[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation and identification
Lexi/Marilyn, That's what George said...the men's entrance was because of the liquor. You never know with pictures. I had one that I took around for a few years. I was helping a man at my FHC in Los Angeles on his Portuguese lines. We never found a connection (yet). He asked me to come over around Christmas and meet his parents from RI. I came with old photos. His father identified some of the people in the photo! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Vila Franca do Campo visit
Cheri and others, I'm hoping that perhaps you can provide some advice to us regarding our upcoming visit to Vila Franca do Campo in about one month.We hope to locate relatives there but do not have much information to go on, other than the fact the family could be from the St. Michael's parish. When the family emigrated in 1904, the eldest daughter stayed behind. We know her name, that she was a teacher, and that when her younger sister visited her many years later she reportedly still lived in VF and had a houseful of children and grandchildren. Our living cousins here in the US have scoured their family records trying to help us find more information without success. We know that she as born pre-1892. While we've searched LDS films for her parents vitals, we don't know any of hers. We've struck out on the parents as well, and are thinking that they could have been baptized and married at another parish even thought their passport records id this as their parish. We also have some family photos, but none that include this eldest daughter. Still we hope they might be useful, and have made reprints to use when we are there. Other than simply walking around and asking town residents, I wonder if you have any advice for us. We have also timed our visited to coincide with the annual parish festa, in hopes that this could afford additional opportunities for us. We hope that if we can find her decedents, perhaps they can lead us to more information about the parents. Any advice at all would be appreciated. Regards, Marcia Andre --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC
Hi John, Rick listed that his FHC has films for Ribeirinha on Sao Miguel island (there's more than one Ribeirinha in the Azores). What site are you trying to get your mother-in-law's birth from? What year was she born? I think the Filiacao means who are her parents, but I'd have to see the site to be sure. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Caetano and Jacinto
Is there any relationship with the last name of Caetano and Jacinto? ie, one in the same? I have a relative who I show on paper as a Jacinto, yet was told she was a Caetano by a relative. Thank you, Robin Borba Besotes --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Caetano and Jacinto
Robin, No, they are two different names. However, since people use multiple surnames, she could have both in her name. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vila Franca do Campo visit
Marcia, If this woman was born pre-1892, you would have to go to the archive in Ponta Delgada and search the baptisms for Vila Franca - Sao Miguel Arcanjo, requesting the years 1882-1892. You will have to hunt for her looking at every baby born with her first name, checking to see if the parents are the right ones. However, a few of the books do have an index in the back, so I'd look back there first to see if an index exists. I'd continue back in time, collecting all the siblings until I go for a few years with no children. If the records state that all the babies were legitimate, I'd go to the marriage book and start look for the parents marriage, beginning with the day before the first born's birth. The marriages will be easier to search, as they will list the bride and groom in the margin or at the top (for that time period). I think SMA was filmed to about 1883, so I'd trace the records back to at least then. That way, when you get home, you can order the film and continue searching back in time. I'd go to the praca (town square) and find an old timer and ask him if he recognizes the photo. He may have you ask someone else. I've had people able to identify my relatives that way. Also, at the festa there will be many people to ask too, so that would be a good idea. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: [AZORES-Genealogy]Help with Translation/ another Ramos family
Hi Steven, Just for practice, start to read the dates on each baptism (as they are in chronological order). It takes time to get used to the dates being spelled out instead of using numbers (they use some numbers in the older records). You'll get used to the months that way too. Get the Portuguese Word list from Family Search: http://tinyurl.com/b2q9zx You'll notice the link at the top that will take you directly to numbers, dates, and time. #4 Antonio 1) On the twenty-five day of the month of May (that was in the fold and I don't have my reading glasses, so I just checked record # 5; remember, this top line is the baptism date) 2) of the year of one thousand eight hundred seventy three in this 3) church parish of Nossa Senhora das Milgres of Lagedo 4) council of Vila das Lajes diocese of Angra 5) I baptize solemnly an individual of the sex 6) masculine to whom I gave the name Antonio and that 7) he was born in this freguesia at five hours of the morning 8) on the same day, month and year son legitimate first 9) of the name of Jose Coelho Ramos worker and Puliceca (don't trust my spelling on that) 10) de Jesus occupation of the service of her house native received (married) 11) parishioners and living in this freguesia grandson pa- 12) ternal of Jose Coelho Ramos and Izabel Maria, mater- 13) nal of Francisco de Frietas and Roza de Sao Jose, for god- 14) father Antonio Maria Henriques single stu- 15) dent and Godmother Maria dos Anjos single of 16) whom have the proper papers blah blah blah (church stuff) Yep, less vinho this time! Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation/ another Ramos family
