Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
TimT wrote: > Perhaps. Consider this: John Audiophile has just dropped $15,000 on a > pair of speakers, $7500 on amplification and playback. What > interconnects does he buy? $15 for a pair of 10-foot speaker cables? Or > does he spend $300 on a "name brand" pair? Maybe $300 won't buy him > better sound; but almost certainly, John A thinks, it won't buy him > worse sound. No question that John can afford to spend more. What would > you do? What does the "rational audiophile" do?I'll answer i.r.o. what I did > and have stayed with having dropped $30,000 in 2004 money on a pair of active speakers and preamplifier. I bought a run of Belden 1800F and as many Neutrik connectors as I needed to make up interconnects from DAC to preamp and preamp to speakers, had them made up and soldered using silver solder. Over the years I've had many audiophiles through my place, many with exotic cable in hand to prove I was missing something. After listening they've all left disappointed. SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/) | 'ATC SCM100ASLT' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/loudspeakers/tower-series/scm100aslt/) *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* - now packaged in most Linux distributions. audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS / IMPRESSIONS: PCM 24/192 vs. Decoded MQA using Meridian Explorer2
Nice! "...the noise tonally is higher with a rising noise level above 5kHz" <- especially above 7.5kHz can this be the 'sparkle' itself? Be it added harmonics, EQ or other DSP? Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105194 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
audiomuze wrote: > Take cables ... a fool and their money are soon parted. Perhaps. Consider this: John Audiophile has just dropped $15,000 on a pair of speakers, $7500 on amplification and playback. What interconnects does he buy? $15 for a pair of 10-foot speaker cables? Or does he spend $300 on a "name brand" pair? Maybe $300 won't buy him better sound; but almost certainly, John A thinks, it won't buy him worse sound. No question that John can afford to spend more. What would you do? What does the "rational audiophile" do? TimT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22971 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
Take cables ... a fool and their money are soon parted. SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/) | 'ATC SCM100ASLT' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/loudspeakers/tower-series/scm100aslt/) *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* - now packaged in most Linux distributions. audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS / IMPRESSIONS: PCM 24/192 vs. Decoded MQA using Meridian Explorer2
Well... Got hold of some recordings off the Explorer2 DAC with MQA decoding enabled. No surprise. Still looks like 16-bit dynamic range limitation as I suspected. I was able to ABX the difference reasonably well. Check it out: 'PCM 24/192 vs. Decoded MQA with Meridian Explorer2' (http://archimago.blogspot.ca/2016/02/measurements-impressions-meridian.html) Have a great week ahead everyone! Archimago's Musings: (archimago.blogspot.com) A 'more objective' audiophile blog. Archimago's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2207 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105194 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Gravitational Waves
Julf wrote: > This new technology necessitates maintaining a double inventory, as all > cables shipped to the southern hemisphere must have their conductor > strands wound in the opposite direction. Surely the use of one of these cables in the southern hemisphere must also necessitate the use of an "opposite" cable in the northern hemisphere? Otherwise he's putting the Earth out of balance. For example, for every cable shipped to Australia there should be a cable stored in a warehouse in the UK (for an annual fee - obviously) LMS Version: 7.9 TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - WHS 2011 2x Touch, 3x SB3 bonze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6150 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105189 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
audiomuze wrote: > agreed, and it's surpassed only by stupidity. As a reformed audiophile I have to either disagree or take the fifth ( https://www.google.com/#newwindow=1=off=take+the+fifth ). Often times the answer to something is hiding in plain sight and all one needs to do is connect the dots in the proper order. Back in high school and college I learned how to read equipment specifications and then learned how to really read specs and began to see what the manufacturer was trying to hide. My growing distrust of mass market audio moved me towards high end audio, albeit at the "most bang for the buck" end of things, and once again I had to relearn how to specs, which for the most part are badly misused in high end audio, in fact way more than in mass market audio. And then along came computer based digital audio and audio equipment, especially front ends, became more about proper/pure fidelity and less about euphonic coloration. And as I slowly started connecting the dots, I came to distrust much of what is written in the high end audio media. I still understand the need for something better than mass market audio but with today's rapidly rising prices it's more important than ever to find audio equipment that offers great value for the money. Such as the Squeezebox Touch, the best $300 I ever spent on a piece of audio equipment. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Gravitational Waves
bonze wrote: > Surely the use of one of these cables in the southern hemisphere must > also necessitate the use of an "opposite" cable in the northern > hemisphere? > Otherwise he's putting the Earth out of balance. > > For example, for every cable shipped to Australia there should be a > cable stored in a warehouse in the UK (for an annual fee - obviously) I guess it would be cataclysmic if an owner of a cable travelled with his cable to the opposite hemisphere'**' (https://www.google.ca/search?client=ubuntu=O7k=fs=cataclysmic=1=X=0ahUKEwjAtK2UkPjKAhXJmR4KHZ00AD0QvwUIGSgA=1088=510) Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 145495 @ Mon Feb 8 19:16:07 UTC 2016 Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux Perl Version: 5.18.2 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1) One SB Touch connected by ethernet - Denon AVR -1912 Receiver, Paradigm 4.1 speakers Two SB Radios wireless SlimChances's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=165 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105189 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Gravitational Waves
Julf wrote: > Appropriately the 'Real HD Audio blog of Mark Waldrep' > (http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=5574) had this pearl yesterday: > > "Wait, theres more: > To make the best even better, our Earth MFC (Magnetic Field > Cancellation) option can be added for only $30,000. As the name implies, > Earth MFC cancels the negative effects of the earths magnetic field, > using precision calibrated magnetometers coupled to proprietary > monitoring circuitry. The monitoring circuitry is necessary to maintain > calibration should the planets magnetic poles ever reverse. I hope there is a toggle switch as the earth's magnetic field is due for a reversal. ;) Greg Erskine's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7403 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105189 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
Wombat wrote: > I see some audio engineers really can measure or demonstrate technical > differences. These things are often far, far from being audible but are > taken as proof. > The bad thing is that exactly this creates audiophils that are > absolutely rational to other aspects of live but when it comes to audio > their imagination gets tricked only because they believe in it. > > > @arnyk > Nice to see you and i hope you are fine. Very few posts of yours lately. I've said it many times before that measurements and high end audio work two ways: 1) measurements are given as proof that A must sound better than B. For example A has measurable (but still not audible) jitter and B has even less (lower) jitter. Or A is a standard resolution file (24 bit and 44.1kHz) and B is a high resolution file (24bit and 96kHz) 2) measurements cannot show why A sounds so good. This argument is ALWAYS used for ALL tube equipment and ALL vinyl playback equipment. Remember when money is involved, and money is always the primary driver in all things high end audio, hypocrisy has no bounds. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
ralphpnj wrote: > ...in all things high end audio, hypocrisy has no bounds.agreed, and it's > surpassed only by stupidity. SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/) | 'ATC SCM100ASLT' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/loudspeakers/tower-series/scm100aslt/) *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* - now packaged in most Linux distributions. audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
Mnyb wrote: > I think the audiophile culture actually traps some reasonable people now > and then . Its not hard to see why 99% of the so called "information" > the audiophile can enjoy in magazines and online is of very questinable > quality . I never seen any other hobby where almost all "knowledge" is > totally bogus and every magazine or forum or blog feeds you 99% nonsense > and lies . If you then does not have any enginnering background or > otherwise experienced in critical thinking ? I may not be easy to see > trough this. I can name another group where 99% of the "information" and"knowledge" is just nonsense and lies - The US Republican party. Just a tad bit more important than high end audio, although the Republicans do follow almost the exact playbook as high end audio. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
ralphpnj wrote: > I can name another group where 99% of the "information" and"knowledge" > is just nonsense and lies - The US Republican party. Just a tad bit more > important than high end audio, although the Republicans do follow almost > the exact playbook as high end audio. Not going to touch the politics with a 3-metre pole, but I think what we are seeing in high end audio, politics, health fads etc. is actually rejection of science and escapism - into "my opinion is just as valid as that of all those fancy PhDs". "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
ralphpnj wrote: > No I really do mean audiophiles and NOT audiophools since I don't > believe that audiophiles are fools. I believe that the vast majority of > audiophiles have been fooled into believing so much nonsense by a very > complex system that is working very hard to separate them from their > money. The way you phrase it implies that the conspiracy is being perpetrated by organisations and individuals who have full knowledge that they are lying and it is all nonsense. But I think that the vast majority of high-end audio manufacturers actually believe their own propaganda. Which in a way is even more shocking: the vendors of items of engineering don't actually understand the engineering they are delivering. Keep in mind Hanlon's razor: "never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by stupidity"? Transporter -> ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
cliveb wrote: > The way you phrase it implies that the conspiracy is being perpetrated > by organisations and individuals who have full knowledge that they are > lying and it is all nonsense. > > But I think that the vast majority of high-end audio manufacturers > actually believe their own propaganda. > Which in a way is even more shocking: the vendors of items of > engineering don't actually understand the engineering they are > delivering. > > Keep in mind Hanlon's razor: "never ascribe to malice that which can be > explained by stupidity"? Current understandings of perception and memory suggest that initially these people may have been well-tutored in the basics, and knew them very well. However, years of success with we might call "Alternative wisdom" has literally changed their minds. The name John Atkinson somehow comes to mind. ;-) arnyk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=64365 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
