Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
To follow up, I sold my Ayre CD player for $1700 and picked up a Classe CDP .5 for $600 on Audiogon. I have always liked Classe gear but have never heard this model player. Hoping it will serve as a good backup both as transport and CD player if needed. It will play out of my Electrocompaniet DAC and BAT preamp--hoping for good sound. -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314462 Wrote: ... There are a lot of wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and selecting something to listen to from a large music library is _not_ one of them. For this reason alone, I'd be tempted to hang on to a really good CD player instead of selling it... It is really amazing how different approach we all can take on common issues. :) If I was to write the prior paragraph it would read something like this: ... There are a lot of wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and selecting something to listen to from a large music library _is the best_ one of them. For this reason alone, _I got into the SB world, packed up all of my CDs into a storage and never looked back_ ... :) K -- slimkid Where does the light go when you turn the switch off? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvMNuuFSvN0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRhRv4q_SI http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8 slimkid's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8881 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
slimkid;315157 Wrote: It is really amazing how different approach we all can take on common issues. :) If I was to write the prior paragraph it would read something like this: ... There are a lot of wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and selecting something to listen to from a large music library _is the best_ one of them. For this reason alone, _I got into the SB world, packed up all of my CDs into a storage and never looked back_ ... :) K what he said ... + random or thematic mixes are really, really hard! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
I got my SB and once I had all my cds online found I never used my cdp any more. I sold it and bought a DAC and have never looked back. (Had to buy the DAC as the SB on its own just didn't sounds as good as my cdp). One extra benefit of the DAC was that I can use it with TV and DVD's (DVD player becomes my backup cdp). For those who like to browse physical CD's, there's nothing stopping you from doing that, then having the SB play the one you pick. I know the feeling of not knowing what to put on, but for me, browsing through my music folder seems to do the trick... -- bludragon bludragon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1530 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
sc53;315147 Wrote: To follow up, I sold my Ayre CD player for $1700 and picked up a Classe CDP .5 for $600 on Audiogon. I have always liked Classe gear but have never heard this model player. Hoping it will serve as a good backup both as transport and CD player if needed. It will play out of my Electrocompaniet DAC and BAT preamp--hoping for good sound. Do you like the sound of the SB3 and Dac combo better than the Ayre CX7? The Ayre CX 7e is a very highly regarded CD player. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
I never had anything in the class of the Ayre CD, I did have a high end Pioneer player, and many others. As soon as I got my first SqueezeBox, I was converted. There is nothing about physical CDs that appeal to me. For the four or five years since I started drinking Sean's Koolaide, I touch a CD only to rip it to flac, or to load into my car's jukebox for road trips. I've never used the normal remotes, for years I used fishbone on a laptop as the sole control. Then I got a Controller. -- pfarrell Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html pfarrell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
Mr Bill--to answer your question, the SB3 and Electrocompaniet DAC are not _better_than my Ayre, but in my room, with my associated equipment, through my ears, and given MY listening/sound preferences, I could not tell the difference. I also owned a Linn Unidisk and also sold that as overkill since on CDs the SB3/Electro combo sounded the same to me. I'm sure if I were an audio reviewer I would have heard lots of differences, but since I'm just a regular 55-yr-old female layperson, I have to say the SB3/Electro combo matched any CD player I've had in my system (Marantz SA-1, Linn Unidisk 2.1, Ayre CX-7e, Arcam FMJ CD-33). As I said, I hope I don't regret my decision to part with the Ayre down the road. But I suppose I can always find another one via Audiogon, where the price has dropped quite a bit on these players from about 2-3 months ago (then they were selling for $1900-2000; now it's $1750 tops). If you are curious about a top notch CD player, try the Ayre. Incredible player and a bargain at $1700. If you are a gifted audiophile, I'm sure you will hear differences from SB/DAC or Transporter! I am ordinary, not gifted at all. -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
