episode 8 given that The force awakens was sort of pure fluf, aleit entertaining fluff, but nothing with much substance and far too many questions, eg, where did that new evil empire come from? Why has random witch lady got Luke's light saber? and wasn't Darth vader's helmet burned on Endor? @Drumbs6`1, I can see why missing out all the extended universe books got on your wick. I'll confess it didn't bother me as much since I haven't really checked those out, since I find the majority of novels produced from tv series or the like to be a bit disappointing and often a little directionless one reason I like the fact the big finish doctor who audio dramas have a main producer who is able to curb some of the writer's excesses, though even those go a bit too far off the rails on occasion. I don't think it would've been as bad if they gave us a little more by way of interesting backstory and the like in the actual films, but there was far too much "because it is!" eg, where the first order came from, who this snoke guy is etc.Then again Abrams is no respector of other peole's plot, look at his copout alternative timeline excuse for the new trek films, though those don't bother me as much as starwars since I was never really a fan of kirk and Spok and co anyway. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291974#p291974 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? Hi.Urm dark, you know that rogue 1 was teaserd as an more action type film and not a take on the main starwars plot?I will definattley check this one out when I have the time for it.Greetings Moritz. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291926#p291926 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? I have not seen Rogue 1 yet, and after The force Awakens I have no plans on seeing any more Star Wars movies. Apart from the fact that episode Vii was almost identical to A New Hope, I still can't get over the fact that they through out the last thirty years worth of books that were cannon. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291816#p291816 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? Cursed child wasn't as bad, or at least not judging by the book, albeit it was more a love letter to harry potter than a serious continuation of the series. It worries me rather more with Starwars since it's all too easy to take everything good about starwars and just turn it into a generic hollywood brand to make yet more money from the disney coorporation by having more excuses for explosions and high speed chases with no reason to really care about who gets blown up. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291779#p291779 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? George Lucas even said that the storye was supposed to end at episode six. After the empire is defeated and Anakin is brought to the light, that's it. No more story. He probably regrets seling it to Disney now. They seem to screw up everything they buy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291742#p291742 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? I haven't seen Rogue one, but I think you're right.They should have left the end at episode 6.All of these reboots and forcing the story to continue is a money making ploy.It's the same with Harry potter and the cursed child, I refuse to acknowledge that one.Apparently someone asked C.S. Lewis why there weren't any more narnia stories and his response was, if I wrote any more, it would be forced.As long as there's a way for them to make money, and for the gullable to fall for it, people will keep forcing the stories to continue. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291735#p291735 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? Well the main starwars story will continue with episode 8, though I confess after being a wee bit disappointed by rogue one, and slightly mildlier disappointed by episode 7 last year I'm not sure the trend is going well. My brother is really worried disney will kill any magic starwars had by just churning out film after film after film until everyone is sick of the things, and unfortunately that seems to be where it's going.Interesting you mention action, since one thing that always amazes me watching the original starwars films is just how little action there is, or rather how much plot is based round the action so you actually care about the action sequences there are. Not that I'm against action, I love! action sequences when done right, but just as too little action can make something dull and lacking in conflict, too much can really stop you caring about what's actually happening. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291713#p291713 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? Well the main starwars story will continue with episode 8, though I confess after being a wee bit disappointed by rogue one, and slightly mildlier disappointed by episode 7 last year I'm not sure the trend is going well. My brother is really worried disney will kill any magic starwars had by just churning out film after film after film until everyone is sick of the things, and unfortunately that seems to be where it's going. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291713#p291713 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: Rogue one, thoughts?
Re: Rogue one, thoughts? I wish it picked up where the one last year did. I liked that one better this was just mostly alot of action. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291668#p291668 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Rogue one, thoughts?
Rogue one, thoughts? Well last night my brother and I went to see rogue one. Was it good? , well yes possibly I suppose, not a film i regret, but was it a good starwars film? Not really. I confess the hole thing just felt flat to me, I felt a real disconnection from what was going on. There were some moments I really liked, but there was so much that seemed to be a case of "we had this because it was cool" rather than because it needed to be there. Yes, there were the camios of mone mothmar and even governer tarkin (poor Peter cushing), but really it just felt like an excuse for major extended action. Where I was looking forward to a heist type film and perhaps something showing more of the universe, this just felt like yet mor battles, indeed I was wondering exactly where the rebellion, who in a new hope seem to have about 30 ships max suddenly had hundreds for a huge dog fight, not to mention the amount of "well we'll just fly to this planet and see what happens but wooopse! we forgot the empire was ther" rather than actual planning (really the film made the rebels look like utter morons). Again much more style over substance, plus, no john williams! gr! Oh, and once again why do all blind people have to either be some sort of awesome ninja awesomeness, or feeble? Is it so hard to write a blind character as just a person who is blind? That one mildly annoyed me, particularly seeing said ninja boy ninja walk across a battlefield and then feel for a console switch, quite ridiculous and once again a blind character who has bugger all to actually do with blind people.K2 however, was the best thing in the film, a snarky doom laden programmed droid, awesome! I will say I loved seeing vader's evil castle of evil just for amusement, and the section at the end with vader appearing leading into a new hope, but in general I can't say I'm too empressed, the thing just felt flat, and for a film whe re most of the main cast die that's saying something.Sadly it looks like Starwars is just going to be run into the ground by disney to ram as much cash out of it as humanly possible until it becomes utterly lifeless. Then again the same could be said for most of hollywood these days with ever repeating remakes and franchise films. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=291628#p291628 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