Julf wrote: > Not going to touch the politics with a 3-metre pole, but I think what we > are seeing in high end audio, politics, health fads etc. is actually > rejection of science and escapism - into "my opinion is just as valid as > that of all those fancy PhDs". I agree and therefore apologize for my lapse into politics. However I don't think of it as a rejection of science but rather a rejection of any science which gets in the way of profits, which is why Al Gore used the label "An Inconvenient Truth". cliveb wrote: > The way you phrase it implies that the conspiracy is being perpetrated > by organisations and individuals who have full knowledge that they are > lying and it is all nonsense. > > But I think that the vast majority of high-end audio manufacturers > actually believe their own propaganda. > Which in a way is even more shocking: the vendors of items of > engineering don't actually understand the engineering they are > delivering. > > Keep in mind Hanlon's razor: "never ascribe to malice that which can be > explained by stupidity"? I believe that most high end audio engineers and designers fully understand the science of audio but they are only a small part of the team that make up a high end audio manufacturer. It's the marketing people and others who are directing these engineers into the world of voodoo science. For example I believe that the engineering team which developed Audioquest's Jitterbug know full well that it's a complete waste of money but that money is paying their salaries. arnyk wrote: > Current understandings of perception and memory suggest that initially > these people may have been well-tutored in the basics, and knew them > very well. However, years of success with we might call "Alternative > wisdom" has literally changed their minds. The name John Atkinson > somehow comes to mind. ;-) Even hinting that John Atkinson (or for that matter Robert Harley) has or ever had any understanding of the basics of audio engineering is completely laughable and an insult to all engineers, not just audio engineers. They are both plain and simply shills for their advertisers. Giving them even the slightest hint of respectability is exactly how they are able to succeed. I much prefer to call them what they really are - people who lie for money. Living Rm: Transporter-SimAudio pre/power amps-Vandersteen 3A Sign. & sub Home Theater: Touch-Marantz HTR-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Linn sub Computer Rm: Touch-Headroom Desktop w/DAC-Aragon amp-Energy Veritas 2.1 & Energy sub Bedroom: Touch-HR Desktop w/DAC-Audio Refinement amp-Energy Veritas 2.0 Guest Rm: Duet-Sony soundbar Garage: SB3-JVC compact system Controls: iPeng; SB Controller; Moose & Muso Server: LMS 7.9 on dedicated windows 10 computer w/2 Drobos 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/) ralphpnj's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10827 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
I see some audio engineers really can measure or demonstrate technical differences. These things are often far, far from being audible but are taken as proof. The bad thing is that exactly this creates audiophils that are absolutely rational to other aspects of live but when it comes to audio their imagination gets tricked only because they believe in it. @arnyk Nice to see you and i hope you are fine. Very few posts of yours lately. Transporter (modded) -> RG142 -> Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks -> Sommer SPK240 -> self-made speakers Wombat's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4113 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
far as I'm concerned people that fall victim to that nonsense are audiophools, seemingly incapable of exercising critical thinking. SqueezeWand | 'Vivere DAC MKI' (http://vivereaudio.com/post/2013/08/16/DAC-I-is-Born!.aspx) | 'ATC SCA2' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/electronics/source-pre-amplifiers/sca2/) | 'ATC SCM100ASLT' (http://www.atcloudspeakers.co.uk/hi-fi/loudspeakers/tower-series/scm100aslt/) *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* - now packaged in most Linux distributions. audiomuze's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33613 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Gravitational Waves
ralphpnj wrote: > Now that gravitational waves have been detected how long before their > adverse effects on audio will be noted along a solution to repair those > adverse effects? Appropriately the 'Real HD Audio blog of Mark Waldrep' (http://www.realhd-audio.com/?p=5574) had this pearl yesterday: "DH Labs introduces Gravitationally Compensated Audio Cables If the moons gravitational pull has the power to move entire oceans, imagine what it does to the tiny electrons traveling through your audio cables. In light of this, DH Labs has created the worlds first gravitationally compensated audio cables. By using proprietary electro-gyroscopic technology, DH Labs has defeated the laws of physics, and the results are spectacular. This new technology necessitates maintaining a double inventory, as all cables shipped to the southern hemisphere must have their conductor strands wound in the opposite direction. Price: $7000 per meter. Wait, theres more: To make the best even better, our Earth MFC (Magnetic Field Cancellation) option can be added for only $30,000. As the name implies, Earth MFC cancels the negative effects of the earths magnetic field, using precision calibrated magnetometers coupled to proprietary monitoring circuitry. The monitoring circuitry is necessary to maintain calibration should the planets magnetic poles ever reverse. The net effect of these revolutionary new technologies is the purest sound ever heard. (and yes, it is a joke) "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105189 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
audiomuze wrote: > far as I'm concerned people that fall victim to that nonsense are > audiophools, seemingly incapable of exercising critical thinking. Not true. They are definitely very critical against any criticism. Confirmation and group bias are rather strong influences. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people" - Paul W Klipsch, 1953 Julf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=42050 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] AudioQuest's Casablanca moment
I think the audiophile culture actually traps some reasonable people now and then . Its not hard to see why 99% of the so called "information" the audiophile can enjoy in magazines and online is of very questinable quality . I never seen any other hobby where almost all "knowledge" is totally bogus and every magazine or forum or blog feeds you 99% nonsense and lies . If you then does not have any enginnering background or otherwise experienced in critical thinking ? I may not be easy to see trough this. Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered Fostex PM0.4 Misc use: Radio (with battery) iPad1 with iPengHD & SqueezePad (spares Touch, SB3, reciever ,controller ) server HP proliant micro server N36L with ClearOS Linux http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=105173 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/audiophiles