Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
soundcheck;627153 Wrote: What do you mean with at first it is great? Even on 24/96 there should be plenty of headroom - on a wired connection. The Touch should buffer enough data that XRUNS shouldn't occur. Are you decoding the flacs on the server? How about 44.1/16? Is that rate running stable? Can you tweak the router QoS settings? Hi soundcheck, i hv been off line for a few days and thanks v much for your reply: 1. I checked the 44.1/16 and its stable 2. I run it wired, on a dlink 655 router, shielded cat5 (am getting cat6a but can tfnd good ones) to a dlink hub 1005d, unshield patch cord to touch and then spdif toslink to dac. 3. I tried the 100bps half duplex mode and it works smoothly 4. When i first initially set it up i said it works smoothly because i was playing radio.. 5. I usually set flac decode native on touch rather than pcm coz i have some 192 music, i tried flac pcm but did not solve the crackling problem. 6. I looked into the qos, but there arent much things there that i understand.. Would you recommend that i use the half duplex mode instead? Or the default auto mode? Is there any specific qos setting i should modify that could solve the problem? The server is totally dedicated for touch. Btw, the linear psu for hub that you recommend, would just any 5v1a linear psu works? There some no brand wall plug type linear psu i find here in china which cost just maybe 20usd, i can't find any better ones in a metal box.. Many thanks! Harry -- Helloharry Helloharry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade from touch+cambridge 840c
Guidof, soundcheck, phil, and others.. Thanks so much for all of your advises and sharing of experiences, e consensus seems to be that, most of you are doubtful that upgrading the dac do much especially from investment return angle. However at this stage i am quite happy with my amp/spk combo and will follow your advise probably to hit big on speaker in the soon future and hopefully not too soon. Actually, i have read on other threads about room corrections and i am getting the inguz and the mic and recording setup to see, at the same time also wait for any new mods from soundcheck :) Cheers. Harry -- Helloharry Helloharry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VU meters?
For no reason I can explain I was looking at the VU meters in Squeezeplay - and on the Touch - and I noticed they never get over -6dB... I know they aren't 100% accurate but even so... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87317 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Recently I've been investigating RFI/EMI around my system. This followed a complete re-wiring that I completed after I had a new floor laid in the lounge and had to dismantle everything. My system is pretty complex - 30 mains/power cables! Anyway, most of my system has shielded (or twisted) mains IEC leads. However, three items didn't: 1) LCD TV (basically a computer) 2) Blu-ray player (basically a computer) 3) SKY HD box (basically a computer). I replaced the leads with shielded ones - the Sky and Blu-ray needed Telefunken-IED adaptors, which I got from Russ Andrews. The cables were not exotic but were well made and very reasonably priced from eBAY. Even though two of the three items are in standby mode (the SKY box is nearly always active!) when listening to music, there is still some detectable RFI coming from their normal mains leads - this has now been pretty much eliminated. I have an Elfix detector that can pick up RFI (although it is rather crude - but effective). Early listening tests indicate a very slightly more relaxed sound. Certainly worth investigating as a low cost tweak. To be clear I don't believe this has anything to do with the cables themselves, but in the general reduction in RF around/near the system which MAY be affecting the amps, DAC or even Touch. I also relocated the base station for my wireless phone to the opposite end of the house at the same time. Next step is to examine the various cheap and nasty SMPS's that I have nearby which supply: 1) wireless router 2) LCD photoframe 3) external USB drive 4) USB hub I have attached ferrite clamps to all DC leads from these already. However, I see that locating any kind of linear DC supplies is getting harder - especially for the 1 amp+ variety ! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
You might find some of the products from 'Holland Shielding systems' (http://www.hollandshielding.com/) worthwhile - insulating foils, cable wraps, faraday cages - even a faraday tent! -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
JezA;627840 Wrote: You might find some of the products from 'Holland Shielding systems' (http://www.hollandshielding.com/) worthwhile - insulating foils, cable wraps, faraday cages - even a faraday tent! cool - a Faraday tent... :-) thanks... I'm sure some of you will think I'm nuts. Maybe I am. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade from touch+cambridge 840c
A friend of mine went from 840C to Naim DAC. He felt that it was a significant upgrade. Actually, we both upgraded our digital setups to nDACs at the same time. -- Kuja Kuja's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32935 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade from touch+cambridge 840c
Kuja;627860 Wrote: A friend of mine went from 840C to Naim DAC. He felt that it was a significant upgrade. Actually, we both upgraded our digital setups to nDACs at the same time. Kuja, was your friend using touch as transport for both 840c and naim dac? -- Helloharry Helloharry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Phil Leigh;627854 Wrote: cool - a Faraday tent... :-) thanks... I'm sure some of you will think I'm nuts. Maybe I am. Faraday Tent. I can only imagine that something like this in the living room would take low-WAF to new, and as yet unexplored depths. I guess it's off to Radio Shack this Saturday to hopefully grab a bag or two of ferrite clamps. Thanks for the reminder Phil. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)
Hi all, just have the inguz installed on my win7 server, and got a behringer ecm8000 mic and a lexicon omega box, mic stand, xlr-xlr mic cable, rca-phone jack line in/out cable AND a digital coaxial rca cable just in case..having read this thread i know this will be quite frustrating but you are right IT IS ;). Here are some issues i encounter and hopefully someone can help: 1. I have the inguz installed and a new screen show up under extras/eq, under server setting/plugins the eq box is checked and rebooted twice..but i dont see in the players setting manual where there should be new items... 2. I adjusted the bands on the extra/eq screen with a chart where its flat..there dont seems to be any sonic change when i moveabut the bands.. 3. Lexicon omega - i installed the usb driver, but not the cubae le4 program (since i suppose i will using audacity) the audacity program dont recognize the lexicon under recording device pull down menu.. 4. Shall i use the rca-phone jack cable bewteen my dac analog out and lexicon line in, or should i use the rca digital coaxial cable for dac digital out and spdif port on the lexicon? Thanks!! Harry -- Helloharry Helloharry's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=45756 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=77084 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
I'm not a believer in exotic powercords, but adding a shielded Belden Powercable (solidly assembled with good plugs, 2m for a reasonable 30,-) to my Rega DAC made a nice difference, especially purer treble and a cleaner background. -- Dura Dura's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39937 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VU meters?
Calibrated to max amplitude but in fact averaging? Just a guess. -- Soulkeeper -that is not dead which can eternal lie. and with strange aeons even death may die.- touch + duet + boom + radio / wrt160n/dd-wrt / sbs 7.5.1 or higher/win7(32b)/avira free Soulkeeper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35297 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87317 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VU meters?
could be a result of using replay gain -- Matt B Matt 7.4.3 r30236 on SheevaPlug SB3 - Beresford Caiman DAC - HLLY T90 - Jordan JX92S VTL SB2 - Aego M Matt B's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6215 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87317 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Phil Leigh;627854 Wrote: I'm sure some of you will think I'm nuts. Maybe I am. I'm looking forward to your next report! My tv picture was rather iffy, so wound sticky tape silver foil around the tv lead, and the ntl box lead, earthed it at the plug end, things improved. I was thinking it was interference affecting the lead, it had not occured to me that the leads them selves may be causing some of the interference... cool All my stereo wires are shielded, from trying a Nordost Blue Heaven a while back which generated a loud hum, that improved with tin foil around it. So all IC's power cables and speaker cables are all shielded. All very interesting stuff I think. -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Loads and loads of power-line filters 'here' (http://www.hollandshielding.com/index.php?p=Nieuwsid=150Lang=2). Whose hi-fi is in a truly shielded case? Is the plastic over the display shielded? Are the mains-inlets? If not the RF hobgoblins will find their way in and out effortlessly. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
We seem to have come a long way from the days when merely eliminating breakthrough of the local taxi firm on the phono input was considered a major victory. Who else here remembers tying a reef knot in the turntable output cable? -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VU meters?
It isn't because of an (excessive) offset introduced by Inguz to prevent clipping, is it? -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87317 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Upgrade from touch+cambridge 840c
Helloharry;627802 Wrote: Guidof, soundcheck, phil, and others.. Thanks so much for all of your advises and sharing of experiences, e consensus seems to be that, most of you are doubtful that upgrading the dac do much especially from investment return angle. However at this stage i am quite happy with my amp/spk combo and will follow your advise probably to hit big on speaker in the soon future and hopefully not too soon. Actually, i have read on other threads about room corrections and i am getting the inguz and the mic and recording setup to see, at the same time also wait for any new mods from soundcheck :) Cheers. Harry Before you look at room correction make sure you have optimised your speaker and seating positioning (some of the Audio Physics method has worked for me) and try out some bass traps. I am still evaluating which kind are best for my rooms - sonically and aesthetically - but I know from experience they work. If after that you still want room correction do that too. There are several reasons to do it last though. Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch SqueezeControl for Android darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87098 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VU meters?
adamdea;627918 Wrote: It isn't because of an (excessive) offset introduced by Inguz to prevent clipping, is it? Nope... checked that. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87317 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VU meters?
Matt B;627903 Wrote: could be a result of using replay gain RG on or off doesn't change the VU display... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87317 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Lol. I never understood why Naim bothered to design a tuner when a NAC12 got so many stations. -- JezA JezA's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21219 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
JezA;627937 Wrote: ..But I also suspect the reason your hifi sounds better at night has got nothing to do with 'mains pollution' whatsoever. So what's your theory? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ASUS announces DAC
ob_kook;627598 Wrote: But the bezel is pretty cool, and the Qin Long etched into the top is said to decrease jitter. It actually probably DOES decrease jitter. An aluminum top plate like that will support surface acoustic waves, these reflect off the edges and create standing waves. This gives rise to fairly high Q resonances in the audio range (the infamous rings like a bell). The vibrations from these resonances WILL increase the jitter of any crystal oscillators in the box. Putting a complex engraving on the surface causes the surface acoustic waves to bounce around in all different directions, thus breaking up the standing waves and preventing the resonances from happening, thus lowering the jitter of the oscillators. I've done this on my own equipment using aluminum plates, it really does prevent the resonances from happening and is far more effective at vibration control than most techniques such as cones etc. John S. -- JohnSwenson JohnSwenson's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5974 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87286 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
cliveb;627911 Wrote: We seem to have come a long way from the days when merely eliminating breakthrough of the local taxi firm on the phono input was considered a major victory. Who else here remembers tying a reef knot in the turntable output cable? Years ago, I had a bleed that played the local FM station even though I didn't have a tuner in the system. P -- pski real stereo doesn't just wake the neighbors, it -enrages- them.. It is truly the Golden Age of Wireless pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
I'm with JezA. For me, background noise is the biggest factor. Blanking out constant background noise comes naturally but we notice it when it's gone. Darren -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. SB3, SB Touch SqueezeControl for Android darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Phil Could you post a link to the cable you bought, please? I recently bought MIT Magnum AC1, but hardly see any change. Yes, the sound might be more relaxed, but.. I might be dreaming as well... --Michael -- michael123 Please fix http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16814 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] VU meters?
Phil Leigh;627821 Wrote: For no reason I can explain I was looking at the VU meters in Squeezeplay - and on the Touch - and I noticed they never get over -6dB... I know they aren't 100% accurate but even so... In Transporter they can easily go up to 0db and even higher.. Ouch -- michael123 Please fix http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16814 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87317 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Problem when Playing WAW on SBT
Hi. I have a problem with playing WAW files usually 96k/24b on SBT. Then the sound coming out of the SBT sounds like a FM tuner that is tuned in between two stations. (Noise only). Well It Usually the first couple of times works OK when I start to play a song. Then the Noise comes every time i start to play a WAW file. It is possible to play Flac and MP3 files. But when I return to play WAW, the Noise returns. I have setup the Squeezebox server to play the waw files following: In filetypes: WAW Flac Deactivated MP3 Deactivated PCM Native There are No problem with noise, only wonderful music in the speakers when: 1) When I play the same 96k/24bWAW files using the buildin SBS in the SBT. (in this case the SBS in the SBT does NOT Convert using sox) 2) setup the Squeezebox server to play WAW Flac Flac/sox MP3 Deactivated PCM Native I have tested this problem and it occurs on Squeezebox server ver: officiel releases 7.5.3, 7.5.4 and two builds(32302 and 32364) of the 7.6.0 It is tested using two different MAC computers. (2.53GHz Mac mini and 2.66GHzMac Book Pro.) both running OSX 10.6.7. Both running via WLan. I have only tested the Spdif Coax output because I'm using an external DAC. The problem is only when playing WAW files. Then why do I play WAW instead of Flac? I have read Soundchecks threads and studied his Toolbox in following link: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 When reading that Soundcheck could hear different between transcoding and Native playing Flac files. Then I asked my self why in the world playing FLAC when the HDD today has the size enough for WAW files. I also converted some Flac files(HDtrack downloaded) to WAW and did A-B tests between Flac and WAW. and Sorry to say it but every time the WAW file was played the sound was much more realistic, better perspective, depth, micro dynamics etc. This was tested when playing the files from a USB memory stick via the buildin SBS in the SBT Please see 1). I then wanted to make the same test using the same setting of files on the Squeezebox server Please see 2). and now only Noise comes out of the speakers. I have attached a log file that should include the issue. Does anybody have the same issue? and a solution to fix it? +---+ |Filename: slimserver27042011.log.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11775| +---+ -- Caad Caad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9350 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87331 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
michael123;627976 Wrote: Phil Could you post a link to the cable you bought, please? I recently bought MIT Magnum AC1, but hardly see any change. Yes, the sound might be more relaxed, but.. I might be dreaming as well... --Michael Sure thing: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Audio-Friendly-SHIELDED-IEC-Mains-Power-Cable-1-metre-/220551462351?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RLhash=item3359e43dcf -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter balanced output?
I've recently added an Audio Analogue Maestro Setanta to my TP. Using balanced, the change in tone is massive. Single-ended was OK, but definitely 'thin' and 'toppy' on much material. On balanced, the 'sizzle' has been toned down and there's a much richer, fuller sound. -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0
Not long got my SBT sorted with the toolbox mods, wired straight to my router, through the lounge, kitchen and conservatory. A new area for my ears to get in tune with I believe, a cymbal, with my SB2 sounded good to me, with the touch factory settings, it was quite easy to tell the SB2 was somewhat out of focus, maybe the cymbal source sound came from about a 4 foot wide source of sound, with the touch in play sounded far more like a pin point source of sound, untill the mods were applied and they made the factory touch sound out of focus, by about a foot wide sound source point, to what now seems like a pin point sound source, in comparison... :-D Cool Stuff!! Put the long wire away, plugged in my SB2 as a wireless bridge, and lost some focus :-( -Going to try a linear psu for the SB2 soon one hopes- fingers crossed it may get close to the wired sound. Quite amazed at the effect of these mods, A HUGE THANK YOU, to you Klaus for developing such a modification toolkit, very clever stuff!! -- Deaf Cat Deaf Cat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=515 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Problem when Playing WAW on SBT
There are no errors in the log, I suspect your problem lies in the way some of your wav files have been created. It is possible that some of them have non-standard headers. Also you are MUCH better to keep your files on disk as FLAC and get proper tagging and better integration with SBS. If you really want to stream them as PCM to your Touch then you can do this. However, please note that if you are streaming wav as pcm or flac as pcm you cannot use 176.4 or 192 files, because SOX is not invoked in these modes. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC - MF M1 DAC - Linn 5103 - full Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Pekin Tuner, Townsend Supertweeters, Blue Jeans Belden Digital,Kimber 8TC Speaker Chord Signature Plus Interconnect cables Stax4070+SRM7/II phones Kitchen Boom, Outdoors: SB Radio, Harmony One remote for everything. Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87331 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter balanced output?
Ron Olsen;529263 Wrote: I use a Parasound Halo A23 amp (http://www.parasound.com/halo/a23.php) with balanced inputs, auto on/off, with my Transporter to drive Sonus Faber Cremona Auditor speakers. Fabulous sound to my ears. For more power, check out the Halo 21 amp: http://www.parasound.com/halo/a21.php Great bang for the buck. I use the Halo P3 preamp with Halo 21 amp all with balanced from the Transporter. Not driving the kinds of speakers as you guys, but I couldn't be more pleased with the setup and the amp/preamp is quite good for the moderate price. -- garym garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ASUS announces DAC
@JohnSwenson - my tongue was planted firmly in cheek as I wrote that, but thanks for the informative reply. @earwaxer9 - after your post I've been researching more of the up to $1500 DACs and it seems as though the Wyred4Sound are extremely highly regarded. I'm going to have to try and audition one at some point. -- ob_kook Duet -- Axiom passive pre -- Portal Paladin monoblocks -- Dynaudio Contour 1.3 MKII SB2 -- Denon AVR4800 -- Klipsch KG4 Squeezebox Boom Squeezeserver running on a virtual Win7 machine within 2008 R2 Server Hyper-V ob_kook's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1383 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87286 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter balanced output?
Get an emotiva xpa2... Balanced with reasonable price and good customer service -- MediaCenter Source Device: Transporter Amplifiers: Tri-Amped NAD C272 x 3 Speakers: x-Statik Passive Crossover Removed Crossover: Active MiniDSP x 2 (3 Way) Pre-amplifier: NAD C162 Room Correction applied using REW MediaCenter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32623 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Connect Transporter Directly to Focal Solo6 Studio Monitors
Hello all, after years of owning a dozen Squeezebox devices and enjoying them at home and in the office, now is time for my first post - good to be here. I'm a proud new owner of Transporter SE (the model where the TransNav knob is removed). I'm connecting the Transporter directly to my Focal Solo6 Be powered speakers via balanced XLRs, no preamp in between, except a NHT Passive Volume Control (PVC Pro basically a balanced level attenuator). Transporter digital volume is fixed at 100%, and I manually adjust the volume on NHT PVC Pro. As all the experts in this forum know, the Transporter's balanced analog output is 3V rms and fixed at -0dB attenuation. On the Focal powered speakers, I have two Input Sensitivity options: +4dBu and -10dBV. According to Focal, The +4dBu position is suitable for standard professional audio equipment, while -10dBV position may be used for other types of sources providing a lesser output level. My question is which Input Sensitivity option I should select on the Focal speakers to properly work with the output coming directly from the Transporter XLRs? +4dBu or -10dBV? Thank you! BTW, in case it matters to the answer to my question, soon I will add the matching Focal Sub6 powered subwoofer to this configuration, and also replace the NHT PVC Pro with Goldpoint SA2XM-I (4-section stepped attenuator) for balanced level control on both of the stereo channels. -- reachpeng reachpeng's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46126 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87335 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] can we have our digital cake and eat it too?
So.. I've been listening now for a few. Sure, granted, my sessions are a bit on the hammered side! What I can say so farFatigue on the softer filter is less. I have about half of my collection converted to the more intermediate filter. When I shuffle the songs I frequently cant remember what filer has been applied. My accuracy is about 50/50 on whether it has the hard or soft. Not real good on the DBT. When I reflect on the sound, even if I get the guess wrong, I can say that the softer filter is a bit more agreeable. Not a big difference though. Thats good. I have probably gotten used to the crisper highs of the hard filter. Its probably not very real though. Enjoyment is what its about! Rock on! -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable. earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87290 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Connect Transporter Directly to Focal Solo6 Studio Monitors
Using your balanced Transporter outputs, to the balanced inputs on the Focals: The +4dbu setting would be the most appropriate. The -10dbv setting could probably be used, but *may* result in having to turn something down excessively to achieve a satisfactory listening level. This is poor gain staging, and reduces S/N ratio, and can introduce issues with sometimes uneven volume control tracking near the extremes of the pot travel. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87335 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Connect Transporter Directly to Focal Solo6 Studio Monitors
Thank you Curt962! I experimented briefly with both, and I would agree with you. +4 sounds good. -10 sounds loud. -10 did not sound bad, but clearly the Focal's built-in amp took it up a notch to compensate for what it believes to be a lesser level of source input. Initially I thought -10 was the better setting for the Focal, because it sounded loud and full bodied, much more so than +4 (for the same volume on the passive NHT PVC Pro). But when I cranked up the volume, the level became way too high... When I went back to the +4 setting on the Focal, and turned up the volume on PVC by about 12dB, I was able to achieve about the same loudness as the -10 setting. And as I turn the volume towards the max, it gets very loud, but not unbearable. Unlike the -10 setting at high volume, +4 did not become excessive. This leads me to believe that if the balanced outputs are plugged straight into the Focal's balanced inputs, without even the passive attenuator in between, the level matching would be just about right - I guess it is referred to as maximum listening level. With the attenuator, I can then dial the volume back down from the max to a comfortable listening level without losing any S/N ratio. -- reachpeng reachpeng's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=46126 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87335 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Connect Transporter Directly to Focal Solo6 Studio Monitors
Wonderful!That should be a fine sounding set-up you've assembled. Enjoy! -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87335 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
I had a 20ft cat7 ethernet connection to my Transporter. Much better shielding than the cat5e. To make a long story short - I didnt really notice a difference when I switched out from the cat5e. When it broke the cat7 I put the el-cheapo cat5e back in. Again - no difference. I'm not saying that shielding etc. makes no difference! What is encouraging, is the ethernet or wifi path to transmitting data to the DAC. More power to squeezebox! -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable. earwaxer9's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=39527 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Shielded Mains Cables
Here in my Jungle abode, one would think that they were relatively free from the EMI/RFI issues experienced elsewhere. Not so. I just installed a power conditioner in my travel system and was a bit surprised that the sound DID change. Phil described it as More relaxed in his system. The change to me in my system sounded as if a tone control had been turned down a notch in the treble. Not as bright as before. Perhaps a bit more soothing on the ear. As is some sort of hash that you never noticed before had been suddenly removed. After a few days of listening, I dropped the level of my sub very slightly to get the tonal balance back to where I like it. Interesting. Looking around, I see no fewer than six (6) SMPS, 2 cell phones, a PC, and a wireless router in the same room. That's where this low-level grit, glare and hash comes from I'll wager. Measures taken to minimize the effects of this noise into the audio components via ferrites, and foil/braid shielding has merits. I suspect that when people hear HUGE cough, choke differences in power cables...they aren't hearing special wire, or cryo, or any of the other nonsense...they're hearing the shielding. Proven effective in decades of testing. My $0.02 -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=87319 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter balanced output?
+1 on the Emotiva. They have some outstanding products. 30 day N.Q.A. money back guarantee, and a better warranty (5 years transferable) than many automobiles. There's nothing to lose. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76644 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
