[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel (b. 1888)

[bbffrrpp]

Hi Jesse,

I just went to a map of Sao Miguel and was reminded that Nordeste is
almost on the other end of the island from Ponta Delgada  (Sao
Roque).So, your Joao PACHECO and my husband's Joao PACHECO were
probably not directly related.However, I have been curious whether
families moved from one part of the island to another, and was it
fairly easy to do that by boat?

http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rlz=1T4HPIA_enUS308US308&q=%22Azores+map+Sao+Miguel%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&split=0&gl=us&ei=qGE3SpL1Goi_twex-uzfDA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1


Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA)


(Antonio PACHECO came to MA / US ~1905.   Unfortunately, there seems
to have been a dozen of them coming to the US around the same time.)




On Jun 15, 4:14 pm, Jesse  wrote:
> Hi group. Of my 8 Portuguese Great-Great grandparents, 7 come from
> Lagoa.
>
> Joao Pacheco is the remaining one and I was wondering if anyone
> possibly knew this family or had any more information. He was born 9
> Mar 1888 to Jose Pacheco and Rosalina Moniz in Nordeste, Sm. He came
> to America in 1902 and married Maria de Andrade in 1906. They had 8
> children.
>
> I know this is vague but I have no other way to get information. My
> grandfather has never had contact with his father's family. If anyone
> knows how I can find the village possibly that would also help. I just
> don't know where to start with this branch; I also haven't been able
> to find any immigration information.
>
> Jesse (iggy1...@aol.com)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Why our Portuguese ancestors moved so often & used

[LHarrah333]

I've come to the realization that It is extremely difficult tracing family  
(duh!).  My family came from Capelo, Faial.  My dad came from a family  of 
11.  On entering the US, half came with the name Rose (da Rosa).   The other 
half came with the name of da Silva or just Silva.  One uncle in  RI 
changed his last name to Silvia.  My paternal grandfather's name was  actually 
Jose Silveira as I understand it.My paternal grandmother's maiden  name was 
Maria Brum but she was mostly known as Maria de Jesus.  She was  married to 
Jose Silveira my gfather).  All 11 children had the middle name  of Correia (I 
don't know where that came from; I'm thinking  that might  have been an 
important descendant.  One aunt married a first cousin who's  name was 
Francisco 
Brum.  My uncle Manuel married a first cousin,  Theresa.  This goes on and 
on.
 
On my mother's side, her maiden name was Andrade and her middle name  was 
Cunha.  So where did the Cunha come from?  A couple of years ago I  had a 
cousin in Faial attempt to get records in Horta on my mother's  family.  Papers 
sent to me listed about 5 Filomena Andrade's  from Capelo all around the 
same time as my mother's  existence.   I haven't pursued tracing family since 
then and I  don't know if I will.  Maybe on my next trip to Faial. Good 
luck to all.  I enjoy reading all the e-mails and I'm astonished as to  how 
many of you have ancestors in common.  Interesting.   Maybe before I get too 
senile I'll work at it.  It's just too overwhelming  right now.
 
Laura from California
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 6/12/2009 4:51:36 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
morinmi1...@gmail.com writes:


Hello group,

I hope someone has the answer to these  questions. Maybe someone in
their family explained why.

I've been  having a rough time tracing my family. Slowly but surely I
am finding new  information. and can credit that success to being able
to cross reference  information found at the UMass Dartmouth Paper. One
of my biggest problems  has been the frequency in which they moved and
changed their names. I don't  know if others have experienced that or
not or maybe it was just most of my  family on the run. LOL  A recent
example is a relative named Arsenio  Pamplona Corte Real Camara. I've
found him using the names Harrison Cambra,  Harrison Camara, the above
name, Arsenio Camara/Cambra and Frank  Perry/Pereira. Absolutely
unbelievable!!! You'd think they were living in  this day & age and
were afraid of identify theft.

