Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Lopes da Fonseca

[celeste perry]

Chris, I have this descendant of Francisco & Apolonia.  

Descendants of Francisco Lopes Fonseca


1 Francisco Lopes Fonseca b: Abt. 1676 in Sao Mateus, Pico, Azores/UM site 
.. +Apolonia Candeias b: Abt. 1676 in Pico, Azores/UM site m: Bef. 1696 in Sao 
Mateus, Pico, Azores/UM site
. 2 Agueda Ascencao b: Jun 04, 1696 in Sao Mateus, Pico, Azores/UM site 
. +Domingos Rosa b: Jun 02, 1689 in Sao Mateus, Pico, Azores/UM site m: Aug 
09, 1711 in Sao Mateus, Pico, Azores/UM siteAgueda married Domingos Rosa, a 
brother of Manuel Rosa Pais who is an ancestor of my husband's paternal 
grandfather from Pico.  The ancestors I have for Manuel are all from Pico.
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Chris Macedo  wrote:


From: Chris Macedo 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Lopes da Fonseca
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Cc: gandc...@bigpond.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 5:28 PM


Francisco Lopes Fonseca b. S. Mateus,Pico d.1718
married Apolonia das Candias d.1718

I have met a 'roadblock trying to connect these two back to

Antonio Lopes da Fonseca b. Terceira c.1435 ( very rough date)
m. Margarida de Ornellas da Camara b.?

parents of Margarida were
Pedro Goncalves de Camara ca. 1460
Catarina de Ornellas de Saaveidra ca. 1470

parents of Pedro
Joao goncalves da Camara ca.1430
Meccia de Noronha ca 1440

parents of Joao
Joao Goncalves Zargo ca. 1380- 1467
Constanca Rodrigues Almeida de Sa ca. 1394 - 1485

I think most of these people were born in Angra do Heroismo.

they are listed as ancestors of my ancestor Aldina Rosa Do Coracao de
Jesus b. 23 Sept 1822
S.Mateus, ilha do Pico. Also listed among her ancestors is

Joao Fonseca b. 1435 Lagos, Algarve, Portugal
married to  ???

with
Goncolo Annes da Fonseca b. about 1475  Lagos, Portugal
m.Mecia de Andrade Machedo b. about 1487

somewhere this family went to Terceira (Angra do Hirismo)
and also ties into my family.

This is consistant with the informtion I received from my g.
grandfather Jose Andrade Macedo
via my aunt.

Is there anyone who can trace these people to Francisco Lopes da
Fonseca??.
I would be so grateful. I am hoping that someone might aready have the
information.

Christine Macedo Lee


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My experience searching for naturalization papers

[celeste perry]

Robin, I think it takes experiences like what you mention to make us look under 
each and every rock when the "likely" search does not give us the results we 
need.  
Celeste, Hayward, CA

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--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Besotes  wrote:


From: Besotes 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My experience searching for naturalization 
papers
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 3:14 PM





Celeste,
 
Many years ago while researching in San Benito County for one of my lines I was 
told to check all bordering areas of where the family lived.  Why?  Because 
just as I may drive to Sacramento, Sutter or Yuba Counties from my county of 
Placer to do business, so did our relatives. I live in the country and am 
pretty much right in the middle of being able to drive to all these counties 
the same distance from my home.  Anyhow, they may have been working in that 
area, delivering hay, or whatever and stopped at an office to be naturalized.  
 
Ever since then I keep an open mind on all research to never limit myself to 
the immediate area of where my family lived.  
 
BTW, another example, even though we lived in Placer County when our son was in 
High School, his school "district" was in another county.  His high school was 
closer to our home (besides being in the district), then the high school in the 
town in which we live.
 
Robin Borba Besotes
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My experience searching for naturalization papers

[celeste perry]

I fooled him.  I found him in just one day of looking in the baptism book for 
March,1865, (didn't even have to look that far into the year) Cedros, 
Flores.    When I found him, I wanted to dance on the large table in the 
archive that faces the water.  The archive staff thought I was crazy when I 
kept saying, I found him, I found, I found him to everyone that was there.  
Celeste

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From: Cheri Mello 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My experience searching for naturalization 
papers
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 6:09 PM


Celeste,

He went across the bay for a change of scenery.  Either that, or he had a 
premonition in a dream that his future grandson's mother-in-law was going to 
look for him, so he wanted to play hard to get :)

Our ancestors do make it hard sometimes.  Persevere, persevere, persevere!

Cheri
Who took 4 years and 25 documents to find her freguesia

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Certificate Searches Borba

[Adair Borba]

Shirley,

I am confused, are you talking about your grandfathers or mine?

Do you mean there is a place I should go that has naturalization  
papers in these two areas?


Adair
On Aug 2, 2010, at 2:07 PM, Shirley Allegre wrote:


I found one Grandfather's naturalization info in San Bruno, CA.
I found the other Grandfather's info in Oakland, CA

Shirley in CA

- Original Message - From: "Adair Borba"  


To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Certificate Searches Borba


Eric,

I did search for Manuels' Naturalization papers on Ancestry, but came
up with nothing.  Should I be searching somewhere else that I do not
know about?

I am continually surprised by all your help!

Adair
On Aug 1, 2010, at 7:59 PM, eric edgar wrote:


Adair,

I order my Sonoma county vital records from the Sonoma County   
Recorders office.
I think it was $18 each by mail. I'll see if I can find you some  
exact

dates. Have you tried getting Manuels naturaliztion paperwork?

Eric

Eric Edgar

On 8/1/10, Adair Borba  wrote:

I was hoping that if I found one Birth certificate for my family I
would get information on the parents that could get my search going
again.

I found a site called Vital records that would charge $38 for a  
birth

certificate with no guarantee they could find it, and no credit
towards another search.

Has anyone else found another good way to get a birth certificate
without spending this money with no guarantee?

I have already collected all the data on Ancestry for this group,
birth and Baptism records do not seem to be available.

Adair

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: HENRIQUES, FREDERICO, GONSALV ES, DE JESUS & SILVEIRA families in Fajãzinha, Flores

[Katharine]

>From Francisco A.N.P. Gomes' book, right?  I have this marriage line
dating all the way back to:

MARTINHO DE FRAGA (born in Fajãs, son of ANTÓNTIO DE FRAGA and ISABEL
COELHO) married at the Church of. São Pedro, Ponta Delgada, on
November 15, 1688, to MARIA COELHO (daughter of MANUEL COELHO FRAGA
and MARIA DE FREITAS).

(Sounds like cousin marriage to me!).  Regards, Katharine (with an "A"
in the middle).


On Aug 2, 2:05 pm, eric edgar  wrote:
> Katherine,
>
> *marriage record from Sao Jose, Faja Grande:*
>
> *Frederico Jose Henriques* [78 years, son of Manuel Caetano Rodrigues and
> Maria de Jesus, and the widower of Mariana Apolonia Goncalves]
>
> married on 16 Sep 1905 to
>
> *Maria da Conceicao Henriques* [ 71 years, daughter of Antonio de Freitas
> Pimentel and Ana de Conceicao, and the widow of Antonio Pimentel Bras]
>
> *Marriage record from Nossa Senhora dos Milagres , Lajedo*
>
> *Frederico Jose Caetano Henriques* [ 35 years,native of *Fajas, Lajes das
> Flores*, son of Manuel Caetano Henriques and Maria de Jesus]
>
> married 3 Nov 1862 to
>
> *Maria Apolonia da Conceicao* [21 years, daughter of Silvestre Antonio
> Goncalves and Ana de Jesus]
>
> Eric Edgar
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Katharine wrote:
>
>
>
> > Does anyone have information they could please share on the following
> > individuals who would have been adults living in Fajãzinha, Flores, in
> > the mid-1800s?
>
> > 1.  JOSÉ FREDERICO and his wife ANNA LUÍSA, who lived on Rua das Moças
> > (Maiden Lane).
>
> > José Frederico's mother was ISABEL LUÍSA.
>
> > Anna Luísa's parents were VITORINO JOSÉ DA SILVEIRA and MARIANNA DE
> > JESUS.
>
> > 2.   FREDERICO JOSÉ HENRIQUES and his wife MARIANA PILÁNIA (usually
> > given as APOLLÔNIA), who lived on Rua do Espinhaço (Ridge Street).
>
> > Frederico José Henriques' parents were MANUEL CAETANO HENRIQUES and
> > MARIA DE JESUS.
>
> > Mariana Apollônia's parents were SILVESTRE ANTÓNIO GONSALVES and ANNA
> > DE JESUS.
>
> > 3.  PAULINO JOSÉ HENRIQUES and his wife ANNA DE JESUS.
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: JORGE, SILVEIRA, FURTADO & VA LADÃO families in Fajã Grande, Flores (specifically Ponta)

[Katharine]

The paper the letters are written on is delicate, the ink faint, the
penmanship challenging, and the spelling archaic (if not sometimes
just plain wrong).  Scanning them would also be very time-consuming,
and my family situation makes in not feasible at this time.

However, the gist of all these letters can be summarized as, "Esteemed
(etc.) aunt, I hope you are well.  Please send money."

Sorry not to be able to be of more help right now.  Katharine (with an
"A" in the middle).


On Aug 2, 12:51 am, eric edgar  wrote:
> Katherine,
>
> I did a project for a George family in the Fremont Hayward area a few years
> ago and was never able to identify the immigrant ancestor. They were from
> the Azores and arrived before 1860.
>
> I'd be interested in a scan or copy as I have a dozen or more projects
> involving Flores families.
>
> Eric Edgar
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Katharine wrote:
>
>
>
> > Does anyone have info on ANTONIO JOSÉ JORGE and his wife ANNA LUÍZA of
> > Ponta da Fajã Grande das Flores?  They had (at least) two children who
> > immigrated to Northern California, Frank A. George (b. ca. 1848,
> > presumably as FRANCISCO JORGE ) and ISABEL THOMAZIA (b. ca. 1854).
>
> > In addition, I have over old letters to Isabel in Portuguese from two
> > nieces and a nephew of hers who stayed behind in Ponta da Fajã Grande:
>
> > 7 are signed by MARIA MATEUS (or Matheus) SILVEIRA (1913-1938);
>
> > 8 are signed by ANA FLORIPES (or Floripe or Fluripas) DA SILVEIRA (7
> > between 1917-1926, plus 1 undated); and,
>
> > 1 is signed by MANUEL LUÍZ FURTADO (1936).
>
> > Additionally, I have an undated letter from JOSÉ ANTÓNIO VALADÃO
> > (possibly from Flores) and a 1921 letter from ISABEL FURTADO in
> > Oakland, California.
>
> > Does any recognize any of these names?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] My experience searching for naturalization papers

[Cheri Mello]

Celeste,

He went across the bay for a change of scenery.  Either that, or he had a
premonition in a dream that his future grandson's mother-in-law was going to
look for him, so he wanted to play hard to get :)

Our ancestors do make it hard sometimes.  Persevere, persevere, persevere!

Cheri
Who took 4 years and 25 documents to find her freguesia

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Francisco Lopes da Fonseca

[Chris Macedo]

Francisco Lopes Fonseca b. S. Mateus,Pico d.1718
married Apolonia das Candias d.1718

I have met a 'roadblock trying to connect these two back to

Antonio Lopes da Fonseca b. Terceira c.1435 ( very rough date)
m. Margarida de Ornellas da Camara b.?

parents of Margarida were
Pedro Goncalves de Camara ca. 1460
Catarina de Ornellas de Saaveidra ca. 1470

parents of Pedro
Joao goncalves da Camara ca.1430
Meccia de Noronha ca 1440

parents of Joao
Joao Goncalves Zargo ca. 1380- 1467
Constanca Rodrigues Almeida de Sa ca. 1394 - 1485

I think most of these people were born in Angra do Heroismo.

they are listed as ancestors of my ancestor Aldina Rosa Do Coracao de
Jesus b. 23 Sept 1822
S.Mateus, ilha do Pico. Also listed among her ancestors is

Joao Fonseca b. 1435 Lagos, Algarve, Portugal
married to  ???

with
Goncolo Annes da Fonseca b. about 1475  Lagos, Portugal
m.Mecia de Andrade Machedo b. about 1487

somewhere this family went to Terceira (Angra do Hirismo)
and also ties into my family.

