Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-22
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : pelantas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi,ok, will stick to the Original plan greetz mike URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353351#p353351 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Just give it a try if you feel like doing it. A lot of people would like to hear how it goes... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353340#p353340 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-21
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : pelantas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi,my appologies, i forgot to report on the current state of my laptop under repair.I understood that a bill got send to me, telling me how much the costs will be to repair the laptop, but still haven't got a bill. i will do a second call tomorrow if the bill didn't arrive after this night.I still want to try it, but wouldn't it be better first to see how the campaign turns out? or shall i start right away as soon as my laptop is back in my posession as the plan was first?Any thoughts?Greetz mike URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353300#p353300 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games SirBadger wrote:@59, that mail is the exact same one i pasted in post one and have had twice although the second time the price had dropped.Indeed. It is the same text, with a pricedrop added. Saying that many people are enjoying the service is a marketing strategy. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353208#p353208 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I'm starting the campaigne today to have him removed from paypal. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353203#p353203 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Skype is, in my experience at least, actually fairly stable. That doesn't mean it never drops or glitches, mind you, but issues are rarely long-lasting. A little bit of intermittent lag, and that's all.That said, I live in Canada, and have also accessed Skype from the United States. Maybe your mileage will vary in other countries? Please do educate me on this one if I'm wrong.I would expect that any service like this will necessitate something of a good-faith agreement between provider and customer. i.e., if there are unforeseen technical difficulties, then within reason you won't be charged for time you aren't using.I would gently suggest not reading too much into the "many people are enjoying it" comment, one way or the other, largely because those "many people" might well have been the folks he used to set the service up and make sure it was viable. It might also be a bald-faced lie. It might also be that he's got a small but rather satisfied market not related to audiogames.net who has, in fact, thus far enjoyed the service. We don't know. We can't know. It isn't worth analyzing too much. I'd let that part of it go. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353193#p353193 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SirBadger via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games @59, that mail is the exact same one i pasted in post one and have had twice although the second time the price had dropped. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353156#p353156 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : seb2314 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Well. We all build a reputation, and if this dev is trying to rebuild his by offering this service, I'm really hoping this can work. I myself don't need what he's offering but I'm sure it would be useful for a lot of us, if in fact he can manage. I really hope LordLundin is going to have good news for us, but somehow I doubt it. Fingers crossed URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353154#p353154 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : seb2314 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Well. We all build a reputation, and if this dev is trying to rebuild his by offering this service, I'm really hoping this can work. I myself don't need it but I'm sure it would be useful, so I really hope LordLundin is going to have good news for us, but somehow I doubt it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353154#p353154 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I find it very suspicious that he says that "people are really enjoying it" in his email but Jake hasn't posted a single thing either on this topic or on the forum about this service. Makes me wonder if it's just a gam bling tactic to try and get people to buy into this nonsense when really no one has tried. Plus, I also find it highly suspicious that he wants people to use Skype; considering how unreliable Skype can be in simple voice calls sometimes, especially in large groups, I'd imagine Skype is even more unreliable with screen sharing. There are far more stable platforms, and if I'm not mistaken, Be My Eyes allows for something like this. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353151#p353151 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-20
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : pelantas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi,as i got still no news about my laptop yet, i will call to the store today again, will post again when i have heard something about the current status.greetz mike URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353051#p353051 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi.Here is the mail I received from Breakerbox Studios:Den 17. feb. 2018 kl. 18.44 skrev Breakerbox Studios <breakerboxstud...@gmail.com>:Hey there,there's a new accessible service we're offering now called Gamerpal, which involves having video games read aloud to you. Any menus, inventory and dialogue. Even Location descriptions and strategy! RPGs work great, such as from the Final Fantasy or Zelda or Elder Scrolls. Even emulations! I personally like Final Fantasy 7. The price of filling your game time has now been reduced by half! It's much more efficient now. Here's how it works:1. Clicking the purchase link below makes you a listed member.2. Send an email to breakerboxstud...@gmail.com with the days you have open, we'll reply with times that are available.3. Set your times and game it up.Enjoy time with a gaming buddy, with voice acting, quick item reads and environmental descriptions.Click here to get 4 hours total (use the time however you want)Click here to get 8 hours total (use the time however you want)Rules and Requirements:The system only requires video games that run on your PC and an installation of Skype.2 hour sessions at a time.Sorry, no M rated mature games.Parental consent if you are under 18 years of age.This service is a lot of fun and people are really enjoying it! We hope to enjoy some gaming time with you! Thanks and write anytime if you have any questions. I'll be back with some news on the other games in progress!Best Regards,Jake, Breakerbox URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353048#p353048 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I, too, got another email about GamerPal. It was probably something he sent out to everyone on a given list when he lowered the price. It might even have been automated, given that the text of the email itself is virtually unchanged.That said, this dude is colossally bad at getting back to people, it looks like. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=353003#p353003 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SirBadger via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games well after I origionally posted this topic I emailed back to ask for more information. I have nothing back except for the same email somebody else mentioned offering it cheeper.I should point out I didn't start this as an aggressive attack against breaker box, airic, once it was finally released in it's turbo version runs like a dream and is a great game. i'll admit I do have wurries and issues with them though, all of which have been covered comprehensively by other posters. was interesting to see the feedback this has got though.I'm still in 2 minds on breakerbox. they have a lot to offer and what they do make is well worth the money. on the other hand, a lot of the time they don't deliver and it's a real shame. they have a lot of potential. I guess we'll see what this new idea of theirs brings but like many others, I personally won't be spending money on it until somebody can show it actually works, is worth the money and will fit with people's times.there's a scinical part of me thinks people will get things like, oh sorry, we have nobody available to play this game with you at the time you suggested, will Monday the 31st of February next year be ok.ok 31st of February is going to far but I think you get the point. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352991#p352991 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games @LordLundin, that's more than generous. This developer lost his "I'm-an-irresponsible-developer, give-me-some-time" attitude years ago. Now he's just got the "I'm-a-greedy-bastard-who-wants-money-from-people-to-spend-it-on-god-knows-what" attitude he's holding up so well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352983#p352983 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Ok SLJ, when did you receive this email? Because I haven't received my ordered product yet and I think we're reaching the one week mark? Yeah I think it's tomorrow or wednesday.If he still reduces the price, not responding to customers, and refuses to show on the forum, then I change my stance; I no longer think his actions is from innocent incompitence, I think they desire money and will go so far as to rip people off. Jacob, if you see this ... I will chew your ass off, and I will also be looking into the option of having you pay back all the people who never got their product ... with your own money. Incompitent developers are one thing, but eresponsible is another. And you know I'm still being fucking generous here. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352951#p352951 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-19
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : amerikranian via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Lol. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352900#p352900 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi.I've received yet an other mail with the same offer, but with a reduced price. Properly because no one have purchased it yet. No comments from the company here on the forum about this service. Hmm, just, no comment... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352868#p352868 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Shotgunshell, that's the thing. You're in a situation where you can get that sort of help if you want it. Other people aren't. GamerPal wouldn't be any good for you, so by all means move on, the same way I will if someone releases another racing game, for instance. It's not for me.And as for the "I'll believe it when I see it" thing? Heh, that's why I'm trying to get someone to try the service, and why I'm extremely glad that someone's volunteered to do so when they're able.I'd like to believe that Jake will actually offer something worthwhile here, but I'm not sure either way. I guess this will prove it one way or the other. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352802#p352802 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Right now my approach is I'll believe it when I see it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352677#p352677 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-17
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : shotgunshell via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games @Jayde I agree with a lot of what your saying. My problem is that he's offering a service that I could get easily enough from my own home for no cost. Plus, I could play whatever I wanted for as long as I wanted. It seems like he's offering this just to make money. I don't care to much about his track record as I haven't bought his games anyway. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352675#p352675 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Huge props to you, Mike, for being willing to give this a try. I will be extremely disappointed if it doesn't work out.I'm definitely not on Jake's side in all of this. I am just the sort of person to exhaust all options before condemning (or indeed, before supporting) something. You're doing what I can't, and what others won't, so thanks hugely for that. And hey, it doesn't have to be done today. Completely understand your priorities. Good luck with the laptop.And you weren't one of the snarliest ones, so don't worry about it too much. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352643#p352643 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : pelantas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi,after reading the topic after my first post, i will take on the question on reporting after trying out this service.But this will have to wait for a bit. i am currently using an alternative laptop while my primary gaming laptop is under repair. If i understood from acer, news should be reported at the start of next week. I will keep you updated on when i am going to start. but the first priority will be that my primary gaming laptop is back in my posession.@jayden,my first post was not intended to sound harsh or something about this new service. I only tried to show that i am very curious on how this service turns out to be, not slamming the door tied shut before even getting more information about this, but i think my try failed misserably But as said, when my laptop is back, i will give it a go.Greetz mike URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352529#p352529 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Joseph Westhouse via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Yeah I'm less concerned about him getting spammed and missing something, and more about the possibility that if he has some sort of automation set up and something went wrong, it's very easy for that sort of thing to slip through the cracks. Though again, this is just me giving the benefit of the doubt, partially because you're better off having exhausted all reasonable options before taking steps as drastic as reporting to PayPal. If you've reached out to him, though, then you've done all you could. A good developer would appreciate the effort. We had someone send a similar message—one of the folks whose welcome email got eaten by our server issues, and apparently did not see the notices of how to get their download link. We resolved it, and they seemed very happy with the process, and even went to bat for us at a later date when someone was (rightfully) grumbling about some of the issues that plagued our release. It'll be interesting to hear how your experience pans out... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352505#p352505 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Thanks Joseph, I actually neglected to think about that - though I highly doubt he is getting spammed by order requests, lol. I also pointed out to him that he has a week to deliver or he's getting taken down for fraud. We can't mindlessly protect developers, we have to be concerned about quality as well. No one else would accept this behaviour so why should you? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352490#p352490 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Agreed, Joseph.In this case, GamerPal is a service which is already available, as far as I know. It's not a preorder.If this was another preorder, I wouldn't even be having this argument. I might've suggested people cut the snark, but the skepticism is wholly earned.For a project which isn't being released "soon" though? Well, presumably if someone wanted to gamble ten bucks, they could see if Jake is actually ready to deliver this service in some way and, from there, determine how good it is.I'm all in favour of people not getting screwed over. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352488#p352488 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Joseph Westhouse via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Lord Lundin—just a quick note, personally I hope you've at least reached out to the developer about your missing link? That seems like an appropriate thing to do before telling PayPal someone is committing fraud. I just mention that because I just discovered a few emails from shortly after AHC's release, when we were having server issues and failed to send some of our automated welcome emails. They got buried in an unmonitored mailbox, and so I only now saw them. Let's just say, I'm glad those folks didn't report us to PayPal as fraudulent thieves.Now, all of that said, it definitely sounds like people are justified in their strong skepticism about this developer. I do understand what Jayde is saying—that the service itself should be treated with an open mind. I agree with that whole-heartedly. What probably shouldn't be approached with too open of a mind is promise that "If you pay us, we'll give you something" from someone who has consistently failed to deliver on those promises in the past. Personally, I'm very troubled by the idea of someone doing pre-orders for a game without any sort of announced release date. Fundraising through donations, Kickstarter projects, etc. is different—but if you're saying that you are taking preorders for a project, the project should have a firm release date. That way users are justified in requesting a refund if the product is not delivered by that release date.Anyway, I guess I'm just saying that I don't think this developer has earned the benefit of the doubt as far as money is concerned. If they want to say, "Here's a product we're preparing to roll out, so get excited..." By all means, give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that they'll follow through. But if it's "Here's a product we're working on...give us money, and we promise we'll get it to you some day," then I'd say they're well past having the right to expect anyone to take the bait. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352483#p352483 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : connor142 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I'm sorry @jade and everyone else who supports breakerbox games but I simply cannot agree with you based on a lot of experience with jake and his service. I'll list a few points here. First of all. Where, pray tell, is steampunk neverland and clocktower chronicles? I preordered those for $25 a little over 2 and a half years ago, and since that original topic about the two games a grand total of 0 updates about their status have been made. Second? Edge of winter. I'm sorry but that's just an insult to me. I payed $15 for that, and how much of it can we play? A demo. Not even a functional demo, a buggy demo. This after again, two years of waiting. Also, the promises about edge of winter such as professional voice acting or sounds were never delivered. The acting is done largely by jake and some other people who I distinctly recall hearing from griff and griff2. Oh yeah, that brings me to my next point. the griff games were a disaster through and through. I swear to the god of pizza and beer, they bearly ran at all. They would unexplainably crash every few minutes, this would mean you'd have to start over from when you last saved. On top of that, your saved progress would sometimes corrupt in a way that didn't allow you to attack a boss for some reason. This means you have to play the entire game over again to that point. I'm sorry, but these are things that every beta tester no matter how incompatent would instantly notice. Also griff 2, just what the fuck? That was a total rip-off. It was basically another $16 for the exact same game. Go open up griff 1 and 2 side by side and play the first two levels. You'll notice the layout of all levels is the same in both games. That leads me to the conclusion that all he did for griff2 was to take the code from griff1, add the rune stone mechanic to it and then re-record with different sounds and music. Now, I come to his ordering system. Before, you had to wait months, yes, months if you wanted a game. That is if you were lucky to receive it at all. A few months ago, Jake said he would try to clean up his act and also stated that if you bought a game from him, you would *instantly* receive your dropbox! download link. Acording to what people like andreas have said, you still have to wait for indeterminate amounts of time to receive your link, which by the way has no protection on it so if you want to redistribute the games go ahead. There's no activation system, no licencing, and frankly, I would be totally ok with people doing this. If I want a side scroler, I certainly wouldn't play griff. I'd play bd, or some other great scroler which is free like battle zone and has more replay value. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352473#p352473 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Disclaimer: I have never ordered a game from breakerbox or played one of their games seriously, but I have followed many of the threads he's posted and talked to people who preordered them.I agree with allot of what Jade is saying, but I can't just ignore what was brought up in posts 14 and 26.Why would he come out with new ideas when he hasn't finished his old ones yet, why is he not devoting his time to improving his reputation and making his preorder customers happy?Probably because he's decided not to do those projects anymore for what ever reason, (family or work obligations, lack of resources do to funding falling through or an unexpected increase in price, burnout do to criticism or an absence of motivation, ETC) and since they were only preorders, that's fare enough, disappointing maybe, but that's what you sign up for by doing that and it's common in the mainstream world as well.Here's the thing though. To my knowledge he has refused to publicly announce the discontinuation of any of these projects, even those that have been delayed for years now, nor even give concrete updates on progress most of the time, and only after he's been hounded about it for weeks.Not only does this mean that people must dispute the charges to get their money back, rather than being refunded as a group which is standard practice when a preorder goes bust, but it also means that he is actively fucking over the people who have been waiting for so long by wheeling out shiny new projects on a silver platter, which he has time to talk about apparently, while completely ignoring the reasonable concerns of those left in the dust, even when he is asked directly in those threads about it, something which he doesn't even dignify with a request to email him instead of shitting on his new game idea.That's why your going to have a hard time getting people to agree with you when it comes to perceived improvement on any front, because that's exactly what we've all been trying to convince our selves of as it is, for years.It's entirely possible for someone to use up all their good will and get run out of town on a rail, and with all the chances he's been given it's not all that unreasonable either, many communities would have flayed him alive for this much sooner, and warning potential new victims is just a natural consequence.So at this point I don't really have much sympathy for his bad planning, because he clearly doesn't have much for his customers, and I've already seen too much willful ignorance from devs in this community over the years to cut him any slack, especially since he's charging for his games.If you enjoy his released games, than by all means you should buy and play them, but when it comes to new titles he just isn't trustworthy, and it's only natural for that kind of crap to spill over and damage his reputation at large. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352424#p352424 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Yepp, I intend to help speed along that process if I haven't received my product in a week ... and that's a very generous amount of time. I realize people can be busy ... nevermind the fact there should be an automated system for this kind of thing but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Unless it is against the forum rules to do so I will make a topic and have people who have been screwed over by him let their voices be heard so that paypal can take a look at the severity of the case. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352441#p352441 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: intriguing email from breaker box games @DefenderExactly so! I suspect that he doesn't announce the abandonment of any of his projects he accepted preorders for because he knows that if he did, those people who paid for a preorder would rightfully demand a refund from him and he's already spent the money.Eventually PayPal will catch on to him and kick him off their platform and that will pretty much put an end to his shinanigans. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352436#p352436 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Disclaimer: I have never ordered a game from breakerbox or played one of their games seriously, but I have followed many of the threads he's posted and talked to people who preordered them.I agree with allot of what Jade is saying, but I can't just ignore what was brought up in posts 14 and 26.Why would he come out with new ideas when he hasn't finished his old ones yet, why is he not devoting his time to improving his reputation and making his preorder customers happy?Probably because he's decided not to do those projects anymore for what ever reason, (family or work obligations, lack of resources do to funding falling through or an unexpected increase in price, burnout do to criticism or an absence of motivation, ETC) and since they were only preorders, that's fare enough, disappointing maybe, but that's what you sign up for by doing that and it's common in the mainstream world as well.Here's the thing though. To my knowledge he has refused to publicly announce the discontinuation of any of these projects, even those that have been delayed for years now, nor even give concrete updates on progress most of the time, and only after he's been hounded about it for weeks.Not only does this mean that people must dispute the charges to get their money back, rather than being refunded as a group which is standard practice when a preorder goes bust, but it also means that he is actively fucking over the people who have been waiting for so long by wheeling out shiny new projects on a silver platter, which he has time to talk about apparently, while completely ignoring the reasonable concerns of those left in the dust, even when he is asked directly in those threads about it, something which he doesn't even dignify with a request to email him instead of shitting on his new game idea.That's why your going to have a hard time getting people to agree with you when it comes to perceived improvement on any front, because that's exactly what we've all been trying to convince our selves as it is, for years.It's entirely possible for someone to use up all their good will and get run out of town on a rail, and with all the chances he's been given it's not all that unreasonable either, many communities would have flayed him alive for this much sooner, and warning potential new victims is just a natural consequence.So at this point I don't really have much sympathy for his bad planning, because he clearly doesn't have much for his customers, and I've seen too much willful ignorance from devs in this community over the years to cut him any slack, especially since he's charging for his games.If you enjoy his released games, than by all means you should buy and play them, but when it comes to new titles he just isn't trustworthy, and it's only natural for that kind of crap to spill over and damage his reputation at large. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352424#p352424 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-16
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : defender via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Disclaimer: I have never ordered a game from breakerbox or played one of their games seriously, but I have followed many of the threads he's posted and talked to people who preordered them.I agree with allot of what Jade is saying, but I can't just ignore what was brought up in posts 14 and 26.Why would he come out with new ideas when he hasn't finished his old ones yet, why is he not devoting his time to improving his reputation and making his preorder customers happy?Probably because he's decided not to do those projects anymore for what ever reason, (family or work obligations, lack of resources do to funding falling through or an unexpected increase in price, burnout do to criticism or an absence of motivation, ETC) and since they were only preorders, that's fare enough, disappointing maybe, but that's what you sign up for by doing that and it's common in the mainstream world as well.Here's the thing though. To my knowledge he has refused to publicly announce the discontinuation of any of these projects, even those that have been delayed for years now, nor even give concrete updates on progress most of the time, and only after he's been hounded about it for weeks.Not only does this mean that people must dispute the charges to get their money back, rather than being refunded as a group which is standard practice when a preorder goes bust, but it also means that he is actively fucking over the people who have been waiting for so long by wheeling out shiny new projects on a silver platter, which he has time to talk about apparently, while completely ignoring the reasonable concerns of those left in the dust, even when he is asked directly in those threads about it, something which he doesn't even dignify with a request to email him instead of shitting on his new game idea.That's why your going to have a hard time getting people to agree with you when it comes to perceived improvement on any front, because that's exactly what we've all been trying to convince our selves as it is, for years.It's entirely possible for someone to use up all their good will and get run out of town on a rail, and with all the chances he's been given it's not all that unreasonable either, many communities would have flayed him alive for this much sooner, and warning potential new victims is just a natural consequence.So at this point I don't really have much sympathy for his bad planning, because he clearly doesn't have much for his customers, and I've seen too much willful ignorance from devs in this community over the years to cut him any slack, especially since he's charging for his games. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352424#p352424 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Excuse me, Orko, but now you've leapt without looking into the dangerous realm of assumption. Allow me to rescue you.I have, in fact, dealt with BreakerBox games before. I was one of the first people to attempt to buy Airic the Cleric - as in, way way back before it had any voice acting at all - and so I know precisely the sort of difficulties this company is known for. I have actually bought that game a total of twice. As such, I'll ask you not to dismiss my arguments as weightless simply because you erroneously believed I have never had personal experience with this company. What's more logic is logic regardless of personal involvement. The only way you can get away with dismissing my arguments is if they lack context. They don't, as I have acknowledged that BreakerBox has definitely had many issues. I've acknowledged that people who have made pre-orders haven't gotten anything, and that people who have bought games often struggle to actually get their hands on them. This is bad, you'll get no argument from me there. All I have been saying is moderation. Not optimism, not undying praise, but moderation. You don't seem to realize that.If the Paypal setup is still problematic, then that's an issue. People should ideally be able to pay via Paypal and then immediately (or within reasonable time) get some sort of download link. If that's not happening, then it quite obviously needs to be corrected.The preorder issue is a little more difficult. If there is no product, there is no product. It's really that simple. To me at least, a problem with preorders is not grounds for criticizing a service which already appears to be available. One is about something yet to be delivered, the other is about a present-day service. If you claim that the preorder issue is a direct reason to criticize the GamerPal service, that is extremely illogical, and proves to me that you're not seeing the big picture.Incidentally, the last version of Airic the Cleric I downloaded was actually pretty stable. Prior versions were indeed quite buggy, but that was later corrected. As far as screwy mechanics? I don't know quite what you mean there. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352415#p352415 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: intriguing email from breaker box games ANd adding to it after purchase he is sending the dropbox links. Maybe better than a sendspace but still, crap.From another side, their games are bugged as hell with screwed gameplay mechanics so again, i am out of their games land. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352378#p352378 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Oh yeah, sending out emails about a new way for people to give him their money when many of those people paid for a preorder and never got it is a good way to show you aren't out to rip them off. Instead of coming out with new ideas to charge people for he should be working on fulfilling those orders he's already been paid for and has yet to deliver on.Despite all his promises of making changes to correct the problems of the past, I still hear about too many people ordering stuff from him and never getting it, then having to file a dispute with paypal to get their money back.It's easy to say nice things about him or to tell other people to give him a break when you have no money to spend on him. I'd be willing to bet that you'd be singing a very different tune if you were one of the many he's accepted money from for preorders and still haven't gotten what you paid for.Considering your lack of involvement, your arguments don't really cary much weight with me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352357#p352357 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : LordLundin via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Speaking of Breakerbox's bad reputation, for some reason I ordered the bundle yesterday morning and it's now evening here and I still haven't received anything. I'll give them a week then I'll try to get them down from paypal for fraud, even though I don't think his intentions are malicious either, but I just can't stand shady dealings, and neither should you. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352316#p352316 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games We aren't going to disagree on the fact that BreakerBox has had problems. We are also not going to disagree, I hope, on the fact that they are working on at least some of them. The impression I have personally always gotten from this company is a matter of good ideas, bad execution, rather than a notion of malice or sheer greed. It has resulted in people getting screwed, and that's not good, but I don't think Jake is laughing all the way to the bank, if you catch my meaning.And when I see comments like, "We all know this guy never keeps his promises", is it any wonder that he's not precisely a popular figure on the forum? If that was the kind of snark I was subjected to on a regular basis, even if I'd earned a great deal of scorn and anger for my behaviour, I very likely wouldn't be submitting myself for a whipping by posting on the forum more than I had to.That said, have you noticed that the people who have pre-ordered or outright bought his games are getting emails? This means that he is reaching out, but largely to a client base he already knows and possesses. This is an issue of playing it safe, and while there are decent arguments for posting this on the forum, it's an interesting point that one of the community members went ahead and did it anyway. I don't think Jake's choice on this makes him a bad developer. There are points on both sides of that particular decision.So yeah. I think moderation here is key. Not unflagging optimism, not snark, but realism. If you don't know the product's efficacy, don't judge it. If you aren't willing to acknowledge all relevant angles, maybe keep your opinions quieter until you are better informed. If you aren't willing to take a gamble on BreakerBox, no one's going to put a gun to your head or call you names or otherwise demonize you; it's completely understandable, since that negative rep didn't materialize overnight for no reason. Just consider the big picture. I say it all the time. Look at all the facts, not just the ones which selectively support your point of view. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352303#p352303 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I've had nothing but good experiences with be my eyes. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352298#p352298 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I agree with you, but be my eyes despite those flaws supports more languages and is free, so agree or not more people will use and like it. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352296#p352296 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Since Aira is Be My Eyes, but with trained, professional assistants under a non disclosure agreement to protect your personal information, instead of untrained volunteers, now that I have Aira, what would I need Be My Eyes for?Don't answer that, besides being off topic, it is just a rhetorical question that needs no answer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352294#p352294 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Weird, I could always connect in a few minutes. I am guessing you use English as your language? If so, perhaps you were just unlucky and I don't think you should uninstall the app afterall. Also, I heard people use seeing AI for this job too. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352278#p352278 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I don't think I'd go that far, the last several times I tried to use Be My Eyes I was never connected to a volunteer even after several attempts. It was that lack of availability that prompted me to uninstall Be My Eyes and get Aira. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352272#p352272 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : nidza07 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games In my opinion, if he was interested in getting positive feedback, he would have came here and explained the service as well as reply to questions. Technologies such as OCR are advancing well enough that this will be opsolete, and not to even mention you have a free service called be my eyes. Sure it is not exactly made for this, but they are very open to any kind of help and it has way more volonteers than this will ever have. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352267#p352267 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-15
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Right, you can want to do the right thing, and just not be good at managing time or ideas well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352265#p352265 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Shrug I think it's just a matter of two many ideas at once. I don't think it's willful malice. My advice is to just finish what you have on your plate, people will be happier and be able to trust what you're doing as a company. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352256#p352256 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Actually no, or at least not until Breakerbox fulfills the promises it has made and that people have paid for in the way of preorders to see completed.While the changes you note will benefit new customers, have you no thought or consideration for all those who paid for preorders of promised games only to see those promises never fulfilled and their money gone. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352250#p352250 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi.Thanks Jayde, for putting some positive words in this...Let's continue the positive tone for a bit:It would be interesting to use the service to get game menus noted. 5 dollars for an hour of help with the menus. That would be great stuff for sure... URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352220#p352220 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
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Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Right, and what of the fact that you can now buy their games instead of having to rely on a bad system to get them delivered to you? What of the fact that they are actually putting forth a newsletter-type email to note what they're up to? Does that count for absolutely zero?I am not saying that skepticism doesn't belong here. It absolutely does. Skepticism is understandable. My previous post was intended to lend some balance to what I was seeing in this thread, a more well-rounded perspective, if you will. If all you read from it was "don't be negative", you missed the point almost entirely, and I urge you to reread it. There is a great deal more said there than "don't be negative". I wish people would more closely monitor the things they say and the impact those things can have on a community that already suffers from some pretty toxic entitlement and negativity issues.Orko, I'll tell you why I won't and can't put my my money where my mouth is.1. I don't actually have, own, or want to play any PC games that would need sighted assistance.2. Even if I did - which, as you'll remember, I don't - most of those games require money. The service itself also requires money. This is money I don't precisely have. Unlike some of you, I do not already have a laundry list of games I own and wish I could play. I am starting from scratch, so instead of a ten-dollar outlay, you'd be looking at more than that.3. I am going to college three full days a week, and work is really starting to pile up. You might notice that I've been posting less often in the last few weeks? One of the primary reasons for this is that I frankly have other demands on my time. That's certainly true for some of the rest of you as well, of course, and that's fine, but it means that I am not in either a financial or temporal position to devote my resources to confirming the usefulness of this productwhich, of course, is why I threw down the gauntlet in the first place. Because some of you don't have libraries you could test it on, some of you really can't spare the ten bucks or so, some of you don't have the time. Fine. But I bet at least one person reading this could probably fulfill all criteria, and take up the challenge. I would if I could, but I can't, so I'm not going to lose sleep over it, or over an opinion of me which might change due to my inability to do as I'm asking others to try.And it ought to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. You'll get no judgment from me if you are unable or unwilling to take up this challenge. I am simply providing it as a means of demonstrating the efficacy of a service which is, as yet, unproven one way or the other in this community. At worst, I'm saying that if you can't actually prove that it's a bust, don't go around naysaying the company or the service, because you lack proof and might do more harm than you realize. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352194#p352194 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games What assumptions? We all already know of Breakerbox's past track record when it comes to following through with the promises it makes. Those aren't assumptions, they're cold hard facts based on real world experience. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352183#p352183 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Negativity is earned though, I mean, who downs on developers who deliver good products, doesn't rip you off, delivers by the release date, or tells you a good reason why they must push it back. If people are being negative about a company, and its more than just one or two, that's probably justified, and I for one would rather see that where the alternative would be no one saying anything, and I or other people stumble into dealings with said company which end badly, either because they didn't deliver the product, the product failed to live up to expectation, or the quality was poor.I for one know nothing of this company. I didn't really get into audio games until maybe 2013, as my vision used to be better than it is now. I was never fully sighted, and I was always classified as legally blind, but I did used to play a lot of mainstream games that I can't now, or I can, but its been made more difficult because of my vision being worse now.I like to see the negativity where it is earned, and the positivity where it is earned as well. Gives me a solid idea of whether or not to buy things from that company, or that developer. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352180#p352180 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SirBadger via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games actually the original email I posted is from the guy who runs the website and the only mentioning of enjoying it seems to be him saying he enjoys final fantasy 7. it could be a quote from a user though, it's hard to be sure. I personally enjoyed playing it back in the day too but that's an epic game and the amount of hours you'd have to pay for to complete it would be unreal. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352173#p352173 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : EternalGamer via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi!Since the original email mentions people are really enjoying it, maybe we'll see some of those people report here and tell us what it's like. That would be lovely. So, if you have tried this service, please let us know how it went so the negativity that's going on here can be evaluated in light of actual experience rather than assumptions. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352150#p352150 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Go ahead Jayde, put your money where your mouth is and spend 10 bucks and report back to us.Until then, my money is staying safely in my pocket. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352143#p352143 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-14
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : stirlock via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games You know what? You have some really good points. Let's someone try the service and see how it actually functions. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352122#p352122 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games A few points here:1. Breakerbox has been working to fix their track record in the last year or so, really more like the last six months. While I don't think all their work is done yet, I think it's worth at least giving them a chance. If nothing else, they have now actually started sending emails out with ways to buy their games directly, instead of continuing to utilize their previous and extremely clunky download method. This means that, if nothing else, if you want one of their games, you can just go snag ie. While I understand a healthy amount of skepticism, I think it bears mentioning that they are improving. That's a start. It may not be enough for everyone to trust them outright, but it's a start.2. BreakerBox games are really not that expensive on the whole. Let's dispense with that myth right out of the gate. You want expensive audiogames? Look at my previous sentence (the gate, lol), and other titles from that developer. Forty dollars is a whole lot more than fifteen or twenty.3. I do not mean to criticize by any means, but it would take you eight hours to get to the first gym in Pokémon Ruby? With all respect, I feel that's either a huge glorification to make the service look useless, or it's an indication of your playing speed which means paid services like this are really not for you in the first place...which means perhaps you shouldn't be critiquing their efficacy. To put this in perspective, I can get to the first gym in Pokémon Ruby in about...oh, forty minutes or so. Maybe an hour these days, since I haven't picked up the game in awhile. If you do that whole following-walls trick, it really does let you navigate most areas, especially near the beginning of the game, super easily.4. My understanding is that you have to own whatever game it is, and you do some sort of skype call which lets the person on the other end be your eyes, and read dialogue, menu options and the like. Broken down, by the way, the cost asked for this service is approximately five dollars an hour, which is just a bit over a third of minimum wage in my own home country and province. There are, however, smaller time blocks. You don't have to buy the maximum eight hours, so mischaracterizing the service this way is something to be careful of going forward.5. Pursuant to point #4, you obviously don't have to buy into this at all. I'll be honest; I probably won't. But I'm also not going to criticize the idea until or unless I see negative feedback from people who have had hands-on experience with the GamerPal program itself. If one or more of you says that you got ripped off and can demonstrate it somehow, or says that your gamer pal was completely useless or pedantic or kept having technical difficulties for which you were still held responsible...okay, I'll sit up and take notice. Anything else at this point is just grousing because of Breakerbox's admittedly checkered history.6. Not all of us have friends or family who are willing to either play games with us, or read games out for us. As such, there are people - who live alone but still like to game, for instance - who might want to try giving this service a spin. I think it's a neat idea, and given the commentary about Aira - which I know next to nothing about, by the way - it sounds considerably cheaper. That said, BreakerBox deserves at least a little credit here, for trying to corner a niche market and offer a service. The only way we are going to know if it's actually worth it is for someone to try it and see. I'm pretty sure a two-hour window is ten dollars, and while I know people don't always have ten bucks lying around, it might be noble for one or more folks in the community with games on their PC they can't play alone to step up, lose ten bucks and actually tell us how the service works and how well it does or doesn't function. Worst case, you're out ten bucks, and you satisfy your skepticism. Best case, you realize that BreakerBox is onto something here.The sheer amount of snark and negativity and assumption I've seen in this thread is actually pretty sad. Maybe tone it back a little. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352117#p352117 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : CrystalD via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hm I have friends I can do this with and actually have an enjoyable gaming experience by doing so over skype. Sounds like a rip off service if you ask me, it's really easy to get friends and family to do this for you for free and you enjoy the game time a lot more that way. Too many services that do that already as well. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352078#p352078 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games And of course he'll never reply here till a positive comments will appear. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352059#p352059 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I preordered Pan and that game has yet to come out. Why would I agree to buy anything from breakerbox when they cannot withhold their end? Why is it they always go away for a while and come back with this cool new idea when many of their ideas have not been finished yet? Do they think that everyone will forget about all the other things they have been promised? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352051#p352051 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games And since we all know this guy never keeps is promises I'll bet a game of poker in Quentin C that he won't keep his promises on this either. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=352017#p352017 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-13
