[AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602
Can anyone help with reading the following: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1875-1883/PPDL1875-1883_item1/P198.html Number #1665 4601 Joao d'almeida filhoe de Francisco d'Almeida e Francisca Thomasia 4602 - ??? Rodrigues Pimentel Thank you!! Maria Moore -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602
João de Almeida Proprietos Son of Francisco de Almeida and of Francisca Thomazia age 49, from Rosario Lagoa going to Brasil and could not read or write. George On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Can anyone help with reading the following: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1875-1883/PPDL1875-1883_item1/P198.html Number #1665 4601 Joao d'almeida filhoe de Francisco d'Almeida e Francisca Thomasia 4602 - ??? Rodrigues Pimentel Thank you!! Maria Moore -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Trip
Hi, Delores, New here myself, although I've been intermittently researching my Azorean roots for over a decade. I've been to the Azores five times starting in 2002, so have some experiences I can share. 1. Would you be willing to divulge which island(s) besides Terceira you're thinking of visiting, so the group can share their experiences there? In general I agree that a visitor can have a better time by going to a single island rather than hurrying through two. One arguable exception might be Faial and Pico, since they're separated by just a short passenger-ferry shuttle that runs multiple times a day. In fact, friends of mine who stayed in Horta, Faial, this spring day- tripped over to Pico and were delighted with their visit (even took a cab down to Lajes to see the famed Whaling Museum). 2. When planning my first two visits to the Azores (2002 and 2004) I used an Azor-American-run travel agency, and am really glad I did, since they know the islands so well. They arranged all flights, hotels, connections from/to airports, tour guides, etc. Since I live in the East, I used an East Coast travel agency, although I've heard only excellent reports re Ginny and Al Dutra and their agency in California that was already mentioned by others here, in case that's where you live; I also met Al last fall while in California, and can vouch that he's a lovely gentleman. I've arranged my own Azores trips online since my third visit in 2006, partly in order to save money, but also because by then I knew what I did/didn't need, and because more booking options had begun to be available online by then. 3. On my first two visits to Terceira I stayed at the Hotel Angra (sometimes called the Angra Garden) on the Praça Velha in the center of the historic downtown district. While it's certainly nice, it's also large, fairly expensive, and, for my tastes, terribly impersonal. By the time I was planning my third trip, I knew several acquaintances in Angra, so asked them to suggest something smaller, more intimate and more economical. Independently of one another, they all highly recommended the Residencial Monte Brasil, located only 2-3 blocks from the Palácio Bettencourt, where the Angra Public Library and Regional Archives are housed (though the new Library/Archives under construction just above Rua do Galo at Conceição are supposedly scheduled to open in 2011). Not only is the Residencial Monte Brasil located more conveniently to the Library/Archives than Angra's large tourist hotels, I find it much friendlier; the only drawback is that breakfast is very plain, which bothered my husband a bit. 4. If you need to take a cab but don't speak much Portuguese, look for ones with English spoken painted on the side. I always ask first how much my ride will cost to my destination, just on general principles. 5. On my first Azores visit, I used a local English-speaking tour guide on each of the six islands I visited. Five were marvelous. The sixth, on Terceira, was hostile to me just because I was American -- and this was less than nine months after the 9/11 attacks, which he informed me the US had brought on itself; he also recounted what I deemed an anti-Semitic account (which may not even be true) re the origin of the name of the Terceiran town of Porto Judeu. Coincidentally, a few years later a California friend born on Terceira started to tell me of the bad experience a non-Portuguese-American friend of his had had with a tour guide on Terceira the previous summer, describing him as anti-American and anti-Semitic; yep, the same guy (since he's unmistakable-looking). In the spirit of non- flaming, I won't post his name online unless Cheri OKs it, but I can provide it to you in a private email so you can try to avoid him. 6. Re Archival research of Azorean baptismal, marriage and death registrations: a) I agree with everyone who suggested you might want to start now studying the relevant records already online before you go, since a good deal of the 19th century materials have been scanned and are online in .jpg format (i.e., downloadable and printable). b) While I'm a huge fan of Angra's Public Library and Archives, not many of the staff are fluent in English, so unless you know a certain amount of Portuguese you'll have a challenging time trying to pursue research there on your own. What one resourceful friend of ours and his family once did when they visited their ancestral homeland in order to conduct genealogical research was to hire a college-student interpreter by the hour to assist them when they visited the archives where their ancestors' records were housed. I imagine a travel agent could book such a service for you in advance -- does anyone know the price? (Wild guess: 15-20€/hr.). 7. On one of my own websites (blush) I've researched and organized two pages of extensive references to Azorean tourism into table format by island, complete with hyperlinks, which I hope might be useful in
[AZORES-Genealogy] Surviving in a very foreign country
One of the things I heard last night at the book signing was that some business men were paid large sums of money to find workers for the whaling industry. This fit with some information I had learned a few years ago. When I questioned someone about the reason my grandfather traveled from NY to Pinole, CA, I was told that there was a jobber there. That was a person who ran a boarding house and knew where jobs were available. I do not know if the jobber was paid to supply workers; I do know that my grandfather ended up in San Gregorio, on the coast, working for a farmer that had no connection to him. My grandfather's soon to be father-in-law was also working there. Grandpa from Tras-os-Montes and great-grandfather from Terceira, Azores. No connection until my grandmother arrived to be with her father, met my grandfather and moved on. This might give you another way to view how our immigrant ancestors survived in a foreign country without knowing anyone and not speaking the language. Celeste, Hayward, CA Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ÁLVARO NORONHA, 1875-194 1, born Topo, São Jorge, died LA Co., Calif.
Hi Katharine, A 1941 death in Los Angeles will be signed by the doctor, not a family member. Actually, in all my years of research, I don't think I've ever seen a death signed by a family member. Maybe it happens somewhere. I can't remember if a 1941 death states the relationship of the deceased to the informant, though. I'll look this afternoon and see. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cotton Mill in Taunton, MA
Amazon has the following info on cotton mills, etc. you might be able to find the cotton mill in Taunton, there were a few of them all over the south east coastal area of Mass. 1) -- The Third International Congress of Delegated Representatives of Master Cotton Spinners' and Manufacturers' Associations: Held in the Large Hall, Kunstlervereinshaus, ... Bremen, June 25th to 27th, 1906 [1906] by International congress of delegated representatives of master cotton spinners' and manufacturers' associations (Paperback - Dec 15, 2009) Buy new: $20.99 Get it by Thursday, Aug 19 if you order in the next 11 hours and choose one-day shipping. Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping. Excerpt - Front Matter: ... THE CONTINENT 31 DAMP IN COTTON.. 45 THE UNION OF PORTUGUESE COTTON SPINNERS 52 SECOND DAY'S ... 2) -- Portuguese Spinner: An American Story by Joseph D. Thomas, Donna Huse, Marsha L. McCabe, and Susana Coelho (Paperback - Nov 1, 1998) 8 used from $45.00 You also might find information from the Spinner Publications of New Bedford, they have a lot of information in the form of books, articles, photos, etc. site isas follows. http://www.spinnerpub.com/Home.html Hope this helps. Don Correia On Aug 17, 8:58 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, it's worldcat.ORG There's 115 hits. I'm in CA, so it's routing based on my location (USC, UCLA, many Cal State Universities). Yes, you can go into a university and use their library. You may not be able to borrow the book, but you can copy the relevant pages. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Joao R. Nicolau - Bretanha, Sao Miguel
I have a relative with the name Manuel Coelho. He would be my grandfather's half brother, my great-uncle. His father's name was Francisco Silvieira da Sousa Coelho. Don't know his mother's name, she died around 1870. His father married my grandmother, Maria Candida, (b 1838). These names are so similar, I wonder if we could be related. There is no information about Manuel in my family's history; just that he died in the Azores and he was the only sibling that did not immigrate to the states. Nothing else is known about him. He had three siblings, who ended up in Fall River, Peabody, and Brazil, and a half brother, my grandfather, who moved to Peabody, MA. I have the siblings information in the US, and all decendents up to 1980 if you are interested and you think this could be the same person, I would be happy to share what I have. I don't know what all the names mean. Can someone help me? Would the da Sousa and the Silveira be my great grandfather's mother's name, for example? Mariana Luz On Aug 16, 6:39 am, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote: Its coelho not Cooelho On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 6:38 AM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote: Miquelina was bor on the 29 Jul 1886 herr aprents are Manuel de Sousa Cooelho and Marai Candida, paternal granddaughter of Antonio João from Bretanha and of Miquelina de Jesus from Fajã de Baixo, maternal granddaughter of Antonio Travassos and of Ana Joaquina Pimentel Miquelina Coelho- and George Pacheco- are 3rd cousins 1 time removed. Their common ancestors are Jose Pimentel- and Vitoria Alvares-. On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 3:12 PM, silva...@comcast.net wrote: I have information in my database of the Rego Nicolau's..Diana Silva - Original Message - From: bellema...@gmail.com To: azores Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, August 13, 2010 9:48:32 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Joao R. Nicolau - Bretanha, Sao Miguel Does anyone have anything of this Joao R. Nicolau and family who lived in Fall River. His full name might be Joao do Rego Nicolau but I am not sure. He married Maria Jose Sousa b. abt. 1878 - her father is listed as Manuel Sousa Coelho, Bretanha. Her sister is Miquelina Coelho b. abt. 1886. I found an 1895 marriage record between Joao do Rego Nicolau and Maria J. de Sousa. His parents are Jose R. and Maria I. Telles and her parents are Manoel and Maria C. Carvathos (Carvalho?). All children were born in USA. Thanks E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ --http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cotton Mill in Taunton, MA
Hi Marie- Several of my ancestors worked at Gosnold Mill, though I'm not absolutely positive it was in Tauton. I don't have access to my genealogy database at the moment so I'm unable to check. Textile mills were a good place for immigrants to find steady work as weavers, seamstresses, blacksmiths, etc. The towns grew around the mills with multi-family dewllings springing up in the vicinity of the mills. Usually these dwellings were two floors with one complete residence on each floor. I Googled Gosnold Mill quite some time ago and learned a wealth of information. Good luck in your research. Greg Lima Olympia, Washington On 8/17/10, Marie ma...@volbeda.com wrote: My grandmother is long gone and I was too young to think about asking the right questions when I could have. Among my many questions are how could a very shy 16 year old young girl come to the US alone, without knowing any one ( that we know of) not speak the language, find a place to live and get a job in a cotton mill in Taunton??. She lived in a boarding house, we assume . Does anyone know what cotton mill she might have worked at in Taunton? She worked with thread, if I recall correctly. What is the history of immigrants from the Azores finding jobs in the mills. Too many questions, not enough answers from the last survivng family that might know??? Thanks for your help Marie Borba Volbeda Researching Topo, Sao Jorge: Borba, de Borba, Carvalho, Silveira Carvalho, Brasil -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cotton Mill in Taunton, MA
My grandfather Evaristo R de Medeiros also came here by himself. He was 20. Story has it he came with only the clothes on his back. He worked in the cotton mills as did my grandmother and her parents. I have a picture of my gr grandfather at the cotton mill. My gr grandparents (dos Santos) never learned english. They lived in New Bedford until the 1940's and came to California. They were brave/gutsy people back then to leave their country in hopes of better living conditions. In California they settled in Santa Clara. New Bedford and Santa Clara had many Portuguese people from the Azores in the community so my gr grandparents felt they didn't need to learn english. Good luck on your quest. Wish I could help more. Karen On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Marie ma...@volbeda.com wrote: My grandmother is long gone and I was too young to think about asking the right questions when I could have. Among my many questions are how could a very shy 16 year old young girl come to the US alone, without knowing any one ( that we know of) not speak the language, find a place to live and get a job in a cotton mill in Taunton??. She lived in a boarding house, we assume . Does anyone know what cotton mill she might have worked at in Taunton? She worked with thread, if I recall correctly. What is the history of immigrants from the Azores finding jobs in the mills. Too many questions, not enough answers from the last survivng family that might know??? Thanks for your help Marie Borba Volbeda Researching Topo, Sao Jorge: Borba, de Borba, Carvalho, Silveira Carvalho, Brasil -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- Hugs and Blessings from Karen (Medeiros) Huffman in Paso Robles, CA USA Searching for Medeiros and Cabral in Sao Miguel, Santos, Silva and Costa in Terceira Acores. Searching for Anderson and Swanson in Sweden and Schaeffer and Schommer in Germany. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602
The occupation was proprietario = property owner The name was João de Almeida (no Proprietos in the name) Doug Borba Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 10:52:49 -0400 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602 From: bretanha1...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com João de Almeida Proprietos Son of Francisco de Almeida and of Francisca Thomazia age 49, from Rosario Lagoa going to Brasil and could not read or write. George On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Can anyone help with reading the following: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1875-1883/PPDL1875-1883_item1/P198.html Number #1665 4601 Joao d'almeida filhoe de Francisco d'Almeida e Francisca Thomasia 4602 - ??? Rodrigues Pimentel Thank you!! Maria Moore -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ÁLVARO NORONHA, 1875-1941, b orn Topo, São Jorge, died LA Co., Calif.
I thought next-of-kin (as well as physician) was listed somewhere on California death certificates. Katharine. On Aug 18, 12:18 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Katharine, A 1941 death in Los Angeles will be signed by the doctor, not a family member. Actually, in all my years of research, I don't think I've ever seen a death signed by a family member. Maybe it happens somewhere. I can't remember if a 1941 death states the relationship of the deceased to the informant, though. I'll look this afternoon and see. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ÁLVARO NORONHA, 1875-194 1, born Topo, São Jorge, died LA Co., Calif.
I believe it says Informant Is that what you are referring to? Elaine On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:16 AM, Katharine katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com wrote: I thought next-of-kin (as well as physician) was listed somewhere on California death certificates. Katharine. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: ÁLVARO NORONHA, 1875-194 1, born Topo, São Jorge, died LA Co., Calif.
It asks for the informant. The relationship of the informant to the deceased isn't always stated. It seems like the recent ones (last 20 or so years) has a name and the relationship, but I've seen some from the 70s where the informant's relationship isn't stated. I don't know if it's the time period or the person filling it out didn't bother. There's no box on the Los Angeles deaths that says next of kin :( I copy down everything then I go to the Portuguese Hall for band practice, so I'll get back to you later this evening. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Tree Maker for MAC
I just found this on the Family Tree Maker site: http://www.familytreemaker.com/Mac/Default.aspx You asked for it and we listened. Announcing Family Tree Maker® Mac. If you’re on a Mac, you’ll soon be able to take advantage of the world’s best-selling genealogy application to create your family tree. Since we have a new Mac, and I use FTM on my Toshiba laptop, may be useful in the future to have on both laptop computers. Can never have it on too many computers, backups, etc. :-) E -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cotton Mill in Taunton, MA
I work at Temple University in Philadelphia, and we have online access to Portuguese Spinner: An American Story, I can do some lookups (I can't post the entire book due to copyright laws). can I look something up for someone? Dolores On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 2:53 AM, Don drt...@aol.com wrote: Amazon has the following info on cotton mills, etc. you might be able to find the cotton mill in Taunton, there were a few of them all over the south east coastal area of Mass. 1) -- The Third International Congress of Delegated Representatives of Master Cotton Spinners' and Manufacturers' Associations: Held in the Large Hall, Kunstlervereinshaus, ... Bremen, June 25th to 27th, 1906 [1906] by International congress of delegated representatives of master cotton spinners' and manufacturers' associations (Paperback - Dec 15, 2009) Buy new: $20.99 Get it by Thursday, Aug 19 if you order in the next 11 hours and choose one-day shipping. Eligible for FREE Super Saver Shipping. Excerpt - Front Matter: ... THE CONTINENT 31 DAMP IN COTTON.. 45 THE UNION OF PORTUGUESE COTTON SPINNERS 52 SECOND DAY'S ... 2) -- Portuguese Spinner: An American Story by Joseph D. Thomas, Donna Huse, Marsha L. McCabe, and Susana Coelho (Paperback - Nov 1, 1998) 8 used from $45.00 You also might find information from the Spinner Publications of New Bedford, they have a lot of information in the form of books, articles, photos, etc. site isas follows. http://www.spinnerpub.com/Home.html Hope this helps. Don Correia On Aug 17, 8:58 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, it's worldcat.ORG There's 115 hits. I'm in CA, so it's routing based on my location (USC, UCLA, many Cal State Universities). Yes, you can go into a university and use their library. You may not be able to borrow the book, but you can copy the relevant pages. Cheri -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comazores%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602
sorry it wasn't meant to be part of the name what i missed was he was a Proprietor , sneaking during work i don't check what i write. On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:52 AM, George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com wrote: João de Almeida Proprietos Son of Francisco de Almeida and of Francisca Thomazia age 49, from Rosario Lagoa going to Brasil and could not read or write. George On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Can anyone help with reading the following: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1875-1883/PPDL1875-1883_item1/P198.html Number #1665 4601 Joao d'almeida filhoe de Francisco d'Almeida e Francisca Thomasia 4602 - ??? Rodrigues Pimentel Thank you!! Maria Moore -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Cotton Mill in Taunton, MA
Here is an interview with Joseph Sousa from the book: In Search of My Father: Interview with Joseph Sousa*In Search of My Father Interview with Joseph Sousa* by Marsha McCabe *Joseph Sousa's love affair with Madeira began when his immigrant father told him how big everything was on that small island -- big vegetables, big flowers, big mountains. His father, who died at 51, never got the chance to return to the island. Right then, I promised myself I would visit my father's birthplace, says Joe. My heart and soul wanted to go there. The island was like a magnet, pulling me toward it.* *Joe Sousa didn't just find his father's house, he found his heritage. Today Joe Sousa is the guiding spirit behind the creation of a Madeiran museum in New Bedford, featuring art, photographs, family history, textiles, embroidery and other delights. My father was a farmer and factory worker in America. But he was also a poet, singer and story teller, traditions he brought with him from Madeira. Why should they be lost?* *In Search of My Father's House* I promised myself I would visit my father's birthplace when he died, but it still took a long time to get there. We had six children and I was spending long days, sometimes nights and weekends, working as a commercial artist so it wasn't easy to get away. Finally my wife Dolores and I made the trip on New Year's Day, 1980. Tears came to our eyes in the plane when we looked down and saw the island. Then, when, we saw we were going to land on top of the mountain -- the runway begins at one edge and ends at the other. Some of the passengers started blessing themselves! The island is a dream, a regular Shangrila. It's only 35 miles long and 14 miles wide, but it's amazing what the island holds. You're in a different world. You can smell the flowers. People will give -- 129 -- you anything. I went to the archives and was able to locate my mother's house in Santa Cruz. But my father's house was more of a problem. I went to his village, Gaula, and asked to see the oldest person there. Several old ladies came out of their houses, curious to know who I was. I said I'm looking for the family of the Sousas. She says there's a lot of them and she tells me different Sousa stories but none are the right Sousa. Then I take my sunglasses off and walk toward her, and she points her finger. ‘You have the face of Virginia Sousa,’ she says. Well, that's my father's sister, Virginia! Where is my father's house? I asked her. She points and says -- It's the last house on top of the mountain. I know it's going to take a day-and-a-half for us to get there and we don't have the time. I swore I'd come back soon. In 1983, I returned with three of my children, June, John and Rosemary. Before leaving the U. S., I had corresponded with an old Madeiran in Oakland, California, a man who came from the same village as my father, and I asked him for directions. They read, Go to the church, go down the path, pass by the Vieira house, pass the banana plantation, go along the *levada*(canal), and so forth. A taxi took us part way, then we began climbing. At the top of the mountain, we found my father's house. It was all broken down, open windows and door, dirt floor, pieces of a bed. But that didn't matter. I was swept away by the beauty of the place, and I bawled. Then I got mad at my father for ever leaving Madeira. No matter how poor he was, he had it all already! *My Father in America:* My father left his beautiful island at 18. His mother died when he was 12 and his grandfather was left to raise seven children. When they grew up, some of these kids went to Brazil, a sister went to France and my father Joe came to the U. S., where he settled in New Bedford. Joe saw the woman who would become my mother from a distance and liked her. She (Maria) would go to church with her family and he would go too, just to see her. He would wink at her and he knew she knew. Gradually, he inserted himself into her family, but he could never be alone with her. Even when my father went to get the engagement ring, he had to take one of her sisters. After they married, they settled in Central Falls, Rhode Island, where they both worked in a cotton mill. Madeirans stick together no matter what the locale, and there were lots of Madeirans in Central Falls. But my neighborhood was like the U. N. with Syrians, Polish, Irish and Italians as well as Portuguese. My parents spoke to us in English. During the Depression, nobody had anything and my father made moonshine to survive. We lived in a six-tenement house and he made moonshine in the cellar. He figured he would rather work than collect, right? He sold it in five-gallon cans to clubs, bars and homes. The other families in the tenement house would not complain because he was paying their rent too and providing liquor and beer for celebrations like confirmation. My father was like the banker. The police loved my father but when the federals came in, that was a
[AZORES-Genealogy] Table of contents to Portuguese Spinner: An American Story
here is the table of contents of the book. The links won't work, but if anyone is interested as to what is in there. I am browsing the book and it is a nice read. Certainly worth investigating. Dolores Coyle Title Page and Credits Page NAhttp://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV2 Introduction Page NAhttp://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV3 Contents Page NAhttp://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV4 The Homeland Page NAhttp://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV6 Azorean Dreams Page 20http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV7 The Long Journey Interview with Maria de Jesus Page 30http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV8 Two Women Conversation with Mrs. Linhares Mrs. Pereira Page 34http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV9 Summer Vacations Page 40http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV10 Folk Tales from the Village Hanging out with the Family Page 44http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV11 The Man from Santa Maria Interview with Miguel de Figueiredo Côrte-Real Page 48http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV12 My Life as a Pro Soccer Player Interview with Pedro Tavares Page 55http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV13 The New World Page [58]http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV14 The Construction of Immigrant Identity Page 60http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV15 Coming to America Interview with Maria Tomasia Page 74http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV16 The New Immigrant Interview with Jorge Manuel Pereira Page 81http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV17 Two Worlds Interview with Dineia Sylvia Page 88http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV18 The Letter Interview with Fernanda DeSousa Page 94http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV19 Immigrant Song by Leonildo DeSousa Page 97http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV20 Luso Poetry Poems by George Monteiro, Emily A. Monteiro, Jason Leary and Quatrains by João Teixeira de Medeiros Page 98http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV21 Selected Poems Page 100http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV22 Body of Portugal Page 102http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV23 The Immigrants Assistance Center Page 104http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV24 American Dreams Page [110]http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV25 Portuguese Sausage Makers the Stories of Furtado and Gaspar Linguiça Companies Page 112http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV26 75 Cents in My Pocket Interview with Alfredo Alves Page 116http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV27 The Smell of Ink Interview with Raymond Canto e Castro Page 118http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV28 The Senator Interview with Mary Fonseca Page 120http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV29 From Melville to Dos Passos Notes on the Portuguese Presence in American Literature Page 124http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV30 In Search of My Father Interview with Joseph Sousa Page 128http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV31 Neighborhood and Celebration Page [132]http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV32 Urban Cottage Gardens Page 134http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV33 Early Neighborhood Page 158http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV34 Down on Columbia Street Page 166http://solomon.imld.alexanderstreet.com/cgi-bin/asp/philo/imld/getvolume.pl?S13972#DIV35 Change and Tradition in Fox Point Page
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Azores Travel
[Hmmm, I think I should've posted my reply to Delores F. here, at the end of the thread. I'll get the hang of this yet!] Hi, Delores, New here myself, although I've been intermittently researching my Azorean roots for over a decade. I've been to the Azores five times starting in 2002, so have some experiences I can share. 1. Would you be willing to divulge which island(s) besides Terceira you're thinking of visiting, so the group can share their experiences there? In general I agree that a visitor can have a better time by going to a single island rather than hurrying through two. One arguable exception might be Faial and Pico, since they're separated by just a short passenger-ferry shuttle that runs multiple times a day. In fact, friends of mine who stayed in Horta, Faial, this spring day- tripped over to Pico and were delighted with their visit (even took a cab down to Lajes to see the famed Whaling Museum). 2. When planning my first two visits to the Azores (2002 and 2004) I used an Azor-American-run travel agency, and am really glad I did, since they know the islands so well. They arranged all flights, hotels, connections from/to airports, tour guides, etc. Since I live in the East, I used an East Coast travel agency, although I've heard only excellent reports re Ginny and Al Dutra and their agency in California that was already mentioned by others here, in case that's where you live; I also met Al last fall while in California, and can vouch that he's a lovely gentleman. I've arranged my own Azores trips online since my third visit in 2006, partly in order to save money, but also because by then I knew what I did/didn't need, and because more booking options had begun to be available online by then. 3. On my first two visits to Terceira I stayed at the Hotel Angra (sometimes called the Angra Garden) on the Praça Velha in the center of the historic downtown district. While it's certainly nice, it's also large, fairly expensive, and, for my tastes, terribly impersonal. By the time I was planning my third trip, I knew several acquaintances in Angra, so asked them to suggest something smaller, more intimate and more economical. Independently of one another, they all highly recommended the Residencial Monte Brasil, located only 2-3 blocks from the Palácio Bettencourt, where the Angra Public Library and Regional Archives are housed (though the new Library/Archives under construction just above Rua do Galo at Conceição are supposedly scheduled to open in 2011). Not only is the Residencial Monte Brasil located more conveniently to the Library/Archives than Angra's large tourist hotels, I find it much friendlier; the only drawback is that breakfast is very plain, which bothered my husband a bit. 4. If you need to take a cab but don't speak much Portuguese, look for ones with English spoken painted on the side. I always ask first how much my ride will cost to my destination, just on general principles. 5. On my first Azores visit, I used a local English-speaking tour guide on each of the six islands I visited. Five were marvelous. The sixth, on Terceira, was hostile to me just because I was American -- and this was less than nine months after the 9/11 attacks, which he informed me the US had brought on itself; he also recounted what I deemed an anti-Semitic account (which may not even be true) re the origin of the name of the Terceiran town of Porto Judeu. Coincidentally, a few years later a California friend born on Terceira started to tell me of the bad experience a non-Portuguese-American friend of his had had with a tour guide on Terceira the previous summer, describing him as anti-American and anti-Semitic; yep, the same guy (since he's unmistakable-looking). In the spirit of non- flaming, I won't post his name online unless Cheri OKs it, but I can provide it to you in a private email so you can try to avoid him. 6. Re Archival research of Azorean baptismal, marriage and death registrations: a) I agree with everyone who suggested you might want to start now studying the relevant records already online before you go, since a good deal of the 19th century materials have been scanned and are online in .jpg format (i.e., downloadable and printable). b) While I'm a huge fan of Angra's Public Library and Archives, not many of the staff are fluent in English, so unless you know a certain amount of Portuguese you'll have a challenging time trying to pursue research there on your own. What one resourceful friend of ours and his family once did when they visited their ancestral homeland in order to conduct genealogical research was to hire a college-student interpreter by the hour to assist them when they visited the archives where their ancestors' records were housed. I imagine a travel agent could book such a service for you in advance -- does anyone know the price? (Wild guess: 15-20€/hr.). 7. On one of my own websites (blush) I've researched and organized two pages of
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cotton Mill in Taunton, MA
Hi everyone The Gosnold Mill was in New Bedford MA It went up for sale : http://www.allvoices.com/United-States-Of-America/Massachusetts/New-Bedford New Bedford : http://www.allvoices.com/United-States-Of-America/Massachusetts MA : http://www.allvoices.com/United-States-Of-America USA | Sep 25, 2008 Source: Acushnet Community News The former Gosnold Mill building on Orchard Street in the South End is scheduled to be offered at an 11 a.m. auction on Oct. 8 to the highest bidder over $500,000. The 111,200-square-foot four-story building on 1.2 acres of land at 665-667 Orchard St. just off Cove Street is being sold by its owner, Stor-U-Self of New Bedford Limited Partnership Marge [Howes] PERRY Carlsbad, CA -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gregorylima tds.net Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:11 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Cotton Mill in Taunton, MA Hi Marie- Several of my ancestors worked at Gosnold Mill, though I'm not absolutely positive it was in Tauton. I don't have access to my genealogy database at the moment so I'm unable to check. Textile mills were a good place for immigrants to find steady work as weavers, seamstresses, blacksmiths, etc. The towns grew around the mills with multi-family dewllings springing up in the vicinity of the mills. Usually these dwellings were two floors with one complete residence on each floor. I Googled Gosnold Mill quite some time ago and learned a wealth of information. Good luck in your research. Greg Lima Olympia, Washington On 8/17/10, Marie ma...@volbeda.com wrote: My grandmother is long gone and I was too young to think about asking the right questions when I could have. Among my many questions are how could a very shy 16 year old young girl come to the US alone, without knowing any one ( that we know of) not speak the language, find a place to live and get a job in a cotton mill in Taunton??. She lived in a boarding house, we assume . Does anyone know what cotton mill she might have worked at in Taunton? She worked with thread, if I recall correctly. What is the history of immigrants from the Azores finding jobs in the mills. Too many questions, not enough answers from the last survivng family that might know??? Thanks for your help Marie Borba Volbeda Researching Topo, Sao Jorge: Borba, de Borba, Carvalho, Silveira Carvalho, Brasil -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5376 (20100818) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5376 (20100818) __ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602
THank you George ! - Original Message - From: George Pacheco bretanha1...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:52:49 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] help reading passenger list #1665-4602 João de Almeida Proprietos Son of Francisco de Almeida and of Francisca Thomazia age 49, from Rosario Lagoa going to Brasil and could not read or write. George On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:36 AM, danandma...@comcast.net wrote: Can anyone help with reading the following: http://pg.azores.gov.pt/drac/cca/biblioteca_digital/PPDL1875-1883/PPDL1875-1883_item1/P198.html Number #1665 4601 Joao d'almeida filhoe de Francisco d'Almeida e Francisca Thomasia 4602 - ??? Rodrigues Pimentel Thank you!! Maria Moore -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
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I'm so sorry that you are coming off since you have been such a great resource of information for everyone, but I do understand. I so was hoping that you could have helped the new person Yvonne Domings with her ancestory since there could be a relation to you and others. Get a good rest, we all do need it. Linda Borges Furtado Norton -Original Message- From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azo...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of George Pacheco Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 1:54 PM To: Azores-Gen Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] unsubscribe Hi Cheri taking time off, please remove me from the list untill i e-mail you to put me back on. Thanks George -- http://www.geocities.com/bretanha1954/ -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions About Research on Terceira
Some of Delores' questions, MY ANSWERS. * * * * * Someone mentioned the Archives what is that, where is it located and what is there? Can I read about it somewhere online? THEY'RE IN A ROOM IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, WHERE ONE FILLS OUT REQUEST SLIPS AT THE DESK AND THE CLERK ON DUTY FETCHES THE VOLUME(S) YOU LIST. IN ANGRA, IT'S ON THE GROUND FLOOR TO THE RIGHT JUST OFF THE LOBBY, WITH ITS SPECTACULAR AZULEJO (BLUE--WHITE TILE) MURALS DEPICTING EPISODES IN ANGRENSE HISTORY. I will bring the information I already have about my family. Should I go to the Catholic Church to get Baptised records? What about records when someone died? BAPTISM, MARRIAGE AND DEATH RECORDS PREDATING 1911 ARE IN THE ARCHIVES. THERE ARE ALSO PASSPORT RECORDS, AND POSSIBLY OTHERS -- DOES SOMEONE ELSE KNOW MORE RE THESE? I guess the big city on Terceira is Angra. Are there other cities that large? ANGRA DO HEROÍSMO IS THE LARGEST (CA. 30-35,000), PRAIA DA VITÓRIA'S THE NEXT LARGEST. How long does it take to drive around Terceira? PERHAPS TWO HOURS -- UNLESS YOU STOP ALONG THE WAY ;-))) I have a map that someone gave me that has homes of some of my relatives from years ago, but no addresses. Could I find them with a map? Would the homes still be there? I read that there have been natural disasters but I am not sure how to find out what was lost in those. Were records lost? Would houses be gone? ASK AT YOUR HOTEL DESK. OR CONSULT YOUR TRAVEL AGENT IN ADVANCE. IF THE MAP PREDATES THE NEW YEAR'S DAY 1980 CATACLYSM, THE HOUSE MAY BE GONE. BTW, HOTEL ROOMS THERE HAVE THE AZORES PHONE BOOK IN THEM (LISTINGS ARE BY ISLAND). BETTER YET, DOES ANYONE KNOW OF AN ONLINE AZORES WHITE PAGES, WHERE DELORES COULD TRY LOOKING UP HER RELATIVES IN ADVANCE? This shows my ignorance, but there may be five people traveling, If we rent a car are the cars real small? One of our relatives said that they are. A FAMILY FIVESOME OF ADULTS I KNOW WHO VISITED TERCEIRA A COUPLE YEARS AGO RENTED A MINI-VAN AT THE LAJES AIRPORT, WHICH PROVIDED PLENTY OF ROOM. THEY RESERVED IT ONLINE IN ADVANCE (YOUR TRAVEL AGENT COULD HANDLE THIS, TOO). ONLY PROBLEM CAN BE A SHORTAGE OF PARKING PLACES IN DOWNTOWN ANGRA OR PRAIA. AND FUEL IS EXORBITANT BY NORTH AMERICAN STANDARDS -- NOT THAT YOU COULD DRIVE ALL THAT FAR ON TERCEIRA ANYWAY, UNLESS YOU REALLY PUT YOUR MIND TO IT ;-))) Wow, it sounds as though there are lots of people who know a lot about genealogy and I am feeling intimidated. WE WERE ALL IN YOUR SHOES WHEN PLANNING OUR FIRST VISITS THERE. BY THE TIME YOU RETURN, YOU'LL BE AN EXPERT! BEST OF LUCK, KATHARINE. On Aug 14, 3:44 pm, Delores F delores...@gmail.com wrote: I may have made a mistake when I tried to send an email to the list. I believe some emailed me privately and maybe I sent a list response to those who sent email private? I apologize if that is so. Someone mentioned the Archives what is that, where is it located and what is there? Can I read about it somewhere online? I will bring the information I already have about my family. Should I go to the Catholic Church to get Baptised records? What about records when someone died? I would like to go to the cemetery and read headstones. Are there lots of cemeteries on Terceira? I guess the big city on Terceira is Angra. Are there other cities that large? How long does it take to drive around Terceira? I have a map that someone gave me that has homes of some of my relatives from years ago, but no addresses. Could I find them with a map? Would the homes still be there? I read that there have been natural disasters but I am not sure how to find out what was lost in those. Were records lost? Would houses be gone? This shows my ignorance, but there may be five people traveling, If we rent a car are the cars real small? One of our relatives said that they are. Wow, it sounds as though there are lots of people who know a lot about genealogy and I am feeling intimidated. Delores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership.
[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions About Research on Terceira
Some of Delores' questions, MY ANSWERS. [Cheri posted while I was typing, so I'm re-posting here in order to keep everything on the same thread. Cheri, can you remove my original reply? Thanks!] * * * * * Someone mentioned the Archives what is that, where is it located and what is there? Can I read about it somewhere online? THEY'RE IN A ROOM IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, WHERE ONE FILLS OUT REQUEST SLIPS AT THE DESK AND THE CLERK ON DUTY FETCHES THE VOLUME(S) YOU LIST. IN ANGRA, IT'S ON THE GROUND FLOOR TO THE RIGHT JUST OFF THE LOBBY, WITH ITS SPECTACULAR AZULEJO (BLUE--WHITE TILE) MURALS DEPICTING EPISODES IN ANGRENSE HISTORY. I will bring the information I already have about my family. Should I go to the Catholic Church to get Baptised records? What about records when someone died? BAPTISM, MARRIAGE AND DEATH RECORDS PREDATING 1911 ARE IN THE ARCHIVES. THERE ARE ALSO PASSPORT RECORDS, AND POSSIBLY OTHERS -- DOES SOMEONE ELSE KNOW MORE RE THESE? I guess the big city on Terceira is Angra. Are there other cities that large? ANGRA DO HEROÍSMO IS THE LARGEST (CA. 30-35,000), PRAIA DA VITÓRIA'S THE NEXT LARGEST. How long does it take to drive around Terceira? PERHAPS TWO HOURS -- UNLESS YOU STOP ALONG THE WAY ;-))) I have a map that someone gave me that has homes of some of my relatives from years ago, but no addresses. Could I find them with a map? Would the homes still be there? I read that there have been natural disasters but I am not sure how to find out what was lost in those. Were records lost? Would houses be gone? ASK AT YOUR HOTEL DESK. OR CONSULT YOUR TRAVEL AGENT IN ADVANCE. IF THE MAP PREDATES THE NEW YEAR'S DAY 1980 CATACLYSM, THE HOUSE MAY BE GONE. BTW, HOTEL ROOMS THERE HAVE THE AZORES PHONE BOOK IN THEM (LISTINGS ARE BY ISLAND). BETTER YET, DOES ANYONE KNOW OF AN ONLINE AZORES WHITE PAGES, WHERE DELORES COULD TRY LOOKING UP HER RELATIVES IN ADVANCE? This shows my ignorance, but there may be five people traveling, If we rent a car are the cars real small? One of our relatives said that they are. A FAMILY FIVESOME OF ADULTS I KNOW WHO VISITED TERCEIRA A COUPLE YEARS AGO RENTED A MINI-VAN AT THE LAJES AIRPORT, WHICH PROVIDED PLENTY OF ROOM. THEY RESERVED IT ONLINE IN ADVANCE (YOUR TRAVEL AGENT COULD HANDLE THIS, TOO). ONLY PROBLEM CAN BE A SHORTAGE OF PARKING PLACES IN DOWNTOWN ANGRA OR PRAIA. AND FUEL IS EXORBITANT BY NORTH AMERICAN STANDARDS -- NOT THAT YOU COULD DRIVE ALL THAT FAR ON TERCEIRA ANYWAY, UNLESS YOU REALLY PUT YOUR MIND TO IT ;-))) Wow, it sounds as though there are lots of people who know a lot about genealogy and I am feeling intimidated. WE WERE ALL IN YOUR SHOES WHEN PLANNING OUR FIRST VISITS THERE. BY THE TIME YOU RETURN, YOU'LL BE AN EXPERT! BEST OF LUCK, KATHARINE. On Aug 14, 3:44 pm, Delores F delores...@gmail.com wrote: I may have made a mistake when I tried to send an email to the list. I believe some emailed me privately and maybe I sent a list response to those who sent email private? I apologize if that is so. Someone mentioned the Archives what is that, where is it located and what is there? Can I read about it somewhere online? I will bring the information I already have about my family. Should I go to the Catholic Church to get Baptised records? What about records when someone died? I would like to go to the cemetery and read headstones. Are there lots of cemeteries on Terceira? I guess the big city on Terceira is Angra. Are there other cities that large? How long does it take to drive around Terceira? I have a map that someone gave me that has homes of some of my relatives from years ago, but no addresses. Could I find them with a map? Would the homes still be there? I read that there have been natural disasters but I am not sure how to find out what was lost in those. Were records lost? Would houses be gone? This shows my ignorance, but there may be five people traveling, If we rent a car are the cars real small? One of our relatives said that they are. Wow, it sounds as though there are lots of people who know a lot about genealogy and I am feeling intimidated. Delores On Aug 14, 4:07 pm, Cheri Mello gfsche...@gmail.com wrote: Delores, Some people may chose to email you privately. Hitting reply sends the message to all 760+ people on this list. Archives:http://homepage.mac.com/kmacardoza/Genealogy/genresources.html Records for baptisms and deaths - no, not the churches. It depends on when the event happened. It'll be at the archive or the civil registry. See the email link above. Cemeteries: Most cemeteries are not perpetual care like in America. After a certain number of years, the grave is reused for another person. You probably won't find a headstone there. Angra: It's not too big to walk. I think Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel was a little larger, but I walked that too. I don't mind walking, though. When I toured Terceira (with a band) we did it over 2 days and stopped in
RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions About Research on Terceira
Parking in Angra: right below the Spanish fort and before getting into downtown Angra (coming from the South) there is a huge parking lot where you can park for free. There is a mini-bus every 15 min. that will take you to the main square for free (courtesy of the city government). Many times I just walked up the main drag and to 'downtown.' Have fun, Doug Borba Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:43:58 -0700 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Questions About Research on Terceira From: katharine.f.ba...@gmail.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Some of Delores' questions, MY ANSWERS. * * * * * Someone mentioned the Archives what is that, where is it located and what is there? Can I read about it somewhere online? THEY'RE IN A ROOM IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, WHERE ONE FILLS OUT REQUEST SLIPS AT THE DESK AND THE CLERK ON DUTY FETCHES THE VOLUME(S) YOU LIST. IN ANGRA, IT'S ON THE GROUND FLOOR TO THE RIGHT JUST OFF THE LOBBY, WITH ITS SPECTACULAR AZULEJO (BLUE--WHITE TILE) MURALS DEPICTING EPISODES IN ANGRENSE HISTORY. I will bring the information I already have about my family. Should I go to the Catholic Church to get Baptised records? What about records when someone died? BAPTISM, MARRIAGE AND DEATH RECORDS PREDATING 1911 ARE IN THE ARCHIVES. THERE ARE ALSO PASSPORT RECORDS, AND POSSIBLY OTHERS -- DOES SOMEONE ELSE KNOW MORE RE THESE? I guess the big city on Terceira is Angra. Are there other cities that large? ANGRA DO HEROÍSMO IS THE LARGEST (CA. 30-35,000), PRAIA DA VITÓRIA'S THE NEXT LARGEST. How long does it take to drive around Terceira? PERHAPS TWO HOURS -- UNLESS YOU STOP ALONG THE WAY ;-))) I have a map that someone gave me that has homes of some of my relatives from years ago, but no addresses. Could I find them with a map? Would the homes still be there? I read that there have been natural disasters but I am not sure how to find out what was lost in those. Were records lost? Would houses be gone? ASK AT YOUR HOTEL DESK. OR CONSULT YOUR TRAVEL AGENT IN ADVANCE. IF THE MAP PREDATES THE NEW YEAR'S DAY 1980 CATACLYSM, THE HOUSE MAY BE GONE. BTW, HOTEL ROOMS THERE HAVE THE AZORES PHONE BOOK IN THEM (LISTINGS ARE BY ISLAND). BETTER YET, DOES ANYONE KNOW OF AN ONLINE AZORES WHITE PAGES, WHERE DELORES COULD TRY LOOKING UP HER RELATIVES IN ADVANCE? This shows my ignorance, but there may be five people traveling, If we rent a car are the cars real small? One of our relatives said that they are. A FAMILY FIVESOME OF ADULTS I KNOW WHO VISITED TERCEIRA A COUPLE YEARS AGO RENTED A MINI-VAN AT THE LAJES AIRPORT, WHICH PROVIDED PLENTY OF ROOM. THEY RESERVED IT ONLINE IN ADVANCE (YOUR TRAVEL AGENT COULD HANDLE THIS, TOO). ONLY PROBLEM CAN BE A SHORTAGE OF PARKING PLACES IN DOWNTOWN ANGRA OR PRAIA. AND FUEL IS EXORBITANT BY NORTH AMERICAN STANDARDS -- NOT THAT YOU COULD DRIVE ALL THAT FAR ON TERCEIRA ANYWAY, UNLESS YOU REALLY PUT YOUR MIND TO IT ;-))) Wow, it sounds as though there are lots of people who know a lot about genealogy and I am feeling intimidated. WE WERE ALL IN YOUR SHOES WHEN PLANNING OUR FIRST VISITS THERE. BY THE TIME YOU RETURN, YOU'LL BE AN EXPERT! BEST OF LUCK, KATHARINE. On Aug 14, 3:44 pm, Delores F delores...@gmail.com wrote: I may have made a mistake when I tried to send an email to the list. I believe some emailed me privately and maybe I sent a list response to those who sent email private? I apologize if that is so. Someone mentioned the Archives what is that, where is it located and what is there? Can I read about it somewhere online? I will bring the information I already have about my family. Should I go to the Catholic Church to get Baptised records? What about records when someone died? I would like to go to the cemetery and read headstones. Are there lots of cemeteries on Terceira? I guess the big city on Terceira is Angra. Are there other cities that large? How long does it take to drive around Terceira? I have a map that someone gave me that has homes of some of my relatives from years ago, but no addresses. Could I find them with a map? Would the homes still be there? I read that there have been natural disasters but I am not sure how to find out what was lost in those. Were records lost? Would houses be gone? This shows my ignorance, but there may be five people traveling, If we rent a car are the cars real small? One of our relatives said that they are. Wow, it sounds as though there are lots of people who know a lot about genealogy and I am feeling intimidated. Delores -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the
Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Table of contents to Portuguese Spinner: An American Story
What is the name of this book and where can I get it? - Original Message - From: Dolores Coyle To: Azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 12:41 PM Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Table of contents to Portuguese Spinner: An American Story here is the table of contents of the book. The links won't work, but if anyone is interested as to what is in there. I am browsing the book and it is a nice read. Certainly worth investigating. Dolores Coyle Title Page and Credits Page NA Introduction Page NA Contents Page NA The Homeland Page NA Azorean Dreams Page 20 The Long Journey Interview with Maria de Jesus Page 30 Two Women Conversation with Mrs. Linhares Mrs. Pereira Page 34 Summer Vacations Page 40 Folk Tales from the Village Hanging out with the Family Page 44 The Man from Santa Maria Interview with Miguel de Figueiredo Côrte-Real Page 48 My Life as a Pro Soccer Player Interview with Pedro Tavares Page 55 The New World Page [58] The Construction of Immigrant Identity Page 60 Coming to America Interview with Maria Tomasia Page 74 The New Immigrant Interview with Jorge Manuel Pereira Page 81 Two Worlds Interview with Dineia Sylvia Page 88 The Letter Interview with Fernanda DeSousa Page 94 Immigrant Song by Leonildo DeSousa Page 97 Luso Poetry Poems by George Monteiro, Emily A. Monteiro, Jason Leary and Quatrains by João Teixeira de Medeiros Page 98 Selected Poems Page 100 Body of Portugal Page 102 The Immigrants Assistance Center Page 104 American Dreams Page [110] Portuguese Sausage Makers the Stories of Furtado and Gaspar Linguiça Companies Page 112 75 Cents in My Pocket Interview with Alfredo Alves Page 116 The Smell of Ink Interview with Raymond Canto e Castro Page 118 The Senator Interview with Mary Fonseca Page 120 From Melville to Dos Passos Notes on the Portuguese Presence in American Literature Page 124 In Search of My Father Interview with Joseph Sousa Page 128 Neighborhood and Celebration Page [132] Urban Cottage Gardens Page 134 Early Neighborhood Page 158 Down on Columbia Street Page 166 Change and Tradition in Fox Point Page 178 Adrian Short Story by Onésimo T. Almeida Page 186 The Portuguese Feast Tradition Transformation Page 192 Finding Love at the Feast Interview with Teresa Freitas Page 198 Working the Feast Interview with John Fernandes Page 199 Of Whales and Fish Page [200] Down to the Sea for Fish Portuguese Fishing Families in New Bedford Page 202 The Provincetown Fisherman Interview with Capt. Frank Parsons Page 212 Azoreans in American Whaling Page 216 Luzo Whalemen Interviews with Alberto Cordeiro, José C. Pinheiro and José P. Ávila Page 222 Working Tradition Page [228] The Portuguese Worker Page 230 Three Lives for Labor Eula Mendes, Manny Fernandes and Tina Ponte Page 236 A Man of Steel Interview with Emidio Raposo Page 246 The Union Representative Interview with Noe Gouveia Page 251 Working the Land Page [254] Strawberries and Cement a Story of the Portuguese of Falmouth Page 256 Down on the Farm the George Farm in Dartmouth Page 261 The Story of Martin's Cheese Page 264 Tale of Two Dairies Gulf Hill Dairy and Model Dairy of Dartmouth Page 268 Assimilation and Future Perspectives Page 273 Bibliography Page 282 -- -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click in the blue area on the right that says Join this group and it will take you to Edit my membership. -- To unsubscribe from this group, send email to azores+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. Follow the confirmation directions when they arrive. For more options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Azores. Click