This is consistant with the informtion I received from my g.
grandfather Jose Andrade Macedo
via my aunt.

Is there anyone who can trace these people to Francisco Lopes da
Fonseca??.
I would be so grateful. I am hoping that someone might aready have the
information.

Christine Macedo Lee


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[AZORES-Genealogy] My experience searching for naturalization papers

[celeste perry]

   A few years ago,  I was searching for Frank Enos Sousa, (Francisco Ignacio 
Sousa) my son-in-law's paternal grandfather.  Frank had lived in Oakland, CA 
from before the turn of the century and I had the address of the house where he 
lived and where all his children were born.
   I spent an entire summer looking at naturalization papers at the Alameda 
County office in Oakland.  I did not find it.  Because the family insisted he 
had been naturalized, I did not give up.  I was told during my search that a 
person could have been naturalized in ANY court; even a traffic court.  That 
really made it more difficult for me, I thought only some special court did 
that.
   I contacted the San Francisco County office (Oakland is just across the bay 
from SF).  Of course, there were almost no naturalization papers for the time 
period I needed because of the earthquake and fires in 1906 that destroyed all 
of them.  
   I was told there was something called, "The Great Register," which was 
really voter registration, by prestinct, for 1890.  I found a copy of The Great 
Register at the Oakland Library and began to try to find Frank.  Of course, 
there was no way to figure out the number of the prestinct in which he lived.  
   I went to the voter registration office (in the same building) and asked 
what the number would have been for 1890.  I learned that the numbers changed 
and there was no way to know what it was in 1890.
   During my very agitated conversation with the person at the counter, a woman 
overheard me and said I needed to check the, "Erickson Collection."  OK, what 
is this collection.  She told me it is the original forms that all voters 
signed when they registered to vote.  (Don't get too excited, yet!)  I was also 
told that when the forms were going to be destroyed, someone, (I suppose an 
Erickson) gathered up the binders and found someplace to send them.  
   As it turned out, they were sent to California State College in Hayward.  
(Now Cal State East Bay).  I made an appt. with the archivist there and saw an 
entire wall of binders that contained all of the original voter registration 
forms from the beginning of Alameda County until 1920.  
   I searched for, and found, Frank Enos Sousa had voted 16 times (you had to 
fill out a new form each time you voted, I guess).  On one of the forms, Frank 
had written not Portugal, not Azores (like he did on 15 of them) but Flores, 
Azores.  His place of naturalization was also on that form.  To this day, I 
would like to know why someone who lived in Oakland went to SF, (there was no 
bridge across the bay in those days).  
   That was my lead that I followed through the UPEC, which gave me his date of 
birth and then to the baptism books that are in the archive in Fayal, Azores.  
   I have written this very long note to encourage you to keep an open mind 
about spelling, places, dates, etc. when you are looking for your ancestors.
Celeste, Hayward, CA

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA obits

[lreis]

tks for infor - it doesn't hurt to try!!

On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:30 PM, celeste perry  wrote:

> Ireis,
>Your Manuel may have belonged to the IDES or UPEC (both originally men's
> organizations).
> The new organization, PFSA (Portuguese Fraternal Societies of America)
> which resulted from the merger of the UPPEC, (women) UPEC, (men), IDES,
> (men) and SES (I think they always admitted both men & women) may have
> information about their members.  I am not sure; however, it may be worth a
> try to find out which local councils of the above listed organizations
> still have active councils.  Those councils may have information about
> members.  If he joined one of the organizations, there MAY be death
> records.
>In my experience, it has not been easy to obtain information from any of
> the organizations, other than the UPPEC, where my mother and aunt were
> active from the 1940's until death in 1997  (for my aunt) and dementia,
> presently,  (for my mother) occurred.
>The PFSA is located in San Leandro, CA; houses the Freitas Library and
> may have information that can help you.  Their email is:  www.mypfsa.org
>Celeste, Hayward, CA
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> --- On *Mon, 8/2/10, lreis * wrote:
>
>
> From: lreis 
> Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA obits
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 7:52 AM
>
>
> Celeste, thank you for this information, I greatly appreciate it.  If you
> or someone else should be able to get any information on her husband, Manuel
> Furtado (my uncle) that would be so helpful.  thanks again
>
> Lil
>
> On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, celeste perry 
> http://us.mc506.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ccgran...@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>   Hi Lil,
>I have access to the death records for the UPPEC Fraternal Lodge.  In
> that index, I found:
> Mary H. furtado died 9/20/1995, at the age of 71 years in Vallejo.  Her
> date of birth was given as 7/4/1914, in Navato, CA.  Father: Victorio
> Mattos, Azores; mother: Barbara Camara, Azores.
> She died of Diabetes Melitus and myocardial asystole.  The mortuary was,
> twin Chapels and she is buried at All Souls Cemetery in Vallejo.  The
> contact person was Mary Jean Rapose Kinney.  That is all the information I
> have.
>
> Celeste, Hayward, CA
> Celeste Perry 
> ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
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> From: Lil 
> http://us.mc506.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ljfr...@gmail.com>
> >
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA obits
> To: "Azores Genealogy" 
> http://us.mc506.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=azo...@googlegroups.com>
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> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 8:32 PM
>
>
> I'm wondering if anyone living in the Vallejo, CA area could look up
> the following obituaries in the local newspaper -
>
> Manuel Carreiro Furtado   4Feb1915 to 26Jan1985
> Vallejo, CA
> his parents were Antonio Carreiro Furtado and Maria do Carmo Motta
>
> and his wife Mary H Furtado  20Sep1995 to 20Sep1995 Vallejo,
> CA
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> would really appreciate it
>
> Lil
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Certificate Searches Borba

[eric edgar]

Adair,

My ggGrandfather Manuel J Vieira lived in Analy Township, Sonoma county
also. He can be found   a few census sheets away from your Borbas on the
1900 census. His naturalzation paper work was filed in Sonoma County court
in 1898.

I spent a day in Santa Rosa at the Library History Center and in the
Sebastapol Library gathering info. The Great Register of Voters list there
only showed birthplace as Portugal. Even the naturalization application only
shows Portugal. A few of the applicants listed Azores or Western Islands,
but no one was specific with island or town.


The clues I spotted were on the 1900 census, that the oldest son Manuel was
born in 1878 in Rhode Island, that the parents were married 24 years in
1900, so in 1876, or four years after
Manuels arrival in 1872.

I'd look for a Rhode Island marriage record from that year.

Eric

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:13 PM, Adair Borba  wrote:

> Eric,
>
> I did search for Manuels' Naturalization papers on Ancestry, but came up
> with nothing.  Should I be searching somewhere else that I do not know
> about?
>
> I am continually surprised by all your help!
>
> Adair
>
> On Aug 1, 2010, at 7:59 PM, eric edgar wrote:
>
>   Adair,
>>
>> I order my Sonoma county vital records from the Sonoma County Recorders
>> office.
>> I think it was $18 each by mail. I'll see if I can find you some exact
>> dates. Have you tried getting Manuels naturaliztion paperwork?
>>
>> Eric
>>
>> Eric Edgar
>>
>> On 8/1/10, Adair Borba  wrote:
>>
>>> I was hoping that if I found one Birth certificate for my family I
>>> would get information on the parents that could get my search going
>>> again.
>>>
>>> I found a site called Vital records that would charge $38 for a birth
>>> certificate with no guarantee they could find it, and no credit
>>> towards another search.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else found another good way to get a birth certificate
>>> without spending this money with no guarantee?
>>>
>>> I have already collected all the data on Ancestry for this group,
>>> birth and Baptism records do not seem to be available.
>>>
>>> Adair
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba

[Besotes]

Loretta,

Where did your Borba's settle?  Mine too are from Terceira and some of the 
children (whom were born here in California) also went by different last names 
- Borba, Barbe

One, Gus (Borba) Barbe had Barbe Tractor and Equipment Company.

Robin Borba Besotes
  - Original Message - 
  From: drvh...@cs.com 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: 2010-08-02 10:44
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba


  Sorry  to interfer with this message my Borba's went by Borba one brother 
Barba another, my other uncle Barber. I found that with each census  the name 
was spelled a different way. Good luck I'm still searching. My borba's came 
from Terceria, my uncle traveled to Borba Portugal which he had family.

  thanks 
  Loretta

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] HENRIQUES, FREDERICO, GONSALV ES, DE JESUS & SILVEIRA families in Fajãzinha, Flores

[eric edgar]

Katherine,

*marriage record from Sao Jose, Faja Grande:*

*Frederico Jose Henriques* [78 years, son of Manuel Caetano Rodrigues and
Maria de Jesus, and the widower of Mariana Apolonia Goncalves]

married on 16 Sep 1905 to

*Maria da Conceicao Henriques* [ 71 years, daughter of Antonio de Freitas
Pimentel and Ana de Conceicao, and the widow of Antonio Pimentel Bras]



*Marriage record from Nossa Senhora dos Milagres , Lajedo*

*Frederico Jose Caetano Henriques* [ 35 years,native of *Fajas, Lajes das
Flores*, son of Manuel Caetano Henriques and Maria de Jesus]

married 3 Nov 1862 to

*Maria Apolonia da Conceicao* [21 years, daughter of Silvestre Antonio
Goncalves and Ana de Jesus]

Eric Edgar
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Katharine wrote:

> Does anyone have information they could please share on the following
> individuals who would have been adults living in Fajãzinha, Flores, in
> the mid-1800s?
>
> 1.  JOSÉ FREDERICO and his wife ANNA LUÍSA, who lived on Rua das Moças
> (Maiden Lane).
>
> José Frederico's mother was ISABEL LUÍSA.
>
> Anna Luísa's parents were VITORINO JOSÉ DA SILVEIRA and MARIANNA DE
> JESUS.
>
>
> 2.   FREDERICO JOSÉ HENRIQUES and his wife MARIANA PILÁNIA (usually
> given as APOLLÔNIA), who lived on Rua do Espinhaço (Ridge Street).
>
> Frederico José Henriques' parents were MANUEL CAETANO HENRIQUES and
> MARIA DE JESUS.
>
> Mariana Apollônia's parents were SILVESTRE ANTÓNIO GONSALVES and ANNA
> DE JESUS.
>
>
> 3.  PAULINO JOSÉ HENRIQUES and his wife ANNA DE JESUS.
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] JORGE, SILVEIRA, FURTADO & VA LADÃO families in Fajã Grande, Flores (specifically Ponta)

[Debra Wolgemuth]

Katharine and Eric,
 
My great grandfather was Francisco Jose Jorge (1871 - 1963) and he immigrated 
to the US in 1889 settling in Merced in the Buhach Colony.  He was the son of 
Antonio Jose Jorge and Ana de Jesus.  Francisco's daughter, Marie E George 
married Edwin W Rodrigues, grandson of Mary Silveira Matos Enos (1883-1978).  
The Jorge and Enos famlies were neighbors in the Buhach Colony.  Edwin's father 
died in the Spanish flu epidemic (abt 1918) and was raised by his grandparents 
in Merced.  
 
I knew that the Jorge family was from Faja Grande, Flores from listening to 
conversations as a child.  From census records, I assumed that Mary Silveira 
Matos Enos (1883-1978) and Joseph Enos (1877-1956) immigrated from another 
Azores island and not Flores. 
 
I can't read Portuguese, but I'd love to find out what the letters say.