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : Socheat via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Really now? If so, I'm gonna go go buy GTA V, and give this service ago. Seriously though, this guy never keeps his promises. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351992#p351992 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Well, seems like nothing has changed, but yet again confirmed that I've previously said about this company. The only thing which matters for them is money. Promises and money. I won't give them anything until I have got what I have payed for, very long time ago. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351970#p351970 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : stirlock via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Yep, I'll pass. When he can actually release a game in a reasonable amount of time then maybe. heh URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351925#p351925 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Well, I don't care, this guy showed me I shouldn't never trust him.He created games with a lot of potential but screwed everything up. His games are too expensive, too much bugged and not really good for me. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351916#p351916 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : crashmaster via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hmmm.To be honest I see no point in this.But yeah I had all the games, and had to rebuy all the games again because I never got all my installers for any of the games I got then like 4 months down the road I got my files.No one should need to wait that long.And while I will continue to give breakerbox money for their games, the only reason that I still do is that their quality, and sounds is totally theirs and origional.If it was the company's reputation I doubt I'd give them anything at all.But I pay for content and I know that eventually I get the content I expect.There are also the toys etc.Now I am a patient man, I have a life so when they come, they come and as long as their quality does not dip below what I expect, then I will continue to pay for their programs.But if it was their service alone, then I doubt it would be worth my cash.Their subscription, no way.I used to be on a radio show now dead where the host would play games for a few hours.The show was called midimusic adventures.The website is www.midimusicadventures.comI am unsure if it still exists but if it does there is at least 2-3 years of content up there.So the guy is sighted and plays the games.But somehow he turned it into dnd style, reading dialog, and such.He would pole users on what the next choice in game should be, and such.He would comment on things to.The show was for game music and old music but expanded into games, he even allowed people to come on with him via teamtalk.I don't know if I would want to pay for service, it was entertaining because there were games I just couldn't play.Similar things can be gotten out of youtube videos.I don't think I would pay for it though. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351911#p351911 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games I have to agree with Orin, if I was at all inclined to buy into something like this, which I'm not, I'd just give my money to Aira and sign up for a plan with more minutes, then use them for game playing. What minutes I don't need for game playing can be used for other things. Finally, with Aira I know what I'm getting for my money, I can't say that about Breakerbox. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351890#p351890 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : ironcross32 via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games who here can really afford Aira though. I sure as shit can't. Also, yeah, no M rated games, well, that's mostly what I play so... guess that ain't gonna work. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351876#p351876 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Um, a team is already doing this, and we can get help with a lot more than video games. That said, I know some people who have gotten help from Aira to do exactly this, and they have a track record. The prices are quite steep, but at least I know I won't be dooped with them. Plus, with Aira, I could do console games. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351871#p351871 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : pelantas via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Hi,I will put aside the concerns i have with breakerbox promises for a bit to ask this question. When the appointment happens, will someone from breakerbox play along while i for example play pokemon? and reads everything i encounter on the screen in terms of text? describe the rooms, houses & caves i head into, then in the case of 8 hours of supported playing i won't even have finished the first gym in pokemon ruby, to wich i can speedwalk myself!Or will a computerized system aid me during playing ...I will follow this topic and see how things turn out to be, before i probably will jump in.Greetz mike URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351870#p351870 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Considering their track record on following through with their promises, I'll pass. URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351862#p351862 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-12
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : shotgunshell via Audiogames-reflector
Re: intriguing email from breaker box games Here's how I see it. It tells you you can't do M rated games, and you have to pay for a certain amount of time. Why should I pay for a limited service that I could easily get for free from my own home or from friends online. I could just go to my Dad and have him help me with a game and I don't have to pay him a cent. Plus, I would be able to play almost any game I want, of course excluding X rated games. I would understand setting X rated games as the limit, but M? Seriously? URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351846#p351846 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
intriguing email from breaker box games
2018-02-11
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AudioGames . net Forum — General Game Discussion : SirBadger via Audiogames-reflector
intriguing email from breaker box games I received this earlier and I'm not sure what to make of it. the famous company that brought us kurt wolf and airic the cleric are now offering this new service I really don't understand. especially after I pre ordered airic 2 about 5 years ago and it's still never been made. i'll let you all make up your own minds:Hey there,I want to tell you the news. There's a new accessible service we're offering now called Gamerpal, which involves having video games read aloud to you. Any menus, inventory and dialogue. Even Location descriptions and strategy! RPGs work great, such as from the Final Fantasy or Zelda or Elder Scrolls. Even emulations! I personally like Final Fantasy 7. Here's how it works:1. Clicking the purchase link below makes you a listed member.2. Send an email to breakerboxstud...@gmail.com with the days you have open, we'll reply with times that are available.3. Set your times and game it up.Enjoy time with a gaming buddy, with voice acting, quick item reads and environmental descriptions.Click here to get 4 hours total (divide the time however you want)Click here to get 8 hours total (divide the time however you want)Rules and Requirements:The system only requires video games that run on your PC and an installation of Skype.2 hour sessions at a time.Sorry, no M rated mature games.Parental consent if you are under 18 years of age.This service is a lot of fun and people are really enjoying it! We hope to enjoy some gaming time with you! Thanks and write anytime if you have any questions. I'll be back with some news on the other games in progress!Best Regards,Jake, Breakerbox URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=351842#p351842 ___ Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector
