[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
This issue could be resolved if someone at Slim would be willing to respond with the SB3's wattage usage. The difference between a 1 amp power supply and a 2 amp supply is that the 2 amp supply is going to be capable of delivering twice the wattage: 10 watts vs. 5. How much power does the SB3 consume in it's most power hungry state, which I would guess is when it's pumping out maximum signal levels through the analog outputs? The internal workings are going to require some wattage. The display requires some wattage. And the preamp stage requires some wattage. What does it all add up to? -- jonheal jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
Give me a few minutes and I will tell you - I use one of these: http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=38343TabID=1source=1doy=search -- Heuer Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How to get a deep soundstage
Here's what I can do- I'll rip an audio track through my C-9 (I'll have to use the analog inputs on my sound card, not so high quality) and while the track is being ripped, I'll switch the carver box in and out a few times. Then I'll post the file to a web page. You can then play it back on your system and see if it pops your rocket... Let me think about a good track to demo it (the effect varies depending on how the recording is mixed). Also, you should understand that for the magic to occur, you need to have the speakers set up well (generally, a couple feet from surrounding walls, and pointed at the listener, listener a couple feet from nearest walls), which is going to be a requirement for any good audio performance, with or without a cross-talk canceller. TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18878 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
OK I'm back. Figures are as follows: My voltage is 243.9v Frequency is 49.9hz SB3 is consuming 5/6 watts, 0.04 amps, 9VA, PF of 0.61 The SB3 was on Random Play, digital coax out, volume control at maximum, display medium size text. Actually with the SB3 in standby the figures are the same but then it would be as it is the PSU I am really measuring so the actual SB3 consumption would be less. -- Heuer Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
Heuer Wrote: OK I'm back. Figures are as follows: My voltage is 243.9v Frequency is 49.9hz SB3 is consuming 5/6 watts, 0.04 amps, 9VA, PF of 0.61 The SB3 was on Random Play, digital coax out, volume control at maximum, display medium size text. Actually with the SB3 in standby the figures are the same but then it would be as it is the PSU I am really measuring so the actual SB3 consumption would be less. Non-linear power supplies are about 95% efficient so I reckon the figures are about right. If the SB3 is drawing 6 watts, I don't see how a 1 amp power supply will be sufficient. I'm not an electrical engineer, but I am assuming that the SB3 will use slightly less power if either the headphone jack or the analog jacks are not in use (your case), although I would be suprised if it put out more than 1 watt RMS into either under load. Even so, adding another watt to the sum brings our total to 6 - 7 watts. -- jonheal jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
Here's another question. A lot of the folks going with a linear power supply seem to be using outboard DACs. I presume these folks side with linear supplies because they generate less high-frequency noise. However, is it not true that switching supplies generate less hum (low-frequency noise)? If so, would one not be better off sticking with the stock supply if one were using the SB3's analog outputs to connect to one's hifi? -- jonheal jonheal's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2133 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
I'm still not sure the board has reached a consensus. Does anyone think the linear power supply makes a difference for the digital output? -- ezkcdude ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
Rest of my PSU parts arrive tomorrow so I should have a working linear supply by Thursday. I will then do a comparison but in the interest of fairness I will use my resident 'Golden Ears' - my wife. No interest in technology but she does have the ears of a bat. I can put her in front of a system, tweak it and get an instant answer which tends to be in the categories of better, worse, can I go now! -- Heuer Heuer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2543 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
Well, I hope you can test the digital output. I'm very interested to hear (pun intended) the outcome. -- ezkcdude ezkcdude's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2545 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How to get a deep soundstage
I recorded a few tracks by looping the audio out from my computer through the C-9 and back into the line input. I switched the C-9 on and off at 1 minute intervals during the recording (refer to the flac tags). Here are links to the files which will only be there for a week. I will also post them to usenet so they'll be available for a little longer than that, depending on your news server. Details will be posted later... Listen to the files on your stereo system. Don't rely on what you hear from your computer speakers! The effect is speaker and listener placement critical! The tracks are A Forest by the Cure, Love is Blindness by Cassandra Wilson, and Teasing the Korean by Sex Mob. I tried to pick tracks that would demonstrate the behavior of the C-9 on vocals, acoustic instruments, and electronic music. What you'll find is that it seems to be pretty good on some music and not so good on other music, which is why you probably would not want to process all your flac files through this type of effect. If you want to see if the effect holds up through compression, try compressing the files at different bit rates and see how it sounds. Here are links to the files, in the order listed above: http://tinyurl.com/8parn http://tinyurl.com/ddgvk http://tinyurl.com/ba73u Enjoy! TD -- tyler_durden tyler_durden's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2701 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18878 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How to get a deep soundstage
tyler_durden Wrote: I recorded a few tracks by looping the audio out from my computer through the C-9 and back into the line input. I switched the C-9 on and off at 1 minute intervals during the recording (refer to the flac tags). Here are links to the files which will only be there for a week. I will also post them to usenet so they'll be available for a little longer than that, depending on your news server. Details will be posted later... Listen to the files on your stereo system. Don't rely on what you hear from your computer speakers! The effect is speaker and listener placement critical! The tracks are A Forest by the Cure, Love is Blindness by Cassandra Wilson, and Teasing the Korean by Sex Mob. I tried to pick tracks that would demonstrate the behavior of the C-9 on vocals, acoustic instruments, and electronic music. What you'll find is that it seems to be pretty good on some music and not so good on other music, which is why you probably would not want to process all your flac files through this type of effect. If you want to see if the effect holds up through compression, try compressing the files at different bit rates and see how it sounds. Here are links to the files, in the order listed above: http://tinyurl.com/8parn http://tinyurl.com/ddgvk http://tinyurl.com/ba73u Enjoy! TD Thank you a lots! I will download it and listen it tonight. Actually I am now bidding a 2nd hand Carver C-9. -- hkfind hkfind's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2648 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18878 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
Don't forget the wireless ethernet card--that could consume more power than the regular wired network model as well... -- M3Rocket M3Rocket's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2652 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best mod?
rcb Wrote: You're absolutely right my fault - i was typing fast and botched it completely: I had *meant* to write: 4.37 -- 4.70 voltage range *not* 1.4x. My guess was that because the Allied unit I got was low by over 10% from the spec of 5.0V, this led to the flickering when it powered the SB3. I hope that a replacement unit will provide a full-fledged 5.0V (I measured the switching PSU that came with the SB3, and it was putting out 5.13-5.08 V, consistently. You really need to get +/- 0.1V. There is something wrong your power supply if it's off by 10%. Under/over-voltage shouldn't hurt SB2/3, but it may function erratically. I can tell you for sure that the display and analog stage will not function correctly below 4.6V, and below 4.9 is questionable. If you're going to use an aftermarket supply try to get it dead-on 5.0. Linear supplies are usually easy to calibrate - measure at SB3, not the output. A shorter, heavier cable may help too. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=18491 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