My CD player was on its last legs a couple of years back. Not buying a new one helped in my mental justification for buying a Transporter. In case of Transporter failure (I had a power supply chip go down) or when my wife wants to play a CD, we just stick it in the DVD player. Like some others here, and unlike some others here, I don't miss the CD boxes at all. Dan -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314462 Wrote: (An aside: During the week of going back to CDs I was reminded once again of how much nicer it is to browse through a wall full of actual CDs instead of using one of the Squeeze interfaces. There are a lot of wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and selecting something to listen to from a large music library is _not_ one of them. For this reason alone, I'd be tempted to hang on to a really good CD player instead of selling it. If you haven't played CDs recently, you should try shutting down the SqueezeCenter server and going back to CDs for a week or two. You might be surprised to find that your listening habits, even (dare I say it) your satisfaction level, may be different.) Nothing that a bar code scanner + database + a quick bit of code couldn't fix ;) -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
andynormancx;314517 Wrote: Nothing that a bar code scanner + database + a quick bit of code couldn't fix ;) Not hardly. You're talking the opposite. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314531 Wrote: Not hardly. You're talking the opposite. Huh ? What I suggested would allow you to browse your music collection the way you you like to, by looking through your CDs, but play it back quickly and easily via your SB. - browse CDs - choose CD - wave CD at barcode scanner - chosen album starts playing on SB The best of both worlds. Anyway, it was a flippant, humorous comment not really intended to be taken seriously*... * though no doubt some geek out there has already implemented it ;) -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17417 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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JJZolx;314462 Wrote: ...I was reminded once again of how much nicer it is to browse through a wall full of actual CDs instead of using one of the Squeeze interfaces... What a strange idea. For me, storage and browsing is the main problem with CDs, they take up wall space that we don't have and wouldn't want to cover in CDs anyway. Personally, I find them a pain to browse through - squinting at the tiny writing on the spine. Getting them in and out of the case is a fiddle and getting the booklet in and out threatens to destroy the booklet and/or case which would eventually disintegrate of its own accord anyway. I am still in the process of ripping my CD collection (only 50 to go...) and so am constantly reminded how much I -hate- CDs! The CD was such a backward step from vinyl LPs which are a joy to handle by comparison and actually take up less wall space than CDs if you have a large collection. I find it *much* easier than either CDs or LPs to browse through my server based music collection using the Duet controller. And we can save the wall space for art, photographs or books. I always browse using the music folder option and am very careful to save my CDs as \genre\band(or composer)\album\track.flac. That makes it a doddle to find whatever I want. If I want to randomly browse I just do that using the albums option on the controller which obviously mixes up classical, jazz, rock and pop in alphabetical order by album name - which is totally random! -- TheLastMan Matt SB Duet, Synology Diskstation 107+ with FW 2.0-0600 SqueezeCenter 7.0.1 and SSODS 3 beta 13. Naim 72/HiCap/140 amp, BW CM2 speakers. TheLastMan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16021 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
When my network is down I play vinyl... I'll get me coat! -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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TheLastMan;314539 Wrote: What a strange idea. For me, storage and browsing is the main problem with CDs, they take up wall space that we don't have and wouldn't want to cover in CDs anyway. Personally, I find them a pain to browse through - squinting at the tiny writing on the spine. I'm with JJZolx on this. Having a wall full of CD spines allows for a browsing mode that simply isn't available via the SB remote, Controller or web interface. It happens when you feel like listening to some music, but haven't a clue what. So you walk up to your wall of CD spines and let the eyes just flit around at random, until you happen to come across something you feel like hearing. No linear browsing method gives quite the same experience. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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cliveb;314562 Wrote: I'm with JJZolx on this. I'd be willing to take those annoying Squeezeboxes off your hands, clive and JJZ, so you can get back to where you once belonged. -- Pale Blue Ego Pale Blue Ego's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=110 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Pale Blue Ego;314586 Wrote: I'd be willing to take those annoying Squeezeboxes off your hands, clive and JJZ, so you can get back to where you once belonged. Acknowledging one small disadvantage in running a Squeezebox based system doesn't mean I don't appreciate the multitude of advantages it brings. As it happens, I sold my (very expensive) CD player back in 2005 after embracing the Slim Devices approach. Over the intervening years I've learned to live without being able to browse my music that way. But that doesn't alter the fact that it *is* a browsing mode that is sometimes useful and has been lost. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
