Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder - results
Congratulations Ike! I am excited to see more TUs working on the world best Linux Distro! - Thomas S Hatch On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:23 PM, Stéphane Gaudreault steph...@archlinux.org wrote: Hi TUs, The voting period for Ike Devolder has ended. Please welcome Ike as a TU :) The results are: Yes : 18 No : 1 Abstain : 2 Total : 21 (Quorum has been met) Ike, please follow these steps [1]. Cheers, Stéphane [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/**index.php/New_Trusted_User_** Checklist#TODO_list_for_new_**Trusted_Usershttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/New_Trusted_User_Checklist#TODO_list_for_new_Trusted_Users
Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló
On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Balló György ballog...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everybody, I'm applying to be a Trusted User. I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for one year. In my free time I like surfing on the net, contributing to OpenStreetMap, bicycling, hiking, take photos about trams, and of course, packaging. I really like Arch Linux's transparency, the pacman and the build system, the website and the great wiki. I'm maintaining packages[1] a long time ago, and I already contributed to wiki by creating a page about libcanberra[2], and updated, extended some other articles. I reported many issues[3] with GNOME packages (including upstream and packaging bugs) to make Arch Linux better. I usually try to find the solution and send patch to upstream if needed before open bug reports. I helped to Ioni e.g. on updating some C# packages, and I also cooperated with AndyRTR on splitting out extensions from libreoffice package. I currently have 150 packages in AUR with a total of 5775 votes. I already maintain more than 200 packages as source packages on github[4] and as built i686 packages in my [ayatana] repo[5]. I don't want to move all of these packages to [community], only the popular ones. I always try to make the best packages and I hate poorly written PKGBUILDs. Some packages that I would like to add to [community]: - deja-dup (115 votes) - gwibber (299 votes) - pinta (186 votes) Some orphan packages in [community] that I could adopt: - agave - buoh My goal with becoming a TU is to provide more popular GTK+ applications in [community] and keep GNOME stable and consistent by fixing packages on large updates if needed. I hope that I could support Arch Linux as a TU in the next months and years. Alexander Rødseth is my sponsor. Best regards, György Balló My PGP key: https://raw.github.com/City-busz/Arch-Linux-Repository/master/ballog...@gmail.com-public.asc [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=City-busz [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libcanberra [3] https://bugs.archlinux.org/index.php?project=1status[]=opened=City-buszdo=index [4] https://github.com/City-busz/Arch-Linux-Repository [5] http://ayatana.info/ I am excited to see you applying to be a TU, I think you would make a killer addition to the team. It is somewhat rare that we see someone with as many packages and as much experience as you apply! I hope the voting goes well for you! - Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] TU Resignation
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Ray Rashif sc...@archlinux.org wrote: On 21 November 2011 00:10, Jelle van der Waa je...@vdwaa.nl wrote: On 19/11/11 19:44, Thomas S Hatch wrote: I have a lot of regret doing this, and I have been working hard to find the time to keep up with my TU duties, but every day I have less and less time because work is continually ramping up, and what free time I have left ends up going to Salt (http://saltstack.org). So, very sadly, I need to resign from my position as an Arch Linux TU. I hope I can be of assistance to Arch in the future and I am still planning on maintaining the Varch project: https://github.com/thatch45/varch So with deep regret, I must resign my brief stint as a TU, it was fun, and I greatly appreciate the opportunity, but it is very unfair of me to not be maintaining my packages. Thanks -Thomas S Hatch Sad to see you leave, good luck with Salt! -- Jelle van der Waa One awesome person less :( Good luck with everything else! -- GPG/PGP ID: C0711BF1 Thanks everyone, maybe sometime in the future things will clear up enough for me to come back, but not at the rate things are going now. Life has changed so much since I joined Arch! Keep making the worlds best Linux Distro better! -Thomas S Hatch
[aur-general] TU Resignation
I have a lot of regret doing this, and I have been working hard to find the time to keep up with my TU duties, but every day I have less and less time because work is continually ramping up, and what free time I have left ends up going to Salt (http://saltstack.org). So, very sadly, I need to resign from my position as an Arch Linux TU. I hope I can be of assistance to Arch in the future and I am still planning on maintaining the Varch project: https://github.com/thatch45/varch So with deep regret, I must resign my brief stint as a TU, it was fun, and I greatly appreciate the opportunity, but it is very unfair of me to not be maintaining my packages. Thanks -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Massimiliano Torromeo
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:10 AM, keenerd keen...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/3/11, Massimiliano Torromeo massimiliano.torro...@gmail.com wrote: From this packages I selected an initial list of what I plan to move to community: - percona-server - mariadb (refactored to replace mysql, unlike the one in AUR. See [4]) One question: are you comfortable being the lightning rod for a MySQL migration? Okay, two questions. What is your favorite color? -Kyle http://kmkeen.com Are we getting rid of MySQL? Or just making Maria a replaces package?
Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Massimiliano Torromeo
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Massimiliano Torromeo massimiliano.torro...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: Are we getting rid of MySQL? Or just making Maria a replaces package? Getting rid of MySQL would be crazy! Of course, I'm going to use the replaces/provides flags, for both mariadb and percona. Ok, just making sure, thanks!
Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Massimiliano Torromeo
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Massimiliano Torromeo massimiliano.torro...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: Are we getting rid of MySQL? Or just making Maria a replaces package? Getting rid of MySQL would be crazy! Of course, I'm going to use the replaces/provides flags, for both mariadb and percona. Ok, just making sure, thanks! I hope I did not derail this too much, your packages look good, and your github account is very impressive! It looks like you have the motivation and the competency to help maintain and uphold the Arch way .
Re: [aur-general] TU Application
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase s...@lutzhaase.comwrote: On 09/03/2011 06:13 PM, Alexander Rødseth wrote: Hello, My name is Alexander Rødseth. I'm from Oslo, Norway, am 29 years old for two more months and have been using Arch for a couple of years. My first taste of Linux was a brief acquaintance with Red Hat over a decade ago, followed by Slackware and then Debian for a few years. Now I use Arch Linux both at home and at work, and it's my absolute favorite so far. My 62 AUR packages [1] have a total of 2519 votes, where 32% of the votes are for packages I submitted, while the rest are for previously orphaned packages, that needed a warm and caring home. I like how Arch tries to avoid fixing things behind your back, which I think is evident from the installation process, the package manager and the love for simplicity I've found in Arch users and developers alike. I enjoy programming in Go, Haskell, Python and C, try to contribute to open source projects with bug reports and the occasional patch (here is one for Blender [2] and one for Firefox [3]). When I was younger, I wrote a program for drawing icons and animating sprites. [4] I have a wacky homepage where I experiment with HTML5 and upload small CLI programs as I see fit. [5] I'm currently employed in Hue AS [6], a company that (roughly explained) sells a software engine for converting sound to 3D-graphics. I mainly work with developing and maintaining the internal systems for keeping track of licenses, builds and issues with the code (mostly written in Python). Luckily, I only program a minimum of C++. ;) I started working with programming before studying computer science, and I am on a lifelong track of continuing to learn stuff on my own. At least one of my AUR packages has been moved to [community] (lib32-libasyncns, moved by Jan Steffens in 2010, only have the e-mail as reference) and I've contributed to at least one package in [extra] [7]. I hang out and answer questions on #archlinux as often as I can. My goal with becoming a TU is first and foremost to help out with maintaining packages for the distro that I love and use. If I can find a bug to fix or a feature to add to pacman, or any other arch-centric application, I would like to do so. (Could an option for pacman to list all system-files that are not owned by a package be something?) I am grumpy before the first cup of coffee in the morning, other than that I'm generally happy, helpful and benevolent. I try to get a minimum of exercise and I'm in a stable relationship. I like the game of Go and creating music with jack, MIDI-synths and Arch, of course. Evangelos Foutras was kind enough to sponsor me for applying to become a TU. -- Humble regards, Alexander Rødseth (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR) [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/**packages.php?SeB=mK=** trontonicPP=128SO=dO=0SB=vhttps://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?SeB=mK=trontonicPP=128SO=dO=0SB=v [2] http://www.3dmodellering.no/**beckmann/http://www.3dmodellering.no/beckmann/ [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/**show_bug.cgi?id=78414https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78414 (ctrl-f, patch) [4] http://burn.sf.net [5] http://roboticoverlords.org [6] http://hue.no [7] http://projects.archlinux.org/**svntogit/packages.git/tree/** crypto%2B%2B/trunk/http://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/packages.git/tree/crypto%2B%2B/trunk/ Good sir, thou seem to have quite an abundance of [community] candidates in thine firm and warm grip. It fills me with beautiful pleasure to know that such a fine and benevolent gentleman as thyself would find the time and desire to write to this most welcoming of mailing lists to offer thine own will and workforce to this organization of enlightened souls. It would appear that thou should be capable and able to help us out. I have to inquire, though, whether there is anything thou would want to specialize in? As thou seem to indulge in music creation and Go, perhaps those could be thine utmost priority. +1 Your Ceph package competes with my moosefs package :) I have been wondering when trontonic would show up here! I will look over your packages, but so far I think your application looks great!
Re: [aur-general] Delete firefox-firebug
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Kevin Vesga 31337h4c...@gmail.com wrote: Please remove firefox-firebug[1] as it a duplicate of firefox-extension-firebug-stable[2] and its out-dated. [1] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=50889 [2] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44809 Deleted!
[aur-general] Is the AUR down?
Or am I just crazy?
Re: [aur-general] Is the AUR down?
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Emmanuel Gras gras.emman...@gmail.comwrote: Or am I just crazy? $ ncat -vv aur.archlinux.org 80 Ncat: Version 5.51 ( http://nmap.org/ncat ) Ncat: Connection refused. I think you're not ;-) sweet, I am not crazy THE AUR IS DOWN!!! - panic in the streets!
Re: [aur-general] Is the AUR down?
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Reisner d...@falconindy.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 09:49:00AM -0600, Thomas S Hatch wrote: Or am I just crazy? Down for maintenance, yes. Will be back shortly. dave Thanks Dave, but I usually would quote Treebeard from Lord of the Rings on this one... That wizard should know better! let us know next time :)
[aur-general] [arch-general] Salt update to 0.8.8
I have not mentioned this here for a while, but I am a big fan of seeing what the Arch community is developing, and in the past I have gotten some real interest from the Arch community on this front. I just released Salt 0.8.8, salt is an application used for very fast remote management of systems via zeromq. Salt allows you to manage large groups of servers from a master server with simple commands, and salt also contains functionality for configuration management. Salt is meant to fill the roles of applications like puppet, mcollective, func, cgengine, fabric, Capistrano and many others. The release announcement is here: http://red45.wordpress.com/2011/05/30/salt-0-8-8/ Arch package is here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47512 Video explaining how to use Salt and what it is in detail is here: http://blip.tv/thomas-s-hatch/salt-0-8-7-presentation-5180182 And the (under heavy development) website and docs are here: http://thatch45.github.com/salt-www/ Salt is developed on Arch, but is made to run on any Linux/BSD Let me know what you all think! -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Leave of absence
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 6:57 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Thomas S Hatch wrote: I am back, I have a few packages to update too! My voice works much better now. I ended up not getting a vocal implant and had a nerve graft instead, I will post to my blog about it sometime. And the ice cream was good! -Thomas S Hatch Welcome back! I'm glad to hear that it went well (pun unintentional). Post a follow-up link if you do blog about this, as I'm a bit curious about how the procedure went from implant to graft between Sunday night and Monday morning. I'd also like to know more about the rate of regeneration at the graft site. Regards, Xyne I will have to do that, the graft will take 4-8 months to take hold, until then the did some temporary modifications to my voice box, I will post a blog.
Re: [aur-general] Leave of absence
On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Rafael Beraldo rbera...@cabaladada.orgwrote: times 28.4.11 miniplenty malquoted icecream rectify (I couldn't resist. Good luck, dude!) On 24 April 2011 11:35, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Thomas S Hatch wrote: Thanks guys! And no Xyne, I will have to buy my own ice cream :) Well then, on your list of things I need, right after the silicone implant, write down an HMO with an ice cream plan. Surely lying there going while eating delicious ice cream is a great way to evaluate the success of the procedure. ;) In other news, this weeks ice cream rations will be 30 g per party member. High-ranking party members will even receive frozen ice cream. Rest well and return strong to the glorious revolution, Comrade Hatch! -- Rafael Beraldo http://devio.us/~rberaldo/ I am back, I have a few packages to update too! My voice works much better now. I ended up not getting a vocal implant and had a nerve graft instead, I will post to my blog about it sometime. And the ice cream was good! -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Leave of absence
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Ray Rashif sc...@archlinux.org wrote: On 23 April 2011 13:48, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: I will be unavailable for a few days next week. Last year I had a surgery which left my left vocal chord paralyzed. Unfortunately my vocal chord has not healed and I am going to have to get a silicone implant in my voice box so that I can talk again. My surgery is on Monday the 25th and I will be resting up for a few days afterward before resuming regular TU work. As for my fellow TUs, if my packages are out of date please feel free to update them, but I will be back soon! If you are interested here is a link describing the procedure: http://www.evmsent.org/uvfi_treat.asp Get well soon! Awesome people should not be away for too long. -- GPG/PGP ID: 8AADBB10 Thanks guys! And no Xyne, I will have to buy my own ice cream :) -Thomas S Hatch
[aur-general] Leave of absence
I will be unavailable for a few days next week. Last year I had a surgery which left my left vocal chord paralyzed. Unfortunately my vocal chord has not healed and I am going to have to get a silicone implant in my voice box so that I can talk again. My surgery is on Monday the 25th and I will be resting up for a few days afterward before resuming regular TU work. As for my fellow TUs, if my packages are out of date please feel free to update them, but I will be back soon! If you are interested here is a link describing the procedure: http://www.evmsent.org/uvfi_treat.asp -Thomas S Hatch -Arch Linux Trusted User
Re: [aur-general] Delete request
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Nathan Owens ndowens@gmail.com wrote: Can somebody delete ldaptor http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119it has been renamed to python-ldaptor Thanks Deleted!
[aur-general] Salt 0.7.0
I have received a great deal of feedback from Arch users about salt, so I will announce releases here a few more times. Salt is a parallel remote execution system, the release announcement is in the salt mailing list and my blog: http://groups.google.com/group/salt-users/browse_thread/thread/25f31b5c79c022be?hl=en http://red45.wordpress.com/2011/04/02/salt-0-7-0/ Arch package is available in the Arch AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47512 -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request
On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Seven Seven forauro...@gmail.com wrote: Kaffeine has moved to git, please remove kaffeine-kde4-svn http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18985. Thanks. Destroyed, Thanks!
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request: samsung-unified-driver-*
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Tobias baphome...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, could you please delete the following packages: samsung-unified-driver-base [1], samsung-unified-driver-printer [2] and samsung-unified-driver-scanner [3]. They are outdated and were orphaned until I became their maintainer. The packages are duplicates of samsung-unified-driver which seems to be activly maintained. Cheers 2beers [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31763 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31764 [3] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31765 Destroyed, thanks!
Re: [aur-general] Aur package deletion : caml2html-full
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Baptiste zersto...@free.fr wrote: Hello, I would like to delete an AUR package, whose name is `caml2html-full' (it is replaced by `caml2html') Thanks in advance, Baptiste -- C'est mieux, mais il y a plus cher ailleurs : _ _ _ _ ___ _ / ___| \ | | | | | / / | (_)_ __ _ ___ __ | | _| \| | | | |/ /| | | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / | |_| | |\ | |_| / / | |___| | | | | |_| | \|_| \_|\___/_/ |_|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ GNU/Linux fan Archlinux user BTW, good to see another Ocaml packager coming around, I will take a look at your package, thanks for the contribution!
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:26 PM, Seven Seven forauro...@gmail.com wrote: Plasmate has moved to git, please remove plasmate-svn http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31559. Thanks. Done! Thanks!
Re: [aur-general] request deleted reddictaddictlite
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM, widomaker...@gmail.com widomaker...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, do you can remove the package reddictaddictlite ? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47626 I made a punctuation error , it's replaced by the package redditaddictlite http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47632 Thanks You. Deleted :)
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request libreoffice-extension-atlsearch
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 10:22 PM, sirocco siro...@ngs.ru wrote: Please delete libreoffice-extension-atlsearch http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47635 Reason: typo in pkgname. Replaced by the package http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47636 Done!
Re: [aur-general] Does AUR reject splited packages PKGUBILD?
