Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input - How?
I still get the loud burst of volume. The fix must have been something to do with Slimserver7 and not the firmware because if you go back a week or so when the nightly builds were still on FW31 the problem had already gone. In fact the every version of SS7 I have tried works. It only changed to FW32 last week and had no affect on the digital inputs. I guessing SS7 handles the digitals input plugin slightly differently. -- MikeFish MikeFish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37722 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
Hello, I've just bought a SB3. I use the analog outputs in my good quality pre-amplifier/amplifier. I'm used to adjust sound level on my amp, not the listening device, however I saw that the SB3 had volume adjustment. So I guess that there is some kind of pre-amplifier in the SB3, is this right, or is it normal functionality of the DAC to be able to adjust line-level outputs voltage? At what volume should I use the SB3, given that I would like control volume on my pre-amplifier? Or, to put it another way, what volume should I use if I want the SB3 to do the less audio processing as possible and let my pre-amp/amp do it? Thanks! -- testic testic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Threads Deteriorating into Debates
Videodrome;225106 Wrote: ...or just plain noise (example 2). Yes, this discussion is no different because to change posters behaviour you need to change... people's mentality. Few tried last century, but noone really succeed. :) -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38041 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
adamslim;225816 Wrote: The SB3 volume control is quite transparent - it all works at 24 bits, so for CDs does not truncate bits (the major quality loss) until you are reducing volume really quite a lot. However, it will increase the S/N ratio in the DAC, which will have a small impact on quality - but this may be less than caused by an analogue volume control. However, if you are happy with your pre-amp volume control, best sound from the SB3 must be at full volume. This is doing the least processing. My amp does not have a remote volume, and I am happy to use the SB3 volume in the range 80-100 or so (and I consider myself pretty fussy!). Adam As Adam - I can't hear any degradition in quality when using the volume on the SB in that range - and I am rather fussy too! I think we can add this to the ever-growing audio myth pile (you know - along with coax is always better than toslink - that sort of thing!) By the way, even with true 24-bit audio I reckon you can probably lose the last 4 bits or so without anyone actually noticing a change in sound quality... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So, this new iPod Touch thing
opaqueice;225830 Wrote: But if it ever becomes possible, I'll be able to listen to my entire music library any place, any time (so long as I have phone service at least). Not bad, eh? ;-) Only if you have a flat rate data plan, otherwise be prepared for the massive bill shock at the end of the month :-) -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38195 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
Also set UDP to 1200, correct? -- IvanSlade IvanSlade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
It is wireless on a laptop about 1 meter away. Sean said last time that I did not need to hard wire the system and I do not think I have an RJ45 to hand. Where is the buffer status bar - sorry to be thick. Best Ivan -- IvanSlade IvanSlade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
P Floding;225772 Wrote: Your best course of action is, obviously, to tell the customer off for being an idiot, and that you have better things to do than listening to BS like that. That's part one of course 101 in Customer Relations. This is at least the second time you've declared in a huff you were leaving the forum permanently and then come back a little later. I see the time off hasn't improved your personality. -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best digital output... Coax or Tos?
