Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Songs you use for critical listening
Phil Leigh;294742 Wrote: True - however, the recently remastered version of Tres Hombres / ZZ Top is both classic rock and sounds great (to me). Also, most Eagles CD's sound rather good, and the recent John Fogerty album (Revival) is worth a listen. The recently remastered 1st three UFO albums sound great if you like heavier rock. Oh - and Masque by Kansas sounds superb to me! Remastered UFO Dang! I think we need a new base thread called Look what I found It's sad that I had to learn about the new Jack Bruce/Robin Trower from McPaper(but I'm glad I did) -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Somebody already mentioned the Jim Keltner drum piece from The Sheffield Drum Record - the other piece on this is just as good (from Ron Tutt IIRC). There's also The Sheffield Track Record which is composer and soundtrack man James Newton Howard and a band in some really well recorded rock instrumentals. Barnstorm, Mother Says - terrific drums and cymbals. Extremely well recorded, especially for 1972. Aimee Mann, The Forgotton Arm - produced by Joe Henry, this is a marvelously live-sounding recording with fabulous guitar and drums. A heartwrenching tale but you can't stop listening. Peter Gabriel, Passion - stuff he recorded for the soundtrack to The Last Temptation of Christ. -- kmr kmr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10664 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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ModelCitizen;295221 Wrote: Does anyone wonder why virtually no one really gives a s*** about obtaining music illegally now? It's just one in a long list of things that modern people pretend publically that they don't do. I'm used to paying for recorded music, so continue to do so, but I do like the convenience of buying just the tracks I want and not the filler crap on most CDs. That of course means the labels get less money from me. I think that eventually the music business model will change and downloaded music will become a free marketing tool and the big money will come from touring and merchandising. We're already starting to see that with Prince and others, and with the new deals that U2 and Madonna are cutting. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I think the music industry is reaping what it sowed for decades. They incorporated royalties into the price of their products but many people have paid the same royalties over and over when they bought the same music in new formats. This is robbery. Now the shoe is on the other foot so they bring out the lawyers. Those labels and artists showing foresight and working with the public (not against them) will reap the positive rewards in time. Darren -- darrenyeats SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1 Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system darrenyeats's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10799 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Opalesque - A Closer View, Ralph Towner Gary Peacock Sheraton Gibson - Pete Townshend My Funny Valentine - Chet Baker -- grrman Daily Gearhead grrman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16052 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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iPhone;294767 Wrote: Ascent by Erich Kunzel the Cincinnati Pops at higher volume levels will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about your amp and the available bass and overall speed of your speakers. The bass audio goes below 20 Hz, so if you stop hearing or feeling music during the song your speakers ran out of bottom. couldn't agree more. this 20 year old track (#1 on the album) recorded by telarc around the birth of the CD is very impressive. it's the only CD i've ever bought that has a volume warning on the cover. I once demoed a set of onwall speakers at high volume and this track literally caused the woofers to pop out. Didn't buy those speakers. i also use the very beginning of track #2 (star trek theme) to conduct quick bass tests in car audio if i feel too silly or embarassed playing heavy electro house or rap. -- JayNYC JayNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=121 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Discovered Again - Dave Grusin (Sheffield Lab CD-5) Gaucho or Aja - Steely Dan (DIDX-56, DIDX-57, IIRC) Are good ones... And there are a few recordings I made myself at various live music events, either as demos for the bands or direct off the board when I was mixing the PA sound. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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* Radiohead: In Rainbows (amazing texture and soundscape) * Donald Fagan: Morph the Cat (best bass ever?) * Jack Johnson: last three albums (all audiophikle grade) * Tim O'Brian: Cornbread Nation (Moses is an excellent test for imaging) -- gregeas gregeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Timothy Stockman;295083 Wrote: Discovered Again - Dave Grusin (Sheffield Lab CD-5) Gaucho or Aja - Steely Dan (DIDX-56, DIDX-57, IIRC) Are good ones... And there are a few recordings I made myself at various live music events, either as demos for the bands or direct off the board when I was mixing the PA sound. Hey Tim could you upload the direct board stuff to http://www.archive.org/details/etree in FLAC, that is if there would be no band agreement violations? There are upload instructions in PDF format on the left side of the web page. -- iPhone iPhone Last.FM http://www.lastfm.com/user/mePhone Media Room: Transporter, Vandersteen Quatro Signature, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center Channel, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco 710, RAM Oppo DV970HD, VeraStarr 6.4SE Living Room: SqueezeBox Duet, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold Bedroom: Squeezebox 3, Thiel 2.3, NAD C370 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Iphone, Your latest intervention got me thinking could we legally start a share site within all of us friends in this forum? Im an urbanist, so I have no clue how to do this, but i launch the question to all of you I would surely cooperate fully -- GuyDebord Verity Audio Tamino X2 wired with v/d Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon Lyra Helikon SL, Nagra VPS phono preamp, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRs. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Nagra), v/d Hul Mainstream (Pathos) v/d Hul Mainserver (Transporter). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Little Red Rooster - The Persuasions, makes the hairs stand up on your neck on the right system Little Wing - Stevie Ray Vaughan, love that amplifier buzz! Brushed with Oil, Dusted with Powder - Scritti Politti. Great studio recording, as are all his albums OK - Talvin Singh, great recording of modern Asian music -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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GuyDebord wrote: Iphone, Your latest intervention got me thinking could we legally start a share site within all of us friends in this forum? I'm not iPhone, and IANAL, but I don't think you can do that legally in the US. The RIAA tends to claim such things are illegal collections and of course, given the DMCA that the RIAA wrote for our clueless congresscritters, we can't even talk about it. But there are many hosting companies that rent space cheaply. -- Pat Farrell http://www.pfarrell.com/ ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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GuyDebord;295138 Wrote: Iphone, Your latest intervention got me thinking could we legally start a share site within all of us friends in this forum? Im an urbanist, so I have no clue how to do this, but i launch the question to all of you I would surely cooperate fully Pfarrell is right, no can do. Copyrighted file sharing is not legal in the States and probably not anywhere else either. Live performances fall into a semi-gray area when the performance is recorded by an individual with premission of the artist for personal or not for profit use. If you are plugged into the mixing board, you have premission, but one could still not have the right to post it to the Archive depending on what one signed to be able to plug into the board. The Archive is a place to post legal live recording for the sole purpose of not for profit sharing. These recording fall into three types. Board direct, band allowed mike setup area, and the poorest quality is the fan with two mikes held above his head. Digitalsoundboard.net http://app1.dsbd.net/dsb/index.jsp is the legal for profit place to pick up high quality live performances right off the soundboard. What I thought of a long time ago was to setup a music storage service like Music Locker but allow anybody paying to store music access to all stored files (listen/read only not able to download). The RIAA said no even though the non-owner of a song could only listen to it and not download it to keep, share, or burn. I have had three personal experencies with the RIAA. Have never been sued by them, but have been told that if I or my band members/friends continued doing what we were doing that they would. It is not a fair thing that one can not even play live ones own published music in the bar that one owns. -- iPhone iPhone Last.FM http://www.lastfm.com/user/mePhone Media Room: Transporter, Vandersteen Quatro Signature, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center Channel, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco 710, RAM Oppo DV970HD, VeraStarr 6.4SE Living Room: SqueezeBox Duet, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold Bedroom: Squeezebox 3, Thiel 2.3, NAD C370 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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iPhone;295199 Wrote: Pfarrell is right, no can do. Copyrighted file sharing is not legal in the States and probably not anywhere else either. Live performances fall into a semi-gray area when the performance is recorded by an individual with premission of the artist for personal or not for profit use. If you are plugged into the mixing board, you have premission, but one could still not have the right to post it to the Archive depending on what one signed to be able to plug into the board. The Archive is a place to post legal live recording for the sole purpose of not for profit sharing. These recording fall into three types. Board direct, band allowed mike setup area, and the poorest quality is the fan with two mikes held above his head. Digitalsoundboard.net http://app1.dsbd.net/dsb/index.jsp is the legal for profit place to pick up high quality live performances right off the soundboard. What I thought of a long time ago was to setup a music storage service like Music Locker but allow anybody paying to store music access to all stored files (listen/read only not able to download). The RIAA said no even though the non-owner of a song could only listen to it and not download it to keep, share, or burn. I have had three personal experencies with the RIAA. Have never been sued by them, but have been told that if I or my band members/friends continued doing what we were doing that they would. It is not a fair thing that one can not even play live ones own published music in the bar that one owns. Ive heard and read stories about the RIAA, sure plays along the contemporary meaning to freedom in America today. Sorry to hear that. -- GuyDebord Verity Audio Tamino X2 wired with v/d Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon Lyra Helikon SL, Nagra VPS phono preamp, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRs. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Nagra), v/d Hul Mainstream (Pathos) v/d Hul Mainserver (Transporter). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Does anyone wonder why virtually no one really gives a s*** about obtaining music illegally now? It's just one in a long list of things that modern people pretend publically that they don't do. MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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iPhone;295129 Wrote: Hey Tim could you upload the direct board stuff to http://www.archive.org/details/etree in FLAC, that is if there would be no band agreement violations? There are upload instructions in PDF format on the left side of the web page. Some of the stuff I recorded goes back as far as the mid-1980s. I used a Sony PCM-701ES digital adapter, later a pair of ADAT recorders. What's cool, though, is that all of my recordings, even back in the mid-1980s, are done with a digital recorder of some sort. I still have a PCM-501ES to play back the F1 tapes, but I'd have to borrow an ADAT to play those; I sold my ADATs. Sorry, but to be fair to those involved, I should probably not post this stuff to the Internet. Some of the recordings are demo tapes, which I recorded at the request of the band for their use, while with others, they were recorded from the PA sound board as I was running it for my own use as a tool to evaluate the mix. -- Timothy Stockman Timothy Stockman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8867 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Go West - Goodbye Girl Miles Davis - Blue in Green Porcupine Tree - Waiting ..to name a few -- xand1x Linksys WRT54G -- Slim Devices Transporter (Black) -- First Watt F1 -- AKG K1000 xand1x's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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ModelCitizen;294513 Wrote: Crikey, someone else who has heard of SuperSilent! MC I pity the ones that haven't! regards, GD -- GuyDebord Verity Audio Tamino X2 wired with v/d Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon Lyra Helikon SL, Nagra VPS phono preamp, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRs. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Nagra), v/d Hul Mainstream (Pathos) v/d Hul Mainserver (Transporter). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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GuyDebord wrote: ModelCitizen;294513 Wrote: Crikey, someone else who has heard of SuperSilent! MC I pity the ones that haven't! Norwegian free electro/jazz improv ? Er, no thanks. Each to his own, I guess. :) R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I'm a big fan of well recorded classic rock, but unfortunately not a lot of it exists. Even the MFSL version of Allman Brothers at Fillmore East is pretty terrible. So anyway, when I'm listening for differences I usually pick a couple of the not-so-well recorded albums, to see which option makes these things I love to hate more tolerable. OTOH, I doubt there a system in existence where Muddy Waters Folk Singer or Neil Young Unplugged doesn't sound great. Those, I believe, belong on the list of 'tracks to show off my system'. I would, however, highly recommend the great sounding BB King Live At The Appolo [GRP]. Beyond the great voice and guitar there is also a big band backing him up, which adds a lot of depth and usefulness as a listening tool. It must have been a two mic recording, if that's the right term, because every instrument really nestles into its own defined space in the soundstage, front to back as well as side to side. This, I believe, makes it a good test of speaker placement, and keeps sounding better until you have it just right. I still haven't decided if they are here or I am there though. -- Skunk http://www.last.fm/user/TheSkunk/ Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Patricia Barber, The Moon - very well recorded female voice and acoustic jazz set Diana Krall, All or Nothing at All - great walking acoustic bass line, the best track I know for bass integration and/or room mid-bass modes Maria Dolores Pradera, Toda Una Vida - acoustic guitar, female voice Yuri Honing Trio, Walking on the Moon - jaw droppingly beautiful jazz trio track Moussorgsky, Pictures at an Exhibition, Gergiev/Vienna Phil - huge dynamic range, big and unusual orchestral passages Carmina Burana, Orff, Shaw/Atlanta Symphony - dynamic range, KETTLE DRUMS! Willie Nelson, She's Not for You - great recording Everclear, Heroin Girl - horribly recorded grunge (if it sounds good, you're using PA speakers) Radiohead, nearly anything - it has to sound good Gene Harris, Captain Bill - well-recorded big band Massive Attack, anything from Mezzanine - lots of crazy bass -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4234 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Kevin Gilbert - THUD Bonnie Raitt - NICK OF TIME (5.1 remix) The Eagles - HOTEL CALIFORNIA (5.1 remix) Frankie Goes To Hollywood - WELCOME TO THE PLEASURE DOME (title track) Gino Vennelli - SLOW LOVE ...and multiple projects I've recorded/mixed myself, 'cause I know what they're supposed to sound like. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego - [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Mac MINI server w/ 500GB external - Multiple SB3s and Transporter Tannoy and Genelec Bi Tri-Amped Studio Monitors - 5.1 Surround Recording Engineer/Producer since 1971 - Member AES, SPARS, SMPTE and NARAS Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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I always start out with Sandy Sasso's Tuxedo Junction off of her Mixed Grill album. Great varied recording with bass, vibes, voice. Everyone I play it for agrees. Great album too. Hod O'Briens Second Set album. For piano I like Lynne Ariale's Live album. For a higher pitched female voice Renee Olstead is good. The very beginning of the Rancounteurs album has the biggest, baddest, distorted sound that is actually very well recorded. Patricia Barber Use Me off of Companion. Funny thing is that almost all my favorites are live recordings. Joshua Redman has some good recording of sax. I wish I could remember which album. I never really appreciated it till I heard him live recently and realized just how rich a sax should sound. -- regalma1 regalma1's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6658 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Eric Seaberg wrote: ...and multiple projects I've recorded/mixed myself, 'cause I know what they're supposed to sound like. Yes, they're the best I had a *great* recoding of Elgar's Cello Concerto, played by Natalie Klein, that I recorded when she played with an amateur orchestra in a very reverberant old school hall (wood panels everywhere!). I just used a single Blumlein (?) pair of quality condenser mics straight to DAT. The cello sound was absolutely magnificent. Wish I still had it. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Eric Seaberg;294705 Wrote: ...and multiple projects I've recorded/mixed myself, 'cause I know what they're supposed to sound like. Yes they are very useful...I'm taking one of my own recordings to the Linn DS demo on Saturday :o) - that should raise a few eyebrows. (and no, before anyone asks, they sadly aren't available in any shops!) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Hmmm, a couple of my favourites have already been listed: Massive Attack - Mezzanine Tori Amos - Silent All These Years Madonna (???!!!^%$!) - Drowned World/Substitute For Love (Ray of Light Album), my whole house shakes with this is even at moderate volume! Nick Cave - Red Right Hand Ryan Adams - The Rescue Blues, La Cienega Just Smiled -- killie99 Musical Fidelity KW250S, Impulse H2 speakers oh, and an SB3 killie99's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8337 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Skunk;294660 Wrote: I'm a big fan of well recorded classic rock, but unfortunately not a lot of it exists. True - however, the recently remastered version of Tres Hombres / ZZ Top is both classic rock and sounds great (to me). Also, most Eagles CD's sound rather good, and the recent John Fogerty album (Revival) is worth a listen. The recently remastered 1st three UFO albums sound great if you like heavier rock. Oh - and Masque by Kansas sounds superb to me! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Robin Bowes;294082 Wrote: Interesting. I decided to use this as a springboard to start a new thread about good reference tracks that we use to audition systems. However, it just turned into a list of music that does it for me! Anyway, I did it, so I'm going to hit send! R. The Blower's Daughter by Damien Rice from O - very up-front vocal. Good test of how natural the system sounds - also has good bass extension when the band comes in at 1:41 Highway To Hell by AC/DC from Highway to Hell - Can sound harsh. Needs lots of PRAT Be My Number Two by Joe Jackson from Body Soul - very nicely recorded, piano + vocal + full band. Great song! Birdland by Weather Report from Heavy Weather - quite busy jazz - potentially harsh high-hats - also lots of bottom end that can get muddy True Love Ways by Buddy Holly from The Original Master Tapes - that voice, up front; lots of lovely strings - this is perfect. Prelude Fuge No.2 in C from Das Wohltemperierte Klavier, Part I by J.S. Bach, played by Sviatoslav Richter - amazing performance, but very wet - good test of ability to resolve detail L. van Beethoven - Allegro con Brio from Symphony No.5 - VPO/Kleiber - a classic performance, but can get a little mushy - good test of ability to resolve detail and convey dynamics Verdi - Dies Irae from Requiem Mass - Gardiner - wow! Tchaikovsky - The Nutcracker - Kirov Orchestra, Gergiev - incredibly well-recorded orchestral music Nice selections, some really audio challenging tunes for any system. These are the songs I take to the HiFi Store when I want to audition equipment. I start with some popular artists then move into the obscure system challenging pieces. Dire Straits - Brothers in Arm From Brothers in Arms Billy Joel - Baby Grand From The Bridge Harry Connick Jr She From She Mick Jagger - Use Me - From Wandering Spirit Flim the BBs Tricycle From Tricycle Flim the BBs - At the Hop From Big Notes Flim the BBs Funhouse- From Big Notes Amanda McBroom Amanda From Growing up in a Hollywood Town Domnerus Group - Limehouse Blues - Jazz at the Pawnshop Erich Kunzel the Cincinnati Pops Ascent From Time Warp (Telarc) Acoustic Alchemy - Mr. Chow From Red Dust Spanish Lace Checkfield Clockwork From Distance Thunder Sheffield Labs - Jim Keltner From Sheffield Drum Track CD Ascent by Erich Kunzel the Cincinnati Pops at higher volume levels will tell you everything you ever wanted to know about your amp and the available bass and overall speed of your speakers. The bass audio goes below 20 Hz, so if you stop hearing or feeling music during the song your speakers ran out of bottom. As for the other tunes, they all provide information. I will not color your views with what I hear or think you should hear. I enjoy all music but Rap/HipHop and really enjoy dynamic songs. -- iPhone iPhone Last.FM http://www.lastfm.com/user/mePhone Media Room: Transporter, Vandersteen Quatro Signature, Ayre MX-R Mono Blocks, VTL TL-6.5 Signature Pre-Amp, VCC-5 Reference Center Channel, four VSM-1 Signatures, Runco 710, RAM Oppo DV970HD, VeraStarr 6.4SE Living Room: SqueezeBox Duet, Vandersteen Model 3A Signature, Two 2Wq subs, VCC-2, Two VSM-1, ADCOM GTP-870HD, Cinepro 3K6SE III Gold Bedroom: Squeezebox 3, Thiel 2.3, NAD C370 iPhone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13622 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Thomas Dolby at SXSW. The Flim and the BB's also work well.. -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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xand1x;294581 Wrote: Go West - Goodbye Girl Miles Davis - Blue in Green Porcupine Tree - Waiting ..to name a few Which waiting? -- pski pski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15574 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Ah... I forgot about Flim and the boys!! GREAT STUFF!! -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego - [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Mac MINI server w/ 500GB external - Multiple SB3s and Transporter Tannoy and Genelec Bi Tri-Amped Studio Monitors - 5.1 Surround Recording Engineer/Producer since 1971 - Member AES, SPARS, SMPTE and NARAS Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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my stock test track is trk 2 on the run dsotm pink floyd ... listen for the airport tannoy and see if you can hear what being said...then you can listen for turbo prop airliner taxing from low on the right through the central position past the left speaker then turning and racing across the image from left to right rising as it takes off then you've the running feet you can tell the floor type from the sound !...if you let the track run into the next see if the alarm clocks and chimes make you jump ...if they don't you can improve your system ! -- zanash Acoustician and builder of interesting cables zanash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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zanash;294178 Wrote: my stock test track is trk 2 on the run dsotm pink floyd ... listen for the airport tannoy and see if you can hear what being said...then you can listen for turbo prop airliner taxing from low on the right through the central position past the left speaker then turning and racing across the image from left to right rising as it takes off then you've the running feet you can tell the floor type from the sound !...if you let the track run into the next see if the alarm clocks and chimes make you jump ...if they don't you can improve your system ! Yes that's a good one...also Welcome To The Machine from WYWH... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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This are the 8 I use the most for that purpose, but of course they are on my top favorite records list. Supersilent 6 , Rune Grammofon Arve Henriksen Chiaroscuro , Rune Grammofon Steve Reichs music for 18 musicians, ECM Terry Rileys Rainbow in Curved Air , Columbia Arvo Pärt Tabula Rasa - Fratres ECM John Coltranes Ascension Impulse! Robert Wyatts Rock Bottom , Thirsty Ear Alva Noto + Ryuchi Sakamotos Insen , Raster Noton -- GuyDebord Verity Audio Tamino X2 wired with v/d Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon Lyra Helikon SL, Nagra VPS phono preamp, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRs. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Nagra), v/d Hul Mainstream (Pathos) v/d Hul Mainserver (Transporter). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Some albums I use regularly: Arvo Part - Kanon Pakojanen, ECM New Series (Upper mids, 3d imaging, Headroom) Craig Armstrong - As If To Nothing (Bass, Out of the box vocals) Vivaldi - Conceti con molto Intsrumenti, English Concert, Pinnock (Tonal colours, Imaging, Rythm) Sinead O'Connor - She Who Dwells (Live album, presece, dynamics) Tori Amos - Little Earthquakes (difficult one to crack - that damn Bosendorfer :) Moloko - Statues (Drive, Synergy, Timing. Everything. Just tells you how epic your system is) -- browellm browellm's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14260 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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GuyDebord;294435 Wrote: Supersilent #8220; 6 #8220; , Rune Grammofon Crikey, someone else who has heard of SuperSilent! From the same stable: Biosphere - Chukhung. Detail, punch, depth, beauty Information - plot ratio (replug). Speed Fennesz and Hazard - to see if the hifi is an alpha male Pink Floyd - Dark side of the Moon (Toshiba Black Triangle) - same as above Arvo Part - Passio. Beauty, voice, intensity Bob Dylan - Bob Dylan (remaster). Analogue clarity, natural separation. St Etienne - Amateur. Full on bass kick thump. Balance. Younger Brother - The Finger. Even frequency response (very interesting on the Transporter) and fast transients (the thwack factor) MC -- ModelCitizen Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. It's the music, stupid. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=46640 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Songs you use for critical listening
Phil Leigh wrote: For example, I often use: School from Crime of the Century by Supertramp. - The cymbals when they arrive are a big help to me. One Night In Paris by 10CC - a wealth of detail to be retrieved Sledgehammer (Peter Gabriel, So remastered) - can be like nails on glass on some systems, especially when LOUD) Mezzanine (any track) by Massive Attack -...good for bass control/response -...this disc can set rooms into a resonant frenzy! In Between Dreams by Jack Johnson - astonishingly natural sounding vocals and guitar - if it doesn't sound like he is in the room then something is wrong. Bells of Berlin by Lone Star from Firing on All Six - this is a really dynamic rock track that will sound dreadful if the system lacks dynamic capabilities. It also has challenging synth tones and a really good drum track. Interesting. I decided to use this as a springboard to start a new thread about good reference tracks that we use to audition systems. However, it just turned into a list of music that does it for me! Anyway, I did it, so I'm going to hit send! R. The Blower's Daughter by Damien Rice from O - very up-front vocal. Good test of how natural the system sounds - also has good bass extension when the band comes in at 1:41 Highway To Hell by AC/DC from Highway to Hell - Can sound harsh. Needs lots of PRAT Be My Number Two by Joe Jackson from Body Soul - very nicely recorded, piano + vocal + full band. Great song! Birdland by Weather Report from Heavy Weather - quite busy jazz - potentially harsh high-hats - also lots of bottom end that can get muddy True Love Ways by Buddy Holly from The Original Master Tapes - that voice, up front; lots of lovely strings - this is perfect. Prelude Fuge No.2 in C from Das Wohltemperierte Klavier, Part I by J.S. Bach, played by Sviatoslav Richter - amazing performance, but very wet - good test of ability to resolve detail L. van Beethoven - Allegro con Brio from Symphony No.5 - VPO/Kleiber - a classic performance, but can get a little mushy - good test of ability to resolve detail and convey dynamics Verdi - Dies Irae from Requiem Mass - Gardiner - wow! Tchaikovsky - The Nutcracker - Kirov Orchestra, Gergiev - incredibly well-recorded orchestral music ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