The idea of browsing my CD shelves is exactly why I don't want to give up a CD player altogether! I love doing that. I still miss the old-time record store where you could go in and flip through LPs in various genres for hours on end, sneezing from the dust. Later I browsed for CDs in the same manner in record stores. It's getting harder and harder to find places to do this anymore, I order most of my CDs from Amazon and vinyl from Music Direct or Acoustic Sounds and the only browsing I do is online. Not the same. Like some of you, if my network goes down I have my 2000 LPs to listen to on my Linn LP12, and I still have FM tuners as well--plus my trusty old Nakamichi CR-7A tape deck and all those mix tapes I made in the 70s and 80s! I guess I just like to have a lot of options, but I don't want to see a $3000 CD player not getting that much use so I thought I'd downgrade and save some $$$. Still it'll be very hard to part with the Ayre, it is a wonderful player even at twice the price. -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
The point is : now that you have ripped all your Cd's and gone the SB/TP route are you actually going to load one up and spin it. I have ended up with a closet full of equipment I no longer use but have been loathe to selleventually it loses all value and I can't bear to dump it or sell it for peanutsmy meshugas I would sell the Ayre , get the best price you can cos if you have gone the SB/TP route , you are obviously convinced that this is the future of music and your Ayre will just devalue in time and you are really only keeping it as a what if thingy. You could always buy a cheap DVD player for the times you network goes down or indeed as a transport into a decent dac. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
I owe a Cambridge player (640C) and i find that : - its transport is pretty good, as good as my SB3. It replaces my SB whenever i service the network/computers and it drives well enough my dac. In my case, whatever differences may exist between the two of them, they mainly come from he digital cable, not the players. - i prefer my external dac, but the 640 is good enough for a few days (in case my dac fails). -- Themis SB3 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Themis;314643 Wrote: I owe a Cambridge player (640C) and i find that : - its transport is pretty good, as good as my SB3. It replaces my SB whenever i service the network/computers and it drives well enough my dac. In my case, whatever differences may exist between the two of them, they mainly come from he digital cable, not the players. - i prefer my external dac, but the 640 is good enough for a few days (in case my dac fails). I dumped my Meridian 598 player and never looked back. I do have a Sony Play Station 3 that can play CD's. Find something that can serve another purpose. A computer with SPDIF out also works. The only time I ever need one is if a guest comes over with CD's. -- mswlogo Thinkpad XP SS Cat5 Transporter SPDIF-COAX Meridian G68ADV (Trifield, Room corrected, Upsampled) DSP6000 Mains, DSP5500HC Center, DSP33 Rears mswlogo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9090 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
JJZolx;314462 Wrote: I'd definitely recommend having a CD player on hand for the times when your SqueezeCenter server, or your network isn't available for whatever reason. Or even just for when someone comes by with a CD that you want to play on your stereo without having to rip it first. I lost my server's boot disk early last week, so I was without my SqueezeCenter server until the weekend when I had the chance to rebuild it. During that time it was back to good old CDs and FM. If you're going to be playing it through an outboard DAC, and if it's only occasionally used, then I wouldn't worry too much about the merits of the CDP as a transport. (An aside: During the week of going back to CDs I was reminded once again of how much nicer it is to browse through a wall full of actual CDs instead of using one of the Squeeze interfaces. There are a lot of wonderful advantages to PC based music systems, but browsing and selecting something to listen to from a large music library is _not_ one of them. For this reason alone, I'd be tempted to hang on to a really good CD player instead of selling it. If you haven't played CDs recently, you should try shutting down the SqueezeCenter server and going back to CDs for a week or two. You might be surprised to find that your listening habits, even (dare I say it) your satisfaction level, may be different.) As a longer term squeezecenter user too, I'm with you. I really don't like scrolling through my collection - it just seems to wierd and I have never gotten used to it. -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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sc53;314362 Wrote: Is there any inexpensive player I could buy to use as a backup if my network is down, that won't be horribly inadequate given what I am used to listening to? For a low budget option, I'd suggest a used Marantz CD63 SE or CD67 SE. They've got digital outputs, and they sound halfway decent from their analog jacks if your DAC happens to be temporarily out of commission. They come up on eBay every now and then for under a hundred bucks. -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6201 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