NewBuyer;225775 Wrote: Hi Chinanico, Yes that is exactly right, the coax was completely unplugged (both ends) when the Toslink was in place. Hi gdg, In addition, I am not sure that a ground loop through an unbalanced *digital* coax connection would necessarily produce an analog 60Hz hum effect, as it can of course do through an unbalanced analog cable... but I could be mistaken. It certainly is possible. Much depends on the SPDIF transmitter/receiver circuit design. It doesn't matter what signal is on the wire - it's whether or not it is possible to make an electrical connection through to the circuitary/metalwork. Any induced RF etc on either the ground or hot wires can then cause issues - potentially. Sometimes isolating impulse transformers are used which ameliorate this issues - but not always. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38188 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
Here I am again trying to install an SB3 in Germany based on my snap, crackle and pop experience in the UK with the SB3 and the trans.. All works well over s/network but problems again with the slimserver; latest version. When playing (only FLAC)a song starts off perfectly and then between 5 - 7 seconds it breaks up throughout the rest of the track and sometimes looses the signal totally, periods of silence. Signal strength 85%. Updated firmware and that other thing press 1 when turning the power back on. I am again at a loss and am leaving my friend in Germany tomorrow. HELP best Ivan She is using an old Grundig integrated amp which works fine with a new CD player etc -- IvanSlade IvanSlade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
The SB3 volume control is quite transparent - it all works at 24 bits, so for CDs does not truncate bits (the major quality loss) until you are reducing volume really quite a lot. However, it will increase the S/N ratio in the DAC, which will have a small impact on quality - but this may be less than caused by an analogue volume control. However, if you are happy with your pre-amp volume control, best sound from the SB3 must be at full volume. This is doing the least processing. My amp does not have a remote volume, and I am happy to use the SB3 volume in the range 80-100 or so (and I consider myself pretty fussy!). Adam -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
Robin Bowes;225780 Wrote: P Floding wrote: seanadams;225730 Wrote: Yes. I have presented a plausible explanation which is supported by 100% of the evidence at hand, and I have explained why it is so. I have also explained why other mysterious phenomena, such as jitter, would not cause the reported symptoms. Do I think I'm right? Yes. Do I mind if I'm wrong? No. As I said earlier, I would welcome evidence to the contrary, but given my level of certainty and all the other circumstances surrounding this issue, I have better things to do than to go looking for new evidence myself. Is that really what you expect me to do here? If so, how would you suggest I go about it even if I wanted to? Your best course of action is, obviously, to tell the customer off for being an idiot, and that you have better things to do than listening to BS like that. That's part one in 101 in customer relations. Of course, Sean can't do that. I, however, can. Stop being an idiot - Sean is being entirely reasonable in his approach and has got better things to do that listen to your BS. R. Mr. Bowes, He already has. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
The main SB3 volume control work in the digital domain, it's best to
leave this at 0Db/100%
If most music still sounds too loud compared to your other inputs to
the pre-amplifier/amplifier, use the slimserver web-interface and goto
Home / Player Settings for {SB3 name} / Audio.
In the PREAMP VOLUME CONTROL field, try some values so that the SB3
line-out level creates a similar volume to other line-in feeds to your
pre-amplifier/amplifier so you don't get a 'blast' when switching to
the SB3.
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input - How?
Heimiko;225785 Wrote: By now, I've also come along this problem now. It didn't occur at first, but sometimes I get glitches now too (when selecting a digital in). But simply turning off and on immediately fixes this. And by this, I don't mean power cycling, just press power 2 short times (off, and then back on). When is turned on, you get your digital input right away. Still not perfect, but I'm happy that it kinda works. Yes when I get digital input glitches I simply switch to another input and back (down-play-up-play), but when music gives no sound there is no way back without the restart. At least there wasn't before and I already uninstalled 7 until Inguz updates his plugin. Thx for the info anyway. -- nuhi nuhi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37722 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
opaqueice;225827 Wrote: This is at least the second time you've declared in a huff you were leaving the forum permanently and then come back a little later. I see the time off hasn't improved your personality. Is it? Nice to see you too! And you haven't changed a bit. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
Ah see what you mean. Bitrate 965 kps (CBR). I assume this is the buffer info the rest is FlAC, sample rate etc. Best Ivan -- IvanSlade IvanSlade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So, this new iPod Touch thing
DCtoDaylight;225734 Wrote: Well, certainly those of us using iTunes to organize their music collections should be able to! But given Apple's refusal to have anything to do with flac, I would guess the rest of you will be out of luck I do have to say tho, I'm a little disappointed that it's a flash based player, I had been hoping for the capacity of a hard disc. Cheers, Dave There's a fair bit of speculation that they have arranged the product line so that the iPod classic with the extra disk space is for the audiophiles and the Touch is for the gadget freaks who have to have the latest thing to impress their peer geeks. The odd thing is that I have found that the more you use an iPod, the less memory you want. I used to have all my music on my iPod, now it's a lot less at higher bit rates and I only really listen to a fraction of the songs on the move. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38195 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
Is the server wireless or wired? I would also suggest trying it with the SB3 wired to rule out h/w issues and possibly confirm wireless issues. You can fairly easily check wireless performance by using the 'buffer fullness' bar in the 'Now Playing' view. -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
P Floding;225807 Wrote: Mr. Bowes, He already has. No, he hasn't. Although you certainly deserve it. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
IvanSlade;225829 Wrote: It is wireless on a laptop about 1 meter away. Sean said last time that I did not need to hard wire the system and I do not think I have an RJ45 to hand. Where is the buffer status bar - sorry to be thick. Best Ivan Of course I don't have slimserver handy to look at, so I'm going to be a little vague here: You know how when you press Now Playing on the remote it cycles through different displays? One of the options there is to have a 'buffer fullness' bar where the 'time elapsed' bar is, but its not there by default. Somewhere there is a box you tick to include it - maybe under Player Settings-Display (in slimserver)? The 965 kbps bitrate is how much it has to stream for that flac file, which is why you may be having trouble - internet radio is usually only around 128 kbps, which is far easier over a bad connection (plus squeezenetwork doesn't have to hop to the server and back over wireless, it streams directly from the access point to the SB3) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So, this new iPod Touch thing
ezkcdude;225527 Wrote: The other thing I'm wondering about the Touch is whether you could actually stream music from your SlimServer database. *That would freakin' awesome!* I've been trying to find a way to get that to work with my iphone. Unfortunately the version of the safari browser it has won't play mp3 streams (in fact it will only play certain properly packaged quicktime streams). But if it ever becomes possible, I'll be able to listen to my entire music library any place, any time (so long as I have phone service at least). Not bad, eh? ;-) -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38195 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
IvanSlade;225851 Wrote: Hi, The nearest I seem to be able to get is the addition of Network Test under player settings/ menues. In that you can change the bit rate. Where the buffer info is, I cannot locate.I change the bit rate to 1,000 kps and it breaks up with an average reception of 23% periods of silence are around 4%. Best Ivan Well that's it then - wireless is the problem. Maybe try changing channels - maybe too many neighbours. What sort of access point? Current firmware? b or g? Good luck. -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
nicketynick;225854 Wrote: Well that's it then - wireless is the problem. Maybe try changing channels - maybe too many neighbours. What sort of access point? Current firmware? b or g? Good luck. I am on g band but it sounds correct I will change it to something like channel 1n a tick. Best Ivan -- IvanSlade IvanSlade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
cliveb;225841 Wrote: And IMHO you can also add to the ever-growing audio myth pile true 24-bit audio. Is there *any* device out there in the real world with a noise floor down at -144dB? (PS. I also think the digital volume control works just fine). Clive - by true 24-bit I simply mean that the files were (allegedly) recorded at 24-bit resolution. My whole point is that the last 4 bits don't have anything but noise in them IMHO - so I think we are agreeing :o) It certainly is possible to record 24-bit - I've done it...but I couldn't honestly say what's going on down there at the bottom as it were... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
Phil Leigh;225826 Wrote: I think we can add this to the ever-growing audio myth pile (you know - along with coax is always better than toslink - that sort of thing!) By the way, even with true 24-bit audio I reckon you can probably lose the last 4 bits or so without anyone actually noticing a change in sound quality... And IMHO you can also add to the ever-growing audio myth pile true 24-bit audio. Is there *any* device out there in the real world with a noise floor down at -144dB? (PS. I also think the digital volume control works just fine). -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] OT - please go away
P Floding wrote: opaqueice;225827 Wrote: This is at least the second time you've declared in a huff you were leaving the forum permanently and then come back a little later. I see the time off hasn't improved your personality. Is it? Nice to see you too! And you haven't changed a bit. Can you please either: 1. Contribute positively to these forums or 2. Go away. If I had any control over these forums at all I'd be privately issuing you with a warning and, if you didn't improve, banning you. It's really in your control. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input - How?
Still not fixed for me. If the music is paused switching to Optical Input will just produce some glitches, not actual sound. And switching from playing Optical will switch to music so that it seems like playing but no sound. Maybe only that last part is different, before it wouldn't move at all, now the visualization responds but no sound. Weird issue, no wonder they can't pin-point it when even we can't come to the conclusion. -- nuhi nuhi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10571 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37722 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
Well that was the answer. I set it to channel 1 and all is well. I must get home and check my system. (Small problem, when I minimize slimserver the music goes quiet, drops the signal.) Very many thanks for your swift and analytical response from over the otherside of the pond. Very best Wishes, Ivan -- IvanSlade IvanSlade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
P Floding wrote: seanadams;225730 Wrote: Yes. I have presented a plausible explanation which is supported by 100% of the evidence at hand, and I have explained why it is so. I have also explained why other mysterious phenomena, such as jitter, would not cause the reported symptoms. Do I think I'm right? Yes. Do I mind if I'm wrong? No. As I said earlier, I would welcome evidence to the contrary, but given my level of certainty and all the other circumstances surrounding this issue, I have better things to do than to go looking for new evidence myself. Is that really what you expect me to do here? If so, how would you suggest I go about it even if I wanted to? Your best course of action is, obviously, to tell the customer off for being an idiot, and that you have better things to do than listening to BS like that. That's part one in 101 in customer relations. Of course, Sean can't do that. I, however, can. Stop being an idiot - Sean is being entirely reasonable in his approach and has got better things to do that listen to your BS. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
My pleasure. Frankly, I just got lucky. :-) -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router http://www.last.fm/user/nicketynick/ nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
Phil Leigh;225846 Wrote: Clive - by true 24-bit I simply mean that the files were (allegedly) recorded at 24-bit resolution. My whole point is that the last 4 bits don't have anything but noise in them IMHO - so I think we are agreeing :o) It certainly is possible to record 24-bit - I've done it...but I couldn't honestly say what's going on down there at the bottom as it were... The Nibble of Noise? -- darrenyeats SB3 with Inguz - Sony DAS-703ES DAC - Krell KAV-300i - PMC AB-1 (home-made room treatments and supports) darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Using TP optical input - How?
nuhi;225784 Wrote: Still not fixed for me. If the music is paused switching to Optical Input will just produce some glitches, not actual sound. And switching from playing Optical will switch to music so that it seems like playing but no sound. Maybe only that last part is different, before it wouldn't move at all, now the visualization responds but no sound. Weird issue, no wonder they can't pin-point it when even we can't come to the conclusion. By now, I've also come along this problem now. It didn't occur at first, but sometimes I get glitches now too (when selecting a digital in). But simply turning off and on immediately fixes this. And by this, I don't mean power cycling, just press power 2 short times (off, and then back on). When is turned on, you get your digital input right away. Still not perfect, but I'm happy that it kinda works. -- Heimiko Transporter - XLR - Electrocompaniet ECI-3 - Dynaudio Audience 122 + BK Monolith Analog modded SB3 - tube buffer - Trends Audio TA-10 - Eltax Monitor III Heimiko's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3462 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=37722 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
nicketynick;225870 Wrote: My pleasure. Frankly, I just got lucky. :-) I would not call it luck really. I started this thread with the snap, crackle and pop problem that I had on my SB3s in the UK (modded and unmodded). Sean walked me through various ideas and isolated a few problems. I bought the trans.. and have had problems but as I have been away from the UK for 4 weeks the mind is fading as to what they are still. I scanned the neighbourhood for other WiFi(s) around here and this is the only one that was detected, I just used windows detect and not a scanner. The SB3 was set to the normal channel 6 and, as I wrote, I changed it to channel 1. A few songs are dropping out totally when I start a web page, for example (I set the slim server priority to high thinking it may be a polling problem), maybe CPU charge, I do not know. But there is another chap that recently was experiencing the same problem - about 10 or so mails previous. I believe it is a problem as I have experienced the same type of thing on 6 x SB3 and one transporter all of which have different amps etc. Just do not really understand but I feel it is a good 'system'; especially the transporter. Again, many thanks for your help even if you feel it was luck; it was kind of you to help me and I can fly home to the UK tomorrow with 'piece' of mind. Best, Ivan -- IvanSlade IvanSlade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
You can't agree here - this is the -Audiophile- forum! -- adamslim Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ 'Last.fm group: people who don't listen to any of last.fm's top artists' (http://www.last.fm/group/People+who+don%27t+listen+to+any+of+last.fm%27s+top+artists) SB+, EAR 859, Living Voice Auditorium II plus some other stuff SB3, Shek d2, Ming-Da MC84-C, Harbeth HL-P3ES adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3, best audio quality and sound level
Transporter sure gets close... it can definitely resolve 21 bits. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38233 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best digital output... Coax or Tos?
Chinanico;225754 Wrote: Have you tried to perform the listening test with unpluging (at the DAC side) the coax cable while you are listening to the toslink?... Hi Chinanico, Yes that is exactly right, the coax was completely unplugged (both ends) when the Toslink was in place. gdg;225679 Wrote: ...I'm of the opinion that any electrical noise (notorious in digital equipment)can potentially be transmitted through the coax cable. The advantage to electrically isolating the Squeezebox by using the optical connection goes well beyond ground loop humm. Hi gdg, In addition, I am not sure that a ground loop through an unbalanced *digital* coax connection would necessarily produce an analog 60Hz hum effect, as it can of course do through an unbalanced analog cable... but I could be mistaken. -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38188 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
seanadams;225730 Wrote: Yes. I have presented a plausible explanation which is supported by 100% of the evidence at hand, and I have explained why it is so. I have also explained why other mysterious phenomena, such as jitter, would not cause the reported symptoms. Do I think I'm right? Yes. Do I mind if I'm wrong? No. As I said earlier, I would welcome evidence to the contrary, but given my level of certainty and all the other circumstances surrounding this issue, I have better things to do than to go looking for new evidence myself. Is that really what you expect me to do here? If so, how would you suggest I go about it even if I wanted to? Your best course of action is, obviously, to tell the customer off for being an idiot, and that you have better things to do than listening to BS like that. That's part one in 101 in customer relations. -- P Floding No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if you ask me.) P Floding's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2932 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So, this new iPod Touch thing
CardinalFang;225834 Wrote: Only if you have a flat rate data plan, otherwise be prepared for the massive bill shock at the end of the month :-) It's a flat rate, fortunately! $20/month unlimited. Apparently the first few bills some iphone users got (it didn't happen to me for some reason) were something like 50 pages of itemized data charges, all for $0.00... -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38195 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Snap, Crackle and Pop
Did you ever sort it out enca? best Ivan -- IvanSlade IvanSlade's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12094 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36764 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
One question P Floding besides this smalltalk here atm. You, your Tact and your SB3 seem to have gone thru lots of evolution regarding your many improving reports all the time... Do you hear the defect that is described in this thread? -- Wombat Transporter - monoblocks - self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Warbling after 2 mins when listening to 24/96 FLAcs with Spec. Anlzr.
Hi I downloaded some 24/96 FLACs from the Linn website yesterday. When playing them the sound starts to kind of warbble after approximately 2 mins. It will stop as soon as I press a button on the remote and the screensaver turns off (spectrum analyzer). If I use any other screensaver there is no problem at all (I didn't try them all though). Any ideas anyone? Not a problem as I just won't use the spectrum analyzer now but has anyone seen this before? I'm using Slimserver 7 (latest build) with Transporter FW32. Could this be a bug with new Slimserver (or screensaver)? -- MikeFish MikeFish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38244 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
cliveb;224918 Wrote: I agree that very good A/D converters cost a lot of money. But we're talking about vinyl here, which is not really much of a challenge. I'd suggest that a Lucid AD9624, which can be had for under a grand, is easily good enough to transparently cope with anything that comes off a turntable. Probably even an old M-Audio Flying Calf would do fine. (And I say this as a user of a Linn LP12/Lingo/Ittok/Karma - it's not as if I don't appreciate decent vinyl replay). Contrast this to the price of the ATC SCA2 preamp, which costs about £4,000. I don't really have an obsession about eliminating the preamp. I just happen to think that it's worth doing if you can't afford the mega-price of a genuinely transparent preamp. I ditched a £2,500 preamp once I heard the improvement gained by removing it from the system. Clive, I am now running the same system as you, and it is the best system I have heard ;it will certainly keep me happy! Thanks for all the help. Transporter- ATC 100s. -- iwalker iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Warbling after 2 mins when listening to 24/96 FLAcs with Spec. Anlzr.
Sounds similar to http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4463 -- Mark Lanctot 'Sean Adams' Response-O-Matic checklist, patent pending!' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=200910postcount=2) Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38244 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Design miss in SB3 digital output? or Slimserver problem ?
Like 'truckfighters' and 'SoftWireEngineer', I too once recently had a problem with my SB3 that was fixed by unplugging/replugging the power source. When turning on the stereo system, a low-level but mid-to-high tone whining sound was coming through the speakers. I didn't know at first what component it was coming from, and at that time I was using the analog-outs of the SB3. During my troubleshooting steps, I noticed that when I unplugged the network cable from the SB3, the sound stopped after about 5-10 seconds (as the SB3 ultimately reacted to losing the network connection). Since the sound did persist for that 5-10 second period after unplugging the network cable, and since no other cable but the power was connected to the SB3 at the time, the sound was clearly coming from the SB3 itself and through its analog-outs. Finally, unplugging/replugging the power connection at the SB3 got rid of the whine sound - and fortunately it hasn't returned (although I am running digital-out to a DAC now, so even if the issue did occur again, it might not be as noticeable again). -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36503 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So, this new iPod Touch thing
CardinalFang;225828 Wrote: There's a fair bit of speculation that they have arranged the product line so that the iPod classic with the extra disk space is for the audiophiles and the Touch is for the gadget freaks who have to have the latest thing to impress their peer geeks. Ya but I'm and audiophile AND a techno dweeb! I want my cake and to eat it too! CardinalFang;225828 Wrote: The odd thing is that I have found that the more you use an iPod, the less memory you want. I used to have all my music on my iPod, now it's a lot less at higher bit rates and I only really listen to a fraction of the songs on the move. Your point is certainly valid, even the 160 gig Classic won't hold everything unless I convert it to lossy compression. I guess it becomes a question of how often I want to re-load. It just seems odd to me, that the player with the biggest screen and is best suited for video, doesn't have the big capacity As always your mileage may vary! Dave -- DCtoDaylight DCtoDaylight's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38195 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 Question: Should there be a new forum for photos? - yes - no - maybe SB3 w/ Inguz DSP NAD C720BEE NAD C542 Paradigm Studio 20 BW ASW600 +---+ |Filename: IMG_1486.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=3274| +---+ -- esbrewer esbrewer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12409 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19817 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] So, this new iPod Touch thing
DCtoDaylight;225936 Wrote: Ya but I'm and audiophile AND a techno dweeb! I want my cake and to eat it too! Your point is certainly valid, even the 160 gig Classic won't hold everything unless I convert it to lossy compression. I guess it becomes a question of how often I want to re-load. That's exactly what I do with my 80GB iPod (which has too little capacity for my library, so a 160GB Classic is soon on its way). I sort of get around the conversion step by ripping everything in one step to both gapless FLAC (managed by SlimServer/Ubuntu) and gapless iTunes AAC (managed by iTunes/XP), which gives me lossless for my more critical listening environment at home and lossy for fitting on my portable player, which is almost always used in more challenging environments where higher quality playback would be wasted. Having my cake and eating it too :). -- Balthazar_B Balthazar_B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7366 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=38195 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