Curiosity is  my main reason for the questions but am I to expect this
with most of my  Portuguese ancestors? I've definitely found it to be
the case with the  moving part but the name changes too???

Thank you for your  time.

Regards,
Michelle



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel (b. 1888)

[bbffrrpp]

Hi Jesse,

I can just offer an FYI.   My (now) husband's great-grandparents were
Joao PACHECO and Jacintha COSTA from the village of Sao Roque on Sao
Miguel.They had a son, Antonio PACHECO, b~1885 there.
Unfortunately,  I don't know anything else about the family.

I've posted about this family before, so there is information in the
archives of this Group, and in genealogy Lists, etc.

Betty(near Lowell, MA, USA)




On Jun 15, 4:14 pm, Jesse  wrote:
> Hi group. Of my 8 Portuguese Great-Great grandparents, 7 come from
> Lagoa.
>
> Joao Pacheco is the remaining one and I was wondering if anyone
> possibly knew this family or had any more information. He was born 9
> Mar 1888 to Jose Pacheco and Rosalina Moniz in Nordeste, Sm. He came
> to America in 1902 and married Maria de Andrade in 1906. They had 8
> children.
>
> I know this is vague but I have no other way to get information. My
> grandfather has never had contact with his father's family. If anyone
> knows how I can find the village possibly that would also help. I just
> don't know where to start with this branch; I also haven't been able
> to find any immigration information.
>
> Jesse (iggy1...@aol.com)

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Why our Portuguese ancestors moved so often & used

[gs311]

I would be interested in more information about Jose Machado Soares. My 
grandfather's name was Manuel Machado Soares (1874-1936) and he opened a bar & 
Grill in downtown Oakland and he called it Marshall's. He came from Villa das 
Lajes do Pico. I don't know if he had brothers or not and he was the 
illegitimate son of Ana Francisca Perpetua Silva (1835-1923)
Gordon Soares
San Ramon, Ca

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My grandfather changed his name, too.  He was born Jose Machado 

Soares.  Later, as an adult in the US, he changed his name to Joseph M. 

Sawyer.  He was naturalized as Sawyer, married my grandmother under the 

name of Sawyer.  Their first few children were born under the name of 

Sawyer.  Then he decided to change his name to Joseph Marshall.  The 

last few children were born under Marshall, including my father.  However, 

whenever he returned to the islands he went back to using his original 

birth name of Jose Machado Soares.



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891

[Kevin Gartner]

Hello,

My great-grandfather was apparently Manuel P. Serpa.  He was born in about 1873 
and emigrated from the Azores in about 1891.  He ended up in New Bedford, 
Massachusetts.  At least he lived there by 1930.  His wife was "Mary", at least 
that was how she was described in 1930, and he had two sons, Joseph and Manuel 
A. Serpa.  The latter was my grandfather, and a good guy he was, too.

Anyone know of either Manual P. or his wife, Mary?

Kevin Gartner
(Corvallis, Oregon, but born in New Bedford)


  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Alien Registration files to be relocated in Kansas City

[Cheri Mello]

If you are unfamiliar with Alien Registration, read about it on the Azores
Genweb:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo_Part_1e.html#alien

Dick Eastman wrote about Alien Registration today: http://tinyurl.com/l7wlje

Be sure to read the link from Dick's blog to the Kansas City Star.  Sounds
like the FOIA form G-639 will no longer be required.  There currently is no
index and it sounds like you have to search there yourself (unless you know
a researcher in that area).  Note the 100 year rule (it's 2009 so the
person's DOB needs to be 1909 or earlier) and new ones will be released in
batches every 5 years (just like the Azores).

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891

[Cheri Mello]

Kevin,

If you think they married in New Bedford, you need to check St. John the
Baptist church for their marriage.  Ask if they will photocopy the entry out
of the book and if not, ask if they will type up everything verbatim (even
if it's in Latin) for you.  There's a period of time where they wrote down
the freguesia (village) from where the newlywed came.  If they mail you the
paper certificate, it just says the bride married the groom on this date by
the priest with X & Y as witnesses.  If it's not at St. John's try Mt.
Carmel (or is it Our Lady of Carmel?)

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Azorean history in California

[Marek Delacroix]

I thought some may find this history interesting.

http://wwwlibrary.csustan.edu/bsantos/calif.html#tab6


  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Why our Portuguese ancestors moved so often & used

[Cheri Mello]

I had one ancestor who suddenly started using Barboza as a compounded
surname.  After 2 more generations of research, I found it was his maternal
grandmother's name.  It takes a lot of digging sometimes.

-- 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel (b. 1888)

[IGGY1110]

Sorry Cheri; I do know he came from Nordeste. It was the Parish I was 
referring to as what I was trying to find out. I did look through that 
resource at one point; I went through all of them but could not find my 
Joao. It's very possible I skimmed over him. When I have more time I'll 
try looking again.

Cheri Mello wrote:
> Jesse,
>
> I'm confused.  Your subject line says your ancestor is from Nordeste 
> on Sao Miguel.  In your post, you ask how to find his 
> village/freguesia.  Do you know if he came from Nordeste or not?
>
> If you know he immigrated in 1902, the emigration out of the Azores 
> for Sao Miguel only is online:
> http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/ig/passaportes/default.aspx?divisao=3
> Use Internet Explorer.  1902 is in 2 different files, so you'll have 
> to search both for a Joao Pacheco whose parents are Jose Pacheco & 
> Rosalina.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> >



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891

[Michelle]

Hello Kevin,

I found a Manual A. Serpa born in New Bedford 5/5/1908 on the New England 
Historical Society website. His parents are Manuel P. Serpa & Maria 
Consalation. The father was a laborer originally from Pico, Azores and the 
mother was from Terceira, Azores. It's Volume 574, Page 329. Give me a few 
minutes and I'll try to find Joseph's birth record & their marriage record as 
well.

Regards,
Michelle
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891


  Hello,


  My great-grandfather was apparently Manuel P. Serpa.  He was born in about 
1873 and emigrated from the Azores in about 1891.  He ended up in New Bedford, 
Massachusetts.  At least he lived there by 1930.  His wife was "Mary", at least 
that was how she was described in 1930, and he had two sons, Joseph and Manuel 
A. Serpa.  The latter was my grandfather, and a good guy he was, too.


  Anyone know of either Manual P. or his wife, Mary?


  Kevin Gartner
  (Corvallis, Oregon, but born in New Bedford)


  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao Pacheco from Nordeste, Sao Miguel (b. 1888)

[Cheri Mello]

Iggy,

They are listed on the Azores Genweb:
http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/maps.html
Click on the island (in your case, Sao Miguel) and scroll down to N for
Nordeste.  You will see only 1 church listed for Nordeste, called Sao
Jorge.  The third column lists the years that the microfilm covers (1563 -
1884).

The 1902 immigration may be his best guess.  You'll also have to search 1901
and then 1903 and possibly keep expanding the the years, or try other
American sources to figure out the immigration date.  The 1900, 1910, 1920,
and 1930 censuses all ask for the immigration year (a sample of what is
asked on each U.S. Federal Census can be downloaded from Ancestry.com's
Learning Center for FREE: http://www.ancestry.com/trees/charts/census.aspx)

For other ideas on tracing your immigrant, check out the Azores Genweb here:

http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html


Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in Kansas City

[TTCostaDC]

Where are the A-files held, right now?
 
Thank you.
 
-Trevor Costa
 
 
In a message dated 6/16/2009 1:51:44 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
gfsche...@gmail.com writes:

If you  are unfamiliar with Alien Registration, read about it on the Azores 
Genweb: 
_http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo_Part_1e.html#alien_ 
(http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo_Part_1e.html#alien) 

Dick  Eastman wrote about Alien Registration today: 
_http://tinyurl.com/l7wlje_ (http://tinyurl.com/l7wlje) 

Be sure  to read the link from Dick's blog to the Kansas City Star.  Sounds 
like  the FOIA form G-639 will no longer be required.  There currently is 
no  index and it sounds like you have to search there yourself (unless you 
know a  researcher in that area).  Note the 100 year rule (it's 2009 so the  
person's DOB needs to be 1909 or earlier) and new ones will be released in  
batches every 5 years (just like the Azores).

-- 
Cheri  Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca,  Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
Tainhas,  Achada




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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in Kansas City

[Cheri Mello]

Trevor,

They were in Washington, DC.  But, when I accessed the FOIA G-639 form, it
says to write to Lee's Summit in MO.
http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-639.pdf  (and that form says it expires
Nov, 2008!)

Funny in one place it says that the G-639 isn't needed and on the G-639 they
have you do it.  Maybe by mail you need the G-639 otherwise, you can search
for them in person there (once it's all set up).  The KC Star says the
formal signing ceremony was "earlier this month."  Maybe the records are in
transit now.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Obituaries/Lagoa/Sao Miguel

[MaryAnn]

Hi All,

I just discovered that the obituaries for Lago, Sao Miguel are on line
at Centro Conhecimento dos Acores!!

It's the only archive available for Sao Miguel right now but it's very
exciting!!

Mary Ann
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in Kansas City

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Cheri & Trevor

They are all held in Chicago now. Go to the tiny url:  http://tinyurl.com6gp6gt 
and it will take you to the page with all of the info; prices for searches, 
addresses to write to etc. 

The address is:

USCIS Genealogy Program
P. O. Box 805925
Chicago IL 60680-4120


Rosemarie 

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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in 
Kansas City


  Trevor,

  They were in Washington, DC.  But, when I accessed the FOIA G-639 form, it 
says to write to Lee's Summit in MO.
  http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-639.pdf  (and that form says it expires 
Nov, 2008!)

  Funny in one place it says that the G-639 isn't needed and on the G-639 they 
have you do it.  Maybe by mail you need the G-639 otherwise, you can search for 
them in person there (once it's all set up).  The KC Star says the formal 
signing ceremony was "earlier this month."  Maybe the records are in transit 
now.

  Cheri Mello
  Listowner, Azores-Gen
  Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, 
Achada

  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obituaries/Lagoa/Sao Miguel

[IGGY1110]

This is only for Rosario, correct? Or is there a database for Santa Cruz 
as well?

MaryAnn wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I just discovered that the obituaries for Lago, Sao Miguel are on line
> at Centro Conhecimento dos Acores!!
>
> It's the only archive available for Sao Miguel right now but it's very
> exciting!!
>
> Mary Ann
> >   



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in Kansas City

[Cheri Mello]

HI Rosemarie,

That tinyURL didn't work.

I think I'd wait until the records were settled in MO.  Just in case they
lost my request in the move.

Cheri

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci
wrote:

>  Cheri & Trevor
>
> They are all held in Chicago now. Go to the tiny url:
> http://tinyurl.com6gp6gt and it will take you to the page with all of the
> info; prices for searches, addresses to write to etc.
>
> The address is:
>
> USCIS Genealogy Program
> P. O. Box 805925
> Chicago IL 60680-4120
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
> - Original Message -
>  *From:* Cheri Mello 
> *To:* Azores@googlegroups.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:57 PM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated
> in Kansas City
>
> Trevor,
>
> They were in Washington, DC.  But, when I accessed the FOIA G-639 form, it
> says to write to Lee's Summit in MO.
> http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-639.pdf  (and that form says it expires
> Nov, 2008!)
>
> Funny in one place it says that the G-639 isn't needed and on the G-639
> they have you do it.  Maybe by mail you need the G-639 otherwise, you can
> search for them in person there (once it's all set up).  The KC Star says
> the formal signing ceremony was "earlier this month."  Maybe the records are
> in transit now.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
> Achada
> >
>


-- 
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Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Obituaries/Lagoa/Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Only Rosario.  They started posting it a week or maybe 10 days ago.

Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching Agua de Pau for Correia, Pacheco, TAvares,

[CaraBela]

You mentioned you found a grave in New Bedford with the name Tavares on it. 
 My family has a Tavares family plot in St. John's Cemetery in New Bedford. 
It is  a long flat marker that just says "Tavares." There are quite a few 
family  members buried under there. My great, great grandparents Guilherme 
(William)  Tavares & Augusta Botelho Neves Tavares are there. Augusta's 
mother,  Jacintha Botelho da Silva is also there.  My great grandparents are 
there,  Oscar Horta Pacheco & Maria (Mary) Joanna Tavares Pacheco. Mathilda 
Tavares  & her 4 children are all there also. Virginio Perriera (Gene Perry) is 
there  also. He was my great-aunt's second husband. Edna Pacheco Perry & her  
sister, my grandmother Bertha Pacheco Rose will be buried there also when 
they  die. 
 
A lot of people are there & just the name Tavares. It took a very long  
time to get the names of all who are buried there. My great-aunt, Edna went  
there years ago & got into an argument with the lady at the office for the  
cemetery. Edna still pays for the family plot & she wanted to know who all  
was in there because she wanted to know who she was going to be buried with  
someday. They lady wasn't very nice & my sweet little Aunt finally wore her  
down & got her to make a copy of the one card that had all the information.  
We were surprised so many were there.
 
Our Tavares line only said they were from Ponta Delgada. That is all they  
would say. I did find on a passenger list that had my great, great 
grandmother  & her two daughters, that the girls were listed as being born in 
Relva & 
 it said "Matriz" for my gg grandmother's birthplace. I have been told that 
 "Matriz" means Mother Church. I haven't looked into this line any further. 
I  have been working on another line in Graciosa for quite a while.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891

[Michelle]

Hello Kevin,

I don't know if you have a membership with Ancestry or with New England 
Historical Society but this is what I found. If you already have this 
information I apologize for the duplication but if you don't...enjoy and best 
of luck in your search. I hope some of it helps.

Jose P. Serpa was born 6/30/1904 in New Bedford. Parents shown as Manuel P. 
Serpa & Maria Conceicao. Manuel was a Mill Operative at the time and again he 
was born in Pico, AZ and she was born in Terceira, AZ. Vol: 542 ; Page: 305

Their marriage record: Married 8/8/1903...NEHGS shows his name as Manoel 
Pereira Serpa & her's as Maria da Consolacao. He was 31 and she was 26 years 
old...first marriage for both. Again, he was born Pico and she was born 
Terceira. His parents names were Jose Pereira Serpa & Maria Isabel Victorina. 
Her parents names were Manoel Antonio & Maria do Rosario. Vol 536, Page 287

In 1908, 1909, 1913, 1917 Manuel, Maria & family were living at 252 Hillman and 
using the name Manuel P. Serpa according to the directories.

Their 1920 Census says they are living at 252 Hillman Street. Mary's abt is 
1878. Immigration for him 1891 for her 1895.

In the 1930 Census they are still living at 252 Hillman Street. The boys are 
not shown living with them. The main page on Ancestry messed up on the front 
page stating they were from Ireland. It was actually the people above them in 
the census that were from Ireland. It states they owned the home. This record 
shows him immigrating in 1894 & her in 1895.

I did find a ship manifest for June 22, 1896 for a Maria Conceicao coming from 
Terceira going to Taunton, MA but it's one of those records that doesn't have a 
lot of information. It has her age at 16 years old. I also found a death record 
for a Mary Serpa that was born July 4, 1880 and died October 17, 1970 in 
Taunton, MA.

In 1932 & 1937 there is a Manuel A. Serpa, Milkman (Jeanne C. Briene) living at 
319 Park. I do not see a Joseph listed but the 1932 directory does say that 
Manuel P. Serpa died January 29, 1932 and that Mary C was still living at 252 
Hillman. She was also still at this address in from 1937-1955 (no other 
directories to reference after that). In 1943-1955 Manuel A & his wife are now 
shown living at 105 Newton.

In the UMASS Dartmouth paper I found an article about Manuel A & Jeanne 
(Briene) Serpa having a boy that was born April 8, 1935. In his 1930 Census it 
looks like he and Jeanne were married in early 1930...she was born in Canada. 
It the "C" stands for Choquette then I also found other census records for her 
prior to her marrying Manuel but don't know for sure without more information.

In 1940 there are several ads in the Port Paper in September that appear that 
he was supporting a George A. Dean for County Commissioner but they show his 
name as Manuel A. Serra...his address though matches the directories & 1930 
Census record for Manuel A. Serpa.

Well, hope some of it helps and matches some of what you may already know.

Regards,
Michelle
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kevin Gartner 
  To: Azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:48 PM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891


  Hello,


  My great-grandfather was apparently Manuel P. Serpa.  He was born in about 
1873 and emigrated from the Azores in about 1891.  He ended up in New Bedford, 
Massachusetts.  At least he lived there by 1930.  His wife was "Mary", at least 
that was how she was described in 1930, and he had two sons, Joseph and Manuel 
A. Serpa.  The latter was my grandfather, and a good guy he was, too.


  Anyone know of either Manual P. or his wife, Mary?


  Kevin Gartner
  (Corvallis, Oregon, but born in New Bedford)


  

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Searching Agua de Pau for Correia, Pacheco, TAvares,

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Don,

Wait for the paperwork to come.

You may have too many family members named Blah Blah Correia, so one of them
may have chosen Tavares to honor his ___ ancestor.  I had that happen once.

Cheri
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891

[Cheri Mello]

Kevin,

Based on Michelle's work, you NEED the marriage from New Bedford - from the
church.  1903 lists the freguesia.

Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in Kansas City

[IGGY1110]

Quick look at the url shows the / is missing:

http://tinyurl.com/6gp6gt/

which leads to

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d21f3711ca5ca110VgnVCM104718190aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d21f3711ca5ca110VgnVCM104718190aRCRD

Cheri Mello wrote:
> HI Rosemarie,
>
> That tinyURL didn't work.
>
> I think I'd wait until the records were settled in MO.  Just in case 
> they lost my request in the move.
>
> Cheri
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
> mailto:rcap...@redshift.com>> wrote:
>
> Cheri & Trevor
>  
> They are all held in Chicago now. Go to the tiny url: 
> http://tinyurl.com6gp6gt and it will take you to the page with all
> of the info; prices for searches, addresses to write to etc.
>  
> The address is:
>  
> USCIS Genealogy Program
> P. O. Box 805925
> Chicago IL 60680-4120
>  
>  
> Rosemarie
>  
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Cheri Mello 
> *To:* Azores@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:57 PM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to
> be relocated in Kansas City
>
> Trevor,
>
> They were in Washington, DC.  But, when I accessed the FOIA
> G-639 form, it says to write to Lee's Summit in MO.
> http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-639.pdf  (and that form says
> it expires Nov, 2008!)
>
> Funny in one place it says that the G-639 isn't needed and on
> the G-639 they have you do it.  Maybe by mail you need the
> G-639 otherwise, you can search for them in person there (once
> it's all set up).  The KC Star says the formal signing
> ceremony was "earlier this month."  Maybe the records are in
> transit now.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira
> das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das 
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> >



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in Kansas City

[Cheri Mello]

Thanks, Iggy.  Good eye.
Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Andrade/de Couto - Ribeiro/Pacheco

[Terri]

I would love for this to be a connection!  The names i have are a bit
different than what you say
but i was writing things down from what my aunts and uncles could
remember.  My great great grandfather
was Manuel Sousa Couto who was married to Ana do Jesus Couto (i don't
know how they would have the same last names..) One of their daughters
would have been Maria de Conceicao de Couto (my great grandmother).
The only other info i have of hers is that she was born around the
1880's and she had sisters...Maria de LuzFrancisca...Antonia de
Jesus...and  Bernaldina...

On Jun 11, 3:15 pm, "Linda Norton"  wrote:
> My mother's paternal side was de Andrade de Almeida Rodriques and I know
> that my mother always said that her mother was de Andrade. Assuming like
> most women over there they carried their mother's or grandmother's mother's
> name and not their fathers.
>
> My ggrandfather who I found was a Rodrigues but always thought de Andrade
> came from Sao Roque, Sao Miguel. They must have moved because his daughter
> my grandmother has listed on a certificate that she was from Arrifes, Sao
> Miguel. I don't know where they could have originated from.
>
> On the other end, my aunt, my father's brother's wife is Natalia de Couto
> Pacheco Furtado. She came here from Vila Franca, Sao Miguel. She told me her
>
> mother de Couto was already in MA, but moved back to Vila Franca when she
> was young and married a Pacheco. They both then moved to Cambridge, MA
> around 1950.
>
> She said that Manuel de Couto her grandfather was married to Anna Cabral.
>
> Manuel de Couto had a sister Maria Merces, Maria do Carmo and Ernestina
> ereira. I'll find out if there is a Maria Conceicao.
>
> Her Manuel Pacheco was married to Maria de Rosario Ribeiro, brother Antonio
> ibeiro, Gloria Ribeiro and Anna Ribeiro.
>
> So there could be a connection there.
> Linda (Borges) Furtado Norton
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
>
> Terri
> Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 9:58 PM
> To: Azores Genealogy
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: digging into the past
>
> Thanks again for responding so quickly.  I guess i do have more to
> research with family regarding approximate
> birth and death dates.  All i have right now is that my great
> grandfathers name was Jose Pimentel Andrade and he was from Agua
> d'Alto...died around the age of 60.  His wife was Maria de Conceicao
> Couto...born approximately 1880 i believe also from the same town.
> She had 3 children one of which was my grandfather Manuel Pimentel
> Andrade ..born April 6 1902 in Agua d'Alto.  Do you think going to the
> towns church..i would be able to get more info on my great grandfather
> with just his name? Or maybe to the villages City Hall in Vila Franca?
>
> On Jun 4, 11:10 pm, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> > Hi Terry,
>
> > To find out where in Calif, you have to start with the genealogist's BIG
> 3:
> > Name, date, and place.  Without them, it's pretty hard to help you.  If
> you
> > are 20, and your great-grandfather was born probably c. 1900 and if he
> > immigrated c. 1950, you're going to have a hard time.  If you are around
> 70
> > years old, your greats would be b. c. mid-1800s probably, it would be
> easier
> > to help you (unless they migrated in the 1890s gap with the Sao Miguel
> > records).  So stating that he's your great-grandfather is not helping us
> > help you.  You need to state his name, the dates and places you have on
> him,
> > and what research you have done (or is it the interviews with your aunts).
>
> > Check out this link and do part 1 too, since it seems like you've only
> done
> > interviews so far.  You need to start with the last thing he did, which
> was
> > his death and collect all death info about him (death certificate,
> > obiturary, etc).
>
> >http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/HowTo.html
>
> > Cheri Mello
> > Listowner, Azores-Gen
> > Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas,
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891

[Lorraine Thomas]

Hi Michele,

I read your response to Kevin and I hoped you could help me too.  My 
grandfather resided in New Bedford from 1900 to 1915.  His name was Manuel Rose 
Marshall or Marcial.  He was born in the Azores 7-25-1877.  My grandmother name 
was Mary Freitas born 3-25-1883.  I would appreciate it if you could lookup 
their names in the New England Historial Society Website.  Any information 
would be appreciated.

Lorraine Thomas
  - Original Message - 
  From: Michelle 
  To: Azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 11:24 AM
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 
1891


  Hello Kevin,

  I found a Manual A. Serpa born in New Bedford 5/5/1908 on the New England 
Historical Society website. His parents are Manuel P. Serpa & Maria 
Consalation. The father was a laborer originally from Pico, Azores and the 
mother was from Terceira, Azores. It's Volume 574, Page 329. Give me a few 
minutes and I'll try to find Joseph's birth record & their marriage record as 
well.

  Regards,
  Michelle
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Gartner 
To: Azores@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 7:48 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891


Hello,


My great-grandfather was apparently Manuel P. Serpa.  He was born in about 
1873 and emigrated from the Azores in about 1891.  He ended up in New Bedford, 
Massachusetts.  At least he lived there by 1930.  His wife was "Mary", at least 
that was how she was described in 1930, and he had two sons, Joseph and Manuel 
A. Serpa.  The latter was my grandfather, and a good guy he was, too.


Anyone know of either Manual P. or his wife, Mary?


Kevin Gartner
(Corvallis, Oregon, but born in New Bedford)



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel P Serpa emigrates from Pico? around 1891

[Kevin Gartner]

To Michelle and Cheri,

I am stunned and pleased by the research and advice I got (and fast!)
to my inquiry about my great-grandfather.  You have added a whole
generation to my knowledge, and done so with lots of detail.
Moreover, I know have leads on where to go from there.

By the way, I am a partner in developing and marketing a software
product for genealogy for the Macintosh (the newly released GEDitCOM
II).  Though you have helped me with my personal tree, your research
and ideas also help me think of better ways to develop software and
data tools to help others.

Thanks again,
Kevin



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Jose Francisco Brejo

[Marek Delacroix]

Group,
I have been searching for over a year to get info on my great, great 
grandfather  Joseph Francis Brio (the anglicized version).  I believe his name 
is actually Jose Francisco Brejo...  Does anyone connect with the name Brejo 
preferably from Flores...I would appreciate any help.

Thanks 


  
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in Kansas City

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Iggy thanks for catching that!  Rosemarie


- Original Message - 
From: "IGGY1110" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 4:32 PM
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to be relocated in 
Kansas City



Quick look at the url shows the / is missing:

http://tinyurl.com/6gp6gt/

which leads to

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=d21f3711ca5ca110VgnVCM104718190aRCRD&vgnextchannel=d21f3711ca5ca110VgnVCM104718190aRCRD

Cheri Mello wrote:
> HI Rosemarie,
>
> That tinyURL didn't work.
>
> I think I'd wait until the records were settled in MO.  Just in case
> they lost my request in the move.
>
> Cheri
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 3:23 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci
> mailto:rcap...@redshift.com>> wrote:
>
> Cheri & Trevor
>
> They are all held in Chicago now. Go to the tiny url:
> http://tinyurl.com6gp6gt and it will take you to the page with all
> of the info; prices for searches, addresses to write to etc.
>
> The address is:
>
> USCIS Genealogy Program
> P. O. Box 805925
> Chicago IL 60680-4120
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Cheri Mello 
> *To:* Azores@googlegroups.com 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 16, 2009 1:57 PM
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Alien Registration files to
> be relocated in Kansas City
>
> Trevor,
>
> They were in Washington, DC.  But, when I accessed the FOIA
> G-639 form, it says to write to Lee's Summit in MO.
> http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/g-639.pdf  (and that form says
> it expires Nov, 2008!)
>
> Funny in one place it says that the G-639 isn't needed and on
> the G-639 they have you do it.  Maybe by mail you need the
> G-639 otherwise, you can search for them in person there (once
> it's all set up).  The KC Star says the formal signing
> ceremony was "earlier this month."  Maybe the records are in
> transit now.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira
> das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> >








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