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:13 PM, 郑文辉 techlivezh...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to update an splited packages PKGBUILD,but it said the pkgname does not allowed charcters but alphabetic,How can I upload such a PKGBUILD instead of split it into two PKGBUILDS? The AUR has problems parsing split pkgbuilds, you have to trick the AUR. There is an example here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/splittest/PKGBUILD
Re: [aur-general] Does AUR reject splited packages PKGUBILD?
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 11:11 PM, 郑文辉 techlivezh...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/18 Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 9:13 PM, 郑文辉 techlivezh...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to update an splited packages PKGBUILD,but it said the pkgname does not allowed charcters but alphabetic,How can I upload such a PKGBUILD instead of split it into two PKGBUILDS? The AUR has problems parsing split pkgbuilds, you have to trick the AUR. There is an example here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/splittest/PKGBUILD I have noticed that,but it seems the splited packages could not be seen or searched,just can be download and compiled along with the base package? Yes, a split package in the AUR can only be seen by the basename, so using tools like yaourt will install all components of the split package. This is a known bug in the AUR, the problem is that parsing split pkgbuilds can be tricky to parse. Namcap recently got a grip on parsing split pkgbuilds, we might see this capability in the AUR, but don't hold your breath
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request: pure-ftpd-mysql
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Christoffer Hirth li...@toffyrn.netwrote: Please delete my package pure-ftpd-mysql as pure-ftpd is now built with both tls and mysql. link: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=26022 Thx --Christoffer Done, Thanks! -Tom Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Gzipped kernel modules
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.orgwrote: Am 11.03.2011 00:45, schrieb Thomas S Hatch: Wait, you are saying that insmod will load gzipped mods if compiled differently? No. depmod, modinfo and modprobe can do it, insmod can't. Thanks! Unfortunately I had to fix it with a dirty, dirty hack, and I will have to write a substantial patch to libguestfs to fix it upstream, but at least it works. Check out my horrid hack: https://github.com/thatch45/archpkgs/blob/master/libguestfs/libguestfs.install While this works, I am open to suggestions :) I also think that this script probably explains my conundrum better.
Re: [aur-general] Gzipped kernel modules
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:37 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.orgwrote: Am 11.03.2011 16:55, schrieb Thomas S Hatch: On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 5:50 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.org wrote: Am 11.03.2011 00:45, schrieb Thomas S Hatch: Wait, you are saying that insmod will load gzipped mods if compiled differently? No. depmod, modinfo and modprobe can do it, insmod can't. Thanks! Unfortunately I had to fix it with a dirty, dirty hack, and I will have to write a substantial patch to libguestfs to fix it upstream, but at least it works. Check out my horrid hack: https://github.com/thatch45/archpkgs/blob/master/libguestfs/libguestfs.install While this works, I am open to suggestions :) I also think that this script probably explains my conundrum better. It looks like it is much easier to teach insmod gzip. If I see this right, it is actually trivial, although I did not try. module-init-tools didn't have a git commit for 9 months, so I don't know how fast they would accept a patch. Yes, that would make it easier, then the fix to libguestfs is very menial. I might look into it
Re: [aur-general] Gzipped kernel modules
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Thomas Bächler tho...@archlinux.orgwrote: Am 11.03.2011 17:41, schrieb Thomas S Hatch: It looks like it is much easier to teach insmod gzip. If I see this right, it is actually trivial, although I did not try. module-init-tools didn't have a git commit for 9 months, so I don't know how fast they would accept a patch. Yes, that would make it easier, then the fix to libguestfs is very menial. I might look into it The file zlibsupport.h offers three functions. One of them is duplicated in insmod.c, but apparently without zlib support. Looking there might be a good start. However, I don't get why you need to use insmod in the first place, and why the order in which you load modules is of any concern. I am not sure exactly why I need insmod either, but the libguestfs devs use it for the specialized vm (I really need to write the wiki article on this, it is very cool). But I will look into it, thanks again!
[aur-general] Gzipped kernel modules
I am the maintainer of libguestfs in the AUR, and to run it uses insmod to load kernel modules into a specialized vm. The problem I am running into is that insmod cannot load the new gz kernel modules, so I unzipped them all to see if that would solve the problem, but now insmod does not seem to load them in the correct order. Does anyone know of a way to get insmod to load gzipped kernel modules? Or is there a way to install the latest kernel without gzipped modules? -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Gzipped kernel modules
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 4:38 PM, jesse jaara jesse.ja...@gmail.com wrote: 11.3.2011 0.52 Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com kirjoitti: I am the maintainer of libguestfs in the AUR, and to run it uses insmod to load kernel modules into a specialized vm. The problem I am running into is that insmod cannot load the new gz kernel modules, so I unzipped them all to see if that would solve the problem, but now insmod does not seem to load them in the correct order. Does anyone know of a way to get insmod to load gzipped kernel modules? Or is there a way to install the latest kernel without gzipped modules? -Thomas S Hatch You can rebuild the kernel from abs and edit the PKGBUILD to not gzip the modules I was afraid that would be the only answer... unfortunately we just discovered that gzipped kernel mods breaks a large portion of our virtualization backend, because we use libguestfs. I will give it a try I am still open to ideas :)
Re: [aur-general] deletion request: ruby-rcairo
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 2:03 AM, solsTiCe d'Hiver solstice.dhi...@gmail.comwrote: Le dimanche 06 mars 2011 à 15:14 -0700, Thomas S Hatch a écrit : That would be great, in these situations I would just post a comment asking the maintainer if there is any difference with this package and the one in community, there is the possibility that the difference is being overlooked. Then ask the maintainers of the dependencies if they can build and run their packages against the one in community - and if so, request that they update their packages to reflect the dep change. I know that it requires a little more effort, but the end result is much cleaner. So you're asking me to do that, now ? Well, I have made a visual diff of the 2 PKGBUILDs, and I assert that the 2 are exactly the same. So the generated package are also identicals. Remove ruby-rcairo http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8491 gruler maintainer, grism maintainer, ruby-gnome2-all maintainer, please use ruby-cairo in [community] instead of ruby-rcairo see ? I have done it with one email ! how hard was it ? Awesome, I will want to wait until the deps are cleaned up and then I will delete ruby-rcairo, thanks for the find!
Re: [aur-general] deletion request: ruby-rcairo
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 7:20 AM, solsTiCe d'Hiver solstice.dhi...@gmail.comwrote: hi. there is a ruby-cairo in [community] that exactly looks like (to me) ruby-rcairo found on AUR at http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=8491 this is not my package. May be ask the maintainer of the interest of such a package ? that's a perfect candidate for deletion. Need to ping maintainer of grism and gruler and ruby-gnome2-all on AUR before the deletion ? That would be great, in these situations I would just post a comment asking the maintainer if there is any difference with this package and the one in community, there is the possibility that the difference is being overlooked. Then ask the maintainers of the dependencies if they can build and run their packages against the one in community - and if so, request that they update their packages to reflect the dep change. I know that it requires a little more effort, but the end result is much cleaner. -Thomas S Hatch Arch Linux Trusted User
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Alessio Sergi ase...@archlinux.us wrote: Hi TUs, please delete the following packages: oxygen-transparent-svn [1] because it's replaced by oxygen-transparent-git [2]. gtk-qt-engine-svn [3] and gtk-qt-engine-git [4] because the project is dead (see the last comment in [4]). gtk-oxygen-engine [5] and gtk-oxygen-engine-git [6] because the project is dead (see the last comment in [6]). Thanks in advance. [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39201 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39201 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=47152 [3] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=9631 [4] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39111 [5] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41525 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41525 [6] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39120 https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39120 -- Alessio Sergi Ok, I deleted them, thanks!
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request: python-rstex
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 1:37 PM, Wieland Hoffmann themi...@googlemail.comwrote: Hi, please delete python-rstex [0] - it needs python2, so I've submitted python2-rstex. [0] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=44012 -- Wieland Deleted! Thanks for you packages!
Re: [aur-general] Please delete libmapi
2011/3/6 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40044 Replaced by the package openchange, no longer serves any purpose (package rename) Deleted, thanks!
Re: [aur-general] TU application (Kyle Keen)
On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Det nimetonma...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/3/11, keenerd keen...@gmail.com wrote: I want to be a TU now for the same reasons I wanted to be a TU then. Arch sucks and it could really use any help it can get ;-) I don't think the phrasing here is really for your benefit. Det I think he is being sarcastic, hence the ;-)
Re: [aur-general] TU application (Kyle Keen)
2011/3/3 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 22:23 +0100, Xyne wrote: Thomas S Hatch wrote: Well, in a sense arch *does* suck in some ways, but it sucks less, as the saying goes :) Well said, I mean we all suck, I just hope I suck less today than I did yesterday That's what she said. *ducks* How is it that TU applications seem to always end up here (a thousand miles away) =) I think that this happens when we don't have a whole lot of concerns about the applicant, but you are right, we should grill keenard on something. Should I ask him to explain how the python GIL works? Or should we try to think of something relevant? -Tom Hatch
Re: [aur-general] TU application (Kyle Keen)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 8:36 AM, keenerd keen...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys. I am Kyle Keen (keenerd) and am applying to be a TU, sponsored by Xyne. You might remember me from a past application three months ago (1). Very little has changed since then, though I do have a few more packages (2). I also started up the first AUR mirror (3), which has allowed me to prototype silly things far far away from any place I could do damage. Some smaller new developments have included jshon (4) (a parser I wrote just because greping the AUR's rpc.php results is painful) and wiki-search (5), a bit of bash to make arch-wiki-docs useful as a stand alone resource. One long term goal would be to get the wiki-search script included with the wiki-docs package. A very long term goal would be to polish up some of the features from AUR3 and get them into the real AUR. Short term, Thomas Hatch has expressed a desire to have two of my packages (pacgraph and zeromq) in community. I've been plugging away at getting the remaining bugs (python3, pacman 3.5, manpage) out of Pacgraph to make this a possibility. ScrotWM should probably also be moved, as it is becoming a more popular window manager. I am also eyeing the request for an ABS maintainer, assuming I can figure out the existing issues. Looking forward to contributing more to Arch! -Kyle (1) http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2010-December/012126.html (2) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=keenerdSeB=mSB=vSO=dPP=75 (3) http://aur3.org (4) http://kmkeen.com/jshon/ (5) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=114291 Kyle, I think that your contributions to Arch have been great and you have displayed having a level head. I am going to mull through some of your packages for a sharper review, but like I said to you before, I hope we can have you on the team! -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] TU application (Kyle Keen)
On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: keenerd wrote: Hi guys. I am Kyle Keen (keenerd) and am applying to be a TU, sponsored by Xyne. I have indeed agreed to sponsor Comrade Keen in his bid to infiltrate the capitalist TU swine. He shall aid us in our mission to put the communism back in community. The package-hoarding pigs must be stopped. May the glorious red star shine upon you, comrade! *hangs large propaganda-laden campaign poster in TU lounge* Comrades Hatch and Chen, initiate plan #5k-ljf6 now! U3RlYWwgYWxsIG9mIHRoZSB0YWNvcyBhbmQgcG91dGluZSwgYW5kIGRpc3RyaWJ1dGUgdGhlbSBp biBleGNoYW5nZSBmb3Igdm90ZXMu Comrade Xyne Comrade Kyle is an invaluable asset to the red cause and needed for the future of the Mother Distro! *Salutes Comrade Xyne* Comrade Hatch
Re: [aur-general] delete request
On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 4:16 PM, speps sp...@gmx.com wrote: Hi TUs, mutt-ncurses http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=20061 is no needed any more since mutt in extra is built against ncurses. cheers - speps - Thanks! Deleted
Re: [aur-general] Please delete minecraft-data
2011/2/25 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com The package minecraft-data [1] is supposed to provide game data for Minecraft. This package is outdated, orphaned and does not comply with the game license [2] (hosting of original game content). Please delete it. Thanks. [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=40928 [2] http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp -- Cédric Girard Done, thanks!
Re: [aur-general] Adding AUR packages to [community] packages' provides
On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Peter Lewis ple...@aur.archlinux.orgwrote: On Friday 25 February 2011 11:12:15 Lukas Fleischer wrote: Well, I'm addressing current blacklisting issues with the AUR [1]. I noticed that some of the packages in the official repos have AUR packages as provides, some of them (well, at least one of them, didn't search for more) were even added due to FRs [2]. Donnu if this applies to [core] and [extra] as well. Is that regular practice? Imho, we shouldn't do that. The AUR is something to be considered separately. If we start to care about provides/conflicts with AUR packages, we'll need to add all -devel/-svn/-git/-beta packages in the AUR to the official packages conflicts and provides as well. And we'll need to start searching for alternative repos to ensure there's no conflict with our official packages. Seriously, we should be consistent here. Can't remember where I read this being discussed, but I'm pretty sure that no package in [core], [extra] or [community] should reference anything in the AUR. Pete. Right, if there is a package that is depending on an AUR package from a supported repo than it is a bug and can be reported. -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] netbeans-full deletion request
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Michael Schubert mschu@gmail.comwrote: Hi, please delete the netbeans-full [1] package. It is unmaintained and just calls the installer instead packaging properly. Regards, Michael [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38345 Deleted, thanks!
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Max Roder maxro...@web.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, please remove eiskaltdcpp-gtk-svn: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39546 I created eiskaltdcpp-gtk-git (they switched to git): http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46384 In addition, I would like to adopt ripit: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12099 And jaolt-svn: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29109 I've sent an email to both authors as of 2011/02/05 and 02/07 - no reaction yet. Got working packages ready for upload. Thanks, Max -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk1by44ACgkQ3izE/HNrNdoq8wCgmqVYELXi9++/LYY0Q9W/rUhp GBgAnA4ZVJDHO5mAUYRVT56W3XhRzxZC =M0du -END PGP SIGNATURE- So, you want us to orphan some of these so you can take them and delete some because they are being replaced? Please specify, we would hate to delete the wrong packages :) -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Max Roder maxro...@web.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas S Hatch wrote on 02/16/2011 05:57 PM: So, you want us to orphan some of these so you can take them and delete some because they are being replaced? Please specify, we would hate to delete the wrong packages :) Sorry for inaccuracy. Here again, hopefully more clearly: eiskaltdcpp-gtk-git was uploaded by me, so I would suggest to delete eiskaltdcpp-gtk-svn [1], as it's obsolete now. Furthermore, I would like to adopt ripit [2] and jaolt-svn [3] - please orphan them. Thanks in advance, Max [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=39546 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12099 [3] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29109 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk1cSLgACgkQ3izE/HNrNdpw5QCeNUx5Ncbl9Po6JxIifk+/wZwv zSkAoOEzLKPfD+o0Ov21cF2K1sSD10r9 =A5ho -END PGP SIGNATURE- Deleted and orphaned, thanks for the clarification.
Re: [aur-general] AUR Copyright
My understanding was that PKGBUILDs in the Arch distribution would fall under the same licence as Arch, and be part of the larger Arch Linux codebase. With that said, I think that this can be resolved with a statement on the AUR submit page that simply reads: Any package information submitted to the Arch Linux AUR can be included in the main Arch Linux distribution at any time as deemed proper by an Arch Linux Developer or Trusted User. By submitting package information to the Arch Linux AUR you agree to the aforementioned possibility. Or something to that effect, licencing the individual PKGBUILDS will end in tears and legal madness, it will be a long term disaster! We just need the users to understand that if their stuff is awesome, we will most likely use it. And that Arch reserves the right to use it. -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] AIDE out-of-date
2011/2/10 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 03:21 -0800, Tony C wrote: Hi, AIDE has been flagged out-of-date since July of 2010. I went ahead and tidied up the PKGBUILD for the most recent version of AIDE. Please update this in AUR. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22591 Kind Regards, Any reason you're not requesting a disown and taking the package? I think that I am going to move this to community, AIDE is a cornerstone security application, but with that said, have you sent the maintainer an email? -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] AIDE out-of-date
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 9:50 AM, Tony C crt@gmail.com wrote: On 02/10/2011 08:03 AM, Thomas S Hatch wrote: 2011/2/10 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 03:21 -0800, Tony C wrote: Hi, AIDE has been flagged out-of-date since July of 2010. I went ahead and tidied up the PKGBUILD for the most recent version of AIDE. Please update this in AUR. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22591 Kind Regards, Any reason you're not requesting a disown and taking the package? No reason. I think that I am going to move this to community, AIDE is a cornerstone security application, but with that said, have you sent the maintainer an email? -Thomas S Hatch I agree, AIDE is a cornerstone security application. I have already emailed the maintainer. I think it should be moved to community since it has a fair share of votes. -- Tony I will email the maintainer and let him know that I will be moving it. I will get to it tonight. -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Disown request
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM, rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I tried to have the maintainer of *lib32-gtk-engines* and *lib32-libidl2* to fix the PKGBUILDs to comply Multilib, but got no answer by email for 10 days now. I got it ready to upload. Please disown these 2 packages? Thanks Please send us the links so that we have a higher assurance that we are disowning the correct packages -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Disown request
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:28 PM, rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/2/7 Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 5:22 PM, rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there. I tried to have the maintainer of *lib32-gtk-engines* and *lib32-libidl2* to fix the PKGBUILDs to comply Multilib, but got no answer by email for 10 days now. I got it ready to upload. Please disown these 2 packages? Thanks Please send us the links so that we have a higher assurance that we are disowning the correct packages -Thomas S Hatch lib32-gtk-engines - http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18651 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18651lib32-libidl2 - http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18536 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18536I saw this coming. Sorry :P No worries, I just like to make sure I am hitting the right packages, if my packages were disowned or deleted by mistake I would be a bit sad :) They have been orphaned, take good care of them. -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Delete Request
Deleted, thanks for letting us know!
Re: [aur-general] AUR PKGBUILD Deletion Request
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 7:59 PM, Slash demode...@gmail.com wrote: Greetings, The following packages need to be deleted: 1) ezquake-skins: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7069 2) ezquake-textures: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7068 These packages have a bunch of random, out of date, some no longer relevant assets, which should never have been bundled together in the first place. In addition, they are not directly related, nor depend on ezquake, so they should not have been named as such. I have created a new proper package to take the place of these two, with the work from the Quake Retexturing Project (QRP), quake-qrp-textures ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45791 ). I posted a comment on the two aforementioned packages to warn users ahead of time. Thank you in advance, Slash Sounds reasonable, DELETED -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] AUR Copyright
You raise a good point, I would think that we would need to post something on the submit page stating the copyright nature. My brothers are lawyers, I will check with them as to what the right thing to do is. -Thomas S Hatch On Feb 6, 2011 10:49 AM, Xyne x...@archlinux.ca wrote: Eric Waller wrote: I am not a lawyer and I generally tune out all license flame wars. That said, PKGBUILDS generally do not contain copyright or license declarations. Unless I am mistaken, that means someone who comes into possession of a PKGBUILD does not have the right to republish it. As a minimum, I think Arch should get a nod from the creator of a PKGBUILD prior to absorbing it into the colective -- It might help avoid any misunderstandings. What is the legal status of files submitted to the AUR? I have always assumed that anything uploaded to the AUR is automatically licensed under the GPL or something similar, in the same way that content contributed to the wiki is. I can't find anything that states this on the AUR site, which is a potentially calamitous legal oversight. The legal issue should be cleared up. If we needed to obtain explicit permission from every contributor then the AUR would cease to be useful. You would not be able to adopt and update PKGBUILDs without permission, and you would need to enable users to delete their own PKGBUILDs when they decide to withdraw permission.
Re: [aur-general] Errors on submission: Invalid name: only lowercase letters are allowed
You can get around the split package bug this way: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=42514
Re: [aur-general] [Announcement] First public git repo of the complete AUR.
2011/2/6 Thomas Dziedzic gos...@gmail.com 2011/2/6 Thomas Dziedzic gos...@gmail.com: 2011/2/6 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com: 2011/2/6 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com: What's this? http://pkgbuild.com/git/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD It seems there's more: apercu.tgz Yes, I know, the aur tree isn't completely clean, for now, you will have to deal with it. I will try to clean up my rules this evening. Thanks for your suggestions :) This is awesome, thanks!
Re: [aur-general] AUR Copyright
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.comwrote: 2011/2/6 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca: What is the legal status of files submitted to the AUR? I have always assumed that anything uploaded to the AUR is automatically licensed under the GPL or something similar, in the same way that content contributed to the wiki is. Ownership and authorship aren't the same. In the first place the GPL lisence requires the copyright notice to exist. It is actually based on authorship, the first line is a copyright notice. And there is nothing bad about it. Anyway atributing the work is a good thing. Good people atributive the works of their friends. Of course, if you revise the code in a not superficial way you also have some authorship in that piece of code, then it's a team work. Or... you can interpret that the buildscript are Public Domain, then Arch, TU, IBM, Apple etc., all can use it without atributing anything. But since it is only useful for Arch users in the end... it is the same thing in practice. Realy I think that this is a simple thing, that we should just post some statement that says that anything uploaded to the AUR can be absorbed into the Arch Linux distribution. When PKGBUILDS are in the AUR I could care less who's they are, but they are Arch Linux's when they are moved to community/extra/core. So my initial thought would be that the submit page just needs to say - in effect - Dude, we can move your package into the main distribution whenever we want to and it will be assimilated, this should be cool with you, because Arch is the best
Re: [aur-general] deletion request
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Seven Seven forauro...@gmail.com wrote: Please delete kde`s pkg: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=19552 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36568 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=46070 Thanks Annihilated, thanks
Re: [aur-general] License installation
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:20 PM, rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the reply, Kaiting. I actually understand what license is for
each packages. My question is if, in the PKGBUILD, I should set a
folder/symlink for each package in /usr/share/licenses/$pkgname
For example: package is LGPL. I have license package installed. Should I
symilink from common/LGPL folder to ${pkgname} ? Or do nothing - and leave
as it is?
2011/2/7 Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:50 PM, rafael ff1 rafael.f...@gmail.com
wrote:
I read Licenses https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Licenses and
PKGBUILDhttps://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PKGBUILDpages at
Archwiki and I've been wondering: case a software's license is one
the common ones (ex: GPL), if the PKGBUILD should do some kind of
reference
(symlink) from /usr/share/licenses/common/GPL/ to
/usr/share/licenses/${pkgname}/ or.. do nothing, maybe?
`pacman -Qi $pkgname | grep Licenses` --Kaiting.
--
Kiwis and Limes: http://kaitocracy.blogspot.com/
For common licences that already exist, you don't need to make a symlink in
the package, the licence files already exist on the machine, and the correct
licence in the PKGBUILD is enough.
You only really need to include the licence if it is not one
of these installed in the licences directory.
Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Gergely Imreh imr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the process feels a little uneasy to me. My impression is that AUR is treated as a second class source of packages compared to the official repos. Not surprising, of course, so many packages have problems. This is also underlined by the fact that yaourt and other AUR managers are not allowed in the official repos, as not to give the impression that AUR is official (paraphrasing what I've read before). If there is indeed this divide, it feels more than little weird, that popular packages are just taken in to Community without even asking the current managers. It gives me the message that AUR has no value, except when we say it has, at which time thanks for your work but now bugger off. I beg your pardon, if it comes through too harsh. I wouldn't have objected to have those packages moved. I, however, object to unilateral decisions. My proposition is: could it be a policy to check with the maintainer first before initiating a move? If someone wants to keep a package then they should be able to, especially since they could not have been doing such a a bad job if their package has become popular. Cheers, Greg Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the maintainer of a package for objections before moving a package into community. I also want to continue to express my deep gratitude for the packagers who contribute to the AUR. They are really the frontline in Arch development, the blood on the knife's edge. We as trusted users need to show the devs in the AUR the utmost respect and appreciation. I would also like to point out: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TU_Person_Specification All TUs we should adhere to the first bullet under At Least on this wiki entry. I hope that my fellow TUs agree that we should give AUR contributors the utmost respect, they deserve it. A behavior of respect will help us, the TUs, improve Arch, it will allow us to bring more people onto the Arch development teams, and continue our march to making Arch greater. -Thomas S Hatch -Arch Linux Trusted User
Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.dewrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the maintainer of a package for objections before moving a package into community. I also want to continue to express my deep gratitude for the packagers who contribute to the AUR. They are really the frontline in Arch development, the blood on the knife's edge. We as trusted users need to show the devs in the AUR the utmost respect and appreciation. I would also like to point out: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TU_Person_Specification All TUs we should adhere to the first bullet under At Least on this wiki entry. I hope that my fellow TUs agree that we should give AUR contributors the utmost respect, they deserve it. A behavior of respect will help us, the TUs, improve Arch, it will allow us to bring more people onto the Arch development teams, and continue our march to making Arch greater. I personally asked for objections using AUR comments in most cases and waited some days before moving stuff. Nevertheless, I don't see a huge problem with just moving stuff. Moving a package to the binary repos shouldn't be regarded as stealing but as an improvement for the community. The AUR ain't a place for competitions (like Which package has the most votes? or Who maintains the coolest packages?) but a place to provide source packages until a TU/Dev steps up and maintains the package in [community]/[extra]/[core]. Still, I'd prefer to have some announcement before moving a package. And another one just before removing it (so that users being notified about a package become aware of the move). AUR comments seem to be the appropriate place for this. Angel has many good and valid points, I am proud of my contributions to open source and to Arch. My willingness to give without the expectation of receiving anything back has given me, personally, much more than I could have expected. Also it is true, that what you submit to the AUR, Arch reserves rights to. But these points should not reduce the fact that a person contributed the package, and even when I have had to completely rewrite a PKGBUILD before moving the package to community I still think that it is important to recognize the maintainer who paved the road. I am going to maintain, that a TU is not to be required to contact the AUR maintainer, but it is the courteous thing to do, and that we should develop and maintain an atmosphere of respect. To reiterate Lukas, notifications should ALWAYS be placed before deleting AUR packages and moving AUR packages to community. Thats how I would draw the line, posting the comments about moves and deletions should be mandatory, and contacting the maintainer should be a strongly encouraged courtesy. -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Thomas Dziedzic gos...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.dewrote: On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the maintainer of a package for objections before moving a package into community. I also want to continue to express my deep gratitude for the packagers who contribute to the AUR. They are really the frontline in Arch development, the blood on the knife's edge. We as trusted users need to show the devs in the AUR the utmost respect and appreciation. I would also like to point out: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TU_Person_Specification All TUs we should adhere to the first bullet under At Least on this wiki entry. I hope that my fellow TUs agree that we should give AUR contributors the utmost respect, they deserve it. A behavior of respect will help us, the TUs, improve Arch, it will allow us to bring more people onto the Arch development teams, and continue our march to making Arch greater. I personally asked for objections using AUR comments in most cases and waited some days before moving stuff. Nevertheless, I don't see a huge problem with just moving stuff. Moving a package to the binary repos shouldn't be regarded as stealing but as an improvement for the community. The AUR ain't a place for competitions (like Which package has the most votes? or Who maintains the coolest packages?) but a place to provide source packages until a TU/Dev steps up and maintains the package in [community]/[extra]/[core]. Still, I'd prefer to have some announcement before moving a package. And another one just before removing it (so that users being notified about a package become aware of the move). AUR comments seem to be the appropriate place for this. Angel has many good and valid points, I am proud of my contributions to open source and to Arch. My willingness to give without the expectation of receiving anything back has given me, personally, much more than I could have expected. Also it is true, that what you submit to the AUR, Arch reserves rights to. But these points should not reduce the fact that a person contributed the package, and even when I have had to completely rewrite a PKGBUILD before moving the package to community I still think that it is important to recognize the maintainer who paved the road. I am going to maintain, that a TU is not to be required to contact the AUR maintainer, but it is the courteous thing to do, and that we should develop and maintain an atmosphere of respect. To reiterate Lukas, notifications should ALWAYS be placed before deleting AUR packages and moving AUR packages to community. Thats how I would draw the line, posting the comments about moves and deletions should be mandatory, and contacting the maintainer should be a strongly encouraged courtesy. -Thomas S Hatch I agree. Even if the packages are part of archlinux, the courteous thing to do would be to send an email before moving the packages to see if the original maintainer is onboard with it. Though he may not own it, he does have a sense of authorship, and that needs to be taken into account. We're still dealing with people here :) -Thomas I want to make sure that no one gets me wrong, I agree with Angel, and I feel strongly that the technical progress of Arch Linux should in no way be hampered by political or social barriers. But often the best way to avoid making political and social barriers is through respect and courtesy. As far as I know, the TUs make an effort to show this courtesy and respect. If an AUR contributor does not feel that they have been treated fairly, then they should email the TU that adopted the package and KINDLY (we get emails from crazy people sometimes, and those usually get ignored) let them know that a notification would have been nice, and ask for the courtesy next time. We want to be kind and respectful, but we also want Arch to kick more butt, and to be quite honest, we TUs probably all care more about Arch kicking butt, than we care about your feelings. With that said, I think that it is most likely that contributors care much more about Arch kicking butt than they do about their own feelings. We all make mistakes, but as a whole we can put the mistakes aside and work on the overall betterment of Linux, open source and freedom, isn't that what this is all about? -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] deletion request: dino-git
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Philipp Überbacher hollun...@lavabit.comwrote: Excerpts from masutu's message of 2011-02-04 18:22:35 +0100: Hi TUs, can you please delete dino-git ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33598)? I'm the maintainer of this package and want it to be deleted because a) PKGBUILD is broken, outdated and i can't get current git versions to compile (neither master branch nor Branch_0_2) b) dino is not very popular, dino has 3 votes, dino-git 0 votes, so i think, we can live without the git package masutu Popularity or the lack of it is no reason for deletion from AUR, IMHO. Community is for the popular packages. If it doesn't build orphaning the package is the way to go IMHO, someone else can take it over, take what's there already or start from scratch. This was not a question of popularity, masutu was just being awesome and covering his bases. masutu asked for the packages to be deleted because he was the maintainer and no longer felt that the package was needed, as the maintainer he holds that prerogative. But yes, a lack of popularity is not grounds alone for package removal
Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Maxime Wack maximew...@free.fr wrote: Le -10/01/-28163 20:59, Hilton Medeiros a écrit : Now, that is outrageous. Stealing your package is already a very nasty thing to do, but not replying to your email is unforgivable! From today onwards we shall call him: Jelle, the Soulless. Wow, I didn't expect to be trolled on aur-general… Let's just shorten everything to one question : what is a community without communication ? I don't think that Hilton was trolling you Maxime, just poking a little fun at Jelle.
Re: [aur-general] deletion request: dino-git
On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:22 AM, masutu masutu.a...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi TUs, can you please delete dino-git ( http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33598)? I'm the maintainer of this package and want it to be deleted because a) PKGBUILD is broken, outdated and i can't get current git versions to compile (neither master branch nor Branch_0_2) b) dino is not very popular, dino has 3 votes, dino-git 0 votes, so i think, we can live without the git package masutu Deleted, Thanks! -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Xavier D. magicrhe...@ouranos.be wrote: Hey hey, Please delete pyst (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=18003) as it's redundant with python2-pyst ( https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45981) Thanks Done
Re: [aur-general] Delete request
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Anton Larionov diffident@gmail.comwrote: mahjongforunix http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=5 Duplicate extra/mahjong -- Regards, Anton Larionov Thanks, Deleted!
Re: [aur-general] Orphan request for 'congruity' and 'python-libconcord'
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Andreas Baumann abaum...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Now being a proud owner of a Logitech 600 I would like to try the 'congruity' and 'python-libconcord' packages. They seem not to be updated to 'python2'. I would like to adapt them.. Greetings Andreas Please send us links to the packages, we would hate to orphan the wrong ones :) Also, have you sent an email to the present maintainer requesting the packages be updated? Typically we like to give them the chance to hang onto their packages, sometimes things just get missed. -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Orphan request for 'congruity' and 'python-libconcord'
On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Andreas Baumann abaum...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 02, 2011 at 10:01:07AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Andreas Baumann abaum...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Now being a proud owner of a Logitech 600 I would like to try the 'congruity' and 'python-libconcord' packages. They seem not to be updated to 'python2'. I would like to adapt them.. Greetings Andreas Please send us links to the packages, we would hate to orphan the wrong ones :) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41637 and http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41639 Also, have you sent an email to the present maintainer requesting the packages be updated? Typically we like to give them the chance to hang onto their packages, sometimes things just get missed. No, I dind't ask. Sorry. I'll do that.. Greetings Andreas -Thomas S Hatch -- Andreas Baumann Trottenstrasse 20 CH-8037 Zuerich Telefon: +41(0)76/373 01 29 E-mail: abaum...@yahoo.com Homepage: www.andreasbaumann.cc Thanks! We try hard to balance maintaining quality in the AUR and keeping people happy (especially since keeping people happy encourages higher quality!). Thanks again, give them a week or two so to respond, then we will happily orphan the packages for you! -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Seblu - Results.
On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:28 PM, Thomas Dziedzic gos...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Seblu se...@seblu.net wrote: On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Peter Lewis ple...@aur.archlinux.org wrote: On Sunday 23 January 2011 16:15:41 Peter Lewis wrote: On Sunday 16 January 2011 21:07:28 Peter Lewis wrote: On Sunday 16 January 2011 20:37:13 Seblu wrote: Tonight I decided to propose me as TU. My sponsor is Peter Lewis. I am indeed. Let the discussion period begin! The discussion period has now ended and voting can begin. Please pop along to the AUR to do so: http://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=47 Voting is now closed and the results are in: Yes - 7 No - 11 Abstain - 5 Quoracy was reached (74%) with a total of 23 / 31 active+voting TUs casting their votes. Sorry Sébastien, on this occasion I'm afraid you were unsuccessful. According to the bylaws, you're welcome to apply again after a minimum period of three months. I wonder if it might be useful at this stage for some of the TUs to give Sébastien some advice on improving his application in case he decides to reapply in the future. Thanks for your support Peter and thoses we vote for me. Hey Seblu, I would just like to thank you for your application, even if it didn't go the way you had hoped for. It seems like your intentions are good, but you somewhat lacking in experience. That said, I would welcome you to apply again once you started getting more involved with the community. One suggestion is to become really good with packages and maintain a lot more of them, but other skills would also be nice, fix bugs etc. Cheers! I just saw this Sebula, I hope that you consider re-applying once you have a few more packages under your belt, you are very close to becoming a TU and we would love to have you! -Thomas S Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Deletion request: nouveau-drm-snapshot
On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Calimero calimerotek...@free.fr wrote: Hello, The package nouveau-drm-snapshot makes no more sense, for nouveau's DRM now is in the kernel26 package. Can a TU delete it ? http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=29602 Thank you ! Deleted, thanks
Re: [aur-general] Deletion requests
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 5:30 PM, David Campbell davek...@archlinux.uswrote: Please delete the follow packages for which I made python2 versions named python2-modulename, but don't have any python3 version yet. python2-paste: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45848 python2-paste-deploy: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16883 python2-paste-script: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45880 python2-webhelpers: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45846 Please also delete python-pylons, which after updating, I renamed pylons, since that is how the other web frameworks are named. https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16886 -- David Campbell Deleted, but: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=16883python2-paste-script points to a python-paste-deploy package, you want to keep that one right?
Re: [aur-general] Deletion requests
Heh, that was close, I almost deleted it! Ok, got the last one
Re: [aur-general] Delete request for perl-test-exception.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Justin Davis jrc...@gmail.com wrote: I uploaded perl-test-exception while in a hurry. Please delete it because the same version is already in [community]. http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11000 Thanks, juster / aurperl Destroyed
Re: [aur-general] Proposal for the reinstatement of AUR Cleanup Day.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:40 AM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarr...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/25 Xyne x...@archlinux.ca: If you want a better system, add deletion and orphan request buttons to the AUR interface that send an email to this list automatically or, even better, create a TU dashboard for the AUR where TUs can view submitted requests, along with reasons, how long packages have been flagged out-of-date, whether the maintainer has been emailed, etc. Packages could be automatically added to the dashboard for consideration when certain conditions are met, e.g. no updates or downloads in over a year. Very good suggestions. I am going to go with Xyne, raising the level of awareness will aid in our ability to keep the AUR clean. I would also ask, is there a way to generate a list of packages that have been flaged out of date for more than n days?
Re: [aur-general] Proposal for the reinstatement of AUR Cleanup Day.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:59 AM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.dewrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 10:43:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: I would also ask, is there a way to generate a list of packages that have been flaged out of date for more than n days? Yes, there is. We did something similar during the last AUR cleanup (about three months ago iirc) to delete all packages that have been flagged for a long time. We also pushed a patch to aur.git [1] that adds out-of-date timestamps to packages in the package details view which might make life for TUs (and users as well) a bit easier (will be in 1.8.0). There is a feature request for a Flag for deletion button [2], feel free to join the discussion in the comments section. I'll look into that later. This probably won't go into 1.8.0 tho. [1] http://projects.archlinux.org/aur.git/commit/?id=eda713032ce9bed773b6c927b2f6ac4b445fe577 [2] https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/16831 Excellent, Thanks Lukas! -Tom
Re: [aur-general] Proposal for the reinstatement of AUR Cleanup Day.
I am all for days to clean up the never ending disaster!
Re: [aur-general] [arch-general] Please settle 'base' in 'depends' for all
As a reference, redhat/fedora have this same problem, the packages which need not be included as deps are the packages used when creating the chroot on the fedora build server, koji, This list is very short, give me a minute and I will dig it up, but it is only say 10 packages long. Personally though, my vote is for base devel and a subset of base.
Re: [aur-general] Any TU feel like maintaining eric5 in extra/community?
Personally I am going to agree, I think that this should be in community/extra If no one else says anything I will look into picking it up.
Re: [aur-general] TU Application -Thomas Hatch: Voting period
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Peter Lewis ple...@aur.archlinux.orgwrote: On Thursday 20 January 2011 15:32:49 Ionuț Bîru wrote: The results are: yes 20 no0 abstain 8 Congratulations Tom! Welcome aboard the good ship TU! Pete. Thanks Peter, I am excited to be on board :)
Re: [aur-general] TU Application -Thomas Hatch: Voting period
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:34 PM, Brad Fanella bradfane...@archlinux.uswrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 9:32 AM, Ionuț Bîru ib...@archlinux.org wrote: On 01/11/2011 08:24 PM, Xyne wrote: The voting period for Thomas Hatch's application has begun: https://aur.archlinux.org/tu.php?id=46 Please make your way to the AUR and vote. :) voting period has ended two days ago. The results are: yes 20 no0 abstain 8 Congratulation for our new member. Here is the todo list: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines#TODO_list_for_new_Trusted_Users -- Ionuț Not to sound like a broken record, but congratulations! :-) Broken records with congratulations are welcome here :) Thanks!
Re: [aur-general] Any TU feel like maintaining eric5 in extra/community?
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Brad Fanella bradfane...@archlinux.uswrote: On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I am going to agree, I think that this should be in community/extra If no one else says anything I will look into picking it up. I'd be happy to take it if you don't mind. :-) Regards, Brad Fine by me :)
Re: [aur-general] delete request
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Gergely Imreh imr...@gmail.com wrote: Please delete python3-pyke http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45332 I uploaded a new package, python-pyke to follow the name convention of Arch for Python packages. Cheers, Greg Deleted, thanks for the update Greg! -Tom Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Request removal: ffmpeg-vp8-svn, servicemenu-kvm-kde4, winff-corrected
On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:34 PM, Lou l...@fakeoutdoorsman.com wrote: ffmpeg-vp8-svn http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37297 Orphan. Does not compile. FFmpeg in extra now has libvpx encoder making this package useless. servicemenu-kvm-kde4 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=36180 Orphan. Uses depreciated options that will not work with ffmpeg from extra. Upstream has been inactive for nearly 2 years. winff-corrected http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31348 Source is 404. Maintainer said, do whatever you want. I do not use Linux anymore. Thanks for finding these! they have been destroyed. -Tom Hatch
[aur-general] deletion request - ocamlgraph-withoutfindlib
There was a triple duplicate package of ocamlgraph, I have been working with the other 2 maintainers to come to a consensus as to how it should be packaged. A consensus has been reached, please delete the last duplicate! https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31755 -Tom Hatch
[aur-general] Package deletion request
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=21687 is a duplicate of the correctly named ocaml-ocamlgraph, please delete it. -Tom Hatch
[aur-general] Duplicate package
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41219 Is a duplicate of community/python-pexpect This should be deleted right?
Re: [aur-general] Duplicate package
On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:29 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.comwrote: On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=41219 Is a duplicate of community/python-pexpect This should be deleted right? Indeed, and done. Thanks for the verification :) And the deletion :)
Re: [aur-general] Please delete ttf-ms-extrafonts
2011/1/13 Christoph ch...@gmx.at Am Donnerstag, 13. Januar 2011, 18:21:41 schrieb Peter Lewis: On Thursday 13 January 2011 17:01:42 Ng Oon-Ee wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 16:57 +0100, Stefan Husmann wrote: Am 13.01.2011 16:00, schrieb Marcel Korpel: Hi everyone, Can someone please delete ttf-ms-extrafonts [1]; it has no maintainer and as mutlu_inek said in the comments his ttf-vista-fonts [2] provides the same fonts and has a more liberal license. Regards, Marcel [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=35297 [2] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10408 Done, thank you. Slight OT, thanks for pointing out this package, I now have more font compatibility than previously =) Indeed! Even more OT, wouldn't it be kinda cool if there was a mailing list or something where people could post simply with news of new packages? I can't imagine it would be very high traffic, but it would be interesting to read in order to try new software out. AUR Home tells me: Packages added or updated in the past 7 days: 2804 This makes an average of 400 per day, 16 per hour... In my opinion that's too many... Cheers, Christoph I thought that the community contributions was the place to post about new packages, thats where I put info about things like varch and libguestfs, but I agree, some sort of pipe to talk about the new packages would be a nice thing to have, while I recognize the scope of adoptions and package updates I still think it is worth consideration. -Tom Hatch
Re: [aur-general] Please delete ttf-ms-extrafonts
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Joel Heaton jhea...@archlinux.us wrote: On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 11:04 -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: 2011/1/13 Christoph ch...@gmx.at Indeed! Even more OT, wouldn't it be kinda cool if there was a mailing list or something where people could post simply with news of new packages? I can't imagine it would be very high traffic, but it would be interesting to read in order to try new software out. AUR Home tells me: Packages added or updated in the past 7 days: 2804 This makes an average of 400 per day, 16 per hour... In my opinion that's too many... Cheers, Christoph I thought that the community contributions was the place to post about new packages, thats where I put info about things like varch and libguestfs, but I agree, some sort of pipe to talk about the new packages would be a nice thing to have, while I recognize the scope of adoptions and package updates I still think it is worth consideration. -Tom Hatch I agree. Furthermore, I don't think everyone who updates or releases a package would make an announcement, so whilst it may be there are 16 submissions per-hour to the AUR, it's very unlikely that there would be 16 announcements per-hour on a mailing list created for the purpose of making such announcements. Of course, I'm not really in a position to say whether or not the potential level of traffic is too great, but I would like to see such a list implemented if it were at all possible. Regards, Joel. One of my greatest professional advantages is found in software awareness, knowing what is out there and what I can leverage, I agree with Joel that it would be highly advantageous to the community to have a place to post this sort of stuff. If anything else presenting it as an experiment, I think, is worth consideration. -Tom
Re: [aur-general] List for new package announcements?
2011/1/13 Peter Lewis ple...@aur.archlinux.org On Thursday 13 January 2011 18:00:12 Christoph wrote: Slight OT, thanks for pointing out this package, I now have more font compatibility than previously =) Indeed! Even more OT, wouldn't it be kinda cool if there was a mailing list or something where people could post simply with news of new packages? I can't imagine it would be very high traffic, but it would be interesting to read in order to try new software out. AUR Home tells me: Packages added or updated in the past 7 days: 2804 This makes an average of 400 per day, 16 per hour... In my opinion that's too many... Well, that includes every package that's even just version bumped! I don't know, but I'd imagine that updates to existing packages make up the vast majority of the uploads to the AUR. I had in mind a list with no automation, just a place where people could post notifications about a *new* package upload, not foo is now at version 2.3. I don't think update notifications would be at all appropriate, unless they provide significant new functionality that might make someone look anew at a piece of software. A message might look like this: Subject: AUR/ttf-vista-fonts ttf-vista fonts is a new package which provides nice new fonts included in Windows Vista. Installing this might help with font compatibility in some applications. (or something like that). Also, it should be totally optional, just a place for useful voluntary notices, really. I certainly don't think that it would be high traffic. On Thursday 13 January 2011 18:34:23 Thomas S Hatch wrote: I agree, some sort of pipe to talk about the new packages would be a nice thing to have, while I recognize the scope of adoptions and package updates I still think it is worth consideration. I agree. Furthermore, I don't think everyone who updates or releases a package would make an announcement, so whilst it may be there are 16 submissions per-hour to the AUR, it's very unlikely that there would be 16 announcements per-hour on a mailing list created for the purpose of making such announcements. Of course, I'm not really in a position to say whether or not the potential level of traffic is too great, but I would like to see such a list implemented if it were at all possible. One of my greatest professional advantages is found in software awareness, knowing what is out there and what I can leverage, I agree with Joel that it would be highly advantageous to the community to have a place to post this sort of stuff. If anything else presenting it as an experiment, I think, is worth consideration. Okay. Let's wait for a few more opinions - this wouldn't have to be just AUR either. New stuff in the binary repos could be included too. Pete. My vote is all for this, I think it would be a hugely advantageous place to discuss packages moving into Arch, and great place to post information about packages graduating to community. For what it is worth +1 :) -Tom Hatch
Re: [aur-general] List for new package announcements?
2011/1/13 Ng Oon-Ee ngoo...@gmail.com On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 18:55 +, Peter Lewis wrote: Okay. Let's wait for a few more opinions - this wouldn't have to be just AUR either. New stuff in the binary repos could be included too. Pete. There ARE no new packages in the binary repos =p. From what I've seen, everything starts life in the AUR (as an alpha/beta of something). Anything that goes into the binary repos is discussed on [arch-dev-public] first. Right everything does start in the AUR, but if a package is moving from the AUR into community, it is probably a noteworthy package, and a noteworthy event - and I want to hear about it. Also, when there is a major update to a package, I would love to hear about it. Maintaining a radar on the vast array of open source software packages is hard, but this strikes me as one of the best ways for us to be given simple news, presented by the people packaging the software. This would also make a great place for the packager to let the rest of the community know about their latest packages, and why they bothered to package them at all. -Tom Hatch
Re: [aur-general] delete request
2011/1/10 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Brad Fanella bradfane...@archlinux.us wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Matthias Rascher paterbr...@silberhelme.de wrote: Hi, can somebody delete this packages... 1) obsolete http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45068 the package name was changed (see package comment by chmurli) 2) duplicate http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37238 the package is redundant (see package comment by alexwizard) Thanks Done and done. Thank you. :-D Regards, Brad What was the name of these packages ? -- Cédric Girard Yes, brad just annihilated those packages in mere seconds, what were the names? -Tom Hatch
Re: [aur-general] delete request
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Brad Fanella bradfane...@archlinux.uswrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/10 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 11:30 PM, Brad Fanella bradfane...@archlinux.us wrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Matthias Rascher paterbr...@silberhelme.de wrote: Hi, can somebody delete this packages... 1) obsolete http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=45068 the package name was changed (see package comment by chmurli) 2) duplicate http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=37238 the package is redundant (see package comment by alexwizard) Thanks Done and done. Thank you. :-D Regards, Brad What was the name of these packages ? -- Cédric Girard Yes, brad just annihilated those packages in mere seconds, what were the names? -Tom Hatch Um...uh... I don't quite remember to be quite honest. I did verify that they were obsolete/duplicates, however, so I suppose there's no harm done. Heh, I am not worried about harm, just curious! Congrats on being so fast on the draw!
Re: [aur-general] delete request
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:07 PM, Brad Fanella bradfane...@archlinux.uswrote: On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/1/11 Cédric Girard girard.ced...@gmail.com: What was the name of these packages ? Using my brand new time machine, I went back in time and noted their names; borderless-elementary-gtk-theme and nautilus-elementary-ur respectively. Awesome, any way I can take a look at your time machine, it is a delorean? A Tardis? :) Really though what is this time machine?
Re: [aur-general] delete request
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Evangelos Foutras foutre...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 5:13 AM, Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: Really though what is this time machine? I might have exaggerated a little bit about the time machine part. :3 ... Or maybe I do have a real time machine and I'm keeping its existence a secret (albeit not doing a great job at it). ... Nah, it was just cached pages of those links by Google. ... *Hops into the time machine to go back and warn his past self about mentioning the machine in public.* pfft witty I should have thought of that! Thanks!
[aur-general] deletion request - xml-light
Please delete xml-light, it is a misnamed duplicate of ocaml-xml-light http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12207
Re: [aur-general] deletion request - xml-light
On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Thorsten Töpper atsut...@freethoughts.dewrote: On Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:12:49 -0700 Thomas S Hatch thatc...@gmail.com wrote: Please delete xml-light, it is a misnamed duplicate of ocaml-xml-light http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=12207 Done. -- Jabber: atsut...@freethoughts.de Blog: http://atsutane.freethoughts.de/ Key: 295AFBF4 FP: 39F8 80E5 0E49 A4D1 1341 E8F9 39E4 F17F 295A FBF4 Thanks!