Debbie Wolgemuth
Riverside, California
Researching Azoreans:  Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), 
Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown)
Immigrated to:  Merced, CA 


 



Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 21:51:05 -0700
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] JORGE, SILVEIRA, FURTADO & VALADÃO families in 
Fajã Grande, Flores (specifically Ponta)
From: noblankt...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com


Katherine, 
 
I did a project for a George family in the Fremont Hayward area a few years ago 
and was never able to identify the immigrant ancestor. They were from the 
Azores and arrived before 1860.
 
I'd be interested in a scan or copy as I have a dozen or more projects 
involving Flores families.
 
Eric Edgar


On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Katharine  wrote:

Does anyone have info on ANTONIO JOSÉ JORGE and his wife ANNA LUÍZA of
Ponta da Fajã Grande das Flores?  They had (at least) two children who
immigrated to Northern California, Frank A. George (b. ca. 1848,
presumably as FRANCISCO JORGE ) and ISABEL THOMAZIA (b. ca. 1854).

In addition, I have over old letters to Isabel in Portuguese from two
nieces and a nephew of hers who stayed behind in Ponta da Fajã Grande:

7 are signed by MARIA MATEUS (or Matheus) SILVEIRA (1913-1938);

8 are signed by ANA FLORIPES (or Floripe or Fluripas) DA SILVEIRA (7
between 1917-1926, plus 1 undated); and,

1 is signed by MANUEL LUÍZ FURTADO (1936).

Additionally, I have an undated letter from JOSÉ ANTÓNIO VALADÃO
(possibly from Flores) and a 1921 letter from ISABEL FURTADO in
Oakland, California.

Does any recognize any of these names?

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Certificate Searches Borba

[Shirley Allegre]

I found one Grandfather's naturalization info in San Bruno, CA.
I found the other Grandfather's info in Oakland, CA

Shirley in CA

- Original Message - 
From: "Adair Borba" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth Certificate Searches Borba


Eric,

I did search for Manuels' Naturalization papers on Ancestry, but came
up with nothing.  Should I be searching somewhere else that I do not
know about?

I am continually surprised by all your help!

Adair
On Aug 1, 2010, at 7:59 PM, eric edgar wrote:


Adair,

I order my Sonoma county vital records from the Sonoma County  Recorders 
office.

I think it was $18 each by mail. I'll see if I can find you some exact
dates. Have you tried getting Manuels naturaliztion paperwork?

Eric

Eric Edgar

On 8/1/10, Adair Borba  wrote:

I was hoping that if I found one Birth certificate for my family I
would get information on the parents that could get my search going
again.

I found a site called Vital records that would charge $38 for a birth
certificate with no guarantee they could find it, and no credit
towards another search.

Has anyone else found another good way to get a birth certificate
without spending this money with no guarantee?

I have already collected all the data on Ancestry for this group,
birth and Baptism records do not seem to be available.

Adair

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba

[Shirley Allegre]

I found this on Ancestry.com

Index, 1940-1997 
about Jennie Barba 
Name: Jennie Barba
[Jennie Soloman]  
Social Security #: 0 
Sex: FEMALE 
Birth Date: 17 Oct 1857 
Birthplace: Other Country 
Death Date: 6 Oct 1946 
Death Place: Solano 
Father's Surname :  Solomon 


  SHE DIED IN SOLANO  COUNTY

  Shirley in CA 

  - Original Message - 
  From: Adair Borba 
  To: azores@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 5:01 PM
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba


  Eric,


  This is terrific...how did you find it?


  I notice it isn't her last name so I guess this is an interpretation I need 
to consider when I search the others.  Do you know what the "RE", "89" and the 
"0" stand for?


  Does this mean she died in Solano, California?  If so, I would have never 
guessed...


  Thanks so much,


  Adair

  On Aug 1, 2010, at 3:09 PM, eric edgar wrote:



Adair, 

Thanks to "E"s post I found Jennies  death record
  BARBA   JENNIE  1857   10   17  SOLOMAN   FEMALE   RE   
SOLANO   1946   10   06  89   0 


Eric Edgar

 
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Adair Borba  wrote:

  It appears that Manuels Brother was born in Norte Pegueno, San Jorge...so 
I am guessing Manuel E was also born there. 


  My best Link so far to Portugal!


  Adair

  On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Adair Borba wrote:


I have, thank you... 


On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Debra Wolgemuth wrote:


  Adair, 


  Have you tried FindaGrave.com online?  I've located several relatives 
grave information on this site.


  http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

  Debbie Wolgemuth
  Riverside, California
  Researching Azoreans:  Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San 
Miguel), Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown)
  Immigrated to:  Merced, CA 




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  Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:23:49 +
  Subject: Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba
  From: bellema...@gmail.com
  To: azores@googlegroups.com

  Adair, 

  I spoke with a very nice woman at the Western Sonoma County 
Historical Society and she found the following. She said they are buried at a 
little cemetery she thought was called Forest Lawn on the corner of Bodega Hwy 
but I have a feeling it is Sebastopol Memorial Lawn Cemetery as I cannot find a 
Forest Lawn Cemetery. I am not familiar with Sebastopol but she said if you get 
to Pleasant Hill you have gone too far. So I have called Sebastopol Memorial 
Lawn and waiting for them to call me back with exact dates of death for Jennie 
and Manuel. 

  Manuel E. Borba 1851-1934 
  Jennie Borba 1856-1946 
  Wm. Sebastian Borba 1886-1971 
  Manuel I. Borba 1878-1977 

  The woman and the Western Sonoma County Historical Society started 
giving me info in obit but I'm sorry I could not write that fast but she did 
tell me the obits would have been in either the Santa Rosa Press Democrat or 
the Sebastopol paper. Also, she said someone in the office did a study of some 
of the people in the area and she said Borba was a familiar name in the area so 
you might want to give them a jingle to see what else they might have on the 
family. 

  "E" 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz

[Shirley Allegre]

I don't know Rick.  I think that my fine wine is beginning to turn to 
vinegar.

TTYL
Shirley
- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 2:27 PM
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Baptism of Braz


Hi Shirley,

It is nothing to be sorry about. Just like fine wine we get better with
age.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, New Hampshire, USA
Researching Bretanha, Ribeirinha, Ribeira Grande, Achade Grande, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba

[drvhere]

Sorry  to interfer with this message my Borba's went by Borba one brother Barba 
another, my other uncle Barber. I found that with each census  the name was 
spelled a different way. Good luck I'm still searching. My borba's came from 
Terceria, my uncle traveled to Borba Portugal which he had family.

thanks 
Loretta







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From: eric edgar 
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, Aug 1, 2010 10:59 pm
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba


Adair, 
 
When I search the Vital search databases, I just assume some part of the record 
will be incorrect, for Portugues it's usuall the spelling. 
 
I search multiple times with different input to find that which fits best. 
 
RE means Rest of the World, , as in where they were born. Sometimes you'll see 
it as PT for Portugal or even AZ for Azores, often misread to be Arizona

89 is years old at death.
 
I should have given it like this with explanations
 
 
  

Last_Name
First_Name
Middle_Name
B_yr
B_mo
B_dy
Mothers_Last_Name
Fathers_Last_Name
Sex
Bp
County_of_Death
D_yr
D_mo
D_dy
SS_Number
Age
idno

 BARBA 
 JENNIE 
  
 1857 
 10 
 17 
  
 SOLOMAN 
 FEMALE 
 RE 
 SOLANO 
 1946 
 10 
 06 
  
 89 
 0 


 


 
On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 5:01 PM, Adair Borba  wrote:

Eric, 


This is terrific...how did you find it?


I notice it isn't her last name so I guess this is an interpretation I need to 
consider when I search the others.  Do you know what the "RE", "89" and the "0" 
stand for?


Does this mean she died in Solano, California?  If so, I would have never 
guessed...


Thanks so much,


Adair



On Aug 1, 2010, at 3:09 PM, eric edgar wrote:






Adair, 
 
Thanks to "E"s post I found Jennies  death record


BARBA 
 JENNIE 
  
 1857 
 10 
 17 
  
 SOLOMAN 
 FEMALE 
 RE 
 SOLANO 
 1946 
 10 
 06 
  
 89 
 0


 
Eric Edgar

 
On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Adair Borba  wrote:

It appears that Manuels Brother was born in Norte Pegueno, San Jorge...so I am 
guessing Manuel E was also born there. 


My best Link so far to Portugal!


Adair

On Jul 31, 2010, at 6:03 AM, Adair Borba wrote:


I have, thank you... 


On Jul 30, 2010, at 7:02 PM, Debra Wolgemuth wrote:


Adair, 
 
Have you tried FindaGrave.com online?  I've located several relatives grave 
information on this site.
 
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi

Debbie Wolgemuth
Riverside, California
Researching Azoreans:  Jorge (Flores), Freitas (Flores), Enos (San Miguel), 
Silveira Matos (Faial), Rodrigues (unknown)
Immigrated to:  Merced, CA 



Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:23:49 +
Subject: Re: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel Borba
From: bellema...@gmail.com
To: azores@googlegroups.com

Adair, 

I spoke with a very nice woman at the Western Sonoma County Historical Society 
and she found the following. She said they are buried at a little cemetery she 
thought was called Forest Lawn on the corner of Bodega Hwy but I have a feeling 
it is Sebastopol Memorial Lawn Cemetery as I cannot find a Forest Lawn 
Cemetery. I am not familiar with Sebastopol but she said if you get to Pleasant 
Hill you have gone too far. So I have called Sebastopol Memorial Lawn and 
waiting for them to call me back with exact dates of death for Jennie and 
Manuel. 

Manuel E. Borba 1851-1934 
Jennie Borba 1856-1946 
Wm. Sebastian Borba 1886-1971 
Manuel I. Borba 1878-1977 

The woman and the Western Sonoma County Historical Society started giving me 
info in obit but I'm sorry I could not write that fast but she did tell me the 
obits would have been in either the Santa Rosa Press Democrat or the Sebastopol 
paper. Also, she said someone in the office did a study of some of the people 
in the area and she said Borba was a familiar name in the area so you might 
want to give them a jingle to see what else they might have on the family. 

"E" 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA obits

[celeste perry]

Ireis,
   Your Manuel may have belonged to the IDES or UPEC (both originally men's 
organizations).  
The new organization, PFSA (Portuguese Fraternal Societies of America) which 
resulted from the merger of the UPPEC, (women) UPEC, (men), IDES, (men) and SES 
(I think they always admitted both men & women) may have information about 
their members.  I am not sure; however, it may be worth a try to find out which 
local councils of the above listed organizations still have active councils.  
Those councils may have information about members.  If he joined one of the 
organizations, there MAY be death records.  
   In my experience, it has not been easy to obtain information from any of the 
organizations, other than the UPPEC, where my mother and aunt were active from 
the 1940's until death in 1997  (for my aunt) and dementia, presently,  (for my 
mother) occurred.
   The PFSA is located in San Leandro, CA; houses the Freitas Library and may 
have information that can help you.  Their email is:  www.mypfsa.org 
   Celeste, Hayward, CA
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--- On Mon, 8/2/10, lreis  wrote:


From: lreis 
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA obits
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 7:52 AM


Celeste, thank you for this information, I greatly appreciate it.  If you or 
someone else should be able to get any information on her husband, Manuel 
Furtado (my uncle) that would be so helpful.  thanks again

Lil


On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, celeste perry  wrote:






Hi Lil,
   I have access to the death records for the UPPEC Fraternal Lodge.  In that 
index, I found:
Mary H. furtado died 9/20/1995, at the age of 71 years in Vallejo.  Her date of 
birth was given as 7/4/1914, in Navato, CA.  Father: Victorio Mattos, Azores; 
mother: Barbara Camara, Azores.
She died of Diabetes Melitus and myocardial asystole.  The mortuary was, twin 
Chapels and she is buried at All Souls Cemetery in Vallejo.  The contact person 
was Mary Jean Rapose Kinney.  That is all the information I have.
 
Celeste, Hayward, CA
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, Lil  wrote:


From: Lil 
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA obits
To: "Azores Genealogy" 
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 8:32 PM





I'm wondering if anyone living in the Vallejo, CA area could look up
the following obituaries in the local newspaper -

Manuel Carreiro Furtado                   4Feb1915 to 26Jan1985
Vallejo, CA
his parents were Antonio Carreiro Furtado and Maria do Carmo Motta

and his wife Mary H Furtado          20Sep1995 to 20Sep1995 Vallejo,
CA

would really appreciate it

Lil

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[AZORES-Genealogy] HENRIQUES, FREDERICO, GONSALVES, DE JESUS & SILVEIRA families in Fajãzinha, Flores

[Katharine]

Does anyone have information they could please share on the following
individuals who would have been adults living in Fajãzinha, Flores, in
the mid-1800s?

1.  JOSÉ FREDERICO and his wife ANNA LUÍSA, who lived on Rua das Moças
(Maiden Lane).

José Frederico's mother was ISABEL LUÍSA.

Anna Luísa's parents were VITORINO JOSÉ DA SILVEIRA and MARIANNA DE
JESUS.


2.   FREDERICO JOSÉ HENRIQUES and his wife MARIANA PILÁNIA (usually
given as APOLLÔNIA), who lived on Rua do Espinhaço (Ridge Street).

Frederico José Henriques' parents were MANUEL CAETANO HENRIQUES and
MARIA DE JESUS.

Mariana Apollônia's parents were SILVESTRE ANTÓNIO GONSALVES and ANNA
DE JESUS.


3.  PAULINO JOSÉ HENRIQUES and his wife ANNA DE JESUS.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA obits

[lreis]

Celeste, thank you for this information, I greatly appreciate it.  If you or
someone else should be able to get any information on her husband, Manuel
Furtado (my uncle) that would be so helpful.  thanks again

Lil

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, celeste perry  wrote:

> Hi Lil,
>I have access to the death records for the UPPEC Fraternal Lodge.  In
> that index, I found:
> Mary H. furtado died 9/20/1995, at the age of 71 years in Vallejo.  Her
> date of birth was given as 7/4/1914, in Navato, CA.  Father: Victorio
> Mattos, Azores; mother: Barbara Camara, Azores.
> She died of Diabetes Melitus and myocardial asystole.  The mortuary was,
> twin Chapels and she is buried at All Souls Cemetery in Vallejo.  The
> contact person was Mary Jean Rapose Kinney.  That is all the information I
> have.
>
> Celeste, Hayward, CA
> Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com
>
> --- On *Sat, 7/31/10, Lil * wrote:
>
>
> From: Lil 
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] CA obits
> To: "Azores Genealogy" 
> Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 8:32 PM
>
>
> I'm wondering if anyone living in the Vallejo, CA area could look up
> the following obituaries in the local newspaper -
>
> Manuel Carreiro Furtado   4Feb1915 to 26Jan1985
> Vallejo, CA
> his parents were Antonio Carreiro Furtado and Maria do Carmo Motta
>
> and his wife Mary H Furtado  20Sep1995 to 20Sep1995 Vallejo,
> CA
>
> would really appreciate it
>
> Lil
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Marriage Antonio Vieira and Anna Thomazia

[Steven McNamara]

Thanks again everyone for you help, you guys are great!

-Original Message-
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Joao S. Lopes
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 2010 3:18 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Res: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Marriage Antonio Vieira
and Anna Thomazia


10th of March 1813 at Nossa Senhora dos Anjos (Our Lady of Angels), Matrix
of 
Villa
> de Agoa de Pau (=Agua de Pau) Reverand Ouvidor Luiz Bernardo Borges de 
>Bitancurt, in the presence of mine Joao Ignacio de Souza priest (Cura) of
the 
>same church, with witnesses Antonio da Silva and Joze Antonio ... Antonio
Vieira 
>son of  Manuel Vieira &  Theodora de Jesus with Anna Thomazia daughter of 
>Antonio de Pimentel Fernandes &  Joanna de Jesus, both baptized and
desobrigados 
>da Quaresma (Lent) at this parish




- Mensagem original 
De: Jesse Pacheco 
Para: azores@googlegroups.com
Enviadas: Domingo, 1 de Agosto de 2010 14:27:17
Assunto: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation Help-Marriage Antonio Vieira and

Anna Thomazia

  I think it says villa de Agoa do Pao, not Lagoa. Because you skipped 
parts of the record I'm not sure what the s are referring to but 
everything else looks correct to me. I think right after Joana de Jesus 
it says where Anna was born (Baptiza...) but I'm not sure where it is 
saying.

On 8/1/2010 10:51 AM, Steven McNamara wrote:
>http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/SMLAGAPC1809-1832/SMLAG
APC1809-1832_item1/P37.html
>l
>
> Above is the link to the wedding of Antonio Vieira and Anna Thomazia.
> Just want to make sure I didn't miss anything or get it wrong.  Does
> it say where Anna Thomazia was born?
>
> Wedding of Antonio Vieria and Anna Thomazia
>
> 10th of March 1813 at Nossa Senhora dos Anjos, Matrix of Villa
> Lagoa,   Reverand Cludinio Luiz Bernardo, ???, Antonio Vieira son
> of  Manuel Vieira&  Theodora de Jesus with Anna Thomazia daughter of
> Antonio de Pimental Fernandes&  Joanna de Jesus.
>
> Otherwise I found this one a little hard to read due to the hand
> writing style.
>
> Thanks for you help,
>
> Steven
>

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] JORGE, SILVEIRA, FURTADO & VA LADÃO families in Fajã Grande, Flores (specifically Ponta)

[eric edgar]

Katherine,

Here are three marriage records from *Paroquia de Sao Jose, Faja
Grande*that relate to this;


*Antonio Jose Jorge* [ 36 years, son of Jose Inacio Jorge and Maria dos
Santos, and the widower of Maria de Jesus]

married 20 Jan 1863 to

*Ana de Jesus* [ 23 years, daughter of Antonio de Freitas Fragueiro, and of
Rita Laureano]

*  their son*

*Antonio Jose Jorge* [ 36 yrs, son of Antonio Jose Jorge  and of Ana de
Jesus]

married 29 Jul 1901 to

*Maria Jose Jorge* [ 17 years, daughter of Antonio Augusto da
Silva,born *Conceicao,
Horta, Faial* and of Mariana Pimentel da Silveira born *Faja Grande*]



*Manuel Luis Furtado Junior* [ 25 years, son of Manuel Luis Furtado and of
Maria de Sao Jose]

married on 1 Dec 1883 to

*Maria Luisa da Silveira* [15 years, daughter of Manuel Caetano da Silveira
and of Isabel de Jesus]






Eric Edgar

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Katharine wrote:

> Does anyone have info on ANTONIO JOSÉ JORGE and his wife ANNA LUÍZA of
> Ponta da Fajã Grande das Flores?  They had (at least) two children who
> immigrated to Northern California, Frank A. George (b. ca. 1848,
> presumably as FRANCISCO JORGE ) and ISABEL THOMAZIA (b. ca. 1854).
>
> In addition, I have over old letters to Isabel in Portuguese from two
> nieces and a nephew of hers who stayed behind in Ponta da Fajã Grande:
>
> 7 are signed by MARIA MATEUS (or Matheus) SILVEIRA (1913-1938);
>
> 8 are signed by ANA FLORIPES (or Floripe or Fluripas) DA SILVEIRA (7
> between 1917-1926, plus 1 undated); and,
>
> 1 is signed by MANUEL LUÍZ FURTADO (1936).
>
> Additionally, I have an undated letter from JOSÉ ANTÓNIO VALADÃO
> (possibly from Flores) and a 1921 letter from ISABEL FURTADO in
> Oakland, California.
>
> Does any recognize any of these names?
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] JORGE, SILVEIRA, FURTADO & VA LADÃO families in Fajã Grande, Flores (specifically Ponta)

[eric edgar]

Katherine,

I did a project for a George family in the Fremont Hayward area a few years
ago and was never able to identify the immigrant ancestor. They were from
the Azores and arrived before 1860.

I'd be interested in a scan or copy as I have a dozen or more projects
involving Flores families.

Eric Edgar

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 8:24 PM, Katharine wrote:

> Does anyone have info on ANTONIO JOSÉ JORGE and his wife ANNA LUÍZA of
> Ponta da Fajã Grande das Flores?  They had (at least) two children who
> immigrated to Northern California, Frank A. George (b. ca. 1848,
> presumably as FRANCISCO JORGE ) and ISABEL THOMAZIA (b. ca. 1854).
>
> In addition, I have over old letters to Isabel in Portuguese from two
> nieces and a nephew of hers who stayed behind in Ponta da Fajã Grande:
>
> 7 are signed by MARIA MATEUS (or Matheus) SILVEIRA (1913-1938);
>
> 8 are signed by ANA FLORIPES (or Floripe or Fluripas) DA SILVEIRA (7
> between 1917-1926, plus 1 undated); and,
>
> 1 is signed by MANUEL LUÍZ FURTADO (1936).
>
> Additionally, I have an undated letter from JOSÉ ANTÓNIO VALADÃO
> (possibly from Flores) and a 1921 letter from ISABEL FURTADO in
> Oakland, California.
>
> Does any recognize any of these names?
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading casamento

[George Pacheco]

Here is the basic

On the nineth day of June 1751 in the afternoon in the Parish of Nossa
Senhora do Rosario, Lagoa

João do Rego widowed of Maria de Oliveira, buried in Nossa Senhora do
Rosario with Isabel da Encarnação daughter Francisco Machado and of
his wife Maria da Silva, they were both baptized in this Parish
Witnesses; the Priests,  Antonio de Paiva Sousa and João Velho Quintanilha

George


On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Jesse Pacheco  wrote:
>  Hi group. I've had this for awhile but have not been able to figure it out,
> and hopefully someone can help:
>
> http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file15/objects/c/9/4/fc94a515-91f4-4132-912c-c0a1c8a699e6-0.jpg
>
> I read who the parents of Joao and Izabel are. That is mainly what I am
> looking for, and if someone could help that would be great.
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading casamento

[Jesse Pacheco]

 Thank you very much Hermano, Encarnacao was correct. I should have 
mentioned that, I had it from another record.


On 8/1/2010 8:52 PM, Hermano C. Pires wrote:

Hello Jesse

Here is what I make of it:

9 June 1751 - Joao do Rego widower of Maria de Oliveira, burried in 
this parish of Nossa Senhora do Rosario, wedded Isabel da Encarnacao 
(I had trouble with this one) daughter of Francisco Machado and Maria 
da Silva.


Hope that helps

Hermano


> Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2010 14:38:49 -0400
> From: pacheco.jess...@gmail.com
> To: azores@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading casamento
>
> Hi group. I've had this for awhile but have not been able to figure it
> out, and hopefully someone can help:
>
> 
http://o.mfcreative.com/f1/file15/objects/c/9/4/fc94a515-91f4-4132-912c-c0a1c8a699e6-0.jpg

>
> I read who the parents of Joao and Izabel are. That is mainly what I am
> looking for, and if someone could help that would be great.
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Noia family from Vila Franca do Campo - ilha de São Miguel

[Terri]

Hi Cheri
Shirley is helping me (i could kiss her!) with some of my family. She
found what looks like  Jose Rodrigues Noia listed as a Godparent to my
Grandfather from SM in Vila Franca do Campo.

On Aug 1, 8:16 pm, Cheri Mello  wrote:
> Manoel,
>
> I put a note in my genealogy program that you have Manoel Rodriguez Noia and
> Maria de Mattos as ancestors.  They are my 9-great grandparents.  I come
> from their daughter Margarida Furtada m. Manoel Correia.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
> Achada

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