Another thing that is confusing when you start out...they write like this: Thequ ick brown fox ju mpedov er the lazy dog. They run words together and then put spaces where there should not be any space. They also have contractions that we don't (when was the last time you thought about contractions? When you were 10 years old?) LOL of the is da (female) or do (male) in this is nesta I think those are in the word guide. Those are just examples. There are more. digo is basically and oops. I think the literal translation is I meant to say. There's some in this record. Verbs (at least in the romance languages) put the pronoun and conjugated verb together. In English, we would say I baptized but in Portuguese it's all one word: baptiseu (spelling?) because the ending denotes that it's first person, past tense. # 5 Maria 1) On the twenty day of the month of June of the 2) year of one thousand eight hundred (800 is one word in this record) seventy and five in- 3) this church parish of Senhora dos Milagres 4) of Lagedo council of Vila das Lajes Dio- 5) cese of Angra. I baptized solemnly 6) an individual of the sex feminine to whom 7) I gave the name (the name is run together) of Maria, and that she was born in- 8) this freguesia at five hours of the afternoon of the day 9) nineteen (this is the BIRTH, the baptism was on the 1st line) of the same month and year daughter leg- 10) timate, second of the name, of Jose Coelho Ra- 11) mos and Pulciana de Jesus DIGO (I meant to say) laborer and Puli- 12) cena de Jesus occupation of the service of her house 13) natives received (married) parishioners and living 14) in this freguesia (that's all run together) granddaughter paternal of Jose Coelho Ra- 15) mos and Izabel Maria and maternal of Francisco 16) de Freitas Sego(?) (it's not Rego) and Roza de Sao Jose, for Godfather 17) Anto DIGO (I meant to say) Jose Maria Henriques single stu- 18) dent and Godmother Maria Jose Henriques single 19) who have the proper papers blah blah blah OK, this time the priest wasn't as lubed and he caught all his mistakes (digo!) Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC
It's the one he listed Ribeirinha in Ribeira Grande, Santissimo Salvador Parish. She was born in 1920 and her parents maybe 1885 or so. Here is a link to the site I was trying to use http://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/ Thanks John - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC Hi John, Rick listed that his FHC has films for Ribeirinha on Sao Miguel island (there's more than one Ribeirinha in the Azores). What site are you trying to get your mother-in-law's birth from? What year was she born? I think the Filiacao means who are her parents, but I'd have to see the site to be sure. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC
Hi John, I'm not familiar with that site, but I know there are others on this list that have used it, I believe. I couldn't make the fields come up, so I'm hoping someone else can guide you through this form. A 1920 baptism would most likely give her parents and grandparents. But the film ends at 1883 for your freguesia, so hopefully she was one of the last born kids and her parents are older and born before 1883. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation and identification
I think that is a type of store that sells everything for the home; food, hardware (I think) Maria Sousa --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Lexi Loo lexi.1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lexi Loo lexi.1...@yahoo.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation and identification To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:37 PM Hello, Could someone please translate Mercearia de Nossa Senhora de Fatima I tried to translate this on the Internet and came up with Lady of Fatimo would Mercearia of our This picture was taken in the early 1940's, somewhere on Terceira and its of my distant Sousa family? Lexi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village?
On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:00 AM, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Greetings Group, My Mom recently gave me this photo from Sao Jorge. The home is that of my Ggrandmother Francisca Rosa Lemos, born around 1869. I have no idea which village this is and hope that someone on the list might recognize the church in the background. I want to say Rosais because the setting looks similar and so does the church Nossa Senhora do Rosario). I haven't located any pictures to confirm that yet but will see if I can. Mary Bordi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village?
Thanks Mary for my first clue! I've looked through all the online records for my grandmother but I'll go and have another look in Rosais.for awhile in my search I was looking for Enos since that's the name she came into the states with..interesting to me that she left the Azores Rosa Francesca Lemos and became Frances Rose Enos once she arrived in New Bedford! Nancy From: geneal...@hununu.org To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village? Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:28:47 -0700 On Apr 10, 2009, at 10:00 AM, nancy jean baptiste wrote: Greetings Group, My Mom recently gave me this photo from Sao Jorge. The home is that of my Ggrandmother Francisca Rosa Lemos, born around 1869. I have no idea which village this is and hope that someone on the list might recognize the church in the background. I want to say Rosais because the setting looks similar and so does the church Nossa Senhora do Rosario). I haven't located any pictures to confirm that yet but will see if I can. Mary Bordi _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates1_042009 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC
Hello John, The films in the FHC for Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande only go to the year 1883. That was all they could film up to because of the 100 year rule (they were filmed in 1983-5). I have not tried the site so I am not familiar with it but in order to get your names to the records prior to 1883 you will have to request the record of birth or marriage as needed to get to names that could be looked up in the filmed records. When you do get the names let me know as I already have many on my data base. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Epping, New Hampshire, USA Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and Ponta Delgada, Sao Miguel, Acores for, Pimentel (Costa), Carvalho, Teixeira, Rocha -Original Message- From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:52 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC It's the one he listed Ribeirinha in Ribeira Grande, Santissimo Salvador Parish. She was born in 1920 and her parents maybe 1885 or so. Here is a link to the site I was trying to use http://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/ Thanks John - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC Hi John, Rick listed that his FHC has films for Ribeirinha on Sao Miguel island (there's more than one Ribeirinha in the Azores). What site are you trying to get your mother-in-law's birth from? What year was she born? I think the Filiacao means who are her parents, but I'd have to see the site to be sure. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC
Thanks for your help. I ended up using the names of the parents and it went through. John - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:49 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC Hi John, I'm not familiar with that site, but I know there are others on this list that have used it, I believe. I couldn't make the fields come up, so I'm hoping someone else can guide you through this form. A 1920 baptism would most likely give her parents and grandparents. But the film ends at 1883 for your freguesia, so hopefully she was one of the last born kids and her parents are older and born before 1883. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re : [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation and identification
Mercearia is a grocery store. --- En date de : Ven 10.4.09, Maria Sousa lelaso...@verizon.net a écrit : De: Maria Sousa lelaso...@verizon.net Objet: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with translation and identification À: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Vendredi 10 Avril 2009, 17h18 I think that is a type of store that sells everything for the home; food, hardware (I think) Maria Sousa --- On Thu, 4/9/09, Lexi Loo lexi.1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Lexi Loo lexi.1...@yahoo.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation and identification To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, April 9, 2009, 9:37 PM Hello, Could someone please translate Mercearia de Nossa Senhora de Fatima I tried to translate this on the Internet and came up with Lady of Fatimo would Mercearia of our This picture was taken in the early 1940's, somewhere on Terceira and its of my distant Sousa family? Lexi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC
John; If you use Google, you can get a translate icon on your toolbar and when you use it on this site, it translates the page and subsequent pages into English. As an aside to a discussion from sometime ago, this site also give you the requirements of becoming a Portuguese citizen. Sam in CA From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 5:52 AM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC It's the one he listed Ribeirinha in Ribeira Grande, Santissimo Salvador Parish. She was born in 1920 and her parents maybe 1885 or so. Here is a link to the site I was trying to use http://www.portaldocidadao.pt/PORTAL/pt/ Thanks John - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello mailto:gfsche...@gmail.com To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Films in Exeter NH FHC Hi John, Rick listed that his FHC has films for Ribeirinha on Sao Miguel island (there's more than one Ribeirinha in the Azores). What site are you trying to get your mother-in-law's birth from? What year was she born? I think the Filiacao means who are her parents, but I'd have to see the site to be sure. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada BR --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village?
Do you guys have any more pictures of Sao Jorges that you can share? These are great. Thanks, Dolores Coyle On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 2:58 PM, sarab...@aol.com wrote: *Dear Nancy, I believe it is in Rosais. I have a photo of it and when I was there in 2006, they told me the tower used to be on the other side but was destroyed in an earthquake. When they rebuilt, the tower was put on the side opposite of your photo. I may have an old photo of the old church that was taken from the same position in order to compare them. I'll look around and see if I can find it. Meanwhile, look at this as see what you think. Arline Silveira in Grover Beach, CA * My Mom recently gave me this photo from Sao Jorge. The home is that of my Ggrandmother Francisca Rosa Lemos, born around 1869. I have no idea which village this is and hope that someone on the list might recognize the church in the background. Thanks for any help, Nancy Jean Baptiste -- Save money by eating out! Find great dining coupons in your areahttp://www.when.com/search?st=restauranthas_gift_cert=1ncid=emlcntuswhen0001 . --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village?
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 4/10/09, sarab...@aol.com sarab...@aol.com wrote: From: sarab...@aol.com sarab...@aol.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village? To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 11:58 AM Dear Nancy, I believe it is in Rosais. I have a photo of it and when I was there in 2006, they told me the tower used to be on the other side but was destroyed in an earthquake. When they rebuilt, the tower was put on the side opposite of your photo. I may have an old photo of the old church that was taken from the same position in order to compare them. I'll look around and see if I can find it. Meanwhile, look at this as see what you think. Arline Silveira in Grover Beach, CA My Mom recently gave me this photo from Sao Jorge. The home is that of my Ggrandmother Francisca Rosa Lemos, born around 1869. I have no idea which village this is and hope that someone on the list might recognize the church in the background. Thanks for any help, Nancy Jean Baptiste Save money by eating out! Find great dining coupons in your area. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village?
hello iap, i do also tink that its Rosais, and that its the church of Rosais, like everebody is saying. Its a great picture. Also the picture f rosais of 1897 is wondurfull! where did you get it? 2009/4/10 celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com: Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 4/10/09, sarab...@aol.com sarab...@aol.com wrote: From: sarab...@aol.com sarab...@aol.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village? To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 11:58 AM Dear Nancy, I believe it is in Rosais. I have a photo of it and when I was there in 2006, they told me the tower used to be on the other side but was destroyed in an earthquake. When they rebuilt, the tower was put on the side opposite of your photo. I may have an old photo of the old church that was taken from the same position in order to compare them. I'll look around and see if I can find it. Meanwhile, look at this as see what you think. Arline Silveira in Grover Beach, CA My Mom recently gave me this photo from Sao Jorge. The home is that of my Ggrandmother Francisca Rosa Lemos, born around 1869. I have no idea which village this is and hope that someone on the list might recognize the church in the background. Thanks for any help, Nancy Jean Baptiste Save money by eating out! Find great dining coupons in your area. -- Iolanda Bettencourt Ávila --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help with Translation/ another Ramos family
Robyn, Yes, just like you said. Cheri --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re : [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira Archives Online
Hi Cherri, Do you, please, know if there is any site for Azores passports online? Thank you. Natalia. --- En date de : Sam 11.4.09, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com a écrit : De: Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com Objet: [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira Archives Online À: Azores Genealogy Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Samedi 11 Avril 2009, 0h34 Someone asked about Madeira last week. Since this list focuses on the Azores, I don't have much for Madeira. George had the URL below for them since he's a researcher for hire and knows all this stuff. http://www.arquivo-madeira.org/homepage.php They are the Archive Regional of Madeira (ARM). In the upper right, they have a translation to English. They too are a work in progress. They have baptisms, marriage, and the passports online. It looks like you have to search by modern Portuguese spelling (Melo, not Mello) and probably have to use the diacritics (accented letters). -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Re : [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira Archives Online
Hi Listers I have copies of Angra Passports Aug 1836 thru Dec 1839 only. Rosemarie - Original Message - From: Cheri Mello To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 4:06 PM Subject: Re: Re : [AZORES-Genealogy] Madeira Archives Online Natalia, The Center for Knowledge of the Azores (Centro de Conhecimento dos Acores) or CCA has SOME of them online here: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/ Only the port of Ponta Delgada is online (1875-1939 with gaps). The port of Angra used to be online when they had the old URL. Rosemarie Capodicci copied them and will do a look up for you. I don't know how many she copied or what years they cover (she may have said at one time). She's on this list, but you can also email her direct at rcapodc at redshift dot com The port of Horta has never been online. The CCA site is a work in progress. It will take quite awhile for them to get everything online. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Last Names
Hello All, I have done a fair amount of my family tree, and I notice that from generation to generation some were given the same last name while others were not. I am assuming that it was not always common practice to give the children the same last name as the father, but were would they get the other name from? Jessica _ Reinvent how you stay in touch with the new Windows Live Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9650731 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Last Names
Jessica, They got the names from anyone they wantedmother, father, grandmother, grandfather, saint, uncle, aunt. Best not to try and figure this one out. Elaine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village?
When Arline and I were in Rosais in 2006, talking to anyone who would stop to talk, we met a man with the surname of Sequeira. Since that is my son-in-law's paternal great-grandfather's name, we had a conversation and he said he had an old picture of the church. We took the picture to Velas, had a copy made, and returned the original to him. During our conversation, he told us about the church being rebuilt with the steeple put on the other side. I don't remember what year that took place, maybe Arline does. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 4/10/09, yolanda yolandabettenco...@gmail.com wrote: From: yolanda yolandabettenco...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village? To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 3:42 PM hello iap, i do also tink that its Rosais, and that its the church of Rosais, like everebody is saying. Its a great picture. Also the picture f rosais of 1897 is wondurfull! where did you get it? 2009/4/10 celeste perry ccgran...@yahoo.com: Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 4/10/09, sarab...@aol.com sarab...@aol.com wrote: From: sarab...@aol.com sarab...@aol.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Does anyone know this village? To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 11:58 AM Dear Nancy, I believe it is in Rosais. I have a photo of it and when I was there in 2006, they told me the tower used to be on the other side but was destroyed in an earthquake. When they rebuilt, the tower was put on the side opposite of your photo. I may have an old photo of the old church that was taken from the same position in order to compare them. I'll look around and see if I can find it. Meanwhile, look at this as see what you think. Arline Silveira in Grover Beach, CA My Mom recently gave me this photo from Sao Jorge. The home is that of my Ggrandmother Francisca Rosa Lemos, born around 1869. I have no idea which village this is and hope that someone on the list might recognize the church in the background. Thanks for any help, Nancy Jean Baptiste Save money by eating out! Find great dining coupons in your area. -- Iolanda Bettencourt Ávila --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Last Names
Jessica, As Elaine said, the rule is that there is no rule! Pretty frustrating. However, there are some vague generalities. I did a mini-survey a few years ago. I asked people to look up their ancestors in a specific time period and to tell me which line their surname came from. A majority did come from either the father's or the mother's line with any of the grandparents coming in second. Although no one responded with a surname from a godparent, I am told this also happens. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, R. das Tainhas, Achada --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Last Names
My guess is that sometimes the family was so poor, they would use the godparent's name if the godparent owned a tree in someone else's plot of land. I think if I were in the same situation I would want to give my child the best chance to own that tree some time in the future. Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --- On Fri, 4/10/09, E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com wrote: From: E Sharp bellema...@gmail.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Last Names To: Azores@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, April 10, 2009, 4:41 PM Jessica, They got the names from anyone they wantedmother, father, grandmother, grandfather, saint, uncle, aunt. Best not to try and figure this one out. Elaine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[AZORES-Genealogy] Rosais, Sao Jorge
I have some pictures from my 2006 trip to Sao Jorge. Because I like to have a photograph of the church, baptismal font and altars where my ancestors were baptized, married, etc. I have some from Rosais. A few years ago, I took a picture of a font thinking it was the font where the ancestor had been baptized. When I returned to the same church to talk to the priest, I happened to mention that the font looked newer than those I had seen in other churches. He told me is had been replaced after some problem occurred. I asked where the old font was and was told it was attached to the wall in the back room and used for the priests to wash his hands. I now have a picture of the old font where my husband's ancestor was baptized. Since that, I always ask about the age of the fonts. In Rosais, the old font (the largest I have seen so far) is in a park and used as a bird bath. I have a picture of that font too. I don't know how long it will take me to scan the pictures; however, contact me off list and I will send you the scans as soon as I can. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