Hi, after a year or so with my 3 SB3's running quite reliably at home on both PC and Mac, I have decided to part with my precious and wonderful Ayre CD player (the CX-7e). I use the SB3's with DACs and cannot identify the differences when the music is from the Ayre or from the SB3 into an Electrocompaniet ECD-1 or a Benchmark DAC-1. So I have decided to part with the Ayre--but I feel I need an emergency backup to use in case of network meltdown, modem failure or whatever. Is there any inexpensive player I could buy to use as a backup if my network is down, that won't be horribly inadequate given what I am used to listening to? I was thinking of the Oppo but have never heard it; similarly thought of the cambridge player but again never heard it. Any thoughts? -- sc53 sc53's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8690 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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sc53;314362 Wrote: Hi, after a year or so with my 3 SB3's running quite reliably at home on both PC and Mac, I have decided to part with my precious and wonderful Ayre CD player (the CX-7e). I use the SB3's with DACs and cannot identify the differences when the music is from the Ayre or from the SB3 into an Electrocompaniet ECD-1 or a Benchmark DAC-1. So I have decided to part with the Ayre--but I feel I need an emergency backup to use in case of network meltdown, modem failure or whatever. Is there any inexpensive player I could buy to use as a backup if my network is down, that won't be horribly inadequate given what I am used to listening to? I was thinking of the Oppo but have never heard it; similarly thought of the cambridge player but again never heard it. Any thoughts? If you are running it into your DAC(s), pretty much anything will do... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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If you're going into an outboard DAC, it doesn't really matter. -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2139 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Phil Leigh wrote: If you are running it into your DAC(s), pretty much anything will do... SuperQ wrote: If you're going into an outboard DAC, it doesn't really matter. What, you two guys don't believe that the CD transport is important? How can you claim to be audiophiles? Next you will claim that bits are bits and that there is no such thing as a digital cable. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
sc53;314362 Wrote: Hi, after a year or so with my 3 SB3's running quite reliably at home on both PC and Mac, I have decided to part with my precious and wonderful Ayre CD player (the CX-7e). I use the SB3's with DACs and cannot identify the differences when the music is from the Ayre or from the SB3 into an Electrocompaniet ECD-1 or a Benchmark DAC-1. So I have decided to part with the Ayre--but I feel I need an emergency backup to use in case of network meltdown, modem failure or whatever. Is there any inexpensive player I could buy to use as a backup if my network is down, that won't be horribly inadequate given what I am used to listening to? I was thinking of the Oppo but have never heard it; similarly thought of the cambridge player but again never heard it. Any thoughts? I would not recommend an Oppo. When playing the first track on a CD I've found my receiver (Denon 3806) takes around a second to sync up and you lose that music. This does not happen with my Panasonic Blu-Ray disc player or my Cyrus CD player used as a transport. On another forum (avsforum.com) this was acknowledged as a design feature of the Oppo (DV-981HD). I've always read great things about the Ayre CD player - its incredible that SB3 + DAC1 can sound as good. -- nicholasg nicholasg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
nicholasg;31 Wrote: I would not recommend an Oppo. When playing the first track on a CD I've found my receiver (Denon 3806) takes around a second to sync up and you lose that music. This does not happen with my Panasonic Blu-Ray disc player or my Cyrus CD player used as a transport. On another forum (avsforum.com) this was acknowledged as a design feature of the Oppo (DV-981HD). I've always read great things about the Ayre CD player - its incredible that SB3 + DAC1 can sound as good.I've got the older 971 and don't have any problems. Very good player for the money. You probably weren't using the new Denon cable. Might want to look into that. :) -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
I'd definitely recommend having a CD player on hand for the times when your SqueezeCenter server, or your network isn't available for whatever reason. Or even just for when someone comes by with a CD that you want to play on your stereo without having to rip it first. If you're going to be playing through an outboard DAC, and if it's only occasionally used, then I wouldn't worry too much about the merits of the CDP as a transport. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] About to sell my CD player--will SB3 be enough??
Nonreality;314461 Wrote: I've got the older 971 and don't have any problems. Very good player for the money. You probably weren't using the new Denon cable. Might want to look into that. :) That must be it :-) I did try optical and coax and had the same issue (as did someothers on AVSFORUM). You only notice the issue if the music on the first track on the CD starts at zero seconds. I also think they are not very well build and look cheap. -- nicholasg nicholasg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18127 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49169 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles